00:00:25.460risa do you want to start by telling our coven about the exciting thing we did this week
00:00:32.560oh sure so um we got to go and talk about our project at mcgill university in the sociology
00:00:43.480department in a class on deviance which felt great and appropriate social deviance that we are
00:00:50.880um yeah it was rad the teacher is an incredible woman who i met out here in the woods and um
00:01:00.360she invited us she turns out really likes what we do and invited us to come talk to her students
00:01:06.780during their segment on witches the entire class is kind of about the framing of deviants like and
00:01:13.800the uses of how some people and activities are framed as deviants and who benefits from when
00:01:20.960people are othered in that way uh amy and i did a bunch to prepare and then just looked
00:01:26.900excitedly for an hour um and it was so yes i i would say i ignored about 75 percent of my notes
00:01:36.040Yeah. Yeah, that was rad. It was fun to put together. I made like a 91 page presentation just of images from the different artists and thinkers and people that we featured on the podcast before. So that was incredible. We had a dinner with incredible witch friends. We treated ourselves and stayed in a place with a hot pool.
00:02:01.640yeah it was exhausting and overwhelming um to have so much social interaction
00:02:10.220and so much thinking and talking um but it felt really good to leave our our snowy holes
00:02:18.780and go and walk in the streets and see people yes it was like a combination of like luxury and um
00:02:28.000humping around the city for three days with a heavy bag on my shoulders. So I am completely
00:02:36.480out of spoons. I am spoonless today. And so I want to talk about it. And I want to talk about
00:02:45.260it with all of you who are in a similar situation. If you don't know what I mean when I say out of
00:02:50.800spoons, it's a term that was invented by, oh, now I'm forgetting her name, Christine something.
00:02:56.760And I always wondered, like, why spoons? It's a metaphor for energy, basically, where you have a certain amount of spoons, again, a certain amount of energy, and you probably, if you have a chronic illness, chronic pain, anything like that,
00:03:16.180it's going to take you more spoons to complete a task than it might for, you know, a quote-unquote
00:03:23.000normal, able-bodied, well person. And I did read that she came up with it while she was like having
00:03:32.960a dinner with her friends. So it might have just been like, what's on the table that I can use as
00:03:37.540a metaphor okay here's a spoon so now we're spoonies and so i'm exhausted and sometimes i
00:03:46.020want to cry about it and sometimes i will you know moan and groan about who i might have been
00:03:52.860if i didn't have this chronic illness um but sometimes i just want to laugh about it and so
00:03:59.040that that's what i brought for the coven today there is a song by evie oddly and willow pill
00:04:06.300There are two drag artists who both actually won Drag Race
00:04:33.600It's like, yeah, I'm sick, I'm not well
00:04:35.700Or it's like, that's sick, that's dope, that's fire, that's awesome, that's rad, that's cool. So they've sort of inverted and combined these things to make this song that I think is for all of us in the chronic illness community. And I hope that whether you have chronic illness or not, that you'll take a listen to this song and sort of hear that perspective or relate to that perspective.
00:18:22.520But like that one of them was like rim jobbing a demon, you know, and someone else put up their hand and they're like, OK, that, you know, they're they're they're reading a book.
00:18:32.500They're doing this. But the one thing that the class didn't grab onto that the prof pointed out was that they were gathering, that they were gathering in community.
00:18:43.740and this is such a huge thing for witches and non-witches you know one of our coven mates
00:18:50.080specifically reached out to mention that our our message last week of like you're not alone in this
00:18:56.140whatever it is you're not alone in it was super heartening for her to be reminded of you know not
00:19:04.140to hear for the first time but just to be constantly reminded that you know if you are0.94
00:19:09.200being exploited if you are chronically ill if you are fucking raging at late stage capitalism if you0.95
00:19:16.900are sad and scared that the global events happening all around us literally all around us1.00
00:19:24.000embryos are babies now according to tennessee like the fuck um that you are not alone you're0.99
00:19:31.100not alone in your exhaustion you're not alone in your anger um but you're also like not alone0.99
00:19:37.020in your joy that you feel when you are part of a community. And it was just, it was so cool to see
00:19:46.460this professor point out that what these witches that were doing that was really the scariest
00:19:51.940thing for the status quo was to gather together. You know, the scariest, witchiest thing that we
00:19:59.300can do to combat the status quo is to be together and to talk to each other and to sympathize with
00:20:05.820each other and just to gather in whatever form that that might take and maybe dance with children
00:20:12.480or dance on our own or dance in any way or rest and sleep all of these things are all all a part
00:20:22.100of that um community of recognizing that we are not alone0.99
00:20:28.800um and i guess i want to repeat um i'm a sick bitch0.98