Lesbian bar drama on TikTok; BlueSky open for all; Creeps use AI to put clothes on women; Elon bankrolls Gina Carano’s Disney discrimination suit while simultaneously facing his own – NEWS ROUNDUP
00:04:31.940also the woman who made that first tiktok she was like oh there were other men there um you know
00:04:40.220like he wasn't the only man there and so part of me was like nobody was walking up to those people
00:04:44.560and being like you're straight what are you doing here how did someone like i just have a hard time
00:04:50.420believing that somebody just singled this guy out knew that he was straight walked up to him and was
00:04:56.640like what are you doing here i feel like something about his behavior something about what they were
00:05:00.340doing must have at least at the very at the very baseline have been obnoxious like in a small space
00:05:05.980yeah did you exactly did you did you see the follow-up from the the woman who was the lesbian
00:05:12.080in the video or that was being talked about she made a follow-up and she was like she was just
00:05:16.560kind of like yeah i was like trying to find the bet well i think she she was like trying to find
00:05:21.400the line for the bathroom and this dude was in the way and she asked him if he could like move
00:05:26.420or like i don't know like he just it sounds like apparently he was just acting sort of weird about
00:05:30.220it he was being sort of a dick about it um and she was kind of like oh well like are you here
00:05:34.780with anybody like are you here with friends and he immediately was like oh well would it would it0.66
00:05:39.120be okay would it not be okay if i wasn't here with anybody which like i don't what is up with
00:05:44.220straight people and like straight cis men specifically like making up fake scenarios
00:05:50.080where they're being attacked like literally nobody he was the one to be like oh it would
00:05:54.640it would be not okay i don't know yeah man i like weird um it was it was good at least to see how
00:06:05.800quickly i think people jumped to defend the uh supposed mean lesbian in the video and uh you
00:06:13.600know actually address the fact that a lot of the stuff that the original video said were like
00:06:19.200weirdly homophobic and even the out the comment about like oh there were all these like flamboyant
00:06:24.200gay men there yeah i was kind of side-eyeing that comment like um yeah i don't know and once again
00:06:35.360like it's a tiny bar it's a space for well this is the bigger issue and i think the reason this
00:06:42.040like really blew up and like resonated with a lot of a lot of people right now is because like
00:06:46.380there is a tiny number of like lesbian bars that are actually operating in the u.s i looked at only
00:06:53.02023 lesbian bars exist in the united states yeah and like you know this is in the west village
00:06:59.700which is like where stonewall is it's like was the big gay neighborhood for a while in new york
00:07:05.340now it really isn't anymore but um there's all these like really important historic gay bars
00:07:11.140and in terms of lesbian bars it's kind of just like henrietta's and cubbyhole and that's it
00:07:15.920And again, Cubbyhole is a tiny space that is like, the reason these bars exist is because, you know, queer people were excluded from, or, you know, the whole, the whole like cis straight woman argument is like, oh, well, I just feel more comfortable in like gay bars than I do in straight bars.
00:07:36.420but then it's like how do you think gay people feel like it is a whole other level yeah which
00:07:40.060it's so like these these spaces exist for a reason they exist because they're responding
00:07:47.020to the fact that queer people were excluded from straight spaces and it's so weird now to be seeing
00:07:51.720straight people be so up in arms about it like imagined scenario when they're being told they
00:07:57.620can't go into the spaces that were created because they excluded us from other spaces like it's weird0.83
00:08:04.820yeah it's basically like like you can't be in our space okay we'll make our own space0.87
00:08:11.040i want in that space right look i know like queer women are cool now like but0.96
00:08:19.880please like just give this is like we have so little that is just for i don't know and even1.00
00:08:27.440i don't know there was another tiktok i saw with the whole comment about like oh well there were
00:08:30.500all these gay men there that was like hey it's like weird how like what how do you know they're
00:08:34.580gay men. Also, it's like, yeah, it's a gay bar. There's gay men at the gay bar. There's gay women0.88
00:08:40.380that go to gay male bars. I don't know. There's just a different kind of attitude about gender0.81
00:08:46.980that straight people just do not even want to think about.
00:08:50.700What do you think? It has been a long time since I've seen something that was
00:08:54.780regional specific, like happening in one city, circulated in one bar, that got such a big
00:09:01.580reaction from people who like maybe have never even been to New York City have never been to
00:09:05.780that far do you think do you think it's the feeling of like feeling nationally like queer
00:09:11.880spaces are being pushed out and so this need to use online platforms to loudly like say that and
00:09:20.340to like there's like a chorus of people who are like actually this is really messed up here's why
00:09:24.480do you think that's what's going on and why it resonated so much yeah um I think it's like exactly
00:09:30.540that i think it's just you know whatever part of the country you're in you know either your
00:09:36.320rights are actively like being debated in your state government right now um or being taken away
00:09:45.000from you or yeah you're really if you're in a place like new york that's like supposed to be0.94
00:09:49.760more accepting but these queer spaces are becoming like few and far apart and uh there's been more
00:09:59.660and more sort of co-opting of those spaces by straight folks and i think you know i i think
00:10:06.860yeah it is like a big part of this is just that it's part of this bigger trend of like these
00:10:10.860spaces closing and and going away and then also the few spaces we have left straight people coming
00:10:18.000into them and only really coming in to sort of prove that they can be there which seems to be
00:10:23.240the biggest issue here like i don't know that's just the thing that gets me every time is it's
00:10:26.680this whole like this whole conflict a they kind of made it not made it up but it was like an
00:10:34.420imagined thing like nobody was telling him he couldn't be there and then also it's like but
00:10:39.600yeah why are you like so insistent on invading this bit which it's interesting like what somebody
00:10:44.760there was a one of the videos that i saw like responding to this was like talking about how1.00
00:10:49.640you know originally there was all these like straight women that were coming to
00:10:53.020gay bars because they were like you know quote unquote felt more safe there and then would0.85
00:10:59.560sometimes not all the times but like occasionally then you know act in a way that was making the
00:11:05.740gay patrons of the bar not feel safe and then also now what's happening is a lot of like
00:11:11.420straight cis men are coming into gay bars and are coming into gay male bars quote unquote or0.50
00:11:18.460like lesbian bars or whatever because they're following these like straight women that are0.88
00:11:21.800going there and now it's like yeah like i've had the experience of being hit on by cis straight men
00:11:28.260at a lesbian bar it is so infuriating it's like is there nowhere where like heterosexuality0.99
00:11:36.500doesn't have to be centered like it's a gay bar and the stupidest thing about it is like these1.00
00:11:41.840are the same people that then are going to come to that and be like oh well like do you how do you0.98
00:11:45.580do you know that i'm it's just people know that fear is like nobody who is not a cis man would1.00
00:11:52.560respond to that with like oh well like how did you know that i'm like i don't know it's so stupid0.96
00:11:56.960it's like it's this like self-victimization going into the space of the people that you're actually0.95
00:12:04.140oppressing or like you know have created these oppressive structures for yeah anyways yeah
00:12:12.000Clearly, I have a lot of feelings about this.
00:12:23.260I would also, yes and that, and add, I think there was something about that original woman's TikTok where it just sounded so smug and self-assured.0.78
00:12:37.600If I had gone out to any kind of space where someone came up to me and it became clear that I was doing something that was making them uncomfortable, I was making them feel some kind of a way, they didn't want me there, they were asking me questions about why I was there, I don't think after the fact I would make a video that was like, okay, so I made them uncomfortable.
00:12:57.600Like, you know what I'm saying? I was, I was surprised how, how comfortable she was taking the position of we've done nothing wrong. He did nothing wrong. It's actually this big mean lesbian who's done something wrong. That was really, I think there's something about that that just like gets under, it's just kind of gets under people's skin. And maybe that's one of the reasons why people are like, I gotta submit some facts for this woman.
00:13:25.300well it's I mean she's like doing her makeup in the video and look like look usually I am not for0.89
00:13:32.920like internet pylons people like whatever sometimes people do stupid things and make0.50
00:13:38.180mistakes in this case yeah and it's the like smugness of it and then she ended up like
00:13:43.060deleting it and making an apology video and then later deleted the apology video but in the apology
00:13:47.420video she's a still doing her makeup while she's doing that's her whole thing and she says it in
00:13:52.680the same tone where she's like I was just asking a like question like I don't understand you were
00:13:58.180not just asking a question like you cannot come in and like spew homophobic kind of tropes and0.60
00:14:04.640then expect people not to get mad about that you cannot go into a queer space and like yeah create
00:14:11.020like have that kind of response and then be surprised when people react negatively to you
00:14:16.120you know doing that yes and let's be real like there is a tone of voice like there is a way to
00:14:23.600convey seriousness via a tiktok doing your makeup and being like well i'm just asking questions
00:14:31.680everybody knows what you are trying to convey it is very clear what you're trying to convey
00:14:36.060i really don't like it when people make content like that and then they try to they try to like
00:14:42.100throw a rock then hide their hands it's like you clearly made this video you know don't try to act
00:14:49.340like you were just asking questions and you weren't trying to be disrespectful or smug now
00:14:53.100stay if that's how you feel that's how you feel it's like a there's this thing online that i see
00:14:57.480a lot where people will be trying to convey a certain tone or a certain smugness or a
00:15:02.760flippancy if that's a word i don't know check check that if that is or not i don't know but
00:15:07.220and then when they're called on it they're like oh that's just i wasn't i didn't mean it that way
00:15:11.940i feel like she meant it how she meant it it was received the way that it was intended and
00:15:18.100the fact that she had to delete her apology video as well i don't know i really it really
00:15:23.520tells me something right like that's not an apology i don't know i look i think straight0.87
00:15:30.000women straight white women like y'all can be just as homophobic as your straight boyfriends like1.00
00:15:36.840But anyways, I could go on about this for the whole episode. Bridget, I'm sure you've got1.00
00:15:44.280many more stories ahead. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Let's get into it.
00:15:51.080Let's start with Blue Sky. So Blue Sky, for folks who don't know, is a Twitter alternative
00:15:56.160funded by Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey. It used to be invite only. And there was a time where
00:16:02.500people would be like, oh, who has a Blue Sky invite? Like, who's got a code? Who's got a code?
00:16:06.360Well, good news, if you're interested in checking it out, Blue Sky is now available to everyone.
00:16:18.740So that means that there is more transparency into how it is run because it is open source.
00:16:24.600So TechCrunch had a piece that really put this into perspective.
00:16:28.100Before opening to the public, Blue Sky had about 3 million signups.
00:16:31.580Now that anybody can join, can Blue Sky meaningfully stand up to Threads' 130 million monthly active users or Mastodon's 1.8 million active users?
00:16:42.400It is a fair question. The answer is, I don't know, TBD.
00:16:46.300However, I don't know. I think it's kind of exciting.
00:16:49.960Like, on the one hand, I am definitely experiencing a kind of like fatigue slash exhaustion in our current digital media landscape where, you know, I just feel like you're meant to be everywhere.
00:17:07.340You're meant to be branding yourself everywhere if you want to do anything at all.
00:17:12.100And the, you know, the landscape keeps shifting beneath my feet.
00:17:16.400And so it's like, oh, here's how you succeed on Twitter.
00:17:18.900and then that changes. And then it's like, oh, here's how you succeed on Instagram. And then
00:17:22.540that changes. And I am feeling a little bit of fatigue of feeling like I have to show up
00:17:28.740everywhere and not really knowing how to do that and feeling like that is like tied to my success
00:17:33.420as a creative person. That's a whole other conversation. However, I don't know. I'm
00:17:37.680choosing to sort of be excited about Blue Sky opening up to everybody. I am really challenging
00:17:43.640myself to use Twitter less. I deleted it from my phone and that's really helped. I don't think
00:17:49.220that showing up on Twitter is good for me anymore. And so I'm excited about just having a new
00:17:56.660platform in the mix. Joey, have you ever used Blue Sky? I have not yet. I also kind of had
00:18:05.640the mentality of like, I don't know, like this was, yeah, it came out when there were all these
00:18:10.820like twitter knockoff platforms that were coming out and um i think i made a mastodon account i
00:18:17.300made a i made an account for one of them honestly i don't remember which app it was which i think is
00:18:22.700so telling of just like how much stuff was coming out then i like but yeah i think i'm also like i
00:18:29.380haven't really used my twitter much in the past couple months um kind of had switched over to
00:18:35.940like tiktok and and instagram with that but you know this is good to hear i feel like blue sky
00:18:41.420is one of the ones that i like heard about early on and i still hear about so maybe it's maybe it's
00:18:47.640taking off who's to say threads has been disappointing so you know i'm really trying
00:18:55.260i mean if folks are having experiences with new platforms let me know how those experiences are
00:19:00.600going. I've tried Threads. I've tried Spill. We had a senior leader from Spill on the podcast a
00:19:09.920few months ago. She was great. Really made me excited for the platform. My not using it a lot
00:19:15.640is not an indication that it's not a good platform. It's just like, again, that fatigue I was speaking
00:19:20.160to earlier. Mastodon, I tried. Producer Mike really enjoys Mastodon. Mastodon just doesn't
00:19:27.880feel weird enough for me i kind of need a little bit of like a little bit of freaky deaky in my0.98
00:19:33.100social media platforms i need to be like there are weirdos here doing weirdo shit that's what0.89
00:19:38.080i think makes is the secret sauce of social media platforms mastodon it's like smart people having0.82
00:19:44.160smart conversations but like no as far as i know nobody is like getting weird maybe that's there
00:19:50.320and i haven't seen it and i haven't really used it a ton so if it's there let me know threads i
00:19:54.920feel is similar yeah something about threads every time I open threads it is just people that I like
00:20:01.740like podcast people creative people people who make things journalists whatever media folks
00:20:06.220kind of bemoaning rightly so but bemoaning the state of media right now and I'm depressed as
00:20:13.640enough as it is it's like I don't like opening my social media platform and being reminded of all
00:20:18.820the stuff I'm not doing and need to be doing in the ways that I'm falling behind in like
00:20:23.080digitally marketing myself. And I think that on threads, I feel like the people who are really
00:20:29.020showing up and showing out on threads are the people who are like, I need to use this platform
00:20:35.040to grow my own brand, grow my platform, which I get and respect. But I don't know, part of why I
00:20:42.460use social media is just for fun, for shits and giggles. And something about thread just makes0.80
00:20:47.620me feel, just reminds me of all the ways that I'm not setting up the sub stack or not doing the
00:20:54.140things I should do. It's just a space where I think folks feel really concerned about, you know,
00:20:59.340using platforms for their own brand. Blue Sky, when I first got it, it was sort of like memes
00:21:07.140and jokes and people, like it kind of felt like the early days of social media, but I haven't
00:21:11.320really used it enough to really say what it's like now. Yeah, I, it'll be interesting to see
00:21:17.340what happens with it I feel like I've had
00:21:19.340yeah the same experience with Threads where
00:25:15.900Okay, so we talked before about how people are using AI to manipulate women's images to make them appear undressed.
00:25:22.640We talked about the Taylor Swift deepfakes.
00:25:25.060We've talked about deepfakes to make women look nude or look like they're in sexual situations.
00:25:30.920Well, now we have people who are using that same AI technology to add clothing to women who want to appear undressed in online images.
00:25:39.200And it really all boils down to the same thing. People using tech to take away someone's agency in terms of how they want to present themselves online. So Dignify AI is a social media account that has almost 30,000 followers where they use AI to put clothes on to women's images online and cover them up.
00:26:00.000So what the account will do will be like directly applying to women who post pictures of themselves in like bikinis or whatever, and they will post pictures of them in various stages of undress that these women have voluntarily put online next to images that they have used AI to manipulate and edited them to look more modest and covered up.
00:26:20.980They will usually have some kind of a mocking caption that's like, keep your dignity or here, I used AI to give you your dignity back.
00:26:29.340So in case someone is thinking like, oh, well, maybe they're doing this legitimately because they want to empower women somehow.
00:26:35.980Like, maybe they think like, oh, this is really like, I'm really like doing the right thing here.
00:26:43.820Media Matters reported that folks who were posting these kind of images were saying things like, quote,
00:26:50.780A.I. porn makes them angry, but use A.I. to clothe them, remove their tattoos and piercings.
00:26:57.260The seething will echo through the ages.0.96
00:27:00.040Media Matters reports that that same user then said that it would be memetic perfection and likened it to the 4chan campaigns Islam is right about women and it's OK to be white.
00:27:09.540so this is not done for any kind of like i mean even if even if these people were thinking like
00:27:15.740oh we're like supporting and empowering the women that would still be no good but these people are
00:27:21.080pretty clearly just trying to shame women who put their images out onto the internet yeah0.99
00:27:26.980that's so gross first of all second of all how big of a loser do you have to be to like1.00
00:27:34.560photoshop clothing back on to somebody like I don't know that's so stupid it is already so like1.00
00:27:40.520demeaning and I don't know it's the whole thing about yeah you you can't be anything if you're1.00
00:27:47.500a woman you can you're wearing too much clothes or too little clothes or whatever you're getting1.00
00:27:51.280your clothes photoshopped off you were on you but already yeah like damn you that's so weird1.00
00:27:58.640Yeah. And that's that like you really nailed it. It's like if you are modestly dressed online, they will use AI and technology to make you appear undressed. If you're like, OK, I want to be not really dressed online, they will use technology to make you appear more dressed.0.98
00:28:17.760it's like the point it doesn't matter how you show up online the point is they should be the0.98
00:28:22.620ones deciding how you show up online not you it's like like this whole thing about giving women
00:28:27.880dignity not only is that obviously meant to be a troll but it's not about that at all it is about
00:28:33.240control and humiliation and shame and using technology to strip the agency away from people
00:28:39.640like that's like clearly what it's about yeah like and just to be clear like what if yeah if
00:28:44.320that's if you find it empowering to be more modest or to dress more modest modestly like
00:28:48.880all power to you love that like women and people should be able to wear whatever they want you
00:28:55.000know like I'll support that idea um but yeah it is it's it's so it's so weird and like gross and
00:29:02.760it the the at the end of the day it's about being able to control women's bodies it's not about
00:29:09.280what's empowering to them or what's dignifying to them it's about you being able to say what
00:29:13.400they're wearing. Exactly. It is about taking away control and agency. Like if you want to dress
00:29:20.720modestly or not dress modestly, the point is it should be up to you, not a bunch of chuds on0.97
00:29:27.1004chan who are using AI to strip you of that choice. And I think it's telling that they're1.00
00:29:32.180not just putting clothes on them. They're removing their tattoos and piercings and changing their
00:29:36.820hair color. So obviously this is not just about how they choose to dress. It is how they choose
00:30:09.540So NBC talked to Isla David, a sex worker and sex educator, who is one of the women who somebody used AI to make her appear more modest.
00:30:19.240And she really nails the way this conversation is really not about sex.
00:30:23.760It is about using technology to humiliate and shame women.0.95
00:30:26.800She said, it does not matter whether you're a woman like Taylor Swift, who is denying access to her nude body or someone like me who is offering access to my nude body.
00:30:35.180It is a tool to ensure that women never retain sole autonomy over our body and images online.
00:30:41.140She also goes further to say that she thinks that these images really fit into the current
00:30:45.180trad wife social media trend and that these guys are using AI to turn her into this kind
00:30:51.340of fantasy, modest woman who is a traditional wife who dresses modestly and has kids around
00:30:59.680And they're using technology to sort of be like, oh, well, this is what she would look0.87
00:31:03.220like if she had made better choices. NBC spoke to Mike Stable, the director of public affairs
00:31:08.940for the Free Speech Coalition, which is an organization that lobbies on behalf of the
00:31:12.400adult industry, who said, this is about controlling representations of women in society.
00:31:17.540It's that ultimately women cannot be trusted to make their own decisions about whether to take1.00
00:31:21.340off their clothes, get tattoos or put on clothes. It's infantilization. And ultimately, these men,1.00
00:31:26.440by and large, are going to make the decision. If you don't want to do it, at least in their world,
00:31:30.620They're going to change that. And I do think that this is sort of grounded in this attitude that women are not capable of or do not deserve control over our bodies and the decisions that we make for ourselves.0.71
00:31:44.160And so, you know, all of that is to say, we have been talking a lot about deepfakes and AI and the intersections of identity. But ultimately, AI and deepfakes is a tool. What this is really about is this pervasive attitude that marginalized people, we don't deserve to control our own choices and our own bodies, and the way that this technology is being used to further that attitude.0.80
00:32:09.600yeah absolutely it is it's it's so like weird and gross I don't know I'm so stuck at it there's
00:32:16.780something so particularly I hate I hate that he that late earlier you mentioned that one of them
00:32:23.180like in this 4chan thread said something about like oh people are more mad about you removing
00:32:27.760the tattoos and making them more modest than they are about leaking their nudes but in a weird way
00:32:32.520it almost is kind of like it's not gross or obviously like leaking or like fake nudes or
00:32:37.180like that's terrible that's gross but it's like it's so weird to be putting to yeah like to be
00:32:42.940not just like hyper sexualizing somebody but putting them into this mold of who you think
00:32:48.840they should be based on like gendered expectations and like yeah there is this weird like we're in
00:32:55.760such a weird moment right now too which I was just on Stuff Mom Never Told You talking about0.80
00:33:01.840some of the sort of like trends on TikTok right now around girlhood and like womanhood but we're
00:33:06.660in such a weird point where there has been a really really strong like kind of resurgence
00:33:12.220to like in resurgence of like pressure to to go into these very gendered very highly gendered
00:33:19.040molds and very you know particularly for women like there's this this this return of like the1.00
00:33:24.860trad wife is kind of it's you know everybody obviously like kind of knows the trad wife is
00:33:30.400like the most extreme but there's been all these weird sort of pressures for women to like
00:33:34.060become more feminine and and present more feminine and it just this just feels like another
00:33:39.640manifestation of that that's so weird and creepy and demeaning and
00:33:44.380not not great for like the future to come I guess yeah and if if you there is nothing wrong with
00:33:54.080being a girly girl I don't necessarily consider myself a girly girl but like if that's what you
00:33:58.740want to do you should do that and that's I like yes however I do think that you're right there
00:34:04.860is something I think that we're experiencing something that's like if you are like obviously
00:34:09.920it's better if you don't have tattoos have your natural hair color are modestly dressed have kids
00:34:15.300around you and even if that's even if that's not the choice that you have made for yourself in your
00:34:19.700life someone out there is going to use technology to give the world a window into what it would
00:34:26.000look like if you had made this choice that we all know was better you know and i do think there's
00:34:30.740like we're just i don't know i i can't wait to listen to your episode on stuff mom never told
00:34:34.920you um because there is i do think there's something going on with feminine like hyper
00:34:42.620feminine accessories and bows and like i don't know something i think we're in an interesting
00:34:47.640moment and i i can't wait to hear your takes on stuff mom never told you thank you i have been
00:34:52.800there is a point in the episode where i try to explain what coquette is to i really badly try to
00:34:57.160explain what coquette is to samantha but i definitely kind of go back on to a whole episode
00:35:00.840about coquette because it's the same like all if that is what like the kind of aesthetics and like
00:35:05.220fashion you're into love that for you like a lot of that stuff is really cool and really cute
00:35:09.260that being said whatever it's a like pressure to put this on to other people i am not a feminine
00:35:16.120person at all that is just not a way that i'm comfortable presenting if somebody were to take
00:35:20.420a photo of me and like photoshop my hair longer and like a dress up like that's gross that is so
00:35:27.020weird and gross and yeah it's just everything is weird there's gender is weird gender is weird
00:35:33.220i think we should just not police each other's genders that would be really nice
00:35:37.620yeah yeah and certainly not policing it via ai deep fakes of strangers because that's just
00:35:45.400weird let's let's not do it stop doing that it's gross it's weird it's not the like
00:35:50.420epic troll you think it is it just makes you look really weird so if you're like yeah0.58
00:35:55.320not that anybody who does that is listening this is like the male version of like oh my god like0.60
00:35:59.960i could save her i could fix her i can remove her tattoos using ai
00:38:47.180I got to eat crow on this one because people who listen to this show regularly know that whenever there is a financial promise being made from Elon Musk, I'm always like, he's not going to do it.
00:38:58.960But apparently, he is making good on that promise because he is funding Gina's lawsuit against Disney from after she was fired from The Mandalorian.
00:39:19.780There are, yeah, I mean, there are plenty of people who have been, who have been, like, let go from their jobs for speaking up for Palestine or, like, I would be curious to know where this begins and ends with Elon Musk.
00:39:33.780Like you, Joey, I suspect that he might do it this one time and then make a big show of this if he pays.
00:39:52.180However, I bet that this will not be a recurring thing, that he will not take up the cause of anybody who faces repercussions for what they post on Twitter.
00:40:01.740So, did you watch The Mandalorian at all?
00:40:45.160I mean, I joke, but I literally had to like, going back to that mentally, I was like, oh, yeah, that did happen. Oh, yeah, that did happen. Like, in a lot of ways, I feel like I've blocked a lot of that out. And so, yes.
00:40:58.640And so this was back when like people were acting like being asked to wear a mask was the biggest civil rights violation of our time.
00:41:07.200And so I think she had a tweet where I guess she was comparing like people who didn't want to wear masks to Jewish people during the Holocaust.
00:41:14.580She tweeted, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews.
00:41:24.480How is it any different from hating someone for their political views?
00:41:27.520So that was a tweet. This one I think is pretty funny. She tweeted a picture of two men wearing masks over their eyes with the caption, Democratic government leaders now recommend we all wear blindfolds along with masks so we can't see what's really going on.
00:41:45.880i gotta say when i was like 18 i might i might i might have snuck a retweet on that one like that
00:41:52.340that would have spoken to young me like yeah they don't want us to see the truth they want us in
00:41:57.140blindfolds and then i would draw an anarchy symbol on my notebook oh my god
00:42:02.840do you know what i mean there's something very like that's the the most the i've met one of many
00:42:10.840annoying horrible things about this is like sometimes these like weirdo right-wing people0.98
00:42:15.160will say stuff that it's like oh that was kind of funny like goddamn like you're crazy but that's0.92
00:42:22.440all right i completely agree like oh i'll say oh this is like y'all know i have my problematic0.89
00:42:30.180faves whoever was the first person to come up with shillery kilton and then the s is a dollar sign
00:42:37.520i'm gonna give it to you on that one i was like that one that's it's it's not like i
00:42:43.160like no but like i it was clever i see what you did there like sometimes they sometimes they come
00:42:49.920up with these turns of phrases and some are better than others because i remember in 2008 it was
00:42:56.220oh bummer and i was like oh that one you could have like workshopped that one a little better
00:43:00.260like that didn't have the yeah like thanks obama that was a good one like yeah just respond with
00:43:07.560like, thanks, Obama. Thanks, Obama. Yeah, sometimes, you know, when you're right,
00:43:13.160that doesn't hit. Yeah, that one didn't hit. I'm gonna give that a two out of 10 on that one.
00:43:20.640So she was really not into the time in 2020 when there was restrictions on people gathering.
00:43:25.620She tweeted, open up your businesses and churches because people are dropping like flies from
00:43:29.680depression and suicide, overdoses, murder, all caps. Her tweets about the 2020 election are
00:43:36.000very interesting to me. She tweeted, we need to clean up the election process so that we're not
00:43:40.600left feeling the way we do today. Put laws in place that protect us against voter fraud.0.99
00:43:45.060Investigate every state. Film the counting. Flush out fake votes. Require ID. Make voter fraud end
00:43:51.460in 2020. Fix the system. So that might all sound reasonable on the surface, but we saw so much of
00:44:00.280that sentiment after the election because like you had people like Ivanka Trump being like, oh,
00:44:05.220count every legal vote, which again, sounds reasonable, but it gives the impression
00:44:10.040as if there is widespread voter fraud and voting irregularities, which just is not happening. It's
00:44:15.720never happened. It's not a thing. But when you say like, I just think we should count every legal
00:44:20.240vote. I just think that we should make sure that, you know, we're not counting fake votes.
00:44:25.380It really, it's like a tricky way of sowing distrust in our voting process because that's
00:44:33.320like not, there aren't widespread voting irregularities. And so when you adopt this
00:44:37.480language that makes it seem like there are, it's a very sly way of just kind of like chipping away
00:44:43.940at people's confidence in our democratic process. So this last one is also really interesting to
00:44:49.700me. She tweeted, I'm not against trans lives at all. They need to find less abusive representation.
00:44:54.820And so when she tweeted that, there was some back and forth on Twitter where basically it
00:44:59.060seemed like what she was saying was like i don't have a problem with trans people no no no i'm not
00:45:03.840i'm not a transphobe i just think their spokespeople are very mean like that seemed to be
00:45:08.220like what she was trying to get at wait see these we're finally addressing the real problems in this0.99
00:45:14.720episode it's the mean trans people and the mean lesbians that are kicking the straight people out0.97
00:45:19.240of lesbian bars and star wars very mean very rude did not care for your tone yeah i remember like0.97
00:45:28.500all of this going down because yeah i think like at the time the mandalorian was still like a really
00:45:32.740big show and i remember all this going down and it was like one thing after another it was like
00:45:38.620like come on like you're also like you're so i don't know yeah yeah it was it was like what are0.55
00:45:46.060the most despicable but also just like stupid takes i can take yeah so i actually think that
00:45:52.000that's exactly what happened here like i have no inside information from disney or lucas films or0.95
00:45:57.840whatever but i bet that when you are a very much a supporting actor in a piece i bet that they were
00:46:06.100just like this is not worth the headache after a while like thing after thing after thing after
00:46:10.140thing i can imagine they're just like we gotta get rid of this person because they are just like
00:46:16.160going rogue on twitter and we can't have it like i could see if it was just one or two tweets but
00:46:22.440Like, I can understand why this was not something Disney was thrilled about getting brought into or mired into and was just like, oh, it's easier just to just to not recast her.
00:46:31.820So according to The Hollywood Reporter, the complaint that she filed in a California federal court alleges that she was fired for voicing right wing opinions on social media and seeks a court order that would force Lucasfilms to recast her in The Mandalorian.
00:46:45.120According to the complaint, Disney and Lucasfilms harassed and defamed her for refusing to conform with their viewpoints on issues relating to Black Lives Matter, pronouns, and disproven claims of election interference.
00:46:57.940While she was allegedly fired for her cultural and religious beliefs, she argues that the entertainment giant turned a blind eye to her male co-stars, who allegedly made offensive comments directed toward Republicans.
00:47:08.560She points to Pedro Pascal's 2017 post comparing Donald Trump to Hitler.
00:47:13.660So when she says that she has a gender discrimination complaint, she's saying that, like, oh, they did this because I was a woman.
00:47:19.820Pedro Pascal can compare Trump to Hitler.
00:47:22.600But I can't, like, say my conspiracy theories without being fired.
00:47:29.400I will say the suit does kind of make it seem like Disney gave her a few outs.
00:47:34.440The suit says that Disney required her to meet with a representative from the Gay and Lesbian Alliance against discrimination and demanded a public apology.
00:47:41.220She refused, and after she refused, she was told to meet with Lucasfilm's president, Kathleen Kennedy, and 45 employees who identify as LGBTQ+, according to the suit.
00:47:51.580She declined and was terminated shortly thereafter from The Mandalorian, as well as other titles in the Star Wars universe, including Rangers of the New Republic.
00:47:59.480So it kind of sounds like that tweet that she made about trans people needing better representation or whatever, it sounds like maybe that was like a real sticking point with Disney because they were like, oh, you need to meet with GLAAD, you need to meet with LGBTQ folks.