00:01:15.860A couple of content notes before we get into it.
00:01:18.920There are a lot to be had for today's episode.
00:01:21.140we are going to talk about police violence we are going to talk about cruelty to animals we're
00:01:27.260going to hit on some transphobic rhetoric we're going to talk about miscarriage i feel like
00:01:32.460stefan this episode has everything i feel like you're doing this to get me interested
00:01:37.740it's like a writing prompt it's like how can i how can i tie all these things together
00:01:43.560but then what about you are you familiar with britney dawn i was not before this uh episode
00:01:49.800this was one that was heavily heavily requested of us yeah so i thought i would dig in and see
00:01:55.680what was there and i will tell you what was there was a kernel of a conflict that i understood and
00:02:02.840then a bunch of things that grew up around that sort of kernel of a conflict oh that made me feel
00:02:09.560kind of complicated i have complex feelings on this one so we're gonna invite folks into the
00:02:16.320complexity i don't like these episodes i don't like it when current day events are as complicated
00:02:21.200as history so i thought we would start out with an instagram post as we often do on an influencer
00:02:28.260episode let's take a look at the instagram i'm about to be influenced i am gonna ask you to
00:02:34.560describe the post that i just sent oh wow good god yep uh so this is from an account called
00:02:42.300Real Brittany Dawn. It's a photo of like an extremely thin woman wearing like bikini bottoms0.92
00:02:50.920and a crop top top. And she's sideways to the camera, like mugshot style. So you can see how1.00
00:02:57.680like impossibly flat her stomach is. Like she looks two dimensional. Yeah. The post says,
00:03:04.060facts every female should know. One, every girl has roles when they bend over. Two,1.00
00:03:10.840when someone says you're beautiful, they're not lying. Three, any girl you ask will have a stretch0.99
00:03:17.060mark. They're beyond normal. Four, you should have more confidence. It's actually really0.99
00:03:22.500attractive. Five, you're allowed to fall in love with yourself and you should. Six, it's okay to
00:03:30.080not love every part of your body, but you should. Seven, everyone's boobs are uneven. We just did
00:03:37.300an entire bonus episode about my wax skeleton. So I feel seen by this. Eight, you should be a
00:03:45.020priority, not a second option, last resort, or a backup plan. Nine, you're a woman. That alone1.00
00:03:52.240makes you pretty damn remarkable. Ten, most of all, even on days when you're makeupless slash
00:03:59.120lounging in sweats, you're absolutely beautiful. And it's from 250 weeks ago,
00:04:05.240which is a weird way to do that but i guess that's like five years tell me your thoughts
00:04:11.060michael man i feel so mean saying this but it's like clearly like a thirst photo of like a very
00:04:18.440conventionally attractive woman yeah who's like you don't have to be conventionally attractive
00:04:23.880bestie yep it's very i feel like it's very emblematic of the time that we're in where
00:04:31.420it's all about like loving yourself and body positivity and all this but it's like it's
00:04:36.180oftentimes very like conventionally attractive people telling this to you and so it's like a
00:04:40.900weird like the message and the messenger are just like incongruent but then if you talk about it you0.95
00:04:47.540sound like such a dick yeah you're the one shaming someone for being in a bikini just because she's0.86
00:04:52.440thin yeah it's like that's not really it don't just annoying take it quite in that way i think0.99
00:04:59.360there is a tendency to want to believe that it is dickish to talk about this kind of stuff
00:05:03.920you're like you're like let's be dickish mike no no no no no no mike join me i'm going out on a
00:05:11.740limb baby come on out there's a nice breeze you're like we are going to be skinny shaming today0.99
00:05:16.500mike you know what it's fucking real and we're doing get in loser we're0.98
00:05:21.260no i think look i think there are a few things here that feel like as you have noted like sort0.97
00:05:30.800of a rich text for a cultural moment yeah which is this idea that you should love your body and
00:05:37.880love its flaws and sort of perform a kind of satisfaction with your body right yeah all the
00:05:44.440while continuing to pursue pretty ruthless and continually narrow standards of both beauty and
00:05:53.220health right yeah and when someone my size or shape or someone who looks like me says these
00:05:58.460same things what we are met with is like threats and harassment and like just wild intense awful
00:06:06.120reactions yeah if these are things that resonate with you by all means go to town it feels like it
00:06:12.920is worth noting that those are things that some people are culturally permitted to say and some
00:06:17.540people are not yeah right dude if you're gonna start with number one everybody has roles when
00:06:22.440they bend over show me the roles totally you're showing me a distinct lack of roles i see like
00:06:28.440no body fat right on this person also no stretch marks also no uneven boobs like none of what she
00:06:34.860is mentioning is depicted here well i can't see the boobs i need to i need to see more to determine0.97
00:06:39.980the boobs i'll make a determination at a later time will be our official judge for today that's0.89
00:06:44.820what people go to this show for they're like i want to hear mike comment on women's bodies i want
00:06:48.860to hear a man's opinion noted women body expert michael hobbs uh i mean the other thing i'll say0.99
00:06:57.220about that number one is every girl has roles when they bend over is a very specific that's0.98
00:07:01.820speaking to a specific audience it's not speaking to me right i have roles when i stand up i have0.99
00:07:06.600rolls when i lay down i have rolls in every like there's not a there's not an angle on me or a
00:07:12.040posture on me that doesn't have rolls right so it's normalizing this for a very specific group
00:07:17.960of people who are close to thinness you know i only followed like six people on instagram i had
00:07:23.440to unfollow this guy who i added and he posted like mirror selfies of like i used to be so ashamed
00:07:29.300of my body but like i i finally sort of made peace with the way that i look he's like tall
00:07:35.460and thin and lean and he has like a visible six pack he's always been thin and lean and he's like
00:07:41.460insecure about being skinny but it's like he has like the body that i literally would have killed
00:07:47.480for in high school like for much of my young life it was like i wanted to look like guy pierce in0.83
00:07:52.820memento and he looked like fucking guy pierce in memento and like i don't have any like animus
00:07:57.180toward this person it's totally legible as human behavior to me i just don't want to encounter that0.93
00:08:01.640on social media i don't really that's sort of why i only use instagram to like keep in touch with
00:08:05.940like high school friends and people that i know personally yeah that's my personal instagram
00:08:09.580account as well it's just like straight up like people i know and then comedians
00:08:13.920and a couple of like tattoo artists and your your personal insta is mostly your dog not mostly yeah
00:08:22.360i 100 took a video of him this morning scratching at his food bowl and then i had to talk myself out
00:08:28.900of posting it why you should have posted it aubrey well just i would love to see that who needs to
00:08:33.480see a dog scratching a dog bowl you should have been like one every dog scratches its bowl
00:08:38.760believe in yourself and your dog you got to make it into inspo aubrey and then it's okay to post
00:08:46.580so michael shall we start at the start with britney dawn should i not have clicked on her
00:08:50.960instagram profile i'm on her instagram profile oh no mike oh there's a category in her stories
00:08:55.740for cyber bullying yeah that's probably where we're that's where we're headed i guess we'll get
00:08:59.980there okay britney dawn was born in 1991 in texas there is not a lot out there about her childhood
00:09:07.860or even about her early rise because she is a person who had a lot of pretty organic growth
00:09:15.340or at least organic seeming growth on social media that is born out today she has 442 000
00:09:24.320subscribers on YouTube, 483,000 followers on Instagram, and she has 1.3 million followers
00:09:33.340on TikTok. That's a lot for just like a normal ass person. Most of what we know about Brittany1.00
00:09:37.560Dawn's early life are things that she herself has said in videos and Instagram posts and all of that
00:09:42.820kind of stuff. She reports that she worked as a vet tech in early adulthood for several years.
00:09:48.480from there she gets into a bodybuilding world okay she loses a small amount of weight i think
00:09:56.440the number that i saw in one of her early posts was like 30 pounds oh you love this this is this0.94
00:10:01.520is aubrey catnip like the thin person who lost a tiny amount of weight and then becomes like a
00:10:06.340weight loss influencer absolutely so she like her early instagram posts are an overwhelming number
00:10:12.440of before and after photos of herself split screened okay she starts looking more muscular
00:10:19.300because she's bodybuilding she starts looking more toned and these before and after photos
00:10:25.700of essentially like a thin person who's not particularly toned and then a thin person who's
00:10:30.960thinner really really really take off on social media people eat it up okay i couldn't help
00:10:38.360myself and i google image searched for britney dawn 2014 damn it michael and yeah she's like0.99
00:10:43.660super buff she does look like a bodybuilder and like her before pictures are all just like a0.99
00:10:49.340normal looking person as britney dawn is posting her sort of fitness content she also starts
00:10:54.640talking about her own personal history of what she considers problem drinking and also disordered
00:11:01.920eating she tags her posts with ed recovery hashtags um she includes like a bunch of like
00:11:09.560ed warrior kind of stuff and some of those posts are before and after photos which is
00:11:16.520an extremely wild choice to make to say i'm talking about my ed recovery here are my before
00:11:22.940and after photos which means other people who are looking for eating disorder recovery content are
00:11:29.700going to click through and get these kinds of before and after photos, which they're a very
00:11:34.800clear statement of the before photo is what a body should not look like. And an after photo is what a
00:11:41.080body should look like. Right. And to your point earlier, I would say her before photos are0.89
00:11:47.320something that I absolutely would have loved to have had in like high school and college.
00:11:52.100Yeah. So I'm sending you a quote from a piece from the Dallas Morning News.
00:11:56.300Okay, it says, over five or so years, Brittany Dawn grew her following by posting pictures and videos about her own transformation and a seemingly idyllic lifestyle.
00:12:06.160Her feed is filled with inspirational messages.
00:12:08.880It takes zero dollars to be a decent person with a good heart, images of her modeling fitness wear, healthy snacks, and two-foot pizzas, trips to Hawaii, a pit bull with 10,000 followers of its own, and a Range Rover.
00:12:22.440Many of her followers say her life looked like something they wanted for themselves,
00:12:25.960someone who practiced what she preached.
00:12:28.600Okay, I have no idea where this episode is going, so I'm like, what are we foreshadowing here?
00:20:00.840he keeps saying murica good god okay hasn't been funny or insightful in a solid decade yeah if if
00:20:08.040we two 41 year olds are telling you that it's not funny anymore if we if we're over it wow
00:20:18.000cassidy campbell is at a fitness expo where britney dawn has a booth okay in this video
00:20:27.020he does include a pretty lengthy segment where he's giving context he's playing like videos
00:20:32.320front-facing videos from people on tiktok and instagram talking about their personal experiences
00:20:37.640and how rough it was so like it is sort of signal boosting that stuff but mostly it's just this like
00:20:47.640wild shitty flat caricature yeah of a guy going one two three trump like okay
00:20:55.060he sort of makes his way into this fitness expo he goes up to britney dawn's booth0.97
00:21:00.060he sort of gets her attention and then he absolutely just starts shouting and unloading
00:21:05.980on her what about how she stole money from his daughter and she just wants her money back but
00:21:12.020she won't give the money back it is very uncomfortable and it has the energy of a
00:21:18.800random dude walking up to a lady in a public space yeah shouting at her also what's the
00:21:24.640point of the costume if you're just gonna walk up to somebody and yell at them yeah yeah you could
00:21:28.000have just straight up asked some direct questions like hi without doing this weird deep character
00:21:34.280work yeah yeah this is this is like a tension that i feel like we both think about a lot in
00:21:41.340like doing episodes like this that like whenever there's a female influencer who's kind of
00:21:45.520problematic criticisms tip into like rank misogyny extremely quickly yeah i mean we'll get into it
00:21:53.680there is uh not quite cottage industry but there is definitely like a community of people who are0.95
00:21:59.200just like fuck this lady yeah it becomes anti-fandom really quickly where literally anything0.70
00:22:05.140the person does becomes grounds to criticize them and like the justified critiques or like0.99
00:22:11.100the scale of the justified critiques get buried under all this other stuff yes uh it is full0.97
00:22:18.860bitch-eating crackers territory yeah that's what i was about to say but i didn't know if you knew0.79
00:22:22.440that term because that term's problematic oh michael if you think i'm not listening to your0.98
00:22:25.420bonus episode you're crazy do you want to say what bitching crackers is just in case people don't0.60
00:22:32.600know uh so for those of you who are not uh subscribers to the bonus content of if books0.99
00:22:38.460could kill uh bitch eating crackers is sort of this shorthand for like when you hate someone so0.93
00:22:45.580much that them just eating crackers elicits a negative response from you that you start going1.00
00:22:52.100you're like look at this bitch eating crackers like right okay and it's almost always women1.00
00:22:56.800who this happens to like you see the derangement you see the beginning of like okay there's like0.99
00:23:01.640real reasons to criticize this person and then very quickly you're like wait a minute the things
00:23:05.960that people are criticizing her for are like eating crackers type stuff so this video ends0.57
00:23:11.920up getting 1.8 million views which is absolutely bonkers to me after this happens britney dawn
00:23:20.100posts an apology video a classic of the youtube genre and it is very weird okay and it is very
00:23:29.640wooden okay it has since been taken down but i found an alternate upload and i think maybe you
00:23:39.560and i should watch the first little bit of that too okay even if we end up cutting it out it's
00:23:43.140just a lot of our little watch parties i like our little watch parties too also i just feel like i'm
00:23:48.180like let's stretch out today yeah let's just go for it let's relax let's let's just hang hang out
00:23:53.140in the living room of our show okay here is the internet archive archive.org youtube link i didn't0.58
00:24:01.820know that was possible and it's still plays and everything welcome fuck yes okay this video goes
00:24:08.640out in February of 2019. Hey guys, um, I'm not really sure where to start this video. I am
00:24:18.540scared to film this video. Um, there's some things on the surface that have come to surface that have
00:24:26.380come to fruition that need to be addressed. And so I'm here to do that and I'm here to put
00:24:30.860everything to rest once and for all. Um, I apologize to anyone who feels like they got
00:24:37.300scammed for me and I genuinely promised that my intentions from the start were pure. I wanted to
00:24:42.880help and impact as many women as I could because I feel like this is why I was given this incredible
00:24:47.160platform. When you're given an opportunity like this, you would be stupid not to take it and run0.99
00:24:52.320with it and unfortunately I ran too fast for one person. These claims are coming from years ago0.95
00:24:58.120after I got launched into a business that took off so fast that I didn't know how to mentally
00:25:02.540handle it. I did what I knew to do to the best of my ability. I didn't know what I was signing
00:25:08.160up for simply because being an influencer and running a fitness influencer business
00:25:12.540was not really a thing back then. Therefore, I didn't have much guidance.
00:25:18.800Tell me about your reactions to this so far.
00:25:21.380Yeah, so I guess it's a little wooden. She's reading off of her phone and kind of pausing
00:25:26.240to look at the camera every now and again. Maybe this is like bad of me, but like I am
00:25:31.960in my head comparing her to like all of the other influencers and like all of the other scammy0.85
00:25:38.180bullshit yeah this is obviously indefensible behavior but it's it's like on a grading on a0.83
00:25:43.320curve this is not like that bad yeah i find it difficult to get worked up about this yeah i i0.98
00:25:49.520can understand that and i felt that way at this point in the research as well okay and then my
00:25:54.400feelings changed okay she talks about um getting death threats after the cassidy campbell video
00:26:03.220she talks about getting harassment she talks about all kinds of stuff she's uh pretty widely
00:26:09.720known at this point to be a fairly unreliable narrator or at least an untrusted narrator
00:26:14.600so she's talking about this stuff and people are already like not thrilled with her so to have this
00:26:22.460kind of statement where she's reading off of her phone where this is a side note and a real pet
00:26:27.120peeve. Her dryer is on in the background. Dude, I was wondering what that sounds. I thought it
00:26:31.300was her pit bull. Yeah. Like a pair of overalls or a button or something. It's like clickety
00:26:36.080clickety click. The other thing to know about this video is that she monetized it. Okay. It
00:26:43.000had ads. She included affiliate links. And people are like, why are you making money off of your
00:26:49.680apology for scamming people out of money yeah so it's like not again like i'm not gonna make a
00:26:55.780federal case out of it but i get why it left a bad taste in folks mouths right like i that fair
00:27:01.180it's not good it's not it's not that bad but it's definitely not good within just a few days of that
00:27:06.600on february 13th the britney dawn backlash becomes a story in national news media and britney dawn
00:27:16.380goes on good morning america yeah i have this link in my right hand bar yeah you sure do yeah
00:27:21.780it's like suggesting this to me now britney is sort of briefly quoted on camera in the piece
00:27:26.700and she says quote i jumped into an industry that had no instruction manual i'm basically going
00:27:32.980through uncharted territory and i'm doing the best that i can to the best of my ability i'm using this
00:27:38.620as a tool to learn and to grow as a professional and to move forward all of this only sort of
00:27:45.140serves to amplify customers really troubling stories right someone comes forward in all of
00:27:52.340this media and says uh that she was very thin at the time that she started with britney dawn0.94
00:27:59.140when she decided to stop doing the britney dawn routine she was at 80 pounds oh wow another0.64
00:28:06.500customer disclosed that she had anorexia and was still put on a quote-unquote personalized plan
00:28:12.540of uh 1245 calories paired with high intensity interval training another person uh said that
00:28:23.880they weighed around 200 pounds when they were uh doing sort of britney dawn's program and that they
00:28:31.060passed out from inadequate nutrition in november of that year november of 2019 so we're fast
00:28:39.720forwarding like nine months, she announces that the focus of her social media presence is changing.
00:28:47.920She says that health and fitness are important to her, but that her identity is shifting and now
00:28:53.900her identity is in Christ. Okay. Her content shifts very quickly from primarily fitness and
00:29:02.540weight loss content to evangelical content that i would say is even niche within evangelical
00:29:10.460spaces oh really there's a real pentecostal sort of tenor to what she's doing so she's like she's
00:29:16.360in a tent she's doing revival stuff she's in her range rover filming videos uh on her iphone camera
00:29:26.200so we're going from here's how to order a low calorie drink at starbucks and like here's the
00:29:33.380lunges that i'm doing to the video that i just sent you okay she is posting this around joe
00:29:42.720biden's inauguration that's when this video comes out that direction okay so the thumbnail is like
00:29:51.300her looking concerned in that like a youtube thumbnail like i'm reacting to this way
00:29:55.980and then the big caption in the thumbnail is this is unsettling
00:30:00.940i don't care if you're red blue republican democrat i don't care what state you live in
00:30:09.000i don't care what color state you're the state that you live in is i don't care about any of
00:30:12.800that this isn't a video about my political stance this is not a video about who i voted for or
00:30:17.860anything regards to that this is a video about what the holy spirit is revealing to me and so
00:30:22.120many others in this day and age and things are shifting and they're shifting fast the first
00:30:26.500thing that i found incredibly disturbing uh yesterday was during the inauguration when lady
00:30:32.060gaga was up there um if you don't already know lady gaga is tied into witchcraft i am going to
00:30:38.860try to put some information here on the screen as i talk sharing this and stating this and show you
00:30:43.560guys the facts if you dig even even just an inch deep you will find this it's it's out there like
00:30:49.080it's not trying to be hidden she has made this known the performance that she put on yesterday
00:30:53.440was more than disturbing um it reminded me of hunger games from the get-go uh and then on top
00:30:59.260of that on top of her whole outfit her whole get-up she was also wearing the dove of peace1.00
00:31:04.260symbol also in hunger games a little disturbing lots of red flags going on there lady gaga is0.96
00:31:10.520also tied to marina amabrovic now if you don't know who she is google her name she is a witch
00:31:15.840they're both into spirit cooking and soul cooking and yesterday the slogan for them was fight for
00:31:21.620the soul of our nation biden said that he is going to reverse any and all laws that were made or put
00:31:28.380into place against abortion when he gets in the white house that he wants to do away with gender
00:31:33.680terms like niece, nephew, brother, sister, mother, father. I'm sorry. What? How are people not seeing
00:31:41.240these red flags? The opening prayer in the Senate two weeks ago, I believe it was two or three weeks
00:31:45.780ago in itself was disturbing. Not only, not only were they praying to all these other gods, but
00:31:51.780they closed that prayer out with amen and a woman. I'm sorry. Do you even know what amen means? Do you
00:31:58.900even know what amen means. But we live in this culture that is so sensitive and so easily offended
00:32:05.160by anything and everything, including a prayer now, that our government, who doesn't want to offend
00:32:10.320anyone, is now mixing and molding God's word for what they want it to be instead of submitting to
00:32:16.880his authority of who he is and who he has always been. And I just want to say this, if you are
00:32:21.680offended by anything that I say in this video, I really, as a sister in Christ, want you to take
00:32:25.880that offense to the feet of jesus and ask him ask the holy spirit to reveal these things to you
00:32:30.480because if you're following the same jesus that i am he will i love that the clip that we just
00:32:38.120watched started with her being like marina abramovich is a witch yeah lady gaga was dressed
00:32:45.420like the hunger games and then it ends with her going people are so offended by everything these
00:32:51.600i know like an outfit that reminded you of a movie what's happening the thing is is hunger
00:32:56.240games that's not even like a sacrilegious text that's not like that's not like witchcraft and
00:33:01.800that's just like a sci-fi movie yeah there's no occult element to it so i don't know what i don't
00:33:06.860know what her i don't i don't know i mean to be fair lady yaga's outfit did look a little hunger
00:33:11.600games but like that doesn't like mean anything also the symbol in the hunger games was the
00:33:17.240mockingjay not a dove a dove just only always means peace yeah that's like a christian thing
00:33:23.200there is so much in this video that we can go line by line aubrey we can just do this all day
00:33:29.560particularly i uh wanted to dig in with you on uh biden wants to do away with gendered terms like
00:33:37.140niece that's actually true but all of the vowels will be replaced by x's nix fuse i love it i love
00:33:43.140it when these deranged religious people say stuff about like language and like pronouns and stuff
00:33:49.440that just like literally doesn't make sense but like they they want to do away with pronouns
00:33:53.560like that in english that would actually make it very difficult to communicate i don't think
00:33:57.440anyone's actually yeah proposing that well and also just like as a you know former public policy
00:34:04.200person when she's like he wants to do away with all these names for nieces and wife and husband
00:34:10.920and a nephew my brain is trying so hard to figure out what policy that would be yeah tell me the
00:34:18.660mechanics of that britney what are the mechanics by which someone could ban how do you stop people
00:34:24.640from saying words i mean we're we're so awash in this stuff that it is almost campy at this point
00:34:30.260but like this is someone who's like become unglued from reality on some level and she's0.99
00:34:36.100she's clearly reading like far right facebook group ass yeah news sources that just say shit0.99
00:34:44.240that is just doesn't make any fucking sense it's like yeah the the democrats want to ban all0.99
00:34:48.660religions yeah and then the weird stuff with the symbolism is just like pure q anon it's pure q0.92
00:34:54.860anon it's also pure national treasure yeah they put the symbol on the dollar bill this is a0.98
00:35:02.640fucking this is a generation that read too much fucking encyclopedia brown growing up and we all0.98
00:35:07.600think this is the way to like solve crimes and too much dan brown i the funny thing is i i love0.99
00:35:13.860the da vinci code so much because it's just openly such fucking garbage and like in a really fun0.96
00:35:20.560way like i feel like the writer kind of knows that it's garbage and it's just like0.99
00:35:25.260very well executed garbage listen i'm over here dunking on national treasure and i 1000.90
00:35:32.300percent watched national treasure book of secrets last week so around this time that britney dawn0.79
00:35:41.080is shifting her content she's also shifting what she is selling to her followers okay and she starts
00:35:47.400selling tickets to religious retreats okay that makes sense where she baptizes attendees that's
00:35:54.660actually that's a way better business model the reaction from at least the most vocal sort of
00:36:00.620christian folks responding to this is very negative charging someone to be baptized like
00:36:06.720what are we doing especially when that someone isn't clergy feels really wild i mean sure but
00:36:15.940also like it's a weird case to like all of a sudden be offended at the intersection between
00:36:21.160commerce and christianity guys someone hasn't heard of joel osteen yeah britney dawn is not0.98
00:36:28.480like even in the top 1000 of like fucking mega church ass grifters doing this shit so this may0.98
00:36:36.440seem like a hard turn from sort of fitness content into pentecostal leaning evangelical0.99
00:36:43.360content but christian fitness has a surprisingly long history oh you are doing context here we go
00:36:53.920so the modern roots of that connection stretch back to the victorian era there's a book called
00:37:02.300british manly exercises my favorite kind that is published in 1837 and becomes a hit okay one
00:37:12.220scottish medical practitioner founded the british institute of physical training in 1889
00:37:19.800his exercise program consisted of what he called physical jerks oh what which feels to me like
00:37:28.700how you would describe dancing in the footloose town
00:37:32.120so all of this evolves into a movement called muscular christianity
00:37:41.580i am taking it that you have not heard of muscular christianity no because if i heard it i would
00:37:47.820assumed that that was like supposed to be a metaphor. Like it's muscular. Like the spirit
00:37:51.160of Christ is like making our beliefs more powerful, but they mean like literally physical
00:37:55.580muscles. Like you're covered in like veins and protein. Absolutely. The idea behind muscular
00:38:01.360Christianity primarily focuses on men and masculinity. And the idea is that your body
00:38:08.720is a gift and that it needs to be trained to do the work of Christ. Things like protecting those
00:38:16.500who are perceived as not being able to protect themselves things like missionary work and so
00:38:21.800forth professor richard andrew meyer outlined six criteria for muscular christianity abs lats
00:38:31.040quads craps fraps number one a man's body is given to him by god two to be trained three
00:38:41.380to be brought into subjection what four to be used for protection of the weak five to be used
00:38:51.080for the quote advancement of all righteous causes and six to be used for subduing the earth which
00:38:59.720god has given to the children of men subduing the earth the anxiety at this point is like
00:39:04.720we're working in these factories uh and it's making us soft we used to work the field so this
00:39:10.500idea of like subduing the earth is like we have to get back to our sort of masculine roots of0.98
00:39:16.020working the land god it's always the same shit it's the same shit we see now right it's like oh0.95
00:39:22.460we left the land we used to be pure it's like all this sort of like michael paulin stuff authenticity0.99
00:39:28.200and get your yogurt from a dairy farm direct from the farmer it's all the same shit forever0.97
00:39:33.840the other thing that's all the same shit is that muscular christianity also sort of gave way to a0.99
00:39:40.340set of beliefs that, um, are with us still today, which is the idea that physical strength led to0.99
00:39:48.160strong character and strong morals, right? That if you are training in the gym, that doesn't just
00:39:54.680mean you're training in the gym. It means you have tenacity and a work ethic and right. Like
00:39:59.140there are all sorts of sort of like character compliments that we add on to the simple act of
00:40:04.900going to the gym or not going to the gym. Right. It's turning us into a metaphor, basically.
00:40:08.760So muscular Christianity spread through the U.S. as well, in part as a sort of reactionary politics, right? Women were gaining more social and political rights. A wave of immigrants were sort of shifting culture and the job market. And all of that also led to a different sense, but like linked to the sort of English version of white masculinity in crisis, right?0.99
00:40:36.800always pussification of men this is like the thing that men have been fucking whining about0.96
00:40:40.780for like 200 years straight up tucker carlson yeah exactly muscular christianity is actually0.99
00:40:47.140how we got the ymca what the song no god michael i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding
00:40:53.700i mean it kind of is like this is this is why we have gay men fetishizing but yes yes the ymca
00:41:01.880built its first gym facility in 1869 in new york and before that it really was just a christian
00:41:10.360association that didn't have nearly as much to do with athleticism right okay muscular christianity
00:41:16.340continues to sort of influence christian fitness programs today we still have programs like losing
00:41:24.060to live the daniel plan firm believer body for god holy fit body temple wellness and body gospel
00:41:34.220right like there are tons of these you have a bunch of these in your diet book collection i
00:41:39.040know because we've talked about a couple of them i don't have firm believer that's by far the best
00:41:43.820one all of this also ties into christian weight loss programs i read a great piece in christianity
00:41:49.080today, um, about this sort of concept of like a fitness driven church. They referenced a 1957
00:41:57.260bestseller called pray your weight away, which argued that quote, if our bodies really are to
00:42:05.420be temples of the Holy spirit, we had best get them down to the size God intended. Yeah. God
00:42:11.840does not care what size you are. This is dumb as shit. This timeless being is like,1.00
00:42:19.080looking down and it's like oh your body fat's like eight percent it should be five percent0.95
00:42:23.040cheryl's put on a few god so in the tradition of muscular christianity britney dawn starts her
00:42:32.500own ministry called she lives freed okay according to the guardian her ministry is a 501c3 registered
00:42:40.160nonprofit. As part of that, she launches a podcast actually earlier this year in 2023
00:42:47.380called Chiseled and Called. That's not even good, Brittany. She starts holding religious retreats
00:42:56.160and her retreats go for up to $650 for a weekend retreat, which is considerably higher than other
00:43:04.060sort of like christian spiritual retreats right she also has a bunch of merch she sells a set of
00:43:11.020bible highlighters what why would you need special highlighters that's genius i like her now i'm0.98
00:43:19.920sorry it's such a blatant grift you have to almost respect it fucking bible highlighters0.97
00:43:27.540she's just taking like a razor blade and scratching off the part where it says sharpie0.98
00:54:37.040because the ACLU filed suit against him
00:54:40.800for excessive force against a black man.0.99
00:54:43.520oh my fucking god so the lawsuit was settled out of court but the dash cam footage was released1.00
00:54:51.680it very clearly shows a black man standing still his hands in the air and fully visible0.99
00:54:57.940a group of officers sort of tear up in police cars uh and approach him so britney dawn's husband
00:55:06.560jordan nelson is the first officer to reach him and what he does is kick his legs out from under
00:55:12.560him shove him into the sidewalk and four other officers descend on him and hold him down jesus
00:55:20.160christ a few minutes later on that same video he reenacts the whole thing to show off to his
00:55:28.840fellow officers off good god while this man is still lying on the sidewalk and had yet to receive
00:55:34.860any medical attention jesus christ it's like the opposite of bitching crackers this is like the1.00
00:55:40.100most odious fucking shit. It is absolutely atrocious. After all of this happens, Jordan1.00
00:55:47.860Nelson filed for a protective order against the dude he beat. Oh, God. Absolutely deranged behavior
00:55:58.220is what's happening here. I guess the reason he passed the background check is because they
00:56:02.380settled out of court. So there's no like he wasn't all a background check would find is if
00:56:06.480he was convicted of something but he wasn't convicted of anything partly because he was like
00:56:10.240an agent of the state yeah it's like a huge loophole in the system right that if somebody
00:56:14.660uses power to subjugate somebody else that wouldn't show up as a red flag and now this0.99
00:56:19.960fucking couple is fostering a black child right like just boy oh boy oh boy i can't say enough0.99
00:56:27.820about how extremely reasonable a concern this is yeah and it leads to quite a bit of talk about1.00
00:56:34.240um how much this reflects the brokenness of the foster care system and hard agree right god this
00:56:42.500episode was so fun and breezy it was just like a run-of-the-mill like christian megachurch grifter
00:56:47.560remember when you were like i like her i know and now it's just like oh it's like all of like
00:56:55.220the worst shit in american society yeah yeah has she has she said anything about the the video of0.98
00:57:01.320her husband? Not that I found. Just the like, don't believe everything you read, which is like,1.00
00:57:05.840okay. God, it's such a fucking obvious thing to say, but it's like the idea of a Christianity0.97
00:57:10.840that wants you to be thin, but doesn't mind you using your power as an agent of the state0.99
00:57:17.120to beat somebody up. It's just like not a, that's not a serious morality.
00:57:24.080Quite a bit of this comes to a head in a way that really surprised me.
00:57:29.060OK, the state of Texas announced in February of last year that it was suing Brittany Dawn for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a million dollars in damages for, quote, deceptive trade practices.
00:57:41.240OK, the grounds for the suit are specifically that Brittany Dawn particularly focused on targeting people with eating disorders.
00:57:52.880Oh, wow. People who were clearly intentionally misled and taken in by the frequent implication
00:58:01.020that Brittany Dawn was trained to work with people with EDs or that she had a level of
00:58:06.640expertise that they could trust. Right. They also allege some other little things that didn't come
00:58:12.280up in the online tossing out the net to gather things up that I did. The actual lawsuit
00:58:18.380includes in the damages that they say that she charged shipping for pdfs nice that's actually
00:58:27.180pretty good that's pretty good let's write that down aubrey let's keep that let's keep that in
00:58:32.160our back pocket for when we cash in the trial gets scheduled there's over a year of build-up
00:58:39.000it's delayed a couple of times it ends up coming to a close without a single day of the trial
00:58:46.340because she settles out of court and two weeks later britney dawn makes a video saying she's
00:58:52.300off social media that the lord is calling her to a period of spiritual rest okay even though she's
00:58:59.660off social media she has more followers than ever on tiktok wow despite everything she still seems
00:59:08.400to be accruing followers and she still seems to be profiting it's also such a weird like internet
00:59:14.800story because if it wasn't for the final twist like the final thing that happens the video of
00:59:22.520her husband this would mostly be a story of like something on the internet that makes me kind of
00:59:29.420uncomfortable yeah like someone who is annoying or tacky or grifty or even like genuinely bad
00:59:36.480but then a community forms just talking constantly about how bad this person is right and it it seems
00:59:44.260like they finally you know years into this found a good reason yeah to dislike her yeah like both
00:59:52.860of them are such archetypes in addition to being who they are right they are also sort of uh these
01:00:01.300kind of effigies of like this kind of dude and this kind of lady and they sort of come to represent
01:00:09.480again, like not just what they personally are doing, but these whole systems that they are
01:00:16.240happily and proudly contributing to that are terrible to folks who are on the downside of
01:00:23.220power. Right. Yeah. And also her boobs are asymmetrical. Oh, I feel like it's okay. It's
01:00:28.500okay. It's okay to make fun of her for that. Now I can be problematic because she sucks.
01:00:32.780She sucks. So all bets are off. That's how principles work. That's how it works. I can1.00