Missing Witches - April 22, 2024


MW Rx. 47 - Look Him Straight In The Eye

We Are Deer Kin We Are Undammed River Kin

Episode Stats


Length

30 minutes

Words per minute

150.04

Word count

4,604

Sentence count

53

Harmful content

Toxicity

24

sentences flagged

Hate speech

11

sentences flagged


Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 The spirit is rising, she's rising, she's rising. The spirit is rising, it's rising, it's rising. The spirit is rising, they're rising, they're rising.
00:00:15.700 Hi, Risa. Hi, Kevin. Hi, Amy. Hi, Kevin. How's everybody surviving? Are you?
00:00:24.920 Well, I'll tell you how I'm surviving. And that is with the support of our dear, dear Coven. I just want to kind of start by thanking everyone who heard me wailing and whinging and praying on the RX and reached out to me.
00:00:43.140 It was really, really uplifting to just get these, like, notes of advice or just well wishes or commiseration, all that stuff.
00:00:54.060 And it really allowed me to do the spell that we're always talking about, Risa, of tell the truth, watch the world change, you know?
00:01:03.720 So I was just a super honest, like, oftentimes I go into these situations with a little bit of a mask of, like,
00:01:10.640 i'm fine but i could use a little help with this or that or whatever and this time i was like
00:01:15.880 i'm miserable i need help i'm not masking any of this i actually like cried a little bit
00:01:23.500 when i was talking to the intake nurse before i even talked to the doctor so
00:01:28.580 thank you coven for encouraging me to take my own advice as well as all of y'all's advice to 0.55
00:01:35.760 tell the truth and watch what a powerful powerful fucking spell that is so thanks everybody i'm so
00:01:43.540 happy for you amy you really are that person who is like so tough and wise and quick that it is 0.90
00:01:50.280 often very hard to tell when you are struggling as like one of your dear friends like i i miss it
00:01:57.420 unless you crack enough to tell me yeah there's definitely like i i was raised under the banner
00:02:05.520 of like what will the neighbors think and so i'm very good at like when the when the camera light
00:02:10.220 turns on i'm there you know i can i can pull it together and then as soon as the camera's off then
00:02:16.320 i'm like falling into my heap again but i have found that it is not super useful to do that as
00:02:24.220 i have like desperately trying to unlearn all of the messages that i got from from people who were
00:02:32.260 more concerned about what people thought than like how the world really was or like you know
00:02:38.820 the legitimate suffering that was going on as long as you had the facade of everything's fine
00:02:46.440 then like somehow everything's fine but it's not it's really not and so again um if you are a tough
00:02:53.940 cookie uh sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles so just keep that in mind you can be a
00:02:59.860 crumbling cookie because that's the way the cookie crumbles tough cookies it's just how it is yeah
00:03:07.360 i'm thinking a lot about um rivers i i'm writing a piece about undammed rivers for next week
00:03:14.660 and i i've had such beautiful help also from the coven but i also am very much feeling like this
00:03:21.780 energy in my life of like if we if we damn everything up and keep everything on the
00:03:29.360 straight and narrow you know catastrophe is coming like giant swings of climate are coming we
00:03:37.360 you know and even in our hearts and souls like if i keep everything damned up and on the straight
00:03:41.700 and narrow i'm gonna bust right through those eventually and it's gonna be chaos you know
00:03:48.300 yeah like ecologically globally but also like we were talking about in that personal way of
00:03:53.940 of you know building these dams so the water doesn't move but healthier water moves it's just
00:04:00.980 gotta it's gotta override the banks sometimes you know you just can't keep that from happening and
00:04:07.040 in fact there's so much richness that happens in those those in between places those liminal places
00:04:13.740 of spill and overlap and eddies and drainage paths you know like i i feel very much like i'm in a
00:04:21.300 in between place this week my kiddo was sick again it was like gastro and a bad virus thing
00:04:34.320 which means like she'll cough and cough and cough and cough until she pukes because the gastro like
00:04:41.880 everything is just as overwhelmed sorry if that's i should have had a trigger for puking but um
00:04:47.460 It's just, you know, like it's the undammed.
00:04:51.120 She was fully and it's night that's so much worse.
00:04:55.160 Right.
00:04:55.380 So you think that she's asleep and then the coughing starts.
00:04:58.540 And then and I spent a couple of nights alone, including a night we were supposed to have an event with the coven where I realized as I was alone cleaning up puke all over all the bedding that the event was supposed to have started 10 minutes before.
00:05:13.360 And I was just like, I, I mean, I, and I partially went in a shame spiral about it, but partially was just like, well, this group of people at least knows a lot about me and understands, I think.
00:05:27.880 I mean, part of telling the truth is like, I can't, I can't right now.
00:05:31.940 And a lot of us like are like, it's impossible for us to say or admit that we can't do something, but that's part of that undamming of the truth, right?
00:05:40.480 Yeah. And honestly, like, as much as I can try to clean it up and manage it all well, I'm gonna miss stuff. And there's just gonna be puke everywhere. And now I'm on like, this is 10 days of these nights like this.
00:06:00.820 So I just don't really know who I am.
00:06:04.820 Like I'm in sort of a furry, fuzzy brain space.
00:06:08.420 I also have super allergies this time of year.
00:06:11.040 So like I'm very either itchy or medicated at all times.
00:06:16.040 And I'm just sort of floating.
00:06:18.300 But I have to say my lake is also melting.
00:06:21.580 And this is the time of year where you forget what it's like to see water reflect, like light reflecting on the water.
00:06:29.660 you forget what it's like to come upstairs and see like color and movement and stuff outside
00:06:36.040 the windows our windows are almost entirely filled by the lake which is beautiful but in the winter is
00:06:41.500 it's just ice it's just white so everything in me is in and and when it floods I mean when it
00:06:49.440 thaws it floods so the water is all up over the banks and that is just how I feel that's just
00:06:56.160 that's just who I am today so one of my prescriptions I was laughing with my therapist
00:07:01.760 yesterday she was like asking how I was feeling and I was sort of telling her all this stuff but
00:07:07.340 I was also telling her you know I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday and she said you know
00:07:13.680 when the the sun goes and it's gray I just completely fall apart like I'm just so completely
00:07:21.440 affected by the weather that I collapse inward when the sun is gone and I had this really like
00:07:29.200 surprise shock feeling like I have felt like that so much of my life and I just don't feel like that
00:07:36.120 right now like even though even though it's gray and I'm exhausted and there's puke and it's the
00:07:42.900 overwhelm like I just kind of feel okay I really do I'm starting to feel more more anchored okay 0.99
00:07:50.060 so then my therapist is like what what's working i was like it's just this fucking stupid 0.99
00:07:54.420 meditation app it's like the only thing i'm doing differently you really have become like an 0.98
00:08:00.760 evangelist for this meditation app i love it so i'm i'm here for the apps i'm here for whatever
00:08:07.440 helps please but it's this one guy in particular i did a bit of a goog to try to make sure he's not
00:08:14.920 some sketchy thief but he seems okay please let me know you know if as of april 17th 2024 this is
00:08:26.240 a bad dude or a good dude but uh andrew johnson this like relaxing scottish voice and there's
00:08:34.420 meditation in particular he has like five videos on the youtube channel they're probably all
00:08:38.680 fine but there's one in particular where it's about walking down a staircase and you step off
00:08:45.440 at the end into your place of safety and comfort and relaxation and I did it with May today I got
00:08:54.720 I got like really sort of panicky feeling I took too long to feed myself you know so I got really
00:09:01.400 like stretched thin feeling and been thinking a lot about how to model dealing with anxiety you
00:09:09.720 know so that she can really see me do it instead of me trying to teach her how to do it because
00:09:15.800 they just don't learn like that um and so it was nice I was like I'm feeling like this like I'm
00:09:22.820 feeling kind of like fluttery and so we ate but I'm still feeling like kind of anxious we're doing
00:09:28.460 a lot and running around so I'm going to meditate for 10 minutes I'm going to breathe deeply and
00:09:33.620 we're going to have quiet time and so I put on this guided meditation by this Scottish dude about
00:09:39.980 stepping off into our creative place and she just like curled up at my feet and pretend she was
00:09:44.660 drawing I thought and then I saw it at the end and she was right she was just like scribble writing
00:09:49.100 she was writing a book about her and I on an adventure and she just like got to be at my feet
00:09:55.480 well I found my calm again and so I prescribe that whether it's this Andrew Johnson dude
00:10:01.220 there's another meditation by this gentleman Scottish wizard where so he he's a clinical
00:10:10.320 hypnotherapist so it's sometimes when he's taking you into a meditation he's also going to explain
00:10:16.680 that he's going to count down and bring you in um but there's one that he does in addition to ones
00:10:23.020 that are about like meeting your guides or whatever that are really lovely there's one he
00:10:27.580 does that is he sort of explains some of the science around why gratitude meditation works
00:10:35.680 and he explains a piece that's often missing in gratitude meditation where he's like yeah it's
00:10:42.020 helpful to keep a journal of things that you're thankful for it's helpful to like list that stuff
00:10:47.760 But actually, the science shows that it's when we remember the feeling of someone showing us gratitude that we have these big biomarkers that are actually really helpful for how we deal with anxiety, how we process sugars, whatever, whatever.
00:11:08.200 um so it's not just i'm thankful for this like it's remembering a time when you did something
00:11:17.740 for somebody and they expressed wholehearted gratitude and you remember what it felt like
00:11:24.280 in your body for someone to be grateful to you and that that tweak is like i hadn't heard that
00:11:32.800 before and so then and he's like after you do this meditation like journal even if it's a time
00:11:38.460 if you can't remember a time that is like that find it in narrative find it in fiction like find
00:11:44.800 it build it build it you can still build it the brain can accept a fictionalized version versus
00:11:50.960 a remembered version and and and give it to you in your body but if you can try then remember and
00:11:57.160 like nurture the memory of someone really thanking you and like what you gave and what you felt in
00:12:04.200 that moment and that is a very different for me body feeling than then the like dutifulness of
00:12:12.860 I'm thankful for the sun and the rain and the heat and the whatever that feels to me again like I'm
00:12:19.060 in this like supplicant position a little bit and it feels tied to early childhood church experiences
00:12:26.400 which for me were not traumatic but were not deeply magical either and so to remember it's
00:12:34.260 also has something to do with remembering my own value and like I remember times when I
00:12:39.420 told my kid that I wasn't just lucky to have a kid I was lucky to have her because she's the 0.78
00:12:48.020 greatest fucking kid and she leapt into my arms tears in her eyes like so happy and so to embody 0.96
00:12:55.080 that memory it also gives me this like I don't know it gives me back something and I want you 0.97
00:13:03.040 all to have that yeah there's something there too about like remembering to express gratitude when
00:13:10.900 people help you and are kind to you there are so many of us and I'm saying us to include
00:13:18.540 myself and Risa who have struggled because at some point in our lives we just felt
00:13:25.220 un or underappreciated and it makes you want to like give up like I did all this and whoever it
00:13:33.240 was didn't even acknowledge it so for this science to give us this idea that like even more so than
00:13:42.300 And being grateful to remember when someone else was grateful to you, to me, is like an impetus to just be so thankful, to be verbally expressive of gratitude when someone shows up for me.
00:13:58.560 I love that.
00:13:59.540 And we, of course, love when science backs up our heart stories.
00:14:04.060 We are here for all of the unfolding of the sciences.
00:14:08.180 We're here for all the people engaging with the unknown.
00:14:10.940 Thank you.
00:14:11.540 thank you sciences we're leaping into your arms and gratitude what i think about it is that
00:14:17.360 there's a reason and it's not it's not him and it's not apps uh and it's not
00:14:26.480 really particular to meditation maybe even because i know different forms of meditation are
00:14:32.400 going to work for different people trying to emphasize the quiet and focus of mindfulness
00:14:38.360 can be really harmful if your brain doesn't do that comfortably but something about like
00:14:45.880 returning to a dream brain a lunar mind returning to like having something that
00:14:55.160 brings me back in and it feels like I'm coming back into connection I think of it in connection
00:15:01.780 with my community and the energy that flows through me you might think of it as source or
00:15:06.200 spirit or a deity self um doing it regularly whatever it is is making it more accessible
00:15:16.980 it's like bringing that quiet to the surface we were joking a little while ago that
00:15:21.220 amy said she was at meniscus level i can't remember if we said that on the podcast or
00:15:27.180 just to each other but that feeling of like the water having its tight curved surface it's so
00:15:33.160 full in the cup, but it's not breaking over yet. But if you add one more drop, everything will
00:15:38.780 explode. The whole cup will pour out. I'm not feeling that. I was feeling that and I'm not.
00:15:46.060 And even though I feel all of the pressure of the world and people breaking through boundaries and
00:15:53.120 breaking through walls and the anger and exhaustion of it all, I feel like finding a way to be in
00:16:01.520 touch with whatever that quiet is is helping and so my second rec is willie nelson singing
00:16:08.660 a pearl jam song with his son called just breathe it's so lovely
00:16:13.460 stay with me
00:16:15.880 let's just breathe
00:16:21.280 it's just lovely they have these like matching voices they're so sweet and little
00:16:31.360 23 year old luke nelson i think is his name has exactly his dad's voice lucas nelson younger
00:16:38.980 and it's just there's just a piece in it thinking about people leaving and dying and how we only
00:16:48.220 have this short time together and you don't want to hurt each other and then it's just stay with
00:16:53.400 me just breathe and it did if i didn't say it to you i should i'm sorry you know that i love you
00:17:00.760 that i need you just breathe i think that's great advice first of all for um if you have children
00:17:11.260 to like include them in the unmasking of reality instead of you know trying to teach them like
00:17:19.340 embody that and show them i think that's going to be a really good lesson for me like an embodied
00:17:26.160 lesson as opposed to like a school book lesson and i didn't know about this pearl jam cover
00:17:32.860 willie nelson with his son let's give that advice to ourselves and to our children
00:17:39.220 and all the people in our lives to just breathe
00:17:43.100 in fact let's take a deep breath together right now kevin i'm doing it you'll be able to hear me
00:17:50.740 ready my prescription is sort of equally accessible um we had a couple new coven mates join
00:18:06.580 and one of the questions that came up is like i wouldn't call myself a witch i don't know how to
00:18:15.660 get started i think you know is is a question that comes up a lot like how do i start and
00:18:23.220 you know the reason that we one of the reasons that we wrote new moon magic is because when we
00:18:30.020 looked at you know if you google how to be a witch like you often get stuff that amounts to like
00:18:35.360 here's what you need to buy to be a witch or here are you know the things that you need to have on
00:18:41.180 your altar and buy and get and consume and acquire and all that so i like to go back to the moon
00:18:50.660 because first of all for now it's free to look at who knows what the tech billionaires will do
00:19:03.140 find a way to you know make a subscription service of the moon moon may you prevent that
00:19:10.780 from ever happening in all of your glory um but what happens when i look at the moon is like
00:19:18.580 i think to myself that every creature that has lived on this earth that had the power of sight
00:19:26.460 um has marveled at this thing has wondered about it it's the same moon that you know cleopatra
00:19:34.600 looked at or William Shakespeare or you know if you can sort of like tie yourself to all of human
00:19:43.380 history by just looking up to the sky that's kind of a big deal for me and it kind of blows my mind
00:19:50.700 that we have access to all of human history in this light rock in the sky if we perceive it that
00:19:57.800 way and then my spouse called me just yesterday he was he was working and he called me and he was
00:20:09.000 like you know i never really got this and i know you're a big fan and i never got it but i was
00:20:15.740 listening to it today and i get it now i i get it now and this is an album called copper blue
00:20:23.520 by a band called sugar now you may have heard of bob mold from his like breakout band which was
00:20:32.980 husker do you know they were that sort of like i don't like the word grunge um so we'll say post
00:20:40.320 punk you know that kind of american post punk scene that i seem to be returning to a lot lately
00:20:46.320 post-punk 90s the 90s are hot right now so you know you can come to me for someone who was
00:20:53.600 actually there but Copper Blue um came out after Bob Mould came out so Bob Mould is sort of like
00:21:04.500 this queer icon of of the punk scene who was I mean it was sort of categorized as like an open
00:21:10.580 secret if you knew bob mold then you probably knew that he was queer but he wasn't like you
00:21:19.120 know doing interviews about it but he did come out in the spin magazine article and just decided to 0.65
00:21:27.160 you know do that spell that we were talking about of telling the truth and after that and i don't
00:21:34.800 know what the relationship is between him coming out and him making this record but it really is
00:21:41.300 so much about love and loss and change but there's this one song called man on the moon
00:21:50.120 and he sings it's the man on the moon saying good night to you and oh how it shines
00:22:12.940 he's a good friend of mine
00:22:15.260 he's a good friend of yours
00:22:17.400 even many miles away
00:22:20.740 in a night of despair
00:22:22.860 only one light is there
00:22:25.760 it's the man on the moon
00:22:27.700 saying goodnight to you
00:22:29.840 and then
00:22:31.760 if you look to the sky
00:22:33.980 look him straight in the eye
00:22:35.480 and as strange as it seems
00:22:37.820 if you wish all your dreams
00:22:40.240 will come true after all
00:22:42.520 so i don't know i don't think bob mold is a witch but definitely there's there's something
00:22:50.340 a major thread that ties me looking at the moon and bob mold looking at the moon and thinking
00:22:56.440 like maybe i can put my dreams into you maybe you can be that light in the in the night of despair
00:23:04.640 that one bright light in the sky even in a night of despair um so my prescription is to look at 0.99
00:23:11.720 the fucking moon yo like if you are a lifelong witch if you are someone who's like maybe i'm 0.99
00:23:19.860 witchy i always recommend starting at the moon oh how it shines and i'll tell you the moon can be a 1.00
00:23:27.680 good friend of yours connect you to all of human history connect you to your wishes and maybe your
00:23:33.760 dreams will come true if you can just put them into the moon and maybe that sounds silly but like 0.96
00:23:39.680 fuck it so much of what has built my life sounded silly to other people and I'm always amazed at how 0.98
00:23:48.560 people will tell me I'm crazy until the crazy thing I did works out and then they tell me I'm 0.99
00:23:54.880 brave or clever or whatever and so I just want to hey sorry I was muted when I yelled hey when you 0.97
00:24:01.700 said that I had to say it again fuck yes that's so true in so much of life they tell you that 0.98
00:24:08.720 you're crazy or they look at you weird when you do these wild things these brave incongruous 0.98
00:24:15.560 things and then it works and then everyone's ready to celebrate yeah sorry i just need to 0.90
00:24:21.540 amplify underline no please and then maybe you know your spouse calls you up 30 years after
00:24:27.980 the record comes out and it's like i get it now so just try it try the moon try breathing like
00:24:36.560 can we be more accessible than this take a deep breath look at the moon this is open to you
00:24:43.000 this is breathing and looking at the moon are not a closed practice you don't need to worry about
00:24:50.120 appropriation it's these are things that are with us at all times and even in the new moon when we
00:24:58.860 can't see the moon we know that the man in the moon is there even mile many miles away in a night
00:25:04.640 of despair the moon can say good night to you okay so i have to add something to the to the
00:25:12.060 prescription then because so this is like a tangle of an of a thought and uh we cut this if it gets
00:25:18.760 too tangly but um thinking about how like looking at the moon breathing opening space for something
00:25:31.500 right like meditating or whatever form that takes for you going on a walk hugging a tree I got to
00:25:37.840 climb a tree this week um I know that was so wonderful I I climbed a giant white pine and it
00:25:45.400 was wonderful um believing that those things open a space for possibility in which we can imagine
00:25:53.220 something better for our lives and then and then and then imagining it right like and then
00:25:58.300 and then dreaming and envisioning hopeful possibilities it kind of walks you towards
00:26:07.780 this conversation about law of attraction stuff which you know all kinds of weird shitty science
00:26:13.780 and racism and and ugly stuff tangled up in there um and also like mark and i had this
00:26:21.160 funny conversation where he came into my office and he brought up someone we know and and the way
00:26:29.080 that like they have constantly been someone who believes the worst will happen and for whom the
00:26:34.340 worst happens and we sort of had this like this conversation where it was like I don't believe
00:26:41.080 that it makes it that way but it sure seems like it you know like I don't believe that that is the
00:26:48.300 only factor and of course you are not making the circumstances under which you live social
00:26:54.960 circumstances um ingrained hierarchies ingrained racism ingrained inequality like those things are 0.99
00:27:02.020 literal weights upon the body um denying those things with an over emphasis on like a fucking 0.99
00:27:08.400 vision board is classist and and gross so all of that said and yet also right like we are witches 0.98
00:27:15.380 we're in the liminal space we're trying to move between boundaries and see what is in there
00:27:20.520 there is a way in which our repeated nightmares our repeated fears we call them closer and closer
00:27:31.280 to us and so that's i've i've i've been listening to so much julian baker since um our coven mate
00:27:39.540 Aaron brought Boy Genius to our circle last week and brought Lucy Dacus, whose work I was really listening to this week, too.
00:27:49.580 And I finally went down like I know I'm years late or whatever, months late, but I finally went down into the into the solo work of those artists and spent a lot of time with Jillian Baker this week.
00:28:01.040 And my favorite song on the new album, I think it's called Little Oblivions.
00:28:04.420 the album is called repeat in particular this line where they say all my greatest fears turn
00:28:13.700 out to be the gift of prophecy all my nightmares coming true come do my outline in the street
00:28:20.540 and then it repeats, repeats, repeats, repeats.
00:28:31.460 There is something there about leaning into the nightmare
00:28:38.420 versus leaning into the possible, you know?
00:28:41.720 And it doesn't mean that we skip the fear.
00:28:44.240 You have to feel it, feel where it is in the body,
00:28:46.600 feel what systems it's tied to and how we can resist those and how we can ask for help
00:28:52.560 but also imagine the dream world you know I had this last night with May she was terrified to go
00:29:00.020 to sleep after nights of waking up coughing and puking she was really scared when she closed her
00:29:05.620 eyes she saw nightmares and I surrounded her with all of her favorite stuffed animals
00:29:13.240 and told her that they you know I was talking in their voices saying we love you we can't wait to
00:29:18.640 see you in dreamland that's where we are we'll meet you in your dreams and she said that makes
00:29:24.300 me so emotional I'm so happy but it's so emotional bless her heart it's like that
00:29:31.160 moment of choosing you know do we believe in the nightmare do we leave in the possibility of the
00:29:36.180 dream just breathe i guess yeah i believe in the possibility of a dream i believe that change is
00:29:47.900 possible i believe that breathing and looking at the moon can help and if you think that that's
00:29:53.640 silly then don't believe me just watch i mean that goes in the rx too right 0.99
00:30:03.520 And bless the fucking bee 1.00
00:30:08.280 Oh bless the fucking bee 1.00
00:30:33.520 If you want to support the Missing Witches project, join the coven. 1.00
00:30:38.500 Find out how at missingwitches.com.