For The Wild - December 25, 2025


PLANTS ARE POLITICAL on the Sweetness of Watermelon and Prickly Pear S1_3


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00:00:00.000 For all the generations in me, I sing, I sing, I speak my truth.
00:00:23.120 For all the generations in me, I sing, I sing, I speak my truth.
00:00:29.980 made in collaboration with Olive Odyssey, a Palestinian olive oil brand that serves as a
00:00:35.300 gateway for Palestinian farmers to connect with people around the world and tell their story
00:00:40.780 through the foods they produce. In this series, you'll hear from Aya Gawazi-Faur, Olive Odyssey's
00:00:46.680 co-founder, about plants indigenous to the Palestinian landscape and their deep ties to
00:00:51.900 culture, resistance, and enduring lifeways. Amid ongoing Israeli occupation and violence against
00:00:58.620 Palestinians, we hope the series serves as a reminder of not only the lifeblood of Palestinian
00:01:04.060 land, but also of the sacredness of land itself and all the life it holds. Plants Are Political
00:01:10.480 calls us to consider the way landscapes, foodways, and connection to the earth are intertwined with
00:01:16.140 systems of oppression and movements of resistance. May this be an invitation to reflect on the central
00:01:22.180 role land and the more-than-human world plays in movements for justice everywhere. In this episode,
00:01:27.940 we focus on watermelon and prickly pear thank you for listening
00:01:32.300 okay so much more to to talk about there but i do also want to be able to discuss watermelon
00:01:44.680 and prickly pear and so i'd love to get into your relationship to watermelon and prickly pear and
00:01:55.400 And if you could tell us about your relationship with these plants and the seasonality of them
00:02:02.920 and how you experience them in the cycles of the year.
00:02:11.940 For watermelon, really, it's a symbol of Palestine.
00:02:16.540 I think today everybody knows about the use of watermelon as a symbol for Palestine.
00:02:24.980 After the occupation of the West Bank, Ghazi, and parts of even 1948 in 1967, the Israeli government banned the raising of Palestinian flags.
00:02:39.280 And during this time, so people were trying to display the Palestinian flag in different ways than using the flag,
00:02:47.980 so that people would hang their clothes outside of the house.
00:02:51.800 So they would do green pants or red shirts, white shirts and black shirts.
00:03:01.020 And you know how this was the way you would show the flag in your home.
00:03:05.580 So people would try and display the flag in different ways.
00:03:11.400 And so one of the ways was the watermelon having all of the colors of the flag
00:03:17.520 it became a flag in a way and today i think you know people were are carrying a watermelon
00:03:26.800 around in protests and you know around their necks some a left of people on their bodies and
00:03:37.260 you know it's a reminder no matter what you do to suppress resistance or to not allow people to
00:03:44.800 express their love for their land. I think people will always find ways to express their
00:03:51.540 feelings and thoughts and love for a land. Okay, so we talked a little bit about watermelon
00:03:58.000 as a symbol, and I am wanting to read this quote by Al Jazeera, and it says, quote,
00:04:06.260 following the 1967 war when Israel seized control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip
00:04:11.200 and annexed East Jerusalem. The government banned the Palestinian flag in the occupied territory.
00:04:18.000 Although the flag has not always been banned by law, the watermelon caught on as a symbol of
00:04:22.780 resistance. It appears in art, shirts, graffiti, posters, and on the ubiquitous watermelon emoji
00:04:28.680 on social media. And yeah, I'm wondering if you can maybe discuss how nature can help us in our
00:04:36.740 resistance efforts whether it be a symbol or sustenance or inspiration yeah i think i think
00:04:44.420 for here like we've talked about the olive tree we've talked about the za'atar and here you see
00:04:51.980 the the connection to this uh fruit that is really a symbolic uh connection although there's a whole
00:05:00.640 different story about growing the watermelon here in palestine and not having enough water
00:05:06.400 in the West Bank and in Ghazi.
00:05:08.540 But really, I think one of the things that people,
00:05:13.360 one of the ways people today are resistant
00:05:16.080 is a movement that is emerging.
00:05:19.800 It's an agricultural movement
00:05:21.760 that is focused on food sovereignty.
00:05:25.560 And this movement is all about plants,
00:05:29.580 you know, finding liberation and freedom
00:05:32.600 in growing plants.
00:05:34.340 I think in every aspect of the colonized, plants are a big part of the decolonization and achieving liberation, whether it's for food, for symbols, emotional connection to these plants.
00:05:53.680 Yeah, I think plants and nature plays a huge part in the movement for liberation in Palestine.
00:06:04.340 The process of getting free
00:06:08.520 The process of getting free
00:06:15.840 For all the generations
00:06:22.840 I sing, I sing, I speak my truth
00:06:31.820 For all the generations in the future come in
00:06:38.820 We sing, we sing, we fight for you
00:06:45.820 The process of getting free
00:06:51.820 The process of getting free
00:06:58.820 And what is your relationship with prickly pear?
00:07:23.380 I don't see that used as a symbol, obviously, in the way watermelon has,
00:07:27.780 But I know you've mentioned that it's also a really important fruit.
00:07:33.620 Yeah, so prickly pear comes to Palestine from Mexico.
00:07:38.980 And back then, so we've learned from the indigenous to, we brought it here really because we've discovered about the cushiony and using this insect to make color.
00:07:54.120 and you know use this color to paint fabric or food and so this is something that the natives
00:08:02.500 here learned from the natives there and brought it here we planted it in a lot of the villages
00:08:09.340 and we use the plant also as a divider you know to protect that people lived in small villages
00:08:14.760 and small towns so and small communities so they would surround themselves with the prickly pear
00:08:21.080 and this way animals wouldn't come into the villages and maybe eat the animals that they've
00:08:28.480 grown or the plants that they've grown and so today in 48 when over 500 palestinian towns and
00:08:38.960 villages were demolished and ethnically cleansed all of these villages most of them were destroyed
00:08:44.500 and all the buildings were destroyed in many villages you can't see anything other than
00:08:50.180 scattered stones that you know for most people they would look just like normal scattered stones
00:08:55.700 but what's always tells you that there was a palestinian village or town is the prickly pear
00:09:04.140 because you see it there and this is one way where you you walk around these huge forests
00:09:13.420 that they've planted of pine trees that one of the reasons they planted it is to hide all of
00:09:20.320 the villages that were under but you still see the prickly pear the prickly pear has become
00:09:26.960 and it was also in arabic it's called sabr which means patience you know when you see it you know
00:09:33.620 there was a village here has become a symbol for palestinians for being you know patient because
00:09:40.740 the plant also it's called sabr because you know it can go throughout the whole summer without
00:09:47.080 water and it still hold on and grow and so it became also a symbol for palestinian resistance
00:09:54.640 and endurance in a way and you see it in a lot of palestinian arts and yeah maybe i think the
00:10:04.560 Watermelon today is known around the world is more famous.
00:10:11.000 But within Palestine, I would probably say that prickly pear is a more significant symbol, really.
00:10:19.220 That's really interesting.
00:10:20.160 Yeah, I like imagining seeing them and how they have followed the people there.
00:10:27.780 But did you mention the uses of prickly pear and how it's, yeah, just how it's, what the kind of relationship that you have with it?
00:10:39.420 Yeah, we actually, we eat the fruit itself.
00:10:44.960 It's actually now in season.
00:10:47.840 People look forward for the season.
00:10:51.560 The fruit is very sweet.
00:10:53.060 And so this is what we usually eat is the fruit.
00:10:57.780 Back in the day, we used to use the insect that would grow on the prickly pear to make color.
00:11:05.240 You would dry it and then crush it and then use it to dye fabric.
00:11:11.200 So we still, a lot of people here in Palestine today still do that,
00:11:15.260 to revive this ancient practice that we've learned from other indigenous communities.
00:11:22.380 And I'm learning, not only me, I think a lot of people are learning
00:11:26.620 that you can actually eat the whole plant and it's really really good so I've been eating that
00:11:33.200 because our followers from Mexico have given me a lot of different recipes I've been eating
00:11:39.280 the whole plant but yeah that sounds really delicious I feel like I've had it once before
00:11:47.060 but it's reminding me of the sweetness this has been such an incredible conversation I know we've
00:11:54.400 gone past our time limit. So I just want to give you the floor to see if there's anything else
00:12:00.000 you feel like you really want to share in this moment before we wrap up this really beautiful
00:12:06.700 conversation. Honestly, first of all, I really want to thank you for this opportunity to have
00:12:14.020 this conversation. It's been really amazing. And I think for anyone listening, there's one thing
00:12:25.160 that I could not say enough times. I think that connection to the land and knowing the plants
00:12:33.120 that surround you and knowing what food your ancestor ate and trying to go back there is
00:12:40.760 probably one of the most important things that we can do as resistance. Today, most people,
00:12:46.980 when they go out to nature, they feel like they're going outside of their home and they're
00:12:53.480 visiting in nature and they're traveling in nature. And this feeling is because we have no idea
00:13:00.440 what are the plants that are surrounding us, what is the land that is around us. Once we learn more
00:13:07.560 and more about the plants, what to forage, what to not forage, what's the name of the plants,
00:13:12.640 the use of the plants, how to use it for medicine, what our ancestors used it for.
00:13:17.780 The moment we know more and more about the land, once we go outside of our cities or villages or
00:13:25.840 towns and go into nature, we would feel like we're going back home. And once we feel like
00:13:36.260 who are going back home when we're in nature I feel like it would be much easier for us to
00:13:42.980 be able to connect to the humans that are around us and to build communities and I think the
00:13:49.860 connection to land no matter where it is once you're connected to the land once you're connected
00:13:55.320 to the plant you can't hate a fellow human anymore this disconnect that we've built around
00:14:03.440 or self is this wouldn't exist anymore uh and you know we would understand that just like plants
00:14:10.260 we are supposed to live a communal life unlike what most of us are living today so i don't know
00:14:19.600 just go out and learn more about your plants and organize and resist and protest and boycott
00:14:26.980 Aya, thank you so much
00:14:29.740 and
00:14:30.220 yeah, I'm really appreciative
00:14:33.760 of you and your connection
00:14:35.460 to the natural world
00:14:37.180 it really shines through your words
00:14:39.180 Thank you really
00:14:41.300 Ayanna, this was absolutely great
00:14:43.520 thank you for this
00:14:44.780 Oh yeah, I'm happy you feel that way
00:14:47.240 I do too
00:14:47.860 Thank you for listening
00:14:56.220 to this episode of Plants Are Political,
00:14:59.520 a collaboration with Olive Odyssey.
00:15:02.360 For the Wild is created by Ayana Young,
00:15:05.440 Erica Echo, Julia Jackson, and Victoria Pham.
00:15:10.400 Music for this series is by Doe Powero,
00:15:13.320 with this episode featuring the tracks
00:15:15.260 Living Through Collapse and For All the Generations.
00:15:20.240 We extend deep gratitude to Aya from Olive Odyssey
00:15:23.800 for their generosity and guidance in the groves.
00:15:27.260 In these lands, where plants stand as witnesses to both heritage and struggle,
00:15:31.820 we honour the enduring resistance and solidarity of the Palestinian people,
00:15:36.300 whose care for the land continues to inspire movements for justice and liberation everywhere.
00:15:42.000 For more information, you can visit our website at www.forthewild.world.
00:15:48.960 And you can discover more details about Olive Odyssey in the episode description.
00:15:53.800 Thank you for listening.
00:16:23.800 Living through glass
00:16:26.600 Grow a garden in the ashes
00:16:44.120 Watch it with your compassion
00:16:47.940 Even when there were no answers
00:16:52.920 Love is in our action
00:16:57.920 Ooh
00:17:05.920 Ooh
00:17:14.920 All of it in half I bow to the entanglement
00:17:20.920 of what we are passing down, of what we've inherited
00:17:29.920 We've been through collapse
00:17:39.920 Yielding to the dance
00:17:49.920 To be both the lion and the dying
00:17:55.320 Is a privilege we can't hide from
00:18:05.920 To defend the sacred holy waters
00:18:16.200 In the break-in, what can we offer?
00:18:37.000 Offer your underwear, offer your underwear
00:18:44.500 All for you and the wind