00:10:44.920private jets are responsible for around 4% of all aviation emissions.
00:10:48.960the Guardian also reported that private aircraft still emit more than 33 million tons of greenhouse
00:10:55.020gases which is more than the country of Denmark and because they carry so few people they are 5
00:11:00.960to 14 times more polluting than commercial planes per passenger and 50 times more polluting than
00:11:06.560trains so that also makes me feel better like when I'm crammed in economy like a bloody cow
00:11:12.940and cattle um you know going over to the uk that it's like me and all these hundreds of people on0.71
00:11:20.300this plane are like doing so much less damage than like the kardashian jenna family of like
00:11:26.520five of them whatever going you know across the country yeah i like how that puts it in perspective
00:11:32.700as well um yeah look at us science lessening up culture club i have actually learned so much
00:11:40.900to this segment. Just recently two of Gen Z's internet darlings Addison Rae and Emma Chamberlain
00:11:53.660have been in quirky high editorial photo shoots and we want to talk about it because I think it's
00:12:01.420really interesting. So these two photo shoots that have really just come out in about the last week
00:12:07.640are markedly different to their previous you know kind of youthful influencer image and vibe and
00:12:14.440shoots they've been a part of um okay so jazz you have seen these photos or what do you think of
00:12:20.020them i think they are very very cool it sounds so lame too cool for us though right very cool
00:12:29.400sweetie i'm so proud of you they feel very editorial very like paper magazine but like a
00:12:35.660bit more grungy um and i think it's definitely signaling new directions for both of them
00:12:42.900particularly addison ray because you know she kind of went from like southern bell tiktoker
00:12:48.960to cali tiktoker to netflix darling rom-com comedy gal and now it seems like she's trying
00:12:56.980to be more high fashion which is fascinating and i i don't mind addison i think she seems like a
00:13:02.460sweet girl um yeah no no complaints yeah no great way of putting the photos I feel like that's how
00:13:10.440I feel about them too we'll quickly try to describe them but we will post them to our0.80
00:13:15.660Instagram so for Emma we saw her with long peroxide blonde hair and she's kind of in an
00:13:22.600office setting an at-home gym in a bedroom uh they're shot on flash it kind of gives like that
00:13:28.680old digital flash family camera that you had at home vibes and they're a bit eerie, bit outer
00:13:34.920worldly, interesting. As you can tell it's hard to describe these images so definitely look at
00:13:40.300them yourselves but for Addison she's got long black extensions in, she's got bleached brows0.99
00:13:47.240as does Emma actually. Addison's wearing this very Y2K fit of like headbands wrap around sunnies and1.00
00:13:54.440this I don't know little matching skirt jacket number what's really cool about both of these
00:14:01.640I think is that both of them were styled by Melbourne born artist Ghadir Rajab. Both aren't
00:14:09.900actually tied to any projects or publications which usually would be the case when you see
00:14:14.860those like high editorial shoots it seems like it's purely for brand image and experimentation
00:14:20.520which is lovely to like I know it's just nice to see people be creative I guess and I think I mean
00:14:26.220of course on Instagram most people following Addison and Emma are fans of theirs so the
00:14:31.700reception's been really positive but I just think it's so interesting to compare these photos to
00:14:37.520just a few years ago those iconic like Coachella influencer shoots that like especially Emma was a
00:14:43.960part of you know it's very visco cam high saturation really stylized and like pinterest
00:14:50.500girly i guess this is such such an exit from that and they're really i think trying to stray away
00:14:57.600from um that brand image you know emma herself you know she deletes her old youtube video she
00:15:03.240archives her instagram photos so there's really like you know she's really i think trying to take
00:15:08.920control of her image and it's interesting to see the projects that she's really focusing
00:15:13.600on at the moment such as her podcast and her coffee brand oh my god I could talk about her
00:15:20.340all day this is so funny um but yeah I just wanted to kind of see like is this a new direction
00:15:26.460that's for influencers um to be taken seriously as artists because yeah I wouldn't be surprised
00:15:34.100if we saw more influencers do more projects like this yeah I agree because even looking at Addison
00:15:40.920Ray's um Instagram just then like it's still quite um youthful colorful um she's just done like a
00:15:49.060collaboration with a Barbie doll company and then you look at these and it's very like paparazzi-esque
00:15:54.660Britney Spears it's like Lindsay Lohan era of those paparazzi shoots shot on like a little
00:15:59.900flip phone so yeah i'll be interested to see where both of them go i think emma chamberlain to me is
00:16:05.240already very high fashion very stylish she's not an influence to me she's like more than an0.54
00:16:11.540influencer if that makes sense like girl she's an old girl yeah so i think you're right and i would
00:16:19.740love to hear what um culture club listeners actually think about these shots because i'm
00:16:23.760not gonna lie especially addison's photos are like they look like they were shot on like a flip phone
00:16:28.620like your mum took them at a weird angle but that is the vibe so I do want everyone to hop
00:16:33.060down on the Instagram and leave us a thought or a comment. Supermodel and new mum Emily Ratajkowski
00:16:43.660is reportedly filing for divorce from her film producer husband Sebastian Bear McLeod. An
00:16:49.300alleged source close to her told Page Six that yeah he cheated he's a serial cheater it's gross
00:16:55.840he's a dog which very candid for these alleged source right they're usually pretty um pretty0.70
00:17:03.680calm and civil uh but yeah there's been rumors for a couple weeks now um that kind of started
00:17:10.620when em was spotted without her wedding ring and then more recently on the 18th of july another
00:17:17.680source told people quote they split recently it was em's decision she is doing okay she is strong
00:17:24.720and focus on her son she loves being a mom so we need to go back a little bit in time if you're
00:17:30.060unaware the pair announced their relationship in february 2018 and two weeks later they got married
00:17:35.580then in march 2021 the pair welcomed their first son sylvester so we don't really talk about cheating
00:17:42.300rumors i feel like that much on culture club they kind of just come and go but i think what's um
00:17:48.240different about this one was a commentary around it was pretty interesting there was this tiktok
00:17:53.440video by user victoria.ilario which framed these celeb cheating stories in a new light
00:18:00.540so the caption to the video read i'll never understand the people caring more about emily
00:18:06.100rada getting cheated on than themselves getting cheated on so in the video she talks about the0.95
00:18:11.980comments that are thrown around like what hope do we have if em rada is cheated on or why would
00:18:18.140anyone ever cheat on Beyonce she asked why we don't carry this energy for ourselves or for our
00:18:23.920own friends where we're almost like more accepting of the infidelity yeah I thought this conversation
00:18:29.840was so interesting and really revealed a lot of kind of feminist theory almost or like0.98
00:18:37.640feminist thinking of like why do we find it so shocking when men cheat on beautiful women
00:18:44.340like what's the difference you know yeah a lot of the comments were kind of reflecting on that as
00:18:52.840well you know one read just because you're conventionally attractive and famous doesn't
00:18:57.220mean you're excluded from being cheated on someone else actually argued quote it's not about them
00:19:02.760being celebrities it's about them functioning at perceived optimum capacity if said optimum
00:19:08.840isn't enough than what is god that's such like a capitalist sentence like optimum capacity like
00:19:15.400little robots oh my god no true actually i actually like that in the sense of like okay
00:19:20.420they are performing at their peak this is like the oh my god this is quite growy language but
00:19:26.620like alpha like you know what i mean like they're top of their game yet they're still being cheated
00:19:30.780on but you're right that is kind of weird wording writer jesse stevens wrote a piece for mamma mia
00:19:36.480which read this commentary betrays our most basic assumptions that when a man cheats on a woman it
00:19:42.260is due to her own lack of desirability when women are cheated on we are programmed to search for
00:19:47.220fault within ourselves a voice whispers in our ear perhaps if we were just thinner or put in more0.84
00:19:52.580effort or if we'd had more sex or if we'd been more attentive or if we just looked a little bit
00:19:57.560more like say Emily Ratajkowski he wouldn't have strayed the term strayed does a fantastic job of
00:20:04.280putting the onus on the woman in this scenario as though she wasn't working hard enough to keep
00:20:08.300his attention it just like shivers over the whole like straying rhetoric as well completely and i
00:20:17.780think um it really calls into question i think this emrata thing of like wow we really do look
00:20:23.860at the person that's being cheated on and like ask why or put not necessarily blame on them but
00:20:30.840You kind of try to understand the cheating by looking at the individuals in the relationship
00:20:38.340but more so on the person that's being cheated on usually, I think.
00:20:43.500So, yeah, I like the way that this is kind of questioned or made a lot of people question
00:20:48.920the way they look at cheating even in their own circles of friends and whatnot.
00:20:53.680Yeah, because it's like, oh, if she's being cheated on, what help do I have?
00:20:56.920which is just so like self-depreciative and like just an awful thing to say about yourself like1.00
00:21:03.940no one should be cheated on but also beautiful women aren't immune to being cheated on so like
00:21:09.620i don't know yeah and it's just like is it even about the person that's being cheated on rather
00:21:15.260than it's just a cheater yeah you know like it's very almost victim blaming right yeah that's like
00:21:21.240we're talking about like oh what if amrata has been cheated on what hope do i have but
00:21:25.220it's not even anything to do with emirana it's like to do with her husband or whoever the cheater
00:21:30.460is to you know have this affair the internet loves to put labels on aesthetics from calling
00:21:43.260everything an era to chucking core at the end of buzzwords we love to categorize different
00:21:49.040subcultures and styles. But what happens when it becomes problematic? Over on social media there's
00:21:55.660been a rise of Gormcore. The hashtag on TikTok has over 659,000 views already. So just an
00:22:04.760explanation on what Gormcore is supposed to represent. It's a distinct type of Melbourne
00:22:10.920fashion. You know the one it's like edgy cool north side. As fashion journal writer Hazel Lee
00:22:17.460describes it, quote, walking down Swanson Street, dressed in your best gawp core drip, showing off
00:22:23.840your khaki parachute pants, walking past people in Brunswick slash Fitzroy, wearing the most
00:22:30.080outrageously ugly outfits, and wearing salamons. So in recent weeks, people have been speaking out
00:22:36.120against this careless use of the phrase, including several First Nations people. But before we get
00:22:41.420into that conversation, we just want to give a brief explainer on the word naam. And thanks to
00:22:46.580Clothing in the Gaps for this information. While most people think that NARM is just used to refer
00:22:52.560to Melbourne, it's actually used by both Wurundjeri, Woiwurrung and Boonwurrung language groups of the
00:22:57.660Kulin Nation. In Woiwurrung language, NARM is referred to, quote, the scrub land, which is known
00:23:03.960as the modern day Melbourne CBD. And in Boonwurrung language, NARM is referred to as the Bay, which is
00:23:09.780known as Port Phillip Bay. And we'll also play a snippet from Sianna Cthulhu from Clothing in the Gaps
00:23:15.140about this i think it is great that people switch out their place names for traditional place names
00:23:21.800it makes aboriginal people feel seen and heard and it is part of the truth telling that needs
00:23:27.140to happen in this country however using aboriginal language to fit a trending aesthetic dismisses
00:23:34.18065 000 years of history and depth of aboriginal languages cultures and practices so ditch nam
00:23:41.620call it is not an aesthetic and instead celebrate the true custodians of this country by raising
00:23:46.380awareness of our campaigns and causes and spend your time celebrating black business it always
00:23:52.120was it always will be aboriginal land if you'd like to listen to that full video we'll have it
00:23:58.340linked in our show notes and we also recommend you listening to our interview with sienna which
00:24:03.720is also linked in the show notes so last month a video by user at punisher.mp3 questioned
00:24:11.000this aesthetic saying are we redefining nam for a white aesthetic now punisher.mp3 aka lily
00:24:18.540is non-indigenous and it was a really interesting video because i think it touched on what a lot of
00:24:26.180us were thinking about perhaps talking about um i know me and you actually had a discussion
00:24:32.380about it um you know privately after we saw this video because it did feel a bit icky i personally
00:24:40.300felt when i was seeing all these like nam core memes and yeah aesthetic videos yeah and it being
00:24:48.420used as like almost a punchline right like especially on twitter i saw a lot of like
00:24:54.240now i'm presenting baddie at gas and like uh those like instagram shit posting where there's
00:25:00.320just like they're really anonymous like you don't know who is running them but they get so many um
00:25:05.640so much interaction but they get so much interaction because like they are so niche to
00:25:10.000like melbourne or whatever it is um so i was already seeing them being like oh this feels
00:25:15.080gross but then there was a lily's video but first nations creator model and tiktoker tarik
00:25:23.240junaid is matt finally also said what many people are thinking and that is that nam core isn't a
00:25:29.400joke or an aesthetic we'll play a snippet from their tiktok that has been viewed close to 100
00:25:34.560thousand times. We told you to use Naam and to start embracing our culture and learning that
00:25:48.080it's still here. You may think that it's like not that deep, but it kind of is. Naam is a place
00:25:59.300name it's a place name it's not like your little fashion moment kind of thing like it's not
00:26:08.900we wanted to hear more from tarik so we got him to answer a few questions here they are in their
00:26:17.020own words when did you first notice that namcore was becoming an aesthetic i first realized that
00:26:24.380Namco was becoming like a little bit of a TikTok aesthetic not long after Melbourne Fashion started
00:26:31.200posting um the videos of like people in the city wearing kind of baggy outfits with you know kind
00:26:40.280of ugly shoes hoodies those like crossbody bags whatever tie-dye bleach shirts
00:26:48.980I think that's when I started noticing it um and I honestly didn't pay that much attention to it
00:26:56.560because I don't really live like in that kind of north area um and honestly my TikTok is usually
00:27:06.580just full of videos of kind of embarrassing like just Bella Hadid because she's beautiful
00:27:14.720and yeah I kind of just didn't really pay attention to it at all because I was just like
00:27:21.620this is just another little TikTok thingy whatever not my vibe um a bit strange though
00:27:29.240so I kind of just scrolled past it until I saw a video from another creator um and she wasn't
00:27:37.540really sure how to talk about it because she's not Indigenous. And I realised, oh, like, this
00:27:44.880is a thing. I didn't realise it was because I don't surround myself with those kinds of
00:27:50.220people. And then when I saw what it was, that it was, I, you know, decided to make that
00:27:57.600video because I'm Indigenous and I have a lot of thoughts about it. So I'd like to speak
00:28:05.000about it as a first nations person how does it make you feel to see that the term naam is being
00:28:10.340co-opted intentionally or otherwise it hurts to see that something that belongs to us which
00:28:20.380i i mean some people say you know oh like are we allowed to even use naam at all
00:28:28.960um because a lot of the time you know we'll say it's an indigenous word yeah obviously you can
00:28:37.360use it but you need to remember that this isn't like it's not a European word it's not like
00:28:46.660Melbourne it's not like named after some old colonizer that once lived here or lived in
00:28:55.060England and did some work in Australia whatever like you need to remember that
00:29:03.040it has meaning behind it and at the end of the day it's a place name
00:29:07.940it's not an aesthetic um and we gave you this word sort of so that you can always remember that
00:29:18.220we're still here and we're always going to be here and as much as this government wants to
00:29:24.780destroy us and put us down. Our culture will always be here. And this always was, always will
00:29:31.660be Aboriginal land. So it hurts to see that people have taken this word and sort of twisted it into
00:29:41.980this little aesthetic, which completely is so far from any sort of Indigenous meaning.0.74
00:29:52.360it's so far from it like and it's a bit ridiculous honestly um it's quite silly seeing0.80
00:30:01.120naam core everywhere like it doesn't make sense because at the end of the day when you see the
00:30:07.840naam core you think oh that's like melbourne stuff blah blah blah and it's like exactly
00:30:11.700exactly you just proved my point you don't actually know what naam means because when you
00:30:17.360see it, you think this is Melbourne, but you call it Namco just because it sounds like you're trying
00:30:25.120to be woke. You're trying to sound educated. I don't have hate for these people. It's just
00:30:31.440disappointing that people don't take the time to educate themselves. They rely on people of colour.1.00
00:30:37.780They rely on black indigenous people of colour to constantly educate them because they either1.00
00:30:45.280can't be bothered or they just don't see that it's a problem. And that in itself is a problem1.00
00:30:53.160that people aren't seeing that it's a problem. You see the world around you every day. You wake
00:30:59.460up, you go outside, you see the world, you see the horrible things, you see the good things,
00:31:02.900beautiful things, bad things. You see all of that. Why can't you see the stuff, the things
00:31:08.660that you're doing in your life that make negative impacts on us? It doesn't make sense.
00:31:14.620I'm not one of those people that despise someone for getting it wrong. I don't think we should do
00:31:21.420that because everyone makes mistakes, everyone says the wrong things, I say the wrong things
00:31:29.020and I obviously can't speak for other ethnicities and other races when it comes to people saying
00:31:38.120offensive things. I can only speak for myself and my experiences as an Indigenous and Pakistani
00:31:45.880person. But this country just doesn't educate its people. There's no real sort of education system
00:31:58.460based around other cultures and other religions, ethnicities, races. This country doesn't really
00:32:06.400teach that even indigenous culture it's so shocking that my father who grew up in pakistan1.00
00:32:14.880knew more about indigenous people from high school than they teach here like it's ridiculous0.52
00:32:24.720um so i don't think that we should have hate for these people that aren't educated
00:32:29.680just to remind them that you don't rely on us to educate you once you've done something wrong
00:32:38.960just there's no harm in just looking stuff up just researching sure it might be boring
00:32:46.660sure at the end of the day you might find nothing sure you might find something wrong and make a
00:32:51.920mistake but that's the whole process of educating yourself is that you make mistakes and you learn
00:32:58.740from them and you don't do it again and you try not to do it again and i think that's what a lot
00:33:08.140of us want to put out there there's no harm in educating yourself because you will make mistakes
00:33:14.880but that's the whole part of the process do you think that this is virtue signaling
00:33:22.200do you think it's people being mindless about what they're saying or do you think it's people
00:33:28.040genuinely thinking they're trying to be inclusive by saying Naam or putting Naam in their bio etc
00:33:33.640etc I do think there's there is a difference between you know using Naam as a place name
00:33:40.160perhaps having it in your bio instead of Melbourne and using something like Naam Core which is you
00:33:47.260know an aesthetic a style like you mentioned before kind of like a punchline at times I think
00:33:54.320I think it's virtue signaling because people it seems are trying to appear woke by just you just
00:34:05.160using the language of it and I think what's worse and what's making me feel the most icky it's almost
00:34:11.380for personal gain right they're using the arm core to be associated and closer to wokeness in a way
00:34:18.360to show that oh yes you know I'm knowledgeable about indigenous culture and history but I'm
00:34:27.340actually using it just for myself you know this is how I interpret it and it doesn't in any way
00:34:34.460pay any respect to the thousands of years of history that's already been there I also feel0.79
00:34:41.540like by you know that beautiful line that Lily had you know are we redefining Nam for a white
00:34:47.400aesthetic is that not just recolonization like we are taking language and putting a white gaze on
00:34:54.480top of it like oh that is that is painful but I want to hear what you think yeah I think I agree
00:35:02.560with all of that and I just think it is definitely people getting caught up in the internet as well
00:35:07.940and like all of us crave to be in groups and to be seen and we're going to be part of something
00:35:15.860But when you actually don't think about like words mean something, I feel like I say that quite often in this podcast, like your words have so much impact and kind of taking a word from a First Nations language and using it for your own gain, whether that's social clout, TikTok clout, getting views or just like you said, being associated with wokeness or Indigenous culture.
00:35:43.680i think that is so damaging and i was speaking to some people about this at um a first nations
00:35:51.200event yesterday and it does feel like especially with tarik's tiktok that it's and sienna's it's
00:35:58.520almost being like nipped in the bud kind of like this has kind of been emerging and first nation
00:36:03.560creators have like not they shouldn't have even had to in the first place like they should not0.99
00:36:08.340have even been a thing but it feels like they've kind of come out now and said like this is fuck0.82
00:36:12.380like what are you guys doing stop it and our our culture isn't an aesthetic it's not a joke it's0.96
00:36:19.940like thousands of years worth of history and culture um so i'm hoping that because of these0.91
00:36:25.840conversations that people are like oh shit like check themselves and you know actually help0.89
00:36:33.540indigenous people pay the rent show support show support for actual nam core brands so tarik in the0.97
00:36:40.180um tiktok says you know what actually is noncore it is brands like non-based black labels like
00:36:48.180nagali house of dizzy roland vision and of course clothing in the gaps so like support those brands
00:36:55.020don't like dress up in your car keys and sorry tarik also notes like the mr winston jumper like
00:37:00.340you do that you do you but don't pretend like that is not like that is a nam aesthetic it's not
00:37:07.700I'm having trouble verbalizing this point as well but I feel like this also just shows that
00:37:15.820there is cultural capital and coolness that's afforded to people that I guess
00:37:23.100are seen as allies or you know on the outer I don't know how to describe this but
00:37:30.580like there's cultural capital afforded to people who are seen as allies to First Nations people
00:37:37.020and that safety is not actually afforded to actual first nations people yes yes yes yes
00:37:43.300yeah we signed up so well and i think yeah a lot of that came after the black lives matter movement
00:37:50.320and just being seen like we have to do more than just putting nam in our bio sorry like
00:37:56.200it should be a daily practice of like hey what am i doing to decolonize my life or my city or
00:38:05.280even language like my my city it's not my city you know what i mean like things like that um
00:38:10.700supporting just brands doing what you can to just uplift voices is so much more than getting
00:38:19.520together with your friends in front of the state library dressed in your nam core drip you know
00:38:23.200so i want to say a big thank you to tarik for taking the time to make the tiktok video in the
00:38:29.500first place because i think it was such an important conversation to have on that particular
00:38:34.820platform where Namcourt is really like emerging and for taking the time to answer our questions
00:38:41.820today definitely give them a follow at literally Kate Bush on Instagram and TikTok they also
00:38:48.620have the best fashion content as a side
00:38:51.320it is time for recommendations Jazz I'm really excited to hear what you've loved reading listening
00:39:03.240to all watching this week so kind of a controversial recommendation today because this movie has been
00:39:10.100slated online but i have been reflecting on it the last day or two and i think i liked it it is
00:39:16.780persuasion which is a jane austen adaptation it is available on netflix and is directed by carrie
00:39:23.300cracknell who has a lot of um experience in the theater and it loosely follows the plot of austen's
00:39:30.720original so we've got ann elliott who's played by dakota johnson she is rich pretty charming and0.59
00:39:36.820was once in love with a poor young sailor frederick wentworth they are engaged they were engaged to be
00:39:44.000married but it's ann's friends and relatives who then convince her that she shouldn't you know
00:39:49.200throw away herself at 19 or male with no money and so she breaks his heart and then we fast forward
00:39:55.200to eight years later she's dealing with the fact that like she never had this like her love of her
00:40:01.260life and she's now kind of resigned to like looking after her sister's children and she's
00:40:05.580considered a spinster and like a difficult woman etc um meanwhile Wentworth has become like a navy
00:40:11.340and he's rich and he ends up coming back to um where they live and stuff ensues I don't want
00:40:19.340too much away but that is the basic plot of the film um so i loved this film because
00:40:26.620if you don't compare it to jane austen it's actually such an easy watch like
00:40:32.420it's an hour and 50 minutes it's beautiful costumes beautiful um scenery there's a scene
00:40:40.800by the ocean she like swims in the ocean and it's just so stunning um set in bath which is
00:40:46.140like beautiful Regency era stuff it's very Bridgerton you could tell they were trying to be
00:40:50.220Bridgerton one thing I didn't like about it is the way Anne Elliot slash Dakota Johnson breaks the
00:40:57.100fourth wall so she's the narrator and she speaks to the camera quite often and I just feel like
00:41:02.580that takes me out of it I feel like I'm then watching a modern kind of show that was a lot
00:41:07.720of the criticism as well was that um it's like the fleabagification of Jane Austen which is very
00:41:15.000funny but so I kind of went in with an open mind and the next day I was like you know what I actually
00:41:23.360did enjoy that one hour 50 minutes it was just yeah an easy watch and I loved this piece for
00:41:29.180Cosmopolitan uh which is titled the new persuasion may not be for Jane Austen Puris but it is for
00:41:35.320sad girls by Leah Marilla Thomas it reads maybe the biggest critique of the movie is that Johnson
00:41:41.420as Anne doesn't look or talk like an Austin-era heroine. Sure, Johnson's Anne looks a bit like a
00:41:47.280time traveller who has been resigned to her fate, but Keira Knightley's bangs were flopping around0.99
00:41:51.620in the 2005 Pride and Prejudice 2. This is a period piece for those of us who don't wait
00:41:56.600until Pumpkin Spice is on the menu to listen to folklore, an important demographic. It's for
00:42:01.800driving through the suburbs and crying. It's for those who are prone to self-sabotage and lie awake
00:42:06.560spiralling about all the different ways things could have gone with a crush, another important
00:42:10.600demographic this is a period piece for people who heard the word chuggy and shuddered a little bit
00:42:16.020because they were like that might be me books do not go to bed at night dreaming about becoming
00:42:21.080films when they grow up they're already grown if you're an austin purist and can't get past
00:42:26.160all of this then by all means feel free to skip this one oh that is such a great line books do
00:42:32.780not go to bed at night dreaming about becoming films when they grow up they're already grown
00:42:38.260love it oh and I thought yeah like such a a good thing to remember like Jane Austen is over 200
00:42:45.340years old her work is over 200 years old it's important for it to be like accessible to new
00:42:50.720audiences and people who don't want to read through like hundreds of pages of like old
00:42:55.640fashioned English um but I do I do understand like the flip side of it as well because apparently
00:43:02.260the original is very like I haven't seen it or read it this is actually like my first interaction
00:43:07.560with persuasion um it's like very romantic i feel like the most romance was like quickly
00:43:13.720shoved into the end of the movie but anyway also there's a birdie song like an original song made
00:43:19.320for the movie and i sobbed it's at the end of the movie and it's just so beautiful so there
00:43:25.060were definitely positives and i feel like the internet can get on a bit of a momentum of a
00:43:29.020hate train sometimes and like there's like four bad reviews so then everyone's like oh god oh and
00:43:34.100like the social media machine continues so I feel kind of bad for this director so anyway
00:43:40.020if you're into like Bridgerton and like lighter not super heavy kind of like your Emma like the
00:43:46.400recent Emma adaption or Clueless etc watch this it's just like an easy romantic comedy if you
00:43:53.260don't think about it as a Jane Austen movie yeah lovely I'm glad that you enjoyed it and I feel
00:43:58.980like sometimes that's all you can really ask from a film like yeah i enjoyed sitting through that
00:44:04.040like i can be enough so thank you jazz and what have you loved that you've read watched or listened
00:44:09.920to this week i feel like i have been a bit slow this week to consume much content um but me and
00:44:16.780you joined a book club and we had our first book this week and it was the seven husbands of evelyn
00:44:23.340Hugo by Taylor Jenkins Reid so I think many of our followers would have at least heard of this
00:44:31.320book if not read it it is this fun and enthralling romance book it's very hyped and very popular
00:44:38.760it's also being adapted into a film which we agree that we will think will be great like it's a great
00:44:45.320medium for it even though it's a grown book on its own so I went in knowing nothing about the plot
00:44:52.020and it is about just very briefly a fictional old Hollywood star called Evelyn Hugo who at the age
00:45:00.320of 79 gives a final interview to an unknown journalist Monique Grant. It kind of flip-flops
00:45:08.280from this modern day interaction of this young journalist learning more and interviewing Evelyn
00:45:13.660as well as jumping back to Evelyn's long life where as it says in the title she's had seven
00:45:20.900husbands and a glittering film career. I found it quite salacious and a bit gripping. It's very
00:45:28.680much like book club fodder. Like this, you know that the mums will love this as well. And I did
00:45:35.900too. I finished it quite easily in about four days. I am unsure about the force of racial
00:45:42.440representation in the book taylor jenkins reed is white um but evelyn hugo is cuban and monique
00:45:51.200grant is a biracial black woman um but that's for another day i did want to add though i did
00:45:59.000see the new minions movie this week which is funny um and they really randomly had great
00:46:06.580Asian representation and it was actually done well and just goes to show like let's look to
00:46:14.260Minions as a you know as a prime example um that was half a joke but no they actually did that
00:46:20.560pretty well so just wanted to add that I love that we also got like a little Minions recommendation
00:46:25.000in there actually I would not recommend it in the cinemas but like it's still a cute watch you know
00:46:29.560but yeah why wouldn't you recommend it in like I wouldn't like buy it like spend that much money
00:46:34.320on it oh gotcha gotcha gotcha yeah I also enjoyed this book um I listened to the audiobook um kind
00:46:41.740of controversially but I found that just as enthralling and you can so visualize as a movie
00:46:48.480or series like the characters feel so real and actually last night watched um like a little
00:46:55.180Audrey Hepburn documentary because it was all about like this the glamorous stars of like the
00:47:00.32050s and i think that was sparked by edwin hugo and just like wanting to see that like world
00:47:06.780from you know 60 70 years ago so there we go that's all we have time for today thank you so
00:47:14.820much for listening it's been super super fun um and we always appreciate your lovely words and
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00:47:28.540and we will be in your ears next week bye