Missing Witches - September 22, 2019


Missing Witches: Marija Gimbutas - I Fell In Love With What Is Ancient

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00:09:15.020 for the unbelievable yet totally believable story of maria gimbutas on season three of the missing
00:09:22.340 Witches podcast. A persistent asker of why a child or dissident is often dismissed with
00:09:30.460 because it's always been that way. Historians are here to say no. These pieces of thousand
00:09:36.360 or ten thousand year old evidence say different. Things can change. Now, gentle listener, close
00:09:44.740 your eyes and take that idea to its ultimate, where discoveries are made and theories are put
00:09:49.840 forth that shift our very understanding of the world we live in, of the values of humanity.
00:09:56.780 And in this world-shattering place, we find archaeologist Maria Gimbutas, a small, demure
00:10:04.060 seeker, challenging our accepted history of human life on this planet.
00:10:11.700 Let's start this story as far back as we can go, somewhere between 11,000 and 3 million years ago.
00:10:19.420 Okay, maybe that's too far back.
00:10:21.540 Let's start this story in 1994 with the death of the great goddess excavator, Maria Gimbutas.
00:10:29.340 Her New York Times obituary went, in part, as follows.
00:10:33.360 Perhaps her most controversial thesis was that the world was at peace during the Stone Age,
00:10:38.520 when goddesses were worshipped and societies were centered on women.
00:10:41.920 Then the thesis went, about 6,000 years ago, a culture in which the two sexes lived in harmony
00:10:48.180 was shattered by patriarchal invaders and the worship of life-giving goddess was replaced by
00:10:54.260 reverence for war-like gods. Her studies and interdisciplinary approach also created a new
00:11:00.340 field, archaeomythology. Skepticism about her thesis was widespread among scholars,
00:11:06.420 but her ideas were welcomed by many feminists and by Joseph Campbell, the mythologist.
00:11:11.840 Writing about Gimbutas's book, The Language of the Goddess, Gerda Lerner, a historian at the
00:11:17.680 University of Wisconsin, said that although Dr. Gimbutas's theory could never be proved,
00:11:23.100 it could, quote, challenge and inspire and fascinate simply by providing an imaginative
00:11:29.440 alternative to male-centered explanations. What a legacy. May we all challenge, inspire,
00:11:38.080 and fascinate. Maria has said, all I ever wanted was to find the truth. And she dug deep literally
00:11:46.060 and metaphorically to uncover the truth. In her early life in Lithuania, she was a child of means
00:11:53.040 and this enabled her to pursue education of all varieties, an education that was not accessible
00:11:59.080 to many people, let alone little girls. A proto-feminist such as we often see in The Mothers 1.00
00:12:04.900 of Great Witches, Maria's mother had a doctorate in ophthalmology from the University of Berlin
00:12:09.900 and was the first female physician in Lithuania. Her father was also a doctor who published
00:12:15.840 both a magazine and a newspaper. Maria said, if you do not have a vision as a person, you cannot
00:12:22.640 see much. Which almost feels like an inside joke once you know her mother was an eye doctor.
00:12:29.080 Joan Marler wrote, Maria told me about an experience she had as a child, watching people
00:12:35.340 work in traditional ways that began her own interest in the study of folklore and eventually
00:12:40.260 ethnology, and archaeology. Maria said, the old women used sickles and sang while they worked. 0.99
00:12:47.260 The songs were very authentic, very ancient. At that moment, I fell in love with what is
00:12:53.060 ancient because it was a deep communication and oneness with the earth. I was completely
00:12:58.460 captivated. Maria fled Soviet-occupied and annexed Lithuania during World War II and made her way 0.72
00:13:05.460 Germany, where she continued her education at Tübingen University, earning a PhD. This background
00:13:11.360 was a major influence on her later work because she refused to focus on one discipline. She studied
00:13:16.980 linguistics, ethnology, and the history of religions, and this mixture would inform the
00:13:21.960 basis for her cultural theories. In Maria's lifetime, Lithuania was ruled by Russia, then
00:13:27.720 Poland, back to Russia, then Germany, and Russia again. So it makes sense that she would go looking 0.63
00:13:33.580 for something more ancient than the occupations and borders she grew up with. In 1949, she moved
00:13:40.780 to the United States and started working at Harvard University. Because she spoke multiple
00:13:45.200 languages and had such an interdisciplinary knowledge base, she quickly became quite
00:13:49.840 valuable to the Harvard faculty. In 1955, Maria was made a fellow of Harvard's Peabody Museum,
00:13:56.220 which is a lifetime honour. Maria joined the UCLA faculty in 1963, serving as professor of European
00:14:04.140 archaeology until her retirement. But despite her new American home, her heart belonged to her
00:14:09.740 motherland. Lithuania called and Maria would direct five major archaeological excavations
00:14:16.460 in southeastern Europe in her time at UCLA. It's fairly straightforward to dig up a site,
00:14:22.580 find a pot and announce, these people made pots. But Gimbutas and others like her want to know
00:14:29.140 more. Infer. So the question becomes, how to describe a culture purely from the material
00:14:36.320 goods you find? How to find a pot and discover a whole society? It's tempting to hear this and
00:14:44.380 go on a shopping spree that somehow our goods define us. And I think a lot of people feel this
00:14:49.360 way, but in Maria's world, perhaps you'd be better off carving sigils into the stuff you already have.
00:14:55.920 Because the things that Maria found were simple objects, but not simply objects.
00:15:02.220 In her gorgeous and encyclopedic book, The Language of the Goddess, she wrote,
00:15:07.520 The amazing repetition of symbolic associations through time and in all of Europe on pottery,
00:15:14.040 figurines, and other cult objects has convinced me that they are more than geometric motifs.
00:15:20.740 They must belong to an alphabet of the metaphysical. We see this happen with the pagan symbols that
00:15:28.120 populate our, quote, Christian holidays. It's much easier to keep the symbols and remove or change
00:15:34.160 the meaning to suit our need to control. And so it was, as Maria's theory contends, when the culture
00:15:40.200 of war invaded the culture of peace. She wrote, the bull is linked with regeneration, yet the
00:15:48.060 figure is not a bull's head, but the female reproductive organs. The similarity is striking
00:15:55.540 indeed. And so it was that the uterus and ovaries connected by fallopian tubes, a symbol of fertility
00:16:02.560 became the bull's head and horns, a symbol of virility, manliness, charging strength.
00:16:12.220 Joseph Campbell was a well-known mythologist, writer, and professor of English literature who
00:16:16.800 wrote the foreword to Maria's delicious volume of drawings, photographs, and analysis,
00:16:21.260 The Language of the Goddess. As a mythologist and symbologist, Maria's research struck a chord
00:16:27.840 with Joseph that you can hear ringing through his lovely and enthusiastically written introduction.
00:16:34.460 He wrote,
00:16:34.920 As Jean-François Champollion, a century and a half ago, through his decipherment of the Rosetta Stone,
00:16:41.980 was able to establish a glossary of hieroglyphic signs to serve as keys to the whole great treasury
00:16:48.480 of Egyptian religious thought from circa 3200 BC to the period of the Ptolemites.
00:16:55.080 So, in her assemblage, classification, and descriptive interpretation of some 2,000 symbolic artifacts from the earliest Neolithic village sites of Europe, circa 7,000 to 3,500 BC, Maria Gimbutas has been able not only to prepare a fundamental glossary of pictorial motifs as keys to the mythology of that otherwise undocumented era,
00:17:21.060 but also to establish on the basis of these interpreted signs the main lines and themes of
00:17:27.360 a religion in veneration, both of the universe as a living body of a goddess mother creature
00:17:33.280 and of all the living things within it, as partaking of her divinity. A religion one
00:17:41.560 immediately perceives, which is in contrast to that of Genesis 3.19, where Adam is told by his
00:17:47.060 father creator in the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground
00:17:52.280 for out of it you were taken you are dust and to dust you shall return in this earlier mythology
00:17:58.620 the earth out of which all these creatures have been born is not dust but alive as the goddess
00:18:04.540 creator herself one cannot but feel that in the appearance of this volume at just this turn of
00:18:10.640 the century that there is an evident relevance to the universally recognized need in our time
00:18:16.280 for a general transformation of consciousness. The message here is of an actual age of harmony
00:18:22.140 and peace in accord with the creative energies of nature, which for a spell of some 4,000
00:18:28.440 prehistoric years anteceded the 5,000 of that which James Joyce has termed the nightmare of
00:18:35.380 contending tribal and national interests, from which it is now certainly time for this planet
00:18:40.860 to wake. Signed, Joseph Campbell. Joseph famously inspired George Lucas in his creation of the Star
00:18:50.480 Wars series, and I love this interplay. One degree of separation between Maria's artifacts and Lucas's
00:18:57.700 science fiction. Everything is truly everything. From the Language of the Goddess. The reason for
00:19:06.520 the great number and variety of old European images lies in the fact that this symbolism is
00:19:11.860 lunar and tonic, built around the understanding that life on Earth is in eternal transformation,
00:19:20.140 in constant and rhythmic change between creation and destruction, birth and death. The moon's three
00:19:27.420 phases, new, waxing, and old, are repeated in trinities or triple functional deities that
00:19:34.480 Recall these moon phases, maiden, nymph, and crone. Life-giving, death-giving, and transformational,
00:19:42.540 rising, dying, and self-renewing. Life-givers are also death-wielders. Immortality is secured
00:19:50.160 through the innate forces of regeneration within nature itself. The concept of regeneration and
00:19:56.420 renewal is perhaps the most outstanding and dramatic theme that we perceive in this symbolism.
00:20:01.660 It seems more appropriate to view all of these goddess images as aspects of the one great goddess with her core functions.
00:20:11.020 Life-giving, death-wielding, regeneration, and renewal.
00:20:17.280 The obvious analogy would be to nature itself.
00:20:20.840 Through the multiplicity of phenomena and continuing cycles of which it is made,
00:20:26.540 One recognizes the fundamental and underlying unity of nature.
00:20:33.160 The goddess is imminent rather than transcendent, and therefore physically manifest.
00:20:42.520 The things that connect us all are the same things which exist now, just as they did, as they do, as they will.
00:20:49.960 The things we share, the moon, sun, earth, and stars, are free to behold, free to connect with.
00:20:58.040 There's no admission fee to look up at the sky.
00:21:01.400 So while we impose meaning and rules and tariffs and borders that only serve to divide us,
00:21:08.280 there shines the moon in perfect equality for everyone.
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00:22:40.000 We've seen the alchemy of combination so many times on this podcast. Pixie Smith with her
00:22:57.500 illustration and divination, Maria Sabina with her poetry and magic mushrooms, Zora Neale Hurston's
00:23:03.440 pen and traveling bone. The work of Maria Gimbutas requires a complex recipe of conversation across
00:23:10.980 academic disciplines to even begin to unpack the fullness of its meaning. The exchange of
00:23:16.200 information between archaeologists, linguists, mythologists, physical anthropologists, and
00:23:21.340 ancient historians, artists, poets, scientists, and witches. She said, there is a belief that
00:23:27.860 religion cannot be reconstructed. That it's a waste of time to even speak of religion because
00:23:33.420 archaeologists cannot do it. Maybe this is because they are not really trained. They are not interested
00:23:39.320 in mythology at all and are just seeing the material culture. They don't want to see anything
00:23:44.920 else. They think they are safe in reconstructing the ways of agriculture or how pottery was made
00:23:50.220 and that satisfies them. In our days there are no people with vision. They cannot go across the
00:23:56.920 border of their discipline. Archaeology now is interested mostly in excavation techniques,
00:24:02.140 and they want to be very precise. The computer is used and all that. Of course, you can reach
00:24:06.920 some conclusions using statistics, but if you do not have a vision as a person, if you are not
00:24:13.380 also a poet or an artist, you cannot see much. You will just be a technician. And this is,
00:24:21.040 in most cases, what happens. Back to Joan Martler. She wrote,
00:24:27.060 The Bronze Age is typified by the burials of dominant males with caches of weapons.
00:24:32.680 Having traveled extensively in Eastern Europe to study the archaeological material, it was clear
00:24:37.600 to Maria that something very different was happening before the Bronze Age, and she became
00:24:43.060 impassioned to find out what that was. Although numerous excavations were being done on Neolithic
00:24:48.580 sites, and she had studied every excavation report in its original language. No one had presented an
00:24:55.940 overview to answer her questions, so she decided to conduct her own research and turned her attention
00:25:01.180 to an in-depth investigation of the earlier Neolithic cultures. Fortunately, UCLA had money
00:25:07.340 for such projects in those days, so between 1967 and 1980, Maria Gimbutas became project director
00:25:14.100 of five major excavations of Neolithic sites in Southeast Europe. As long as Gimbutas was
00:25:19.560 describing Bronze Age artifacts, she was considered a respected scholar. She soon realized, however,
00:25:25.820 that in the earliest levels of excavation, there were no weapons of war or signs of male domination.
00:25:32.340 It also became clear to her that descriptions of the material culture would not be enough. It would
00:25:38.480 be impossible to understand the cultural development of the Neolithic period without
00:25:42.700 acknowledging that an earth-based spirituality was central to every aspect of life. Therefore,
00:25:49.820 she employed an interdisciplinary approach to scholarship, which she eventually called
00:25:54.500 archaeomythology. Other researchers had noticed the relative peacefulness of these early societies
00:26:00.940 and the prevalence of female figurines. It was Maria, however, who had the audacity to speak of
00:26:07.540 this imagery as sacred expressions of the deity in female form. She used the word goddess and
00:26:15.260 spoke of it as all life in nature. If all this prehistoric goddess stuff is starting to sound
00:26:23.740 familiar, maybe you caught our episode on Monica Cho, one of the patron saints of the Missing
00:26:28.760 Witches podcast. She and her great cosmic mother co-author Barbara Marr were very inspired by Maria
00:26:35.560 Gimbutas and mention her several times in the book. So here's an excerpt from Great Cosmic Mother.
00:26:41.720 Finally, the snake came to symbolize the phallus, male sexual energy, which was understood to be
00:26:48.600 originally contained inside the goddess, born from her and returning to her again, when, at the end
00:26:55.900 of each world cycle, expansion, contraction, she curls up in a dark sleep. Though upper
00:27:02.360 paleolithic images of copulation between men and women occur, icons and myths of the great mother
00:27:08.480 do not show her actually mated with a human son-lover until Middle Neolithic times, circa
00:27:14.700 5500 BC. At this time, and especially after the peak period of Katahyuk, which seems to have been
00:27:22.000 a divorce of male attributes from the mother and quite a phallic obsession developed, shown in
00:27:28.340 representations of phallic cups, standing phallic stones, and Ithphallic gods, though pictures of
00:27:34.760 shamans in trance with huge erections go far back into Upper Paleolithic. But these are not
00:27:40.760 aggressive or misogynist phallic images. Rather, they seem to represent the phallus serving the 0.59
00:27:46.800 goddess, women, and the life process of all. This is really shown in the tradition of goddess
00:27:53.320 phallus stones, with goddess figures carved on phallic-shaped bones or rocks. This phallic form
00:28:00.640 of the goddess is found continuously from the Paleolithic through the Neolithic and into the
00:28:06.220 proto-urban period in Mesopotamia. Maria Gimbutas sees these goddess phallus icons deriving from
00:28:13.080 the Old Stone Age as suggesting the androgynous nature of the Great Mother. This is so. They also 0.94
00:28:21.080 suggest the potential unity of the sexes in mutual love service, before their disastrous
00:28:28.120 splitting apart by patriarchal misogyny and puritanical sex codes.
00:28:35.380 So Maria found statues with both male and female traits. Clay sculptures of plump women with 0.94
00:28:43.080 phallic heads and folded arms. They are amazing works of art indeed, resembling both the feminine,
00:28:49.140 bottom-heavy goddess, and, to put it bluntly, dick and balls. This helped Maria to emphasize 0.99
00:28:56.680 co-creation, that the great goddess is all, so of course exists as androgynous. Everything.
00:29:06.380 Everything all at once. People are using the term non-binary a lot these days, and while you might
00:29:12.840 understand what that means culturally, maybe you're not familiar with what the words themselves mean
00:29:18.140 and how they're used. You've probably heard me say smash the binary in the same breath as smash
00:29:23.280 the patriarchy, so I think it's worth going off on another one of our patented missing witches
00:29:28.780 tangents to talk about the binary, and how this term got worked into contemporary culture.
00:29:34.080 When we say binary, we mean things that are opposites, or set up in opposition to one another.
00:29:40.020 Either this, or that. In the language of computers, binary code for example, there are only
00:29:47.400 ones and zeros. Nothing else. Day, night, black, white, good, bad. But to view the world in only
00:29:57.980 sets of this's and that's is, as we've seen over and over again, easy, uncomplicated, and deeply,
00:30:08.620 deeply dangerous. It sets everything up as oppositional. Everything that is set up on
00:30:18.020 one side of the binary is also equated with another binary, good, bad. Day and night are
00:30:26.440 opposites, sure, but can we all agree that some of the most magical times are held in those blurred
00:30:32.600 spectral moments between the two. The dusk, the dawn, the in-between times.
00:30:41.500 The binary we are almost always talking about when we use this term non-binary is man-woman.
00:30:47.780 Some people feel trapped by society's expectation that we fit into one and only one of two,
00:30:53.640 only two options, male or female. The binary says red or blue only, but I don't want to live
00:31:02.440 in a world without purple. Purple is my favourite colour. On the academic English lit tip of the
00:31:10.200 binary discussion lies the concept of binary opposition. When I first learned about these
00:31:15.060 deconstruction theories and movement, I felt like I had found a name for the cultural dissidence I
00:31:20.140 felt like I was born with. They ask, does this mean what we think it means, or what we're supposed
00:31:26.760 to think it means? Let's take this apart and see. And they proved with literary and cultural
00:31:32.720 criticism that meaning, all meaning, is imposed by our reading. That humanity, that art, that
00:31:40.620 meaning is not yes or no, but maybe, maybe, maybe, what do you think? And not just what does it mean,
00:31:49.580 but how does it mean, and why does it mean, and can it mean something different? Ultimately,
00:31:58.040 binary gender expression rules are all a bunch of baloney anyway. Historically, regular old manly 1.00
00:32:04.760 men have worn everything from wigs to robes to kilts. The first high heels were made for men.
00:32:12.000 Everyone has body hair. Okay, okay, except for those with alopecia, shout out to my hairless 1.00
00:32:17.480 homies, everyone has body hair. Pink is for girls and blue is for boys, is a pretty recent marketing 0.98
00:32:23.940 construct. So wear what you want, be who you want, choose your own name, impose your meaning onto the
00:32:32.640 world, and more importantly, let's all work and strive to create a world where everyone is safe
00:32:40.520 to do so. As I said, Maria often emphasized the egalitarian nature of the society she was
00:32:47.360 theorizing. Matriarchal hierarchy structures, in her opinion, are the same as a patriarchal society, 1.00
00:32:54.420 not the actual opposite. She wrote, an egalitarian society is one without hierarchy. 0.98
00:33:02.680 I'm going to say that again. An egalitarian society is without hierarchy.
00:33:10.520 In The Living Goddess, she wrote clearly that while female form seems to dominate, this is simply because birth was a most sacred mystery.
00:33:18.940 In fact, one of her most important discoveries was a birthing room, walls painted red.
00:33:24.500 Maria was a feminist, certainly, but she was not, as some have accused, a skewed, man-hating revisionist.
00:33:30.560 She wrote,
00:33:40.520 woman's body was regarded as parthenogenic, that is, creating life out of itself. The female body 0.95
00:33:48.780 gives evidence of maternity, while the male body does not give evidence of paternity. The male 0.50
00:33:53.580 element and symbolism was significant. Male animals and humans stimulate and enhance life,
00:34:00.660 particularly plant growth. They are seen as an important part of the process of becoming,
00:34:06.940 but do not actually create life. In Neolithic art and myth, the male deities appear as partners
00:34:14.720 of the goddesses. In Maria's thinking, the role of the father in the creation of life in prehistoric
00:34:22.280 antiquity may not have been valued only because it was not understood. Nonetheless, everyone was
00:34:30.220 seen as having a valuable role. I want to take a second here to quote some of our witches found.
00:34:35.900 Jackie Beaumont, and I'm paraphrasing here, finds it super problematic that Mother Earth is given, quote, feminine attributes, that femininity is painted as soft, non-aggressive, compliant, but Mother Earth is as destructive as she is creative, as rigid as she is supple, as terrifying as she is nurturing.
00:34:58.620 and our Found Witch of the Week, archaeologist Vanessa Olivier Lloyd, whose full interview you'll
00:35:04.820 hear on Wednesday, have reminded me that matriarchy isn't synonymous with peace, that an ancient
00:35:10.280 matrilineal society of Quebec's First Nations people would capture men from other tribes to 0.90
00:35:15.280 replace fallen warriors. What Gimbutas claims to have found was not matriarchal or hierarchical,
00:35:22.180 but egalitarian. If we simply flip the binary instead of dismantling it, we will have solved
00:35:29.700 nothing. We've pondered so many times, Risa and I, to each other and with you all here on the
00:35:35.940 Missing Witches podcast about the nature of patriarchy and how it started and why. What
00:35:40.940 happened? It's just like some baffling decisions got made at some point in prehistory that people
00:35:46.560 and the earth should be conquered and subjugated, that women should be silent. And we've all seen 0.51
00:35:52.460 some caveman cartoon of him whacking a cavewoman over the head with a club and dragging her back
00:35:57.640 to his cave. We've been led to believe that it's just always been that way. Man strong, woman weak,
00:36:04.180 the female of the species forced into servitude to pay for her protection against a cruel world. 0.95
00:36:10.060 Gimbutas is perhaps the closest I've come to getting some kind of answer to our question,
00:36:14.700 has it always been this way? Well, Maria Gimbutas is here to say emphatically, no. These pieces of
00:36:22.820 10,000 year old evidence say different. It's a resounding no. It has not always been this way.
00:36:31.080 A peaceful, earth-connected society is possible. An egalitarian society is, or at very least,
00:36:40.720 was possible. Let me just stress this one more time. In her digs, Maria found thousands of
00:36:48.380 artifacts, but not one weapon. Not a single tool of war. Let that sink in for a second.
00:36:57.980 A society who was herding animals, practicing agriculture, creating pottery and art had no
00:37:03.380 use for weapons. No concept of war. As we always say, when you go looking for witches, you find
00:37:13.220 them everywhere. Wonderful, wacky, and wise witches. You can't research a witch without
00:37:18.780 finding at least two more. I came upon an interview with Maria conducted earnestly and
00:37:24.600 eagerly by a woman named Star Goody. It's a YouTube upload of a cable access program,
00:37:30.180 a series that ran from 1986 till 1991 called The Goddess in Art.
00:37:36.400 Captioned as,
00:37:37.660 Dedicated to the return of the goddess,
00:37:40.200 the series explored the legacy of this oldest tradition in art
00:37:43.660 as well as feminist spirituality in contemporary art.
00:37:47.420 The moderator, Star Goody,
00:37:49.540 interviewed scholars to uncover her, 0.92
00:37:51.860 that's capital H, her,
00:37:53.380 suppressed history and artists 0.99
00:37:55.220 who were inspired by a radical reimagining of the feminine.
00:37:59.620 The show is comical in its visual datedness, but that's what's so fun about it.
00:38:04.800 It's like a time capsule that, for me, as a child of the 80s, brings delightful waves of nostalgia,
00:38:10.660 but still has relevance for me as a witch of the 21st century.
00:38:14.540 In the archaeology of digging through the infinite strata of the internet,
00:38:19.180 there are many, many treasures to discover,
00:38:21.940 and the Goddess in Art series feels like a prize find to be placed among Maria's unearthed carvings
00:38:27.980 in the continuing history of goddess worship. Please, witches, promise me that you'll check
00:38:35.200 out Star Goody's YouTube channel. I'm sure by the time this airs, I'll have watched every episode.
00:38:40.560 Linked in the show notes, as always. In her notes for the Maria episode, Star writes,
00:38:46.040 One of the greatest scholars of the 20th century, Maria Gimbutas, through her work as an archaeologist, 0.78
00:38:52.300 uncovered the symbolic language and provided a foundation for feminist spirituality. One of my
00:38:59.320 favorite parts of the Interview Coom slideshow is the sound of Maria's voice as she speaks these
00:39:04.100 words. The image of death is combined with the symbols of regeneration. That is continuous
00:39:12.540 through time for millennia. 1.00
00:39:17.440 In a way, Maria was the ultimate binary smasher. 0.77
00:39:21.360 Male, female, past, future, life, death. 0.85
00:39:26.560 In the afterword to the Living Goddesses,
00:39:29.040 editor Miriam Robbins Dexter wrote,
00:39:31.980 Maria concluded this, her final book,
00:39:35.160 with the goddesses, gods, and spirits of the Balts.
00:39:38.460 It is perhaps fitting that she ended this book
00:39:41.160 with a long section on Lithuanian folklore, since it was the Baltic goddesses, particularly the
00:39:46.840 Latvian and from the Lithuanian, with whom she had felt a kinship since her childhood. Throughout
00:39:53.200 her life, her native country, its folklore, language, and customs remained foremost in her
00:39:58.960 heart. When she was a child, she learned of the Lithuanian goddesses, gods, and spirits,
00:40:04.940 honored even in the early part of the 20th century. These deities peopled the landscape
00:40:10.720 of her spirit, enriching her love for the land, waters, flowers, trees. Maria Gimbutas was an 0.96
00:40:18.500 ecologist decades before the word became popularized, and her home in the hills of
00:40:23.660 Topango, California reflected her love of nature. This love became a foundation stone in her own
00:40:30.700 philosophy of life and her personal spirituality. In the last decade of life, Maria Gimbutas' own
00:40:37.340 ecological and spiritual beliefs found resonance in the growing spiritual and ecological movements
00:40:43.120 in the United States and abroad. Her books, as well as her presence, became a strong focus in
00:40:49.180 ecological movements, so much so that many people, perhaps without intending to, learned quite a bit
00:40:55.260 of archaeology. Maria Gimbutas's philosophies, describing a world where men and women might
00:41:01.240 live in harmony with one another and with their environment, found a home in the hearts of
00:41:06.260 thousands of people, helping to shape the ideas of a new generation of ecologists. Women and men
00:41:13.960 in the fields of ecological science, anthropology, folklore, and mythology, as well as archaeology,
00:41:21.640 have been touched and transformed by the works of Maria Gimbutas.
00:41:29.520 Maria has had a lot of detractors over the years. Every strong woman is a witch and is hunted, 0.88
00:41:35.280 right? I've seen her work described as off-the-wall, eccentric, hippie, and even 0.92
00:41:41.480 horse feathers. One of her biggest and most scornful critics was Colin Renfrew, a geneticist
00:41:48.080 who claimed that such a large ancient society, as Maria suggested, based on her findings of
00:41:53.940 reoccurring symbols and so on, was impossible. Turns out, it just took a while for science to
00:41:59.780 catch up to what Maria Gimbutas already knew. We now have the technology to analyze DNA,
00:42:06.120 to map and trace genetics. So in 2017, Colin took to the stage at the University of Chicago
00:42:13.420 and declared, Maria's hypothesis has been magnificently vindicated.
00:42:20.980 Maria was right. She is said to have told a colleague that it might take decades,
00:42:26.080 but eventually the value of her work would be recognized. In a letter she wrote to her
00:42:31.120 old Lithuanian college professor, she said, I planted my seed as well as I could. 0.79
00:42:37.740 And that goes for you too, witches, with your planting seeds of crazy ideas, it might take
00:42:43.980 decades. You may not even live to see how you changed the world. You may never know how the 0.95
00:42:50.420 magic of you can ripple waves into the future. So plant your seed as well as you can. Live your
00:42:57.840 truth, even if no one gets you right now, and make it easier for others to live theirs.
00:43:03.780 On that note, I'd like to leave you for today with some advice from Maria, and I hope her words will resonate with you and shake you out of preconceptions of prehistory and headlong into the present and future of our civilization and of your brand new day on this ancient earth.
00:43:23.560 Don't be sheep. Do what you want to do. It's very important to be mobilized, to have determination to do what is meaningful.
00:43:34.080 If you feel a need to do something, you must do it. 0.96
00:43:43.040 You must be a witch. 0.52
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