00:01:54.020It is poking and prying with a purpose.
00:01:56.780It is seeking that he who wishes may know the cosmic secrets of the world and that they dwell therein.
00:02:04.300I mean, those three sentences could easily have been the missing witch's motto, right?
00:02:09.480I was full of curiosity, like many other children.
00:02:12.440I was always asking and making myself a crow in a pigeon's nest.
00:02:16.760I got few answers from other people, but I kept right on asking because I couldn't do anything else with my feelings.
00:02:22.920But no matter whether my probings made me happier or sadder, I kept on probing to know.
00:02:28.920In her book, Zora Neale Hurston's Final Decade, Virginia Lynn Moylan writes,
00:02:34.180Hurston's favorite place in town was the front porch of Joe Clark's General Store,
00:02:38.840the hub of the town's social life, where the master storytellers spun their tales and the
00:02:44.200adult gossip often included sly references to the physical condition of women, irregular love
00:02:50.020affairs, or male potency. Children were banned from hanging around the porch too long, but Zora
00:02:55.140would risk a whipping to hide around the side and listen to the tales, the gossip, a singing
00:03:01.260liner's work song, or the soulful melodies of Bubber Mim's guitar. She was mesmerized by the
00:03:06.920menfolk's lying sessions, otherwise known as folktales, about creation, servitude, love, death,
00:03:13.680nature, and the why of things. Tales in which God, Devil, Br'er Rabbit, Br'er Fox, Ciscat, Br'er Bear,
00:03:21.840Br'er Lion, Tiger, Buzzard, and all the woodfolk walked and talked like natural men.0.93
00:03:29.600Zora would take a whipping, and she really pushed that willingness to sacrifice for her curiosity
00:03:35.500as far as she could, devoting much of her life to the almighty research. She gathered tales both
00:03:41.540formally in interviews and casually in the living room of friends to be written into her novels and
00:03:46.800essays and stories. She said, I had things clawing inside of me that must be said. Alice Walker,
00:03:55.520Pulitzer Prize winning literary giant in her own right, most famously as the author of The Color
00:04:00.580Purple, wrote extensively on Hurston. One of our favorite pieces comes from Dedication on
00:04:06.640Refusing to be Humbled by Second Place in a Contest You Did Not Design, which serves as the
00:04:12.240introduction to a Hurston anthology Walker edited. The anthology's title comes from the response
00:04:17.360Hurston gave upon seeing the results of a portrait photo shoot. She said, I love myself when I am
00:04:23.320laughing, and then again when I am looking mean and impressive. Walker covers a lot in her brief
00:04:30.060dedication, better and more eloquently and thoughtfully than we could ever hope to do
00:04:34.640ourselves. We're super grateful to Alice Walker for writing it and very happy we found it. So
00:04:39.580here's a few big chunks. A friend of mine called one day to tell me that she and another woman had
00:04:44.860been discussing Zora Neale Hurston and had decided they wouldn't have liked her. They wouldn't have
00:04:49.360liked the way when her play Colorstruck won second prize in a literary contest at the beginning of1.00
00:04:54.480her career, Hurston walked into a room full of her competitors, flung her scarf dramatically over
00:04:59.740her shoulder and yelled, color struck, at the top of her voice. Apparently, it isn't easy to like a
00:05:07.420person who is not humbled by second place. Zora Neale Hurston was outrageous, it appears, by
00:05:13.180nature. She was quite capable of saying, writing, or doing things different from what one might have0.98
00:05:18.320wished. Because she recognized the contradictions and complexity of her own personality, Robert
00:05:23.300Hemingway, her biographer, writes that Hurston came to delight in the chaos she sometimes left
00:05:29.880behind. Yet for all her contrariness, her chaos, her ability to stir up dislike that is as strong
00:05:37.380today as it was 50 years ago, many of us love Zora Neale Hurston. We do not love her for her
00:05:43.400lack of modesty. That tends to amuse us. An assertive black person during Hurston's time
00:05:48.120was considered an anomaly. We do not love her for her unpredictable and occasionally weird1.00
00:05:52.700politics, they tend to confuse us. We do not certainly applaud many of the mad things she
00:05:58.320is alleged to have said and sometimes actually did say. We do not even claim to dislike her.
00:06:03.820In reading through the 30-odd year span of her writing, most of us, I imagine,
00:06:08.640find her alternately winning and appalling, but rarely dull, which is worth a lot.
00:06:15.380We love Zora Neale Hurston for her work, first, and then again, as she and all Eatonville would
00:06:20.900say, we love her for herself, for the humor and courage with which she encountered a life she
00:06:27.040infrequently designed, and for her absolute disinterest in becoming either white or bourgeois,
00:06:32.680and for her devoted appreciation of her own culture, which is an inspiration to us all.
00:06:38.940I think we are better off if we think of Zora Neale Hurston as an artist, period, rather than
00:06:44.060as the artist politician most Black writers have been required to be. This frees us up to appreciate
00:06:49.580the complexity and richness of her work. We live in a society as Blacks, women, and artists whose
00:06:56.200contests we do not design, and with whose insistence on ranking us we are permanently at war. To know
00:07:03.040that second place in such a society has often required more work and innate genius than first,
00:07:09.180a longer, grimmer struggle over greater odds than first, and to be able to fling your scarf
00:07:15.540about dramatically while you demonstrate that you know, is to trust your own self-evaluation
00:07:21.460in the face of the great white Western commercial of white and male supremacy, which is virtually
00:07:28.960everything we see outside and often inside our own homes. That Hurston held her own literally
00:07:35.660against the flood of whiteness and maleness that diluted so much other black art of the period in0.60
00:07:41.300which she worked is a testimony to her genius and her faith. As black women and as artists,
00:07:47.600we are prepared, I think, to keep that faith. There are other choices, but they are despicable.0.80
00:07:54.740Zora Neale Hurston, who went forth into the world with one dress to her name and who was permitted,
00:07:59.800at other times in her life, only a single pair of shoes, rescued and recreated a world which
00:08:06.020she labored to hand us whole, never underestimating the value of her gift, if at times doubting the
00:08:12.520good sense of its recipients. She appreciated us, in any case, as we fashioned ourselves.
00:08:19.620That is something. And of all the people in the world to be, she chose to be herself,
00:08:24.720and more and more herself. That too is something. So this book is dedicated to Zora Neale Hurston.
00:08:33.800And so, like Walker, we dedicate this episode of the Missing Witches podcast to Zora Neale Hurston, and to the curious and the confident.0.99
00:08:44.860You aren't being a proper woman, therefore you must be a witch.0.99
00:20:52.980On the second day, I began to dream strange, exalted dreams.
00:20:56.800on the third night I had dreams that seemed real for weeks. In one, I strode across the heavens
00:21:03.300with lightning flashing from under my feet and grumbling thunder following in my wake.
00:21:08.780In this particular ceremony, my finger was cut and I became blood brother to the rattlesnake.
00:21:14.380We were to aid each other forever. I was to walk with the storm and hold my power and get my
00:21:21.820answers to life and things in storms. The symbol of lightning was painted on my back.
00:21:29.260This was to be mine forever. In another ceremony, I had to sit at the crossroads at midnight in
00:21:35.940complete darkness and meet the devil and make a compact. That was a long, long hour as I sat
00:21:42.000flat on the ground, there alone, and invited the king of hell. The most terrifying was going to a
00:21:48.120lonely glade in the swamp to get the black cat bone. The magic circle was made and all of the
00:21:53.920participants were inside. I was told that anything outside that circle was in deadly peril. The fire
00:21:59.740was built inside, the pot prepared, and the black cat was thrown in with the proper ceremony and
00:22:05.160boiled until his bones fell apart. Strange and terrible monsters seemed to thunder up to that
00:22:11.820ring while this was going on. It took months for me to doubt it afterwards.
00:22:18.120She didn't hoard what she collected either. Sharing what she had learned was as important
00:22:24.060as the learning itself. She made her way from Louisiana to the Bahamas, and on her return to
00:22:29.860New York in 1932, introduced Bahamian songs and dances to a New York audience. By 1934,
00:22:36.360she was establishing a drama school, quote, based on pure Negro expression. Traveling, collecting,
00:22:43.220writing, publishing, traveling, collecting, writing, publishing, these four words characterized
00:22:48.120most of Zora's life throughout the 30s and 40s. California, Harlem, Honduras, Florida, Jamaica,
00:22:55.880fellowships, patrons, and research grants enabling her ever-growing search for the answer to an
00:23:00.620impossible mystery. She wrote, belief in magic is older than writing, so nobody knows how it started.
00:23:08.580but she kept looking and listening driven by curiosity and everywhere she found music and
00:23:15.780magic everywhere she found music and magic until 1948 there was a scandal she was falsely accused
00:23:27.220of a terrible thing and i say falsely because 100 of the evidence spoke to her innocence
00:23:32.640and her accuser admitted that he was lying but despite her clear innocence a mix of personal
00:23:38.380vendetta and salacious profit-driven tabloid reporting ensured that the story had already
00:23:44.360spread. She felt suicidal, betrayed by her community, and eventually left Harlem for good.
00:23:50.940Every strong woman is a witch, and all are hunted. Hurston returned to Florida and spent the 1950s
00:23:58.280working as a writer, librarian, and substitute teacher. In 1959, she had a stroke. The story
00:24:07.040goes that in 1960, Hurston died, when her heart failed, in a county welfare home. Her body buried
00:24:16.080in an unmarked grave and personal effects set to be burned. The fire had been lit. But as the
00:24:24.200faiths would have it, a friend, Patrick Duval, was passing by the place where she had lived,
00:24:28.860and he stopped and put out the fire, rescuing her papers from being burned as if at the stake.
00:24:37.040Let's return to Alice Walker here for a minute because she is the one who found and marked
00:24:41.540Hurston's grave in 1973. Walker and Hurston are so linked that we almost can't speak about one
00:24:48.320without bringing up the other. To put it our way, Hurston went looking for the witches she'd been
00:24:54.200missing, and Walker did the same. She discovered Hurston while doing research on voodoo in the
00:24:59.140American South for a short story. Thaddeus Davis recounts Walker's telling of this discovery in his
00:25:04.660essay, The Polarities of Space. Walker initially encountered Zora Neale Hurston not as a novelist
00:25:11.240of the Harlem Renaissance, but rather as a folklorist and researcher. She remembered that
00:25:15.900discovery resulting from her need to include accurate material on voodoo practices among
00:25:21.720rural southern blacks of the 30s. But she found no one she could trust. A number of white racist
00:25:28.160anthropologists and folklorists of the period had, not surprisingly, disappointed and insulted me.0.54
00:25:34.200They thought blacks inferior, peculiar, and comic, and for me, this undermined, no, destroyed the relevance of their books.
00:25:42.840Fortunately, she discovered Zora Neale Hurston's Mules and Men, and with that collection documenting Hurston's recording of the culture and folklore of her all-black Florida town, Eatonville,
00:25:53.480she also discovered an anthropologist whose material was authentic, and that authenticity of her material was verified by her familiarity with its context.
00:26:03.360Walker's usage of context signals her understanding of how Hurston dealt with ideas and with what and how black people thought.
00:26:10.920More importantly, since Walker sought an authoritative rejoinder to the negative and inaccurate views promulgated by white anthropologists and folklorists,
00:26:20.240Hurston's documentation and contextualization of black Southern life had a powerful effect.
00:26:25.640Walker says I was soothed by her reassurance that she was exposing not simply an adequate
00:26:31.180culture but a superior one. That black people can be on occasion peculiar and comic was knowledge0.99
00:26:38.040she enjoyed. That they could be racially and culturally inferior to whites never seems to0.97
00:26:44.140have crossed her mind. Alice Walker is credited with breaking Hurston into a more mainstream
00:26:50.580knowledge when Ms. Magazine published her essay describing her search, aptly titled
00:26:55.360Looking for Zora. If you're at all interested, you should really read this piece. It's available
00:27:01.600online and we've linked to it in our show notes for this episode. And so Walker and Hurston became
00:27:08.240woven together with Hurston serving as a posthumous mentor for Walker. In her essay, June Jordan and
00:27:15.640Alice Walker's Quest for Redemptive Art and Politics, Cheryl Wall writes about this Hurston-Walker
00:27:21.880dynamic. If you're not familiar with the poet June Jordan, just know that she said this,
00:27:27.920to tell the truth is to become beautiful, to begin to love yourself, value yourself,
00:27:35.180and that's political in its most profound way. In her essay, Cheryl Wall writes, Hurston,
00:27:43.800the first Black anthropologist to conduct fieldwork on voodoo, or as she preferred,
00:27:48.720hoodoo, provided the information that Walker needed to complete her story. More importantly,
00:27:54.460she became the model who affirmed Walker's choice of vocation. Hurston, who was fond of the Black
00:27:59.940English word bodacious, that's bold plus audacious, offers Walker a literary legacy as well as a model
00:28:08.160for living a free life that is marked by unwavering dedication to one's work.