There Are No Girls on the Internet - April 30, 2021


DISINFORMED: The New York Post’s lie about Kamala Harris went viral. Here’s why we should all be angry.

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00:01:49.680 I'm Bridget Todd.
00:01:50.460 It brings me no pleasure to report that right-wing media keeps on giving us great examples of how
00:01:59.840 complete lies are created, spread, and mainstreamed online. And this time, it's about Vice President
00:02:05.440 Kamala Harris. The New York Post alleged that unaccompanied minors who crossed the border
00:02:10.440 were given copies of Harris's book as part of welcome kits. The story included a picture of
00:02:16.220 Harris's children's book called Superheroes Are Everywhere, alongside a backpack and hygiene items
00:02:21.340 on a cot at the Long Beach emergency intake site for unaccompanied minors. The story went viral,
00:02:27.680 and importantly, it wasn't just promoted by fringe right-wing conspiracy theorists.
00:02:31.760 It was shared by mainstream Republican figures and elected officials, like the official GOP
00:02:36.500 Twitter account, Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, and White House Republican whip Steve Scalise,
00:02:41.340 who tweeted,
00:02:42.880 Is Kamala Harris profiting off the border crisis?
00:02:45.680 Americans need to know.
00:02:47.420 The story was picked up and repeated by other big conservative news outlets
00:02:50.420 like Fox News and The Blaze.
00:02:52.500 Fox News White House correspondent Peter Doocy
00:02:54.580 even asked White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki about it in a press conference.
00:02:59.340 Every migrant child being brought to a shelter
00:03:02.180 is being given a copy of her children's book,
00:03:04.460 Superheroes Are Everywhere.
00:03:06.080 Do you know why that is and if she is making any money off of that? 0.98
00:03:09.760 You're talking about if they go to shelters or if they go to...
00:03:12.640 Yeah, in the welcome kit, apparently, there's a copy of her 2019 children's book, Superheroes Are Everywhere.
00:03:17.820 I'd have to certainly check on that.
00:03:20.040 Only, none of it was true.
00:03:22.780 The Washington Post confirmed that one copy of Harris' book that was donated, not included in, quote, welcome kits, that was in that now viral photo.
00:03:32.480 And that one photo was the basis for the entire fabrication that Harris' books were being included in welcome kits?
00:03:38.280 and the insinuation from Republican elected officials that Harris was personally making a profit from the situation at our border.
00:03:46.680 The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said in a statement to Newsweek
00:03:50.260 that the referenced book was one of an assortment of hundreds of titles donated to the Long Beach emergency intake site
00:03:55.680 as part of a City of Long Beach new books and toys drive.
00:03:59.360 No taxpayer dollars were used to purchase Vice President Harris's book.
00:04:03.180 Kevin Lee, chief public affairs officer for the city,
00:04:06.240 also clarified that the city had no involvement in the book's curation.
00:04:09.560 It was just donated as part of their book and toy drive.
00:04:12.420 The city of Long Beach, in partnership with the Long Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau,
00:04:16.400 had a citywide book and toy drive that is ongoing to support the migrant children, he said.
00:04:20.940 The single book you referenced is one of hundreds of various books that have already been donated.
00:04:25.400 The book was not purchased by HHS or the city.
00:04:29.580 Now, after the story was debunked, the reporter who wrote it, Laura Italiano, resigned, admitting that she'd been pressured into writing it, saying,
00:04:37.700 The Kamala Harris story, an incorrect story I was ordered to write and which I failed to push back hard enough against, was my breaking point.
00:04:45.460 Now, the New York Post has not even officially retracted the story.
00:04:49.420 Instead, they temporarily removed it from their site and then republished it with an editor's note at the bottom, saying,
00:04:55.800 the original version of this article said migrant kids were getting Harris's book in a welcome kit.
00:05:01.200 But that has been updated to note that only one known copy of the book was given to a child.
00:05:06.020 This is completely insufficient when you consider the lie is already out there.
00:05:10.180 And all of those prominent Republican figures I told you about earlier,
00:05:13.420 their tweets are still up on Twitter as of me recording this episode.
00:05:17.340 And here's why it's not really about this one lie.
00:05:20.960 The data is clear that women of color, especially Black women in politics,
00:05:24.640 face a disproportionate amount of disinformation,
00:05:27.640 especially lies and attacks that rely on negative stereotypes about our gender and race. 0.95
00:05:32.640 They paint us Black women as untrustworthy liars 0.97
00:05:34.960 and rely on unfair attacks on our identities to fuel those lies. 1.00
00:05:39.480 Even before Harris was named as Biden's running mate, 0.99
00:05:42.060 she was subjected to a flood of racist, sexist disinformation on social media, 0.96
00:05:45.700 like posts that made racist claims that she wasn't even eligible to serve in the White House
00:05:49.460 or that she was lying about her Black and Indian heritage.
00:05:53.100 Intelligent software service Zignal Labs found over 1 million mentions of Harris on Twitter since June 2020
00:05:59.300 that had hashtags or terms associated with misinformation about her. 0.53
00:06:03.980 Now compare that to her white male counterparts. 0.72
00:06:06.720 Misinformation accounted for less than 1% of Twitter talk when Mike Pence and Tim Kaine were running for vice president.
00:06:12.100 While misleading information about Harris is much more prevalent, making up more than 4% of the conversation about her on Twitter.
00:06:19.180 And it's not just Harris. 1.00
00:06:20.900 gendered disinformation campaigns are widespread for women in politics. 1.00
00:06:24.680 In her report for the Wilson Center, called Malign Creativity, 0.99
00:06:28.220 How Gender, Sex, and Lies Are Weaponized Against Women Online, 0.71
00:06:31.540 researcher Alexandra Pavlyak found that gendered abuse affected 12 of 13 research subjects,
00:06:37.960 while 9 out of 13 subjects were targeted with gendered disinformation narratives.
00:06:42.880 These narratives were racist, transphobic, and sexualized in nature.
00:06:47.520 The overwhelming majority of the recorded keywords relating to the abuse and disinformation
00:06:51.380 were identified on Twitter and directed toward Kamala Harris,
00:06:54.580 who accounted for 78% of the total recorded instances.
00:06:58.720 Her report also found that online abusers used evasive, tricky language like dog whistles,
00:07:03.860 where they don't come right out and say the racist or sexist thing
00:07:07.200 in order to avoid detection by social media moderation tools.
00:07:10.860 I'm talking about things like social media posts that refer to Kamala Harris as, quote, 0.87
00:07:15.120 heals up Harris, a sexist insinuation that she, quote, slept her way to the top, which is a common
00:07:21.260 sexist line of attacks that Harris faces online. And here's why this is such a big problem for all
00:07:26.220 of us, not just women. When attacks on women and women of color are allowed to fester and spread,
00:07:31.480 it has a chilling effect on women's participation in politics and political discourse. It keeps us 0.99
00:07:36.280 from running for office or even just speaking up about our political opinions online, because who
00:07:40.620 would want to volunteer to be attacked or become the target of a disinformation campaign just
00:07:44.700 because of who you are. It keeps our entire country from being able to have a democracy
00:07:48.880 where everyone, women, women of color, are able to fully participate. And this isn't
00:07:53.760 just a threat to women. It's a threat to all of us. Everyone is better served when
00:07:57.700 all of us can be fully involved in our democracy. If we're ever going to create an equal playing
00:08:02.480 field for the next generation of women in politics, we've got to create a digital 0.99
00:08:06.300 media landscape where racist, sexist attacks are not widespread and are just not tolerated. 0.98
00:08:11.540 Women, women of color, and black women
00:08:13.420 deserve to be judged by our records, actions, and words,
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