For The Wild - August 19, 2020


FAITH GEMMILL & PRINCESS LUCAJ on an Arctic Untouched by Oil [ENCORE] ⧸196

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00:00:27.100 Hey for the wild community, Francesca here. You might have seen that this week the U.S. Department of the Interior formally opened up Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas drilling, an unprecedented decision that threatens Gwich'in lifeways and sacred lands while exacerbating both climate and extinction disasters.
00:00:48.400 This week, we're choosing to re-air our critically relevant conversation with Faith Gamal and Princess Lukai, originally released in September of 2016.
00:00:57.380 The fight to protect these life-giving grounds has been going on for decades and will continue to do so, as the first leases to drill for oil and gas could be sold by the end of this year.
00:01:08.520 Protectors of Place are rallying to stop this move, and so we are asking you to remain vigilant for calls to action.
00:01:15.240 Today, we invite you to take the time to immerse yourself in the power of this biological heart, which sustains so many.
00:01:22.560 You can visit our website, forthewild.world, for action points and to learn more.
00:01:27.400 Now, on to the show.
00:01:36.540 The silence is broken by somebody crying, trying to be heard, never a word.
00:01:43.780 Always the attitude, sort out your own, always alone
00:01:48.900 Wishing for something the world is denying
00:01:52.640 Out in the wilderness somebody's crying
00:01:57.580 Somebody wishing for something to happen
00:02:10.400 Wishing to tell, wishing to help
00:02:13.700 Someone was listening, someone who cared
00:02:17.380 Never despaired
00:02:19.180 Someone to lean on and someone to trust
00:02:23.640 Who needs your assistance and finds your disguise
00:02:27.540 Hello, this is Ayanna Young
00:02:37.840 And I welcome you to Unlearn and Rewild, where we explore radical ideas relating to earth renewal.
00:02:46.020 Today we're speaking with Faith Jamil, a Pit River Wintu and Nitsi Gwich'in Athabaskan Earth Defender from Arctic Village, Alaska.
00:02:56.240 She is a campaign organizer for REDOIL, which stands for Resisting Environmental Destruction on Indigenous Lands.
00:03:04.560 Faith has worked on behalf of the Gwich'in Nation for over 10 years
00:03:08.600 as a representative, public spokesperson, and Gwich'in Steering Committee staff
00:03:13.840 to address the potential human health and cultural impacts of proposed oil development
00:03:19.520 in the birthplace and nursery of the porcupine caribou herd
00:03:24.200 in the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
00:03:28.360 faith continues as a public spokesperson press and tribal liaison and human rights advocate
00:03:35.320 faith is a current field representative of the international indian treaty council and has
00:03:42.020 represented the guichin nation at the united nations faith also serves on the advisory board
00:03:48.100 of honor the earth and the national wildlife federation also joining us is princess lukai
00:03:55.500 She is the former executive director of the Gwich'in Steering Committee and Alaska director
00:04:00.440 at the Indigenous Leadership Institute.
00:04:03.460 She was a production manager with Native Voices at the Autry National Center, a member of
00:04:09.040 the board of Dancing with the Spirit, and she's also an actor, director, and activist.
00:04:15.740 Faith, to start us off with a sense of place, I'd love if you could tell us about your ancestral
00:04:22.620 Gwich'in lands and the territories of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
00:04:29.460 So our community, it's called Vashraik'o, and it means deep bank by the creek.
00:04:38.900 And we're located about 200 miles above the Arctic Circle within the Brooks Range in northeast
00:04:48.180 Alaska. And the Brooks Range is a mountain
00:04:52.360 range that's very beautiful and it separates
00:04:55.560 the inland community from coastal
00:05:00.180 community of Kaktovik. But the
00:05:04.400 Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is 19 million acres
00:05:08.020 of wholly intact ecosystem
00:05:12.020 within northeast Alaska
00:05:16.060 And the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is right at the very top, adjacent to the Beaufort Sea, and that is the biological heart of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
00:05:31.900 the 1.5 million acres is also at threat by all of the oil companies every major oil company has a
00:05:43.520 stake and interest in it but that place is the birthplace and nursery of the porcupine caribou
00:05:52.880 herd which to the which in people that's a sacred place in our language we say
00:06:00.300 it means the sacred place where life begins and it's not only a birthplace for the caribou but
00:06:09.940 it's also one of the most important on-land denning habitat for polar bears and there's 156
00:06:20.160 species of migratory birds that fly from all around the world to nest there it's one of the
00:06:28.400 most vital ecosystems that we have in the united states and princess if there's anything you'd like
00:06:36.460 to add to that yeah i just say that you know i think the refuge is absolutely symbolic of what
00:06:45.640 is happening in the world because it really is the commons and you have a for years this really
00:06:55.300 capitalist Western mentality of industry and politicians looking at the refuge and saying,
00:07:04.540 it's barren. There's nothing there. It's not going to hurt anybody if we go up there and
00:07:10.460 develop and drill for oil in the last remaining area of the North Slope that's not open to
00:07:17.300 development. In that regards, we're talking about the commons. In a world that's trying to privatize
00:07:24.120 land and water and patent life, I think that we're talking about two different, very different
00:07:32.360 worldviews, one which commodifies life and another which realizes that we need these ecosystems in
00:07:41.880 order to survive. And I would just add, too, that it's about human cultural diversity. For us as
00:07:50.060 Gwich'in, this is a human rights issue. For too long, indigenous people have been looked at as
00:07:58.640 it's okay if we're collateral damage in extractive resource industry. We just have to shift that
00:08:05.340 paradigm and we have to change that in the world if it's not too late. Exactly.
00:08:11.640 And would you mind telling us the Gwich'in creation story so that we might begin to
00:08:18.240 understand the sacred alliance between your people and the land and that this is much more
00:08:24.680 than just quote an environmental battle but it is deeply rooted in ancestry and spirituality
00:08:31.240 our creation story tells of a time when animals had characteristics like human beings
00:08:43.880 and there was just animals at the time of creation the creator decided to create human beings
00:08:54.400 and at that time our story says that when human beings when we separated from the caribou
00:09:04.980 we made an agreement and that agreement says that the caribou would always retain a part of
00:09:14.500 the Gwich'in heart and the Gwich'in would always retain a part of the caribou heart
00:09:20.540 from that time on. So in a spiritual sense, in a cultural sense, when there's a threat 0.99
00:09:31.360 to the caribou it affects the guichin and spiritually we're so connected to the caribou
00:09:42.920 when we talk about it we say it's just like the relationship that the plains tribes had with
00:09:51.000 buffalo that's the same type of relationship the guichin have with the caribou it's a very very
00:09:58.200 powerful bond. We believe if anything happens to the caribou, it happens to the Gwich'in 0.75
00:10:05.340 and vice versa. We have old songs, old dances that tell of our relationship with the caribou. 0.99
00:10:16.040 We still use all the bones to create tools that we need. We still make clothing from the hides
00:10:26.520 and we still maintain that relationship that we've always had when the caribou's in our
00:10:35.860 territories we honor the caribou with our hunt and it's a very sacred time it's a special time
00:10:46.520 and it's one of the most important times for Gwich'in because it's at that time that
00:10:52.660 life lessons are taught to our young people social skills cultural skills spiritual skills
00:11:02.480 all these ancestral teachings are passed on when we're out there on the land because we move out
00:11:09.480 on the land when the caribou migrates through and we stay on the land until we're done harvesting
00:11:15.420 And then that feeds us all through the winter, which is very important nowadays. And we still live like that.
00:11:25.860 i've heard you both speak about how oil drilling would be the end of the guachin and thus it is a
00:11:36.220 human rights issue so i guess what i'm wondering is when you're talking about day-to-day lives and
00:11:44.960 how connected they are with the land and a closed loop of subsistence guided by your traditional
00:11:50.600 ecological knowledge how would this be destroyed by oil exploration well the place that is a threat
00:12:00.040 right now like i said earlier it is the biological heart of the refuge system that's the place where
00:12:09.120 the caribou give birth to their young and it's the only safe place that this herd the porcupine
00:12:19.320 caribou herd will go to give birth to their young they do not birth their young anywhere else
00:12:27.760 so if the oil rigs are allowed to come in it will displace them from their nursery basically
00:12:39.140 and they'll be forced to have their young in another area which probably is not going to
00:12:49.320 be beneficial with the right nutrients for the young, but also would not be safe from predators.
00:12:59.180 And that's a very real issue here in Alaska.
00:13:03.960 That place is perfect for the caribou to use as their birthing grounds
00:13:08.980 because the high winds keep mosquitoes away at that time when they're dropping their young.
00:13:14.320 and it's a safe area from predators because it's a coastal plain they can see predators from far
00:13:23.340 and also the grass that grows there that's the exact nutrients for newborn calves to get enough
00:13:33.960 energy because this herd is one of the furthest migrating herds of North America
00:13:39.640 it migrates through canada and alaska northwest canada northeast alaska we have 15 which in
00:13:49.680 communities that are strategically located on the migratory route of the porcupine caribou herd
00:13:57.140 especially our northern communities and this herd's habitat is huge but that coastal plain
00:14:08.920 is the only place that the caribou will go to drop their young in the year 2000 when Clinton
00:14:18.240 was leaving office let me just tell a story about how when the caribou is forced to drop their young
00:14:28.080 somewhere else what happens so in the year 2000 we've been seeing impacts from climate change for
00:14:35.680 years here in Alaska and that year there was really heavy snows and then it was a warm spring
00:14:47.040 so that year the caribou were migrating through their wintering grounds in Canada
00:14:52.800 heading north to cross the border and go to the coastal plain here in Alaska to give birth to
00:15:00.740 they're young because of the heavy snows their migration north was slowed down and by the time
00:15:10.340 they reached the porcupine river the ice because it was so warm the ice had broke early that year
00:15:18.440 and so the females tried to wait out the ice till it all flowed and they stayed on the south side
00:15:30.620 of the river trying to wait it out by the time that the ice had gone by and flowed by
00:15:37.860 it was too late they waited too long and they all dropped their young on the south side of the river
00:15:46.840 so even though they were forced to drop their young by natural elements they still have this
00:15:56.960 instinct to go to their calving grounds because it's a safe place for their young so the mothers
00:16:05.060 started swimming across the river and trying to get their young to swim with them
00:16:12.600 but because the young were just newborns and that heavy flow of water when ice during breakup it was
00:16:25.040 too volatile most of the calves couldn't make the swim across the river and most drowned
00:16:34.460 that year we lost 15 percent of the herd and 43,000 calves drowned just because of natural
00:16:49.160 phenomena that's why that place is so important so if one event like that we could lose so much
00:16:59.200 of the herd just imagine what would happen if year after year they're being forced to drop
00:17:07.680 their young somewhere else it would wipe out the herd and to just tie that into which in in our
00:17:15.580 food security it's very very expensive to live in our rural villages and people are truly dependent
00:17:24.780 upon the herd for their sustenance and you know whenever I go back up there the first things
00:17:31.880 people start talking about is when are the caribou coming through and people start talking about if
00:17:37.920 their neighbors have enough meat in their refrigerator and when they start coming through
00:17:44.000 and they know they're coming there's such an excitement in the air and people start going
00:17:48.460 out hunting and you know that makes up the bulk of people's diet when those numbers go down I mean
00:17:55.760 right now the herd is healthy I think it's about 200,000 but you know when those numbers go down
00:18:01.040 it's troublesome. And that year when that happened our people actually we had to go through
00:18:11.100 ceremonies because it was very very hard a lot of our elders over in old crow canada where that
00:18:19.200 happened was close to their community at the time and so they witnessed it and it was very hard on
00:18:26.960 that community we had to mourn this loss this great loss we're so connected to our environment
00:18:34.180 it really impacts our people we also have this word which actually really captures an entire
00:18:43.660 concept it's and it's basically this like all-encompassing love that we have not only for
00:18:54.020 each other as human beings but it signifies that connection that we have to the land and to the
00:19:01.520 animals and it's a reciprocal respect we give to one another and all life around us. And when
00:19:10.940 you're not dependent on the land and you don't know where your food comes from, it's easy to
00:19:16.440 become egotistical and to fall under this illusion that we're not connected, that we're somehow
00:19:22.500 separate from our environment and the land, the soil, the water. And so those people that are
00:19:31.160 still really connected to the land, realize that we have to honor that relationship.
00:19:38.180 And Princess, I've heard you speak about the old stories of your people being able to speak
00:19:44.760 the same language as animals and being connected to the land in that way. And I'm wondering,
00:19:51.360 because I know both of you speak about what the children will inherit. Do you believe that
00:19:57.340 this reconnection to speaking with the animals and having that deep accord will be able to
00:20:04.760 be strengthened again? I guess just for me, I guess to answer that would be to say,
00:20:10.500 we have to live with that reverence and honor for the animals and they give their lives to us
00:20:19.060 so that we can live. So I think on a personal note, it's definitely an extra effort. And part
00:20:25.100 of that extra effort is that I don't think that we live very balanced lives. And I can just speak
00:20:32.120 to my own experience, which is spending a lot of time in front of a computer screen and how
00:20:40.000 different that is from the lives that, you know, Faith and I, our grandparents lived, or even our
00:20:46.080 parents lived in when they were growing up, or even us for that matter. Yeah, we have stories
00:20:54.240 Also, when I was growing up in Arctic Village, we didn't even have electricity for years.
00:21:05.080 We didn't have television.
00:21:07.300 So I was lucky in a way.
00:21:10.000 I did get to live that life.
00:21:14.000 We were always constantly on the land.
00:21:18.300 Like we would go to the Chun-Li in the fall time.
00:21:22.060 And that's when the caribou migrates back from their calving grounds.
00:21:26.700 And that's one of our main hunting times.
00:21:30.820 And we would stay out there for like a month or longer, however long it took.
00:21:38.080 And that's where a lot of the teachings are passed on to our children.
00:21:41.720 That reciprocal relationship we have with everything in our natural environment.
00:21:48.200 how to have proper respect and give proper respect for what you take from the environment
00:21:56.920 whether it's when you're blueberry picking or when you're taking an animal you have to give
00:22:04.760 proper thanks and respect for everything that you're taking and we also believe that the animals
00:22:14.700 give themselves to us and so it's a very very powerful relationship and it's a very powerful
00:22:23.420 time when you're out on the land it's like all of your senses reawaken you become alive again
00:22:30.860 and to me it's one of the most i cherish that time and we do that when not just with caribou
00:22:42.400 but we have hunting seasons for all the animals so when I was young growing up in the village
00:22:51.400 that was how we lived primarily season to season for various game so springtime the ducks and geese
00:23:02.380 are coming back everybody's hunting then summertime is fishing season for a lot of
00:23:09.720 our communities. Fall time is moose, caribou, sheep. So that's the type of relationship we
00:23:18.400 have. That's how we live up here, a subsistence way of life.
00:23:39.720 of the world, daughters of starlight, daughters of mirth, sisters of sunlight, sisters of
00:23:51.220 earth, brothers of nature, brothers of old, brothers of leisure, and the story untold.
00:24:09.720 I had a dream
00:24:12.960 A mile of course
00:24:15.840 They laid to rest
00:24:18.760 With a gun and a sword
00:24:21.600 Buried the hatchet 0.79
00:24:24.720 Buried the snake
00:24:27.340 Bowed to each other
00:24:30.660 Peace to make
00:24:37.020 The earth's supply
00:24:38.720 That nature feeds
00:24:41.720 But we turn and quake
00:24:44.560 For artificial needs
00:24:47.760 Come down to earth
00:24:50.240 And stay a while
00:24:53.120 The sun is shining
00:24:56.040 Just sit there and smile
00:24:58.800 I'm a brown-skinned man
00:25:08.640 That's what I am
00:25:11.680 I've got a guitar and a drum
00:25:14.540 That's where I come from
00:25:17.820 Spirit of the sun
00:25:20.340 Spirit of the sea
00:25:23.400 Worthy of a shadow
00:25:26.120 I'm shining down on
00:25:28.640 Son of the sun
00:25:41.220 Son of the earth
00:25:44.100 Soul of life
00:25:47.020 Children of the world
00:25:50.100 Brothers of nature
00:25:52.820 Brothers of old
00:25:55.640 Brothers of legends and the story untold
00:26:02.020 Daughters of starlight, daughters of birth
00:26:08.640 Sisters of sunlight, sisters of birth
00:26:14.440 I had a dream a mile ago
00:26:19.940 It's so important that our subsistence lands remain intact so that we're able to continue this ancestral way of life and pass it on to our children.
00:26:36.660 And right now, Alaska's been ground zero for U.S. energy policy.
00:26:45.320 And besides just the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, there's other indigenous territories throughout the state that are subsistence use lands that are also at threat from oil and gas, mining, coal development, etc.
00:27:03.040 and what we are trying to do is raise the consciousness of the public not only here
00:27:13.900 at the local level in Alaska but at the national level and the international level
00:27:20.080 that basically the earth cannot sustain any more exploitation that it's time we as humanity
00:27:31.100 realize we have taken too much. Our consumption is too high. There needs to be a transition
00:27:39.540 to clean, sustainable energy that would uphold and promote Indigenous people's way of life
00:27:50.140 and also allow for our children to continue.
00:27:58.640 That's what this issue is about for us
00:28:01.780 because in 1988, when our elders and our people
00:28:07.440 found out that the oil companies were trying to gain access
00:28:10.760 to the Arctic Refuge,
00:28:13.040 they held a Gwich'in gathering in Arctic Village,
00:28:17.080 And it was the first Gwich'in gathering that was held in over 100 years.
00:28:22.720 When the U.S. and Canada separated and they put that border in, they separated the Gwich'in nation. 0.56
00:28:32.600 We got separated by this invisible line. 0.88
00:28:37.020 So we have half of the Gwich'in nation in Canada and half in Alaska.
00:28:42.540 and we all subsist on this one same caribou herd which doesn't see the border
00:28:50.580 so we held the Gwich'in gathering in arctic village in 1988 and our elders well our young
00:29:00.580 leaders back then they asked the eldest Gwich'in woman her name was Myra Kiyikovic
00:29:05.960 they went to her and they asked her long ago when there was a threat to the Gwich'in
00:29:12.540 how did we address it and she said that they would hold a traditional gathering
00:29:20.100 and so we did that we called the gathering an arctic village and it was called Gwich'in Ninsah
00:29:27.460 and that's the gathering of our people every one of our communities in Canada and Alaska
00:29:35.480 came together and we discussed this issue and they did it in a very traditional way
00:29:43.720 and at the end of that meeting it was unanimously decided that we're not going to allow the oil
00:29:52.280 companies to drill in the arctic refuge because it was such a threat to our nation 0.98
00:29:58.660 and at that time they created a political body to be the voice for the Gwich'in people
00:30:07.580 and that was the Gwich'in steering committee and once the members of the steering committee were
00:30:16.000 chosen they were taken to the front of the people and they were given directives by the elders and
00:30:24.960 by the leaders and there was two main things that they told them one was go out there tell our story
00:30:34.780 do it in a good way and we're going to be successful that was one part of it but the
00:30:42.940 other part of it was when we're going out there talking about this issue and telling our story
00:30:50.720 we need to let them know that we're not trying to protect that area for ourselves
00:30:58.280 we are standing and protecting the arctic refuge for all humanity and when i think about that
00:31:08.000 directive i think about global warming and this time that we're in we see the changes so rapid
00:31:16.580 we are like in climate chaos and the arctic refuge is one of the last places it is the actual last
00:31:27.360 piece of land of alaska's north slope that's still protected everything else 95 percent of
00:31:35.940 alaska's north slope is already open to oil and gas development and so standing for that area
00:31:44.900 and when our people say we're doing it for all humanity they were talking about and prophesying
00:31:51.620 global warming but also they were talking about this time of transition because we have a story
00:32:01.100 and a prophecy about this time and in our prophecy it says that
00:32:07.300 we have to protect that area and if that area is ever open to development
00:32:15.980 it's the beginning of the end and so that's why we stand up for that area and that's why this 0.97
00:32:24.740 issue is so critical to the Gwich'in people but to humanity itself you know what does it say to 0.95
00:32:33.820 our future generations if we allow the last 5% of the North Slope of Alaska to be developed. 0.98
00:32:42.880 So this issue is very, very, very critical. Everyone has a say what happens to it, not just
00:32:50.940 the Gwich'in. It's one of the most controversial issues in Congress. They've been debating it for
00:32:58.380 the past 30 years and it will take an act of congress to open it to development or to protect
00:33:06.880 it permanently and so that's why we organized ourselves to try to educate as much americans
00:33:15.420 as possible because every american has a say what happens well i can't thank you enough for
00:33:25.200 organizing and fighting for this and protecting for all of us in the United States and beyond
00:33:33.680 on a global level for climate change, for the biodiversity. And I'm wondering when you were
00:33:40.580 talking about this act of Congress, I know that back in January 2015, I believe, Obama recommended
00:33:46.840 protection for over 12 million acres, including the coastal plain. But just last month, Obama
00:33:53.920 announced a joint US and Canada agreement to combat climate change and prioritize Arctic
00:33:59.780 conservation for the benefit of indigenous peoples, but then days later proposed new
00:34:05.320 offshore leases in the Arctic. So what do you make of this political mind game? And
00:34:10.680 what is the true prospect for protection? I think the politics of what's happening right now,
00:34:17.600 and that was fantastic that the Obama administration came out with this official
00:34:23.060 recommendation for wilderness, which changed the last official recommendation that was for oil and
00:34:29.920 gas development on the coastal plain. And that was years, I believe, three plus years that went into
00:34:36.460 public commentary on the comprehensive conservation plan for management of the refuge. And
00:34:44.040 overwhelmingly, people really came out and said, we want to see further protections for the coastal
00:34:51.300 Plain. So then from there, Obama makes that official recommendation to Congress to designate
00:34:58.260 wilderness for the coastal plain. And then the job is to get it through Congress, which is the
00:35:05.340 same thing that the people have been trying to do for over 30 years is get a wilderness designation
00:35:10.780 for the coastal plain. It just hasn't happened. So I think there's a lot of doublespeak. And we
00:35:18.460 saw from Paris that there's a lot of firm talk to wanting to act on climate change, but there's not
00:35:28.360 in my eyes enough political will to get us there. And I'm definitely behind the keep it in the
00:35:36.980 ground campaign. And I think that politicians need to understand that we just simply cannot
00:35:43.140 afford to do business as usual. So until we start really putting a different system in place that
00:35:49.900 doesn't look at corporations as citizens, that understands that people need to come first and
00:35:56.080 that we need to have an economy that is reflective of our morals and ethics around really being
00:36:04.660 sustainable and aware of the fact that we are dependent upon these critical ecosystems,
00:36:09.920 Until that transformation happens, we're not going to get to where we need to be. But in terms of permanent protection, on the upside, we have more co-sponsored than ever before for a wilderness designation. And it is bipartisan. And then the only other option would be for President Obama to use his executive authority and do a monument designation for the coastal plain.
00:36:35.020 and if we're really looking at climate change and we're looking at the fact that our species is not
00:36:41.480 gonna be able to exist on this planet if it warms up more than you know 1.5 degrees celsius and we
00:36:46.880 are not doing what we need to do to get there yet keeping fossil fuels in the ground is the only way
00:36:54.280 to do it and we're just not seeing I don't think the political will to get us there because it
00:37:02.140 needed to happen yesterday and the communities that depend on the oceans that have been put in
00:37:12.100 the five-year plan of the federal government their outer continental shell five-year plan
00:37:18.800 there's three places here in Alaska that are at threat under that plan and that's one in the
00:37:26.760 Beaufort Sea one in the Chukchi Sea and one in Cook Inlet and all these places there's indigenous
00:37:35.500 communities that rely on the marine ecosystem to provide all their essential subsistence needs 0.59
00:37:43.240 and so it's the same fight that the Gwich'in are facing they are going to face as they stand up
00:37:52.280 and oppose fossil fuel development in their ecosystem that provides for their food security.
00:38:01.880 And the other thing is the Beaufort Sea is directly adjacent to the coastal plain of the Arctic Refuge.
00:38:10.720 I've always thought that drilling offshore is a direct threat to the Arctic Refuge as well
00:38:20.100 if there's going to be offshore drilling in the Beaufort Sea
00:38:24.800 because once they access the resource offshore in the Beaufort Sea,
00:38:30.920 they're going to have to bring it to market,
00:38:34.940 and they're going to want to access land
00:38:40.480 and try to connect to the Trans-Alaska Pipeline,
00:38:45.960 and it would just be a backdoor approach in opening up the arctic national wildlife refuge
00:38:54.060 and the thing about the arctic refuge is it's not really about the oil there
00:38:59.000 because they estimate that at current consumption rates of the united states it's
00:39:06.840 basically whole six months worth of oil that we would not even be able to bring to market for
00:39:15.060 10 years so the arctic national wildlife refuge does not solve our energy needs now as they'd
00:39:23.300 like to tout it but the primary push for the refuge is actually for precedent setting of access to
00:39:33.480 these places that are protected by such stringent environmental laws if they can access the arctic
00:39:42.420 refuge they can access any other public lands anywhere exactly and they've admitted that
00:39:50.560 themselves that it's about the precedent but as for offshore development like we stand
00:39:58.500 and oppose offshore development here in Alaska because of climate change
00:40:04.720 and because there should not be any more fossil fuel development here in the state.
00:40:13.880 We have enough fields operating currently that are already online
00:40:19.220 that would take us through a transition period.
00:40:23.460 If we start to transition now, but that's where our work comes in
00:40:29.360 and that's where the public comes in.
00:40:31.440 I believe that there is an awakening happening.
00:40:37.080 I believe that the public senses what we're speaking about.
00:40:44.040 And I believe that people are starting to shift the way they see how we use energy, what we're taking from the earth.
00:40:55.080 And the march in New York on climate.
00:41:00.080 hundreds of thousands of people
00:41:03.140 took to the streets
00:41:04.380 maybe that's what it's going to take
00:41:08.240 in every city 0.66
00:41:11.180 we need mass mobilization
00:41:14.560 mass outcry
00:41:16.680 and we just need to hold the line
00:41:21.440 on places like the Arctic Refuge
00:41:23.680 and offshore Alaska
00:41:25.320 while this transition and awakening
00:41:29.360 is happening i just wanted to add to you know to the offshore as well as i think it was
00:41:36.020 shell it was just so to me clear they basically proved it themselves that the conditions of our
00:41:45.640 oceans up here are just not meant for that sort of development they couldn't even get the drilling
00:41:51.580 rigs in place i mean you remember that kaluk you know came ashore i believe twice and there's no 0.97
00:41:57.980 way for them to clean up an oil spill in the arctic ocean i mean we proved that i mean that
00:42:04.120 happened with with exxon right or in the gulf it's like weird are we just going to continuously
00:42:08.860 not learn from our mistakes these grave mistakes that affect the entire food chain
00:42:16.420 yeah shell pulled out in october they pulled out and basically they still have their
00:42:27.940 leases but it's not feasible for them to drill and so that was the reasoning they gave but
00:42:38.380 just as princess said there really is no safe way to drill offshore in alaska if you've seen
00:42:47.060 deadliest catch you see how volatile the seas are up here and imagine broken ice conditions
00:42:56.460 Imagine half of the time being in darkness and frigid, frigid temperatures, volatile seas.
00:43:10.020 There's just no way to do any offshore drilling in Alaska on the North Slope safely in the Arctic Ocean.
00:43:19.940 It just cannot be done.
00:43:21.480 And I think that company met their match.
00:43:26.460 They just could not do it. 0.99
00:43:30.280 And the Inupiat people have been saying this. 1.00
00:43:35.200 Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, 1.00
00:43:41.420 the round pegs and the square holes. 0.98
00:43:44.180 The ones who see things differently, they're not fond of rules.
00:43:49.260 They have no respect for the status quo.
00:43:52.080 You can quote them, disagree with them, disbelieve them.
00:43:56.460 glorify or glorify
00:43:58.460 them. But the only thing you
00:44:00.460 can't do is ignore them.
00:44:02.640 Because they change things.
00:44:05.220 They invent.
00:44:06.460 They imagine. They heal.
00:44:08.500 They explore. They create. They
00:44:10.280 inspire. They push the human race forward.
00:44:13.240 Maybe they have to be crazy. 0.99
00:44:15.260 Because the ones who are 1.00
00:44:16.360 crazy enough to think that they 0.95
00:44:18.300 change the world
00:44:19.360 are the ones who do.
00:44:26.460 I am the one I know for you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:44:56.460 equations left handed pen stroke words float out to all relations protect the
00:45:01.620 medicine from infiltration mother earth's emancipation from annihilation the
00:45:06.600 overseeing star nations don't like Obama's nations or abominations fixated
00:45:11.760 on corruption and perpetration of everything that's sacred false promises
00:45:16.260 the lies in disguise him said he was to bring the troops of inaugurated rockets
00:45:20.620 fly the deadliest airstripe within two weeks of office peltier sighs so we
00:45:25.780 reflect and write, artifice delivers truth, prophecy ignites, spirit activated delights,
00:45:31.940 sustainable evolution, the most revolutionary act, is the betterment of our lives, maintain
00:45:38.200 the balance, prayer stronger than assassins, who's asking, basking in the luxury of contaminants,
00:45:44.020 while we're fasting, sometimes crying, sometimes laughing, self-controlling actions, neutralizing
00:45:49.900 chemtrail reactions, chorilla flows to cleanse and break the hold of them vaticans, radiated
00:45:55.560 passions that alone enough is enough to get it cracking not man-made demise just the warriors
00:46:01.820 strapping rapping staying focused not making it happen
00:46:25.560 so i was down in louisiana when the deep water horizon spill right after it happened i met with
00:46:46.660 indigenous communities there it was amazing the parallels the similarities between alaska
00:46:56.400 and louisiana the coastal communities these indigenous communities that we were meeting with
00:47:05.280 the homa the chitimacha the i can't even remember the tribal names but we met with most of the
00:47:13.600 indigenous communities there and we happened to be in one of the communities when the
00:47:18.760 oil started hitting their shrimping grounds and we were actually in a community meeting
00:47:26.960 and one of the community members came into the meeting and said it's hitting
00:47:32.280 our shrimping grounds right now it's hitting the marshes so we all went out on shrimping boats
00:47:39.760 to go to where the oil was hitting and it was just devastating you could see the oil slick
00:47:48.340 on the marshes and i could see the pain in those people's faces because their way of life was so
00:47:58.060 interdependent on the waters there they've been devastated by global warming coastal erosion
00:48:08.100 just like Alaska we have communities that are literally caving off into the ocean
00:48:15.280 and three of them need to be relocated immediately no one wants to pay the oil
00:48:23.280 companies should be responsible and held accountable but they're not and so these
00:48:29.740 communities are facing forced relocation because of global warming just like that community I was
00:48:37.620 actually in el de jones charles when they were talking about relocation and now they have
00:48:45.620 been relocated this year both states are oil producing states where
00:48:53.760 where the energy sacrifice zones of the united states and the rights of the people
00:49:04.020 and both states are basically ignored so that these large multinational companies can come in
00:49:14.020 and exploit the resources for America's energy consumption needs. And then both states have
00:49:23.960 been devastated by the largest offshore oil spills in history. And at that time, I remember
00:49:33.080 thinking, okay, this is a wake-up call. America is going to wake up. They're going to have to wake
00:49:39.640 up because this ecosystem is basically dying, and it's the food basket of America.
00:49:50.740 So when there was a moratorium put on on offshore development right immediately following that up
00:49:58.140 here in Alaska. That moratorium was lifted six months later and it was back to business as usual
00:50:04.400 and I was just shocked. I almost lost hope but my hope has been restored since then
00:50:11.920 and I believe that if we work hard doing what we're doing, holding the line
00:50:19.400 with these last places, raising consciousness,
00:50:23.020 we're going to wake people up.
00:50:27.260 We actually don't have a choice.
00:50:30.300 When we were all together in Paris for COP21,
00:50:34.300 a big theme being voiced by Indigenous activists
00:50:38.060 was CO2 colonialism.
00:50:41.400 And I think it's important to explore
00:50:44.200 how colonialism is at work in the resource grabs going on
00:50:49.100 in Alaska, beginning with, and probably even before that, but with the Alaska Native Claim
00:50:55.200 Settlement Act in 1971. And I'm wondering if you could explain how this act has divided tribes and
00:51:03.560 opened up those lands to destructive industries and continues to create havoc.
00:51:09.780 here in Alaska in 1968 Prudhoe Bay was discovered and in order to bring the resources to market
00:51:19.700 they needed to settle land claims and so they put forward the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act
00:51:28.620 and it was approved unilaterally in 1971 most Alaska Natives did not even have a vote or a voice
00:51:38.040 But when it happened, what it basically did was set up for-profit Native corporations.
00:51:47.920 There's 13 for-profit Native corporations divided by regions in the state of Alaska.
00:51:55.300 And these for-profit corporations hold title to the subsurface, right?
00:52:01.340 And then we also have village corporations, which were created in every native village in the state. So there's over 200 native village corporations. They have surface rights.
00:52:19.400 At the time, there were governments, and we had our own traditional governments in place, our tribes, tribal governments.
00:52:31.980 the tribal governments were ignored basically and the land transferred to these new entities
00:52:40.880 that were created under the act because they wanted to do something different here in Alaska
00:52:48.520 than the lower 48 and so these corporations these newly created native corporations
00:52:57.860 there was a clause that if they didn't prosper and if they went under they could be bought out
00:53:06.020 any corporation could buy them out and if that happened that also jeopardized land
00:53:14.580 and land would be moved out of native hands totally and i believe that was the intent
00:53:23.680 except Alaska Natives mobilized and realized the threats
00:53:31.120 that we could lose the land more.
00:53:33.980 So they had to be prosperous as corporations. 1.00
00:53:41.720 So these Native people who lived in tiny communities, 1.00
00:53:47.660 isolated communities throughout the state, 1.00
00:53:50.700 very little western education but the few that did have that western education were the ones
00:53:59.140 that had to learn how to become corporate citizens basically and what they did is they
00:54:07.600 partnered up with the companies depending on what resource was within their territory so
00:54:16.480 like on the north slope you have arctic slope regional corporation that's a multi-billion
00:54:22.740 dollar corporation now and they partnered with the oil companies and that's the resource they
00:54:34.200 tapped to get their billions some other regions it was mining companies and other regions it was
00:54:42.020 the timber industry but basically the only assets they held was the land so to prosper
00:54:52.500 they had to exploit their assets that's what they did so the lands became corporate assets and
00:55:01.000 that's how they were accessed and when I talk about angst I like to say angst in a nutshell
00:55:07.620 was basically a theft of our ancestral territories. 0.97
00:55:10.920 It was an act to assimilate Alaska Natives 0.97
00:55:14.620 and an act to divide and conquer Alaska Natives. 0.93
00:55:21.300 And then the final blow would have been termination of tribes here in Alaska. 0.80
00:55:27.240 That was their intent in a nutshell.
00:55:31.440 But so far we've been able to fight off termination
00:55:35.380 because something that constantly comes up here in Alaska
00:55:40.000 is legislation to basically legislate away tribes.
00:55:46.660 And there are 227 tribes in Alaska,
00:55:50.280 and we all still maintain our own governing structures
00:55:55.460 and our inherent sovereign authority.
00:55:59.560 and we're standing up and trying to fight for recognition of our rights
00:56:05.900 and when we do, Congress turns around and says ANCSA basically wiped out all our rights
00:56:13.760 because there was also a clause within ANCSA that said
00:56:17.880 we gave up all Aboriginal rights to the land
00:56:21.780 and so it set up also this political struggle for Alaska Natives
00:56:28.700 and the fight for our recognition of our sovereign rights
00:56:37.420 and our own authority.
00:56:40.640 But ANCSA, to me, was one of the worst acts created by Congress.
00:56:46.540 And now the same type of legislation is being promoted
00:56:52.040 in other areas of the world where there's resources.
00:56:55.040 I was down in the Amazon, and the Amazonian leaders there said they had been approached and asked whether they wanted to do land claims similar to Alaska. 1.00
00:57:09.180 And we cautioned them, don't make that mistake, don't let it happen, because we're still dealing with angsa here.
00:57:17.940 and now the legacy of angsa is we have polluted lands we have fracture we have
00:57:26.140 divisions because there's tribes that want to protect certain areas and then there's
00:57:31.600 corporations that want to exploit that same area and so that creates division
00:57:40.040 so we told them the story in the amazon of what happened to alaska natives and
00:57:47.780 told them don't allow it to happen to them
00:57:50.400 but that's what the United States is promoting
00:57:53.860 in other areas of the world
00:57:55.820 under US aid
00:57:57.600 and so
00:57:59.860 I really caution people about land claims
00:58:03.680 because it's one of the primary reasons
00:58:06.700 we're in the situation we're in in Alaska
00:58:08.960 where so much lands are currently at threat
00:58:12.740 for oil, gas, coal, mining, etc
00:58:16.600 Yes, it's so important to stand in solidarity and keep the fight going.
00:58:27.540 And I'm just so grateful that both of you have given your lives to spreading these words of knowledge and action and hope.
00:58:39.780 been thinking about alaska and especially in the arctic wildlife refuge that it is one of the most
00:58:46.840 fragile and the most intact ecosystems in the world and we cannot allow harm to come to it and
00:58:55.340 for the listeners that are hearing this what and how can people globally stand in solidarity with
00:59:04.140 you and support the arctic wildlife refuge and the other lands that you're protecting
00:59:08.280 so there are a number of petitions circulating it's really important i think that if you
00:59:16.220 live in alaska that you contact your local representatives and also contact the president
00:59:24.160 there's actually if you go and if you use the hashtag we are the arctic you should be easily
00:59:30.160 on social media be able to find some petitions to sign online petitions but also because it is
00:59:37.680 federal land, it's a national issue, being able to contact your local senators or representatives
00:59:44.520 to support the wilderness bill is really important. And internationally, I think you can still sign
00:59:53.640 the petition or send something to President Obama directly saying that this place needs
00:59:59.900 to be permanently protected. Yeah, I think pressure on the administration is really important to
01:00:06.780 the administration needs to hear directly from Americans
01:00:11.020 that the Arctic Refuge should be protected permanently.
01:00:17.700 And I think people can stand in solidarity with Alaska
01:00:21.200 by raising the profile of these issues.
01:00:24.860 Global warming, transitioning to clean energy,
01:00:29.160 that it's time for that shift to happen,
01:00:31.380 not just for us here in Alaska, but for everyone.
01:00:33.820 and
01:00:35.640 learning about these issues
01:00:39.000 learning about what's happening
01:00:41.400 and standing up for their own territories
01:00:44.620 and not allowing further
01:00:48.420 destruction to continue
01:00:51.840 because all our children look at us
01:00:55.620 they're all looking at us
01:00:57.540 what are we leaving them
01:00:59.540 that's what we all need to start thinking about
01:01:04.060 especially decision-makers.
01:01:06.840 Stand up, speak up, raise your voice.
01:01:09.780 We only have one Earth.
01:01:10.880 We're drifting on the wind
01:01:13.020 Through the mountains like a river
01:01:15.420 Today on Unlearn and Rewild,
01:01:20.440 we've been joined from Alaska's North Slope
01:01:22.660 by Wichin tribal members and Earth Protectors,
01:01:27.060 Faith Jamil and Princess Lukai,
01:01:30.160 along with our host, Ayanna Young.
01:01:31.920 The music we featured today was first from Athabascan songster Willie Dunn with Son of the Sun
01:01:39.760 And then T-Hawk featuring Red Hawk Woman with Crazy Enough
01:01:44.640 Our theme songs are Silence Returns by Bo and Like a River by Kate Wolfe
01:01:50.940 I'm the show's producer March Young
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01:02:03.220 Thanks, everyone.