For The Wild - April 27, 2020


DeeplyRooted: “And God is the Water” with LYLA JUNE ⧸176

Homebound: Eco-Justice in the Age of Disasters with JACQUI PATTERSON ⧸175 TEJU ADISA-FARRAR on Remapping Our World ⧸177

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12 minutes

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Word count

1,785

Sentence count

53

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Transcript

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00:00:27.040 Welcome to For the Wild. I'm Ayanna Young. You're listening to Deeply Rooted,
00:00:41.680 grounding practices to weather the winds of uncertainty. Today, we receive an offering
00:00:47.060 from our sis, Lila June, who has generously shared so many gifts with our community over
00:00:53.140 the years. Her latest offering is no exception, a humbling testament to the power of creation.
00:01:01.040 Lila June is a Danae and Cheyenne poet, educator, musician, and community organizer. She is from
00:01:08.380 Taos, New Mexico, and currently lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico. She wears many hats, and yet her 0.85
00:01:14.900 core purpose is the same regardless of the method, to help and serve.
00:01:19.980 Greetings, my kin and my people.
00:01:45.340 I'm from the Black Charcoal Streak Division of the Red Running Into Water Clan of the Dine Nation,
00:01:53.820 also incorrectly known as Navajo.
00:01:56.080 My name is Laila June.
00:02:00.600 In that way, I present myself as a Dine woman.
00:02:03.500 I'm really happy to be here with all of you.
00:02:05.720 Really happy to share a poem that I have.
00:02:09.420 And this poem is actually about the gorge next to Taos, New Mexico, my hometown.
00:02:15.340 It's very deep and it's always served as a reminder to me about the depth of time
00:02:19.740 and how even water can carve stone hundreds of feet deep into the earth.
00:02:26.760 And the beauty and the grace of that water
00:02:28.460 and how time is really a reminder of our helplessness within the wave of creation
00:02:39.460 and to humble ourselves before that wave and understand we're a small part of it.
00:02:45.340 And so it also is really helpful, I think, for people like us who are in a constant state of agony over the state of things, not just the state of politics, but the state of the oceans, the state of the planets, the state of the biodiversity, the state of our brothers and sisters who are suffering because of inequity.
00:03:06.680 and those of us who really are living in pain even though we're not the ones always receiving
00:03:13.160 the pain and to really zoom out and understand that you know everything really is going to be
00:03:17.960 okay that we can't control anything there's one thing we can control and that's whether we are
00:03:25.380 acting in love or in fear that's literally the only thing we get to control in this life and
00:03:32.160 that's really hard to remember and really hard to accept i saw this quote recently it said relax
00:03:38.380 nothing is under control you know like we can't we're not the ones who are going to control any
00:03:47.760 outcome of anything and i think the water carving the canyons so deep is really speaking about that
00:03:57.960 is, you know, we live a blink of an eye as a human life when you really consider and contemplate
00:04:05.660 eternity. And that doesn't mean we can't change the world. We can and we will and we are. But you
00:04:12.360 can't really change people. You know, you can influence them, but you can't change them. If
00:04:17.940 they change, it will be because they changed themselves. And maybe we inspired them, we
00:04:23.380 influence them. But it will never be the same way you can change your oil on a car, you know,
00:04:29.840 you're not they're not a machine, they're not at your disposal or your will. And so that's really
00:04:35.720 all we can do in this time is fight in our own way, and do our best to learn how to fight. And
00:04:42.000 then once we understand that, do our best to fight. And even if we fail, or even if we aren't perfect
00:04:48.380 in our fight. The fact that we tried, the fact that we seek a way to fight and that we sought
00:04:54.560 creator, we sought love, we sought healing. That is a victory in and of itself. And truly that's
00:05:03.060 the only victory we get to guarantee to one another, is the victory that you will be able
00:05:08.740 to try if that is your will and if that is your desire. That is something you can absolutely
00:05:15.340 succeed in every single time is trying and understanding that the ancestors aren't really
00:05:21.520 asking us to be perfect in this time of agony in this time of destruction and pure chaos
00:05:27.200 they're just asking us to try and sometimes funnily enough if you give yourself permission
00:05:32.760 to just try so many beautiful things can happen this poem also speaks to me about the creation
00:05:41.560 of forgiveness within ourselves because also when you zoom out into geological time all of our
00:05:48.180 mistakes those stupid things we did in seventh grade or that embarrassing thing we did when we 0.96
00:05:53.480 were five years old or ugly horrible things that happened to us or ugly horrible things that we did 0.99
00:05:59.360 to others and all the pain and the shame and the self-hatred and the disgust that really good people
00:06:06.900 end up picking up as they go along in their journey of being human you know we're usually
00:06:11.680 the ones that feel that shame the most the people who have a good heart because we're just so
00:06:15.960 sick that we would ever be a part of something impure or not good and it's it's interesting
00:06:22.620 because those are not just us but everyone deserves to be free of that pain of the shame
00:06:27.800 and so this poem also speaks about that to me of like if we zoom out in a geological time scale
00:06:34.620 you know really understanding that we are always going to be loved we are always going to be loved
00:06:41.160 by creator and creation and anything we do is not only forgivable but must be forgiven
00:06:48.780 and must be composted somehow some way and released and given back up to the sky because
00:06:57.160 only then can we be free and only then can we give that freedom to others and so I think it's
00:07:04.200 really important to meditate on that too as you listen to this poem and it's called God is the
00:07:11.060 water and it's an extended metaphor about us being the stone and God being the water and what can
00:07:17.820 happen over lifetimes of being human. So here it goes. Thank you for listening.
00:07:34.200 When I close my eyes at night
00:07:39.220 I can feel the rock being cut open by water
00:07:42.620 I hear a grandfather's song
00:07:45.500 And it sounds like sand
00:07:47.640 Walking down the river bottom
00:07:49.900 And in this song they talk about how
00:07:52.680 Even the mighty canyon walls
00:07:55.260 Were carved by meandering streams
00:07:57.580 Beneath the gentle waters there are people
00:08:00.800 Not people like you and I
00:08:03.140 stone people and when I close my eyes at night I am one of them and creator she is the water
00:08:10.140 and she courses over me until I am polished and smooth she teaches me how to be gentle
00:08:16.600 and forgiving she teaches me how to be patient yet persistent and in her language of trickles
00:08:25.420 and bubbles she speaks to me as she says journeys journeys take them but try not to forget who you
00:08:31.900 are along the way. Unfortunately, I have nothing for you but these words, so place them in your
00:08:38.760 pocket, and I will see you again when you arrive at the ocean's throne as one million kernels of
00:08:46.140 sand. Her voice hums in my blood, quiet as a stream in the night, and it is this song about
00:08:53.860 how we are all just so loved. The eagles dip their talons into her soft body and pull from it a fish
00:09:01.240 a flesh meal for their children. They sing this grandfather song with her, and it sounds like
00:09:07.480 feathers cutting into the sky, and it is this song about how even hatred will surrender to wonder.
00:09:16.760 She is breaking my granite heart apart with her water, and even the hardest doubts and sorrows
00:09:25.080 are breaking and giving way to her infinite grace and who knew that sometimes grace can come in the
00:09:32.160 form of a raging river and when it rips away everything that you thought you owned all the
00:09:38.080 pain all the blame all the shame and replaces it with a weightlessness so profound you can't not
00:09:46.620 cry tears of absolute praise and run all around the riverbanks shouting to the cattails and the
00:09:55.740 minnows and the willows about the truth of beauty about the truth of a creator that
00:10:02.180 breathes through the trees a truth of a creator that weaves water from winter and night a truth
00:10:09.380 of a creator that weaves bodies from dust and light, and truth of a creator that carries us
00:10:17.580 down the river of life, over and over again, until we finally understand the meaning of forever,
00:10:25.500 forever. In the language of the stones, there is no word for mistake, only the complete
00:10:31.580 understanding of what it means to be a beloved son or daughter we are the rocks and creator she
00:10:40.600 she is the water
00:10:43.160 so thanks everyone for listening and thank you to for the wild for letting me have some time
00:11:00.760 to connect with everyone
00:11:01.860 and I hope you're all doing well out there
00:11:04.620 and remembering that
00:11:06.460 what we can control
00:11:08.640 are we acting in love or fear
00:11:10.660 and making it a practice
00:11:13.020 to act in fear
00:11:15.160 as little as possible
00:11:16.300 and if we do that
00:11:18.200 then I think we're doing
00:11:19.300 really all that we're supposed to be doing
00:11:22.140 so my prayers are with you
00:11:24.600 and we'll talk to you soon
00:11:30.760 del amor y guerreros de la paz
00:11:33.280 y no vamos a
00:11:35.020 escondernos más
00:11:36.740 You've been listening to Deeply Rooted
00:11:43.100 grounding practices
00:11:44.620 to weather the winds of uncertainty
00:11:46.580 I hope Lila's poem
00:11:48.840 uplifts your capacity to find strength
00:11:51.220 forgiveness
00:11:52.080 and connection in times of adversity
00:11:54.640 You can follow Lila on Instagram
00:11:57.300 using the handle
00:11:58.560 at Lila June
00:11:59.600 and by visiting her website, lilajunejohnston.com.
00:12:04.340 You can hear her music on SoundCloud and YouTube.
00:12:08.540 Learn more and stay connected by visiting forthewild.world slash subscribe.
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00:12:20.400 Our theme music is the song Home by Pura Faye,
00:12:24.160 and you also heard music from Lila herself.
00:12:26.460 The poem, And God is the Water, was written and performed by Lila June.
00:12:32.360 I'd like to thank our podcast production team,
00:12:35.680 Aidan McCray, Andrew Storrs, Carter Lou McElroy,
00:12:39.760 Erica Ekrem, Aaron Wise, Francesca Glaspell,
00:12:43.520 Hannah Wilton, and Melanie Younger.