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00:00:00.000 Harry Styles drops in on a mega fan, Kim Kardashian breaks the internet again with her 40th birthday

00:00:12.400 party, and abortion legislations result in protests across Poland.

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00:01:07.180 this week we were treated to so much harry styles goodness yes the golden music video came out the

00:01:18.680 other day and of course there was the news about harry visiting a super fan's house um when she

00:01:25.920 was away it was so wholesome and also i do want to say that i think harry styles in golden is my

00:01:31.780 favorite iteration of harry styles in terms of like looks that is like my favorite harry me too

00:01:37.400 when i've been like out this week i've been looking at plain white linen shirts and thinking

00:01:42.360 about how i can incorporate that into my wardrobe and have like a golden inspired look it's definitely

00:01:47.580 one of my favorite videos I think it is my favorite video so far I just love that song so much

00:01:53.120 and also just back to the goldfish story I want to know more details so his car broke down and then

00:02:00.020 I don't understand how he got into a superfan's house did the person's dad just like swing the

00:02:05.520 door open and be like Harry do you need some help like what yeah I want to know that as well because

00:02:12.500 then it's like did Harry not just call a person to like come fix the car it sounds too suspicious

00:02:19.440 you know what I mean I feel like that dad knew what he was doing and like planted something on

00:02:24.220 the road so oh no Harry Styles outside my house my daughter did not realize whatever anyway I think

00:02:31.700 what would have happened is he broke down and he was probably standing outside or it just happened

00:02:36.380 maybe the dad heard a noise and the dad probably came out and like helped Harry get it sorted

00:02:42.100 and while they were waiting for the car person the mechanic that's the word

00:02:46.340 waiting for the mechanic or whatever to um show up is when he took him inside and then he's feeding

00:02:54.360 her name's Theodora feeding uh Theodora's goldfish he signed her vinyl record and wrote her a note

00:03:01.700 it's so sweet it says Theodora my car broke down on your street and your dad's friend kindly let

00:03:07.400 me wait at your house with a cup of tea I'm devastated that we missed each other looking

00:03:11.620 forward to meeting soon treat people with kindness how sweet or in the news article i read as well

00:03:17.800 it said that um harry's gonna try and meet her at another point yes on the bottom of the note there

00:03:23.920 was only one photo floating around the web but it was cut off at the bottom and it looked like

00:03:27.860 like i'll try to be in contact or something so how sweet is that and to summarize we saw a great tweet

00:03:35.680 that ended with what in the what pad like is this not a fan fiction dream come true

00:03:42.000 can I ask you a question yeah when you were a super fan one direction and one direction super

00:03:48.420 fan did you ever write um like fan fiction I actually did not write it surprisingly I read

00:03:54.540 a lot but I never penned anything how about you no I never read or wrote any fan fiction

00:04:02.880 I was just like I wouldn't say I was a One Direction super fan I was just like

00:04:06.980 I really like their music um but I've never seen them live um I had badges of them when I was like

00:04:13.280 16 on my mirror um like pins you know how you could like put pins on your shirts and stuff but

00:04:18.740 that's it yeah well I don't know if you're deserving of this but you gotta tell the

00:04:24.940 listeners and myself about some special story we're in for such a treat today so you've met Niall

00:04:30.740 sorry he was my favorite he was my OG favorite when I was like you know about 13 or something

00:04:37.780 and obsessed with blonde white dudes I think very weird but um please explain yeah so it's kind of a

00:04:46.460 long story but when I was 17 I moved to London um because I was born there so I have a passport

00:04:52.320 and I didn't know if I wanted to go to uni or not so anyway moved to London and I lived with

00:04:57.120 some family friends now these family friends were they're a bit like 10 years older than me two

00:05:03.160 guys and one of them was ellie golding's manager oh that is so cool yeah hey can we try get ellie

00:05:10.860 on the pod well he's not her manager anymore so that might be a bit awkward yeah so this was 2014

00:05:18.820 so um kind of still they were all still together they were still in the band and everything and

00:05:24.640 we had this house party there were quite a few people there maybe 50 or 60 people I was dancing

00:05:29.560 in the kitchen slash dining room and oh my god this is so yeah so I was dancing I'm on the edge

00:05:37.080 of my feet I still can't believe it's real anyway dancing with this other girl and I span around

00:05:43.620 and I saw Niall Horan walk into the party into the room with his bodyguard and my jaw literally

00:05:51.140 dropped and um I said to the girl like oh my god that's now from One Direction like set and all

00:05:58.140 the people in the room were like really cool like music industry people and they were all like

00:06:02.120 mid-20s and older so I ran up to a friend of the families as well and was like oh my god Nile's

00:06:10.260 here Nile's here like you know so not panicked but in shock and she was like uh yeah like it

00:06:17.240 was so normal I was like oh my god so it was just me and this other one girl who were the only ones

00:06:23.400 who were not playing it cool like we weren't like stalking him or anything but like we were kind of

00:06:28.560 just in shock but we left him alone because I was thinking like okay how do I like introduce myself

00:06:33.760 and make it natural so I had brought this shows how old I was I brought Fanta to have Fanta with

00:06:39.220 vodka ew but I just needed a mixer I was 17 anyway I'd left it on the bench like a big bottle and I

00:06:45.960 was standing in a group of people and now comes over and he introduces himself to us there was

00:06:50.980 maybe four or five people there and he shook his hand shook our hands and um he was really nice

00:06:57.300 obviously like very guarded but I saw he was drinking Fanta oh my god this is so cringe now

00:07:03.260 but I was like oh are you are you drinking Fanta and he was like yeah and I was like oh like that's

00:07:08.580 mine but not I didn't mean it like in a um I know this is so cringe I didn't mean it in like you

00:07:14.960 can't have that it's mine I don't know I think I was just trying to like banter with him or like

00:07:19.340 make a joke or like have some kind of connection and he was like oh like thank you so much

00:07:25.440 um and I was like no worries and I was just thinking like how can I get a picture with him

00:07:32.280 because you know he was like around friends and he had his bodyguard with him and I was just like

00:07:38.140 no I can't do it so I never got a picture of him but then I walked past my room which was a spare

00:07:43.300 room and um Ellie Golding and Niall were having a conversation in my room so it was literally in

00:07:49.620 your house this part so in the house that I was living in so Niall was in your house

00:07:55.320 oh yeah I guess yeah in the house I was living there for like three months so yeah in the spare

00:08:01.220 room yeah so that's the story and then he left um he's not there for very long but it was so

00:08:09.060 wild and in that house i also saw marina and the diamonds she was lovely what this is so cool

00:08:15.880 and yeah obviously ellie golding and she was dating dougie from mcfly at the time and dougie

00:08:20.960 was so so lovely he like asked me all about my life and like he was really genuine but yeah i

00:08:27.280 guess being mega celebrities like that you're gonna kind of be a bit more guarded and not just

00:08:32.940 like be best friends with every like random you meet so now i was really polite basically is the

00:08:38.060 story and yeah I don't tell many people that because I feel like I don't know I don't want

00:08:43.520 to seem like I'm bragging or anything but um that was yeah one of those crazy moments

00:08:50.000 I think that definitely deserves a what in the what pad that's your that's oh my god sorry I'm 0.98

00:08:57.940 still kind of shook I didn't know all the details so um 15 year old me is really losing her shit 0.67

00:09:04.500 right now and 21 year old me right now yeah it's so surreal to think that happened I wish I had

00:09:11.500 something more to like have documented it but you know it's also nice to have the memory I mean

00:09:16.720 I would have 100% kept the phantom bottle oh yeah like as a momenta no I was here and everywhere

00:09:24.720 he walked his bodyguard went with him even in a party yeah and I was like wow like to even be

00:09:30.360 amongst friends um and it wasn't like a rager there were probably 60 people there in a private

00:09:36.560 house and he still had to have a bodyguard with him I was like wow imagine being that famous

00:09:40.600 imagine being famous enough that for your 40th birthday you hire a private island in Tahiti

00:09:50.960 and you fly over your nearest and dearest which is apparently 50 people all in the middle of a

00:09:57.580 global pandemic that is what miss kim kardashian did this week and of course we had to talk about

00:10:04.000 it because i think it's the biggest celebrity pop culture news of this week kim had her birth 40th

00:10:09.680 birthday party this week and posted some pictures on twitter you know on this beautiful private

00:10:15.780 island and captioned the tweets saying i am humbly reminded of how privileged my life is

00:10:22.540 i surprised my closest inner circle with a trip to a private island where we could pretend

00:10:27.360 things were normal just for a brief moment in time 40 and feeling so humbled and blessed there

00:10:33.280 is not a single day that I take for granted especially during these times when we are all

00:10:37.400 reminded of the things that truly matter they're obviously kind of quotes all pulled out from the

00:10:43.160 tweets you can um we'll post in our story the full tweets and the internet has gone wild for this

00:10:49.960 did you see all the memes yes and it was just so funny when I read out the tweets I thought it was

00:10:55.900 satire like I was like are you serious there was one about um with screenshots from the movie

00:11:02.640 Midsommar with the caption over it as well which were like so privileged to be with my closest

00:11:07.960 family and friends at this time and it's like a shot of Florence Pugh like screaming in the

00:11:11.700 Midsommar outfits things like that were going around they were so hilarious are we surprised

00:11:17.440 that the Kardashians have done this how do you feel about it no not at all are we did we expect

00:11:24.920 her for her 40th birthday to just have like a chill board games night at home like is that

00:11:30.020 what we thought you know maybe order a pizza and from dominoes like of course this is what she's

00:11:35.420 known for um of course it is severely tone deaf in this time you know so many people can't see

00:11:42.540 their family and they're not allowed to travel there's a travel ban in the u.s for non-essential

00:11:48.180 travel so just seeing this is very much a smack in the face but surprise no yeah

00:11:54.580 I think also it proves that just because you check your privilege in a caption or a quote

00:11:59.940 doesn't mean that you're like absolved of any of having any criticism or backlash against

00:12:05.600 you, you know?

00:12:06.660 Yeah.

00:12:06.900 And when she's saying that in the quote, when we are all reminded of the things that truly

00:12:11.140 matter.

00:12:11.900 So she's got that quote and then the accompanying images is like of her and her family in like

00:12:17.840 lavish ball gown.

00:12:19.280 They swam near Wales.

00:12:20.940 It was super luxurious.

00:12:22.380 and when you think of like things that truly matter and like I'm very humbled you kind of

00:12:27.680 think just of like family or you just think of nothing that extravagant right when you're like

00:12:31.940 oh things that truly matter in this time we've just realized oh we don't need much to survive

00:12:35.820 or you know only a few things truly matter but then she goes around and kind of shows this like

00:12:40.720 extravagant party it doesn't really add up yeah I think it's just especially given the state that

00:12:46.040 the US is in in particular it's just so tone deaf just because you say I recognize my privilege

00:12:52.880 doesn't mean like saying that doesn't make it any better do you know what I mean yeah but yeah I'm

00:12:57.380 not surprised either I think the memes are quite funny no matter whether Kim is kind of doing all

00:13:03.020 that law work to get people off um out of jail and stuff it doesn't make up for the fact that

00:13:09.100 they are still flying private jets around and like pushing for consumerism and it reminds me a lot of

00:13:15.700 like the times of Marie Antoinette and like the French Revolution where the people were literally

00:13:21.080 starving and didn't have enough money for bread and then the royalty were like in their castles

00:13:26.300 eating macarons and things like that it's so true it's basically like let them eat cake you know

00:13:32.380 also Kylie wasn't there why yeah Kylie and Kanye weren't there um yeah which is super random I

00:13:39.480 think i saw that i had like some work thing or whatever um but i've actually never seen an

00:13:45.200 episode of keeping up the kardashians not even five minutes right but from my assumptions is that

00:13:51.540 everyone loves to watch them for some kind of wacky entertainment i think about the classic

00:13:57.180 diamond in the ocean scene right we love to laugh and we love to observe because it's it's strange

00:14:06.480 it's so different to our normal life like we don't watch it because it's relatable

00:14:10.120 yeah it's like the um the cut podcast episode I recommended a few weeks ago that's why we have

00:14:16.840 celebrity right to like have some escapism and to kind of laugh and relate to each other and

00:14:24.060 how ridiculous these mega celebrities are yeah so this reminds me of an article I just read that

00:14:29.960 was in vice and it is by Emma Garland called the reign of the relatable celebrity is over 0.88

00:14:35.940 So let me just read a little part of it.

00:14:38.820 I've kind of just taken sections from sections.

00:14:41.960 The entire point of celebrities is that they are, crucially, not like other people.

00:14:47.460 There's something special about them that justifies why they are rich and famous and

00:14:51.240 the rest of us just sit around all day thinking up viral tweets about them.

00:14:55.200 Why would I want a celebrity to be anything like me?

00:14:58.060 I want peculiar celebrities, annoying celebrities, celebrities who aren't so desperate to appear

00:15:03.040 ordinary.

00:15:03.520 I want them to tweet deranged statements regarding their own genius, call their children XAA12

00:15:10.300 Musk, we'll never learn how to pronounce that, and dismiss getting shot in the stomach mid-interview

00:15:17.320 by saying it was not a significant bullet. Alisa being themselves. When Madonna posted that somber

00:15:23.500 video of herself naked in a bath full of rose petals the other week and called COVID-19 the

00:15:29.060 great equalizer, I was thrilled. Not because of what she said, which is stupid, but because the 1.00

00:15:35.080 entire display was so disconnected from any accepted form of reality that I had no choice 0.99

00:15:40.360 but to respect it. Thank God, I thought to myself, a real celebrity. Yeah, I think that sums it up so

00:15:48.060 well. I don't think that the Kardashians care that we're all offended that they've taken this

00:15:53.340 ridiculous vacation in the middle of a literal pandemic when people are dying and people are 0.61

00:15:58.420 having to have funerals over zoom like they've lived in this bubble for more than 10 years now 0.89

00:16:03.760 they're not gonna stop anytime soon the only thing i was surprised by is that she just didn't have to

00:16:08.780 post the pictures you know like they could have done this and yeah if it got leaked got leaked

00:16:13.120 but she was the one who was like this is what we've done and it was so beautiful and like yeah

00:16:19.200 but a few days afterwards chloe kardashian went on the ellen show of all the places we've spoken

00:16:26.760 about this before of all the places to go and defend your privilege let's go on the Ellen show

00:16:31.460 it was just so funny it was just like one rich person going on another rich person's show

00:16:36.320 defending her rich person actions to an audience of like poor people literally it's like it's okay

00:16:42.620 like we're allowed to go on an island like Kim is so sweet for doing that for us yeah she also

00:16:50.100 kind of defended the action saying it was really good tourism being like oh we had some of their

00:16:54.440 first guests and ages and stuff like that but it's like well other people aren't allowed to

00:17:00.000 go over it was strange yeah it's like one rule for them another for us but um on the ellen show

00:17:05.840 chloe said admitted she admitted that she hadn't heard much about the criticism but then said this

00:17:12.440 year is a frustrating year i get it i think there are so many frustrations going on for everybody

00:17:17.140 but also it's her 40th and this is something that she really wanted to do for us it was such a nice

00:17:23.220 thing like as if no one else has turned 40 or had anything you know major that they've wanted

00:17:29.860 to celebrate and haven't been able to it's not even like a 50 50th it's like a 40th is so

00:17:35.580 irrelevant I reckon it's like 30th is kind of big like 40th and then you know but yeah again not

00:17:42.860 surprised. Just a word of warning that this next segment covers topics that may be triggering,

00:17:54.980 including abortion. If you or a loved one are struggling with these topics,

00:18:00.100 turn to our show notes for links and resources on where to get help.

00:18:06.740 A couple of weeks ago, Poland's Constitutional Tribunal ruled that abortion due to fetal defects

00:18:12.800 is unconstitutional, rejecting the most common of the few legal grounds for pregnancy termination

00:18:18.480 in a predominantly Catholic country.

00:18:21.800 Chief Justice Julia Przlebska said in a ruling that the existing legislation that allows

00:18:27.600 for the abortion of malformed fetuses was incompatible with the Constitution.

00:18:34.060 Poland's High Court ruled in favour of a near-total ban on abortion, which means after

00:18:39.720 the ruling goes into effect abortion will be only allowed in the case of rape incest or a threat to

00:18:46.200 the mother's health and life which actually only makes up about two percent of legal terminations

00:18:51.920 conducted in recent years i think statistics around this can be murky because the country

00:18:58.300 has 38 million people and they say that they have fewer than 2 000 legal abortions a year

00:19:04.420 But women's groups estimate that up to 200,000 procedures are performed illegally or abroad.

00:19:12.940 So if our maths doesn't fail us, for one legal abortion, there are 20 illegal or abroad abortions performed.

00:19:20.800 And that's before this constitution has been brought in, this new law. 0.90

00:19:24.880 So it's huge news.

00:19:26.800 The Council of Europe said that it's a sad day for women's rights.

00:19:30.000 Since this was announced, on the 23rd of October, protests have been occurring all around the country.

00:19:36.360 And on Wednesday, pro-choice activists called a woman's strike that attracted over 400,000 people to protests in over 400 towns and cities across Poland.

00:19:47.480 On Friday, there were about 100,000 protesters who were taking to the streets of Warsaw, the Polish capital.

00:19:53.400 and it's the largest demonstration since Poland's ruling right-wing law and justice party came into

00:20:00.360 office in 2015 but hours before the protest on Friday Poland's right-wing president announced

00:20:06.060 a legislative solution to the political crisis and proposed that terminations in instances where

00:20:12.500 birth defects are terminal would be allowed but terminations of fetuses with conditions such as

00:20:18.480 Down syndrome, would be banned. Even though he said that to kind of calm both sides of the

00:20:24.080 protests down, of course, went ahead. And it's been a really one of the biggest protests in

00:20:28.920 the country. Unfortunately, there have also been some nationalists who are going through the crowds

00:20:33.380 and the protests, inciting violence, carrying knives and batons. The founder of the right-wing

00:20:38.940 party also called on nationalists to defend churches from the protesters because some of

00:20:43.940 them have been defaced. So it's starting to become similar to the US in this kind of left

00:20:48.520 versus right battle when ultimately this is about women's rights. It's really scary. I think hearing

00:20:55.000 about things like this is terrifying because, I mean, it was quite interesting. I saw a photo

00:20:59.560 of protesters. This was in America and a group of women were all dressed up like handmaid's tail, 0.63

00:21:05.560 you know, in like the red gowns because, I mean, hello, it sounds like that. And yeah, in the US

00:21:12.960 with the appointment of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court like the future of Roe v. Wade

00:21:19.920 is really on unsteady legs. An explanation of Roe v. Wade is that it was a landmark decision of the

00:21:28.720 U.S. Supreme Court in 1973 and the court actually ruled that the constitution of the United States

00:21:36.340 protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government

00:21:41.880 restriction. Yeah so obviously around the world women's rights and abortion rights are being

00:21:49.420 questioned and are very unsteady which is just crazy to think about in the year 2020. I didn't

00:21:57.000 know too much about it because I was almost under the impression of oh if abortion is legal in a 0.82

00:22:02.840 state well that's a good thing it's just legal like hooray let's celebrate but I was listening

00:22:08.340 to the cuts episode this week which was called the last four years the last five decades and they

00:22:14.780 kind of unpack the accessibility of abortions and kind of what this new election this upcoming

00:22:20.820 election will mean for them as well and same with in Australia I think like wasn't it New South

00:22:26.220 Wales they only just legalized them a few years ago yeah just last year actually last year yeah

00:22:32.160 Yeah. So last year I was co-editor of my uni magazine called Esperanto Magazine. And we had

00:22:38.560 worked on an article about Australia's abortion laws. And I had no idea how they were varied

00:22:44.960 across all states. Now it's technically legal in every state, but every state has different laws

00:22:51.100 and they all kind of differ according to, you know, it's legal up to how many weeks and it's

00:22:56.440 legal if you get one or two doctors approval so it's really kind of tricky and the other thing is

00:23:02.940 it's accessible depending on your postcode technically because financially it's not easy

00:23:09.040 so in Victoria the average cost of a medical abortion is roughly $560 while a surgical

00:23:15.660 abortion is roughly $495 so while we can kind of applaud like oh it's technically legal it's

00:23:23.100 actually not accessible to everybody so it's still an ongoing issue yeah definitely going back to the

00:23:29.440 u.s like it's even worse and i was also listening to that podcast and they were saying that you know

00:23:35.820 how republicans or conservatives have been saying defund planned parenthood but planned

00:23:40.120 parenthood doesn't even get like taxpayers money right yeah there's an amendment in the u.s or

00:23:46.360 whatever and basically it means that since the 70s no taxpayer monies have actually gone towards

00:23:52.880 abortions it is fully out of the person's own wallet I feel like loads of people use that as

00:23:58.020 an argument against abortions like I don't want my money fueling them and I'm like well they're not

00:24:03.000 yeah and especially in the US when medical care is just like so so high so yeah I think given that

00:24:08.800 the election is this coming up this week um you know Amy Coney Barrett has just been nominated

00:24:14.100 against Ruth Bader Ginsburg's wishes which I think is just awful they were RBG's last words

00:24:19.920 basically like don't elect anyone else until a new president has been chosen and now a super

00:24:25.780 conservative religious woman can make decisions and make laws until she retires like for the rest 1.00

00:24:33.720 of her life you know like she's got that job for life now and that's so terrifying so I don't know

00:24:38.100 if we have any listeners in the US or Poland but you know we're sending our love and thinking of

00:24:43.760 you and this fight because it's just awful that this is a debate and it's so obviously not about

00:24:49.980 the babies or it's about controlling women's bodies it's like all those picketers outside

00:24:55.380 Planned Parenthoods in the U.S. who are saying like this is going against God and you're murdering

00:25:01.800 babies but it's like where are those people when the baby's born or what are they doing to help

00:25:07.220 children who grow up in neglected homes you know it's not it's all about controlling women and it

00:25:12.860 makes me so mad yeah and i think it really rings true that this wouldn't be the end of abortions 0.58

00:25:18.860 it's the end of safe abortions it just proves what women will do when they're desperate and

00:25:24.400 it's so true in that this won't be the end of abortions for women in poland or the u.s it's

00:25:29.320 safe abortions and people will die if like laws like this come into place especially in poland

00:25:36.200 saying you can't terminate a fetus if it has defects that also puts the mother at risk and

00:25:43.060 it just reduces us to these like biological parts that our only function is to have children and

00:25:49.220 babies and if you get pregnant it's all your fault and there's so many things that go into it 0.63

00:25:53.880 seeing those protests the pictures of those protests is so amazing and I really hope that

00:25:58.140 it makes the president and those political parties take note and maybe not let this legislation go

00:26:04.460 through yeah scary times what have you been reading watching or listening to this week Maggie

00:26:16.820 so this week I want to recommend a podcast episode of reply all episode is called introducing

00:26:24.140 resistance and it basically is introducing a new podcast show called resistance I know this is kind

00:26:29.820 of complicated it's kind of like podcast inception like a podcast within a podcast but yeah so this

00:26:35.560 new podcast is a show about refusing to accept things the way they are it has compiled stories

00:26:41.380 about protesting from the front lines of the movement for black lives and it is hosted by

00:26:47.500 saiyee tijong thomas jr i found this episode to be super moving and a really great listen so this

00:26:55.540 first episode follows Derek Ingram who is a member of the activist collective called Warriors in the

00:27:01.620 Garden which is predominantly made up of black and brown folk in their 20s and it kind of was

00:27:06.220 created through this year's Black Lives Matter iteration. So after a big night out Derek is 0.98

00:27:13.040 woken up by a policeman like banging on his door saying he has a warrant for his arrest but after

00:27:18.920 you know asking the policeman like oh sure like show me it it became obvious that he didn't

00:27:23.980 actually have one after time goes by more and more cops show up at his door and try out all

00:27:30.360 these ridiculous like scare tactics on him trying to get him to open his own door and he's like 0.92

00:27:35.640 private property you know they even bring up things like his dead grandma it's really ridiculous 0.66

00:27:40.300 because he is quite an outspoken activist online so i think they had access to that information

00:27:45.380 they even got like a black cop to try be all buddy buddy with him i'm gonna insert some audio now 0.95

00:27:52.240 literally they had a black officer at my uh fire escape like bro i'm black you black come on like 0.99

00:28:02.380 i'll make sure nothing happens to you and i'm like yeah type shit and then at another point 0.99

00:28:08.660 he came back and was like come on d come on i gotta pee let me in what he was like come on man 0.97

00:28:15.540 he's calling you d yeah like we have some kind of like rapport like he was trying to build rapport

00:28:21.420 and how were you reacting to that not at all i wasn't i had too much going on i couldn't even

00:28:27.680 process their like intimidation tactics and i thought the black thing was kind of funny i was 0.96

00:28:33.720 like are you you really think i'm that dumb that i'm come on come piss yeah we're homies yeah like 0.95

00:28:40.180 i got you so yeah i would recommend people listen to this episode of reply all rather than the first 0.89

00:28:47.300 episode of the actual resistance podcast because I found this one to be really thrilling and

00:28:52.360 engaging and yeah I think it's really good to reflect what's been happening in the past few

00:28:57.380 months of course back in June where Black Lives Matter was so saturated and so front of mind and

00:29:05.380 splashed across the internet we can't just forget after the hype I guess is over we've got to keep

00:29:11.760 educating ourselves and keep checking in with our own beliefs and actions I found this was a really

00:29:16.740 great show that kind of looks at what protests actually do as well. Sounds really interesting.

00:29:22.140 I think it's really, I think podcasts can be a really good format for making you feel more like

00:29:27.380 you're part of the story rather than reading, you know, something on a screen, listening to

00:29:32.140 real audio tapes, the way some podcast hosts can make it more like a narrative story, I think is

00:29:39.340 really engaging. And I think a lot of people learn better that way than reading and taking things in

00:29:44.940 that way so I'll definitely be giving that a listen sounds really good and you what do you

00:29:49.800 have to recommend for us this week this week I'm recommending how my generalized anxiety disorder

00:29:55.760 affects getting dressed by Kate Emma Burke for fashion journal it's an article about how Kate's

00:30:01.680 anxiety affects the way she dresses herself I love Kate's writing she's our editor and I promise I'm

00:30:07.440 not sucking after her um but Kate can really articulate thoughts that I've had that I thought

00:30:15.260 I'm the only person who feels this way or is anxious about this particular thing and her

00:30:21.620 writing always makes me feel less alone I love her personal essays as a fellow high functioning

00:30:26.760 person with generalized anxiety Kate's essay about always feeling not quite right in her fashion

00:30:32.040 really resonated with me I feel like even though I have a strong sense of like personal style and

00:30:38.080 I know what I like and what I don't sometimes I just don't feel like polished and put together

00:30:44.120 and it like if I'm going somewhere or something and I can't find an outfit that makes me feel good

00:30:49.460 and like reflects how I'm feeling inside it like really stresses me out so it was nice to hear

00:30:56.180 another person's thoughts and feelings on that issue I thought it also may resonate with some

00:31:00.980 of our listeners. We actually asked Kate if she could read out some of her quotes for us and she

00:31:05.440 was generous enough to share so here's Kate's article in her own words. Occasionally the

00:31:11.200 insurmountable challenge of selecting an outfit results in a near panic attack as I perch on the

00:31:15.800 edge of my bed holding back tears surrounded by my failed attempts to clothe myself. So frazzled

00:31:21.620 and stressed does this act make me you would think that I'd have figured out ways to mitigate these

00:31:26.180 feelings, that perhaps I would have parred my wardrobe back to some type of chic, capsule-sized

00:31:31.460 situation. Often, I feel messy and not put together enough. I look at sleeker women around me,

00:31:38.480 women with the aforementioned capsule wardrobes in a penchant for Pleats Please by Eze Miyake,

00:31:44.080 and I aspire to that level of assuredness. To commit to a look in a palette so completely

00:31:49.360 has always been beyond me, and besides, whatever I choose to wear, I end up feeling too much of

00:31:55.700 one thing and not enough of another I just really resonated with that like near panic attack feeling

00:32:04.620 of like you have so many clothes and I'm so privileged to own three pairs of jeans or

00:32:09.640 something um but it's still like a very you're presenting yourself to the world and like

00:32:14.060 especially working in within the fashion space media space um and being around very very stylish

00:32:20.640 people sometimes it can it's just a yucky feeling and I think Kate really eloquently articulates

00:32:27.360 those feelings and I'd also recommend her previous piece called why do we so rarely see big boobs

00:32:33.320 portrayed in fashion that was just so yeah made me actually quite emotional because as someone

00:32:39.440 with big boobs I also struggle with fashion and feeling really frumpy in whatever I wear like I

00:32:44.120 feel like I can't make big boobs chic do you know what I mean so also would recommend that

00:32:50.640 yeah it was a really great read I really enjoyed it I loved how Kate linked like anxiety with

00:32:56.760 fashion like I feel like that when I'm wearing something not necessarily the way it looks but

00:33:01.320 when I feel clothes on me that don't feel right I get so like uncomfortable in my body and I feel

00:33:07.460 so so bad fashion when we talk about how fashion has such a power to transform you and match up

00:33:14.440 with your mood and you know it's a it's like a power suit it's it's a way to express yourself

00:33:19.780 there's so many positives that come with it but I think there's a lot of not necessarily I don't

00:33:23.640 just say negatives but there's a lot of stress that can also accompany that and especially that

00:33:28.000 you feel like you have to have fashion that represents you and if you're not wearing something

00:33:32.300 that doesn't feel right it really can throw you off like it really can it sounds silly because

00:33:37.080 it's oh it's clothes but it's a thing and I think this article really put it nicely yeah and Kate

00:33:42.600 sums it up so well in that I think with a lot of conversations around fashion you can be like it's

00:33:47.200 just clothes like it doesn't matter just it matters how you feel about yourself on the inside

00:33:50.680 but kate's like we have to think about this every single day unless you like around your house naked

00:33:56.400 all day you are gonna wear clothes at some point in the day right so it is an important topic it

00:34:02.400 affects fashion affects all of us i hate when people say like fashion is so frivolous and

00:34:07.020 fashion doesn't matter because it's like the monologue in devil is prada when meryl streep

00:34:11.740 is like that's not just blue it's cerulean blue I love that so much it's so true like even if you

00:34:17.340 think you're not participating in fashion if you're wearing clothes you're participating in

00:34:20.560 fashion make of that what you will but I would definitely recommend that fashion journal article

00:34:27.500 this week thank you for sticking around and listening to the entire episode of culture club

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