00:00:27.680Hello to the Missing Witches Coven. Let's raise our voices in song together to welcome today's0.65
00:00:37.780guest, Michaela Harrison, also known in some circles in our circle as the Whale Whisperer.
00:00:46.100Thank you so much for sitting down with us today to talk about your projects, plural.
00:00:53.980I can't wait to talk about singing and I'm so excited to hear your particular bend on what
00:01:02.560singing means to us. So again, welcome Michaela Harrison. Michaela, can you tell our listeners a
00:01:09.620little bit about who you are? Yes, thank you so much for having me, Amy. It's a blessing to be
00:01:17.700here I am a manifestation of divine source embodied as a black woman on the
00:01:34.080prismatic spectrum that's my substitution for the word queer which I
00:01:39.700don't identify with. I'm prismatic. I am right now enjoying the settling into middle age
00:01:53.260and the reflections and the wisdom and clarity of perspective that are coming
00:02:02.540with that transition. I am a singer. I am a writer. I am a layer on of hands, a healer,
00:02:15.800a lover, a dreamer, a Pisces, and most definitely a witch.
00:02:25.460That was possibly one of my favorite introductions, self-introductions.
00:02:30.620I've heard there's I mean I have my list of questions that I want to ask you but now I have
00:02:37.040a whole separate list um so like I guess before we get off of that tell me about queer versus
00:02:44.660prismatic can you expand on that idea yeah I just don't like the word queer I I I would never use
00:02:57.520that word to describe myself because it's not a word that's ever been a part of my vocabulary.
00:03:06.660And honestly, when I talked about this before, but when I began to hear it, you know, be used
00:03:15.000as sort of a catch all phrase for LGBTQIA, et cetera, folks, I was like, yeah, no, I don't,
00:03:27.520So I wouldn't ever use that word. I mean, it's a word that feels very specific to not only like a white sort of vocabulary, but even like more like British in my mind is something that feels very detached from me just as a vocabulary choice, you know.
00:03:54.520and I understand and identify with the idea of it. And I like the idea of a word that encompasses
00:04:04.620all the letters, you know, um, and for me, it's a prism, it's a spectrum, right? It's,
00:04:13.620it's the rainbow. Um, I'm also a big Judy Garland fan quiet as it's kept these days.
00:04:21.020and I have a whole nother rabbit hole that we probably should not go down right now.
00:04:28.900Oh no, please. To rainbows and how that really kicked in when I was 10 years old and I was
00:04:38.640watching the Wizard of Oz and I just connected with Judy Garland's spirit and she was singing
00:04:45.160over the rainbow and something happened. Like her spirit came and touched me. And then I like,
00:04:55.200I went in, you know, and she's always been present with me since then, um, as a singer
00:05:02.240and particularly around connecting with this, uh, sense of, of journeying and seeking home
00:05:13.580and finding home wherever you find yourself and also this this connection with the rainbow and
00:05:23.340that spectrum and that appearance you know of of the scope of possibilities of realities of
00:05:36.140of manifestations of, of colors and, and possibilities. So the prism has resonance
00:05:45.960for me on many different levels. And I was like, okay, well, if we're talking about the whole range
00:05:51.460of expressions that are not, you know, white, cis, heteropatriarchy, then let's just call it
00:05:57.580what it is, which is a prism. So I'm prismatic. I, I'm listeners, we have our cameras turned
00:06:03.580off right now so Michaela can't see me just sitting here bouncing with a crazy smile on my
00:06:08.980face I just want to articulate to you Michaela that I am sitting here bouncing with a crazy
00:06:15.100smile on my face I love the notion of a prism too because how we view it depends on how it's
00:06:22.980refracting the light it changes yes yes and of course I mean Wizard of Oz is like for for a lot0.97
00:06:32.180of us was this like first entryway into the possibility of going from a world that's black
00:06:38.200and white into a world that's full of colors maybe i'll be prismatic listeners let's think about
00:06:47.300so i i'm gonna go to uh your website there's something here i i read this little bit
00:06:57.220I sent it to Marisa my podcasting partner and I was like doesn't this sound like something we
00:07:03.560would have written like it just it resonated so much with me and with us and to you know our
00:07:11.320coven so I'm going to read it now and then maybe we can again cut it up and talk about it word by
00:07:17.320word. Okay. Let me take a sip of water. We are one. That is the central message pulsing through
00:07:28.700this web that's spinning forth from me and that I'm being woven into. This confluence of sound
00:07:37.160and image through and across waves of various types, marine, sound, brain, that for now
00:07:47.460is called whale whispering. So again, I want to talk about every word of that individually,
00:07:55.760but I guess maybe if you could introduce the whale whispering project to our listeners who
00:08:00.860are unaware. Okay. Well, Whispering is a project that I've been working on for almost four years
00:08:10.960now, since 2018. That is based in Bahia, Brazil, where I spend a lot of time. And the gist of the
00:08:22.200project is that I am listening to singing with composing songs inspired by and with humpback
00:08:32.320whales to tap into the messages that they have for me for us around water our relationship to water
00:08:43.620nature in general and more specifically the memories that they hold in their ancestral
00:08:51.720storage of accompanying ships journeying through the Middle Passage, making the crossing,
00:09:02.920the Middle Passage during enslavement, and having heard the sounds coming from the ships
00:09:11.060and holding that record in their songs, and also the exchange that happened between those Africans
00:09:18.800on the ships who heard the whales. And so tapping into that memory for lineage healing,
00:09:29.440for collective healing, and bringing forth songs that express the vibration of that power
00:09:39.760and that healing and that connection um and then on a on a deeper more personal level
00:09:50.080um tapping into the healing energy of the vibration of whale songs for my personal womb
00:09:59.040healing um which is also related to the lineage healing as there's so much ancestral womb trauma
00:10:07.440in this history of capture and enslavement that people of African descent in the Americas have
00:10:17.100lived for many, many generations. So it's multi-layered. And while it's very specific
00:10:27.520in some ways, it's also very much for everyone and anyone who feels like they can
00:10:35.380um access it and resonate with it you know and as you read my my understanding of the central
00:10:47.440message that the whales want to bring is one of of union one of really um
00:10:57.340um tapping us into the fact that that we're one and it's it's so simple
00:11:06.280yet here we are seven plus billion just human beings so-called human beings you know and
00:11:14.420countless other living beings just on this planet and so we can easily get um away from living the
00:11:26.760awareness of the oneness. And I've been experiencing how the whale songs and the
00:11:33.760vibration and the energy and the presence, the spirit of the whales can help us tap back into
00:11:40.460that. Yes. So many questions. Did you find that this message of oneness was something that
00:11:51.540built up over the four years of your project or was there a day when it was just like
00:11:57.660we are one and the message was very strong at a very particular time or was it more of like a
00:12:04.220slow build to that realization um well you know that knowing sort of always in my consciousness
00:12:14.320somewhere, not necessarily at the very forefront. When I began this project,
00:12:21.080in 2019, I had my first opportunity to use the equipment that has allowed me to
00:12:32.140project my voice underwater to the whales and then listen back. So sort of have a live
00:12:43.480live conversation with the whales underwater, you know, and the recording of that first
00:12:52.460session. So up until then, I had been just singing into the air from the boat and interacting with
00:12:59.300them, you know, without equipment, sometimes listening to their songs from underwater through
00:13:05.780a hydrophone, play through a speaker or headphones onto the boat, but mostly just,
00:13:11.420you know without equipment and so the recording of that first experiment with the equipment
00:13:18.140when I listened back to it I listened to it over and over and there was one particular phrase
00:13:24.620that I kept hearing repeated it's a three note phrase that was those are the notes and that's
00:13:34.720the rhythm and I kept hearing it and I was like what is that that is something that that is like
00:13:46.240a key they're saying something with that you know and I listened and I listened and I listened and
00:13:53.620I left it alone and I came back and I listened some more and then I heard it I heard we are one
00:14:01.600i feel like we are one well i didn't hear the words at that time but i received that message
00:14:10.440that that's what was being communicated you know and so i was like all right and that's when i
00:14:19.040wrote the piece that you read the excerpt from that's on my website and
00:14:26.700And I sort of held that as, you know, as I said, so the central message that they want to lay and operating from that as a foundation.
00:14:37.340And then I was blessed to be able to purchase this equipment last year for the project, thanks to a grant from V-Day, yay V-Day, and V, formerly known as E. Vensler.
00:15:02.420And so I had multiple opportunities on the last whale whispering mission, which was August through October of 2021 to do this recording underwater with the whales to have these conversations.
00:15:24.040And there was one in particular where I was exchanging with a whale that was very clearly articulating the words, we are one.
00:15:40.240like i actually in the moment this whale was directly underneath the boat positioned right
00:15:48.740next to the hydrophone and saying the words we are one to those notes and that rhythm um
00:15:58.540and you know that just changed my whole universe like uh did you weep
00:16:35.820It's not, it's not you, but sometimes our projects sort of just like a gas sort of fill the entire space that we give it.
00:16:45.620Oh, definitely. Yeah, this is, this is my life. I mean, the whales are somehow present with me all the time and with whatever I'm doing, it spills over into everything.
00:16:58.820everything. And as far as the we are one piece, yeah, definitely. I'm in this continuous process
00:17:09.800of seeking and gleaning understanding of how to hold simultaneously, you know, this knowing
00:17:22.280And this attunement to an enjoyment of the oneness, you know, while functioning inside of responding to living as wholly as I can within and contributing as much healing as I'm able to to this context of.
00:17:49.280of, you know, white supremacists, cis hetero and violence that we, that we find ourselves
00:18:00.860situated inside of. So seeking balance, you know, has become very much a focus with this work,
00:18:12.240Like how to occupy all the realities simultaneously and be in that knowing and in the peace of that knowing while being present in the world that's defined by things other than that oneness on the surface anyway.
00:18:38.240Yes, I think this must have been such an emotional navigation for you because, you know, we think about the whales and your work with the whales and the beautiful oneness and song.
00:18:51.240But like you said, your project is also heavily attached to the slave trade that passed through these waters.0.98
00:18:58.900How do you navigate like the most beautiful with the ugliest in your same project?0.61
00:19:06.720And if I may also add to ask, which part of it came first?0.97
00:19:11.120Were you looking to talk about the slave trade from like a marine perspective or were you thinking about Wales and then the sort of Middle Passage connection came to you?
00:19:27.320That's not such an easy question to answer because I was always thinking about both.
00:19:34.880You know, I mean, I, I, I have my master's degrees in Africana Studies. And so in, in that work, even in undergrad, some, you know, definitely a focus on diaspora studies and this connection to Africa and African spiritual traditions in particular, it's been a part of my journey for the past 30 years.
00:20:00.020so ancestral work is always present and always on my mind you know in terms of the whales I
00:20:11.580have felt a connection with the whales animals in general my whole life
00:20:18.380and the whales in particular since I first heard their songs as a teenager
00:20:24.540um and so stored away in my consciousness was was since first hearing them this idea
00:20:33.100that at some point I would do something with with whale song you know and it came together
00:20:39.600as I said in 2018 when I was in Brazil actually 2017 I first went to
00:20:47.720on whale, a whale watching trip and was able to meet whales for the first time, humpback whales.
00:20:58.380And through that personal, direct, physical connection, I began to basically, you know,
00:21:07.540receive the downloads about what the work was to be. And it's been evolving from there really
00:21:13.820ever since. It's been a very organic, not so much thought out intellectual process as one of
00:21:22.000really receiving guidance about what this work is and is supposed to be. And as I said,
00:21:28.640it's continuously evolving. Yeah. And I think based on what I've read about you,
00:21:36.200that like a lot of us, you know, singing was a spiritual birthright, a birthright of joy. I think
00:21:45.580you started singing in the church, like a lot of us do. So how has your spiritual journey of song
00:33:06.300So I'll, I'll answer that in two ways, one from sort of a broader universal perspective. And then
00:33:12.240from my specific perspective as a Black woman, coming from the tradition that I come from.
00:33:20.260So sound is vibration. Everything is vibration, right? And so music is vibration that is sent out
00:33:31.420and received with particular frequencies. And when intention, I mean, we're talking about
00:33:42.860magic. So you understand, we understand, all the witches listening understand that when intention
00:33:50.820is combined with vibration, that frequency is magnified. That intention is carried on those
00:33:58.880vibrations and music because it is something that exists as an energetic force and also as
00:34:10.220a force that can be tangibly received through the senses, through hearing, through feeling
00:34:20.440vibration. It is something that actually has a physical effect on the body. Those
00:34:28.420vibrations impact the body. They're absorbed by the body. They're received by the body.
00:34:32.980So music that is created with healing intention is received
00:34:37.500by those who are receptive to it as healing vibration. And I know personally
00:34:50.600that from the beginning, you know, singing in gospel choir, I started when I was four,
00:34:58.420was something that I could perceive how, as soon as the choir started to sing,
00:35:06.140as soon as the organ started to play, the energy in the room shifted.
00:35:10.900And it was always clear to me that it was the music that was making the change.
00:35:17.340It was the music that was putting everybody into a space of being on one accord,
00:35:24.180that was making people get happy and get the spirit and jump up and down and shout.
00:35:28.420And as I grew and learned more of my history, I came to understand that it was singing that was one of the main ways that Black folks had used to survive, you know, these experiences of oppression from Jim Crow through enslavement, through capture and colonization in Africa.
00:35:58.420that singing had been, had always been a means of survival and not just survival, but transcendence
00:36:08.380of, you know, finding oneself entrapped in a reality that is so wretched in so many ways
00:36:22.800and being able to tap into beauty and being able to tap into spiritual power through the voice,
00:36:31.660through singing and through collective singing, claiming freedom, claiming liberation in the
00:36:38.480moment. And also using that force, the power that is music, that is collective singing in particular
00:36:45.740to generate energy and generate power and generate a manifestation through movement work,
00:36:55.600the civil rights movement, labor movements, et cetera, et cetera, but the civil rights movement
00:37:01.940specifically. And so in my time working with and being mentored by Dr. Bernice Johnson-Regan,
00:37:09.180who's the founder of Sweet Honey in the Rock and one of the original SNCC Freedom Singers and
00:37:14.660amazing scholar and activist, I came to understand just how profoundly singing had
00:37:24.780brought us through so many trials and tribulations as Black folks. And I then saw myself situated
00:37:33.980inside of a lineage of of healers um and survivors who had sung their way through
00:37:43.380and that is um very central to how i understand my place in the world now at this point
00:37:52.020yeah and you brought me perfectly to the next thing i wanted to bring up which is that i know
00:37:57.820you do community sings for mlk day lift every voice and sing so for you we we talked about
00:38:06.060healing and we and we definitely touched on this but how how is singing political how is
00:38:11.020i'm sorry my dog is having a hello no don't be sorry hello
00:38:16.220what's your dog's name her name is bijou and i think maybe she's going to leave the room now
00:38:24.120she's digging in she's digging yeah it's me and the animals