00:04:49.940Yeah, yeah, it is. It is. And that's what today's episode is about. It's about billionaires and actually multi-millionaires, just rich, rich people, mostly dudes, their obsession with living forever, with extending their life, with never dying. This is a thing. This is a thing that billionaires, yet another thing that billionaires are obsessed with.
00:13:48.280It's good that we have that word. It's good. Okay, so he made a lot of money selling Braintree. But despite how successful he was financially, he was very depressed. He was unhappy in his life. He had three kids. He was unhappy in his marriage. He says that he was something like 50 pounds overweight and really miserable.
00:14:09.820so he goes through a lot of therapy he gets divorced and then he begins his quest to reverse
00:14:17.980his biological age mm-hmm yeah okay all right so i mean what i'm hearing is like classic midlife
00:14:26.500crisis situation classic classic midlife crisis and i think we should take a quick break here
00:14:35.040and then we'll talk a little bit more about all of the things that brian johnson is doing
00:28:55.900yes for dessert he has something that he calls nutty pudding which is just browned up which is
00:29:04.880just ground up nuts and plant-based milk and pomegranate juice and he he tops it with chia
00:29:11.260seeds and berries. And he says in a video where he shows himself making this, that the saddest
00:29:17.900moment of his day is his last bite of nutty pudding. At 11 a.m. At 11 a.m. Wow. At 11 a.m.
00:29:33.620And, you know, he just, like most of the billionaires and centimillionaires that we've talked about on this podcast, they all speak in this grandiose language that, well, this isn't about me.
00:31:04.120And, you know, that's not that's also not the only criticism of what he's doing.
00:31:09.720A lot of people are worried that if the rich are able to live longer slash forever, they're just going to get richer.
00:31:18.260like compounding the already very imbalanced world of money that we live in because we know
00:31:25.980that money makes more money and so these people if they can live longer than other people will
00:31:33.320only get more and more exponentially richer and exponentially more powerful let's take another
00:31:40.800break here and okay when we get back we're going to talk about how brian johnson is very much not
00:31:47.800alone. We'll be right back. So, Joe, we're back. Yeah. One thing that I actually think leads into
00:32:13.360what what you want to talk about next that I've been thinking a lot about when it comes to like
00:32:18.160living longer and living forever is like all your friends and family will die
00:32:22.860like maybe not your kids but like all of your peers will die before you yeah you will be alone
00:32:30.920I mean my you know my grandparents lived into their 90s they didn't live you know they didn't
00:32:36.000live like obscenely long like they didn't live till over 100 but like my grandfather died at
00:32:40.880I think he was 90 he was 96 like that's pretty old and like his wife was dead all of his friends
00:32:50.300were dead he he moved into a nursing home that he was like pretty content at and had like made
00:32:56.880some new friends but like everyone he knew was gone was all of all of the all of the relatives
00:33:04.860of his that you know all his cousins that he had grown up with like all of those people were gone
00:33:09.980And it's like, at some point, it just, it feels very lonely. And so it kind of actually like reminds me a little bit of what we talked about last week with these billionaires that just want to like live out the apocalypse in their bunkers, like with, you know, 20 other people.
00:33:30.700and it just feels like both of these scenarios like your world become like you're you're
00:33:38.220you're preparing for your world to become very small yes yes uh and I think
00:33:46.980I think you have to already be a very lonely person to be able to embrace this future and
00:33:58.140And he's talked about it. You know, he doesn't seem concerned with watching everyone around him no longer be around him. He seems to think it is likely inevitable.
00:34:13.660and I don't think that he is a person who necessarily craves human connection and he
00:34:21.480said that when he was talking about the fact that it's so hard for him to date I love this part
00:34:28.420because he's like there's 10 reasons why women will literally hate me we have to eat dinner at
00:34:32.92011 30 we can't go on sunny vacations we're in bed by 8 30 no small talk also always sleeping alone
00:34:40.880i don't want to live this life is yeah thing no i don't want to live this life either i don't want
00:34:48.880to live this life either i just like this is this is not the future that i want and it actually has
00:34:54.120nothing to do with you know oh my gosh you have to give up the pizza or the coffee or the margaritas
00:35:01.200it's more exactly what you said that it just seems really lonely and from everything that i read
00:35:09.200about johnson he doesn't seem to care loneliness does not seem to concern him from my point of
00:35:16.920view maybe maybe i shouldn't judge i'm not laying i'm not judging that i'm just saying like to me
00:35:22.740that feels like a sad life but maybe to him that doesn't feel like a sad life well he also seems
00:35:28.700convinced as many of of these these techie techie billionaires seem convinced that ai is the future
00:35:36.120and that for humans to continue to live simultaneously with AI,
00:35:40.780we have to evolve ourselves in this way.
00:35:42.900So he's not necessarily thinking about the future the way we think about the future.
00:35:46.500He's thinking about the future where, you know, the Terminator movies, right?
00:35:51.680Where we're living side by side with emotionless machines.