00:00:30.000Hey friends! Long time, no see. I kind of ghosted you for a while, but I have really
00:00:36.540missed you. Thanks for sticking with me through the silence. I wasn't slacking off. I was
00:00:40.580working very hard on a very big move, packing up my life, crossing the ocean, and relocating
00:00:46.040to nice, foggy, rainy England. And now I am here, just about to start my master's in
00:00:51.480gender studies, which means, yes, I am on track to become even more insufferable than
00:00:56.180before, imagine me with more footnotes, more feminist theory, and even bigger eye rolls for0.99
00:01:01.640every conservative dude with a podcast mic who thinks feminism is destroying civilization.
00:01:07.400With that energy, let's get into it. Welcome back to Bitchy History, where yes,1.00
00:01:12.140we do speak ill of the dead, especially when you were a misogynistic, racist sack of shit who quite1.00
00:01:17.800literally made the world worse every time you opened your mouth. And yes, I'm talking about1.00
00:01:22.700Charlie Kirk. Let's clear up one thing before this episode gets started. I'm not a fan of
00:01:28.100Nazis. When Nazis cease to be Nazis, whether through extensive therapy, lobotomies, or
00:01:33.960death, I'm pretty okay with that. The trials in Nuremberg were a-okay in my book, and up0.84
00:01:40.080until the last few days, I thought that was a pretty uncontroversial opinion for those
00:01:44.900on my side of the political aisle. But apparently not. But today's show is nonetheless about
00:01:50.920Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, podcaster, right-wing youth influencer, and
00:01:56.460a man who unironically said that a few gun deaths a year is worth it to keep the Second
00:02:00.740Amendment, which is exactly how he died. Kirk and his entire organization built their brand
00:02:06.800on convincing young people that feminism is a scam, birth control is mind control, and
00:02:11.840happiness is found only in subservience to a godly husband, among many other racist and0.69
00:02:17.380homophobic comments. He attacked the LGBTQ plus community, wokeism, DEI, racial equality,
00:02:23.840and essentially everything that didn't benefit his existence as a mediocre straight white man.0.97
00:02:28.840Congratulations, Charlie. You are in a very small subset of people in history who contributed0.53
00:02:33.320absolutely nothing positive to the world, and in fact, made it worse with every single solitary
00:02:39.060action you ever took. Have fun down there with Aaron Burr, Phyllis Schlafly, most of the Lee
00:02:44.360family of Virginia and several Latin American dictators. That's a non-exhaustive list, of
00:02:49.620course. If your favorite abjectly horrible person isn't on it, forgive me, but we don't
00:02:53.880have time. Now, if this had just been some guy shouting into a YouTube void, we could
00:02:58.800laugh and move on. But Kirk's platform reached millions. His conferences were packed with
00:03:04.020teens and college students. Politicians cozied up to him. And his talking points weren't
00:03:08.680just harmless debate. They were pipelines into regressive policies that hurt women, people0.75
00:03:13.580of color, queer people, and anyone else he deemed un-American. So buckle up, because
00:03:18.900today we're digging specifically into the insanely shitty things Charlie Kirk and his0.98
00:03:23.040Turning Point Circus have said about women. We'll cover some of his greatest hits, from0.92
00:03:27.420telling Taylor Swift to submit to her husband, to declaring that birth control turns women
00:03:32.260into bitter harpies, to insisting that college for women is basically just husband hunting.
00:03:37.420We'll also cover his sidekicks, Candace Owens blaming women for literally every problem0.88
00:03:42.160in the world, Alex Clark telling us that the kitchen is where the revolution starts. Spoiler,0.99
00:03:47.460that is not the revolution I signed up for. And I like cooking. By the end, you'll see how
00:03:53.560Turning Point USA is just the latest stop on a misogyny tour that goes back centuries. The cult
00:03:58.880of domesticity, 1950s June Cleaver propaganda, Phyllis Schlafly's stop ERA, different decade,0.99
00:04:05.780same old woman get back in the kitchen bullshit. Well, so now let's meet Charlie Kirk. Charlie0.97
00:04:11.680Kirk was born in 1993, which makes him younger than me, not that you could tell. I asked a few
00:04:16.940people how old they thought he was, and the answer generally put him in around 45, further proof of
00:04:22.480my theory that evil ages you like milk. He grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, and unlike the young
00:04:28.260conservatives he constantly criticized, he didn't actually spend much time in the liberal hellscape
00:04:33.660of academia. In fact, he basically skipped college entirely. And while I'm sure many talented and
00:04:39.720intelligent people dropped out of college and contributed great things to society,
00:04:43.880I just have my doubts about someone who washed out after a single semester of community college.
00:04:48.740Not because community college isn't valuable, but because Charlie seems like the kind of guy
00:04:52.960who'd drop intro to biology because the mitochondria being the powerhouse of the cell
00:04:57.700sounded too socialist. Of course, being a college dropout didn't stop him from launching Turning
00:05:02.760Point USA in 2012 at the tender age of 18. His pitch? College campuses are full of leftist
00:05:09.160indoctrination and conservative students needed protection. Strong words from a dude who probably
00:05:13.880barely attended classes for the four-ish months he was enrolled at Harper College.
00:05:18.240Do I have proof he didn't attend? Absolutely not. He just gives off that vibe. Be honest,
00:05:23.440you know he does. One of Kirk's earliest claims to fame was telling a story about how he was
00:05:28.780denied a spot at West Point because a less qualified black woman was accepted instead.
00:05:33.540This was his big affirmative action grievance tale. Years later, he admitted he'd been
00:05:37.820exaggerating. Okay, lying. But the damage was done. That story played perfectly to conservative
00:05:43.480donors. Suddenly, this kid had coke money and a shiny new youth activism organization.
00:05:49.040Now, I want you to picture Charlie Kirk at 19. It's a scary image, but roll with it. He's not
00:05:54.160a college student, not a veteran, not a policy expert. But what he does have is a gift for
00:05:59.500outrage and the uncanny ability to say things like feminism is destroying America without
00:06:04.660realizing he sounds like he's been possessed by a ghost from 1955. Or maybe he did realize that he
00:06:10.480was intentionally channeling Joseph McCarthy. I guess we'll never know. Turning Point USA started
00:06:15.540small. Tables on campuses, recruiting student ambassadors, memes on Instagram. But it grew
00:06:21.160into a multi-million dollar empire. Today, TPUSA hosts giant conferences with thousands of
00:06:26.880attendees. They run social media accounts with millions of followers. And they're one of the
00:06:31.020most important youth organizations feeding into the Republican Party. One of the many topics that
00:06:36.400Kirk and TPUSA leaned heavily into was, of course, gender politics. Why? Because nothing riles up a
00:06:42.860conservative base faster than the idea that women are out of their control. Whether it's abortion,
00:06:47.860birth control, or just the fact that women are pursuing careers, Kirk positioned himself as the
00:06:52.500savior of traditional values. And by traditional, he meant when men made all the rules and women
00:06:57.960heavily medicated themselves with booze and pills so they wouldn't smother their husbands with a
00:07:02.300pillow. Snark aside, this was a deliberate strategy. Conservatives have always used women's
00:07:07.840bodies as battlegrounds, whether in the 19th century anti-suffrage movement, the 1950s housewife
00:07:13.100ideal, or the 1980s stop ERA campaign. Charlie Kirk was just this generation's Phyllis Schlafly,
00:07:19.320but with worse hair, somehow, and a lot more TikTok clips. But if you think I'm just being
00:07:24.360too harsh, wait, because his actual quotes make my sarcasm look generous. Let's start with one of
00:07:30.260his most recent masterpieces of misogyny. In 2025, when Taylor Swift announced her engagement,
00:07:35.820the entire internet was in a frenzy of congratulations. Everyone except Charlie
00:07:39.980Kirk, that is. Instead of a simple good for her, Charlie got on his podcast, clenched his jaw like
00:07:45.240he was trying to bite through a steel bar and said, submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not
00:07:50.900in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say it
00:08:00.820without laughing. You got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. It's almost like
00:08:07.100Charlie Kirk has never heard of a stage name. Have you have you ever heard of a female artist
00:08:13.340changing their stage name when they got married, especially when they were wildly successful
00:08:17.800beforehand, but immaterial to that. This is a wild statement for someone to make. First of all,
00:08:26.000why? Why would she need to submit to her husband? That's an insane 1950s concept for a woman.
00:08:33.840She is not a 1950s wife. In fact, she has spoken about that in her music. The 1950s shit they want
00:08:41.880for me. If you think this is a woman who is suddenly going to become a conservative that1.00
00:08:48.020supports your party because she got married to someone who is also pretty liberally minded,
00:08:55.140um, what? What? Earlier in this same rant, he goes off about how marriage and having children
00:09:04.700and all of these things makes you more conservative. I would like to know what he
00:09:09.880thinks he knows about that. He has literally been a conservative talking head since he was 18 years
00:09:16.780old, since long before he married his wife and had children. Even if it did make him more conservative
00:09:24.040to have children, that was because he was already on that side of the line. In my opinion, I would
00:09:29.160think that having children would make a person who was liberal more liberal, because the same ideals
00:09:34.440would apply, but that's an entirely other argument for us to be having. But that's right,
00:09:41.460America's most successful pop star, billionaire businesswoman, songwriter of a generation,1.00
00:09:46.640and Charlie thinks that her biggest priority should be submission and babies. Why is Taylor0.96
00:09:52.460Swift living rent-free in the brains of conservative men? Because she's the antithesis1.00
00:09:57.840of their worldview. She's a woman who built an empire on her own terms. She owns her masters.1.00
00:10:03.120she commands stadiums, and she has more wealth and influence than many male billionaires have.1.00
00:10:08.440And she did it without needing to submit to anyone. So of course, Charlie Kirk has to drag0.64
00:10:14.180her down to his level. In his warped logic, if Taylor Swift rejects feminism, she'll suddenly1.00
00:10:19.320become a trad wife icon, maybe even a J.D. Vance supporter. Yes, he literally speculated that0.98
00:10:25.700marriage would turn Taylor from cat lady to Republican housewife. Newsflash, Charlie,
00:10:30.600the only thing Taylor Swift is going to submit to is her accountant when she files taxes on her1.00
00:10:35.220fortune. Historically, this is the same old playbook. In the 19th century, women who pursued
00:10:40.240public careers were called unsexed. In the 1950s, female movie stars were accused of being lonely0.99
00:10:46.600spinsters. Every generation has its Taylor Swift, an independent, successful woman who terrifies1.00
00:10:52.000the patriarchy just by existing. And every generation has its Charlie Kirk, more than a few0.94
00:10:57.300of them, clutching his pearls and demanding she submit to the patriarchy. Now let's wind back
00:11:02.560the clocks a year to 2024. Kirk is on stage at a TPUSA event when he delivers one of the most
00:11:08.640jaw-droppingly stupid lines of his career and says this. A lot of them are on birth control too,1.00
00:11:15.840and birth control like really screws up female brains, by the way. Every single one of you need1.00
00:11:19.960to make sure that your loved ones are not on birth control. It increases depression, anxiety,
00:11:24.040suicidal ideation birth control is the number one most prescribed medication for young ladies under0.95
00:11:29.700the age of 25 they they will give birth young ladies birth control for pimples for acne for
00:11:35.080to control their moods their period it is it is awful it's terrible um and it creates very angry
00:11:40.700and bitter young ladies and young women um that then that bitterness then manifests into um a
00:11:47.280political party that is the bitter party i mean the democrat party is all about bring us your
00:11:51.480Okay, first of all, let me be clear. I'm a lesbian who grew up without health insurance,
00:11:56.540which means that I have never been on birth control even once in my life. I'm still bitter,
00:12:01.980and I'm still a liberal. That has a lot more to do with the existence of ideas like Charlie Kirk's
00:12:06.860than any hormonal medication that I could ever have been taking. But I'd also like to know where
00:12:12.160my free shit is. Do I have to apply for that? Do I have to be on birth control to get it? What0.98
00:12:17.360what free shit am I getting? Because, quite frankly, I could use some. Somebody get in0.99
00:12:23.420touch with me about where I apply. Local DNC chapter? Where? But let's fact check for a
00:12:29.520second. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists says birth control is safe,
00:12:34.120effective, and has mental health benefits for many women. But sure, let's trust the guy whose
00:12:38.940medical degree comes from the University of Pulling Statistics out of his ass. What Kirk1.00
00:12:43.200is really doing here is recycling a very old fear, that if women control their own reproduction,
00:12:48.440they won't need men anymore. Historically, this goes back to the invention of the pill in the
00:12:52.9201960s, and probably even further. Conservatives lost their mind over it. They argued that birth
00:12:58.240control would destroy families, make women promiscuous, and collapse society. And you know
00:13:03.060what? In a way, they were right. The pill did transform society, for the better. It gave women
00:13:07.940the ability to delay marriage, pursue education, and build careers. It was one of the single most
00:13:12.820important tools in dismantling the patriarchy, which is exactly why Charlie Kirk hates it.
00:13:18.220So when he says that birth control creates bitter women, what he means is,
00:13:22.000I can't stand that women don't have to rely on men like me.
00:13:25.400In that same rant, Kirk also declared,
00:13:28.800We basically told a great generation of young women, don't get married, don't have kids,0.99
00:13:33.320go get a corporate job, and it's created mass political hysteria.
00:13:38.480And then in their early 30s, they get really upset because they say,
00:13:42.060you know the boys don't want to date me anymore because they're not at their prime and people get
00:13:46.120mad when i say that which is true if you're in your early 30s i'm sorry it's like you're not as
00:13:49.800attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early 20s but again you have your corporate job
00:13:53.360and cats so i thought you you know um i'm just gonna say that uh i would rather have literally
00:14:01.160any job and a cat versus being attractive to anyone like kirk or any of his friends um then
00:14:09.760again, I am a lesbian. So maybe I am missing out on some core part of the heterosexual female
00:14:15.080experience. So my straight female friends will have to let me know. Are you that worried about0.99
00:14:20.940it? Because I don't think you are quite personally. Also, women in their 30s are dope. So if one of
00:14:28.660them wants to date me, let me know. Because I'm not worried about dating a woman in their 30s.0.94
00:14:33.180I don't think you've expired. At all. Of course, I'm 35, so what do I know?
00:14:39.780But nothing screams fragile masculinity like reducing women's to cartons of milk with a
00:14:44.700sell-by date. This is straight out of the Manosphere playbook. Red pill influencers on
00:14:49.240YouTube love to say that women hit the wall at 30, as if human beings are iPhones that stop0.98
00:14:54.380updating once you pass a certain age. But historically, this isn't new either. In the
00:14:59.04019th century, unmarried women over 30 were labeled old maids or spinsters. Newspapers
00:15:04.800warned that single women would die alone surrounded by cats. Sound familiar? In the
00:15:09.6001950s, magazines ran articles advising young women to marry young or risk being left behind.0.69
00:15:15.940Kirk is just rebranding spinster panic for Gen Z. He wants young women to believe they have a tiny
00:15:21.500window of value, and that value is only measured by their ability to snag a husband. Here's the
00:15:27.040thing. Women in their 30s today are thriving. I've just gone back to school. They're starting1.00
00:15:31.980businesses. They're leading companies, running for office, raising families on their own terms.
00:15:37.140Meanwhile, Charlie Kirk is on a podcast telling Taylor Swift she's not in charge.
00:15:41.660Who exactly was past their prime? But perhaps the most absurd stage for Kirk's misogyny was
00:15:48.020the fact that TPUSA had the audacity to run something called the Young Women's Leadership0.99
00:15:53.600summit. You'd think that a woman's leadership conference would be about empowering young women0.95
00:15:58.360to pursue careers, education, political influence, but not in Charlie's world. At one of these events
00:16:04.640in 2025 in Grapevine, Texas, a 14-year-old girl asked Kirk about pursuing political journalism.
00:16:11.980This was his response. I think there is an argument to bring back the MRS degree.
00:16:16.820and no seriously and just be clear that's why you're going to college right don't lie to yourself
00:16:24.140like don't like i'm going i'm studying sociology no you're not we know why you're here and that's
00:16:27.700okay actually and that's a really good reason to go to college actually especially an sec school
00:16:35.080like you will find a husband yes this grown man told a teenager barely out of her childhood that
00:16:43.820her best bet at higher education was to treat it like a dating app with a tuition bill. He even
00:16:49.140doubled down, saying most women go to college to find a husband, not to learn. And because he
00:16:53.780apparently hadn't squeezed all the misogyny juice out of that lemon, he added that if you're not
00:16:58.080married with kids by age 30, your chances of either drop precipitously. This is what passes
00:17:03.740for leadership training in TPUSA. A man standing on a stage telling young women that their dreams
00:17:09.460don't matter, their education doesn't matter, and their only value is to be a wife and mother.
00:17:14.460It's almost comical. Young Women's Leadership Summit should just be renamed Young Women's0.70
00:17:19.500Submission Summit because that's what they're really teaching. And this too has deep historical
00:17:24.360roots. Phyllis Schlafly, the conservative activist who fought against the Equal Rights Amendment in
00:17:28.660the 1970s, used the same tactic. She told women their true fulfillment was in the home while she0.55
00:17:34.360herself toured the country giving speeches, writing books, and building a political empire.1.00
00:17:39.460Candace Owens is the modern version of that contradiction, making a career out of telling0.99
00:17:43.900other women not to have careers. The hypocrisy is glaring. Charlie Kirk made millions telling1.00
00:17:49.580women to give up work, travel, and ambition while he flies around the country cashing checks from
00:17:54.580donors. If women actually followed his advice, Turning Point USA wouldn't even have female1.00
00:17:59.760staffers to book his flights. But hold on. If you thought Charlie Kirk was bad, buckle up.0.86
00:18:05.460because the machine he built has an entire arsenal of misogynistic sidekicks.1.00
00:18:10.800And the wildest part, some of them are women.1.00
00:18:13.560That's right, TPUSA copied the Phyllis Schlafly formula decades later.0.85
00:18:18.620If you want to convince young women to give up their independence,1.00
00:18:21.560you need women standing on stage to deliver the message.1.00
00:18:24.620The trad wife aesthetic sells better when it's coming from someone in heels and lipstick, after all.1.00
00:18:29.420So let's talk about two of the biggest offenders, Candace Owens and Alex Clark.1.00
00:18:34.980Candace Owens has made a career out of saying the quiet part out loud.
00:18:38.820Back in 2019, at a TPUSA Young Women's Summit, she stood on stage and declared,0.53
00:18:45.200Who is the most extreme feminist that you know today?1.00
00:18:48.940Mine would definitely be Chelsea Handler, maybe Sarah Silverman, right?1.00
00:18:53.900Definitely Lena Dunham, Alyssa Milano.
00:18:57.600And ask yourself a very simple question.0.83
00:19:00.100Do you think those women are happy?0.56
00:19:02.520there's no chance that they're happy there's no chance that they're happy so then you that is why1.00
00:19:09.060i believe that feminism is a scam and it's not about uplifting women it's about tearing women0.86
00:19:13.700down ah yes that great old scam in which we make women able to make their own decisions and not be
00:19:21.780reliant upon men for everything in their lives such a scam owens has also dismissed me too
00:19:29.520as a left-wing scam, accusing feminists of being angry and bitter, and insisting that0.97
00:19:34.320modern feminism isn't about empowerment at all. Now, this is a familiar conservative talking
00:19:39.400point. Feminism doesn't empower women, it victimizes them. Schlafly said the same thing1.00
00:19:44.000in the 1970s, calling feminists man-hating women who just wanted to destroy the family unit.1.00
00:19:49.700Owens is essentially selling a warmed-over version of the same ideology.
00:19:53.260But she didn't stop there. Oh, no, no. In 2023, at another TPUSA Young Women's Summit, Candace outdid herself. She looked at a room full of young women and denounced.
00:20:05.740Well, the truth is, is that we got here from women.
00:20:10.740The transgendered movement has been ushered in by women.
00:20:15.300I was explaining this to Charlie just now on his radio show. I said every ill that we are fighting right now in society has been brought forth by women.1.00