Culture Club - Our 2023 Predictions, Live At Beyond The Valley Festival

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome back to culture club after the longest summer break ever yes we have had a

00:00:14.860 relaxing break lots going on and we can't wait to dive back into the world of pop culture news

00:00:21.260 and current affairs very very soon but for now here is our live episode recorded at beyond the

00:00:28.260 valley on new year's eve 2022 we did have some technical difficulties getting this one up but

00:00:35.200 we're so happy that it's out in the universe now thank you to anyone who was there in person

00:00:41.200 listening to us and again massive shout out to btv for hosting us enjoy

00:00:46.140 on the podcast stage it's the second last second last guest that we're having on it's been such an

00:00:54.400 amazing um week here at beyond the valley of the podcast stage first ever podcast stage

00:00:59.800 in australia very innovative we love we love to see it um this next podcast is called culture club

00:01:06.720 it's by two australian writers maggie zau and jasmine wallace so please put your hands together

00:01:12.580 for culture club a bit more come on come on bring it up bring it up lads let's go let's go

00:01:22.000 thank you so much Frooms for introducing us and hi everyone we're Culture Club yes and today we're

00:01:28.700 going to be unpacking all the drama from Fitzroy Garrard's sesh we're going to be looking back at

00:01:33.720 this year's wildest stories and we'll be sharing our 2023 predictions all from live from beyond

00:01:40.520 the valley festival so as you heard we're Maggie and Jasmine and we run a podcast called Culture

00:01:46.720 Club which is a weekly podcast about pop culture, current affairs, internet trends and a little bit

00:01:52.760 of our lives as well when we want to. Yes and before we begin we would like to acknowledge

00:01:57.480 that the Wadawurrung peoples of the Kulin Nation and the Eastern Mar peoples of the South West

00:02:03.180 Victoria are the traditional custodians of this land we are on today. We would like to pay our

00:02:08.620 respects to Elders past and present and extend that to any First Nations people here or listening.

00:02:14.040 we'd also like to celebrate the rich history of first nations culture and storytelling that we

00:02:20.180 are continually learning from this always was and always will be aboriginal land so jazz all

00:02:27.340 these lovely people overheated people in this tent must be wondering who we are um we'd like

00:02:33.420 to introduce ourselves so i'm maggie this is jazz we've said that like 30 times um but we are both

00:02:39.000 writers together we have written for publications including refinery 29 vice fashion journal

00:02:46.680 mtb pedestrian tv frankie l murray claire and more so this is a bit of a weird situation for

00:02:54.820 us to be in usually when we record the podcast we're at home in our office in our pajamas

00:03:00.480 literally drinking tea on a sunday night so this is a bit out of our comfort zone but we're going

00:03:04.760 to have some fun anyway exactly um this might be embarrassing for us but has anyone listened

00:03:11.940 to culture club before raise your hands if you had thank you three people probably our mom

00:03:19.440 anyway thank you thanks for listening um so because it's new year's eve we're going to be

00:03:25.440 shaking it up a bit usually we just talk about what's happened in the week but we're also going

00:03:29.820 to be doing some recaps of 2022's Wildest Pop Culture Stories, as well as our 2023 predictions.

00:03:36.600 We'd also like to say a massive thank you to Bella Haig, our sign language interpreter.

00:03:41.880 A massive round of applause for Bella, please.

00:03:47.760 Okay, we're going to start with our 2022 recaps. So first up, the most random internet beef of the

00:03:54.920 Yeah let's take it back a bit to when Doja Cat and Noah Schnapp from Stranger Things had this

00:04:00.680 weird internet feud. Like why was this real? I cannot believe that this is a thing right this

00:04:06.940 little 17 year old teenage boy and Doja Cat queen of TikTok um feuding so what actually happened

00:04:14.520 Jazz? Why was that happening? So Doja Cat slid into Noah's DMs asking if Stranger Things co-star

00:04:20.460 joseph quinn had a girlfriend noah shared a screenshot of their convo which led to doja cat 0.98

00:04:26.240 to flip out and called it snake shit and weasel shit do you have any sides here because i feel 0.97

00:04:32.460 like it was a little bit embarrassing on both sides just like you know noah being a very much 0.99

00:04:38.900 a 17 year old petty boy sharing dms which isn't social etiquette but then if i was doja having

00:04:45.860 my little crush shared publicly i would be blushing but apparently the reason that dojo

00:04:51.780 was so upset is because she was dating someone at the time so she kind of got called out for it

00:04:55.620 awkward but yeah that was i think the one of the like most random internet beefs that we saw

00:05:01.160 um but we were wondering does anyone have any of their 2022 craziest pop culture stories that

00:05:07.840 they remember that they want to yell out what was that sorry nothing oh i did hear someone

00:05:15.760 but that's okay we did not think that through um but one that i do want to talk about is the rise

00:05:22.320 and rise of julia fox okay can we give a cheer if we like julia i'll take that i'll take that but

00:05:31.520 when did we first learn about her jazz it feels like julia fox has been around for like for years

00:05:37.040 and years she's already like a main staple in pop culture but uncut jams was only in february

00:05:43.560 It was like a trend in February I saw on TikTok this week.

00:05:46.520 Yes.

00:05:47.440 So for those who might not be familiar with her, Julia Fox is 32 years old.

00:05:52.320 She's an Italian-American actress and model.

00:05:55.460 Yes, we love her from Uncut Gems.

00:05:58.080 I hated that I had to do that just then.

00:06:00.340 But now she's become like a lovable celeb, but her entry into fame was kind of rocky.

00:06:05.500 So before that uncut gem spiral moment, she was obviously seen dating Kanye West for a

00:06:13.080 solid six weeks.

00:06:15.580 And during that time, she had interviews with Interview Magazine, photo shoots, her love

00:06:20.940 letters were being published.

00:06:22.240 It was like a real kind of shoot to fame for her.

00:06:25.040 I know.

00:06:25.640 And we were a bit like, we were a bit sceptical.

00:06:28.700 We're like, why is this woman posting every little detail of her love life?

00:06:32.340 Little did we know we were playing into her hands. 1.00

00:06:34.780 she is like a plus celebrity right she's giving us what we want 0.99

00:06:39.340 yeah she knew what she knew what she was doing and now she's considered to be one of like 1.00

00:06:47.060 the voices of 2022 in a way like in terms of this kind of new internet feminism that we're seeing 1.00

00:06:54.340 and she's also been kind of compared to emrata who's also kind of had a bit of a pop culture

00:06:59.940 rebrand recently yeah so i actually we're going to be referencing tiktok a lot bear with us um

00:07:06.440 academic literature but i saw this tiktok by user fran uh black fran lebowitz sorry bear with me

00:07:14.560 um about how people like julia fox and and emrida's brand of feminism can maybe be narcissistic which

00:07:22.300 i found really interesting so in the video they were saying that uh their idea of feminism really

00:07:28.720 pretty much only is to do with themselves so their whole careers are based off their image

00:07:35.380 and the tiktoker contextualizes it by saying like rarely do these women acknowledge their 0.99

00:07:40.420 white privilege and how they operate under the patriarchy I like the line that they said which 0.95

00:07:45.540 was there's no dismantling it's just kind of hot take observations yeah definitely the hot take

00:07:51.580 observation thing but I feel like I don't know it kind of feels like capitalism feminism in a way

00:07:56.720 to me and especially with emirata being like a literal model but like the space for everyone i

00:08:02.900 don't know but i'm interested to see where they kind of take that um take their podcast or emirata

00:08:08.920 takes a podcast and julia fox takes her branding into 2023 because i feel like they're the new

00:08:13.720 kind of it girls yes i agree okay moving on to another scathing big pop culture moment we could

00:08:22.100 not have this show without mentioning the whole don't worry darling olivia wild harry styles

00:08:28.440 debacle oh my god that took up like three months of our lives that was all i cared about i'm so

00:08:33.760 sorry yeah i feel like it was we had two episodes dedicated just to don't worry darling and all the

00:08:41.240 surrounding tea and i feel like afterwards the movie came out and then everyone just was like

00:08:47.100 forgot about it almost do you think exactly and we were in the car ride over here like discussing

00:08:52.840 this and we're like okay so it kind of started when Olivia hired Harry to like star in this movie

00:09:00.320 after Shia LaBeouf was supposed to like star in this movie and then there was a whole thing about

00:09:06.360 the leaked um video that she sent to Shia where she called Florence Pugh um Miss Flo famously 0.98

00:09:13.640 and of course after the drama aired

00:09:18.080 there was the red carpet premiere in Venice

00:09:20.560 where supposed couple Harry and Olivia

00:09:23.160 barely like looked at each other

00:09:25.920 they were on opposite sides 1.00

00:09:27.800 Florence Pugh showed up late 1.00

00:09:29.700 in the iconic purple matching set 0.94

00:09:32.480 with her Aperol in hand 0.79

00:09:33.980 and then of course the infamous Bitgate 1.00

00:09:37.560 who could forget that

00:09:39.740 the internet had like weeks and weeks worth of content 0.86

00:09:43.620 for this one frickin' movie.

00:09:46.440 Wait, the way you were like Spitgate, 0.69

00:09:47.960 and I was like, what do you mean Spitgate? 0.83

00:09:49.060 There was Saladgate.

00:09:49.920 They had multiple gates in this one thing.

00:09:52.080 So Spitgate was, did Harry Styles spit on Chris Pratt?

00:09:55.920 What do you think?

00:09:56.860 Final verdict?

00:09:57.900 No.

00:09:58.640 I don't think he spat.

00:09:59.560 Who thinks that Chris Pine spat on Harry Styles?

00:10:04.740 No.

00:10:06.480 Everyone else is dead.

00:10:08.680 Cool.

00:10:09.100 Yeah, I think no.

00:10:11.500 I think it was the cameras.

00:10:13.860 It just made it look like it.

00:10:15.400 I'm giving, like, accidental spit,

00:10:17.240 but it's not that I know anyone who does accidental spits.

00:10:20.120 Accidental spit, Harry Styles.

00:10:22.260 Who knows?

00:10:23.520 And then I have to have a little shout-out to Jason Sudeikis

00:10:27.760 for lying in front of Olivia Wilde's car

00:10:31.620 when she was allegedly trying to drive to Harry Styles' house

00:10:35.860 with a recipe, a salad recipe,

00:10:38.260 that apparently was, like, a family recipe.

00:10:41.200 No, it wasn't a family recipe.

00:10:42.400 it was from um Nora Ephron's book Heartburn yeah which is like a um fiction novel from like the

00:10:49.460 80s yeah everyone kind of debunked no Olivia posted it that's right Olivia actually posted

00:10:55.040 the salad recipe on her Instagram because everyone was making jokes about it so at least the subject

00:11:00.040 is self-aware but yeah now hands up if you think that Harry and Olivia were a PR relationship or

00:11:07.680 not yes to p our relationship many hands it is really suspicious how quickly they broke up after

00:11:15.220 the film aired as well exactly so it's funny because we're talking about this now and i feel

00:11:20.420 like it's all really anticlimactic the movie's out it came out on like amazon prime or something

00:11:26.220 and like everyone loves to hate on this movie we both said that we enjoyed it it was a movie that

00:11:31.120 was good to watch in the movie okay like don't come for us but anyway without getting too heated

00:11:36.500 No, it was so funny.

00:11:37.740 We saw it at the movies and we were like,

00:11:39.760 this is the best thing ever.

00:11:40.880 We were like posting on Instagram.

00:11:42.060 We actually love the movie.

00:11:43.360 And then all these hot takes started coming out,

00:11:45.780 even from like publications that we write for,

00:11:48.140 like, I don't know, Pedestrian or whatever.

00:11:49.220 And they were like, this movie was so bad.

00:11:52.240 And we were just like, we're not film critics. 0.99

00:11:54.940 We are just pop culture shit talkers. 0.99

00:11:57.320 Yes. 1.00

00:11:58.080 We are enjoyers, actually.

00:11:59.700 We are enjoyers of films.

00:12:02.300 Yes.

00:12:03.000 Alrighty. 0.94

00:12:03.420 so the last shocking wild story from 2022 that we wanted to bring up was the whole wife guy moment

00:12:10.040 do we remember this so much has happened this year that I actually can't even remember like

00:12:15.620 when wife guy was and it was kind of definitely an internet conversation I feel like but it did

00:12:22.160 leak out into like mainstream press I would like to say so this kind of was at the same time when

00:12:27.880 maroon five singer adam levine was caught sexting a woman who wasn't his wife and he wanted to name

00:12:33.720 his child after her but that's another story um and then it turned into another story uh with one

00:12:40.300 of the world's biggest youtubers i guess from the try guys his name is ned fulmer who was caught

00:12:45.940 cheating on his wife with a co-worker i would like to say on the record that i've always thought that

00:12:51.300 adam levine gives off bad vibes if anyone's done karaoke and listened and watched his music video

00:12:57.400 for payphone jazzy's like where am i going payphone music video he comes off as the biggest 0.84

00:13:01.840 douchebag he like saves off a woman from like a bank robbery and then he like there's a car

00:13:07.500 blowing it behind him he's like shirtless and got his little glasses on he gives me bad vibes 0.67

00:13:13.120 he he does give off interesting vibes and i feel like people were kind of not um not surprised when

00:13:20.300 this news came out that adam levine of all people of course is sexting other women but then there

00:13:24.820 was also the rumor that it was that him and his wife victoria's secret model bahati prinsloo

00:13:29.740 have an open relationship because there was like barely any kind of public statements from bahati

00:13:36.320 or from the couple in general and luckily for adam this wife guy youtube controversy came out

00:13:42.300 literally like a week or two later so then of course he kind of got forgotten but we don't

00:13:47.860 forget we don't forget wife guy we don't forget wife guy gate did you just wife guy gate

00:13:54.280 and it also sparked we're kind of jumping between the two but I feel like the Ned Fulmer

00:13:59.160 YouTube controversy also sparked a conversation around like performative heterosexuality and

00:14:06.680 like married men kind of really putting their wives up on a pedestal but then

00:14:11.540 when does it when does it fall into like the ick category there was a lot of discourse about it and

00:14:18.420 I just thought considering it was a really niche uh YouTube drama not many people knew the Try

00:14:26.380 Guys before well I say not many obviously have millions of followers but I mean not many like

00:14:32.000 mainstream people who aren't into the BuzzFeed and the YouTube really were interested in it until

00:14:37.880 recently so now he's been excommunicated from the Try Guys and they are continuing on without him

00:14:45.080 So I wonder who will be the wife guy of 2023 is the question.

00:14:49.180 There will be many.

00:14:50.100 There will be many wife guys.

00:14:51.660 I see. 0.99

00:14:51.920 Oh, my God.

00:14:52.740 Might I name job later on?

00:14:54.500 We are doing predictions.

00:14:55.900 But maybe something between John Legend and Chrissy Teigen.

00:14:59.360 A little breakup maybe.

00:15:01.700 I feel like they've already had controversies.

00:15:03.680 Yeah, that's true.

00:15:04.960 We'll see.

00:15:05.580 We'll see.

00:15:06.160 Yes.

00:15:07.420 Okay.

00:15:07.780 We've spoken a lot about TikTok.

00:15:09.700 And now the latest TikTok trend has come from our own backyard.

00:15:14.500 and you probably know what we're talking about it is the infamous Fitzroy garage sesh

00:15:19.800 apparently some of the guys are here today so let's bring them out now

00:15:25.320 we wish we where's the green vest um so if you don't know what we're talking about

00:15:31.900 probably don't have tiktok but let us enlighten you so at the time of recording we checked like

00:15:38.620 this morning and the original video posted by a young last name andrew davey has over 4.6 million

00:15:45.840 views right and he uploaded this tiktok video that was slightly lots of cringe um and he named

00:15:52.560 it fits right garrard sash with the caption the vibes are here hashtag melbourne in it we see a

00:15:59.460 group of young guys in their early 20s all kind of awkwardly dancing to empire of the suns we are

00:16:04.680 people and the clip made quite a stir on social media when you saw it did you did you see the

00:16:10.980 original or did you see the kind of subsequent parodies from it I saw a couple parodies first

00:16:15.780 so there was a few local parodies and I was like what's going on searched it up and fell into the

00:16:21.880 hole that is Fitzroy Garrett's it is unavoidable everywhere we turn my friends but I feel like

00:16:27.780 if we like if we did this podcast on Monday we wouldn't talk about this because it is that fast

00:16:32.780 trend. I feel like people are already

00:16:35.140 kind of over it, but we're going to talk about it anyway.

00:16:39.360 It kind of went viral

00:16:41.320 because people were saying how performative

00:16:43.460 it was, how awkward it was

00:16:45.500 and how these people were just

00:16:47.220 making a party just for

00:16:49.480 the content, right? But that's nothing

00:16:51.460 new. Okay, so I want to

00:16:53.460 get real here.

00:16:55.380 Tell me actually how you really thought

00:16:57.200 when you saw these videos, Jazz. I want your

00:16:59.320 unfiltered response.

00:17:01.020 when I first saw it I was I saw the original and I was just like scrolling uh whatever looks like

00:17:07.240 they're having fun I guess scroll on and the parodies and like the hot takes some of the

00:17:12.900 discourse around like gentrification Fitzroy in general I thought was a bit far in my personal

00:17:20.400 opinion I thought has a little bit of merit but I also was like come on I think we're taking this 1.00

00:17:25.060 a little bit far because I think women do this kind of stuff all the time like this kind of 0.98

00:17:29.980 like having events or like going out together for content and everyone's filming from different 1.00

00:17:35.520 angles I don't think that's anything new for women is it because it was some like young guys 0.95

00:17:41.200 that people were like what the fuck yeah well I know you didn't ask but I'm gonna give it to you 0.91

00:17:46.360 what's your opinion I was so happy I was gleeful I was gleeful at this kind of downfall I'm so 0.98

00:17:52.840 sorry private school people here I'm so scared am I gonna get like robbed after this um but I was

00:17:58.260 like oh like i kind of like like it was fun it was jokey i was like these boys would have bullied

00:18:03.920 me in high school i am so sorry and they actually came out tiktoks from people who said that they

00:18:09.440 knew the boys let me get the notes up get the receipts up there was one girl who posted on

00:18:15.180 tiktok and said quote i would feel bad for the fitzroy garage boys if it wasn't for the fact

00:18:21.260 that one of them used to dm me constantly in 2017 flirting with me and asking me to hang out

00:18:26.580 only for me to find out that he had the most gorgeous girlfriend the entire time years later

00:18:32.000 I ran into him and went to say a harmless hello and he was so aggressive towards me because I had

00:18:37.440 a boyfriend so I was like that made me double down on my take but I do think it has gone quite far I

00:18:44.240 won't lie I feel like there's been some very aggressive behavior online but at the start I

00:18:48.720 was like yeah these boys look like they're cosplaying to be like indie boys sorry right

00:18:53.260 even the Guardian wrote about it which I think is when you know when the Guardian culture

00:18:57.420 starts like talking about TikTok trends that's when you know it's kind of like

00:19:00.540 blown up to that extent that like people are talking about it in that way they actually wrote

00:19:06.320 if you have the clock app you would have seen the boys their moustaches air punches and their

00:19:10.940 particular brand of self-conscious self-confidence everywhere and the for you page was pushing out

00:19:16.380 globally to like scotland canada and the uk um one user called alex wrote three kids under the

00:19:25.020 age of 12 in this household for the christmas break and this canadian weather please i'll

00:19:29.700 happily be transported to this fitzroy garage sesh in melbourne yeah and look okay devil's advocate

00:19:35.960 i know we were just kind of hard on them but i want to put up the argument we are all fitzroy

00:19:41.260 garage says we are all them why is that jazz sorry we are all Fitzroy garage to an extent

00:19:50.100 um I think that like I said before this is nothing new that's like next week there's going to be

00:19:56.400 another kind of trend in this way of people making content for TikTok and the cycle will

00:20:03.600 continue and this is just this week's um talking point I guess yeah like I'll like I'll admit I

00:20:10.340 like documenting things if I'm out with my friends or having a good time I'll take a video I'll

00:20:15.440 I'll put it on TikTok like it can be harmless fun and like you better like you brought up before

00:20:21.560 is it a gendered thing as well because like women a lot of like in our circles we do this a lot but

00:20:26.880 suddenly when guys are doing it they're becoming kind of slandered for it and of course there was

00:20:31.400 um just two days ago some homophobic slurs um graffitied on the garage doors so it's like okay

00:20:38.600 are men not allowed to creatively express themselves in this way oh my god do i sound

00:20:43.040 like andrew tate i'm so sorry anyway oh my gosh um this is getting so deep now but i read a

00:20:51.040 article it was actually written in 2020 by male gabbett um for fast company and the article is

00:20:57.700 called how social media is pushing us toward 1984 um so the quote is orwell's dystopian novel

00:21:05.640 reminded me that the real issue is that viral outrage is more than an accidental feature of

00:21:10.440 social networks it is the core of their products of what they're aiming to create a megaphone that

00:21:15.840 continuously puts content in front of you that is so powerful emotional and extreme that as

00:21:21.720 Orwell says it's impossible to avoid joining in and as you keep scrolling finding new topics for

00:21:27.320 rage is easy so I think that that this is like getting so deep but comparing like this chick

00:21:34.180 oh music stopped I don't have to yell anymore the TikTok um kind of content machine we all

00:21:41.340 are kind of creating this content with like someone else in mind like I think that's what

00:21:44.520 those guys were doing like making having a gathering but like filming while thinking of

00:21:49.860 like big brother or like someone else in the head through a third party perspective which we do all

00:21:55.040 the time like you're a content creator as well and like it is just this third person in your head

00:21:59.880 all the time that reminds me of like that meme that's like re-watching your own instagram story

00:22:04.240 for the 47th time you're like yeah this is it this is it um but in conclusion i also do want

00:22:09.920 to bring up like we think the boys are going to be okay we have intel at this very festival many

00:22:15.480 of them are here apparently they're going around taking snaps with people some of them are getting

00:22:20.020 brand deals out of this like they've got clout as well of course they've got clout and i don't know

00:22:26.540 if anyone else has seen this but char time you know like the bubble tea they've already like

00:22:30.500 done a parody of you know how they have all like the really weird little characters as their

00:22:35.200 mascots they have like they've like recreated it in front of the garage with all their little

00:22:39.660 mascots dancing to this empire of the sun song which is just so so random but props to that

00:22:46.440 social media manager for being like on this week's trend i guess poor social media working over

00:22:51.560 Christmas. Alrighty, so I feel like the Fitzroy Garrard Sesh conversation comes in at a good time

00:23:05.400 just because 2022, we're calling it, actually another publication called it first, but it's a

00:23:10.820 year of the micro trends. We've seen it in fashion, we've seen it in our lingo and we've seen it in

00:23:15.940 our internet trends yes um this is nothing new in our hyper fast um internet world um but the

00:23:23.740 naming of trends and cause has really seemed to ramp up this year in an article for the cut

00:23:30.020 danielle cohen wrote 2022 fashion felt defined by the hyper specific avatars we chose to shape

00:23:36.540 our wardrobes barbie dolls yes but also weird girls party girls ballerinas matriarchs who live

00:23:43.960 on the beach or coastal grandma dominatrices and clowns somehow but as the mood piled up sorry as

00:23:51.940 the mood boards piled up they're becoming just as difficult to sort through as the year's clothing

00:23:56.980 specific trends as much as I'd love to drape myself in Diane Keaton inspired linens the prospect of

00:24:03.300 dressing like Bella Hadid is equally alluring and I'm not sure I'll be into either of those options

00:24:08.360 by this time next year.

00:24:10.340 TikTok's many niche aesthetics may seem individualistic,

00:24:15.240 but in many ways, they're just rebranding trend following

00:24:18.480 as a form of dress up.

00:24:21.140 So with that, I want to ask you,

00:24:23.280 did you have any favourite fashion aesthetics or cause in 2022?

00:24:28.380 Okay.

00:24:29.340 I love a preppy aesthetic always.

00:24:31.900 I can see that by your loafers.

00:24:33.000 Yes.

00:24:33.560 A little loafers, a little plaid moment today.

00:24:35.640 what's the trend called with the two little plaits and the little bows at the end of it

00:24:41.160 cottagecore kind of it's like 2020 I feel like Olivia Rodrigo-fied cottagecore I wanted to grow

00:24:48.800 my hair out long just so I could wear true plaits like that's the extent I went to that was probably

00:24:53.980 my favorite aesthetic of this year little like Mary Janes maybe a tennis skirt you get the picture

00:25:00.080 How about you?

00:25:02.780 I think ballet core or something like that.

00:25:05.580 I remember I was in the office and I had my hair in the plaits and the ribbons

00:25:08.740 and you were like so jealous.

00:25:10.540 So jealous.

00:25:11.140 Like give me the plaits.

00:25:12.900 Yeah.

00:25:13.800 Because I saw you post a TikTok this week actually about disliking the

00:25:17.640 what I don't regret buying in 2022 TikTok trend that's happening again this week

00:25:23.240 where people post photos of like what they've loved buying

00:25:27.260 and what they don't regret even if it's like a trend um can you share your thoughts on that with

00:25:32.520 the crowd no hate no hate I was gonna do the trend myself just for full transparency and as

00:25:37.660 Jaz said people are sharing their favorite purchases of the year and it kind of like left

00:25:42.800 an icky feeling in me that's why I thought let me observe this a bit more and I was just like

00:25:47.740 why are we I guess amplifying or like celebrating these purchases that we've only had for a few

00:25:52.800 months and be like yes like i still like them after a few months that should be afforded i'm

00:25:57.280 like that's such a short time like shouldn't we be celebrating purchases we've had for like

00:26:01.420 three years five years ten years and it just makes me feel like um i guess the default then

00:26:07.680 is that we should be buying things that we do regret as well and i'm like that should be the

00:26:11.700 minority yeah true because when you first you posted like a sneak peek on your instagram

00:26:17.760 and I we don't always agree on stuff and so when you post to the Instagram thing being like this

00:26:24.860 is why I don't like this 2020 trend I roll my eyes a little I was like Maggie what is it now

00:26:30.160 what are you saying now and I actually watched the full video and then I I kind of I got what

00:26:34.680 you mean um it is important to like care about what you buy and want to keep it for years and

00:26:40.820 years not just because it's trending and of course you you're probably not going to regret

00:26:45.520 something you bought three months ago because it's still new like so i get what you mean by that

00:26:49.940 yes um so it's not just the fashion that is like in these micro trends at the moment um tiktok

00:26:57.940 trends are also dictating the color of our nails i.e the red nail theory how we show up at work

00:27:03.760 i.e quiet quitting who could forget that discourse and even the best or most aesthetic restaurants

00:27:10.000 and bars to visit in various cities around the world um a tiktok by user whitney maduke asked

00:27:17.360 the audience when will you be enough when will we stop like following these tiktok trends or at

00:27:24.440 least the one everyone's talking about that week and when will people be comfortable with themselves

00:27:29.780 i don't know like we talk about this because yeah like you mentioned there's been so many

00:27:34.140 different aesthetics like weird girl ballet girl whatever clean girl blah blah all the girls

00:27:39.240 All the girls, but all the girls are contradicting each other as well,

00:27:43.840 which makes me think like, hey, maybe there's more choice in it.

00:27:46.640 Like if we're telling you that natural and like 5am wake-ups are what's cool,

00:27:52.420 but we're also telling you like Bella Hadid,

00:27:54.660 like layering and like weird outfits, quote unquote, are in,

00:27:58.860 you have the choice to decide which it will be for you.

00:28:02.540 And I don't think that's slowing down in 2023.

00:28:05.000 Like I think that's going to continue, you know,

00:28:08.000 we're gonna eat them up I like looking at them like I don't take them too seriously I'm not

00:28:12.640 changing around my whole identity for them but I'm like oh yeah that's cute yeah I agree and I

00:28:18.800 feel like it's such a chronically online conversation to even have because like people

00:28:23.560 who probably aren't as online or who don't like write about culture for a living probably don't 0.92

00:28:28.540 give a fuck like people in the audience like what the hell are you talking about but I don't know I 0.87

00:28:33.320 think I think this will just keep keep spinning as long as at least as long as TikTok is a thing 0.99

00:28:41.240 but as long as TikTok keeps ticking all righty shall we move on to recommendations Jazz yeah

00:28:49.300 let's I'll go first like the rest of the world I watch Glass Onion over Christmas who else watch

00:28:57.200 glass onion at christmas yeah a couple hands yeah um so glass onion is the second installment of the

00:29:05.360 knives out series which stars daniel craig and imagine managed to score another all-star cast

00:29:11.200 with kate hudson katherine hahn janelle monet who's incredible and edward norton all as main

00:29:17.720 characters did you watch glass onion yes i did and i watched knives out just like a week or two

00:29:23.020 before then as well so i'm very much on my murder mystery grind so glass onion follows detective

00:29:30.000 benoit blanc as he's asked to join a group of highly successful friends for a murder mystery

00:29:34.800 party hosted by a tech billionaire called miles bron personally i preferred the first movie who

00:29:41.660 has seen knives out more people who okay who's seen both and who prefers knives out yeah like

00:29:49.720 everyone who said they've seen glass onion prefers knives out so i'm kind of recommending it to chat

00:29:53.960 about the genre in general um because i feel like it felt a bit on the nose um and a really obvious 0.99

00:30:01.360 comparison to elon musk in that evil tech billionaire but he's really stupid and this is 0.99

00:30:06.920 no spoilers by the way i'm not spoiling it but yeah he's just really stupid but like ridiculous 0.99

00:30:11.680 amounts of money um whereas the first one felt a little bit more subtle however obviously they 0.97

00:30:18.160 both still follow the themes of wealth and betrayal but it did make me want to ask why are we all

00:30:24.560 watching murder mysteries at the moment this could be a bit of a generalization but i feel like we've

00:30:29.780 had white lotus um only murders in the building which we love we talk about on the podcast quite

00:30:34.280 a bit and knives out and it does seem to me that murder mysteries are having a moment and they're

00:30:40.540 also the most fun type of tv that we're watching at the moment as well and you got to know like

00:30:45.460 jaz and i are not murder mystery girls we are rom-com girls she loves the period drama don't

00:30:51.740 know why um but yeah we're like fun light-hearted content seekers so for us to be all pivoting to

00:30:58.200 something a little bit harder i love how it's like a netflix original we're like yeah let's give me

00:31:01.980 the good stuff um but yeah it's a trend that we are seeing at least in our own lives yeah why do

00:31:08.600 you think this is why do you think the pop culture is loving murder mysteries at the moment it's like

00:31:12.600 giving like eat the rich as well I hate that I said that anyway um my recommendation later on

00:31:18.060 also feeds into this category as well but like a lot of them are about like ultra wealthy people

00:31:23.660 kind of being a little bit silly or being I'm trying to be careful about my words I'm like

00:31:30.860 no rich people in the audience please um but yeah I don't know why do you think so

00:31:35.040 so I love that it's like tech billionaire like trying to destroy the world just being a little

00:31:40.520 bit silly why are they being so silly um so i actually read an article from collider by douglas

00:31:45.800 leman titled why are murder mysteries so hot right now and he says murder mysteries then are the 0.92

00:31:52.600 perfect balm for a world that's unavoidably chaotic these tales acknowledge the presence

00:31:57.420 of violence and how randomly people can just die at any given moment however while occupying some

00:32:03.320 parts of reality murder mysteries also bring someone like hercule perot hercule perot from

00:32:10.760 death on the nile murder on the orient express or benoit blanc to come in and solve the case

00:32:16.220 this is where the irresistible escapism of the murder mystery to modern viewers enters the

00:32:21.600 picture because they combine the darker elements that we're already seeing in society like every

00:32:26.280 day and then it comes with a heroic figure who like comes in sorts out all the clues and saves

00:32:32.880 a day which I think at the end of the day is all we really want right now like especially as

00:32:37.820 young people facing like a lot of climate change stuff in our future we definitely want someone

00:32:43.360 to come in and just be like this is the solution oh look I cracked the case you're gonna have a

00:32:47.520 great life now but that's probably not what's going to happen so I think the reason that we

00:32:52.840 are loving these murder mysteries is because they yeah they give us that solution that we're kind

00:32:59.960 of craving and like within two hours as well right you sit down you know you're gonna get

00:33:03.860 a good fun story and by the end of it everything will be well and you're like why can't that be my

00:33:08.520 life um yeah why can't a detective solve my life um the article also references the fact that the

00:33:15.640 murder mystery has been missing from pop culture for decades so it was kind of really big in like

00:33:19.900 the 70s 60s 70s but um it wasn't just away for a couple of years like some trends but it was

00:33:26.680 actually away for decades so people are kind of missing that um or like people our age have never

00:33:32.580 experienced that kind of boom of murder mystery content before um and of course they also have

00:33:37.880 the all-star cast so everyone wants to see i don't know kate hudson and katherine hahn who were in

00:33:44.620 how to lose a guy in 10 days together 20 years ago see them together in the same movie again

00:33:49.600 or, you know, Daniel Craig.

00:33:52.400 There's also a surprise cameo from Hugh Grant.

00:33:54.620 Oh, my God.

00:33:55.720 Yes.

00:33:56.440 Iconic or sarcastic.

00:33:57.600 A lot of my life.

00:33:59.220 What is your recommendation for us today?

00:34:01.840 Yes, I've been going to the movies a lot.

00:34:04.540 Love me the movies.

00:34:05.860 Something I recently watched was The Menu.

00:34:08.700 Has anyone else seen it?

00:34:10.160 Hands up, please.

00:34:11.840 Yes.

00:34:12.500 Okay, wait.

00:34:13.560 Bella, I thought you watched it,

00:34:14.940 but you're just signing.

00:34:16.260 um anyway it stars Anya Taylor-Joyce Nicholas Holt and Ralph Fiennes and it's a dirt vine sorry

00:34:24.340 Voldemort um and it's a dark comedy thriller and it was such a fun watch similar to what you were

00:34:30.260 talking about then Jazz but essentially it takes place over one night where a group of a dozen like

00:34:36.900 ultra rich people dine at an exclusive fine dining restaurant which is on an island and things take

00:34:44.040 a dark turn it they show that in the trailer but you know won't give anything away but there's

00:34:49.260 violence there's murder what's happening um and I don't know with that being too scary because my

00:34:55.780 tolerance for horror is like Coraline and that's it um really um it had me on the edge of my seat

00:35:03.240 but it was just a really fun watch honestly we are we have no thoughts about movies we are of

00:35:09.900 the opinion actually you found a good tweet which was like it's called glass onion not glass opinion

00:35:15.160 because I don't want to hear the hot takes about these um but essentially the menu like mocks fine

00:35:21.300 dining culture wanky food scenes and entitled wealthy people um and yeah I just I just wanted

00:35:28.960 to give that one a shout out because I haven't seen too much about it either but I I think it's

00:35:33.560 worth a watch yeah I haven't seen it either but if you can watch it I can watch it we were the

00:35:37.740 like we said other movies watching don't worry darling which is fairly scary it's like two jump

00:35:42.580 scares and a little bit of blood and we were like holding each other's hand like literally

00:35:46.300 hiding our faces we're like the biggest wimp so if you can handle the menu then i will watch it

00:35:51.220 as well when it comes out on streaming yes

00:35:54.000 all right so now we've kind of spoken about the past what we're loving at the moment we're going

00:36:04.020 to go to the future which is like i don't know 12 hours away tomorrow 2023 um our 2023 bingo card

00:36:12.720 predictions yes this is our final segment for this episode today so we have gathered our brains

00:36:21.460 together and tried to put through a list um of what we think might happen in the pop culture 0.97

00:36:26.960 scene so put your money on these one guys um number one jules who the fuck brooklyn beckham 0.98

00:36:34.940 and nicola peltz will have a baby girl i feel like they have to have a baby because 1.00

00:36:42.300 one keep the nepo baby thing going but two i think nicola peltz's family is like paying

00:36:48.880 vogue and big publications to like be in her get ready with me videos and stuff like that

00:36:54.760 And I think people are already on TikTok, like, bored of them. 0.79

00:36:58.620 Brooklyn Beckham is, like, the poster child for the Nepo baby, 0.99

00:37:02.220 the kind of talentless Nepo baby who says that he's, you know, 0.65

00:37:05.200 a photographer and a chef and whatever. 0.97

00:37:07.340 So will they have to have a baby to keep the dynasty going?

00:37:10.820 But she is a billionaire. 0.95

00:37:12.140 Like, she comes from a billionaire family.

00:37:13.580 So it literally is a dynasty.

00:37:15.500 I would love to see it, though.

00:37:17.200 I'm counting on seeing the baby.

00:37:19.280 Yeah, I reckon it's a thing.

00:37:19.880 and I think that Justin Bieber and Hayley Bieber will have a baby boy a little baby boy you know

00:37:27.380 what I know so Justin Bieber cancelled his world tour a few months ago and he cited health reasons

00:37:33.780 he's going through a disease I think it is um it's quite serious but I also think like him taking a

00:37:41.380 step back from music Hayley Bieber is still Hayley Biebering but I do feel like a baby is on the

00:37:48.300 cards and a little baby boy i see that she looks like a boy mom do you know how americans say that

00:37:54.220 americans love that they're like i'm a boy mom i'm a girl mom we're just like whatever whatever

00:37:59.560 we get i don't know um kind of in the same sphere of justin and hayley bieber is i think that

00:38:06.180 selena gomez will direct an emmy winning tv series i think she's done the documentary and she's gonna

00:38:12.060 create this great series that's going to be like

00:38:14.400 culture shifting

00:38:16.320 at least and 1.00

00:38:17.780 she's going to win an Emmy or something along 0.94

00:38:20.240 those lines, something really big career wise 0.99

00:38:22.260 that's not acting

00:38:23.980 or singing. Yeah, I see

00:38:26.200 that. Okay, so

00:38:28.020 we are Emma Chamberlain

00:38:30.100 fans. I'm a massive Emma Chamberlain

00:38:32.380 fan. She's got a chokehold 1.00

00:38:34.240 on me. Yeah, Maggie's like probably 0.98

00:38:35.860 biggest like top ten fan but

00:38:38.080 does anyone else here, is anyone else here an Emma

00:38:40.060 Chamberlain fan? Yay!

00:38:42.720 Yeah, okay, cool. 0.61

00:38:44.540 Maggie actually introduced me to Emma Chamberlain.

00:38:46.380 Do you remember that?

00:38:46.780 Oh, my God, stop.

00:38:47.440 I thought you meant in person.

00:38:48.400 I don't really...

00:38:49.080 I wish.

00:38:49.460 No.

00:38:50.140 I had no idea who she was because I'm a couple of years older.

00:38:52.460 And, like, two years ago, you were like,

00:38:54.000 I'm obsessed with Emma Chamberlain.

00:38:55.240 And now I get it now. 0.95

00:38:57.260 But our prediction for Emma is that she's going to have a cancerable moment.

00:39:01.440 But I don't know what it is. 0.98

00:39:03.260 It's going to be a tweet or a fashion line that uses, like, child labour.

00:39:09.760 And then fans are going to do backflips to defend.

00:39:12.060 Yeah, I just feel like it's her time.

00:39:14.140 She's been, like, untouchable for so long.

00:39:17.480 Something might go her way.

00:39:18.920 Maybe it's to do with role model, her boyfriend.

00:39:21.360 Who knows?

00:39:22.040 We're speculating.

00:39:23.280 I don't want this to happen, but I think it will.

00:39:25.760 But we're putting it out into the universe.

00:39:27.220 No, I think it's not going to be something that's so bad she can't come back from.

00:39:31.300 Yes.

00:39:31.800 Yeah.

00:39:32.100 Okay, the next one.

00:39:33.120 Next.

00:39:33.300 Sorry, people will disagree, but that's okay.

00:39:36.420 We think that Timothee Chalamet will have a flop era next year.

00:39:41.540 sorry yeah dune i we wrote this down and then i realized that dune 2 is coming out that's no

00:39:49.660 redemption i'm so sorry i don't want to see the man in the desert that's enough that's enough

00:39:55.780 of the desert with zendaya um i don't know i feel like he's already people are already on tiktok

00:40:00.840 saying that he's giving them the ick for various things so maybe this year will be his flop era

00:40:05.520 he's probably mid-20s now and then he's gonna have a break and come back and be like a-list

00:40:11.420 like Brad Pitt um kind of Leo DiCaprio style like A-list stuff for the rest of his life

00:40:18.520 do you know what I mean you think so um so Olivia Rodrigo is due in to release new music

00:40:27.500 and Jazz wrote that she will lose OG fans which I do not agree with but I'll read out

00:40:33.840 this might be I don't know if it's really mean but I feel like she's had too long she's been

00:40:40.080 performing but I'm kind of like her album came out in 2020 yeah something like that sorry two

00:40:47.680 years ago I feel like it's been a long time so her fans have grown up or they don't care anymore

00:40:52.800 they're not into her music so I think she's gonna lose a lot of her OG fans but she's gonna

00:40:56.980 gain new ones she's gonna be fine like we love Olivia I think she's great and she's so young

00:41:02.780 for what she's doing yeah um but speaking of Olivia Rodrigo I think Taylor Swift is gonna

00:41:09.300 to have another celebrity feud but who with who with could be olivia rodrigo or conan gray there's

00:41:15.740 been some talks there but let's not get into that i feel like i don't want to put the bad juju out

00:41:19.680 there like our words have impact um but i do think there will be another feud there speaking of

00:41:27.340 breakups um we weren't just speaking of breakups but there's been a lot of sad chats that phoebe

00:41:33.700 bridges and paul mezcal have broken up broken up their engagement there's been talks of

00:41:39.280 Bo Burnham in the mix um but Jaz you are hopeful aren't you I am hopeful about Paul and Phoebe and

00:41:46.400 I believe that they are just either having a break or they're or they're in an open relationship

00:41:51.380 and I don't know if I'm like um delirious but I think that they're going to get married

00:41:56.440 yeah I mean I think they're breaking up so let's see we'll put money on both yeah we can put money

00:42:01.800 on it speaking of dating though I do think Sadie Sink who is 20 years old so she's similar age like

00:42:07.900 Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo. 0.96

00:42:09.700 From Stranger Things.

00:42:10.720 From Stranger Things.

00:42:11.580 What's her character's name? 0.94

00:42:12.920 The redhead one. 1.00

00:42:13.800 It's okay. 1.00

00:42:14.400 That's enough info.

00:42:15.860 But we think she might be the next one to start dating a 30-year-old.

00:42:19.320 We've had a lot of these young Hollywood stars date older boys. 0.93

00:42:23.380 So that could be her.

00:42:26.200 We're really running through the predictions.

00:42:28.380 But I think that Zendaya and Tom Holland will get married,

00:42:34.380 but it's going to be like a hard launch marriage.

00:42:36.400 like they would have been married months before like three four months before in kind of like a

00:42:41.480 secret ceremony vibe and then they're just going to post at the same time or that like collaboration

00:42:47.120 thing you could do on instagram they're going to post like a black and white image from their

00:42:50.760 wedding with like a really sweet caption like my mj my spider-man or mj and spider-man forever or

00:42:57.140 something along those lines and then they're like yeah we got married like four months ago i'm

00:43:01.660 believing it for the short kings you know they this will be a win this will be a hard-earned win

00:43:07.360 so i'll root for it too um we've got only a couple more one that we're very proud of we were like oh

00:43:14.640 yeah northwest right has been so good on tiktok her north and kim little tiktok account has been

00:43:20.800 booming and we think that at like what the ripe age of eight or whatever she is she will start

00:43:26.540 her own brand next year or a product release um so we wrote this in our notes and then we saw

00:43:33.060 a content and social strategy agency in sydney called hatrick house they said the same thing

00:43:40.060 so we just wanted to say that we said it first we said we have the receipts that it's on our

00:43:44.720 document we wrote this x amount of days ago and i think if hatrick house is all over it because

00:43:51.200 they are the best like one of the top content strategy brands if they're all over it it must

00:43:56.040 be true that northwest is going to produce i don't know makeup she's really into her makeup 1.00

00:44:01.060 maybe like a makeup line kim k is going to ease her into the capitalist family that is the 1.00

00:44:07.700 kardashians and that'll be there that'll be the start of um northwest kind of career

00:44:13.100 oh i have my last one is kind of a bit rogue it's not so much about celebrities but it's about um

00:44:20.880 a genre and I think that sitcoms like 90s style friends style sitcoms are going to come back

00:44:28.040 because we've there's a 70s show reboot that 90s show that's being released on Netflix like this

00:44:34.240 month um and that kind of follows that sitcom what's the word formula format and I think that

00:44:42.340 with a laugh track and everything it's going to come back and we're going to see like the

00:44:46.420 gen z version of friends yeah whatever that looks like but i think sitcoms people want light like

00:44:52.840 light moments people want fun the world is so i don't know dark right now so people want that

00:44:58.500 like light comedy so i think even though it's going to be released on streaming i think that

00:45:03.180 sitcoms will come back i love that i'm here for it um so you heard it here first these are the

00:45:09.480 official culture club predictions we'll be taking money at the end no we won't um but yes that

00:45:15.700 brings us to the end of the episode well firstly I want to ask does anyone have any 2023 predictions

00:45:21.300 that they want to share themselves yes Ariana Grande baby for those who didn't hear thank you

00:45:30.960 for that that was like so full of confidence I'm like she is pregnant already like that made her

00:45:35.960 pregnant if she wasn't already well she has been married for a couple years and she's really into 0.99

00:45:40.540 her whole family you know private life now did you see the other day that she took music musician

00:45:47.060 off her instagram bio yes i did so who knows if she's releasing new music she's very much

00:45:52.880 she's she's not releasing new music but we can hope we can hope i love her music yeah any other

00:45:59.040 predictions pardon the world's gonna end probably let's be honest who gives a fuck about justin

00:46:09.740 beaver when the world's going to end always will um i think that brings us to the end and unless

00:46:15.780 anyone else has any other fun predictions they want to share with the with us that's all good

00:46:23.000 cool we gave enough i think we have enough to put some money on so thanks so much for listening

00:46:29.140 today and thank you to beyond the valley festival pia who's backstage the daily oz and frumes for

00:46:37.140 having us as well as bella for translating today's episode yeah so you can find us if you want to

00:46:43.060 listen to any more episodes so wherever you listen to podcasts just search of culture club

00:46:47.700 on instagram or your podcast provider we will be there once again i'm maggie this is jazz and

00:46:54.420 thank you for listening

00:46:55.300 yay give the ladies one more round of applause come on yay well done guys

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Culture Club - February 06, 2023

Our 2023 Predictions, Live At Beyond The Valley Festival

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