Diabolical Lies - September 21, 2025


Charlie Kirk & the End of Debate in America


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Length

7 minutes

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176.37

Word count

1,267

Sentence count

63


Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Caro here.
00:00:10.900 The conversation you're about to listen to
00:00:12.420 was recorded on Wednesday, September 17th.
00:00:15.380 And since then,
00:00:16.180 a number of notable events have taken place.
00:00:18.740 For one, Jimmy Kimmel's late night show
00:00:20.760 has been indefinitely suspended
00:00:22.220 after comments he made about MAGA
00:00:24.540 and the alleged shooter who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:00:27.540 I think we should listen to those comments now.
00:00:30.000 We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
00:00:42.640 In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.
00:00:45.360 On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism.
00:00:49.620 But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
00:00:54.280 My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk.
00:00:56.880 But may I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
00:01:01.180 I think very good.
00:01:02.160 And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks?
00:01:04.800 They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House,
00:01:08.440 which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
00:01:12.940 And it's going to be a beauty.
00:01:15.060 Yes.
00:01:16.240 He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
00:01:21.040 Demolition.
00:01:23.300 Construction.
00:01:23.660 this is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend this is how a four
00:01:29.320 year old mourns a goldfish okay and it didn't just happen once when i heard it i was in the midst of
00:01:35.440 you know building a great for 150 years they've wanted a ballroom at the white house right they
00:01:41.800 don't have a ballroom they have to use tents on the lawn for president chi when he comes over if
00:01:46.780 it rains it's a wipeout and so i was with the architects that would desire it's going to be
00:01:52.000 incredible and they came in they said Charlie Kirk is dead I didn't know what they meant
00:01:59.480 I said we were dead Charlie Kirk was shot and they saw they thought he was dead because it
00:02:06.020 was so horrific you know and I said dead and then we installed the most beautiful chandelier
00:02:14.300 or your sponsors you wouldn't believe.
00:02:20.800 Kimmel is just one of many people in the press
00:02:22.940 who have now lost their jobs in the last week
00:02:25.080 for not showing adequate deference to Kirk's legacy
00:02:27.700 and to the Republican Party at this moment.
00:02:30.560 At the same time, multiple reports suggest
00:02:33.140 that the Trump administration is preparing to engage
00:02:35.380 in increasingly hostile tactics
00:02:37.060 towards the transgender community and LGBTQ community writ large
00:02:41.200 in the days and weeks to come.
00:02:43.260 Fortunately for Katie and I as podcast hosts,
00:02:45.740 but unfortunately for everyone
00:02:47.280 as living, breathing human beings
00:02:48.740 alive on this planet right now,
00:02:50.640 these recent events only serve to further reinforce
00:02:53.200 the conclusions that we come to
00:02:54.660 in the conversation you're about to listen to.
00:02:56.720 But I did want to note,
00:02:57.800 because of the evolving nature of this story,
00:03:00.000 we're going to record a follow-up bonus episode next week
00:03:02.740 to be released the following Sunday.
00:03:04.860 We would love to hear your questions, concerns,
00:03:07.220 and follow-ups after listening to this episode,
00:03:09.300 so please leave them in the comments section
00:03:11.260 of this episode post on Substack,
00:03:13.220 and we will try to address as many of your questions as we can
00:03:16.020 in that next bonus conversation.
00:03:18.240 Thanks, and let's get into it.
00:03:26.680 Why do I have, like, butterflies right now?
00:03:30.460 Okay.
00:03:31.460 Today's episode of Diabolical Lies
00:03:33.600 is brought to you by Rush Limbaugh,
00:03:35.940 Joseph Stalin,
00:03:37.300 Jerry Falwell,
00:03:38.660 Steve Bannon,
00:03:40.020 Mao Zedong,
00:03:40.800 Benjamin Netanyahu, General Douglas MacArthur, Donald Trump, Eric Trump, Bill Clinton, Donald
00:03:46.740 Trump Jr., the Roman Emperor Nero, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, and the literal billions of
00:03:52.760 other men in the world who, like Charlie Kirk, could technically factually be eulogized as a
00:03:57.220 father and husband. Katie, something really significant took place last week, arguably one
00:04:04.700 of the most significant moments in recent American history. Barry Weiss decided she's actually not
00:04:09.740 cool with political violence, which is pretty huge if true. I'm looking forward to seeing what
00:04:15.320 will surely be a cascading ideological shift from our comrades over at the Free Press now that they
00:04:20.140 understand the basics of gun violence in America. That's two free jokes and that is all you're
00:04:25.080 getting today. The rest of this episode is going to be paywalled. There are a whole lot of people
00:04:33.060 who are zooming in and in and in and making arguments about political violence that feel
00:04:37.520 very convenient to me.
00:04:39.360 And so I thought that it would be valuable
00:04:40.740 for us to have a conversation that zooms out.
00:04:42.920 We are living through mass psychosis, I fear.
00:04:45.180 We are looking through this whole
00:04:46.380 like Reagan to now period.
00:04:47.800 You zoom out a little bit
00:04:48.900 and you see just a steady, steady walk towards collapse.
00:04:52.400 I was not expecting this episode to become
00:04:54.460 the internet has a porn problem part two.
00:04:56.640 They are running with the trans thing, of course.
00:04:59.200 They're running with leftism.
00:05:00.400 Pretty sure the only person in government
00:05:02.020 who has called Donald Trump a Nazi
00:05:03.440 is the vice president, J.D. Vance.
00:05:05.300 Trump is a really bad person.
00:05:06.620 How can we totally lose all the momentum and sympathy that we have garnered over the last couple of days?
00:05:12.680 I know. James David, get in here, babe.
00:05:16.820 It is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left.
00:05:25.180 Are these people violent? Are they guilty of encouraging violence?
00:05:28.860 You damn well better believe it.
00:05:30.300 They're like, in honor of Kirk's commitment to free speech,
00:05:34.040 we will be contacting the employer of anyone
00:05:36.580 who says anything mean about him.
00:05:38.300 Beyonce, I find her music to be disgusting.
00:05:41.020 Birth control really screws up female brains, by the way.
00:05:44.180 It increases depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation,
00:05:47.180 and it creates very angry and bitter
00:05:49.220 young ladies and young women.
00:05:50.820 Then that bitterness then manifests
00:05:52.780 into a political party that is the bitter party.
00:05:55.800 I mean, the Democrat party is all about,
00:05:57.460 bring us your bitterness and, you know,
00:05:59.060 we'll give you free stuff the foundation of america were settlers not immigrants
00:06:04.420 there was no one there i swear i love that his argument is like no no no we were colonizers
00:06:12.400 kirk went to cambridge university and he had a conversation with a young woman named tillie
00:06:17.600 middlehurst do you agree that the happiest women in the west are married with kids objectively we
00:06:22.440 know that right the women with kids are not the ones tearing down statues right they're the ones
00:06:25.660 that actually have obligations.
00:06:26.780 Tearing down statues correspond to some kind of smiles per capita data set
00:06:29.920 that I wasn't aware of.
00:06:30.820 I mean, again, it's like, it's a little bit of a...
00:06:32.860 Oh my God, she's smoking it.
00:06:35.000 J.D. Vance saying he installed every person in this government.
00:06:38.320 Now, the right is laundering his brand,
00:06:40.320 but more importantly, they are laundering his significance.
00:06:42.940 Stephen Miller, the deputy White House chief of staff,
00:06:45.420 is the person we should be paying attention to in this moment.
00:06:48.560 Where the left calls people enemies of the republic,
00:06:51.080 calls them fascists, says they're Nazis, says they're evil,
00:06:55.180 says they have to be removed and then prints their addresses they are trying to inspire someone to
00:07:00.840 murder them these are radicalized people there is a domestic terrorism movement in this country
00:07:07.460 see you in the gulag then i guess