Unlearn16: Class is in Session - April 22, 2025


The One Where Arlene Dickinson Gives The Lesson

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00:00:00.000 class is in session hey everybody and welcome to unlearn 16 class is in session today i've been
00:00:10.240 blessed once again to have arlene dickinson in the house wait are you all the way on the east
00:00:16.240 coast right now i'm all the way on the west coast right now west coast all the way on the west coast
00:00:21.840 how beautiful in vancouver today um enjoying the absolutely beautiful weather it went for a great
00:00:28.560 walk and it's so pretty down by the seawall. And I, yeah, it's a, it's a beautiful city when it's
00:00:33.720 not raining. It wasn't raining today. You've got to catch it on those four days. I want to come
00:00:38.640 out. Actually, I, I'm planning on coming out. I haven't booked it yet, but I want to do the
00:00:43.660 kayaking with orcas. That's my thing. Oh yeah. You'd love it, Joanna. Like it's beautiful out
00:00:48.440 here. I mean, I, I've been, you know, being from Alberta, BC was my, Vancouver was literally my
00:00:54.360 second home as a you know young kid growing up and as an adult you know like we would drive the
00:00:59.480 nine and a half ten hours from calgary to vancouver and spend the weekend um you know this was in a
00:01:05.560 an old relationship of mine um who the guy was like a super like loved cars loved driving and
00:01:11.900 we would drive everywhere and he actually i actually remember him quite fondly because we
00:01:16.500 had some great road trips although he was really bad because i would fall asleep inevitably in the
00:01:22.400 car, you know, the car would be driving along and I would get, I would fall asleep. And then he
00:01:25.960 would think it was really funny if he slammed on the brakes and pretended that he was about to hit
00:01:29.720 some, scared that. That might be one of those red flags people talk about. So that part I didn't like,
00:01:36.100 but the rest of it, I really enjoyed. And coming to Vancouver was something we did a lot. So
00:01:41.340 yeah, I really love it out here. And thank goodness for the rain, because that's what
00:01:45.460 keeps us so green. So. Absolutely. I, well, it's funny because my very first year of university,
00:01:51.200 I decided I wanted to be a marine biologist because I saw Free Willy, true story.
00:01:55.900 So I was going to Simon Fraser and my mom wanted to drive me out rather than fly me out.
00:02:02.280 She's like, I want to drive from Ontario.
00:02:03.860 I want to drive you to university.
00:02:05.700 And my grandma was going to come.
00:02:07.600 So the three of us get in the car and we're in Ontario for like 37 days because getting
00:02:12.820 out of Ontario is just such a long, arduous drive.
00:02:18.280 And at some point I got the flu.
00:02:20.480 And now I didn't really know. It wasn't horrible. I just felt gross all the time. I didn't want to eat. I was kind of ornery. And my mom thought I was just being a typical teenager and I was complaining. Meanwhile, I felt horrible. And then by the time we got to the mountains in Alberta, and you know what that feeling's like when you're going up a mountain, it's like your car revs really high because it has to get up and then you're turning around a corner.
00:02:44.360 you can't quite see around the corner you can just see the edge of the world um yeah so it we
00:02:50.080 fought all the way there arlene well yeah i mean road trips are great when they're when they're
00:02:55.780 great but the the driving through the rockies is is still i think not i think it is literally my
00:03:03.040 favorite thing to do in this country like it is it's so spectacular to the the majesty of the
00:03:09.400 valleys and the rivers and the mountains and you it's just really quite something to to see i mean
00:03:16.640 i love the prairies i love you know the the obviously the oceans and the coast but there's
00:03:21.820 something about driving through the rockies that's uh maybe it's because i've done it since i was a
00:03:26.060 little kid and you know we used to go to bat time so maybe that's it it's nostalgic more than
00:03:31.240 anything but i do love it it is a little scary some of those scary yeah scary yeah are you a
00:03:37.360 big outdoors person like do you like to camp do you like to like do those things um I'm not so
00:03:43.220 much of a camper I know we camped when I was younger because we you know couldn't afford
00:03:46.580 hotels and so I think um you know camping we had a tent trailer when I was a little kid and that
00:03:53.020 was something else with the you know the five of us in a little tiny tent trailer um and then you
00:03:58.220 know tents when my kids were young because again that's you know what their dad liked to do was
00:04:02.740 tent um i i'm more of a four seasons camping girl i gotta admit i'm i'm very i am a little bit when
00:04:12.100 i travel i really do like uh you know and i mean i've worked hard to to be able to do that but
00:04:19.800 i don't really love camping i don't really love love it no listen i don't want to make my own
00:04:27.240 food on vacation i sure as heck don't want to find a piece of the woods to go to the bathroom in
00:04:33.800 yeah no or an outhouse or whatever yeah but some people i mean my kids like it you know like not
00:04:39.560 all of them but most of them like it and and uh you know like listen it's it's uh you either like
00:04:44.600 it or you don't and i for me no it's not my job people are like yeah but you leave like your phone
00:04:51.480 and your computer whatever every once in a while arlene i leave it in the car that seems like
00:04:56.120 enough of a distance I feel like I have been like way too tethered to my phone
00:05:05.240 and and just trying to keep up with everything and I think we're all
00:05:09.180 feeling that there's just this overwhelming it's not that you're afraid
00:05:13.100 that you're missing out it's not FOMO it's no it's it's fear of not knowing
00:05:19.040 what's happening so you can take action and so that you understand what the
00:05:23.280 implications are and so there's this what has he done now what's going on today like what do i need
00:05:28.660 to understand and so you do spend i i spend and i'm you know i'm posting quite a bit about what's
00:05:33.880 happening in the world and so i'm trying to keep up with it and you know one day you think you
00:05:38.340 understand it the next day it's something completely different it's it's so you are i'm
00:05:42.700 finding that's harming me in terms of my my um my attention span what were we talking about again
00:05:50.960 Oh, sorry. Can I click? Can I swipe? Can I just keep going through this till the next,
00:06:01.080 like anything longer than 15 seconds? You kind of go, I can't keep up with it. It's crazy.
00:06:05.920 Crazy. I mean, let's jump into the, I want to have a bit of fun today. I want to talk about
00:06:10.160 a little bit of politics, a little bit of fun. I just want to, you know, it's a Sunday night.
00:06:14.780 We can just have a bit of a good time. And I want to talk a little bit about what's going on with
00:06:18.440 China right now. I want to talk about it. I'm trying not to hard to laugh because I wish this
00:06:23.180 weren't had, let me preface this all by saying, I wish that Trump, it wasn't who he is. I wish he
00:06:29.520 didn't set up all these sort of, you know, trade fights and trade wars in order for him to prove
00:06:36.860 whatever waning masculinity he doesn't have. I wish that it wasn't hurting all of these millions
00:06:42.940 of people, obviously in Canada, all the way around the world. They come up, they come down,
00:06:48.200 there whatever but the boy has really stepped into it with china right yeah so yeah yeah china
00:06:56.860 is not gonna back down china basically said okay we matched your tariffs once and now we're just
00:07:03.380 not going to play your game anymore and we are just quite fine i mean yes you represent 15 percent
00:07:09.340 of you know kind of our trade but we don't care i i i can't uh was i don't know if it was their
00:07:15.940 prime minister or who said it but yeah well is your minister of finance i yeah i remember that
00:07:21.860 he said you know we've been here for 5 000 years some of that time the u.s was around
00:07:28.180 we're going to be here for 5 000 more because that is how you know i think asian um nations
00:07:34.260 in general tend to think a hundred years two hundred years out they don't think about tomorrow
00:07:39.140 they don't think about right now they think about the long-term you know play and so they're not
00:07:45.140 they're unafraid of it. And listen, I never thought I'd say this because we have challenges
00:07:51.860 with the human rights, what goes on in China and other countries. But having said that, I do respect
00:07:59.940 what they're doing here. I think they're doing the right thing for the world, frankly, by standing up
00:08:04.420 to them. Yeah. And I think the world is thankful. I think there's a couple of things here. And number
00:08:10.260 one, we condemn human rights in China, which 100% we should. Meanwhile, a father and a landed 1.00
00:08:18.300 immigrant and somebody with every right to be in the United States has just been sent to an El 1.00
00:08:23.240 Salvadorian prison and nobody can get them back or nobody wants to get them back. 0.99
00:08:27.620 And they're getting those and they're putting them in. Sorry to interrupt you. Yeah, I guess
00:08:31.900 we both get excited about it. But yeah, and they're putting people in basically concentration
00:08:37.580 type camps, you know, where they're, you know, putting kids and families into holding areas where,
00:08:42.660 you know, they are kind of being then deported. And, you know, that scene of, I don't even want
00:08:49.060 to say her name, where she stood in front of all of the, in El Salvador, where she stood in front
00:08:54.540 of the prison. Like, what is that? That is just like, impossibly ridiculous. So you're right.
00:09:01.860 You know, human rights is something we have to fight for everywhere. And we can't just
00:09:06.020 excuse what happens in the US or Canada or any nation, you know, if it's wrong.
00:09:12.680 Yeah, absolutely. So what I'm thinking about, when you said China's been around for 5,000 years,
00:09:18.640 they'll be around for a long time. The interesting part of the Chinese government, and I always
00:09:25.900 hesitate to say communist, because they keep calling themselves communist, but they're in the
00:09:31.360 WTO, and they're very strong capitalists. So I kind of feel as though their moniker might not
00:09:40.280 be the perfect label. But the interesting part about that type of government, however you want
00:09:46.460 to frame it, because it sure as heck not communist anymore. It might not be US forum capitalism,
00:09:53.600 but it's something else. But what's interesting is that they plan for the next 50 years,
00:09:59.520 because they're not worried about an election in two years, right? They're not worried about
00:10:06.920 necessarily an overturning. They understand that there's a plan for China and there's a plan for
00:10:12.660 the country to progress. And I'm a little envious, even though I obviously want as much democracy in
00:10:19.600 every country as we possibly can have, but I'm a little envious because that's the only way
00:10:24.460 problems for example like environmental issues get solved right you have to plan for the next
00:10:30.620 50 years you have to have a level of consistency i mean you know that's that's a really interesting
00:10:38.700 thing to delve into because you know we tend to like i you hear in in our politics people are
00:10:45.180 saying you know like it was like the last decade the last 20 years the last 30 years a lot you know
00:10:50.300 we we have done these things wrong and we tend to only think in the immediate and we think that
00:10:55.420 things can be fixed immediately and they can't these are big problems we're trying to sell
00:10:59.260 and we've been trying to solve them forever whether it's trade you know like exchange you
00:11:04.700 know getting growing our trade relationships whether it's um our energy and how we're going
00:11:09.100 to secure our energy whether it's our health care systems or education systems um you know
00:11:14.780 productivity issues these are these are platform issues that have been around forever they they are
00:11:19.740 not going to change and the reason they've been around forever is that's actually what matters to
00:11:23.340 the country and and your point on you know um you know whether it's china or other asian east asian
00:11:30.300 and other asian countries um they do think about the complexity and the time these things take and
00:11:38.140 they are prepared as a people to do what's necessary now what i don't like about no election
00:11:44.780 and and the fact that you know is that you can't say that they're going to do the right thing you
00:11:48.780 You don't have any say, you know, if they don't do the right thing, oh, well, too bad.
00:11:52.840 You're stuck with them.
00:11:54.200 So and I think I worry a little bit about that being what's going to happen in the U.S., frankly, that there won't be another.
00:12:00.700 You know, like now, whether that will create a civil war, whether, you know, people will rebel if there is and isn't another election.
00:12:07.300 I mean, he's he's currently dismantling the legal ability to fight him legally, the ability to, you know, change, you know, how everything.
00:12:16.700 He's changing every aspect of anybody who could argue with him in terms of changing the election cycle.
00:12:25.040 So we'll see what happens. We'll see.
00:12:27.700 Recently, I've been reading about a lot of threats that are being made to law firms.
00:12:33.720 You and I were speaking about this, and then I read a whole bunch about it, about individual and powerful law firms, how they are literally getting coerced and threatened.
00:12:43.700 And then you start to, again, I'm not advocating for less democracy. I am simply stating when guys like Trump and this administration are pointing to China and saying there's no freedom, there's no democracy, and meanwhile, their sole job is just chipping away, I find it to be an awful lot of projection.
00:13:06.820 Look over there.
00:13:07.920 They're doing horrible things.
00:13:09.180 But meanwhile, they're like, how do we do more of that?
00:13:12.040 That's what I want to do.
00:13:14.120 Yeah, it does feel like what's bubbling up now with the scope of the tariffs that he's
00:13:21.280 put on China is that he is creating a global tension with China that is going to be interesting.
00:13:31.920 Nations like Europe and Canada and other nations are going to have to, countries and nations, sorry, are going to have to figure out how they are going to do trade if the U.S. continues to be an unreliable partner.
00:13:51.620 And that means who are we going to be partners with and who can we trust?
00:13:56.320 and you know you're you're just seeing i just think you're just seeing 0.90
00:14:00.780 i think china's being very smart calling jd vance calling them peasants i'm sorry
00:14:07.840 and they they did come from peasants and canada's you know we like we've all come
00:14:16.020 like we're either pioneers or you know like honestly it's just it's it's it's crazily
00:14:22.980 disrespectful and what i ever set foot out of the united states except for his trip to greenland
00:14:29.220 that was unwelcome i don't know speaking about him they went they both went to yale and he he
00:14:35.780 was really really pointed and he said listen i just think it's time for jd to go back to school
00:14:43.700 because he didn't do it well enough the first time around like he he just needs a little bit of an
00:14:48.420 education. And I thought that, you know, was probably, you know, it's like one of my lines.
00:14:54.320 I'm like, that was well played. And meanwhile, this, it's the foundation of the party. I don't
00:15:02.920 want to say party, but the foundation of this movement that is driven by racism and driven by
00:15:09.140 bigotry and driven by a level of American exceptionalism and superiority, whether that's
00:15:16.100 simply just white or whether that's American. And to bolster that, you need to constantly talk down 0.79
00:15:23.160 to everybody else. But China, right in this moment, and I have no doubt, is going to slap 0.98
00:15:31.440 them so hard, I think the foundations of their capitalistic prowess are going to be shaken. 0.79
00:15:39.160 Maybe. I mean, the US is an imperial nation. They don't maybe go and say that, but I think they are.
00:15:45.540 absolutely and and so you know like and and the world economy has been tied so much to the their
00:15:53.660 dollar that act that you know there's some common sense in what they're doing to try and you know
00:15:59.640 unlock themselves from the pressure of that and from the cost of that and i do understand
00:16:05.360 can you explain that to everybody that's when you say there there's a pressure lock to that
00:16:11.800 Well, like when you think about the American dollar being a certain cost, I mean, it's tied.
00:16:17.400 It's very it's it's complex.
00:16:19.080 I don't I'm not an economist, so I don't know if I can do it justice to talk about kind of all of the complexities of it.
00:16:25.600 But, you know, the interest rate that is paid on the Treasury bills, the the the way that everybody borrows from each other and the way that they support the economy, support each other's debt in a in a very complex manner, bonds, etc.
00:16:41.000 This is all tied to right now and globally, the U.S. dollar is what kind of is the metric that a lot of the world economy tends to trade or not all the world economy, but a lot of the world economy.
00:16:53.920 Right.
00:16:54.840 And everything's measured against that.
00:16:58.960 If that changes, it does.
00:17:00.920 It's kind of like it's kind of like if that goes down, there's benefit and there's good and bad to that going down, the cost of the dollar going down.
00:17:09.960 But I do think that's what he's trying to do. I think he's trying to devalue the dollar that will that will make a big difference for what he's able to do and the cost of how he's able to do it.
00:17:22.000 But it has huge implications globally. And it's not as simple as it sounds. Nothing is as simple as Trump makes it sound.
00:17:30.140 He makes it sound like it's just, oh, you're paying even the goods and services like he's tariffing goods, but he's not tariffing services.
00:17:37.660 and the u.s has a you know they they they trade a lot they they have a lot of surplus in services
00:17:45.120 so they give a lot of other countries buy services from the u.s oh if those countries say we're
00:17:52.740 putting tariffs on your services that will deeply impact the american economy so um right now it's
00:17:59.660 on goods everything's focused on goods but if it if it shifts to um services as well i think that's
00:18:06.740 going to be a whole other agenda. And when you think about services, you think about technology
00:18:11.480 services, or, you know, anything to do with the new financial systems that are electronic and
00:18:19.440 service driven. If you think about any, you know, buying media from a media company that's selling
00:18:27.180 it to somebody else in the globe, so you can advertise in the US on their station, or, you
00:18:32.240 whatever global media companies you're seeing that these things are so again connected and and i and
00:18:38.820 i'm as i said i'm not an economist i'm probably doing a really shitty job of explaining what i
00:18:43.240 think is happening um because i don't really understand it fully myself um i only understand
00:18:49.460 the basic premises of it i think you have to be an economist to really understand
00:18:54.820 the complexity and to really understand what happens if you pull on this lever what happens
00:19:00.900 on the other side of the equation. Well, I think, I mean, I have read a lot about
00:19:07.860 devaluation of currency. If the currency is worth less, they owe less, those kinds of things. And I
00:19:14.380 think that all makes sense. I find it hysterical that we, or not we, not you and I, not a lot of
00:19:22.920 people, the majority of people, but the people supporting this are willing to put such blinders
00:19:28.900 on to any, like the idea that the right is going to ignore economists, I find fascinating. I find
00:19:37.020 absolutely fascinating and, and still go down this rabbit hole of, you know, trying to measure
00:19:46.600 prowess country for country, because all this man really wants is every country to pick up the phone
00:19:52.340 and make that phone call. We're never going to hear, by the way, I don't think we will ever hear
00:19:57.220 in a legitimate way or a significant way, you know, well, Canada used to put 200% on our dairy,
00:20:04.800 but now they don't put anything. Like, we're never going to hear that. We're going to hear
00:20:08.840 Canada gave us a much better deal. We're friends again. Everything's good. I won. Yay. I'm the man.
00:20:14.920 Let's move on. And then you're going to have to dig for it. And when you dig for it, that's going
00:20:19.620 to get buried in the idea that nothing happened. Probably. For your listeners, and I know you have
00:20:27.960 a lot of American listeners, so I would say two things. Forget what I've said about what's
00:20:35.100 happening in terms of, you know, the devaluation of the dollar and what's happening with the
00:20:39.640 connectivity between all of the countries. Listen to like podcasts like Ezra Klein's podcast.
00:20:45.300 Yeah. Ezra Klein's podcast does a very good job of explaining the fundamentals through really smart economists of what could happen and what might be happening and why they think it's happening.
00:20:58.340 And, and, and I, and I would also say to your American listeners, the American people that I know are very proud to be American. They've, they've always, they, they, they, they, I think they've always felt the weight of being, you know, important on the global stage.
00:21:19.120 They've always felt elevated because they've worked hard and they've driven things to great conclusions.
00:21:28.180 And they've built an amazing nation as a result of that, a very highly productive, interesting nation.
00:21:35.720 But it has a lot of debt.
00:21:37.280 It has a lot of challenges.
00:21:39.500 And so that glory of the best country in the world, that's changed now.
00:21:48.420 and I can't imagine that Americans aren't feeling the weight of that that they're not feeling like
00:21:53.520 wait a minute like I was at the podium I felt like I was first and I felt like the people around me
00:22:00.280 you know I was part of a team that was we were all doing great and we you know we did our thing
00:22:04.960 in the world stage and yeah maybe we spent too much money helping over here but you know like
00:22:09.040 that's fine because we are doing okay and now that they're starting to struggle because of debt and
00:22:13.900 because of other challenges, they're no longer on that podium. They're not even in the same game.
00:22:20.680 They're really being isolated. And I think that's got to hurt. I feel for the American people.
00:22:27.760 I don't think for the most part they want this. I completely agree. The amount of messages I get
00:22:34.740 that are people saying, I'm so sorry. We don't feel this way. We don't believe this. And putting
00:22:41.720 that aside, I read something and I was on a live the other night because I genuinely felt horrible.
00:22:47.240 This is what it is to be a Canadian. I read a CTV, whatever. And it said that a lot of Americans,
00:22:53.800 and I had to read it twice because I didn't understand what I was reading. A lot of Americans
00:22:57.700 are trepidatious about visiting and vacationing in Canada for fear of how we are going to treat
00:23:05.400 them. I did a whole live where I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We are going to be the exact same
00:23:13.080 people, the welcoming people. This isn't a Canadian versus American thing. This is an
00:23:20.580 idiot ideology that has unfortunately taken a hold of a group of people. I don't even think 1.00
00:23:25.360 that whole group of people even stands with him even close to that anymore. In no way,
00:23:30.860 shape or form should you feel nervous? I feel nervous crossing their border. I don't want them
00:23:35.800 feeling nervous crossing ours. Well, you've got, they've now put a 30 day, you know, restriction
00:23:41.220 if you don't fill out a visa to say you're going to be there. And I think, you know, there was a
00:23:46.240 power outage in Wisconsin just recently. And, you know, if they want to know whether Canadians will
00:23:51.740 rise to continue to help, we sent water bombers to the wildfires in California when their electricity
00:23:59.360 was down in Wisconsin we sent people to help repair the lines and to fix it Canadians are
00:24:04.860 always this is our superpower we're always going to do I believe the right thing but that doesn't
00:24:10.160 mean we're not angry that doesn't mean that we're not you know that we're going to trust
00:24:13.960 we're going to trust the negotiations that doesn't mean that we're going to spend money in America
00:24:17.820 the way we were we're obviously not going to but that doesn't mean that we're not good
00:24:22.320 and decent people and we aren't going to do the right thing and I think
00:24:25.720 that matters right now yeah i think canada's got an opportunity because of that to lead a movement
00:24:34.700 for good and i posted about this joanna the other day and i i really think this um i put it on my
00:24:41.500 linkedin that you know it i use the margaret mead quote which was never doubt that a small group of
00:24:47.100 concerned citizens can change the world indeed it is the only thing that ever has it i might be
00:24:52.200 abridging it. And I thought, okay, we've got a small group of people who are trying to change
00:24:58.980 the world right now for the bad. Where's the movement for the good? And can Canada lead that
00:25:05.200 effort? Can Canada be the nation that rises up through its decency, through its approach, through
00:25:10.800 its value system to lead a movement for good? Because that's what's missing right now. People
00:25:19.240 don't have a movement for good when we need one. You know, it's interesting because I just heard
00:25:24.700 that Trump turned down North Carolina's request for FEMA. So he said it's not necessary. See,
00:25:33.180 for me, if I was running the Canadian government, I'd offer. I'd go on TV the next day.
00:25:41.500 I understand it's probably going to be turned down, but in any way, shape, or form that we can
00:25:47.380 reach out and help people that need it in the United States, especially to the negation of
00:25:53.640 this particular group of people. I know that Gavin Newsom's talking about how he's going to
00:25:57.900 facilitate trade deals that have nothing to do with trade barriers. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
00:26:03.020 we're not these people. And just so you know, we're the fifth biggest economy in the world.
00:26:08.200 California is the fifth biggest economy. We have no desire. We have no desire to do this. And I
00:26:14.800 know there's all of these different barriers that are locking it up, but I think that reaching out
00:26:20.560 and saying, California need our help during the wire fires? We'll be there. North Carolina, you
00:26:25.540 need our help? Cool. Send people down there. Let Trump stand up and say, we don't want it. We won't
00:26:31.540 take it. Go ahead. Say that, sir. Because the quickest way to get him off his self-created
00:26:37.580 throne is by showing him for the small little tiny man he is. That's how we do it. I don't know how
00:26:44.300 canadians will take that you know like it's it's it's a lovely thought um but i think you know we're
00:26:49.840 telling we're telling canadians to buy at home we're telling canadians to travel at home we're
00:26:53.660 saying and and it doesn't mean we shouldn't help but i do think that we've got to be careful that
00:26:58.240 our dollars that need to be right now building our country and our nation are are staying here
00:27:04.740 you know what happened in the u.s is you saw people vote for change they they they got they
00:27:10.200 well, you know, like, okay, I don't know, under Biden, they seem to be dissatisfied. So they
00:27:16.680 said, okay, let's change. And they didn't understand the impact of that decision.
00:27:22.360 Change for change sake is never a good idea. And, you know, you're better holding your
00:27:28.040 politicians accountable, I think. But it's going to be interesting. It'll be interesting to see
00:27:32.760 what happens in Canada. It will be very interesting to see what happens here.
00:27:36.840 So as China steps out, very recently, I've seen a lot of TikToks about China and then Chinese manufacturers exposing all of these very expensive elite brands.
00:27:49.660 I'm like, well, this is how I'm going to get my mom, you know, a Birkin.
00:27:52.700 This is exactly how I'm going to go about it. 0.93
00:27:56.060 She does like a nice purse. 1.00
00:27:58.380 And they started, they just started putting it all on blast.
00:28:01.340 They said, listen, here's how they, here's how, and they do it so intelligently because they don't, they don't come off as heavy handed as I am. They're just like, here's what we make guys. And just so you know, this is what we make, see all of the different kinds and you can see what they are. And I, and I realize you think that they're all made in Italy or France, but really they put on the tag there so they can say it was made there or manufactured, whatever. He goes, but this is where we're doing it.
00:28:26.900 So if you'd like to reach out, there's different ways to reach out so you can have a more direct line.
00:28:32.240 So we can, and I'm watching this going, oh, oh, you're just going to blow up the, and it is very, a diluted sense of, you know, expensive brands in some instances.
00:28:47.280 And I think they're just going to blow up the entire market and see how that goes.
00:28:53.120 I mean, maybe. I think what you're seeing is, first of all, there's the power of a brand is huge. And, you know, a brand like a Birkin Hermes, Hermes is very purposeful in terms of how many bags it puts out, the quality of what it puts in.
00:29:09.600 i i saw that tick tock and i think they said okay it costs fourteen hundred dollars it's going to
00:29:13.800 cost you thirty thousand at the store yes but there's there's there's the when they put that
00:29:19.000 brand on they are actually stamping that it is all of the right leathers and the zippers and
00:29:24.060 everything else on there is their quality and and i think the letter comes from italy um but
00:29:30.120 beyond that it's their retail locations it's their there's so much more that adds cost to that um
00:29:37.220 Right. But I think their real point, and not to say that that that justifies the price difference, more to say, I think their their point is you you need us, world.
00:29:52.180 We are we without us, without our, you know, our effective labor costs, automation, the things that we're doing.
00:29:59.060 I mean, China and the cities in China are they're incredibly sophisticated.
00:30:04.480 they know exactly what they're doing when it comes to manufacture and to think that american
00:30:09.160 can become that manufacturer again as it was in the 50s and 60s it's not going to happen it is
00:30:14.920 not going to happen it's literally impossible for it to happen and so you need you know especially
00:30:20.620 when you need resources from other countries in order for it to be effective you saw it with him
00:30:25.220 I'm taking down the, the phone tariffs. Why? Because he can't make them.
00:30:32.400 Yeah. The list of things he took the tariffs off in about 37 seconds was everything pretty much.
00:30:40.960 He left off like kids toys are still going to get tariffed and maybe some clothes, but
00:30:45.760 everything else it's off. It's already, it's already, and nobody's really talking about it.
00:30:51.140 nobody's really, you know, acknowledging how embarrassing that is and what a play that was.
00:30:58.000 He thrives on uncertainty. He loves to create uncertainty because that puts everybody
00:31:02.540 on alert and that changes how the markets react. And that is part of his game. The fear and
00:31:08.820 uncertainty is part of what he uses. And, you know, this is a guy who's, you know, he's gone
00:31:13.860 bankrupt a number of times. He's unafraid to try things and see what happens and then carry on.
00:31:21.140 But it is fascinating to me that one man can do this.
00:31:27.380 Could you imagine if a woman, if we'd had a woman in government saying, and the chief of staff said, or somebody that, you know, high in their government said, well, she just trusts her instincts.
00:31:42.440 Because that's what they said about Trump.
00:31:43.700 He just trusts his, we trust his instincts.
00:31:46.020 Can you imagine?
00:31:47.340 No.
00:31:47.720 if it would it would be you're too emotional you don't think logically you're not smart enough
00:31:53.800 could you imagine bringing your kid to a cabinet meeting and putting them on your shoulders and
00:32:01.520 walking in and everybody goes oh that's so cute no no no you would be the exact reason we shouldn't 0.79
00:32:10.080 have women in the workforce yeah well that's how you would be held i when he brought his son he 1.00
00:32:15.820 brings them everywhere, obviously. Just the one, because I guess the other 13 don't matter. 0.99
00:32:20.380 Elon Musk is talking about now. Yeah, of course. And everybody, and it's just like every other time
00:32:26.740 they speak about their children as though they are representatives of them and this amazing,
00:32:34.580 impressive thing. Meanwhile, we all know that it's, look what just happened in the house,
00:32:40.040 just happened in the house where they try to pass that bill in order to allow brand new mothers that
00:32:46.200 just had babies physically birth the child um that they were able to vote a proxy they were able to
00:32:53.660 have a proxy vote we're like no no that's where we draw the line but somebody give elon musk a
00:33:01.480 medal for carrying his son in on his shoulders yesterday yeah no it's it's unbelievable it is
00:33:08.420 unbelievable but but i think you know i think it's unbelievable but i do think it's going you're
00:33:14.420 going to see things i i i the world needs a hero the world needs a nation to stand up or nations
00:33:21.760 to stand together i do think that will happen but i hope it happens soon because some of these
00:33:28.880 things are going to be irreversible the damage that's being done to the veterans in america to
00:33:35.180 the seniors in america the damage that's being done to all of the people who are in need on
00:33:41.120 medicaid or on you know like these things are there's there's huge challenges going on relative
00:33:46.920 to the impact of people getting their checks and everything they need to survive um i i hope it
00:33:54.720 happens soon because what you don't want to see is people that are in need paying the biggest price
00:34:00.060 while people who are in power blind their pockets with gold that's what you don't want to see
00:34:04.780 I think you already are, unfortunately.
00:34:06.860 Did you hear the latest that they're about to put Social Security and all Social Security communications on X?
00:34:15.720 No.
00:34:17.520 This is the latest, is the idea that Social Security, like the call-in phone lines,
00:34:25.100 like everybody who calls in and needs help with Social Security, Elon Musk has deemed that's all fraud.
00:34:30.540 So he'd like to shift it all.
00:34:32.420 um and they've spoken about i've read articles about it they would like to shift all of the
00:34:37.500 management of such to the x platform my mom can't go on facetime arlene she holds the phone like this
00:34:48.420 you think yeah how are we going to teach how well i'm not even talking about the ethical and the
00:35:01.680 legal implications, but who are we going to teach to use a social media platform, their computer
00:35:10.320 or their phone in order to get access to the money they need to survive? Yeah, no, it's sad.
00:35:18.900 And well, I understand the automation that's going to change the world. I understand that
00:35:25.420 we're moving to a different type of economy um that things are changing it is this isn't rip
00:35:32.980 the band-aid off to make things happen immediately like and i and i think again we've got to be
00:35:38.800 careful in canada that we don't fall prey to the same thing which says immediately that a business
00:35:45.520 mentality takes over our country and operates it like a business because government's not a
00:35:50.780 business. So it's people need to be protected. That's government's job. And I don't think he's
00:35:56.520 doing a good job of protecting the American people. No, I don't think that's his driving
00:36:01.760 force. I think it's also interesting, all this automation, all of this invention or sort of
00:36:07.780 inclusion of AI. Unfortunately, I can't, as AI gets up, like as it rises in how much you can use
00:36:16.360 it as as technology rises in how you do everything i can't trust anything do you know how many cool
00:36:24.200 people and opportunities and i bet you i've missed lots i've almost missed because i don't believe it
00:36:30.680 when somebody emails me or somebody calls me or contacts me from a particular place i'm like i
00:36:38.720 don't believe you i i don't believe i remember tiktok contacting me wanting me to go to head
00:36:44.580 office. And I, I remember I said to Anna, I said, I don't, I don't know what this is, but I'm pretty
00:36:49.940 sure it's not TikTok. I'm just going to go down there and something stupid is going to happen or 0.68
00:36:54.160 whatever, because that's the level of a, that's how quickly AI, my mom gets text messages every 0.95
00:37:00.720 five seconds telling her that her Netflix subscription is timed out. And she'll call me,
00:37:06.280 Joanna, did you pay Netflix? I'm like, you're not on Netflix. That is a, that's a fraud. Like that's
00:37:12.480 fraud so there's as all this is happening there's there's a there's a group of um there's not a
00:37:20.480 group there's numerous groups who will reach out to you and say hey um oprah wants to have you on
00:37:27.540 her podcast and you know like uh like i'm her producer we want to set up a meeting with you
00:37:34.140 and it looks legit it comes from an oprah looking like email address but if you go on the email
00:37:41.480 sorry if you have a meeting with whoever this producer supposedly is what they're going to do
00:37:46.180 is get you to you know like let's log into your Facebook let's make sure we're all set up so that
00:37:50.900 we can do this you know this podcast together right and they get your credentials and so you
00:37:56.280 know that um you know hey mom I've lost my phone can you send me a new phone um hey it's the bank
00:38:02.260 calling I need you to you know um you send me your pin number because we can't get access to
00:38:07.880 your account right now and there's fraudulent activity and if you're a senior and and and
00:38:12.720 listen i am a senior i'm over 65 like and i think you know i'm i'm think i'm savvy but there are
00:38:19.720 times where it's so darn good that you go is this real like i don't think that about revenue
00:38:26.620 candida calls or you know like the the calls i just mentioned but there's stuff that is really
00:38:32.640 really they're getting real good you know what i'm almost at a i swear to god i'm almost at a
00:38:37.780 point where I'm going to buy a computer that I don't do anything else on other than have maybe
00:38:46.560 meetings and have those kind of, you know, have a Zoom meeting or have a whatever meeting and have
00:38:52.780 a completely separate email that has nothing to do with anything else in my life, that I don't do
00:38:58.860 anything else on that computer. So that if and when somebody tries to break into something,
00:39:04.340 they got no place to go. I'm almost at a point where I want to revert. If I get a call from my
00:39:11.040 bank, I swear to God, I just go into the bank. I swear. Because even if you pick up the phone now
00:39:18.620 and there's a pause there and you say, hello, hello, hello, they're actually recording your
00:39:23.020 voice and using your voice to create looped tapes. So you've got to be on the alert. And you
00:39:30.240 also have to look for news stories that if your gut says this can't be real trust you've got man
00:39:36.960 like trust yourself because it likely isn't um but it's it's it's it and you know what the problem
00:39:43.800 is is that ai everybody wanted to race race race to be the first to create the best ai tools and
00:39:49.620 there's no guardrails around it there's no restrictions around it there's no you know
00:39:53.540 it's like social media there's there's absolutely no regulation around it um it's not good
00:39:59.100 Yeah. And I think that, I mean, not only are there no restrictions, but it's, I mean, all I can think about is Skynet. The problem is people running the show didn't watch Terminator. And they don't understand. It learns. And they've already said there's elements of AI. It is learning. It is getting better. I'm like, well, that's it. We're done. We've lost. It's just going to learn to get better, get better, get better.
00:40:28.440 Have you ever seen Battlestar Galactica? Yeah. Yeah. Did you see the old one or the new one?
00:40:34.580 Oh, I don't remember. I know I've seen it, but I don't remember which version.
00:40:38.080 You have to watch the, I don't, I never watched the old one, but you have to watch the new one
00:40:42.400 because it's something, it's so brilliant in its philosophy outside of its, whether you like the
00:40:47.840 sci-fi part or not. But the philosophical premise is you create machines to do the stuff you don't
00:40:53.640 want to do, right? The machines get somewhat sentient and say, we don't want to do this
00:40:58.320 anymore. And we say, well, no, that's why we built you very much of a slavery dynamic.
00:41:03.920 There's a huge war. We win. They go away for, I don't know, like 20 years. They come back 0.75
00:41:11.540 way smarter and they just destroy us. Absolutely destroy us because they see us as the oppressors
00:41:21.680 and they see themselves as being sentient capable individuals now the the philosophy of it has a lot
00:41:29.360 of spiritual aspects to it but this notion that we're constantly trying to create and nobody's
00:41:36.240 ever questioning it we're constantly trying to create ways to do things easier ways to take
00:41:43.200 jobs away from people who actually gives them purpose to do what make it cheaper make it cheaper
00:41:51.200 so we can consume more consume more to what end yeah yeah what what's the goal here what about
00:41:59.120 quality of life what about you know you're exactly right i thought we were going to talk about fun
00:42:04.400 things i'm sorry but i mean i slid into battle star galactica i'm saying all this as i'm sitting
00:42:11.280 in a room like i probably just didn't say like yeah let's uh okay okay so let's what sorry go
00:42:20.880 go ahead. Yep. Oh, you go. I was going to ask your favorite TV show. Oh, my favorite TV show.
00:42:27.060 I can make a hard shift. I, I've been watching two shows lately. Um, um, Gavin and Stacey,
00:42:35.740 which is an old British sitcom. Gavin and Stacey. Okay. Yeah. It has, um, James Corden in it and a
00:42:44.720 few others early days it was i think done in 2007 or something so imagine 18 years ago james and uh
00:42:52.840 it's actually i like british humor a lot i really enjoy and so i've kind of like been watching that
00:42:59.640 and then i my daughter uh told me to start watching um love on the spectrum and i have
00:43:05.580 my feelings about it because i i i love the i love the beauty of the stories and the and the
00:43:13.580 honest raw like um yeah like the honesty of it i i love that but then i i'm so suspicious of tv
00:43:22.200 and you know are they are they taking advantage here are they doing anything so i said to her i
00:43:26.660 said i feel kind of but but so i'm kind of i'm not so sure about that um what else have i been
00:43:33.340 watching um surface i've been watching which is interesting uh what about your favorite tv show
00:43:39.440 of all time i said you have to you're gonna re-watch something that you've watched what is
00:43:46.540 it like what's your go-to is it a comedy i i i really liked golden girls um i especially like
00:43:55.300 it now because you you realize they're in their 40s and 50s they were and um and and honestly
00:44:04.040 betty white and all of them they were just so good and they made me laugh um i i yeah i liked
00:44:11.420 i liked golden girls i also liked mash i thought mash was just a lovely wonderful
00:44:15.820 the cast was fantastic yeah exactly back to work um but yeah there's a i don't know i'd have to
00:44:24.400 think about that a little more. You brought us back to Korea. Okay. Favorite movie of all time.
00:44:31.720 Oh, that's a tough one. You're going to tell me, listen, I'm going to let you do this. Tell me
00:44:35.840 your, you know, your, the movie that everybody says is my favorite movie. Then tell me your
00:44:40.280 real favorite movie, because I have this theory that everybody's favorite movie is something like
00:44:44.860 Shawshank Redemption because they want to feel smart. But everybody's real favorite movie is
00:44:49.520 like you know all the right moves with tom cruise you know what i'm saying like
00:44:53.900 well first of all i've got a horrific memory i always have around kind of titles of things but
00:45:01.320 i i think i i really liked decept was it deception with um um leonardo dicaprio or oh um
00:45:10.700 not deception um starts with i inception inception yeah one that's all messed up and
00:45:19.940 he's not really on the i thought that was a good movie i'm not my favorite movie of all time but
00:45:24.480 i i don't know i don't really have i i really am eclectic that way like i i i will love something
00:45:31.880 and then i'll like i forget about it and then i'll watch the next thing so i'm i'm thinking
00:45:37.220 yeah but i actually did like shawshank redemption it was it really was a very good movie although
00:45:45.380 it didn't do well in the box office it didn't listen nobody understood it even the people a lot
00:45:50.460 of nobody understood the real meaning of what was going on in that what about you what's yours i
00:45:56.180 never saw titanic so i can't even say that uh jaws jaws is my favorite because i was scared i was
00:46:03.180 scared of the ocean for 20 years. So I think it deserves a level of accolade. I do like different
00:46:08.320 genres. So I go way back. Like I like going way back to like the thin man with, uh, Myrna Loy
00:46:15.320 and William Powell. I love, love anything with Catherine Hepburn, Adam's rib. I have a huge
00:46:22.220 poster of Adam's rib in my, uh, in my office at school. And I tell the kids the story about
00:46:28.780 Adam's rib and they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, well, I'm going to make them sit down
00:46:32.600 to watch it. Um, so I like old movies like that. Um, I haven't seen that one in a long time.
00:46:41.220 What was the one that had Jane Fonda and, and, and her brother and, and the, um, motorcycle?
00:46:49.100 Um, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah. And the world's worst at, I, I'm telling you,
00:46:53.680 I don't remember the names of anything. I never have. Um, but that was also, uh,
00:46:58.800 gosh i can't think of that was also very good because i love jane fonda i love who she is as
00:47:05.260 a human and i love easy rider easy rider also jane fonda might be my favorite when people talk
00:47:12.500 about celebrity um she's incredible and i just was re-watching newsroom i think i was talking
00:47:18.580 to you about it a little bit yeah yeah and even her character and that i'm like she you know
00:47:24.760 obviously Frankie and Grace, Grace and Frankie, Frankie and Grace is amazing, but she's, but the
00:47:31.300 person she is always impresses me. You know, like a lot of people are like, Joanna, like, why don't
00:47:37.020 you, you, why don't you get more celebrities on, you know, whatever. Cause they, maybe I have
00:47:43.920 interactions with some people. I'm like, listen, actors and actresses and musicians, they're
00:47:48.500 amazing and they're amazing at what they do. But the people I want to talk to are the people that
00:47:53.160 have something else to talk about. I'm not going to sit, I'm not, I'm not intelligent enough or
00:48:00.320 aware enough or educated enough to talk about acting techniques and what did it, that's not
00:48:05.780 going to be any fun for me. So I want to talk about things that, that I understand and that
00:48:10.200 I can connect to. So if they're going to talk about, you know, social issues, like the fact
00:48:15.200 that angelina jolie gave up movies and worked for the un like what that's what i want to talk about
00:48:23.380 yeah she's she's impressive too i think what people don't often connect is the that the
00:48:29.780 movies and tv shows are an absolute reflection of what's going on in society and where we're
00:48:37.200 trending so if you think about like um uh the one with um will smith in it um again terrible with
00:48:46.140 names um new movie or older no an old tv show where he was uh going into the what's that yeah
00:48:53.620 fresh fresh prince miller yeah so if you if you think about fresh prince or sanford and sons or
00:49:00.520 um uh Archie Bunker's uh family what was it whatever it was called um these these movies
00:49:07.540 and tv shows are reflections of society and they actually are arbiters of what is happening
00:49:15.620 and the shift culturally that needs to happen and is happening and so whether it was a black
00:49:21.460 kid living in a rich white home whether it was the Beverly Hillbillies and people who were poor
00:49:27.020 being gentr, going into a gentrification into a neighborhood and having money suddenly, whether
00:49:31.960 it was, you know, all like Sanford and Sons, a junk dealer and, you know, or the racism and the
00:49:40.140 homophobia that happened in with Archie Bunker and that whole angst between him and Edith and
00:49:49.560 son-in-law and his daughter. This is all, this isn't just entertainment. And this is what I
00:49:56.280 think hollywood does uh when it does it well it does it very well it's a reflection of what is
00:50:01.100 really happening in our world and you're probably going to you know you are seen and have seen over
00:50:06.240 the course of the last five or six years um you know an evolution of of the awareness of what's
00:50:11.840 going on politically in in the world absolutely and and some of the challenges that we are facing
00:50:16.400 as a nation and even up to today where you saw you know where you see adolescence uh you know
00:50:22.280 a TV series about what's happening to young boys and how they're getting
00:50:26.820 radicalized and how they're, you know, like online,
00:50:29.600 they're changing who they are and what's going on with social media.
00:50:32.440 That is a reflection of now and what could happen.
00:50:36.020 So I always say to people, pay attention,
00:50:38.240 pay attention to the narrative that's out there because it actually,
00:50:41.980 not only does it reflect it,
00:50:43.040 but it actually also encourages it and it makes people think it's normal.
00:50:46.280 So you have to be careful that just because you saw it on a TV show doesn't
00:50:49.700 mean that it's right.
00:50:50.640 i i include it often yeah in in most of the courses that i teach i often have a sort of a
00:50:58.720 pop culture or a media aspect and i remember i used to get blowback you know 15 years ago or
00:51:04.920 whatever you know joanna what do you what do you mean you're going to make them watch a tv show or
00:51:09.640 like what they're just doing it for fun i'm like you guys are missing the point um could it could
00:51:14.640 they think it's fun yeah but but and and the students could think it's fun however um if you
00:51:21.340 ask the right questions and you you sort of push them into really really good brave incredibly
00:51:28.320 powerful discussions i'm doing 10 times the work and 10 times the research and investigation
00:51:34.780 and sort of framing as i could do with a textbook yeah absolutely newsroom i could teach politics
00:51:43.280 just from that show, from that show alone. I could have kids rewrite the way a government
00:51:54.440 or a presidential race question should have gone. I could have them rewrite the way that the news
00:52:00.160 should have reflected particular instances. If there were no advertisers, if there was no
00:52:05.460 government intrusion, if the news wasn't based on ratings and you didn't need to put it in like
00:52:13.280 who kim kardashian was dating the all of that stuff and the kids are locked in it but it's real
00:52:20.640 you think that's not real but that's what's running our world right yeah it's interesting
00:52:25.440 it's really interesting i mean i have so much respect for you as a teacher like i think
00:52:30.720 my my father had a phd in education and he wrote his thesis on on self-paced learning and how we
00:52:36.880 all learn at different speeds and how you know computers could actually help us instead of just
00:52:42.640 relying on saying to a classroom, you all have to learn at the same speed and keep up with chapter
00:52:46.880 by chapter or course by course. He really believed, and I think he's right, that people,
00:52:53.200 we all learn individually and differently. And so his thought was using computers to help
00:52:58.700 enable self-paced learning. And so he was a teacher. My two sisters have university
00:53:05.320 bachelor's of education and and my one sister was a teacher my stepmother was a university
00:53:12.680 professor my dad eventually oh my god you're surrounded by us surrounded by teachers my
00:53:17.580 whole life and i i have so much and my my my daughter-in-law was a teacher um like i i and
00:53:23.820 i i just think teachers are the most underrated profession in in and and i'll tell you why
00:53:34.880 i think we're seeing what happens when education gets yeah gets left behind we put kids through
00:53:43.700 school we can't we don't fail them anymore we we we can't tell them that they need to do better we
00:53:49.060 we we we put teachers in a place of fear because in the u.s with the the shootings and all of they
00:53:56.720 they're learning self-defense and defense more than they're learning how to do you know like
00:54:01.400 do extracurricular things. We're putting too much workload on them. We're not allowing them to
00:54:07.960 create intelligence. We're just having them go through motions. And I think
00:54:13.000 that is why we're not seeing as much critical thinking because we are not
00:54:16.440 putting the importance of teaching where it needs to be. I have a lot of respect for you.
00:54:22.440 That is, it is a tough job, tough, tough job. I think it's a lot about money, right?
00:54:26.760 Right. Again, it all comes down to that conversation or that little bit of a line
00:54:31.960 of thought we were talking about earlier about what do we want society to do? What are we moving
00:54:37.980 so fast to get? We're moving so fast to get out of school, to get a job, to get money, to buy
00:54:43.160 things, to mass consume, and then to do what? What is the thing? So if we're going to put a dollar
00:54:50.740 value on education, which obviously do because we have to pay for it, every time a kid doesn't
00:54:56.280 quite get it right there's a knee-jerk reaction oh just pass them just pass them so they get it
00:55:03.480 pass them so they get it they don't have to repeat it it doesn't cost more money
00:55:06.920 because i honestly believe if we were being very truthful way more truthful than than you know a
00:55:13.880 lot of parents would like every kid is very much at a different pace for a different subject area
00:55:23.240 i have kids that could do math all the way through grade 12 in about 10 minutes but are going to take
00:55:29.800 a very long time to do english or a very long time to learn computers so what do we do self-paced
00:55:37.480 learning let's and it's perfect but in order to have that kind of system you need to have you
00:55:43.800 need to be able to tell a parent listen they're just not getting it they're not getting it that's
00:55:49.000 okay. Right. But if we were honest, I, every single kid would not be getting something. I
00:55:55.500 promise you, I promise you. So this notion of, well, I'm not quite getting it as quickly.
00:56:00.980 It wouldn't be care. You wouldn't have to carry so much shame with it. And parents wouldn't have
00:56:06.200 to think, oh, well then my kid's broken and they're not going to be ever successful. And
00:56:10.100 all of that can go out the window and we can just be honest about the way in which we have to tackle,
00:56:16.500 you know, education. I've been learning a lot about, I don't know if you guys have IB out there.
00:56:22.000 It's, it's a different type. We've never really, I haven't been allowed to do this at, at Metro.
00:56:28.540 Obviously I haven't been ever in the driving seat until now, but the more that I learn about it,
00:56:33.720 it's kind of like what we're talking about. And the only way you can do it is if you have enough
00:56:39.140 versatility and money in the system to allow students to sort of take advantage of this kind
00:56:48.660 of, I don't want to say Montessori kind of learning, but in a way it is. It's a little
00:56:53.500 bit more sporadic. It's a little bit more, it's heavily based on critical thinking. And you need
00:57:00.680 to have a staff that's more versatile in how they're going to teach it and when, you know,
00:57:06.260 and you need to have the tools through computers to be able to enable that and support that and
00:57:14.580 and maybe that's maybe that's maybe that's what we should say at the end here is that we want to
00:57:20.120 make education important again because it is it is so that sounds like a good hat
00:57:26.380 I should be in marketing wait a minute I think you have a bit of experience
00:57:34.320 Well, thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
00:57:37.440 I really appreciate it.
00:57:38.940 I appreciate that you even cut your very nice long walk short so you could come on.
00:57:43.960 Anytime. It's always fun to talk to you.
00:57:45.420 I was cutting you off a few times.
00:57:47.440 I was getting so excited.
00:57:48.560 So that's all I guess.
00:57:50.040 Those are the best conversations.
00:57:53.000 Thank you so much.
00:57:54.200 And for everybody who is listening, thank you.
00:57:57.100 Don't forget to watch Arlene.
00:57:58.580 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:58:00.120 When am I going to be on your show?
00:58:01.880 Well, I think we're going to have to redo it.
00:58:04.320 We have to do another episode.
00:58:06.720 But when's my episode going to come out?
00:58:08.940 I know.
00:58:09.380 Well, Marina's going to call you.
00:58:10.840 We're going to, we're going to sort through it.
00:58:12.700 We've got to, we've got to.
00:58:14.100 Oh, we have to read.
00:58:15.240 Oh, okay.
00:58:15.980 Okay.
00:58:16.700 I like it.
00:58:17.480 All right.
00:58:17.960 So I will let you guys know Arlene is Alone TV show on YouTube.
00:58:23.060 There's going to be an episode and Joanna's going to talk about everything to do with
00:58:27.280 being, well, she was single for like, I think three minutes. 1.00
00:58:32.200 Listen, that's all you get in the world of lesbians. 1.00
00:58:37.540 Maybe I need to turn. 1.00
00:58:38.880 I don't know.
00:58:39.380 Like, maybe that's what it is.
00:58:40.700 I don't, but we got you.
00:58:42.640 We got you covered on this side.
00:58:44.320 All right.
00:58:44.740 Everybody who's listening, thank you for hanging out.
00:58:47.320 I will see you next Tuesday.
00:58:49.380 Same bat time, same bat channel. 0.96
00:58:52.400 Dismissed. 1.00