Missing Witches - Missing Witches： Witches Found - Self Care with Beisha

00:00:00.000 Hey, witches! It's Amy from Missing Witches coming at you with another episode of Witches

00:00:21.040 Found. I'm super excited to share this week's episode with you because Risa was with us. Yay!

00:00:27.480 We spoke to an Ayurvedic practitioner, and also as a special treat, we reached out to Ipsito Roy Chakraverti via email, and she got back to us.

00:00:38.840 So we're going to unpack her answers with the help of an Ayurvedic practitioner and good friend of ours, Besha.

00:00:45.560 Yay. Enjoy.

00:00:46.420 So Ayurveda is the ancient medicinal system in India.

00:00:52.580 So Ayur means the science of life, basically.

00:00:58.840 So the Vedas are the books that carry this knowledge.

00:01:03.320 So Ayurveda is basically what encompasses self-care and values and belief systems around that from India.

00:01:13.840 It originated in India.

00:01:15.560 It's like 5,000 years, something like that. 0.94

00:01:17.820 Like pretty old.

00:01:20.100 Yeah.

00:01:20.320 So we chose Beysha as an expert in Indian-style self-care to play the part of Ipsita Roy Chakravarti in this email interview.

00:01:32.860 So thank you so much, Beysha, for bringing your expertise to this.

00:01:37.540 Thank you very much for inviting me.

00:01:40.080 Yeah, and I feel like for context, it's Risa, hi.

00:01:44.900 I'm not going to be in all of the Witches Found interviews because Amy's doing them.

00:01:49.700 because I'm now eight months pregnant and just moved last week to live up north and we're here

00:01:57.200 with Ayurveda Beysha and Amy in my house where I live now which is weird um and uh yeah so we

00:02:06.020 you guys maybe listened to the episode with Episcita um if you haven't maybe go listen to

00:02:11.660 that first or you know you can listen to us talk about it and make references to it for like a half

00:02:17.680 an hour before you do that's your call um yeah and we reached out to her like thinking maybe

00:02:25.840 this incredible first of all having the realization she's alive like this this witch

00:02:32.100 that we found who like lived in montreal when she was little like that we have these connections to

00:02:36.900 is like still alive still a human person a human person create these legends yeah in our minds and

00:02:43.300 They become titans.

00:02:44.560 Yes. 0.99

00:02:45.400 And it's still like a badass practicing witch.

00:02:48.080 And we reached out to her and did not expect a response,

00:02:50.720 but heard back from her through Deepta.

00:02:54.340 Shout out Deepta.

00:02:55.060 Shout out Deepta. 0.60

00:02:55.700 Your rep and we think daughter, but definitely rep. 0.88

00:02:58.740 Yeah.

00:02:59.680 And we were able to send her some questions,

00:03:03.480 some follow-up questions based on the episode

00:03:06.240 and us reading her books

00:03:08.160 and just kind of being excited about what she's thinking about these days.

00:03:11.440 So that's the context for these questions.

00:03:13.300 But then I wanted to ask you, because you're here as our guest, and we can cut this out if you don't feel comfortable answering, but how does a white girl from North Bay, Ontario, find Ayurveda?

00:03:28.380 yeah good question i think it was a combination of two things um by the time i was 20 um i was

00:03:38.500 ready to continue exploring my uh spiritual beliefs starting out being catholic and found

00:03:44.840 some limitations and uh so different hindu quotes and different hinduism started to like

00:03:51.600 filter into my life and draw my draw my interest and my mind just started to to grow uh spiritually

00:04:00.380 from there and um and the other side of the coin is just not having health care not great great

00:04:08.200 health care here's like finding a family doctor i don't i think it's like 10 years 15 years and

00:04:12.640 i've been on waiting lists and and so it's like you know wanting to take um my own health in my

00:04:18.720 own hands and be preventative because I didn't see a lot of, uh, um, hope honestly, um, at that

00:04:24.900 time for access, uh, proper access. So, um, between the two, they just naturally grew and

00:04:31.920 living in urban centers, my access to, to information and people, uh, was just, um,

00:04:39.220 was there. So it naturally grew from that point. Was there, um, a school that you went to? Is

00:04:46.320 their training? Yeah, definitely. So my own organic growth with Hinduism kind of started

00:04:51.820 at that point. But officially, I, it was only through a certain axis in my life where I was

00:04:59.880 changing my idea about my career and wanting what I wanted to focus on, where I, I just found 0.94

00:05:08.680 Anita, which she's a fourth generation Vidya from India in Montreal. And 0.98

00:05:14.620 Do you want to shout out her name one more time? 1.00

00:05:17.060 Anita Sharma.

00:05:18.540 Yeah, the Ayurvedic Institute in Montreal.

00:05:22.280 And I went to go and visit her.

00:05:25.160 And I knew right away it was just a calling.

00:05:30.980 It was like, even though I had no idea what it was going to lead into,

00:05:35.000 I thought it would only be my personal journey.

00:05:36.960 And I took the leap of faith that I could handle this ultimately crazy, complex learning with her and embarked on a three-year education with her, like Gurukuma style.

00:05:54.980 So you're on the floor and it's a very small group and it's for a couple of years and you fulfill a training, become certified and your whole life changes.

00:06:05.000 but it's not something it's not a learning that stops like you're now studying ayurvedic

00:06:10.060 astrology oh yeah yeah this is a lifelong it really the thing is that it taps into every

00:06:16.120 aspect of life like hinduism you know we'll talk about from the economy to you know every aspect

00:06:21.720 of life's law so similarly in ayurveda it really really explores such a vast area of health and

00:06:29.540 it reaches to the cosmos basically so yeah i'll never be able to you know have all the all the

00:06:36.180 learning and education this one lifetime so definitely yeah it's an ongoing process and you

00:06:42.340 teach yoga and yeah yeah i think without it i have to like embody part of the like space to hold this

00:06:51.440 sacred knowledge and yoga is just like keeps opening all that tightness so it's yeah just

00:06:57.660 so complimentary to do them together the little bit that i know about ayurveda which is so small

00:07:03.520 um has to do with and this is just my total ignorance but there's like body people with

00:07:11.680 different have different body types or energy so i met someone who was a ayurveda student who

00:07:19.560 like i was organizing an event at the time and she certainly she was trying to explain this to

00:07:24.400 the group and the group was asking like what type of person am I what type of person am I and they

00:07:29.080 went what type of person is Risa and right away she was like oh she's she's fire like that like 1.00

00:07:36.660 and I was like you don't know me do you want to break down the doshas tell us what doshas are 0.99

00:07:43.180 yeah break them down real quick it's um so all of life is is um explored through the concepts of

00:07:51.860 the elements so the fire air water earth ether and so we all have all of the elements within us

00:07:57.840 it's just we're each a unique snowflake and we have our own makeup but there's like dna there's

00:08:03.320 genetic there's tendencies and so everyone does lean towards uh you know a favor a favorable or

00:08:10.580 unfavorable however you want to see it um the spectrum so basically it'll come down to

00:08:17.480 um the doshas are vata pitta and kapha and these are these like types that reason yeah they're the

00:08:24.940 mixes of the fire and the earth and the water and you know they're they're kind of broken up that 0.82

00:08:29.120 way and that you know comes down to your from your emotions to your plasma to your you know how

00:08:34.480 what what is your makeup how much in your cookie dough how much chocolate do you have how much

00:08:39.020 sugar do you have basically it's just that so what kind of cookie do you taste like after

00:08:42.340 and then the gunas which are bigger and um vaster than that but similar the gunas are

00:08:49.040 there's three gunas so rajas tamas and sattva so that kind of explains um how the whole universe

00:08:56.060 is within those three systems too whereas rajas is like a crazy intense energy sattva is very

00:09:02.740 blissful and um tamas could be like heavy or depressive or i mean i'm using very limited

00:09:09.640 terms there's so many ways to describe those those energies but basically that's the that's

00:09:15.720 the it kind of sounds like the medieval humors totally to me and but so this is where i've kind

00:09:22.300 of always had a stopping point with it because i'm like wasn't that bullshit didn't we figure 0.85

00:09:25.540 that that that was like you can't cure sicknesses by just eating if you have a fever eating something

00:09:30.200 cold or whatever but i did feel like there was not to be like a doubter but also just to maybe

00:09:35.100 be the voice of some people listening who are like tell me more yeah yeah exactly and so there's

00:09:40.360 there's literature that connects those and to kind of see where yeah where the boundaries and

00:09:44.320 how they interact and stuff so uh there is all those experiences that are also um documented

00:09:51.460 within you know using those uh those sciences that had been developed at you know those times

00:09:56.440 however with the the difference in my limited knowledge is that because it extends so vastly

00:10:03.900 the ayurveda and it touches on so many other spectrums that it's it is just a vaster body so

00:10:11.140 in terms of like preventing or effects and you're going from like i kind of mentioned from the

00:10:16.760 tiniest atom cell to the cosmos so if you can imagine your body in in a complex scenario that

00:10:23.340 way and to get back to your medieval thing i think western culture does sort of have a habit of like

00:10:29.680 taking amazingly vast things from other cultures and breaking them down into like incorrect sure

00:10:37.060 this is science now you guys yeah we put leeches on you i read about it one time

00:10:41.640 so maybe the medieval you know western medieval culture didn't get it right but maybe you know

00:10:48.260 yeah because in ayurveda it's not just they don't disconnect like in and they don't just in

00:10:52.420 hinduism same thing and it breaks down in their own culture how they live out things but it's not

00:10:57.560 it's not limited to uh then and there's no there's no um there's no ends to the the knowledge that 0.88

00:11:04.540 brings you somewhere within your health spectrum i mean whether it be a god that could like have

00:11:09.940 and mantras or or yoga postures or or um food or herbs or family or you know just touches on

00:11:19.260 everything so there's no stopping or ending whereas some of this knowledge is more limited

00:11:23.680 to the healthcare practitioner and the, like what we're going to do with this acute or

00:11:29.060 the scenario, as opposed to how are you living everything?

00:11:32.780 And that's sort of like, um, uh, Beysha is my Ayurveda, full disclosure.

00:11:37.960 And the first time we met, you know, in a friendly way, but, and then I sought her out

00:11:43.340 as a client and she asked me more questions than all the doctors that I've ever had.

00:11:52.120 all put together, you know, questions that doctors have never asked me. And so I got the

00:11:58.560 sense that Ayurveda is less about being a doctor, less about being a healer and more about being a

00:12:04.880 teacher of self-care. Would you agree with that? Yeah, I would refrain from using the word teacher

00:12:12.480 because I really like to see it that I'm trying to be a mirror and I'm trying to mirror back to

00:12:18.140 the person um everything they've expressed to me and so they can be empowered to recognize that

00:12:25.820 and recognize themselves their own patterns and habits that possibly may be contributing to their

00:12:30.920 suffering so like a self-care mentor yeah yeah that might be a little more i wanted to go back

00:12:38.580 to that um that you said that you kind of found your way to it because of struggles with the

00:12:45.680 healthcare system um because that obviously i think that's a point that the three of us have

00:12:51.420 in common um was and i don't know so much about your story but it sounds like similar that there

00:12:56.760 was something chronic that like there's i actually first of all shout out to canadian

00:13:01.160 healthcare it's quite awesome super thankful for it we're all nodding enthusiastically

00:13:06.280 everybody gets socialized medicine get having a surgery and not getting a bill at the end of it

00:13:11.700 is i can't even imagine people who live in the states and have to deal with the constant fear

00:13:16.120 of yeah getting hurt totally and then getting a bill oh my god so be it resolved yeah thank you

00:13:21.260 canada you're problematic you're not perfect what we love you everybody gets socialized medicine

00:13:24.760 america we want it for you we love you um but i did you know i go to the doctor every week now

00:13:32.580 because i'm gonna pop this human out any second and i don't pay for that and i'm not gonna pay

00:13:37.840 for my, you know, my private room at my hospital and all this kind of stuff. So shout out to all

00:13:41.680 of that miracle. That's incredible. But, uh, I did have a migraine for 10 years straight

00:13:47.500 from the time that I was like 17 to 27 or 15 to 25 around there. And, uh, I definitely hit on the,

00:13:57.360 the raw edges of a healthcare system where I sort of fell off the edge. I mean, I was just

00:14:03.760 at one point just prescribed so many different pills for a young person i would wait an hour

00:14:09.260 to see a doctor for five minutes who would tell me that it was all in my head or all of this kind

00:14:14.280 of stuff and i mean for me i found a way out of chronic pain and i know a lot of people don't

00:14:20.200 and i'm thankful for it all the time and it wasn't through ayurveda although when i encountered

00:14:24.600 ayurveda many years later i was like oh this idea of something that looked at the whole person

00:14:30.060 this could have helped this probably could help for me it was alexander training that ended up

00:14:36.480 helping but that was after years of yoga and you know therapy and all of these changes in my head

00:14:43.940 too basha i know you have some experience with alexander therapy i know nothing so can you guys

00:14:49.440 talk about that for a second yeah i i really fell in love immediately when i experienced my first

00:14:56.060 moment with it. I had met a woman and I was going to this institute, Thomas More Institute,

00:15:02.980 this great institute here in Montreal that explores all these fantastic topics. And

00:15:07.080 she was an Alexander technician. And I had told her I was, you know, getting a sort of shoulder

00:15:11.920 from work, blah, blah, blah. She's like, well, let me just, let me just introduce this little

00:15:17.400 idea to you. Can you imagine the space between you and the back wall behind you? And I was like,

00:15:25.300 what the hell excuse me but as i was thinking that i was like oh my god my shoulder is starting

00:15:33.940 to feel amazing so yeah she and then we did a couple sessions together um and and honestly

00:15:41.240 it's still mysterious to me because i haven't found a lot of actual literature that explores

00:15:45.480 the depth of it it just kind of touches in and out of it okay but i'm the ignoramus over here

00:15:51.720 i know alexander method isn't imagine the wall behind you like what can you yeah that's obviously

00:15:59.440 a technique in my experience um and this is like i'm nodding but that nobody's told me to imagine

00:16:06.200 the wall behind me um but and my sister went to the same um like trainer or whatever as i did and

00:16:12.900 she had a completely different experience than i did so i think it would be really different

00:16:15.940 for each person, because it is about how you are using your, um, skeleton and your musculature and

00:16:24.180 your fascia and your mind in, in your space, in your day to day. So for me, it was, I think I went

00:16:33.160 for like six months, three times a week or something like that. And I basically stood up

00:16:38.160 and sat down. And cause for me it was, I had, I'd had a bad fall and then I had built a system of

00:16:47.740 protecting my neck after a fall. So yeah, all of us are doing the same gesture. Our shoulders are

00:16:53.380 up high and my head was rammed down. So there was no space between the bones of my skull and the top

00:17:01.320 of my vertebrae because I was trying to protect all in there. And in, um, x-rays, they showed

00:17:07.580 all of my vertebrae and my neck were touching. They're not supposed to do that. Um, and there

00:17:13.440 was just sort of these like cascading effects all down my spine and in my pelvic bones and in my

00:17:18.200 shoulders. And so it's crazy to me that the most effective thing that I did was stand up and sit

00:17:24.260 down, but he stood behind me and I would stand up and he would just with the lightest touch on the

00:17:29.900 back of my head be like and he had a skeleton in the room and pictures of what a healthy musculature

00:17:34.560 look like and and healthy in the sense of like you know someone who hasn't lived in western society

00:17:40.580 for their whole life so healthy in the sense of like you lived in where there was trees and you

00:17:45.200 swam and you know you used your body a little more differently than we do in these you know

00:17:49.620 hard chairs or whatever so different types of like skeletons around and he would kind of point

00:17:55.360 to them and then touch his hand on the back of my head and be like do you need to hold this

00:17:59.600 okay sit down you know and then touch his hand between my shoulder blades and be like do you

00:18:05.060 need to hold this while you stand up i don't think you do like i think this holds this on its own

00:18:09.820 okay sit down and then be like you tensed all of this to sit down do you need to hold that

00:18:14.720 i don't think this is involved in sitting down you know or he would just hold my my elbow my

00:18:20.280 arm out and then be like while i was sitting and be like i'm holding this now you don't you're not

00:18:26.440 holding it and i can feel it right now i'm holding amy's arm and she's holding all the weight of her

00:18:30.680 arm she's not letting me hold her arm yeah and then he'd be like okay but this you don't have

00:18:36.420 to hold your head there you can you can you can put your uh your vertebrae can stack nicely they

00:18:41.760 can stack nicely on their own and little gestures and like i'm trying to pull amy's shoulder it's

00:18:46.220 all tight in her shoulder like she's dead to me and i'm sure that's what it was like when he was

00:18:51.600 adjusting me too because in my head i would be fighting him and be like i'm not holding that 0.99

00:18:56.780 except i need to hold that fuck you um which is not at all an explanation of what alexander 0.98

00:19:03.600 training is but that was my experience standing up and sitting down and having it like reminding 0.99

00:19:09.440 your body to care for itself and like you don't need this stress i looked up and i like you you

00:19:15.140 know uh there's you know scientific trials that show its effectiveness for back pain and head

00:19:20.800 pain but it does get applied way more broadly than that so be careful because there aren't 0.81

00:19:25.680 blind trials supporting its usefulness for fucking everything of course you know keep 0.66

00:19:30.840 keep searching um but yeah it kind of i think it came out of like dance and the arts i know a lot 0.90

00:19:36.620 of people in um the montreal symphony orchestra use the same teacher as i do because you're going

00:19:44.140 to build your body around uh cello for example whatever anyway that's sort of a deviation but

00:19:50.180 we were talking about self-care and I think the place where our spirituality meets our body.

00:19:56.400 Cause I, I was released from a lot of different kinds of pain when I was released from that

00:20:01.060 thing. Yeah. Same with me. I, uh, my, my whole life started to unfold actually not long after

00:20:09.080 that into, uh, my training with Anita, I was going from one career to the other and Alexander

00:20:15.080 I met Alexander Technique in between.

00:20:18.460 And I think just exploring and learning and being surprised by this space that I wasn't accessing within my body.

00:20:30.680 Suddenly it was an invitation to go and explore.

00:20:34.960 So if as an Ayurveda, you can give our listeners like, what is the one thing that we all need to be doing or doing more of?

00:20:43.680 just as a general across the board? That's a great question. Because I find especially here

00:20:52.160 in the West, we're so hyper conscious of what is the right thing to eat? What is the thing not to

00:21:00.560 eat? And everyone is so bombarded by so much information and trends in healthcare. And people

00:21:08.060 are not so many people are not grounded on knowing how to discern information for themselves their

00:21:15.040 unique selves and realizing they're a unique snowflake and most of it all is all one size

00:21:20.740 fits all so honestly i immediately i'm like refraining to even answer your question because

00:21:26.180 there's so many different kind of listeners um and i don't want anyone to do yeah i'm gonna do

00:21:31.580 that that's right that's right that's she said it so it must mean that it's you know that's what

00:21:35.920 we should probably do if i'm inclined to ayurveda so maybe your one piece of advice is look inward

00:21:41.260 before you look outward completely and and and oddly enough i'll say you know look to the place

00:21:49.940 where your spirit and your body meets and to see what that is telling you before you go out

00:21:56.640 where is this place how do we access this place where our spirits and our bodies meet

00:22:00.860 And it's in the, maybe the quietness of the challenge you're living within, which we're

00:22:14.320 usually just running from and going to buy back a pack of pills or let me buy this Ayurvedic

00:22:19.980 herb.

00:22:22.080 And then I'll send you back and say, well, why don't you just go and listen to your favorite

00:22:27.480 song for a while and contemplate and if you really think you need to come back and buy it

00:22:31.620 then come back but don't buy it now because it's not coming from the right place sorry kids no easy

00:22:38.540 answers here this reminds me we started our missing which is instagram and we love the people that we

00:22:46.220 get to meet there and then we had this heartbreaking day where i think we posted a photo of a love

00:22:51.960 spell or something or love yourself. Oh yeah. Always self-love. Yeah. Basically all the spells

00:22:57.920 that Amy and I do are self-love spells. And we, we've been like improvising magic together now

00:23:03.700 for several years. And we are not people who we like to study stuff. Obviously we wouldn't have

00:23:09.420 a research based podcast if not, but we are real heavy in the, uh, fuck you. I figured it out 1.00

00:23:16.920 myself kind of magic and also you know we've seen a lot of positive effects from the things that

00:23:22.380 we've improvised so we feel pretty comfortable with our method and and our method is always

00:23:27.720 learning and always improvising so i think you posted something like that that was beautiful

00:23:32.500 and tries to touch on how that practice works for us and then we had people messaging us

00:23:37.620 desperate for a love spell and shocked that we didn't sell love spells like oh do you guys do

00:23:45.540 love spells and we're like no and they're like really like yeah that we wouldn't provide a

00:23:51.320 recipe that we wouldn't sell something or that we don't and we would say this like i think we

00:23:57.900 answered all of the inquiries with we do spells for self-love or like a global love you know

00:24:05.820 maybe all care for each other and love each other but i would not me personally and honestly

00:24:11.660 do what you got to do to get yourself through the night but i personally believe that a love

00:24:18.280 that comes from me messing with a person's free will is not love and and an extension of that

00:24:25.240 outside of magic if somebody loves me for the person that i'm pretending to be they don't love

00:24:31.240 me so i don't get any sustenance from that i don't get any sustenance from somebody loving a character

00:24:37.720 that I've put on for them to play and I think of love spells as the same exactly the same thing

00:24:42.900 if I have to force you I mean okay and again like pay attention to me spell sure notice me yeah sure

00:24:49.960 you know because sometimes that there's no school to go to here's how you fall in love there's no

00:24:55.800 college degree that you can get that's like here's how you find a relationship it is luck honestly

00:25:00.900 it's magic it's whatever yeah you know i like you know i've i follow and read some witches who are 0.52

00:25:08.660 like you want to do a love spell and someone fucking do it like try it and then you'll see 1.00

00:25:15.160 what you manifest from that what your what your shadow creates from that and it'll fuck with you 0.99

00:25:21.920 in a unique way that will help you grow so if you want to do that i mean do spells do magic because 0.95

00:25:28.300 we're we're making the world every day anyway you know the way we act in the world the way we speak

00:25:33.440 the things we choose to consume or not consume the people we surround ourselves with the choices we

00:25:38.480 make we're creating our worlds anyway this is the alchemy of life this is the alchemy of life 1.00

00:25:43.560 you want to try to you know do a spell to make a specific sexy bartender at your work fuck you 0.95

00:25:51.080 try it and it might make you more confident and it might change how you interact with that person 1.00

00:25:55.560 and he might turn out to be a douchebag and it might be that douchebag that pushes you 0.97

00:25:59.840 finally over the edge of not dating douchebags, speaking from personal experience. 0.97

00:26:04.780 I mean, the successful love spell in my life was I was dating somebody I didn't know was

00:26:12.580 a horrible person and I wanted the relationship to go to the next level and I improvised a

00:26:19.900 spell with a witchy friend of ours and we walked around the house and we found things 0.87

00:26:24.500 that symbolized the kind of relationship we wanted in our future we were like this whatever it is

00:26:31.160 this a vintage zippo lighter represents like a sexy flame and it represents kind of a vintage

00:26:38.360 romance and this piece of leather represents like you know someone who's earthy and this

00:26:44.500 camping gear represents someone who wants to be outdoors with me and this represents you know

00:26:49.000 someone who's really excited to have kids with me and this represents like a hot sex life and this

00:26:52.600 and it wasn't about like i want this person to ask me to marry them it was like this is the life i

00:26:58.280 want or some person like this bring them into my life this is what i want for my life and within

00:27:05.840 about three weeks that person i was dating showed his true colors disappeared from my life tore my

00:27:11.720 life apart and within three months i was with a person i never would have expected who fulfilled

00:27:17.760 all of those dreams and more because i think that part of that magic was you've expressed 0.99

00:27:23.960 very clearly what you want we're gonna light your fucking life on fire until you get that 0.98

00:27:27.880 sometimes literally sometimes literally oh my god yes but i i i have to be careful honestly 0.99

00:27:35.280 because i characterize my magic as mean auntie magic okay so for those of you don't know me

00:27:42.920 personally um i sort of have this role of mean auntie yeah i mean i'm the friend who's gonna

00:27:48.880 tell it to you like it is obviously i love you everything comes from a place but i'm gonna tell

00:27:53.120 you the truth because that's what i think friendship is friendship isn't about patting

00:27:57.140 you on the head and going nice job and watching you walk off a cliff you know friendship is like

00:28:01.800 stop you're about to walk off a cliff and i find my magic manifests in the same way exactly what

00:28:08.540 you were talking about not what you think you want but like what you need like sometimes but

00:28:15.280 it's always in the same thing like you know you're manifesting whatever it is but it never comes to

00:28:21.560 you in the expected way and it's always like full of truth bombs yes so like i have to be careful 0.99

00:28:26.340 with my mean auntie magic yeah i mean i think that's the good shit that's the real shit those 0.99

00:28:32.080 are the people you want around you you know the mean auntie magic like don't expect that the 0.99

00:28:37.000 spells that you do what you manifest is gonna be how you think it's gonna go down it's not gonna

00:28:43.520 be gentle no not gentle and probably most assuredly not what you expect yeah yeah like what you need

00:28:51.920 but what you not what you want yeah what you didn't want to see because your shape in the

00:28:56.200 universe is a lot bigger than you know so it's gonna it's gonna be like yeah it's gonna be uh

00:29:01.600 it's going to be bigger and crazier and rougher waters than than what you expect i think

00:29:06.860 alchemy is you're rolling your eyes

00:29:09.420 yeah i manifested this whole experience i'm living out with this um this this new person

00:29:18.880 in my life and just as it just said it's totally unfolding so big and large and complex it started

00:29:26.820 out smaller and now it's i'm just realizing there's just so much in it that now it's my

00:29:32.940 moment to kind of use my ayurveda to back out a bit and reflect on what it is i've created

00:29:39.600 what i want to take ownership of what now is like for me and maybe not for me at this point too and

00:29:47.560 to keep working out and and continue on the journey for you to recognize like what's happening

00:29:53.660 your life is what you manifested it gives you like a different sense of your own life like

00:29:59.320 recognizing your agency recognizing you know instead of going oh my life's crazy saying like

00:30:06.320 i manifested this why i'm in control of it how yeah all these things and you know i'd say that's

00:30:13.260 what um people that may be either turned on or off to ayurveda that's the one place uh that is

00:30:19.820 kind of cuts it is whether someone believes that um their action part of their actions and their

00:30:26.060 responsibilities for what they're doing is caught also in turn causing good but bad for their bodies

00:30:32.460 let's say or their health or their suffering and some people believe it's completely outside of

00:30:37.260 their control and that any illnesses or sicknesses are just like mysteries and they got to go see the

00:30:43.040 western doctor and they're going to tell them how to cure that whereas ayurveda is kind of in that

00:30:47.700 it's like you're your own agency and you have to look at what you're doing and you're going to want

00:30:51.780 to be to work out of that and it's not just like things like smoking or eating red meat or the

00:30:57.340 things that we think of as like being quote-unquote unhealthy or whatever but like cruelty for example

00:31:02.860 in ayurveda would have an effect on your body your physiology completely yeah completely would

00:31:10.440 affect everything yeah and you'd have to you know reflect on that and then you'd have to

00:31:15.100 um find the desire for some discipline to to correct your own uh daily um effect on yourself

00:31:24.740 by what you're doing and how you're thinking yeah and that's the exciting part because then you know

00:31:29.220 you're like okay so what can i do if i maybe i can wear like red today and it will like help me

00:31:35.080 be so empowered to like do that hard thing today and that color red and your clothing which is

00:31:40.740 you know part of it again like beysha is my ayurveda and one of the first pieces of advice

00:31:46.340 she gave me was like to put a vase of flowers in my kitchen and of course you're like well

00:31:50.840 that's not gonna okay doctor but like it made her life better you know what i mean like and

00:32:02.920 and obviously you know it's please if you have cancer like

00:32:06.800 if you're in an abusive relationship you're not bringing that on yourself and you can't you know

00:32:14.100 you're not going to heal yourself by yeah buying flowers yeah it won't hurt and they're absolutely

00:32:19.680 of course like within all of this manifest there are things that are outside of our control

00:32:23.740 yeah obviously so we have to most of it most 99.9 percent of it but again like as rupaul says like

00:32:31.600 we are the alchemist of our lives yeah so that part that we can control we can control yeah and

00:32:38.580 of course alchemy is always going to be experimental too yeah we were talking earlier about failure

00:32:44.100 yeah the relationship between experimentation and and failure and how failure is a necessary

00:32:49.940 part of experimentation and experimentation is a necessary part of any kind of growth

00:32:54.380 and like rot is a necessary part of creating the soil of what tree will grow

00:33:02.700 yes yeah and of changing you know fruit into wine or something of course but for sure i mean again

00:33:10.820 like 99.9 percent of we can't control but we can control what we do we can control to a large

00:33:16.040 extent what we put in our bodies we control our own boundaries um what will allow into our lives

00:33:21.860 whether that's people or toxicity of any kind or that's patriarchy or again tobacco

00:33:28.360 and I mean one thing that I found helpful when I was coming out of migraine was like

00:33:34.220 that the understanding that the subconscious mind is repeating

00:33:37.920 a phrase or a set of phrases that we learned when we were four or five

00:33:42.720 like hundreds of thousands of times a day so if I can combat that voice that's saying like you know

00:33:51.280 you don't deserve love or you're not approved of or you're inadequate or you're dirty or you're 1.00

00:33:56.640 phony or you're you know shit covered or you're a failure or whatever it is um by like maybe a 1.00

00:34:03.080 hundred times in a day consciously saying you know you're loving and loved or that's my big 0.99

00:34:10.560 one you're loving and loved um or the everything i need comes to me with ease that amy and i have

00:34:17.760 jammed on many times. Um, that's just like speaking. That's a, that's a conscious thing

00:34:23.840 I can do to speak back to an unconscious pattern that, that is screaming, even though I can't

00:34:29.000 hear it at all times. Um, I feel like this brings us to some of these questions we asked

00:34:34.300 Episida. Yes, definitely. Okay. So I'm going to take them a little bit out of order because

00:34:38.420 I want to jump into the question about arrogant women. Wonderful. Um, so I'll read the question 1.00

00:34:44.280 that we sent to Ipacita and then Basho will read her answer and we'll chat about it and we'll

00:34:50.200 probably we'll probably get through there's only like maybe five six questions but we'll get through

00:34:54.060 them we just want to take up a lot of her time we were so grateful that she was willing to

00:34:57.900 you know answer any questions we didn't want to give her yeah and we had just done all this

00:35:02.280 research and written this podcast and stuff with our like own ideas and opinions and sort of

00:35:07.100 deviations around what she had said and what we'd read in her books and so yeah we're just sort of

00:35:12.420 trying not to fuck it up too much as always anyway uh so here was the question so we'd love to hear 1.00

00:35:18.600 more of your thoughts on arrogant women and maybe how you see this idea of fitting into the me too 1.00

00:35:24.920 movement time's up hashtag is the arrogant woman finally reclaiming her time is this a phase or an 1.00

00:35:31.680 evolution and how has your own arrogance served you and how can women be more positively arrogant 0.78

00:35:38.640 You can see we're pretty excited to be asking yourself.

00:35:41.640 We're like, also this! Also this! We're so excited!

00:35:45.520 That's one question.

00:35:48.280 So, Basha, if you can read us, it's our thing.

00:35:51.000 Sure. A woman is the stronger sex. 1.00

00:35:54.600 She always was, mentally and spiritually. 1.00

00:35:58.900 Physically, her stamina is greater.

00:36:01.180 Nowadays, maybe even her sheer physical strength. 0.99

00:36:04.860 So why shouldn't she be arrogant? 0.99

00:36:06.440 I wrote in Beloved Witch that the quality sets her at par with the goddess. 0.89

00:36:14.540 If men try to invade her dignity, sanctity, and independence, they will suffer in more ways than one.

00:36:20.080 These current campaigns you mention have proved that.

00:36:24.240 At one time she accepted whatever was meted out to her as her lot.

00:36:29.680 No more.

00:36:30.820 This is an evolution, as it should be.

00:36:34.020 i have always been an arrogant woman that's why i have not been burnt and killed in this country

00:36:41.880 as of yet i live in a grossly patriarchal country however here the social status and

00:36:50.200 personal arrogance of a woman are recognized and most of my countrymen hate me but they dare not 0.93

00:36:57.660 annoy me bless you i love her she's such a badass they hate me but they dare not annoy me

00:37:09.180 i love that if men try to invade her dignity and independence they will suffer in more ways

00:37:21.400 than one so true i do come back to that in her book and i've talked to people about that before

00:37:26.740 that like she never actively does a harm spell on anyone she like maintains her relationship

00:37:34.160 with the goddess and with her own well-being and her own spirituality and she watches them fall

00:37:40.540 you know like the that that magic happens on its own yeah i think like a non-mystical version of

00:37:46.860 this it's like the best revenge is living well yes you know and back back to self-care like you

00:37:51.680 look after yourself and the universe will look after the people that have hurt you if you don't

00:37:56.340 use your energy on revenge yeah use it to live better and more yeah i'm struggling with this 0.95

00:38:03.180 a little bit now i was thinking about it last night this company that we hired fucked us over

00:38:07.660 and now they owe us like 500 bucks and i was like just sort of doing the mental math or the

00:38:12.800 emotional math of like what energy do i spend now to try to get 500 bucks back and is it worth the

00:38:18.720 sleepless nights i'll have writing them message and calling up your pregnant and angering my 0.99

00:38:24.140 pregnant and then and then and then i'll get something back from them that'll be angry and

00:38:28.160 now now now we're in an interaction that's costing me more and more and more and like

00:38:32.680 is that worth 500 bucks at what point is it not worth 500 bucks you know i don't think any of it's

00:38:37.360 worth 500 right now the uh the what the sunk cost fallacy i think we get a lot caught up into the

00:38:44.940 sunk house fallacy and to get back to mysticism like you know yesterday's gone tomorrow hasn't

00:38:50.540 come if don't throw good money after bad i'm just all full of idioms today but like don't waste your

00:38:58.480 energy on something that's already been a waste of energy right yes because you'll only sink more 0.95

00:39:05.760 yeah um speaking of uh not wasting energy on negative shit we did ask her how can we help 0.94

00:39:14.260 resist ongoing witch hunts around the world and this question specifically relates to what she 0.95

00:39:19.460 experienced in her life and she talks about in her book and we talk about in her podcast that

00:39:22.680 witch hunts are a very real and ongoing thing um not just in india but in africa and in all kinds

00:39:29.960 of places and as we want to acknowledge like we don't want to exoticize that we see that as being

00:39:35.300 a very real connection to the missing and murdered women in canada that we have strong women and

00:39:41.600 women who've been demonized going missing every day in canada and one out of six women will

00:39:47.460 experienced sexual assault. There's a massive movement to try to end the backlog in the United

00:39:52.120 States because we aren't processing rape kits, because there's all of these ways in which

00:39:56.880 I think you can see those as a context of a hundred and a thousand years of witch hunts.

00:40:02.720 Especially if we're going back to the Ipsida quote that still shakes us to our core,

00:40:07.620 and we repeat it to each other. The title of the episode that we did about her,

00:40:13.580 every strong woman is a witch 0.99

00:40:15.860 and all are hunted 1.00

00:40:17.680 so the witch hunt

00:40:19.760 is not again not it's not something

00:40:21.780 exotic it's something that happens every day

00:40:23.940 everywhere where 1.00

00:40:25.640 women are trying to 1.00

00:40:27.780 get out from under 1.00

00:40:29.520 patriarchy from under a

00:40:31.780 thumb you know this is like 0.53

00:40:33.820 don't get me started we do not have time

00:40:40.120 Should we save that for, like, season two?

00:40:51.840 Episode one, season two, the entire global history of patriarchy. 1.00

00:40:56.940 Angrily told by a ranting Amy.

00:41:01.240 Yeah, we'll just have an Amy rant.

00:41:03.600 Oh, yeah. 0.68

00:41:04.480 You know what really grinds my gears?

00:41:06.260 Patriarchies. 0.62

00:41:06.980 I'm going to start at the year zero.

00:41:09.000 Yeah.

00:41:10.120 I mean, anyway, so anyway, we asked her this question and, um, here, you want to read her

00:41:18.260 answer?

00:41:19.700 Sure.

00:41:20.300 Follow what I'm saying. 1.00

00:41:21.840 It won't stop witch hunts, but woman will become stronger and be able to resist injustice 1.00

00:41:27.740 and invasion of body and mind. 1.00

00:41:30.740 Can you repeat that, please?

00:41:33.440 Follow what I'm saying.

00:41:34.740 it won't stop witch hunts 1.00

00:41:36.840 but women will become stronger 1.00

00:41:39.280 and be able to resist 1.00

00:41:41.200 injustice and invasion

00:41:43.240 of body and mind

00:41:44.520 invasion of body and mind

00:41:47.280 like that's so

00:41:48.420 yeah

00:41:49.060 I think the key for that or like one of the core

00:41:52.900 thoughts I have about that is like

00:41:54.620 yes

00:41:56.580 you know read and follow

00:41:58.760 Ipsida 1.00

00:42:00.260 but also like find your women 0.72

00:42:02.760 find your women teachers you know

00:42:04.620 don't get stuck with one guru or these there's so many like cults and versions and schools of

00:42:11.960 patriarchy that want to invade your body and mind and you know poverty itself is one you know but

00:42:18.360 like try to find each other and support each other so that we can become stronger and able to resist

00:42:24.260 injustice it's so it's such a like rebellious act to befriend women and to to speak about these uh

00:42:32.600 it's treasonous yeah you know in a very real real way yeah yeah and to find these these like

00:42:42.400 heroes that are out there and celebrate them and share their story i mean that's what we want to

00:42:46.480 do with the podcast but it's also what we want to do in daily life amy's always been a big

00:42:50.740 yeller about this they're like i support women artists and i love that i try to do that too

00:42:58.340 so sacred so special um we asked her what's your advice for novice witches

00:43:04.860 read beloved witch

00:43:08.120 and beloved witch returns political lobbies and the press tried to boycott and wipe out the latter

00:43:22.440 book but it was published but couldn't stop it from being from reaching readers they tried to

00:43:30.960 boycott it when it was published but they couldn't stop it from reaching readers and and this is true

00:43:35.840 i've looked for this book uh you know if you can't find it on the internet like that you know

00:43:42.260 i tried to order it from india even and it you know they so i i don't think she's being paranoid

00:43:48.840 no no like i genuinely believe they has been like a very solid effort to silence her yeah

00:43:55.320 um so our next question was for witches who feel lonely or powerless

00:44:00.400 can you share some words or a spell or a meditation

00:44:05.020 so just a thought be strong and follow your star just as i believe in strength i believe in each

00:44:15.600 person having been given a certain destiny to follow follow that road with wisdom and understanding

00:44:21.640 and be cheerful about it

00:44:25.280 it's so simple

00:44:30.660 so simple but so profound yeah oh yeah um let's go back the first question that i skipped over was

00:44:44.120 How has your thinking and magical practice changed since writing Beloved Witch?

00:44:51.800 I was always a strong woman, indifferent to what others thought. I felt myself to be

00:44:58.980 a world unto myself. Now it's even more so. Perhaps my knowledge of the world,

00:45:07.180 which has also changed in many ways, is such that I find myself to be more and more

00:45:13.460 complete my magical practices have become more institutionalized in that there are more demands

00:45:21.800 on my craft my art and my knowledge wow so keep on trucking right keep on learning keep on

00:45:31.280 incorporating keep on growing out and connecting with others and incorporating and institutionalizing

00:45:38.520 your own like anita her own institute the only very first ayurvedic institute in montreal if not

00:45:47.180 like the tiny handful in canada just basically having the the strength to do something that no

00:45:54.660 one has done and said this matters and i'm gonna stamp it yeah i love that idea because i think in

00:46:03.100 my head, I, I make like institutionalized is like a dirty word, but I do love the idea

00:46:09.620 of, of like women practitioners and their allies, you know, in, in change and stuff

00:46:17.860 and that, that making these practices, uh, of fighting injustice and of making healing

00:46:24.200 the world and of connecting to each other, making them the institution, you know, bringing

00:46:29.340 them to the heart of the mainstream.

00:46:30.640 we don't have to sit on the outside and be upset we can be right you know we can be conquering the

00:46:36.560 mainstream i think we talked about this in the last episode too which we'll get to but but i mean

00:46:41.600 being an activist i think you know being such a strong woman and being you know uh hated uh

00:46:47.840 especially uh pushes her need for self-care yeah you know we know that activism is hard

00:46:55.060 and so you especially need to put the mask on you know when the airplane is going you put the mask

00:47:01.640 on yourself before you attempt to help others yeah okay so i'm going to jump to this question

00:47:07.620 we asked her how are you doing these days what are you reading what are you excited about

00:47:12.760 she wrote by the grace of a goddess i am doing good i look fabulous

00:47:19.520 my last book voice of the priestess is breaking the charts my enemies are crawling i'm spending

00:47:27.940 my time between india and london where i do lectures on a subject my wiccan brigade found

00:47:35.340 founded by me is planning psychic adventures we have already covered bhangar in rajasthan

00:47:43.880 the 64 Yogini Temple in Orisa, Nartyang, the Megalith Garden in Magalaya, if I'm pronouncing

00:47:56.040 these special words correctly, and the Sacred Forest.

00:48:00.100 I am reading up to as much as I can on the Saktah and the Pre-Vedic cultures in India.

00:48:05.940 On the lighter side, I always go back to Winnie the Pooh.

00:48:13.880 should we just end on that okay one more question i always go back to the last question

00:48:21.300 we asked her do you still bathe in rose petals and she just wrote

00:48:25.240 so from uh it be the wiccan from ayurveda besha from eight month pregnant brisa and from me

00:48:39.480 take care of yourselves

00:48:41.680 it's so important

00:48:43.760 just look after yourself babe

00:48:45.420 and everything else will fall into place

00:48:47.660 it's worth it, it really is

00:48:49.560 we love you

00:48:50.260 we love you

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