Rowan & Pine: A Feminist Folklore & Mythology Podcast - July 09, 2025


Episode Forty-Five: Inanna, The Final Girl - Full bush⧸no bush (with Ewan)

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8,405

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00:00:00.040 Hey everyone, it's Emily with a short announcement. I'm going to be taking a break from the podcast
00:00:04.940 for a while. I've been trying to push to get episodes researched and out to you all
00:00:09.040 in a timely manner and it hasn't been going so well. I found my calling to change my career
00:00:14.000 path, but this has come with coursework, reading, and eventually I will be earning various
00:00:19.080 certifications. Being a stay-at-home mom with many other things going on, I have found myself
00:00:24.340 worn way too thin. Nev will carry the torch for a bit with some fun guests and you'll
00:00:29.400 probably hear me pop in now and then but i won't be doing full monthly episodes for a little while
00:00:33.780 thanks for listening and i hope you enjoy some of these new voices that you're gonna hear 0.70
00:00:38.160 fuck yeah folklore
00:00:39.600 hello hello uh you might have noticed that is not emily emily is taking a break from the podcast 0.99
00:00:54.940 right now she has a little bit too much going on um with her two young kids and various other
00:01:02.660 projects that she has in the works and i didn't want to leave you guys hanging because i realized
00:01:08.360 we missed our june episode so i just wanted to be sure that we had something for you for july
00:01:17.020 and onwards so hey presto i present my husband ewan greetings mortals that is actually very
00:01:26.400 strange because i used that exact same greeting about two episodes ago oh yeah where did we even
00:01:32.080 get that from uh what we do in the shadows oh yeah so it is um so yes ewan has very graciously
00:01:38.180 stepped in um i'll give you 10 seconds to be smug that your zombies episode was our most
00:01:44.560 downloaded episode ever i give the people what they want okay um and there you have it he is
00:01:52.500 very modest and you all know that from hearing him before but it also gives us an opportunity to
00:02:00.400 talk a little bit about the horror genre and horror movies because you probably know or you
00:02:08.500 have picked up that that isn't really emily's thing whereas i adore horror films and so does
00:02:13.680 you in this episode has been brought to you in association with mansplaining 0.88
00:02:18.260 yeah brace for the mansplaining i have tried to remind him that this is a feminist podcast
00:02:24.880 um i won't mansplain don't worry he is a feminist but um he's also a man so we can't really hold
00:02:31.800 that against him he's just not gonna respond to that i don't know what's a response you make me
00:02:38.460 my coffee every morning it's a cross that i bear so yes i think that's all the updates um you might
00:02:45.020 have some changing voices on the feed for the next few months we don't have a solid concrete date of
00:02:52.600 when emily will be back and i don't get paid for this and ewan does not get paid for this and emily
00:02:57.400 just sent me a seven minute voice clip so clearly she is missing podcasting because she's sending me
00:03:03.100 her own personal ones i'll listen to that later unless you guys want to hear some like very
00:03:07.120 personal details but emily and for my birthday neve bought me a synthesizer so i'll be hopefully
00:03:12.320 doing some cool synth music for the podcast i love how you just inserted that inside
00:03:18.820 you sound like a toddler for my birthday i got
00:03:22.500 my mommy bought me yeah so he got a synthesizer i haven't heard much of it because we can't
00:03:29.560 actually play any of it like any of it out loud you need to hook it up to something right yeah
00:03:33.100 Yeah, the cables are coming from Amazon next week.
00:03:35.720 Yeah, so he's going to be making very sensual Trent Reznor beats soon.
00:03:41.740 Either that or like amusement park music.
00:03:43.660 DJ, DJ.
00:03:45.500 Tick-to, tick-to, tick-to.
00:03:46.580 Turn the noise, turn up the noise.
00:03:48.580 Oh, I love that kid on TikTok who has like special needs
00:03:52.860 and that's very clearly his like current special interest.
00:03:55.880 And then didn't he get to go on the Walcers?
00:03:58.300 He did the...
00:03:58.880 He now does it.
00:03:59.840 I think like he actually does it for like a job or for a volunteer kind of thing.
00:04:04.080 That's amazing.
00:04:04.680 They let him do like the emcee announcements at the theme park.
00:04:08.480 That's so cool.
00:04:09.840 Yeah, cool, but I wouldn't want to live with it.
00:04:12.420 Yeah, to be fair.
00:04:13.160 That's a lot of noise every day.
00:04:14.760 Seven o'clock in the morning.
00:04:16.340 Techno!
00:04:17.060 My brother lives beside the amusements in Bundorn and Donegal.
00:04:21.660 And from like when it's bright until when it's dark, that's all he hears is scream if you want to go faster. 1.00
00:04:27.960 Why do they always put on that accent? 0.65
00:04:29.840 I don't know. It's like the RT radio or the radio voice in Ireland.
00:04:34.800 Yeah, that's that weird, like acquired accent.
00:04:37.540 Because it's probably some lad from Kinloch.
00:04:39.880 Yeah, it probably is some guy from Kinloch.
00:04:41.680 With like a faux English accent.
00:04:43.460 Well, you don't want to hear some book from Cavan going, scream if you want to go faster.
00:04:47.920 Wow, we're less than five minutes in and already the Cavan accent came out.
00:04:51.380 My loins are burning.
00:04:52.420 Yes, on to the show.
00:04:53.900 our angle for this episode
00:04:56.660 because we always give you a little bit of 0.97
00:04:58.840 folklore is the final girl
00:05:00.680 trope and who is the final girl 0.99
00:05:02.900 anybody
00:05:04.720 who's familiar with horror films will be
00:05:07.000 probably familiar with the
00:05:08.800 final girl trope she is
00:05:10.960 that woman who 1.00
00:05:12.800 is the last person standing at the end of 0.76
00:05:14.800 the film she is usually
00:05:16.800 the one that finally has 0.80
00:05:18.720 to put down the killer she
00:05:20.800 is the one who gets picked up by
00:05:22.820 the police there's usually some long shot of her sitting in the back of an ambulance with 0.99
00:05:27.820 one of those scratchy blankets over her it's always like nine times out of ten she's brunette 1.00
00:05:34.840 very seldom blonde because we all know that the blonde girl is just there for fucking and dying 1.00
00:05:39.800 yeah that's that's what they do that's that's what happens if you put bleach in your head you 1.00
00:05:44.500 just suddenly lose all agency and all ability to say no we'll get into that a lot more later
00:05:51.060 so i thought i would start with a rundown and definition of the final girl the final girl is
00:05:58.380 as a phrase or as a trope was coined in the 1990s specifically by an academic called carol j clover
00:06:07.940 in her book men women and chainsaws so the quote that i pulled is what is the final girl the image
00:06:16.860 of the distressed female most likely to linger in memory is the image of the one who did not die
00:06:21.800 the survivor or final girl she's the one who encounters the mutilated bodies of her friends
00:06:27.340 and perceives the full extent of the preceding horror and of her own peril she who is chased
00:06:33.880 cornered wounded whom we see scream stagger fall rise and scream again she is abject terror
00:06:40.980 personified if her friends knew they were about to die only seconds before the event the final
00:06:46.020 girl lives with the knowledge for long minutes or hours she alone looks death in the face but
00:06:50.840 she alone also finds the strength either stay to kill her long enough to be rescued ending a or to
00:06:56.860 kill him herself ending b also known as she has severe plot armor she ain't dying yeah plot armor
00:07:03.100 that's another another trope so it was sort of clover goes into it that it's it's sort of a 0.99
00:07:09.120 it's a reaction to feminism because it started showing up in late 70s early 80s um when
00:07:16.960 feminism was having a is that a second second wave i can never get the waves right in my head
00:07:23.720 and it was a way of having a little bit of that exploitation cinema and sexploitation but still
00:07:33.260 giving the women a win at the end of it and clover also theorizes a little bit that
00:07:39.940 the final girl is a stand-in for the parts of men's psyches that they don't feel comfortable
00:07:49.260 showing so a final girl gets to scream and she gets to cry and she gets to be scared whereas
00:07:55.480 under the patriarchy men aren't really supposed to do that they're not really supposed to be
00:08:00.560 huddled in a corner or underneath a table just waiting to be found by a killer so the final girl
00:08:07.420 is a bit of a stand-in for that she also uses a lot of quite outdated language along the gender 0.97
00:08:12.100 binary but i'm not going to get into that because you're not here for that so um just some bullet
00:08:17.860 points on the final girl she survives when other others do not is often initially underestimated
00:08:24.780 or ignored she becomes
00:08:26.820 the first to fully understand the threat
00:08:28.900 she endures
00:08:31.020 trauma transforming
00:08:32.480 from passive to active
00:08:34.260 often becomes violent claiming
00:08:36.780 a phallic weapon usually
00:08:38.200 like a knife a gun or an axe or 0.53
00:08:40.880 maybe a flamethrower 1.00
00:08:41.780 I call phallic men willies 1.00
00:08:44.500 yeah that is what it means
00:08:46.700 it's willie shaped she's not going grabbing
00:08:48.860 willies 1.00
00:08:49.400 give me your willie
00:08:51.840 she maintains a kind of moral 0.67
00:08:54.760 or emotional purity but increasingly shows rage and agency and she is usually not rescued or she
00:09:01.500 rescues herself. So if that puts you in mind of anybody I know the first person I thought of
00:09:07.760 Ellen Ripley and that is the main reason why I asked Ewan to be on this because
00:09:13.240 if Ewan knows anything he knows the Alien franchise.
00:09:16.600 do you want to give me a plot rundown of ripley's arc for alien by the way spoilers for alien
00:09:25.620 alien is about a deep space hauling company um who while they're in cryogenic stasis flying
00:09:33.360 light years across space which like i think it's like 50 years or something they're frozen in
00:09:39.840 cryogenic sleep and they get woken up by a distress call and they go down to the distress
00:09:45.460 the distress call i feel like everybody's seen alien so no they haven't laura hasn't seen alien
00:09:50.380 by the way laura this is your call out you haven't watched alien and you're a horror fan
00:09:53.680 yeah laura start your life out um so yeah they get um a distress call gets into interrupts
00:10:01.840 their cryogenic stasis they go down on the planet to investigate one of the crew members brings back
00:10:07.820 a parasite on board inside him then you have the infamous chestburster scene where an alien bursts
00:10:14.780 out of him the alien runs riot how does how does ripley react to that like a boss ripley was like
00:10:21.980 my first crush and that's why the cat is called ripley yes our cat is called ripley ripley's a
00:10:28.300 ripley's a woman's woman ripley don't need no man like they originally actually had um a romantic
00:10:33.820 scene involving her and the captain but they cut it out which i'm glad but ripley was actually
00:10:38.040 written as um it could have been a male or a female character i think it was written as a man
00:10:42.220 at the start but um ridley scott pushed for the character to be female and i don't know it just
00:10:48.900 works and it was the start of uh for me anyway it was the first movie i ever saw where the woman
00:10:54.200 isn't basically just there to scream and be cannon fodder um and she survives and spawned many many
00:11:01.880 sequels yeah so she she's the first to sort of identify what's happening isn't she yeah i remember
00:11:09.100 so she figures out what's going on she she doesn't collapse in the face of danger she's tough
00:11:14.980 sings a little song at the end she dances her in her underwear before she gets on her space suit 1.00
00:11:20.840 just for the boys to keep them interested for the boys but didn't she get her pubes surgically
00:11:26.200 removed or surgically digitally removed i is that true because i love that i don't know well back
00:11:33.880 then it was like full bush so you can you can see some things yeah there was there was a rumor that
00:11:38.900 or an anecdote that apparently made it off the alien set
00:11:42.260 that Sigourney Weaver refused to shave her pubes
00:11:45.380 for her underwear dancing scene. 1.00
00:11:47.140 She was like, no, fuck you. 1.00
00:11:48.180 So I'm not doing that. 0.99
00:11:49.220 So they had to digitally remove them later
00:11:50.980 to make it safe for cinema,
00:11:53.220 which if true, huge if true, would be great.
00:11:56.620 In space, there is no bush.
00:11:58.100 In space, there's no bush.
00:12:00.300 But Ripley's just like probably one of the most famous examples.
00:12:03.960 Then you have Laurie Stroud from Halloween,
00:12:06.740 which is Jamie Lee Curtis.
00:12:08.900 You have Ashley Lawrence, who plays Kirstie Cotton in Hellraiser 1 and 2.
00:12:15.240 There's an awful lot that you could go into.
00:12:16.720 Lately, there's Maxine with Mia Goth, the woman with the really strange accent
00:12:24.200 who's gone out with Shia LaBeouf.
00:12:25.620 I love strawberries. 1.00
00:12:27.280 She loves strawberries. 1.00
00:12:28.140 Strawberries and blueberries.
00:12:29.680 But yeah, so there's kind of multiple instances.
00:12:33.320 There's Halloween, Alien, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Scream.
00:12:37.680 you have um sydney prescott played by neve campbell and i think gail weathers as well
00:12:43.900 which is corny cock did she die i don't know i kind of gave up after scream 50 um
00:12:49.440 she makes it a few films at least and then kind of in the modern times you have maxine and you have 0.79
00:12:55.240 um the lady who's in the terror fire one and two oh and also there's the famous one of um psycho
00:13:01.920 and Texas Chainsaw Massacre
00:13:04.200 yes
00:13:05.620 Texas Chainsaw Massacre
00:13:07.980 was actually an inspiration for
00:13:09.900 Clover writing her book about
00:13:11.860 final girls and
00:13:13.420 you know how she really came up with the trope 1.00
00:13:16.080 so yeah
00:13:17.540 thank you for your gushing
00:13:19.840 about Ripley
00:13:21.480 that was very helpful
00:13:22.360 and her pubes 1.00
00:13:24.400 just as a little rundown of 1.00
00:13:27.940 how Ripley is the final girl
00:13:29.680 so she survives when others die she's the last crew remember alive in alien and in aliens she
00:13:37.340 gets killed in alien 3 but a lot of people don't count that movie as canon and then she gets
00:13:41.640 resurrected in alien 4 yeah i was actually gonna ask you like where should we cut it off for her
00:13:48.480 final girl arc i don't know where she she was final girl in alien that's all that matters maybe 1.00
00:13:52.660 she stopped because she had sex because that's one of those she stops when she gets laid she 0.95
00:13:57.240 stops being a final girl yeah she had sex in alien 3 and she died remember kids what's up from freaks 0.99
00:14:03.180 and geeks and you hear about little jimmy around the corner he had sex and you know what happened 0.98
00:14:06.880 he died she's underestimated so ash and dallas dismiss her concerns early on she isn't the
00:14:13.940 captain or the combat leader she is yet yet she becomes the one who comes out on top she understands
00:14:20.100 the xenomorph life cycle xenomorphs are the aliens in alien she understands xenomorph life cycle
00:14:25.560 before the rest she warns them about contamination isolation and the queen's danger eventually she
00:14:30.980 made reebok bug stampers very cool shoes if you don't know if you don't know what they are google
00:14:35.640 reebok bug stampers they actually made a comeback in alien romulus which is kaylee spenny which
00:14:42.740 technically she's final girl yeah she would be a final girl well i don't think it would be an
00:14:46.520 alien film if there wasn't well she's final girl plus robot so yeah she weaponizes her womanhood 1.00
00:14:51.580 so in aliens her maternal instincts 1.00
00:14:54.000 don't make her soft they actually spur her on 0.99
00:14:56.200 and drive her to arm herself 0.56
00:14:57.920 with the aforementioned flamethrower 0.69
00:14:59.560 to protect a little girl that she comes
00:15:01.960 across named Newt
00:15:02.860 they mostly come out at night
00:15:05.840 I knew you were going to say
00:15:08.000 they mostly come out at night
00:15:11.600 mostly 0.96
00:15:12.940 Casey doesn't have dreams she's just a piece of plastic
00:15:16.320 and then she goes through a rebirth sort of resurrection in alien 3 and alien resurrection
00:15:25.840 she dies and is spoiler cloned physically altered emotionally hardened yet still recognizably herself 0.98
00:15:33.120 because god forbid a woman don't be hot and she had sex with tywin lannister in alien 3 and she 0.81
00:15:38.920 died and she died and that is like the cardinal sin of a woman in a horror movie you do not have 0.98
00:15:44.540 sex or you will die well within reason yeah just building on her womanhood she's not emotionalist 0.80
00:15:50.960 she loves and she grieves and she protects but she also kills without flinching um which we respect 0.96
00:15:57.080 that she's like the textbook final girl um but it's more it becomes more apparent as the films
00:16:04.460 go on and somebody else that you mentioned who is another final girl is sydney prescott from
00:16:11.080 the scream movies so sydney she survives multiple horror narratives not just once but through
00:16:17.440 five plus films she consistently outlives her killers she's also underestimated early on
00:16:24.500 she spawned the scary movie franchise she did she did do that she gave the world anna faris
00:16:30.620 god bless her for that yeah so she is also underestimated early on because she's a teenager
00:16:35.920 literally in the first film she's vulnerable she's grieving the loss of her mom isn't that
00:16:40.860 right in the first film and she's emotionally fragile but she has to prove herself far more
00:16:47.500 capable than that she's the first person to question and notice danger they sort of think
00:16:52.080 she's paranoid but she keeps it pg-13 she does keep it pg-13 and she survives she doesn't she
00:16:58.580 doesn't do the deed and she survives are we noticing a trend here she she managed to say no 1.00
00:17:04.340 to 90s heartthrob skeechul rick which i know which i know neve is very fond of fucking respect for 0.91
00:17:09.760 that just jesus christ do you ever see him now though he just looks dirty no he looks even better 0.88
00:17:14.180 now what are you talking about oh my god he's just improved with age maybe i'll just put skeet
00:17:21.460 ulrich as picture like the cover of the of this this episode elderly skeet ulrich he's not elderly
00:17:30.020 he's like in his 50s or something that's pretty old that's not elderly how very dare you so yeah
00:17:38.180 sydney is morally complex but she's grounded um she's portrayed as smart empathetic emotionally 0.88
00:17:43.820 resilient and she maintains her moral core by not fucking ski ulrich um she survives by adapting
00:17:51.620 because that's actually one of the things i really liked about isn't it scream 2 where she's in 0.91
00:17:57.100 college and she has like started like using a lot like it's a lot of paranoia but she's like
00:18:03.540 trained in weapons and she has like alarms and like she started taking precautions she has her
00:18:08.140 rape whistle for when the ghost face start chasing her around the ghost the ghost well you know it
00:18:14.720 couldn't happen in ireland anyway because she wouldn't have been able to resist each other 1.00
00:18:18.500 because she'd be neck deep in two liter bottle of linden village puking in a field being like
00:18:24.720 it doesn't matter skeech you're such a handsome fella that's always really funny because like
00:18:29.700 irish teenage boys would have never climbed into a girl's window to get some strange that's because 1.00
00:18:34.680 the fucking father and mother 1.00
00:18:35.760 would be inside 1.00
00:18:36.220 and they'd hear you
00:18:36.740 they'd hear everything
00:18:37.560 also Irish houses are tiny 1.00
00:18:39.060 so yeah they would 1.00
00:18:39.880 definitely hear you
00:18:40.800 no double blades
00:18:41.940 in our day
00:18:42.540 no and you'd have
00:18:43.240 we also have no balconies
00:18:44.460 and like daddy being
00:18:46.340 inside watching
00:18:47.260 match of the day
00:18:47.900 looking outside 0.99
00:18:48.660 who the fuck's out there 0.99
00:18:50.120 one of the notes 0.99
00:18:52.140 that I had down
00:18:53.080 from like one of the reviews
00:18:54.360 that I was saying was
00:18:55.180 Sydney refuses to be
00:18:56.360 manipulated by her trauma
00:18:57.660 but I would argue
00:18:58.620 that she does 0.74
00:18:59.260 she evolves a lot
00:19:00.500 due to her trauma
00:19:01.300 which is not like
00:19:02.400 isn't she like
00:19:03.000 in the whole second movie
00:19:04.020 like hallucinating
00:19:04.840 and imagining things
00:19:06.000 and afraid of her own shadow
00:19:07.400 yeah
00:19:07.840 I don't know where they got this 1.00
00:19:09.200 she fights back 0.97
00:19:10.700 physically
00:19:11.180 and psychologically
00:19:12.280 she outsmarts
00:19:13.660 stabs 1.00
00:19:14.180 shoots
00:19:14.440 and sets traps
00:19:15.520 she's emotionally layered 0.96
00:19:17.500 because of her grief
00:19:18.380 and vulnerability
00:19:18.980 but also her rage
00:19:20.260 as the franchise goes on 0.87
00:19:21.680 she had no flamethrower 0.61
00:19:22.840 she had no flamethrower 0.66
00:19:24.460 sure 0.96
00:19:25.080 we can't all have one
00:19:26.340 so
00:19:26.960 she
00:19:27.680 goes through all that
00:19:28.780 kind of becomes
00:19:29.760 more of a protector
00:19:30.620 towards the end of her arc
00:19:32.720 and
00:19:33.480 she really redefined the final girl archetype because she just keeps coming back so i thought
00:19:42.660 is the final girl trope is that truly new or can we trace it back through mythology because
00:19:50.740 this is a mythology folklore podcast in case you forgot you lied to me you told me this was about
00:19:55.520 films and you'd make me coffee afterwards it's too late for coffee you can't have one
00:19:59.440 i stole one of your pepsi maxes curse upon you pox be upon you this episode is not sponsored 0.98
00:20:07.960 by pepsi max but hey pepsi yeah fucking hell if you want to we'd save a fortune if you want to 0.99
00:20:13.680 sponsor me i'll not say no i'll say whatever you want man wait are we not supposed to be endorsing 0.98
00:20:18.680 pepsi are they one of the bad people i don't know everybody's bad i know coca-cola you're not 1.00
00:20:22.820 supposed to be endorsing sure they're all bad yeah they're all bad it's like it's it's fucking 0.84
00:20:27.820 hard to keep up to be honest i interrupted your perfect transition into podcast or into folklore 0.79
00:20:34.040 i know you did but that's okay you're not a professional no i'm not i wanted to deep dive
00:20:39.220 back into if there were final girls before and if we could identify them and as you know if you
00:20:47.160 listened to the last few episodes women in folklore tend to be treated the best they're
00:20:52.660 usually villainized they usually die a horrible death at the end of their story um so i wanted
00:20:59.360 to find a final girl i wanted somebody to root for and the person that i found is a mesopotamian
00:21:06.900 goddess named inanna in the sumerian tradition or ishtar in the akkadian tradition i'll be calling
00:21:13.220 her inanna for the duration of this now all i can hear is oh nana what's my name all right well all
00:21:21.380 of my notes say inanna so i'm not changing that or what did the like the minions oh nana
00:21:25.800 banana inanna is one of them why can't you ruin it now you regret bringing me onto the podcast
00:21:33.080 of course i do inanna or ishtar is one of the most part powerful and paradoxical deities of
00:21:39.620 the ancient mesopotamian pantheon she embodies love war desire and destruction political power
00:21:46.780 and liminality so your girl's got everything that's just everything that you could possibly 0.95
00:21:51.560 want to be i don't know how she doesn't have oh my god he's just put up a minions picture on his
00:21:56.180 why have you put up a minion to see how many times you can say oh no no stop okay the minions are
00:22:05.580 gone i never understood minions what is the appeal of them anyway yes i don't understand
00:22:10.840 how Inanna isn't talked about more because
00:22:12.900 she is everything that a
00:22:14.740 modern goddess would be. 1.00
00:22:16.740 She should get her own TV show. 0.95
00:22:18.620 So she is deeply associated
00:22:20.900 with sexuality. Full bush
00:22:22.880 or no bush. She would definitely be full bush.
00:22:24.920 Full bush. Not only as a goddess 0.99
00:22:26.860 of love and fertility but also as 0.99
00:22:28.780 a patron of prostitutes or sex 0.76
00:22:30.820 workers if you're being PC. She out there 1.00
00:22:32.640 fucking. She out there fucking. 1.00
00:22:34.940 An intermediary for desires 1.00
00:22:36.820 unfulfilled or denied.
00:22:38.640 that's like delightfully vague isn't it desires unfulfilled or denied there was no me too back 0.64
00:22:44.500 then jesus christ in poetry she is unabashed in her eroticism demanding pleasure and union yet
00:22:53.540 her sexuality is often bound up with political power as seen in the sacred marriage right where
00:22:58.960 kings symbolically wedded the goddess to ensure prosperity so you know the way the nuns marry
00:23:04.400 jesus yeah the old kings of mesopotamia married inanna like she was imaginary yeah like um they
00:23:12.600 had like a symbolic marriage another way nuns wear wedding rings because of jesus i always thought
00:23:16.920 that was weird but anyway already we have inanna sort of diverting away from the final girl trope
00:23:22.160 because she's not exactly virginal but you'll see how it comes together otherwise even when she is
00:23:29.420 depicted as a young woman under patriarchal control her marriage arranged by her family
00:23:34.020 she still negotiates her terms asserting her own agency in other stories she pursues lovers
00:23:40.160 directly as in the epic of gilgamesh where her advances are rejected by the hero who accuses
00:23:46.280 her of devouring those who love her which what an accusation that's the kind of oh my god if
00:23:53.580 if a man doesn't accuse you that you're doing something wrong well you've never seen a woman
00:23:57.740 and getting rejected in a nightclub
00:23:59.260 and going and destroying a kebab, obviously. 0.94
00:24:01.300 Destroying, like, with her mouth? 0.90
00:24:03.180 Well, I hope so.
00:24:04.480 Well, the way you said that,
00:24:05.460 it sounded like she was throwing it at windows or something.
00:24:09.200 Ah! 0.96
00:24:10.680 That meme of the woman in Belvedere. 1.00
00:24:12.380 What a kebab! 1.00
00:24:18.040 As a war goddess, Inanna is bloodthirsty and glorious. 0.99
00:24:22.380 Battle is a feast to her, is the quote. 0.84
00:24:25.080 She's invoked in royal inscriptions
00:24:26.620 as a protector of kings and empires, especially in Assyria, where two aspects of her, Ishtar of
00:24:33.360 Nineveh and Ishtar of Abela, were deeply tied to the monarchy. Her warrior identity is often
00:24:40.100 masculine coded, which, have you noticed that our final girls have boyish names? Ripley, Sydney,
00:24:48.080 you know, that's another aspect of the final girl. She dons armour, grows a beard in iconography, 0.71
00:24:54.840 and is shown standing atop lions or bristling with weapons. 0.92
00:24:58.820 This duality, feminine sexuality and masculine power,
00:25:02.040 makes her iconography one of contrasts. 0.99
00:25:04.560 Soft nudity and sensuality paired with lethal aggression.
00:25:08.620 Sounds pretty final girly to me, huh?
00:25:10.560 Sure does. 0.99
00:25:12.320 She is also a celestial goddess, 1.00
00:25:14.360 symbolized by the eight-pointed star and linked to the planet Venus. 0.93
00:25:18.840 Myths like Inanna and Su-Kalituda,
00:25:22.460 I apologize if I'm saying that wrong,
00:25:24.180 or inanna and enki mirror the movements of the venus star across the sky her celestial journey
00:25:30.180 may have been reenacted in temple rituals and seasonal festivals but her most defining myth
00:25:36.460 is the descent to the underworld in which she chooses to descend into her sister's realm
00:25:42.340 and that is where we will transition into our folk tale
00:25:48.820 From the high places of heaven
00:25:54.540 Inanna, queen of heaven and earth
00:25:57.940 Heard the call of the great below
00:26:00.500 It was not a summons, but a pull
00:26:04.980 An echo that throbbed in her chest
00:26:07.760 Like a second heartbeat
00:26:09.380 And so, she chose to descend
00:26:13.180 She clothed herself in sacred symbols, the crown of heaven, a necklace of lapis beads, golden rings, and her breastplate.
00:26:27.140 Come, man, come.
00:26:31.080 Coal rimmed her eyes. Power clung to her skin like perfume. 0.99
00:26:35.220 She gathered the seven divine meh, powers of civilization
00:26:40.020 And gave strict instructions to her faithful servant in Schuber
00:26:44.960 If I do not return in three days, go to the gods
00:26:51.000 Cry out, tear your skin and clothes, do not let me be forgotten
00:27:00.440 To the gate of the underworld she came 0.97
00:27:03.180 She knocked and her sister Ereshkigal, Queen of the Dead, heard her
00:27:10.320 Ereshkigal was not pleased
00:27:14.020 She gave an order 0.99
00:27:15.980 Let her in, but strip her, gate by gate 1.00
00:27:26.060 At the first gate, Inanna surrendered her crown 1.00
00:27:29.900 At the second, her beads
00:27:32.960 At the third, her breastplate
00:27:36.300 At the fourth, her gold ring
00:27:38.180 The fifth, her measuring rod
00:27:40.980 The sixth, her robe 0.66
00:27:43.020 At the seventh, she stood naked and bowed low
00:27:48.740 At every gate, she asked, what is this?
00:27:54.340 And each time, the gatekeeper answered
00:27:56.660 The ways of the underworld are perfect
00:28:00.280 They may not be questioned 0.95
00:28:02.220 So she came before Ereshkigal, stripped and powerless. 0.95
00:28:10.680 There were judges, silent as shadows, cloaked in dust.
00:28:15.260 They looked upon her without eyes, their mouths unmoving.
00:28:21.640 Ereshkigal fixed her with the eye of death.
00:28:25.280 She spoke the word of wrath.
00:28:27.300 She uttered the cry of guilt.
00:28:29.180 And Inanna was struck down
00:28:33.520 Her lifeless body was hung from hook on the wall like meat
00:28:38.200 Suspended in silence
00:28:40.320 Her skin grew cold
00:28:43.280 Her eyes turned to glass
00:28:45.660 The chamber echoed with stillness
00:28:49.060 And the walls wept black water
00:28:51.800 Three days passed 1.00
00:28:59.260 Ninshubur, true to her word, tore her hair, clawed her thighs, and cried out to the gods. 0.99
00:29:06.960 Enlil refused. 1.00
00:29:09.180 Nana refused.
00:29:11.420 Only Enki, god of wisdom, heard and answered. 0.89
00:29:17.240 From dirt beneath his nails, he shaped two beings who were neither male nor female.
00:29:23.300 They knew no hunger or thirst, only compassion.
00:29:28.340 They crept into the great below and found Ereshkigal groaning in anguish, her cries echoing through stone.
00:29:40.140 She writhed like a serpent, blood streamed from her womb. 0.73
00:29:45.240 Her nails scraped the floor, her shrieks split the air.
00:29:49.960 The beings did not flinch or flee, they simply listened.
00:29:54.660 Oh, my heart, she cried.
00:29:57.880 Oh, your heart, they answered.
00:30:00.760 My insides.
00:30:02.960 Oh, your insides.
00:30:06.300 Ereshkigal, softened by their mirrored pain, offered them a gift. 0.53
00:30:11.860 They asked only for the body on the hook. 0.52
00:30:15.960 She agreed.
00:30:17.600 They sprinkled Inanna with the food and water of life.
00:30:21.060 And Inanna rose
00:30:23.860 But none returned from the great below without consequence 0.53
00:30:32.440 She was told, send another in your place
00:30:36.600 The demons clung to her as she ascended
00:30:40.600 The gala, streaking things with hollow eyes and crooked limbs
00:30:44.440 They followed her like smoke 0.99
00:30:46.020 They hungered for a soul 0.70
00:30:48.160 They reached for her servant in Shubur, but Inanna refused
00:30:55.180 For her sons, and she refused
00:30:58.820 For her loyal attendants, she refused
00:31:01.920 Then they found Dumuzi, her husband
00:31:08.000 Seated on his throne in fine clothes, untouched by morning
00:31:13.560 Inanna saw him and her eyes turned to flint
00:31:19.420 She spoke the word of wrath
00:31:23.420 She uttered the cry of guilt
00:31:25.920 And she gave him to the dark 1.00
00:31:28.620 Dumuzi fled but could not outrun fate
00:31:38.060 The demons seized him in the fields
00:31:41.380 He screamed and thrashed, but the earth opened.
00:31:45.740 His sister, coming upon the scene, wept and offered to share his burden.
00:31:51.880 And so it was agreed.
00:31:54.560 Six months he would stay in the great below.
00:31:57.660 Six months he would walk the world.
00:32:00.900 And so the cycle of seasons began. 0.98
00:32:07.800 Inanna returned to the land of the living. 0.96
00:32:09.880 not as she was
00:32:12.060 but as one who has passed through silence and shadow
00:32:15.520 and come back with her name intact
00:32:18.400 she had descended
00:32:20.900 she had died
00:32:22.520 she had risen
00:32:24.560 and the world turned beneath her feet
00:32:28.120 once more 0.65
00:32:35.260 Big Manda Muzi
00:32:36.300 chilling at home playing FIFA 1.00
00:32:38.200 he probably was fuck's sake drinking pepsi max tamuzi fucked up yeah he really fucked up 1.00
00:32:45.960 so mourn your wife if she disappears for fuck's sake did nobody watch gone girl nobody wants 1.00
00:32:51.280 somebody whose in-laws protect them from their shitty behavior let's recap how inanna is in my 1.00
00:32:57.780 opinion a final girl so she initiates her descent she chooses to go into the realm of death um so 0.98
00:33:04.960 that's kind of like you know like the third act in a horror movie where she's just like no i'm 0.78
00:33:08.620 gonna fucking get this killer or monster or whatever it is she's like i'm done i'm gonna go 0.71
00:33:13.820 sort this out she is stripped bare at each gate so she loses her clothing um that's similar to 1.00
00:33:21.600 a final girl losing her friends losing her possessions because a lot of times that she's
00:33:28.400 left with literally nothing at the end of the film and she has to go and start again
00:33:32.860 she is in anna is killed and hung on a hook yet she returns changed so she rises only by sacrifice
00:33:42.320 and when she returns she's colder and she's tougher her resurrection marks her transformation
00:33:47.420 from divine ingenue to queen of both life and death she also becomes murderous like a final
00:33:55.240 girl she's no longer afraid to kill she sentences her lover to take her place but her mercy has 1.00
00:34:01.840 boundaries so like she's only sacrificing him because she feels like he deserves it because 1.00
00:34:06.120 he wasn't mourning her he was just fucking lounging about playing fifa she uses her emotion 1.00
00:34:12.060 to fuel her and give her power so she mourns she loves but she also enforces justice emotion 0.94
00:34:18.040 doesn't undermine her authority it cements it so i believe inanna is the mythic prototype of the 0.80
00:34:25.020 final girl um she's the one who dares to journey into death endures violation and disempowerment
00:34:31.860 and she returns more powerful than anyone expected so that's like we have ripley who
00:34:37.860 becomes isolated she's underestimated she's transformed she is a survivor she's emotionally
00:34:44.440 complex her love and her feminine instincts become a strength to her and she's unafraid to 1.00
00:34:53.220 kill those fuckers who need to be killed it's also a mirror of sydney prescott both inanna and sydney 0.99
00:35:01.300 are marked for death but they don't stay victims they both learn to choose their allies especially 1.00
00:35:06.500 sydney because especially in the first scream film she doesn't have a clue who to trust
00:35:11.700 and she's wrong a lot of the time especially with billy but she suspects billy right oh it's been a
00:35:18.220 long time since i think she suspects like everybody but that was like the point about
00:35:21.880 because we didn't know as an audience we're like who's the killer i still it's one of my greatest
00:35:26.400 regrets that i saw a scary movie before i saw screen oh did you really yeah did i tell you
00:35:31.400 that before yeah because i think the rating of scary movie must have been a bit lower or something
00:35:36.040 no way so scary movie was like hard rated 18s or for the american listeners rated r maybe it was
00:35:44.960 just that scream came out when i was like finally old enough to be renting films yeah maybe um but
00:35:50.380 yeah i saw a scary movie and like obviously we thought it was funny but we didn't get
00:35:54.140 any of the references oh shit okay yeah because i saw a scream first and i obviously understood 0.60
00:35:58.860 all the references yeah so then when i saw scream like from the very beginning you know when it's 0.71
00:36:04.080 like drew barrymore and not carmen electra you're like oh i see what they were going for
00:36:09.280 was it like did we watch it was it like how it's made or something like that and they were talking
00:36:13.200 about how it was a huge thing that drew barrymore was in it because everyone thought she was the
00:36:16.900 star and then she gets like spoiler killed in the first 10 minutes and it's like carmen electra
00:36:21.580 and scary movie yeah it's carmen electra and scary movie i actually i just have a flashback
00:36:26.200 of watching scary movie with like two spanish guys that were like you know the spanish exchange
00:36:32.820 students that stay in our town and they they were chatting away in spanish and then the only
00:36:38.180 the only words i understood was carmen electra
00:36:40.800 sydney's betrayal fuels her strength just like inanna's did and they cross the threshold
00:36:49.840 between life and death and return changed so sydney faces death in every film and still comes
00:36:54.780 out alive but not untouched like the trauma of seeing so much death change changes her
00:36:59.860 similar to how inanna's journey through the great below marks her forever um she's no longer just
00:37:05.820 the goddess of love and war she becomes something in between a boundary walker neither dead nor
00:37:10.740 untouched by death but another one of my favorite horror films all female cast 10 out of 10 that i
00:37:19.040 couldn't help but contrast with the descent of anana um that is the film the descent by neil
00:37:26.160 marshall by neil marshall thank you and there was a man and he died at the start of it yeah but it's
00:37:32.960 like all the good stuff is by the women unless you're counting the creatures we don't know what 0.99
00:37:38.400 they identify as we don't know we don't see their little widgers when they're climbing around in the
00:37:42.800 dark for anybody who hasn't seen the descent i'll give you a quick plot rundown obviously spoilers
00:37:48.920 for the descent but i'm pretty sure it's 20 years old at this point after a tragic accident claims
00:37:54.140 the lives of her husband and child sarah reunites with a group of her female friends for their
00:37:58.760 annual adventure getaway this time they go spelunking you all know my feelings on rock
00:38:04.380 climbing and mountaineering and spelunking just stay in your house stop going those places and
00:38:09.400 stop making people rescue you but anyway they go spelunking in a remote cave system in appalachian
00:38:14.640 mountains where their leader juno brings them to a more dangerous path and they get trapped
00:38:19.240 as tensions rise and old betrayals surface they discover they are not alone the cave is inhabited 0.62
00:38:24.620 by feral humanoid creatures blind flesh-eating predators with or without penises we don't know
00:38:31.460 evolved to survive in the dark so as sarah descends deeper both physically and psychologically 0.75
00:38:38.280 she transforms her grief rage and betrayal fuel her brutal will to live and in a blood-soaked
00:38:45.620 final act she confronts both juno's betrayal so juno is like a sister to her juno was banging 0.82
00:38:51.160 her husband yeah yes that she finds out when she's down there that juno was sleeping with
00:38:57.060 her now dead husband so she's not going to be able to take out her frustrations on her dead
00:39:01.860 husband but uh judo is right there depending on the version that you watch the u.s version
00:39:08.680 why can't i say it the u.s version has a happy and hopeful ending uh where sarah escapes into the
00:39:17.220 light and that's your final girl trope and that's my final girl trope so that's the one i'll be
00:39:22.360 clinging to the uk has a very different end we have we have the real end and like the butterfly
00:39:26.760 effect ending the fucked up ending yeah i i prefer the fucked up ending so much more the same i like 0.78
00:39:33.120 i love a grim ending yeah so both the myth and the film the descent are strikingly female dominated 0.96
00:39:39.880 inanna faces her sister not technically a male villain but the betrayal of sisters and sisterhood
00:39:46.680 is there in the descent you have a descent into death and the self inanna chooses to descend and
00:39:53.300 so does Sarah in The Descent. Sarah in a literal way. She's grieving her daughter and her husband,
00:40:00.380 seeking distraction, but what she finds is a combination of grief, rage, and rebirth.
00:40:07.500 And then Inanna in the story, her dismemberment mirrors the psychological unravelling and the
00:40:13.880 death, depending on your ending, that Sarah experiences. And then you have the betrayal.
00:40:19.120 so Inanna is betrayed
00:40:20.860 or at least judged by her sister
00:40:22.940 and she's killed by her sister
00:40:24.840 and her husband when he's not
00:40:27.160 mourning her. Sarah is betrayed
00:40:29.160 by Juno who not only leads the group into
00:40:31.180 an unmapped cave but had an affair
00:40:33.100 with Sarah's husband. Tramp. 0.98
00:40:34.760 She was very pretty though. Not that it's okay
00:40:36.780 like to make it believable it was believable 0.98
00:40:39.220 that she was banging her husband. 0.85
00:40:41.900 And then you have a
00:40:43.060 transformation. Inanna returns changed
00:40:45.140 hardened and she sacrifices her husband 0.95
00:40:47.280 to the underworld and Sarah too
00:40:48.880 emerges if she emerges transformed blood-soaked reborn and eerily calm well not really eerily
00:40:55.340 calm she does get into her car at the end um in the american ending the american ending does she
00:41:02.480 get out yeah in the american end she gets out gets in her car and drives away happily ever after
00:41:06.740 in the uk version she like gets out gets into her car and then like looks in the back i think and
00:41:13.140 sees one of the creatures and then she wakes up but she actually is still in the cave and she 0.80
00:41:17.560 didn't escape at all yeah she didn't escape at all because in the uk version she had sex
00:41:20.940 must be what happened and she died so yeah i just thought like it was actually amazing how much the
00:41:29.620 dissent mirrors it and like the fact that i don't think there was any intention for them to mirror
00:41:35.900 that myth but the whole like themes of betrayal of sisterhood and literally descending into darkness
00:41:42.240 and i would say it's a little bit influenced by it because nowadays nothing is original and
00:41:47.640 everything kind of rips off something else yeah i love that inanna like fits most of i would say
00:41:54.220 about 95 of the final girl tropes um if you contrast her with ripley and with sydney prescott
00:42:02.180 and who's the girl from hellraiser again kirsty cotton kirsty cotton because that's really like
00:42:08.260 a descent into the underworld sort of thing or in a hell dimension right like it's it's usually that
00:42:13.540 big transition that is like the catalyst for change so it can be like their symbolic descent
00:42:18.740 it could be their moral descent where they finally start fighting back and realizing that they're not
00:42:24.460 going to get out of this without hurting anybody and that's when they start like in the case of
00:42:29.440 sydney prescott actually fighting their their pursuer in alien you have ripley actually actively
00:42:36.680 setting traps and using her flamethrower and getting into that big robot machine what's it 0.99
00:42:44.500 called the cargo loader the cargo the big robot machine where she looked like the thing from
00:42:49.620 robocop but yeah like it's i think that whole like descent into the underworld is like a theme
00:42:55.220 that's really rippled throughout all of these films and these final girls and i like how it's
00:43:00.220 evolving as well that it's like they don't exactly have to stay completely virginal i mean my favorite
00:43:06.660 subversion of any of these tropes has to be cabin in the woods and i am going to give like a serious
00:43:14.320 spoiler for cabin in the woods because i just want everybody to go into that film blind like we did
00:43:19.100 not knowing what was going to happen it is the absolute best way to watch it right and skip
00:43:24.780 forward if you have not seen cabin in the woods so cabin in the woods you have it's literally set
00:43:29.860 up as horror movie tropes being deliberately invoked so that it turns out to be a big apocalypse
00:43:38.180 ritual it's basically to have enough sacrifices in order to fuel the apocalypse um but the best
00:43:44.780 thing about it is it's all tropes that we would have grown up with and that we're used to so you
00:43:49.540 have like the sexy teens in the slasher movie and the geek and the jock and the virgin yeah and it
00:43:57.820 even goes so far as even if they can't find participants who fit into the tropes that are
00:44:03.500 from horror movies yeah it's like chris hemsworth is supposed to be the beefcake jock but he's like
00:44:10.220 a science major or something yeah so it's it deliberately like don't they like administer 0.99
00:44:16.340 the chemicals yeah they dose them with pheromones yeah to turn them into horny idiots yeah and then 0.99
00:44:22.660 the main character it's sort of mentioned at the very start that she all of a sudden decided to 0.99
00:44:27.640 dye her hair blonde and it's like the people who are in charge are like influencing this before
00:44:34.620 they even get to the quote-unquote cabin in the woods um so they make her blonde so she is going 0.97
00:44:40.500 to be like the sacrificial dumb blonde bimbo who dies very early on in the film and is probably 0.97
00:44:45.800 best friends with the brunette final girl and it's just such a it's such an interesting way of 0.98
00:44:51.580 pulling apart the tropes and you know a little bit of a tongue-in-cheek it's like a love letter
00:44:57.120 to horror films and classic slasher movies and all of that and also like folkloric characters like
00:45:03.420 if you it's by Joss Whedon so if you grew up with Buffy you'll recognize a lot of the similar sort
00:45:09.160 of creatures and things that would have come up in the Buffy universe there is a final girl in
00:45:14.120 am I remembering that right there's a final girl in yeah there's the final girl who is not a virgin
00:45:19.960 and they were like well it's just symbolic she's not an actual virgin and the the geeky guy in the
00:45:26.540 final girl are the last two alive and they tell the final girl that she has to kill the geeky guy 0.99
00:45:32.400 she has to be the last one alive at the end of the world so they're just like fuck what we're 0.99
00:45:36.460 not playing your game and they just let the apocalypse happen and the old ones or ancient 0.98
00:45:40.840 ones who live in the earth's core or whatever come and destroy the world yeah and it's also
00:45:48.220 a subversion of the final girl trope in the way that she's not the only one to survive
00:45:52.180 she almost does kill her friend which is not something that a final girl would really do
00:45:57.580 like they sort of reserve their murder to villains and like people who they think are trying to kill
00:46:04.800 them even if it turns out that they didn't they weren't trying or that they were a red herring or
00:46:09.040 whatever it was and you also get the lovely cameo of the big bad in it is played by Sigourney Weaver
00:46:16.020 this is true so it's just a great little celebration of the trope and Josh Whedon wrote
00:46:22.100 alien resurrection and brought her back from the dead and we've still not forgiven him for it
00:46:26.220 yeah um i like recently because after we watched romulus in the cinema i went through
00:46:34.300 like i took a week and watched all of the alien films and yeah you can just see where it doesn't
00:46:39.140 fit in like alien 3 like unique setting interesting but then alien resurrection is just like
00:46:46.000 it just gets far too josh whedon terrible cheesy humor yeah and it also gives ripley as you said
00:46:54.300 plot armor but too much literal armor like she's not really human anymore she's like half alien
00:47:00.680 yeah she's no bush she's no bush she loses a lot of her humanity and the things that like
00:47:06.960 endeared you towards her because as you learn throughout the franchise ripley is going through
00:47:11.820 a lot of grief she missed out on time with her daughter watching her daughter grow up and then
00:47:17.620 she loses her substitute daughter in newt so a lot of that stuff it feels like it's just pushed
00:47:23.820 by the wayside so for the purposes of this alien resurrection i think maybe we won't include in
00:47:30.280 the final girl trope rundown right nah clones don't count clones don't count okay that can be
00:47:37.020 our tagline of this episode
00:47:39.260 really I thought it'd be like
00:47:41.240 full bush no bush
00:47:42.020 full bush no bush okay I'll let you
00:47:45.000 I'll let you decide before I upload it
00:47:47.420 final girl and then in brackets
00:47:49.400 full bush and then just a picture of 0.98
00:47:51.300 Sigourney Weaver's crotch 0.99
00:47:52.340 or Homer Simpson 0.98
00:47:55.600 coming out of the hedge
00:47:56.580 so in conclusion when we talk about
00:48:03.440 the final girl the one who makes it
00:48:05.480 to the end of the horror movie bloody and shaking but alive we're usually thinking about ripley or
00:48:10.540 laurie schrode or sydney prescott she's smart resourceful maybe a little bit overlooked at first
00:48:16.700 but she survives because she adapts because she refuses to give up but maybe the final girl didn't
00:48:22.740 start in the movies as i've shown you maybe she's been around for a lot longer maybe her name was
00:48:27.700 inanna because if you think about it inanna ticks all the boxes she walks straight into danger she
00:48:33.520 chooses to walk straight into danger she's stripped of everything that gives her power
00:48:37.900 she dies literally and still she comes back changed still herself but just a little bit
00:48:44.400 better and a little bit more heart and just like Ripley standing at the end of Alien Inanna doesn't
00:48:49.420 return soft or simple she comes back knowing more than she did before she's stronger sharper she's
00:48:55.780 been to the grip below and now she knows exactly what it takes to survive it so maybe the final
00:49:01.260 girl isn't just a modern trope maybe it's a mythological one and don't have sex you'll die
00:49:06.320 don't have sex you'll die um so yeah thanks for joining us and listening to our little rundown on
00:49:15.580 the final girl trope and why it's got its roots in Mesopotamian mythology Ewan do you have anything
00:49:22.500 that you want to plug or tell people about um no just you know thanks for listening
00:49:28.100 thanks for listening and um make sure to check out uh our other episodes that we have coming up
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00:50:07.080 anyway i've been neve i've been forced to do this i've been you and fuck yeah folklore goodbye 0.75
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