For The Wild - August 16, 2023


KEIARA WADE on Generations of Black Cowboys ⧸344

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00:01:01.860 Hello and welcome to For the Wild podcast. I'm Ayanna Young.
00:01:07.900 Today we are speaking with Kiara Wade.
00:01:12.100 With being around the horses, they constantly remind us of how to bring ourselves back into
00:01:17.660 peace. And by us staying into peace, we're able to put that energy into the world.
00:01:26.520 They're just as important to us as we are to them. And we're very aware of what they bring for us
00:01:34.680 in a deeper way. But again, that's where it comes in to staying connected within ourselves,
00:01:39.940 to be aware of them, to understand that your horse is communicating to you.
00:01:44.960 Horses daily remind us of that because we have to communicate with each other, and it allows us to dig deeper within ourselves.
00:01:53.760 here Wade is the Compton Cowgirl of the Compton Cowboys she is in the process of pursuing her
00:02:14.020 barrel racing career and becoming the first black woman to make it to the NFR horses have always
00:02:20.980 been her positive outlook to the traumatic world she grew up in. She believes in giving back to
00:02:26.400 younger generations by allowing them to experience the equine world and possibly leading them away
00:02:31.700 from the streets and gang violence. She recently moved to Houston to accomplish her dream,
00:02:37.700 supported by the Compton Cowboys and the Compton Junior Equestrians Program.
00:02:42.240 She is a mother of two children, Taylor and Michael.
00:02:50.980 thank you so much for joining us today on the podcast really looking forward to having some
00:03:10.900 time with you and yeah just journeying through a conversation together well thank you for having
00:03:18.960 me i have been looking forward to having the conversation with you for some time now
00:03:24.480 so the day is here yay happy to be here today and yeah it's a summery day with a little breeze
00:03:32.880 up here which is nice and um yeah okay goodness so where to begin well i think it would be
00:03:41.880 amazing if you could give us some background on how the compton cowboys were founded and then
00:03:48.820 the various roles the organization has played throughout the past few years?
00:03:54.660 Okay, so the Compton Cowboys was founded in 2017, doing different things in our inner city.
00:04:04.220 And we were able to establish the Compton Cowboys in 2017. And with that, we really
00:04:13.740 We took our experience from the Compton Junior Posse and turned it into a way that would help us, but also to help us get back to the community.
00:04:27.000 So that is the whole brand of what we do.
00:04:32.900 So our slogan is streets raised us, horses saved us.
00:04:37.880 and that comes from us growing up in Compton
00:04:42.560 and we formed the Compton Cowboys
00:04:46.640 in order to give back to the community
00:04:49.540 and starting with our youth
00:04:51.660 and to be able to bring horses and humans together.
00:04:57.020 We're giving back to the youth
00:04:58.640 because we understand that is what's most important
00:05:02.040 and then also we're able to work globally
00:05:07.100 in the entertainment world and being popular influencers. So with everything that we're doing,
00:05:15.400 we're all set to give back to our community and be able to continue to help our youth grow
00:05:23.900 with horses and through horses yeah well I'm wondering how has the connection with horses
00:05:37.700 been therapeutic and a vital outlet throughout your life and how have you seen this type of
00:05:45.500 connection come to help others as well whether that be the youth or the community etc
00:05:51.300 So for me, growing up in the household, it was a little hectic. And growing up around gang violence and verbal abuse and alcohol abuse, those things would have trauma effect on me negative ways.
00:06:11.820 However, as a kid, you don't understand that.
00:06:14.140 You don't know that because I've always had the horses.
00:06:17.240 And I feel like the horses gave me the balance to take on everything that I was, you know, enduring in life as a young child.
00:06:27.240 And when I went off to college, that's when I really discovered how much horses meant to me.
00:06:33.660 And what I can understand is they taught me the absence of horses is to understand how much they meant.
00:06:42.700 So being a kid and looking back, it helped me to gain responsibility, respect.
00:06:51.100 And respect is a big factor being with the horses because you can't demand respect.
00:06:56.740 You have to give the respect and the horses will give it back to you.
00:07:00.140 So respect is the main thing that gives you a sense of integrity, humanity, that also allows you to have some level of accountability, a different self-awareness as well.
00:07:17.760 and it helped me to communicate and be able to understand my own personal
00:07:25.800 trauma issues, things that I was dealing with in life still as an adult today. It's part of
00:07:34.960 my healing journey and it's very therapeutic for me. And so for the kids, we have seen the same
00:07:43.480 thing. Some kids may have behavioral issues. They might grow up in a different household where some
00:07:50.620 of these things are going on, whether it's feeling neglected, whether it's the yelling,
00:07:56.680 verbal abuse, or being in foster care, or just absence of parents. Any of those things that
00:08:04.140 could have a negative impact on a child, we are able to allow the horses to give them a sense
00:08:11.660 of comfort. And with the comfort, it allows the kids to be able to ultimately be able to find
00:08:21.540 themselves. So it's a way of you actually communicating with yourself, not knowing
00:08:28.360 that you're communicating with yourself. And all that is to help you be a better human being.
00:08:33.980 I believe the same with adults people who we know who were riding horses they still have some sense
00:08:42.480 of horse attachment you know it's something that you just can never let go of because it brings so
00:08:48.420 much peace to your life and I don't think a lot of people look at it in that sense because it's
00:08:55.800 just something that we we're just doing as a second nature but for us and really understanding
00:09:02.340 how we took this negative and turned it positive we look at it in a different perspective and
00:09:10.060 that's how we're able to come up with these different strategies and different influence
00:09:14.560 ways to help our community to overcome different obstacles that they may have
00:09:19.900 endured or may still be enduring you know the horses can give you some type of balance and peace
00:09:25.120 beautiful uh yeah i'm wondering more about the youth and thinking about how formative activities
00:09:38.960 like writing really matter for young people and yeah how does your work prioritize valuing the
00:09:48.140 experiences and needs of youth and how is your experience as a parent shaped the way you
00:09:54.340 understand the need for programs like Compton Junior Equestrians? I believe they both go hand
00:10:01.100 in hand with the question because it allows me to do what's in my heart. With riding horses and
00:10:11.060 with teaching kids how to ride horses and also being a parent, the way that I interact with
00:10:17.360 these children is as if they were my own children. To add to that, a lot of kids don't have somebody
00:10:24.120 they can look up to. They don't have a mentor or a positive outlet for them. So with the
00:10:32.000 interaction that we have with these kids, for me, it's taken on as being that mentor that they may
00:10:39.940 need. And also for me, I didn't have that mentor. I have family members. However, some things that
00:10:48.820 dealt with in life, I wasn't able to speak about until I became older. So the importance of it is
00:10:57.200 to be able to lead by example. We want to be the role model that someone has never seen or give
00:11:07.080 them a different outlook on life and maybe make them want to make better decisions. And the same
00:11:14.720 with being a parent. I'm leading by example, and I'm instilling certain things in my kids that
00:11:20.880 they're able to appreciate as they grow and get older, because it's teaching them, you know,
00:11:26.120 responsibility, respect, self-awareness. And what hard work is, hard work always pays off.
00:11:34.460 However, you have to be willing to put the time in. And for us, I just believe that is something
00:11:41.800 that's so deeply in our hearts. And we feel so driven by doing this. This is what we're called
00:11:49.820 to do. And we're putting our best foot forward every day by being a positive influence,
00:11:58.360 being a person, being a parent. And all those things all come back to one, ultimately just
00:12:07.380 living with humanity and being an example of what that looks like.
00:12:37.380 a fighter they they they carried you you you you you no matter who she be now she she she she she
00:12:46.380 carried you you you you no matter what she says or doesn't do she she she she carried you you you
00:12:55.480 you don't even have to like her just look at her and love her and know that she carried you
00:13:01.960 She too was a child and her little life was wild
00:13:06.980 You don't know what she went through
00:13:09.780 You may think that you do
00:13:13.380 You don't know what she went through
00:13:17.300 That little girl was you
00:13:20.340 She too was a child
00:13:28.020 And her little life was so wild
00:13:33.220 You just don't know what she went through
00:13:39.820 And you may think that you do
00:13:45.580 But you just don't know what she went through
00:13:50.840 And the joke is there
00:13:54.000 And the joke is that, that little girl, that little girl, that little girl, that little girl is you.
00:14:10.380 Mm-hmm.
00:14:11.620 Yeah.
00:14:12.740 And so often I think our culture views children's needs and feelings as somehow lesser or on a different level from adults.
00:14:23.800 So I'm wondering, how can we come to place value in children and invest in young people
00:14:30.920 as a culture?
00:14:32.520 I think the first thing that we have to understand is that just because they're children does
00:14:39.920 not mean that they don't have feelings.
00:14:42.080 They might not know how to internalize it and express it, but they have feelings.
00:14:46.700 So what I was always taught is to treat someone how you want to be treated.
00:14:52.920 Same thing I'm telling my kids when I'm talking to these young kids.
00:14:56.420 Same thing, because you never know what a person is dealing with.
00:15:01.020 However, if we don't allow the children to start off with something that's positive to go after, all we're doing is allowing them to neglect that as they get older,
00:15:17.480 which makes it harder for them to be able to define what could be an issue, a pain, a hurt, abandonment, whatever it could be.
00:15:27.760 It's going to be hard for them to define it if as a child they felt like they weren't important, that their voice wasn't being heard.
00:15:36.800 And it's all in a way of respecting them at their age.
00:15:42.620 You have to meet a child where they are and understanding them, taking the time to want to understand who they are.
00:15:51.220 If you're not being a parent, you know, so when you're not the parent, you don't know what they've experienced with being a parent.
00:15:59.120 They're still growing. So their mind is evolving and you have to respect the fact that is part of life itself.
00:16:06.700 because as an adult, we don't always understand certain feelings that we may be feeling at that
00:16:12.240 moment. We have to take a step back and sometimes sit within ourselves and say, okay, this happened
00:16:19.320 and I responded this way, but why did I do that? Or how am I feeling about it? So I think the same
00:16:27.500 with kids, the younger we are able to understand that about their growth and who they are and not
00:16:37.140 look at them as they're just a kid. They don't have any feelings or they won't remember.
00:16:43.300 I think that we'll be able to tackle it faster because for me, I know growing up, I wasn't able
00:16:51.720 to express myself because I was told you're a child and I'm the adult for most cases.
00:16:58.080 You know, so that means that I learned to not share my thoughts, whether they were good
00:17:02.120 or bad, or something that was frightening to me because I felt that I wasn't heard.
00:17:07.820 However, as an adult and on this healing journey, certain things had to come back to me to understand
00:17:17.820 that feeling by experiencing that feeling again. And I would have to sit in that and say, okay,
00:17:24.940 I felt this feeling when I was a kid. And this is what happened with the situation. Now as an adult,
00:17:31.940 I'm feeling the same feeling. Why is that? So now I have to dissect it and break it all down
00:17:38.860 and get back down to the root. If we understand that could happen to a child, we wouldn't allow
00:17:47.700 certain things to be placed on them so that we wouldn't have to try to correct them and
00:17:56.500 kill them. They can grow up and be able to express themselves, understand what it's like to be heard,
00:18:03.720 understand it's okay to have emotions, whether they're good or bad,
00:18:07.520 and somebody just taking the time to actually listen to them.
00:18:11.020 thank you for sharing all that and i wanted to read from the new york times article evoking
00:18:21.180 history black cowboys take to the streets you discussed showing up to the 2020 marches on
00:18:27.440 horseback saying quote these horses feel whatever we feel and they are hurting right now because we
00:18:33.160 are hurting right now too there's so much love and unity within the black cowboy and cowgirl
00:18:38.400 community. We're just trying to bring that energy to these marches in a peaceful way, end quote.
00:18:45.340 So I'm wondering, how does your connection with the horses provide an emotional outlet and a place
00:18:52.780 for solace and strength? Horses and humans have a synergy together. We are speaking the same
00:19:03.640 language, but we don't speak the same language. So that's where it comes to, you have to respect
00:19:09.940 the horse first and the horse will respect you. So you have to learn the horse's way of communicating
00:19:16.820 and then you guys can communicate together versus a human, you know, where it was a verbally speak
00:19:22.720 to one another. So, example, say if for me, having an emotional day, I can go down to the barn and
00:19:34.140 my demeanor, my attitude, my energy is giving that to the horse. And my horse can recognize that.
00:19:44.780 And what the horse can do is take her nose and rub it on me.
00:19:52.300 To me, that's a way of letting me know, communicating hi.
00:19:57.940 It's a love language.
00:19:59.820 So with that, it's like someone understands me.
00:20:03.860 Someone knows what I'm going through without me having to say anything.
00:20:07.640 so that's what's very important when you're riding these horses and you're getting this
00:20:14.760 connection this bond it's so much deeper because we don't speak the same language yet we come to
00:20:21.540 a point where we can understand when your horse doesn't like certain food or if your horse doesn't
00:20:29.020 like a certain person you know horses sense energy just the same as babies so if you bring a person
00:20:36.720 around your horse that's not a good energy your horse will do something to let you know that
00:20:41.740 and you have to be in tune within yourself to understand that your horse is communicating to
00:20:50.040 you and i think that horses daily remind us of that because we have to communicate with each
00:20:57.200 other and it allows us to dig deeper within ourselves i really appreciate hearing that and
00:21:05.520 I sense that so much of your work is made possible by the horses themselves.
00:21:13.220 And I'm thinking about how you foster a deep and caring connection to them,
00:21:19.620 valuing both their role in the spot and the more personal connection you have to them outside of just riding.
00:21:28.260 So these horses are my babies.
00:21:31.340 and reason being is because they get me, they understand me. I don't have to speak
00:21:38.720 and they can make me feel better. And they give me a sense of peace because they're peaceful
00:21:47.740 horses are peaceful. That's just their nature is peaceful. We as humans will come and interrupt
00:21:55.080 that peace for them. So again, with being around the horses, they constantly remind us of how to
00:22:02.480 bring ourselves back into peace. And by us staying into peace, we're able to put that energy into the
00:22:10.440 world. So they're just as important to us as we are to them. And we're very aware of that and what
00:22:21.700 they bring for us in a deeper way because peace is something that money can't buy you know so we
00:22:29.360 always want to put their feelings first but again that's where it comes in to staying connected
00:22:35.200 within ourselves to be aware of them communicating with us and we're meeting their needs and if we
00:22:41.940 meet their needs they're going to go over and beyond to meet ours
00:22:45.440 Slide closer into me
00:22:58.660 As long as I get to you
00:23:02.860 Slide closer into me
00:23:09.920 I can't wait to feel you
00:23:15.440 But will we go pray around me
00:23:20.600 As long as I'm feeling you
00:23:25.780 Sky may fall below me
00:23:31.960 But I'm only feeling you
00:23:36.700 We were a sweet song
00:23:39.940 Ooh, we were a sweet song
00:23:45.700 Ooh, we were a sweet song
00:23:51.300 Ooh, do you remember me?
00:23:57.600 Love ain't broke like this
00:24:09.940 gosh I wish I had a deeper connection with horses right now hearing you speak I feel so moved I'm
00:24:24.560 like oh man yeah do you have dogs I do yes so my way of interpreting is that horses are big dogs
00:24:35.700 that you can ride. That's amazing. That's honestly the way that I feel about it. I grew up with dogs
00:24:43.480 and horses. And honestly, that's what the horses bring to me. It's the same thing of how you
00:24:50.460 communicate with this dog. You have to understand when the dog doesn't like a certain food or when
00:24:56.880 the dog doesn't like a certain person, you know, because the dog will let you know. And by their
00:25:01.780 gestures or you have a house dog and potty train them. It's a way of them communicating to you and
00:25:08.280 picking up on your, your communicating skills, you know, and the same with horses. It's just
00:25:16.340 that we're on their back. So you have this big old powerful animal. However, this animal is
00:25:24.400 looking for you to protect them. So that's the easier way for me to break it down and understanding
00:25:31.440 how to you know appreciate them and the animals allow us to see things in ourselves that we're
00:25:43.280 not aware of that can be just we're caught up you know social media life is moving so fast but
00:25:51.460 again at the beginning of time before there were cars we had horses you know when life was simpler
00:25:59.460 they were our everything from farming to transportation. Now we have them and
00:26:11.760 I believe that if anybody has any type of animal, that they should really just take more time to
00:26:19.720 sit with the animal. And sitting with the animal, I believe it would allow us to
00:26:25.340 reconnect within ourselves because at some point over the years we have been losing ourselves more
00:26:32.680 and more and by animals giving us a sense of awareness you know it would allow us to
00:26:42.060 be in tune within ourselves
00:26:43.740 yeah and maybe just as a another follow-up to this before we move on
00:26:53.360 And on their website, Compton Junior Equestrians,
00:26:57.360 they explain, quote,
00:26:58.740 teach leadership, community involvement,
00:27:01.060 respect for animals and nature,
00:27:03.120 respect for others and themselves
00:27:04.980 so that they may be productive members of our community.
00:27:10.280 And so, yeah, I'm thinking about
00:27:12.420 how does care for animals and people and community
00:27:15.040 permeate into the culture of your work?
00:27:18.780 So caring for animals is something that
00:27:23.360 It makes you feel good to do a good deed.
00:27:27.780 So for me to care for this animal, for this animal to depend on me, but also to see this animal healthy, to see this animal happy, to see this animal giving me the love.
00:27:42.720 That is so rewarding because, again, the way that this animal says thank you is not verbally.
00:27:51.300 so it's it's a indescribable feeling and again to make somebody's day so to speak but i'm
00:28:07.060 taking care of this animal and i'm providing for this animal the best that this animal could have
00:28:13.880 with my knowledge and continually growing to understand how I can continue to meet this
00:28:22.700 animal's needs. To me, that's extremely rewarding. And it's what I'm called to do.
00:28:34.000 I like to take care of people. I like to make people's day. I like to make my life easier
00:28:39.260 because of the way that it comes back to me.
00:28:43.600 God allows me to continue to do this
00:28:46.340 and show what life truly is about, I believe.
00:28:52.360 You know, and it's love.
00:28:54.100 And this is a form of love,
00:28:56.820 an expression of love
00:28:58.500 by caring for this animal.
00:29:01.640 And then when you see how much the animal appreciates that,
00:29:06.620 because again, the animal will give you
00:29:08.580 a hundred percent and try their best to always please and satisfy you. And that's coming more
00:29:17.820 so from being a parent, but also being a professional athlete. So with bear racing,
00:29:25.940 that's what I do. And those animals, they have to be so in sync with me or I have to be so in
00:29:35.580 sync with them. We have to be in sync with each other. And to know that when we're out there and
00:29:42.640 we're doing this fast event and we're trusting one another, like that is so rewarding for me.
00:29:51.620 And on the parent side, to trust this big, large animal to not harm my kids. I have a two-year-old
00:30:01.120 and a six-year-old. My daughter, her first time was on a horse, she was nine months old.
00:30:08.540 And the horse did not do anything crazy. My son, he's two years old now. He's able to walk the
00:30:17.520 horse. He helps me feed the horse. He can be around the horse where I don't have to feel,
00:30:24.820 oh this horse is going to try to harm my son you know and that's another rewarding feeling of
00:30:31.820 letting me know that I'm doing a good job and this animal is letting me know you take care of me I'm
00:30:39.680 going to take care of you and whatever you're connected to yeah oh that's just so beautiful I
00:30:50.660 love talking about this I have definitely felt a deep kinship with animals and I have a dog
00:31:01.000 right now that I'm so obsessed with I love taking care of him and it can be stressful at times
00:31:07.120 because I want what's best but the the space he can bring me into and honestly the space he can
00:31:16.280 bring me out of is incredible how much intimacy with him changes me. And yeah, so thanks for
00:31:23.620 sharing all this. So now moving on to another topic, I wanted to discuss how equine sports
00:31:33.220 have typically been incredibly cost prohibitive and often extremely class-based and exclusive.
00:31:41.000 And I'm wondering how you navigate the stereotypes of what it means to work with horses
00:31:45.360 and that exclusive culture that often surrounds the sport.
00:31:50.840 I believe the way that I've navigated through this throughout life
00:31:54.600 is showing the representation of the love that I have for this animal.
00:32:01.180 And I also believe that's what we're doing with the Hampton Cowboys.
00:32:05.960 You know, we're taking the childhood experiences that we have with the animals
00:32:11.760 on how they helped us stay aligned
00:32:15.100 and all the positive things
00:32:19.060 that the horses brought to us.
00:32:21.180 What we're doing is allowing our community
00:32:24.860 to experience the positivity
00:32:27.360 that these horses have brought to our lives
00:32:30.300 and we're appreciative of them
00:32:32.480 and we're giving that back.
00:32:37.100 So again, we're just leading by example.
00:32:40.860 So when we're truly, I believe that when you're truly doing what you're set out to do, everything else doesn't matter.
00:32:48.940 So we're truly here to give back to our community.
00:32:52.720 And we are showing the community through what we do with our community that we love these animals.
00:33:00.980 and the way they let us know that they're not being harmed or we're taking good care of them,
00:33:06.120 that we do actually love them, is by how they reward us.
00:33:11.000 We're able to allow these children who have never been around horses before, and they're safe.
00:33:16.960 So if a horse in any kind of danger or is not treated properly, they wouldn't be so willing to help us.
00:33:27.960 so I think that's just what it is we're just living by example and we're blocking out the
00:33:34.720 negative and we're continuing to love these animals the way that we do wholeheartedly
00:33:41.540 and how would you like to see the culture shift around equine sports and care in the future
00:33:52.340 I would like for it to be more supported in a positive way, because, like, again, we understand what the horses and human synergy brings and what it does for us, you know, so they have therapeutic riding for disabled kids.
00:34:14.340 kids. It helps out. It gives them different motivation. And for us, we work with inner city
00:34:22.400 kids, you know, and we come from different backgrounds. So the horses have positive
00:34:28.700 impacts. I would like to see that the society appreciate what positivity that the horses have
00:34:38.220 brought to us and not get so caught up in their own way of thinking, so to speak. Because if you
00:34:45.600 look and see what has been done in a positive way, you won't feel the way that you're feeling
00:34:52.320 about these animals, I believe. And I want to get back to something we had briefly touched on
00:35:02.300 earlier with horses and protests and resistance and marches and the calvin cowboys was particularly
00:35:11.860 active in the 2020 black lives matter protests and i'm wondering how have you carried the ethos
00:35:19.720 of resistance through the organization and the years following again we're just here to really
00:35:27.560 do what we believe. And with that time, you know, with everything going on, that was what we needed
00:35:36.220 to do. And it set a tone for us as young individuals, you know, but also we're the
00:35:44.940 Compton Cowboys and this is what we stand for. This is what we believe in. We believe in unity
00:35:50.480 and our horses have allowed us to unite different people in different cultures.
00:35:57.780 So we're standing on that and believing that everything will continue to work out in our favor
00:36:03.720 how it needs to, because we are moving to do something from a higher calling
00:36:08.700 and we are living out our purpose.
00:36:13.380 And all we can do is just trust our hearts and move in that way and understand and spread love and live by examples.
00:36:25.720 in the lesser known history of african-american cowboys smithsonian magazine explains quote
00:36:36.320 few images embody the spirit of the american west as well as the trailblazing sharpshooting
00:36:42.440 horseback riding cowboy of american lore and though african-american cowboys don't play a
00:36:48.860 part in the popular narrative historians estimate that one in four cowboys were black end quote
00:36:54.480 and I'm wondering how has history been rewritten to privilege a very narrow
00:37:01.280 and white understanding of what a cowboy is and what stories are we missing out on when we only
00:37:08.560 listen to this perspective that is interesting uh because growing up I grew up riding in the only
00:37:18.000 black traveling rodeo circuit and still is to this day the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo
00:37:25.900 and that is for us to understand our history and the western culture western world you know and
00:37:37.040 I believe for us as Compton Cowboys we all are connected with the Bill Pickett Rodeo
00:37:45.980 and with our history. So as long as we have our writing program and we're able to touch kids and
00:37:54.040 touch different lives and communities, we will be able to spread the word and give people a
00:38:02.260 different perspective to understand the history. And that's just all we can do. It's something
00:38:11.200 that we're doing and it's causing a positive impact and it's bringing awareness to our lives. 0.54
00:38:41.200 to swallow passive slow listening white fragility thick in these streets priests turning warriors
00:38:46.920 dreams exposed prophecy got me rethinking who is community like who watch my back who protect
00:38:56.200 black woman who protect black trans who protect black seeds who protect black seeds 0.98
00:39:01.380 so you ain't got no pop without black it's like that ash without black ain't got no beat without 0.99
00:39:08.080 Ain't got no soul without black 1.00
00:39:09.880 Ain't got no dream without black 1.00
00:39:11.400 Ain't got no stars without black 1.00
00:39:13.220 You ain't got no power without black 1.00
00:39:17.420 Ain't smack that ass without black 1.00
00:39:18.900 Ain't got no beat without black 1.00
00:39:20.400 Ain't got no soul without black 1.00
00:39:21.880 Ain't got no dream without black 1.00
00:39:23.380 Ain't got no stars without black 1.00
00:39:25.260 I mean really
00:39:28.200 Black liberation
00:39:30.080 Ain't so complex 0.98
00:39:32.080 Get your leg 1.00
00:39:34.200 Off my neck 1.00
00:39:35.660 Let me breathe
00:39:37.060 8 10 min 46 seconds
00:39:41.160 And how many more since George Floyd
00:39:43.920 And how many more since George Floyd
00:39:46.680 And how many more 1.00
00:39:48.580 So ain't got no power without black 1.00
00:39:53.440 It's like that ass without black 1.00
00:39:54.920 Ain't got no beat without black 1.00
00:39:56.400 Ain't got no soul without black 1.00
00:39:57.900 Ain't got no dream without black 1.00
00:39:59.400 Ain't got no song without black 1.00
00:40:01.300 So ain't got no power without black 1.00
00:40:05.400 It's like that ass without black 1.00
00:40:06.980 Ain't got no beat without black, ain't got no soul without black 1.00
00:40:09.880 Ain't got no dream without black, ain't got no songs without black 0.99
00:40:13.200 But who is community? 0.84
00:40:21.060 And I grieve, and I grieve, and I grieve, and I grieve, and I grieve, and I grieve
00:40:30.620 But I believe that we will win, I believe that we will win
00:40:34.460 I believe that we will win
00:40:52.460 We will win
00:40:57.460 I believe that we will win
00:41:25.460 I, thee, we will win.
00:41:37.000 I, thee, we will win.
00:41:44.400 and i guess another like a follow-up to that question is how do you engage with a complex
00:42:01.960 understanding of what cowboys are acknowledging the diversity of what it means to be a cowboy
00:42:07.400 and the associations that come with it for me i just do what i believe i'm connected with these
00:42:16.560 horses i grew up riding it was very diverse also like i say about the bill picket rodeo that was
00:42:25.440 the only rodeo circuit however i grew up in california so we didn't have a lot of rodeos
00:42:30.860 going on like they do down south and that's where i'm currently at now i'm in texas to pursue
00:42:37.020 my rodeo career from what the experience I understand it to be. However, now in California,
00:42:44.340 it has picked up more. So the younger kids coming up after me, they do have more exposure to rodeo.
00:42:52.140 But when I was growing up, I would go to these bear races and I would be the only Black kid there.
00:42:59.560 And I'm so grateful that I had that experience as a young kid because I didn't understand what 1.00
00:43:05.060 means for me now. So I'm okay with any controversy. I'm okay with any negative thing that comes with
00:43:14.180 not being accepted, you know, because I experienced it already as a kid. I wasn't accepted, but they
00:43:21.600 were all white women and kids. They didn't accept me until I started winning. Certain people 1.00
00:43:28.180 acknowledged me. However, it never made me feel less than. It never changed who I was,
00:43:40.500 what I thought about myself with riding horses. Again, I love to ride horses and that's what I
00:43:47.480 was there for. And not even knowing that, but that was my mind frame. And so now the things
00:43:53.560 that are going on in the world today. I've already conquered so much because I might not remember
00:44:00.140 every single situation, but I can remember the feeling, you know, so I'm okay with being
00:44:06.860 uncomfortable. And that's just, again, I just believe what's in my heart and I'm just going
00:44:12.940 after that. It's such a good lesson for everyone and how to block the noise and follow your heart
00:44:23.420 in your calling. Yeah, I think connecting calling to identity, I would love to dive into some of
00:44:31.540 the cultural ideas behind what it means to be a cowboy. And it seems so often we're presented
00:44:38.780 with this masculine, ruggedly individualistic idea of what a real cowboy is. And I'm wondering
00:44:46.080 And how you're working to transcend these limiting definitions.
00:44:51.240 It is hard work, you know.
00:44:53.360 So when you think about it, cowboy, man, hard work.
00:44:57.320 And yes, it is.
00:44:58.280 However, if you're a cowgirl and this is what you truly want to do, you are willing to do the hard work.
00:45:06.120 Now, me personally, I haven't done all the hard work, like with the cattles and all that.
00:45:11.320 But I have experienced women doing that.
00:45:14.460 So it's possible.
00:45:16.080 You know, that you can be just as hardworking and just as dedicated as a cowboy being a cowgirl.
00:45:23.340 And I believe that all the women, all the cowgirls are doing something that's true to their heart because it requires so much hard work and then also being undermined in a sense.
00:45:36.280 And I believe that over the years, we have been getting more respect because of the hard work and no complaining, you know, and really loving what we do. And that's just something that is just going to have to be where it is.
00:45:52.880 I think if we get caught up in not getting the acknowledgement that society said we should get, then that's when things are going to go wrong in how we perceive being a cowgirl.
00:46:08.360 but standing your ground and trusting yourself and believing in yourself where you know someone
00:46:16.620 can't just push over on you because you know you work hard and you're dedicated to all of the work
00:46:22.480 that you have put in to being a successful cowgirl and I don't know where that road will go 0.98
00:46:30.460 it has opened up more because with women they're looking to give another sport to women in the 0.59
00:46:37.600 rodeo circuit at the actual high performance rodeo level. And that's a good thing. It took
00:46:45.760 all these years. So I just believe that with that, women did not get caught in the fact that I need
00:46:52.960 to have a place because we do have a place. We have a voice. We stand and we're showing that 0.99
00:46:58.580 every time we step into the arena, every time we step out and dealing with these horses. And that's
00:47:05.420 That's all we have to do is just continue to move in our own way.
00:47:09.920 And again, blocking out the noise and not getting caught up in what society may want to do to us, because you have to have this in your heart to do this hard work and to be able to take all the criticism that comes with it.
00:47:24.720 And all you can do is just trust and just move forward.
00:47:30.720 Yeah, so much about trust.
00:47:33.320 And I am really curious to hear more about your journey with barrel racing, as I would imagine that has taken a lot of trust. And you've mentioned that you're in the process of pursuing your barrel racing career as the first Black woman to make it to the national finals rodeo. And so I'd just love to hear more about this journey and the culture around barrel racing.
00:47:57.780 yes so i am in the process of continuing my my journey to being the first black african woman
00:48:07.700 to make it to the national finals barrel racer and again i just appreciate my childhood
00:48:15.940 adversities that i had to experience or you can say disadvantages because i'm you know
00:48:24.200 little Black girl and don't really have the funds to pursue this rodeo career how I would like to.
00:48:33.000 However, it was in my heart and I just stuck with that. And now on this journey, being a single
00:48:41.540 parent with two kids, I'm still facing adversity. However, I have my support of my Something Cowboys
00:48:49.820 family and their understanding how I feel about this from being a kid into now. I've found different
00:48:58.280 ways to not allow any adversity that I've experienced to hinder me. It may have slowed
00:49:04.940 me down, but I stayed true to us in my heart and getting closer and closer, you know, one step at
00:49:11.560 a time. But again, I'm trusting through everything and asking for guidance and different people to
00:49:17.320 come into my life to support as well because need the support that's something that you know has to
00:49:23.100 be in order to do this because it's on a high level and the funding and just the focus and
00:49:30.800 I'm just grateful to be at this time in place right now you know it's not easy so I have to
00:49:39.300 have my head together so that is the main thing is if your head is not together you won't be able
00:49:46.060 to make the right decisions and the right moves and all that could be very vital to your outcome
00:49:52.400 of any situation that you're going after. Yeah, absolutely. And what are the things you do to
00:50:01.560 keep your head together and keep clear and focused? First thing is I pray. I had to understand also
00:50:10.980 what is the difference between my calling, my purpose, and my talent? So I have to understand
00:50:19.440 that those should go hand in hand. And that's where the prayers come in, seeking God and
00:50:26.880 asking for direction, wisdom, and understanding so that I'm able to stay on course and understanding
00:50:35.040 that there's no time on me achieving this
00:50:40.960 as long as I stay aligned with my purpose.
00:50:45.020 So that could be something that's different
00:50:47.060 to what society sees is,
00:50:49.580 well, you're this age and you have this
00:50:51.660 and it could be all these different things
00:50:53.540 that are against you and you haven't made it.
00:50:56.620 But I just know that I'm on that journey
00:50:58.880 and I know that every step is getting closer and closer.
00:51:02.160 So I just, you know, make sure that I block out the noise. And it requires me to not talk to people so much, not to express so much and really understand who I am as a person and what I possess and how to protect that. And that's all protecting of my peace.
00:51:24.860 yeah well thanks so much for sharing a bit about how you keep yourself
00:51:34.860 clear and focused and ready for what's ahead and uh yeah as we come to a close on this
00:51:43.300 conversation i guess i just wanted to ask what kind of future do you hope the compton cowboys
00:51:52.020 will create.
00:51:54.340 And is there anything else
00:51:55.860 you want to close us off with?
00:51:59.420 I just would like for,
00:52:01.840 you know, us as Compton Cowboys
00:52:03.560 to continue what we're doing
00:52:05.020 for our community.
00:52:07.680 Believing in what we believe in
00:52:11.180 and holding on to that
00:52:12.400 and being that example.
00:52:16.400 But also to understand again
00:52:19.660 that the timetable is not our time you know and we just have to just go through it because
00:52:30.620 again when you're doing something that has never been heard of in the way that we're doing it
00:52:36.480 a lot of people can't see it because it's never been done so we have to stay connected
00:52:44.460 and stay believing and trusting and understanding
00:52:50.100 that we're on a mission for a higher calling.
00:52:54.000 And we just have to continue to do
00:52:56.040 what we've been doing our lives.
00:52:58.840 That's what got us to be at this position
00:53:01.240 and really just be humble enough to be grateful
00:53:05.680 to know that we are making history.
00:53:12.120 And we just continue to do that.
00:53:14.460 And we're doing it for the generations to come so that we can be able to leave a positive mark and allow them to experience more than what we've gotten.
00:53:27.340 So paving the way for the generations to come and allow them to have things just a little bit easier than what we had to go through.
00:53:37.880 mm-hmm yeah okay thank you so much for sharing with us and i really enjoyed imagining the horses
00:53:50.800 through this conversation and and you and your connection with them and so i really appreciate
00:53:57.380 being able to share this time and hear from you well thank you for having me and i'm glad that i
00:54:05.440 I was able just to shed the light on what we do as the Compton Cowboys
00:54:09.900 and to have this conversation with you.
00:54:13.260 And again, thank you.
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