Maintenance Phase - June 20, 2023


Brittany Dawn

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1 hour and 1 minute

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10,023

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208

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38

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00:00:00.000 welcome to maintenance phase the podcast that so loves the world that we've given our only
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00:01:00.320 Michael.
00:01:01.120 Aubrey.
00:01:01.840 Today.
00:01:02.800 Today.
00:01:03.360 We are talking about Brittany Dawn.
00:01:06.580 I'm so excited because all, literally all I know is that there's something, something,
00:01:11.480 Christian weight loss, something, something.
00:01:13.500 I've never heard of this person. 1.00
00:01:15.100 Bless.
00:01:15.860 A couple of content notes before we get into it.
00:01:18.920 There are a lot to be had for today's episode.
00:01:21.140 we are going to talk about police violence we are going to talk about cruelty to animals we're
00:01:27.260 going to hit on some transphobic rhetoric we're going to talk about miscarriage i feel like
00:01:32.460 stefan this episode has everything i feel like you're doing this to get me interested
00:01:37.740 it's like a writing prompt it's like how can i how can i tie all these things together
00:01:43.560 but then what about you are you familiar with britney dawn i was not before this uh episode
00:01:49.800 this was one that was heavily heavily requested of us yeah so i thought i would dig in and see
00:01:55.680 what was there and i will tell you what was there was a kernel of a conflict that i understood and
00:02:02.840 then a bunch of things that grew up around that sort of kernel of a conflict oh that made me feel
00:02:09.560 kind of complicated i have complex feelings on this one so we're gonna invite folks into the
00:02:16.320 complexity i don't like these episodes i don't like it when current day events are as complicated
00:02:21.200 as history so i thought we would start out with an instagram post as we often do on an influencer
00:02:28.260 episode let's take a look at the instagram i'm about to be influenced i am gonna ask you to
00:02:34.560 describe the post that i just sent oh wow good god yep uh so this is from an account called
00:02:42.300 Real Brittany Dawn. It's a photo of like an extremely thin woman wearing like bikini bottoms 0.92
00:02:50.920 and a crop top top. And she's sideways to the camera, like mugshot style. So you can see how 1.00
00:02:57.680 like impossibly flat her stomach is. Like she looks two dimensional. Yeah. The post says,
00:03:04.060 facts every female should know. One, every girl has roles when they bend over. Two, 1.00
00:03:10.840 when someone says you're beautiful, they're not lying. Three, any girl you ask will have a stretch 0.99
00:03:17.060 mark. They're beyond normal. Four, you should have more confidence. It's actually really 0.99
00:03:22.500 attractive. Five, you're allowed to fall in love with yourself and you should. Six, it's okay to
00:03:30.080 not love every part of your body, but you should. Seven, everyone's boobs are uneven. We just did
00:03:37.300 an entire bonus episode about my wax skeleton. So I feel seen by this. Eight, you should be a
00:03:45.020 priority, not a second option, last resort, or a backup plan. Nine, you're a woman. That alone 1.00
00:03:52.240 makes you pretty damn remarkable. Ten, most of all, even on days when you're makeupless slash
00:03:59.120 lounging in sweats, you're absolutely beautiful. And it's from 250 weeks ago,
00:04:05.240 which is a weird way to do that but i guess that's like five years tell me your thoughts
00:04:11.060 michael man i feel so mean saying this but it's like clearly like a thirst photo of like a very
00:04:18.440 conventionally attractive woman yeah who's like you don't have to be conventionally attractive
00:04:23.880 bestie yep it's very i feel like it's very emblematic of the time that we're in where
00:04:31.420 it's all about like loving yourself and body positivity and all this but it's like it's
00:04:36.180 oftentimes very like conventionally attractive people telling this to you and so it's like a
00:04:40.900 weird like the message and the messenger are just like incongruent but then if you talk about it you 0.95
00:04:47.540 sound like such a dick yeah you're the one shaming someone for being in a bikini just because she's 0.86
00:04:52.440 thin yeah it's like that's not really it don't just annoying take it quite in that way i think 0.99
00:04:59.360 there is a tendency to want to believe that it is dickish to talk about this kind of stuff
00:05:03.920 you're like you're like let's be dickish mike no no no no no no mike join me i'm going out on a
00:05:11.740 limb baby come on out there's a nice breeze you're like we are going to be skinny shaming today 0.99
00:05:16.500 mike you know what it's fucking real and we're doing get in loser we're 0.98
00:05:21.260 no i think look i think there are a few things here that feel like as you have noted like sort 0.97
00:05:30.800 of a rich text for a cultural moment yeah which is this idea that you should love your body and
00:05:37.880 love its flaws and sort of perform a kind of satisfaction with your body right yeah all the
00:05:44.440 while continuing to pursue pretty ruthless and continually narrow standards of both beauty and
00:05:53.220 health right yeah and when someone my size or shape or someone who looks like me says these
00:05:58.460 same things what we are met with is like threats and harassment and like just wild intense awful
00:06:06.120 reactions yeah if these are things that resonate with you by all means go to town it feels like it
00:06:12.920 is worth noting that those are things that some people are culturally permitted to say and some
00:06:17.540 people are not yeah right dude if you're gonna start with number one everybody has roles when
00:06:22.440 they bend over show me the roles totally you're showing me a distinct lack of roles i see like
00:06:28.440 no body fat right on this person also no stretch marks also no uneven boobs like none of what she
00:06:34.860 is mentioning is depicted here well i can't see the boobs i need to i need to see more to determine 0.97
00:06:39.980 the boobs i'll make a determination at a later time will be our official judge for today that's 0.89
00:06:44.820 what people go to this show for they're like i want to hear mike comment on women's bodies i want
00:06:48.860 to hear a man's opinion noted women body expert michael hobbs uh i mean the other thing i'll say 0.99
00:06:57.220 about that number one is every girl has roles when they bend over is a very specific that's 0.98
00:07:01.820 speaking to a specific audience it's not speaking to me right i have roles when i stand up i have 0.99
00:07:06.600 rolls when i lay down i have rolls in every like there's not a there's not an angle on me or a
00:07:12.040 posture on me that doesn't have rolls right so it's normalizing this for a very specific group
00:07:17.960 of people who are close to thinness you know i only followed like six people on instagram i had
00:07:23.440 to unfollow this guy who i added and he posted like mirror selfies of like i used to be so ashamed
00:07:29.300 of my body but like i i finally sort of made peace with the way that i look he's like tall
00:07:35.460 and thin and lean and he has like a visible six pack he's always been thin and lean and he's like
00:07:41.460 insecure about being skinny but it's like he has like the body that i literally would have killed
00:07:47.480 for in high school like for much of my young life it was like i wanted to look like guy pierce in 0.83
00:07:52.820 memento and he looked like fucking guy pierce in memento and like i don't have any like animus
00:07:57.180 toward this person it's totally legible as human behavior to me i just don't want to encounter that 0.93
00:08:01.640 on social media i don't really that's sort of why i only use instagram to like keep in touch with
00:08:05.940 like high school friends and people that i know personally yeah that's my personal instagram
00:08:09.580 account as well it's just like straight up like people i know and then comedians
00:08:13.920 and a couple of like tattoo artists and your your personal insta is mostly your dog not mostly yeah
00:08:22.360 i 100 took a video of him this morning scratching at his food bowl and then i had to talk myself out
00:08:28.900 of posting it why you should have posted it aubrey well just i would love to see that who needs to
00:08:33.480 see a dog scratching a dog bowl you should have been like one every dog scratches its bowl
00:08:38.760 believe in yourself and your dog you got to make it into inspo aubrey and then it's okay to post
00:08:46.580 so michael shall we start at the start with britney dawn should i not have clicked on her
00:08:50.960 instagram profile i'm on her instagram profile oh no mike oh there's a category in her stories
00:08:55.740 for cyber bullying yeah that's probably where we're that's where we're headed i guess we'll get
00:08:59.980 there okay britney dawn was born in 1991 in texas there is not a lot out there about her childhood
00:09:07.860 or even about her early rise because she is a person who had a lot of pretty organic growth
00:09:15.340 or at least organic seeming growth on social media that is born out today she has 442 000
00:09:24.320 subscribers on YouTube, 483,000 followers on Instagram, and she has 1.3 million followers
00:09:33.340 on TikTok. That's a lot for just like a normal ass person. Most of what we know about Brittany 1.00
00:09:37.560 Dawn's early life are things that she herself has said in videos and Instagram posts and all of that
00:09:42.820 kind of stuff. She reports that she worked as a vet tech in early adulthood for several years.
00:09:48.480 from there she gets into a bodybuilding world okay she loses a small amount of weight i think
00:09:56.440 the number that i saw in one of her early posts was like 30 pounds oh you love this this is this 0.94
00:10:01.520 is aubrey catnip like the thin person who lost a tiny amount of weight and then becomes like a
00:10:06.340 weight loss influencer absolutely so she like her early instagram posts are an overwhelming number
00:10:12.440 of before and after photos of herself split screened okay she starts looking more muscular
00:10:19.300 because she's bodybuilding she starts looking more toned and these before and after photos
00:10:25.700 of essentially like a thin person who's not particularly toned and then a thin person who's
00:10:30.960 thinner really really really take off on social media people eat it up okay i couldn't help
00:10:38.360 myself and i google image searched for britney dawn 2014 damn it michael and yeah she's like 0.99
00:10:43.660 super buff she does look like a bodybuilder and like her before pictures are all just like a 0.99
00:10:49.340 normal looking person as britney dawn is posting her sort of fitness content she also starts
00:10:54.640 talking about her own personal history of what she considers problem drinking and also disordered
00:11:01.920 eating she tags her posts with ed recovery hashtags um she includes like a bunch of like
00:11:09.560 ed warrior kind of stuff and some of those posts are before and after photos which is
00:11:16.520 an extremely wild choice to make to say i'm talking about my ed recovery here are my before
00:11:22.940 and after photos which means other people who are looking for eating disorder recovery content are
00:11:29.700 going to click through and get these kinds of before and after photos, which they're a very
00:11:34.800 clear statement of the before photo is what a body should not look like. And an after photo is what a
00:11:41.080 body should look like. Right. And to your point earlier, I would say her before photos are 0.89
00:11:47.320 something that I absolutely would have loved to have had in like high school and college.
00:11:52.100 Yeah. So I'm sending you a quote from a piece from the Dallas Morning News.
00:11:56.300 Okay, it says, over five or so years, Brittany Dawn grew her following by posting pictures and videos about her own transformation and a seemingly idyllic lifestyle.
00:12:06.160 Her feed is filled with inspirational messages.
00:12:08.880 It takes zero dollars to be a decent person with a good heart, images of her modeling fitness wear, healthy snacks, and two-foot pizzas, trips to Hawaii, a pit bull with 10,000 followers of its own, and a Range Rover.
00:12:22.440 Many of her followers say her life looked like something they wanted for themselves,
00:12:25.960 someone who practiced what she preached.
00:12:28.600 Okay, I have no idea where this episode is going, so I'm like, what are we foreshadowing here?
00:12:35.160 We're not foreshadowing much here.
00:12:36.980 This is genuinely like a fast forward. 1.00
00:12:39.600 This is a wealthy, thin, white woman who sort of has the world by the string, 1.00
00:12:44.420 and she's doing very standard-issue influencer stuff. 1.00
00:12:48.160 Aubrey, there is nothing standard-issue about two-foot pizzas.
00:12:50.760 Okay. Okay. I don't even know what that is. As her following grows during this time,
00:12:57.120 she starts offering services to her followers for a fee. Oh, she starts offering personalized meal
00:13:04.620 plans. Okay. She offers macronutrient checks. She offers personal training and one-on-one
00:13:11.900 fitness coaching. Okay. All of the services have different prices, but the personalized meal plans
00:13:17.720 go for up to three hundred dollars oh okay which is a fair amount of money for a plan and not any 0.87
00:13:25.200 food i was just gonna say it sounds low but i'm also my my brain is so fucking warped by doing so
00:13:30.840 many of these episodes on these grifters that's so much less than a pete evans yeah exactly we've 0.78
00:13:37.160 looked into so many other fucking weirdos yeah yeah britney dawn has claimed that she helped 0.53
00:13:43.900 5,000 clients during this time. But when she was later asked to confirm that she didn't know how 0.98
00:13:50.440 many clients she had and neither did her manager. So I'm guessing that's an aspirational scale. I'm
00:13:56.120 guessing that skews a little larger than what she actually did. It's wild that you can just do this
00:14:00.140 by like being like a hot lady who posts on Instagram. So all of this is happening. Folks are
00:14:06.280 paying her for meal plans all of that kind of stuff and in 2018 and into 2019 her customers
00:14:14.320 start to connect through a facebook group and as they start posting about their experiences
00:14:20.480 they figure a few things out the first thing that they figure out is that their personalized
00:14:26.180 nutrition plans were not personalized at all of course uh that's like that dude who was making
00:14:32.840 personalized playlists for ladies that he met on the internet and then it turned out they were all
00:14:37.200 just the same playlist it's all just an endless loop of hey there delilah or something
00:14:41.760 it's connor oberst and they all they all should have seen right through it they also figure out
00:14:49.020 that their one-on-one support which some of the plans build like you get you know personal support
00:14:54.360 from britney were a lot of generic texts that were like you got this girl oh hell yeah so she's
00:15:02.820 automated all this shit it sure seems like it there are also funny little details about this 0.82
00:15:09.280 one customer ordered something that came with a packet of that said it came with 21 amazing 0.98
00:15:14.720 recipes and the packet arrived and it only had 11 recipes in it nice i wanted them to be like
00:15:22.220 there was not only was it not 21 amazing recipes it was just 11 recipes and they were just okay
00:15:27.600 the next thing that they figure out is that many customers had previously dealt with eating
00:15:36.520 disorders and signed on because they felt like this was a safe way to do what nearly everyone
00:15:43.780 feels pressure to do right which is sort of quote-unquote get healthy which just means get
00:15:47.560 thin man you know you have a bad business model when like it works until your customers start
00:15:54.600 speaking with one another it's a bad sign so folks start going back through her old posts
00:16:01.660 and screen grabbing instagram posts that show her using hashtags like ed warrior eating disorder
00:16:09.020 warrior and also hashtags in the same post like be healthy and skip dinner yeah that's not that's
00:16:17.320 not what i would classify as ed recovery necessarily correct uh i would describe that with the term ed
00:16:23.220 somewhere in there they also figure out that some of them have requested refunds when they sort of
00:16:29.980 figured this out and they were like oh well if it's not personalized give me my money back what
00:16:33.880 those requests for refunds rarely even got a response email okay those who sort of escalated
00:16:42.660 to complaining on social media got an even clearer message their comments were deleted and their
00:16:47.800 accounts were blocked okay by britney dawn another good sign the handful of customers who were
00:16:53.340 offered refunds were offered either partial refunds or were asked to sign a non-disclosure 0.99
00:17:02.140 agreement oh wow getting their up to three hundred dollar okay uh-huh the funny thing is she could 1.00
00:17:08.980 actually hide behind like technicalities and be like well it was personalized you just happen to 1.00
00:17:14.540 have the same characteristics as every single other person unfortunately there's a path to this
00:17:21.240 that i can sort of understand which is like up to 5 000 clients is a lot of people to manage
00:17:28.620 especially if you're not trained especially if you don't have staff yeah like i think there's
00:17:32.380 a good faith way of getting here i don't know that britney dawn took that good faith way to
00:17:36.880 get here right but usually if you sort of take that route you would go i'm so sorry let me level
00:17:41.780 with you here's what happened yeah of course you get a refund this is what we're gonna do when we're 0.63
00:17:46.320 on cameo finally we're like you're all getting the same fucking thing one of my favorite late 0.63
00:17:51.500 night rabbit holes to fall down on the internet is uh cameo pricing oh yeah same i know it's so 0.85
00:17:58.700 fascinating i know to be like how much do you think chris harrison the disgraced former host
00:18:05.740 of the bachelor charges yeah yeah and then my guess is always wrong because it's like
00:18:09.900 five hundred dollars and there's weird like trump world people on there whose like prices are
00:18:16.640 shockingly high and you're like does someone want a happy birthday message from michael flynn
00:18:21.920 hey it's the mooch hey congratulations on your retirement okay so folks start talking about
00:18:30.020 their experiences in this facebook group and start figuring out that no one's getting what 0.87
00:18:34.280 they paid for and also very few people are getting refunds so it starts to leak out more broadly
00:18:40.300 right folks start commenting on her public posts being like hey can you give me a refund people 0.99
00:18:45.800 start talking about it more online and it gains so much steam that a youtube prankster cassidy
00:18:56.400 campbell creates a video to prank britney dawn these were the people that would just like walk
00:19:03.400 up to people in grocery stores and be like and then like scare them yeah it's like oh gotcha
00:19:08.840 it's like yeah it's just a human reaction to you being a prick and like ruining someone's day
00:19:13.480 congratulations we are absolutely not going to watch this video because i understand what your
00:19:19.100 discomfort threshold is and this is like 60 points above that oh really it is so uncomfortable now i
00:19:27.200 kind of want to watch it aubrey michael what's it like describe it to me first let me know let me
00:19:32.060 know what i'm to expect okay so the video is absolutely bizarre okay cassidy campbell is
00:19:39.220 sort of dressed up he's got a costume it's a very weird sort of broad caricature of this
00:19:47.300 cartoonish idea of small town conservative bigots the look is very tiger king i'm already
00:19:54.020 uncomfortable mullet baseball hat extremely camo extremely uncomfortable handlebar mustache okay
00:20:00.840 he keeps saying murica good god okay hasn't been funny or insightful in a solid decade yeah if if
00:20:08.040 we two 41 year olds are telling you that it's not funny anymore if we if we're over it wow
00:20:18.000 cassidy campbell is at a fitness expo where britney dawn has a booth okay in this video
00:20:27.020 he does include a pretty lengthy segment where he's giving context he's playing like videos
00:20:32.320 front-facing videos from people on tiktok and instagram talking about their personal experiences
00:20:37.640 and how rough it was so like it is sort of signal boosting that stuff but mostly it's just this like
00:20:47.640 wild shitty flat caricature yeah of a guy going one two three trump like okay
00:20:55.060 he sort of makes his way into this fitness expo he goes up to britney dawn's booth 0.97
00:21:00.060 he sort of gets her attention and then he absolutely just starts shouting and unloading
00:21:05.980 on her what about how she stole money from his daughter and she just wants her money back but
00:21:12.020 she won't give the money back it is very uncomfortable and it has the energy of a
00:21:18.800 random dude walking up to a lady in a public space yeah shouting at her also what's the
00:21:24.640 point of the costume if you're just gonna walk up to somebody and yell at them yeah yeah you could
00:21:28.000 have just straight up asked some direct questions like hi without doing this weird deep character
00:21:34.280 work yeah yeah this is this is like a tension that i feel like we both think about a lot in
00:21:41.340 like doing episodes like this that like whenever there's a female influencer who's kind of
00:21:45.520 problematic criticisms tip into like rank misogyny extremely quickly yeah i mean we'll get into it
00:21:53.680 there is uh not quite cottage industry but there is definitely like a community of people who are 0.95
00:21:59.200 just like fuck this lady yeah it becomes anti-fandom really quickly where literally anything 0.70
00:22:05.140 the person does becomes grounds to criticize them and like the justified critiques or like 0.99
00:22:11.100 the scale of the justified critiques get buried under all this other stuff yes uh it is full 0.97
00:22:18.860 bitch-eating crackers territory yeah that's what i was about to say but i didn't know if you knew 0.79
00:22:22.440 that term because that term's problematic oh michael if you think i'm not listening to your 0.98
00:22:25.420 bonus episode you're crazy do you want to say what bitching crackers is just in case people don't 0.60
00:22:32.600 know uh so for those of you who are not uh subscribers to the bonus content of if books 0.99
00:22:38.460 could kill uh bitch eating crackers is sort of this shorthand for like when you hate someone so 0.93
00:22:45.580 much that them just eating crackers elicits a negative response from you that you start going 1.00
00:22:52.100 you're like look at this bitch eating crackers like right okay and it's almost always women 1.00
00:22:56.800 who this happens to like you see the derangement you see the beginning of like okay there's like 0.99
00:23:01.640 real reasons to criticize this person and then very quickly you're like wait a minute the things
00:23:05.960 that people are criticizing her for are like eating crackers type stuff so this video ends 0.57
00:23:11.920 up getting 1.8 million views which is absolutely bonkers to me after this happens britney dawn
00:23:20.100 posts an apology video a classic of the youtube genre and it is very weird okay and it is very
00:23:29.640 wooden okay it has since been taken down but i found an alternate upload and i think maybe you
00:23:39.560 and i should watch the first little bit of that too okay even if we end up cutting it out it's
00:23:43.140 just a lot of our little watch parties i like our little watch parties too also i just feel like i'm
00:23:48.180 like let's stretch out today yeah let's just go for it let's relax let's let's just hang hang out
00:23:53.140 in the living room of our show okay here is the internet archive archive.org youtube link i didn't 0.58
00:24:01.820 know that was possible and it's still plays and everything welcome fuck yes okay this video goes
00:24:08.640 out in February of 2019. Hey guys, um, I'm not really sure where to start this video. I am
00:24:18.540 scared to film this video. Um, there's some things on the surface that have come to surface that have
00:24:26.380 come to fruition that need to be addressed. And so I'm here to do that and I'm here to put
00:24:30.860 everything to rest once and for all. Um, I apologize to anyone who feels like they got
00:24:37.300 scammed for me and I genuinely promised that my intentions from the start were pure. I wanted to
00:24:42.880 help and impact as many women as I could because I feel like this is why I was given this incredible
00:24:47.160 platform. When you're given an opportunity like this, you would be stupid not to take it and run 0.99
00:24:52.320 with it and unfortunately I ran too fast for one person. These claims are coming from years ago 0.95
00:24:58.120 after I got launched into a business that took off so fast that I didn't know how to mentally
00:25:02.540 handle it. I did what I knew to do to the best of my ability. I didn't know what I was signing
00:25:08.160 up for simply because being an influencer and running a fitness influencer business
00:25:12.540 was not really a thing back then. Therefore, I didn't have much guidance.
00:25:18.800 Tell me about your reactions to this so far.
00:25:21.380 Yeah, so I guess it's a little wooden. She's reading off of her phone and kind of pausing
00:25:26.240 to look at the camera every now and again. Maybe this is like bad of me, but like I am
00:25:31.960 in my head comparing her to like all of the other influencers and like all of the other scammy 0.85
00:25:38.180 bullshit yeah this is obviously indefensible behavior but it's it's like on a grading on a 0.83
00:25:43.320 curve this is not like that bad yeah i find it difficult to get worked up about this yeah i i 0.98
00:25:49.520 can understand that and i felt that way at this point in the research as well okay and then my
00:25:54.400 feelings changed okay she talks about um getting death threats after the cassidy campbell video
00:26:03.220 she talks about getting harassment she talks about all kinds of stuff she's uh pretty widely
00:26:09.720 known at this point to be a fairly unreliable narrator or at least an untrusted narrator
00:26:14.600 so she's talking about this stuff and people are already like not thrilled with her so to have this
00:26:22.460 kind of statement where she's reading off of her phone where this is a side note and a real pet
00:26:27.120 peeve. Her dryer is on in the background. Dude, I was wondering what that sounds. I thought it
00:26:31.300 was her pit bull. Yeah. Like a pair of overalls or a button or something. It's like clickety
00:26:36.080 clickety click. The other thing to know about this video is that she monetized it. Okay. It
00:26:43.000 had ads. She included affiliate links. And people are like, why are you making money off of your
00:26:49.680 apology for scamming people out of money yeah so it's like not again like i'm not gonna make a
00:26:55.780 federal case out of it but i get why it left a bad taste in folks mouths right like i that fair
00:27:01.180 it's not good it's not it's not that bad but it's definitely not good within just a few days of that
00:27:06.600 on february 13th the britney dawn backlash becomes a story in national news media and britney dawn
00:27:16.380 goes on good morning america yeah i have this link in my right hand bar yeah you sure do yeah
00:27:21.780 it's like suggesting this to me now britney is sort of briefly quoted on camera in the piece
00:27:26.700 and she says quote i jumped into an industry that had no instruction manual i'm basically going
00:27:32.980 through uncharted territory and i'm doing the best that i can to the best of my ability i'm using this
00:27:38.620 as a tool to learn and to grow as a professional and to move forward all of this only sort of
00:27:45.140 serves to amplify customers really troubling stories right someone comes forward in all of
00:27:52.340 this media and says uh that she was very thin at the time that she started with britney dawn 0.94
00:27:59.140 when she decided to stop doing the britney dawn routine she was at 80 pounds oh wow another 0.64
00:28:06.500 customer disclosed that she had anorexia and was still put on a quote-unquote personalized plan
00:28:12.540 of uh 1245 calories paired with high intensity interval training another person uh said that
00:28:23.880 they weighed around 200 pounds when they were uh doing sort of britney dawn's program and that they
00:28:31.060 passed out from inadequate nutrition in november of that year november of 2019 so we're fast
00:28:39.720 forwarding like nine months, she announces that the focus of her social media presence is changing.
00:28:47.920 She says that health and fitness are important to her, but that her identity is shifting and now
00:28:53.900 her identity is in Christ. Okay. Her content shifts very quickly from primarily fitness and
00:29:02.540 weight loss content to evangelical content that i would say is even niche within evangelical
00:29:10.460 spaces oh really there's a real pentecostal sort of tenor to what she's doing so she's like she's
00:29:16.360 in a tent she's doing revival stuff she's in her range rover filming videos uh on her iphone camera
00:29:26.200 so we're going from here's how to order a low calorie drink at starbucks and like here's the
00:29:33.380 lunges that i'm doing to the video that i just sent you okay she is posting this around joe
00:29:42.720 biden's inauguration that's when this video comes out that direction okay so the thumbnail is like
00:29:51.300 her looking concerned in that like a youtube thumbnail like i'm reacting to this way
00:29:55.980 and then the big caption in the thumbnail is this is unsettling
00:30:00.940 i don't care if you're red blue republican democrat i don't care what state you live in
00:30:09.000 i don't care what color state you're the state that you live in is i don't care about any of
00:30:12.800 that this isn't a video about my political stance this is not a video about who i voted for or
00:30:17.860 anything regards to that this is a video about what the holy spirit is revealing to me and so
00:30:22.120 many others in this day and age and things are shifting and they're shifting fast the first
00:30:26.500 thing that i found incredibly disturbing uh yesterday was during the inauguration when lady
00:30:32.060 gaga was up there um if you don't already know lady gaga is tied into witchcraft i am going to
00:30:38.860 try to put some information here on the screen as i talk sharing this and stating this and show you
00:30:43.560 guys the facts if you dig even even just an inch deep you will find this it's it's out there like
00:30:49.080 it's not trying to be hidden she has made this known the performance that she put on yesterday
00:30:53.440 was more than disturbing um it reminded me of hunger games from the get-go uh and then on top
00:30:59.260 of that on top of her whole outfit her whole get-up she was also wearing the dove of peace 1.00
00:31:04.260 symbol also in hunger games a little disturbing lots of red flags going on there lady gaga is 0.96
00:31:10.520 also tied to marina amabrovic now if you don't know who she is google her name she is a witch
00:31:15.840 they're both into spirit cooking and soul cooking and yesterday the slogan for them was fight for
00:31:21.620 the soul of our nation biden said that he is going to reverse any and all laws that were made or put
00:31:28.380 into place against abortion when he gets in the white house that he wants to do away with gender
00:31:33.680 terms like niece, nephew, brother, sister, mother, father. I'm sorry. What? How are people not seeing
00:31:41.240 these red flags? The opening prayer in the Senate two weeks ago, I believe it was two or three weeks
00:31:45.780 ago in itself was disturbing. Not only, not only were they praying to all these other gods, but
00:31:51.780 they closed that prayer out with amen and a woman. I'm sorry. Do you even know what amen means? Do you
00:31:58.900 even know what amen means. But we live in this culture that is so sensitive and so easily offended
00:32:05.160 by anything and everything, including a prayer now, that our government, who doesn't want to offend
00:32:10.320 anyone, is now mixing and molding God's word for what they want it to be instead of submitting to
00:32:16.880 his authority of who he is and who he has always been. And I just want to say this, if you are
00:32:21.680 offended by anything that I say in this video, I really, as a sister in Christ, want you to take
00:32:25.880 that offense to the feet of jesus and ask him ask the holy spirit to reveal these things to you
00:32:30.480 because if you're following the same jesus that i am he will i love that the clip that we just
00:32:38.120 watched started with her being like marina abramovich is a witch yeah lady gaga was dressed
00:32:45.420 like the hunger games and then it ends with her going people are so offended by everything these
00:32:51.600 i know like an outfit that reminded you of a movie what's happening the thing is is hunger
00:32:56.240 games that's not even like a sacrilegious text that's not like that's not like witchcraft and
00:33:01.800 that's just like a sci-fi movie yeah there's no occult element to it so i don't know what i don't
00:33:06.860 know what her i don't i don't know i mean to be fair lady yaga's outfit did look a little hunger
00:33:11.600 games but like that doesn't like mean anything also the symbol in the hunger games was the
00:33:17.240 mockingjay not a dove a dove just only always means peace yeah that's like a christian thing
00:33:23.200 there is so much in this video that we can go line by line aubrey we can just do this all day
00:33:29.560 particularly i uh wanted to dig in with you on uh biden wants to do away with gendered terms like
00:33:37.140 niece that's actually true but all of the vowels will be replaced by x's nix fuse i love it i love
00:33:43.140 it when these deranged religious people say stuff about like language and like pronouns and stuff
00:33:49.440 that just like literally doesn't make sense but like they they want to do away with pronouns
00:33:53.560 like that in english that would actually make it very difficult to communicate i don't think
00:33:57.440 anyone's actually yeah proposing that well and also just like as a you know former public policy
00:34:04.200 person when she's like he wants to do away with all these names for nieces and wife and husband
00:34:10.920 and a nephew my brain is trying so hard to figure out what policy that would be yeah tell me the
00:34:18.660 mechanics of that britney what are the mechanics by which someone could ban how do you stop people
00:34:24.640 from saying words i mean we're we're so awash in this stuff that it is almost campy at this point
00:34:30.260 but like this is someone who's like become unglued from reality on some level and she's 0.99
00:34:36.100 she's clearly reading like far right facebook group ass yeah news sources that just say shit 0.99
00:34:44.240 that is just doesn't make any fucking sense it's like yeah the the democrats want to ban all 0.99
00:34:48.660 religions yeah and then the weird stuff with the symbolism is just like pure q anon it's pure q 0.92
00:34:54.860 anon it's also pure national treasure yeah they put the symbol on the dollar bill this is a 0.98
00:35:02.640 fucking this is a generation that read too much fucking encyclopedia brown growing up and we all 0.98
00:35:07.600 think this is the way to like solve crimes and too much dan brown i the funny thing is i i love 0.99
00:35:13.860 the da vinci code so much because it's just openly such fucking garbage and like in a really fun 0.96
00:35:20.560 way like i feel like the writer kind of knows that it's garbage and it's just like 0.99
00:35:25.260 very well executed garbage listen i'm over here dunking on national treasure and i 100 0.90
00:35:32.300 percent watched national treasure book of secrets last week so around this time that britney dawn 0.79
00:35:41.080 is shifting her content she's also shifting what she is selling to her followers okay and she starts
00:35:47.400 selling tickets to religious retreats okay that makes sense where she baptizes attendees that's
00:35:54.660 actually that's a way better business model the reaction from at least the most vocal sort of
00:36:00.620 christian folks responding to this is very negative charging someone to be baptized like
00:36:06.720 what are we doing especially when that someone isn't clergy feels really wild i mean sure but
00:36:15.940 also like it's a weird case to like all of a sudden be offended at the intersection between
00:36:21.160 commerce and christianity guys someone hasn't heard of joel osteen yeah britney dawn is not 0.98
00:36:28.480 like even in the top 1000 of like fucking mega church ass grifters doing this shit so this may 0.98
00:36:36.440 seem like a hard turn from sort of fitness content into pentecostal leaning evangelical 0.99
00:36:43.360 content but christian fitness has a surprisingly long history oh you are doing context here we go
00:36:53.920 so the modern roots of that connection stretch back to the victorian era there's a book called
00:37:02.300 british manly exercises my favorite kind that is published in 1837 and becomes a hit okay one
00:37:12.220 scottish medical practitioner founded the british institute of physical training in 1889
00:37:19.800 his exercise program consisted of what he called physical jerks oh what which feels to me like
00:37:28.700 how you would describe dancing in the footloose town
00:37:32.120 so all of this evolves into a movement called muscular christianity
00:37:41.580 i am taking it that you have not heard of muscular christianity no because if i heard it i would
00:37:47.820 assumed that that was like supposed to be a metaphor. Like it's muscular. Like the spirit
00:37:51.160 of Christ is like making our beliefs more powerful, but they mean like literally physical
00:37:55.580 muscles. Like you're covered in like veins and protein. Absolutely. The idea behind muscular
00:38:01.360 Christianity primarily focuses on men and masculinity. And the idea is that your body
00:38:08.720 is a gift and that it needs to be trained to do the work of Christ. Things like protecting those
00:38:16.500 who are perceived as not being able to protect themselves things like missionary work and so
00:38:21.800 forth professor richard andrew meyer outlined six criteria for muscular christianity abs lats
00:38:31.040 quads craps fraps number one a man's body is given to him by god two to be trained three
00:38:41.380 to be brought into subjection what four to be used for protection of the weak five to be used
00:38:51.080 for the quote advancement of all righteous causes and six to be used for subduing the earth which
00:38:59.720 god has given to the children of men subduing the earth the anxiety at this point is like
00:39:04.720 we're working in these factories uh and it's making us soft we used to work the field so this
00:39:10.500 idea of like subduing the earth is like we have to get back to our sort of masculine roots of 0.98
00:39:16.020 working the land god it's always the same shit it's the same shit we see now right it's like oh 0.95
00:39:22.460 we left the land we used to be pure it's like all this sort of like michael paulin stuff authenticity 0.99
00:39:28.200 and get your yogurt from a dairy farm direct from the farmer it's all the same shit forever 0.97
00:39:33.840 the other thing that's all the same shit is that muscular christianity also sort of gave way to a 0.99
00:39:40.340 set of beliefs that, um, are with us still today, which is the idea that physical strength led to 0.99
00:39:48.160 strong character and strong morals, right? That if you are training in the gym, that doesn't just
00:39:54.680 mean you're training in the gym. It means you have tenacity and a work ethic and right. Like
00:39:59.140 there are all sorts of sort of like character compliments that we add on to the simple act of
00:40:04.900 going to the gym or not going to the gym. Right. It's turning us into a metaphor, basically.
00:40:08.760 So muscular Christianity spread through the U.S. as well, in part as a sort of reactionary politics, right? Women were gaining more social and political rights. A wave of immigrants were sort of shifting culture and the job market. And all of that also led to a different sense, but like linked to the sort of English version of white masculinity in crisis, right? 0.99
00:40:36.800 always pussification of men this is like the thing that men have been fucking whining about 0.96
00:40:40.780 for like 200 years straight up tucker carlson yeah exactly muscular christianity is actually 0.99
00:40:47.140 how we got the ymca what the song no god michael i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding
00:40:53.700 i mean it kind of is like this is this is why we have gay men fetishizing but yes yes the ymca
00:41:01.880 built its first gym facility in 1869 in new york and before that it really was just a christian
00:41:10.360 association that didn't have nearly as much to do with athleticism right okay muscular christianity
00:41:16.340 continues to sort of influence christian fitness programs today we still have programs like losing
00:41:24.060 to live the daniel plan firm believer body for god holy fit body temple wellness and body gospel
00:41:34.220 right like there are tons of these you have a bunch of these in your diet book collection i
00:41:39.040 know because we've talked about a couple of them i don't have firm believer that's by far the best
00:41:43.820 one all of this also ties into christian weight loss programs i read a great piece in christianity
00:41:49.080 today, um, about this sort of concept of like a fitness driven church. They referenced a 1957
00:41:57.260 bestseller called pray your weight away, which argued that quote, if our bodies really are to
00:42:05.420 be temples of the Holy spirit, we had best get them down to the size God intended. Yeah. God
00:42:11.840 does not care what size you are. This is dumb as shit. This timeless being is like, 1.00
00:42:19.080 looking down and it's like oh your body fat's like eight percent it should be five percent 0.95
00:42:23.040 cheryl's put on a few god so in the tradition of muscular christianity britney dawn starts her
00:42:32.500 own ministry called she lives freed okay according to the guardian her ministry is a 501c3 registered
00:42:40.160 nonprofit. As part of that, she launches a podcast actually earlier this year in 2023
00:42:47.380 called Chiseled and Called. That's not even good, Brittany. She starts holding religious retreats
00:42:56.160 and her retreats go for up to $650 for a weekend retreat, which is considerably higher than other
00:43:04.060 sort of like christian spiritual retreats right she also has a bunch of merch she sells a set of
00:43:11.020 bible highlighters what why would you need special highlighters that's genius i like her now i'm 0.98
00:43:19.920 sorry it's such a blatant grift you have to almost respect it fucking bible highlighters 0.97
00:43:27.540 she's just taking like a razor blade and scratching off the part where it says sharpie 0.98
00:43:33.580 yeah and writing like bible like
00:43:36.320 can i tell you about no now i'm so giggly this is good 1.00
00:43:44.440 she also sells uh protein cookies okay she sells false eyelashes and she sells
00:43:55.380 self-tanner is the bronzer called looking dark on the ark i think that would be pretty good
00:44:00.880 there are also some uh internet allegations that the false eyelashes that she sells are just like 0.99
00:44:07.560 drop shipped from alibaba i'm sure yes well what did you expect it's not like she's like a 0.53
00:44:12.700 like textile manufacturer like of course so like part of her appeal at these christian retreats
00:44:20.920 that she holds is her backlash they canceled me just like they canceled jesus so i'm gonna send
00:44:27.140 you a quote a number of media outlets attended this one retreat okay she uh got asked about
00:44:36.660 like talk to me about the fitness scam stuff and this was her response to that i just sent it to
00:44:44.740 you oh god i was right jesus okay she says you can't cancel what god has called you can try all
00:44:52.920 you want but the power of the blood has already overcome it that is the truth that i walk in
00:44:57.980 every day and a heavenly confidence comes with that you can't cancel me she's also selling sure
00:45:04.720 you can't cancel me stickers oh of course at this specific retreat i don't know people it's like the
00:45:11.480 kind of people that she's praying on it's like these far-right evangelical christians that are 0.99
00:45:17.060 falling for this shit and part of me just feels like that is like a weird little jungle in there 1.00
00:45:20.760 where they're all just fucking getting grifted most like right-wing politics is so fucking grift 1.00
00:45:25.680 adjacent at this point one it's honestly so hard for me to feel sympathy for people who are like 0.99
00:45:32.120 falling for these like buy fucking gold doubloons that you see advertised on fox news yeah of course 0.99
00:45:37.800 she's fucking grifting you this is the whole fucking ideology is a grift well we're gonna 0.99
00:45:42.000 go a little further in that direction and then come on back as with many of these stories this 0.99
00:45:48.920 is all shaped significantly by a dedicated group of internet people this mostly happens on reddit
00:45:56.800 although you can find britney dawn stuff on pretty much every platform as of like this week the main
00:46:04.540 anti-britney dawn subreddit has over 40 000 followers oh and is flooded with people who 0.97
00:46:12.960 reject every single thing she does it is like deep bitch eating crackers territory right i get 0.90
00:46:20.440 really uncomfortable with that even when somebody deserves it i get uncomfortable with that at one 0.98
00:46:25.100 point britney makes a video where she talks about a very harrowing experience she's weeping while she
00:46:32.180 makes the video um she and her husband have come home from running errands to find that her dog
00:46:40.620 has been hit by a car in a hit and run oh she is a wreck as i would be i would be destroyed yeah
00:46:49.700 she says that she used to be a vet tech so she knows that her dog wouldn't have survived
00:46:55.740 so her husband takes her dog into the house away from britney and shoots the dog okay to put it out
00:47:04.180 of its misery yeah people have very strong reactions to this i absolutely understand why
00:47:09.780 the idea of someone like shooting my dog absolutely got me like choked up immediately.
00:47:15.680 Yeah. Also, I will say there is some real urban rural divide stuff in the reactions to this,
00:47:22.920 right? Like I talked to my dad about this and he was like, well, yeah, man, like if a dog's hurt
00:47:28.240 and you can't get it to the vet, like you've got to shoot that dog. So like there's some of that
00:47:33.380 to be clear that's not true for britney dawn she lives in dallas fort worth like a big ass metro
00:47:41.520 area right like listen anytime you're putting a dog down it's a really really really hard thing
00:47:50.640 and people engage with that in lots of different ways they have lots of different responses to it
00:47:56.260 i don't need everyone's like grieving to look the same or whatever but it is kind of wild to
00:48:02.820 be in such a big city with so many resources and go no you just got to shoot the dog i resent the
00:48:08.740 position that these influencers put us all in because a lot of these people have made their
00:48:14.080 personal life like the center of their career right it's like oh me and my dog are gonna go
00:48:18.500 for a walk or like me and my husband have like such a healthy marriage here's us in the morning
00:48:22.020 drinking coffee and then when something happens in their personal life right like they get a divorce
00:48:27.960 or their dog dies, it's part of their public persona, right? Because they've made it part
00:48:33.520 of their public persona. But then if you're criticizing somebody for those kinds of personal
00:48:38.140 decisions, in other contexts, you wouldn't do this. You'd just be like, oh, this really isn't
00:48:43.580 any of my business. Well, and also like, this is someone whose fucking dog just died. Yeah, 1.00
00:48:48.620 exactly. I don't know. I feel gross about being like, you did it wrong. To be honest, I find
00:48:53.480 the behavior like something terrible happened to me i'm an emotional wreck i'm immediately going
00:48:58.760 to turn on my phone and talk about it for the public and broadcast it on the internet i honestly
00:49:03.540 find that behavior totally baffling and like really off-putting morally like yeah i don't
00:49:08.700 get it at all yeah but on the other hand her dog died and it seems like whatever else you want to
00:49:14.680 say about britney dawn she she loved her dog yeah it just feels uncomfortable to be criticizing
00:49:20.060 somebody for like her dog got hit by a car and she made a decision in the moment that maybe I
00:49:25.980 wouldn't have made. Maybe it was the wrong decision. I don't have enough information to
00:49:28.820 really know. The whole thing is just messy. It was a weird, you know, not the best decision by
00:49:34.980 my own sort of assessment, but also like, I don't know that like a bunch of shitty internet comments
00:49:42.560 is helping anybody do better with that. Yeah. I don't know. I feel really complicated about it.
00:49:47.840 I'm glad you brought me into these complicated feelings. I knew what you meant.
00:49:50.060 now complicated feelings here we are since this whole story sort of broke folks have surfaced 0.94
00:49:57.000 other sort of issues with britney dawn and her work and her sort of presence in the world and
00:50:02.940 on the internet one of those things is that britney and her husband jordan have volunteered
00:50:08.740 in the past for the freedom shield foundation which is sort of a right-wing anti-trafficking
00:50:14.840 organization that's like we're saving christians from bad life circumstances right another is uh
00:50:23.000 she posted a whole sort of series of instagram stories and tiktoks about uh meeting an unhoused
00:50:31.620 person named james and trying to find him to give him money and take him in and the critiques of
00:50:40.180 that one were mostly about like, wow, you couldn't even just do this thing without uploading a video
00:50:46.380 about it. As more of these little stories come to the surface, they actually draw more folks in.
00:50:54.540 Brittany announced last year that she had two miscarriages. Okay. Brittany Dawn has since made
00:51:01.300 a number of videos about her experience with her miscarriage. So people initially start with
00:51:09.820 she's just monetizing this again and that feels gross and then people start just straight up
00:51:17.020 alleging that she is faking her miscarriages part of what happens around the miscarriage stuff is
00:51:23.860 like utterly grotesque behavior to me people pull screen grabs from her videos where she shows an
00:51:30.200 ultrasound and goes like she's saying she had a miscarriage at this time period but this is
00:51:35.500 clearly an ultrasound from like this trimester and she's saying it was there like whatever 0.95
00:51:40.520 people are deconstructing all of her videos like the goddamn zapruder film yeah right so bad they
00:51:47.300 are looking at her expressions on her face and they're like yeah that's no one who was really 0.86
00:51:52.980 grieving would make that face i a couple years ago watched one of the terrible like sandy hook 0.99
00:51:59.300 conspiracy theory videos and like this is the shit that they said about the parents like 0.98
00:52:04.480 grieving parents yeah it's like their faces wouldn't look like that if their kid had really 0.98
00:52:08.580 died like whenever you see somebody doing this huge red flag yes so following her miscarriages
00:52:17.960 britney dawn announces that she and her husband have become foster parents to an infant okay
00:52:24.540 the infant that they foster is black which will become relevant in a bit okay this riles folks 0.61
00:52:32.520 for a few reasons one she makes a lot of videos of her with this foster baby she has affiliate 0.73
00:52:39.840 links to some of the like baby stuff that she has bought all of that kind of stuff she does
00:52:45.820 blur the child's face because the u.s children's bureau requires that foster parents not post 0.81
00:52:53.180 pictures of their foster kids thank fucking god jesus christ she also reveals a bunch of personal 0.96
00:52:58.480 details about this baby in her videos she talks about the baby going through substance withdrawals 0.98
00:53:06.380 which is like an extremely sensitive disclosure and reads to many folks like she's trying to get
00:53:13.260 brownie points based on the struggles that this infant is going through so she has a baby for
00:53:18.480 some short period of time and then is just immediately like mining the baby for content
00:53:22.740 that's how folks respond to it man foster parents and social workers in particular are livid that
00:53:29.960 she is sort of bucking this fairly widely accepted role for foster parents that they are
00:53:35.120 temporary loving homes but temporary homes for kids who are expected to reunite with their families
00:53:40.460 the biggest reason that this one blows up doesn't have anything really to do with britney it has
00:53:49.080 everything to do with her husband okay you start to see comments on the posts about her foster
00:53:56.060 child with people asking how they passed a background check to foster kids okay and
00:54:03.480 britney responds in the comments uh quote my background check came back perfect thank you
00:54:09.340 i'd be cautious about believing everything you see about someone on the internet a gossip forum
00:54:14.300 and especially manipulative news stories.
00:54:17.600 Okay.
00:54:18.720 She is talking about her husband, Jordan Nelson,
00:54:21.480 who is originally from Kansas City, Missouri,
00:54:24.960 and is a former police officer.
00:54:28.800 Okay.
00:54:29.600 He and Brittany got married in September of 2021.
00:54:33.580 He is a former police officer in part
00:54:37.040 because the ACLU filed suit against him
00:54:40.800 for excessive force against a black man. 0.99
00:54:43.520 oh my fucking god so the lawsuit was settled out of court but the dash cam footage was released 1.00
00:54:51.680 it very clearly shows a black man standing still his hands in the air and fully visible 0.99
00:54:57.940 a group of officers sort of tear up in police cars uh and approach him so britney dawn's husband
00:55:06.560 jordan nelson is the first officer to reach him and what he does is kick his legs out from under
00:55:12.560 him shove him into the sidewalk and four other officers descend on him and hold him down jesus
00:55:20.160 christ a few minutes later on that same video he reenacts the whole thing to show off to his
00:55:28.840 fellow officers off good god while this man is still lying on the sidewalk and had yet to receive
00:55:34.860 any medical attention jesus christ it's like the opposite of bitching crackers this is like the 1.00
00:55:40.100 most odious fucking shit. It is absolutely atrocious. After all of this happens, Jordan 1.00
00:55:47.860 Nelson filed for a protective order against the dude he beat. Oh, God. Absolutely deranged behavior
00:55:58.220 is what's happening here. I guess the reason he passed the background check is because they
00:56:02.380 settled out of court. So there's no like he wasn't all a background check would find is if
00:56:06.480 he was convicted of something but he wasn't convicted of anything partly because he was like
00:56:10.240 an agent of the state yeah it's like a huge loophole in the system right that if somebody
00:56:14.660 uses power to subjugate somebody else that wouldn't show up as a red flag and now this 0.99
00:56:19.960 fucking couple is fostering a black child right like just boy oh boy oh boy i can't say enough 0.99
00:56:27.820 about how extremely reasonable a concern this is yeah and it leads to quite a bit of talk about 1.00
00:56:34.240 um how much this reflects the brokenness of the foster care system and hard agree right god this
00:56:42.500 episode was so fun and breezy it was just like a run-of-the-mill like christian megachurch grifter
00:56:47.560 remember when you were like i like her i know and now it's just like oh it's like all of like
00:56:55.220 the worst shit in american society yeah yeah has she has she said anything about the the video of 0.98
00:57:01.320 her husband? Not that I found. Just the like, don't believe everything you read, which is like, 1.00
00:57:05.840 okay. God, it's such a fucking obvious thing to say, but it's like the idea of a Christianity 0.97
00:57:10.840 that wants you to be thin, but doesn't mind you using your power as an agent of the state 0.99
00:57:17.120 to beat somebody up. It's just like not a, that's not a serious morality.
00:57:24.080 Quite a bit of this comes to a head in a way that really surprised me.
00:57:29.060 OK, the state of Texas announced in February of last year that it was suing Brittany Dawn for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a million dollars in damages for, quote, deceptive trade practices.
00:57:41.240 OK, the grounds for the suit are specifically that Brittany Dawn particularly focused on targeting people with eating disorders.
00:57:52.880 Oh, wow. People who were clearly intentionally misled and taken in by the frequent implication
00:58:01.020 that Brittany Dawn was trained to work with people with EDs or that she had a level of
00:58:06.640 expertise that they could trust. Right. They also allege some other little things that didn't come
00:58:12.280 up in the online tossing out the net to gather things up that I did. The actual lawsuit
00:58:18.380 includes in the damages that they say that she charged shipping for pdfs nice that's actually
00:58:27.180 pretty good that's pretty good let's write that down aubrey let's keep that let's keep that in
00:58:32.160 our back pocket for when we cash in the trial gets scheduled there's over a year of build-up
00:58:39.000 it's delayed a couple of times it ends up coming to a close without a single day of the trial
00:58:46.340 because she settles out of court and two weeks later britney dawn makes a video saying she's
00:58:52.300 off social media that the lord is calling her to a period of spiritual rest okay even though she's
00:58:59.660 off social media she has more followers than ever on tiktok wow despite everything she still seems
00:59:08.400 to be accruing followers and she still seems to be profiting it's also such a weird like internet
00:59:14.800 story because if it wasn't for the final twist like the final thing that happens the video of
00:59:22.520 her husband this would mostly be a story of like something on the internet that makes me kind of
00:59:29.420 uncomfortable yeah like someone who is annoying or tacky or grifty or even like genuinely bad
00:59:36.480 but then a community forms just talking constantly about how bad this person is right and it it seems
00:59:44.260 like they finally you know years into this found a good reason yeah to dislike her yeah like both
00:59:52.860 of them are such archetypes in addition to being who they are right they are also sort of uh these
01:00:01.300 kind of effigies of like this kind of dude and this kind of lady and they sort of come to represent
01:00:09.480 again, like not just what they personally are doing, but these whole systems that they are
01:00:16.240 happily and proudly contributing to that are terrible to folks who are on the downside of
01:00:23.220 power. Right. Yeah. And also her boobs are asymmetrical. Oh, I feel like it's okay. It's
01:00:28.500 okay. It's okay to make fun of her for that. Now I can be problematic because she sucks.
01:00:32.780 She sucks. So all bets are off. That's how principles work. That's how it works. I can 1.00
01:00:38.680 I can say that about people now.
01:01:08.680 Thank you.