00:00:54.840and uh you know we i grew up here you know had all my friends here and everything like that and
00:00:59.760then i went to college for a couple years and um actually went for music performance and i hated
00:01:05.620school so i ended up dropping out because all my buddies were working on the road you know welding
00:01:09.920and stuff at the time so i was like dang i want to do something like that and i was washing dishes
00:01:13.300for eight dollars and fifty cents an hour at the local bar in my college town so i quit school and
00:01:19.580then went to welding school and then started working on the road and i did that for about
00:01:22.680four and a half years and taught myself how to write songs while I was on the road somewhat in
00:01:27.620college but really when I was on the road and then um uh started downloaded TikTok in like 2019
00:01:34.860and started posting my music on there and it kind of just blew up or whatever and and you know I
00:01:40.380ended up quitting my job back in 2021 or 2020 end of 2020 and um have been doing it full-time ever
00:01:50.060since so uh just writing songs and stuff like that but to get into like the political stuff
00:01:54.640i really didn't talk about politics for a long time i i wouldn't touch them you know until like
00:02:02.780really late 2024 is really when i started talking about stuff because it just started getting
00:02:07.240you know i saw the road we were going down and i just i knew that it was going to be too loud to
00:02:14.080ignore and i was feeling passionately about it in my personal life so i started writing it about
00:02:18.680or writing about it more and i couldn't it was just i couldn't shut it off so i decided to just
00:02:24.720lean into it and and uh you know here we are now i'm trying to just make a difference because
00:02:31.200history is going to be told and it's going to be told through art and i want to be a part of that
00:02:34.660absolutely it will be and it's interesting when everybody talks about how artists and musicians
00:02:40.960and actors shouldn't have a voice and it's politics and just do your thing and what those
00:02:45.840people fail to understand or what they're trying to manipulate is the absolute power of art whether
00:02:52.500it be on the screen whether it be in a in a you know in a painting whether it be in a song that's
00:02:58.980where it lies when people talk about revolution they talk about the songs they talk about the
00:03:04.880art they talk about the cultural shift and that comes from individuals like you and i have to say
00:03:11.780when I first saw you, that's what, like your music for me was secondary only because I saw you
00:03:18.620talking on TikTok. So your music ended up being secondary to the passion and the authenticity of
00:03:25.840your voice. And I think as we go through different, you know, incarnations of music and fads and
00:03:33.180trends and things like that, I think people right now are starved, are desperate for authenticity.
00:03:41.780and and whatever direction that that takes i think that's what people are drawn to now it's
00:03:46.980not without its weight how do you so so small town 3 500 people yeah for those who don't know
00:03:54.900you know about your music and about your stance you are a leftly have you always been a left
00:04:00.020leading guy or did you yeah always yeah i mean ever since i was a kid i mean growing up in a
00:04:06.740a small town you have just in circles and just in the small town itself you have tendencies that
00:04:13.920you got to like address at some point in your life you know what i'm saying so like you know
00:04:18.840racist things that you learn pick up growing up you know stuff like that you have to be able to
00:04:23.900unlearn and for me like that was around 15 16 years old is when i started realizing like hey
00:04:32.320some of this shit's not cool you know and both my parents are left-leaning as well so uh like my
00:04:37.840grandpa was a democrat my mom grew up in a union household so i mean she has been leaning left her0.98
00:04:44.380whole life and they're both music teachers and my dad grew up on a farm with you know democrats for
00:04:49.360parents and grandparents and stuff like the old school democrats and uh so they they grew up
00:04:55.720being left-leaning and then getting into teaching and stuff like that they saw
00:04:59.560people and students from all walks of life you know kids that were just different and
00:05:04.100you know some kids that were gay or you know whatever and so that kind of for me I was always
00:05:10.640around that way of thinking so that's just the way that I think I grew up you know and I just
00:05:18.040grew up open-minded and grew up having to kind of recognize some of the things that I didn't agree
00:05:23.660with and be like okay that's kind of fucked up you know what I'm saying and like just you know
00:05:27.580But I mean, in a small town, like, I think there's a lot more people that kind of think that way anyways, like I, because people are people, whether you're raised in the, yeah, like when you're raised in the, you know, ultra conservative MAGA household or not, you still are a person and a child grows up, you know, as a kid, you grow up with empathy in your heart for, it doesn't matter.0.97
00:05:52.160so I mean at some point like all that shit is learned throughout your life you know what I'm0.97
00:05:57.000saying so like for me it was just it was easier for me because I had parents who were open-minded0.86
00:06:02.360and accepting of like everyone so I definitely picked up things from them you know but yeah I've
00:06:09.000been left leaning my whole life because I mean of that and and things that I hold personal to myself
00:06:15.540You know, just and I think the older I get, to be honest, the further left I get, not in a like radical sense, but just in a sense of like, you know, there's things that that I picked up, like I said, through growing up in a small town that I was like, that was wrong of me to think, you know, and I've had to have those moments and conversations with myself with my own morality and be like, hey, that's wrong.0.97
00:06:41.020Because the more I educate myself about it, the more I'm like, damn, dude, like, you know what I'm saying?0.90
00:06:46.640And, you know, Consciously says it all the time. Education is elevation. And it truly is.0.98
00:06:51.020I mean, because you're you're faced with things that like you already had a preconceived opinion about and you're faced with actual research and facts that prove you otherwise.
00:07:01.880and you should be able like scientists when they do a you know when they practice the scientific
00:07:10.240method they're trying to prove their hypothesis wrong yeah right right yeah they're trying to
00:07:15.900find the holes not supporting it yeah yes because i mean you know it's all about what's like seeking0.98
00:07:21.860truth basically so for me that's what a big part of it was but also like i said the shit just became0.98
00:07:28.000too loud for me to ignore, especially going into the 2024 election. And I saw the writing on the0.98
00:07:32.900law because I didn't like Donald Trump the first time when he ran and I was pretty outspoken in
00:07:36.940my circles, you know, when I was in college and stuff like that about that specific time period.
00:07:42.860And I just saw it coming again. And I was like, I have to be able to speak about this, you know,
00:07:47.140and I, for a long time, like I said, didn't want to touch it because I knew I was a small artist.
00:07:50.820I was an independent artist at the time really. And, and, and just didn't speak about it because
00:07:55.320it's not you know who what i wanted at the forefront but it became too loud for me to ignore
00:08:00.800and when i honestly started like thinking about all the people that i listened to growing up
00:08:06.440artists that i listened to growing up and artists that i loved and artists that are considered some
00:08:10.600of the greatest artists of all time they were all political i mean cash political uh woody guthrie
00:08:16.060political tupac political nwa political rage against machine political you know what i'm
00:08:22.600saying? And, and some of those artists are some of the greatest artists of all time. So, and I was
00:08:26.540like, if you just have a moment or I just had a moment where it was like, who do I want to be as
00:08:31.000an artist? And I chose this path. Yeah. I guess you were as an independent artist, as a baby
00:08:38.380artist, right? You're like, if I, if I make a hard line about this, I'm going to cut off
00:08:43.440an audience. I'm going to cut off a group of people, a group of people is going to decide
00:08:47.840they're not going to listen to my, my music anymore because I made this particular song,
00:08:52.360or I have this particular post. And at a certain point, I guess you got to a place where you're
00:08:58.240like, okay, because, because the benefit and, and forget the benefit. I feel like you just
00:09:05.020got to a point where it wasn't even about negotiating who was going to listen. It was
00:09:10.240just saying what you needed to say. Yeah. It's, it's no different than like when you said,
00:09:16.700You know, I knew you through like your message and your voice, you know, and like the things you were saying and the music was a little bit secondary.
00:09:25.860That's on purpose. You know what I'm saying?
00:09:27.880Like, because the message to me is just as important as the music.
00:09:31.880And it's not just about the message or the music. It's about both of them and the movement behind it all.
00:09:37.680So, you know, when I see the people who are like, I'm going to make a video about this today, actually, because I was thinking about it yesterday.
00:09:42.780but people are always saying and i'm starting to see like three or four videos a week right of
00:09:46.980people talking shit or you know saying they hate me or whatever and they always say you know like0.96
00:09:51.880oh guy only uses politics to push his music or he said or they say well he figured out he could1.00
00:09:56.640pander to the left why the fuck would i make all these videos to people who already know what i'm0.91
00:10:00.860talking about that's the thing i ain't pandering to the left i'm talking directly to you and the0.95
00:10:06.320only reason you don't like it is because i'm finally holding up a mirror to you that's right
00:10:10.880so that's right and that's what a lot of people because a lot of people will say similar things
00:10:15.300to me and and what they're not understanding is not am i not only am i trying to hold that
00:10:21.300mirror up but i'm trying to do it in a way because i know just like you said at the beginning there
00:10:26.740are a group of people that are horrible i'm never reaching out i'm never getting them over i'm never
00:10:31.940having a good discussion i think and i believe that the vast majority of people are good yeah
00:10:39.780lovely individuals that want the best for themselves, their families, their community,
00:10:45.220their country, the world, they want that. They want that. And I think their fear and their
00:10:51.360insecurity and their lack of education, I don't mean that in a stupid kind of way. I mean that0.98
00:10:58.600just, we can't be educated about everything, right? And people have weaponized that and really
00:11:04.020driven something home. And the only way we reach back out and make sure everybody is at least
00:11:09.420getting the information in their head to make their own choices is by keeping the door open,
00:11:15.300by keeping the conversation open. There's very few people that I wouldn't sit across from,
00:11:20.620you know, in order to have a debate, in order to have a discussion,
00:11:26.760because I think that's where important conversation lie. And that's what music can do,
00:11:33.220right? And that's what you so powerfully can do.
00:11:37.760Yeah, that's exactly right, especially in country music.
00:12:01.740Because nobody else is going to, right?
00:12:03.780So like for me, that's where like it's not just a burden, but it's a responsibility to be able to talk to these people about things that they otherwise may not learn about.
00:12:13.280And I tell this to my friends all the time. It's just like you said, you know, like in a perfect world.
00:12:16.540Yeah, you should be able to have some kind of faith, level of faith in your government that they at least have your best interest at heart.
00:12:22.100But the truth is right now they don't. So it is up to us.
00:12:26.800You know, like people shouldn't have to go work 60, 70 hours a week and then get on their phone at night when they're trying to spend time with their families and have to look up headlines.
00:12:33.340and like read articles and educate themselves on research and studies and shit like that they
00:12:37.520shouldn't have to do that but at this moment i think it is important that you take a little bit
00:12:41.760of time even as on an individual level to be like hey is what i'm consuming or is what i'm
00:12:46.580is what i'm reading and seeing seeing true and is it fact-based or is it fear-based
00:12:53.260yeah so i think first of all incredibly important but i also think it's funny you say you don't
00:13:02.100know if it's our job to be doing that. And I'm thinking, it's exactly our job. I'm thinking
00:13:09.800that in a democracy, as a person in a democracy, as a parent, as a citizen, that if you are not
00:13:19.640going to make an educated choice, an educated vote, an educated stand, you are not serving
00:13:26.460democracy. Democracy isn't something where you just go off and sign a ballot once every four
00:13:31.540years democracy is an active process and if you're not going if you're choosing because i do think
00:13:37.220this is a reality in today's day and age right people can choose not to be educated those people1.00
00:13:43.300i call stupid you're that's a choice you have chosen to remain stupid lots of people are ignorant1.00
00:13:48.740of stuff we go out we learn about it we get better we then can make a decision if you're choosing to1.00
00:13:53.620be ignorant you're choosing to remain stupid that's on you yeah but everybody else you do0.99
00:13:59.780I think, have an obligation because it's at your fingertips now. You don't have to go to university1.00
00:14:05.720for four years. You don't have to output tons and tons of money. You don't have to go find an
00:14:11.380incredible academic library in order to have access to this stuff. You turn on your damn phone or you1.00
00:14:17.160turn on your computer and you can have. Now it's a matter of choice. Now it's a matter of choice.1.00
00:14:24.380How educated do you want to be? Because I do think it's our responsibility.
00:14:29.780And I think sometimes we got this flipped up, right?
00:14:32.140I think we look to the government way too much because I've stood in the room with a
00:14:54.940yeah and they have their own personal interest at heart as does everybody else so in this democracy
00:15:02.900in any democracy it has to be your job and now in the last let's say 15 years you have access like
00:15:10.180yeah you went to university for a couple years and then you and then you dropped out you finished
00:15:15.220you did whatever you did because you're like that's not for me i don't like that form when
00:15:18.700it comes to my musical it doesn't mean you stop getting educated yeah no and i think that's the
00:15:23.320thing like i think the more educated i got and the more like personal responsibility i've bared to
00:15:30.420um seeking truth and finding answers the harder it became for me to keep my mouth shut and not
00:15:37.560write about it and things like that so um you know i think i relate it back to like
00:15:42.840we use our ignorance as a shield to bury our heads in the sand and say well i didn't know that right
00:15:50.820because we didn't want to know you're choosing to willfully not know things like I mean I think
00:15:56.420it's uh you know funny where we talk about like you know I'll have personal conversations even
00:16:01.760with people in my personal life that disagree with me and we'll talk about immigration and stuff and
00:16:05.400I'll be like you know what the whole Alex Freddie situation you know they'll say something like well
00:16:10.720he didn't deserve to die but you know he showed up looking for a fight basically I don't know why
00:16:14.960would have done that it's like okay if i took you and that mindset and put you back in 1955 when
00:16:21.840medgar evers was um shot or when emmett till was lynched would you have just said well maybe emmett
00:16:28.160till shouldn't went into the store that day you had it coming and you know that's the thing like
00:16:32.480the law is the law you said these people say um you know comply and none of that stuff will happen0.99
00:16:38.640right so should rosa parks gave up her seat because it was the law that she should have
00:16:42.480you know and that's what i'm saying like sometimes things are laws are meant to be
00:16:48.300broken one and two i think that you know these things if you just say well you know they should
00:16:55.900have just went to the ballot box or something like that well they weren't even allowed to go
00:17:00.260to the ballot box until the 19 late 1950s early 1960s you know what i'm saying like some people
00:17:06.720weren't so that's why women for example you know weren't allowed to go so were they supposed to
00:17:11.600just stay home and let the men finally decide. I can tell you if that was the case, they still0.99
00:17:16.620today wouldn't be able to vote. You know how I know? Because it took until 2022 for the federal
00:17:22.500government to make lynching a federal crime four years ago. That's wild. That's wild. Four years
00:17:29.240ago. So that's what I'm saying. If you're leaving these things to the government and you as a person
00:17:37.360don't bear any personal responsibility to bring change throughout your own communities and your
00:17:40.900own life. And then, you know, on a federal level, then you're choosing to bury your head in the
00:17:47.060sand and say, well, I just didn't know. Well, you shouldn't know. You know what I'm saying?
00:17:52.020I think a lot of people, yeah, I think a lot of people want it to be easy. And I constantly play
00:18:01.320devil's advocate with myself, right? About the personal responsibility. And I constantly think
00:18:06.760about a person who's trying to take care of their family, struggling to meet ends meet, maybe working
00:18:11.300more than two jobs in order to make that happen. Maybe somebody in their family had to go through
00:18:16.020some medical treatment in the United States and heaven forbid, like what that looks like.
00:18:19.940And the idea of this person having to have the same sort of responsibility and accountability
00:18:26.040to then, you know, challenge when, when things aren't going right. I understand that. And I
00:18:31.780understand people being fearful of what's next, being fearful of the chaos that is about to ensue.
00:18:39.780But what I say then is that there's a bunch of people with a lot of privilege.
00:18:44.660Yes, exactly. Lots of privilege. That is exactly the point. Being able to say,
00:18:50.500like, well, you know, I just didn't know about that is being able to say, well,
00:18:54.820the system was built for me. And people say all the time, like, well, in the grand scheme of
00:18:59.620the things, I just want to be left alone, right? Well, yeah, of course, everybody just wants to
00:19:03.380be left alone. But here's the thing. If you're being left alone comes at the price of your being
00:19:07.820left alone comes at the expense of someone else's depression or oppression, then you're right. You
00:19:13.420don't get to be left alone. That's right. And I think we, again, I've done so many deep dives,
00:19:24.160a lot of them into US history. And we talk about what's going on right now as though it's this
00:19:30.160major shift. And I think what's incredibly, the reason why I do that isn't a lot of people think
00:19:35.400I'm just trying to bag on the United States. It's not really about that. It's really about
00:19:39.740understanding a pattern that's always existed and a pattern that we need to fight to rectify.
00:19:47.280Because prior to the last 15 or 20 years, gaining that information and gaining that knowledge was
00:19:53.760incredibly difficult it was contingent upon the rooms you sat in and the money you had and the
00:19:59.060schools you could go to or not go to and the places you could travel so everything has shifted
00:20:04.720it doesn't mean that we negate history it means okay let let's look at the u.s constitution and
00:20:10.980what it actually does and when it's actually failed and what are the crevices or what are
00:20:16.480the cracks in the foundation of a document that was written in 1776 well 1783 like that's wild
00:20:24.620to think there aren't things we need to fix not simply add-ons right somebody does a joke in one
00:20:31.040of their comedy specials about um you know jefferson sitting around going what you haven't
00:20:36.400fixed it you haven't done much of it and you just added some stuff on y'all thought that was going
00:20:40.460be good forever that doesn't make any but now we have such incredible divides between the left and
00:20:47.260the right such insane divides that they can no longer sit together and decide how do we take
00:20:56.300care of how do we make this okay what does this look like in order for a better future because
00:21:03.120they're trying to consistently jockey for power it's you know washington said you're gonna have
00:21:08.280political parties, you're going to mess up the whole system. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's
00:21:12.300where like the, you know, the divide is real. You know, when I think about that, like, because
00:21:19.020there's a lot of people, like, especially in my hometown that literally won't talk to me anymore
00:21:24.460because I'm a crazy radical leftist. Right. And I'm like, dude, I'm not that much different than0.80
00:21:30.960you. You know what I'm saying? But that's where I'm like, to me, it's so much more a class war
00:21:35.700than it is right versus left and we're seeing it in broad daylight with like you know like the
00:21:41.500epstein files and everything like that there's people from both political parties incriminated
00:21:45.280in that stuff and that's where like you know i think the um that's almost where i think like
00:21:52.380leftists are a little bit closer like the far left and not the far left but just the left
00:21:59.280in general terms of like who they support as candidates they're a little bit closer
00:22:03.380than even you know liberals are and stuff like that because we like as as the liberal party
00:22:11.840still has faith that the the democratic system or the democratic party in place
00:22:16.880is better than the alternative and i would agree that yeah it's like better in the sense that like
00:22:23.820a chicken salad that is two days old is better than eating dog food but still dangerous yeah
00:22:32.980it's still still not very good yeah you're still gonna get sick from it right so i mean like
00:22:38.740like i get that but that's where i'm saying like this this movement is much more important i think
00:22:44.480because the older we get i think the the and the more things like the epstein stuff that we see we
00:22:50.260have to move into supporting candidates that are for the people and that don't take billionaire
00:22:56.120money and that don't you know take a whole lot of things from a whole lot of like corporate
00:23:01.060lobbyists and things like that. But it's hard. Wouldn't that be a great defining characteristic?
00:23:09.960Now, it's very hard. I constantly try to figure out ways to legislate our way around the pitfalls
00:23:19.180that you're describing. And every time I try to figure out a way to legislate around it,
00:23:23.020all I can think about, but if the system of capitalism is such, and I'm a communist when I
00:23:28.300say this. But if the system of capitalism is such whereby we are now in a place of capitalism,
00:23:34.280which I believe is kind of post-capitalism, because the competition, real low.
00:23:38.840Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's not free market. Yeah. It's not free market.
00:23:43.080Right. But you have this huge graph of billionaires acquiring all of this money and
00:23:51.580wielding all of this power by the things they can purchase. And I say something to the effect of,
00:23:56.680well, now politicians who are running can't take money from billionaire ABC and go on down the
00:24:02.960list. Let me be real clear. They're going to take money from them somehow. They are. There's going
00:24:09.140to be an agreement that's going on because of the power that they wield, because of the capital
00:24:16.140we've allowed them to accumulate, and what that capital means to how you can change the system.
00:24:22.500I read the other day that they're talking about AI and what AI is going to do, and somebody, heaven help me, it might even have been Musk, saying something to the effect that you had an AI judge rather than the adversarial system in the courts.
00:24:40.340And I went, oh, okay. So on side A, you're taking away a person's ability to purchase and wield
00:24:51.040the economic structure because if I can afford 10 lawyers and you can afford two,
00:24:57.700I'm going to potentially win in that battle. And if we just put everything in that sort of category
00:25:04.880and allowed somebody to look at the law, look at the law, and it's not personality,
00:25:08.820it's not skin color, it's not class, none of those factors get to play in. Then you start to go,
00:25:15.380oh, that would be amazing. And then you start to remember who sets AI, who owns AI, who can wield AI.
00:25:24.240And then you're like, now what? And I can't quite wrap my head around it.
00:25:31.060But if I'm constantly trying to figure out ways to get money out of the system,
00:25:35.160i don't see another way around it other than getting money out of the system yeah yeah that's
00:25:43.260exactly my point is that like you you know like i would consider myself a democratic socialist but
00:25:48.000like people are so afraid of the word socialist that they don't understand right that that they
00:25:53.600they don't understand they're like dude i'm trying to help you out too you know like everything i
00:25:57.600talk about mostly is in root of like someone who represents a working class part of the system
00:26:03.120Right. So, I mean, like, you know, people of color mostly represent working class families, you know, you know, people in small towns mostly represent working class families.
00:26:14.760So when I think of socialist programs like universal health care or, you know, you know, we have them now, even police departments, fire departments, things like that.
00:26:23.680I think that those are those systems are to benefit us, not necessarily the billionaire class. And that's why I call myself a democratic socialist. Right. So, I mean, like, and I'm not saying it's total redistribution of wealth.
00:26:38.120What I am saying, though, is that a billionaire shouldn't get to not pay any taxes while people that I know work their ass off 80 hours a week should have or have to pay 25 percent of their yearly salary.0.93
00:26:47.500you know it's fucked like and that's the world we live in in america because they are able to
00:26:54.700do those things and and you know what what astounds me so much is that in the 80s we figured0.98
00:27:00.680out or we tried trickle down economics with ronald reagan sure and at the time people still think
00:27:06.280that worked right that's what i'm saying people still think that's the thing exactly that's what
00:27:11.140i'm saying we tried it and we said hey well nobody's ever done this let's try it we tried it
00:27:16.080And then for 50 years, it's been crippling us. And they still play on the fear of like,
00:27:22.080oh, dude, if you don't give billionaires all your money, then they won't be able to pay you anything.
00:27:27.140And they're going to leave. They're going to leave, right? They're going to take...
00:27:32.000I was just talking about this with my students about where Amazon chooses to go in different
00:27:37.620towns. I'll tell you where they choose to go. Whatever municipality says, you don't pay any1.00
00:27:41.740property tax here. Come on, move in. You employ 15,000 people. That's amazing. That's all the
00:27:47.320tax base we're going to need. And no matter if you only employ those 15,000 people, let's say
00:27:52.320for the next 10 years till everything's fully automated and you're making all the money and
00:27:57.020we have no mechanism to tax you or to hold you economically accountable for the oppression that
00:28:03.960you're then going to be instilling, now we have a problem. And nobody's willing, and I think this
00:28:10.160the biggest problem nobody has a 50-year plan right nobody can have a rational future plan
00:28:19.040because you're in government for four years at a time if you don't get it done in four years
00:28:24.400or get something done in four years and impress somebody in four years you're out now whose fault
00:28:29.600is that that is us yeah that is us think you can fix the environment you can fix human rights you
00:28:35.680you can fix immigration law, you can fix labor law. You can't do any of that in four years.
00:28:42.340The only thing I can do in four years is take away a little bit of taxes. So you have maybe
00:28:47.060an extra like Canadian government right now is saving families, let's say on the top end,
00:28:52.160$1,000 a year. Great. What is that costing us when it comes to the social programs? And forget
00:28:58.820the social programs if you're telling me you can give me back that thousand dollars
00:29:04.900and we our roads are horrible our infrastructure is horrible our health care is deteriorate all
00:29:10.660of these things forget it put it into anything that's going to build say i was going to give
00:29:16.660you the thousand bucks back but if i give you the thousand bucks that back then i lose 200
00:29:20.500billion do you want me to do something with 200 billion or do you want your money back right
00:29:24.740Right. But we have to trust that not just government A is going to do it, but they're going to follow through.
00:29:31.520Yeah. For the next. Right. And like, that's the thing, like there is so much distrust, you know, like especially in small towns.
00:29:39.700I see it all the time. You know, people come up to me and they'll be like, dude, you just want to give all your money to the government and stuff.
00:29:44.520And the government hates you, blah, blah, blah. And to their defense, like there is some level of discernment that I have for the federal government having my best interest at heart as well.
00:29:53.860It's just that I do think that Democrats have more, or at least the left side of the aisle has more of working families' best interests than Republicans do.0.99
00:30:04.860I think Republicans are really good at selling you on the idea that they do, but they actually don't give a shit, you know?0.99
00:30:10.340So, like, that's where, like, Donald Trump is the greatest con man to ever live.0.99
00:30:18.900And like the way that he was able as a billionaire who's never stepped foot in a working class person's shoes, the way he was able to con them into thinking that he was representing them should be studied for years.
00:30:35.100Yes. And my thing is, is like we have to be able to collectively see that for what it is.
00:30:42.080And until we get people on the left side of the aisle who are willing to say, stand up and not just give them a bureaucratic answer to why Donald Trump is a bad person, but say, fuck you, you're a piece of shit.1.00
00:30:58.860So I think I remember the moment I know Dave Chappelle speaks about this in his stand up and, you know, when he was running against Hillary and he stood up against Hillary and she's talking about his taxes and he doesn't pay taxes.
00:31:09.420and he says something to the effect of you want to change the tax law your husband was in power
00:31:14.560for eight years he did the opposite actually and this is a hundred percent true a lot of people
00:31:19.360blame the 2008 housing crisis on the deregulation of the bill clinton administration yeah he allowed
00:31:25.820all of this money to flow back and he allowed all of these loopholes for taxes again and again and
00:31:31.600again you want to point out that i didn't pay my taxes yeah i was playing by the game you set
00:31:35.680yeah now here's the funny part he called her out he was right it was true but everybody inferred
00:31:42.580the second part that voted for him everybody inferred in their heads they made a leap that
00:31:49.420that meant he was going to fix it yeah let me be real clear the man never said he was going to fix0.99
00:31:54.760it he just said this is bullcrap she is a hypocrite all of which was true yeah i think his base just0.98
00:32:05.480assumed yeah that he was gonna change it and then he never and then he never did obviously because0.99
00:32:10.800why would he if he's the one benefiting from it you know absolutely you have no impetus to do that
00:32:15.760whatsoever right and that's where like like i said for me it's much more about like it's much
00:32:21.660more about like like holding up a mirror to these people and saying look dude this is what's
00:32:26.840happening you know yeah and like you can either get on board with it or not but here's the here's
00:32:32.660the facts. These people hate you. And that's what I'm saying. You've got to start supporting
00:32:36.700candidates who finally give a fuck about working class families. And, um, it's harder to do because0.97
00:32:42.080I mean, people, especially with the MAGA movement, that's why I say about Donald Trump, I think he's
00:32:45.760been detrimental because the mindset and mentality that he's given to people is, or at least brought
00:32:52.860out in people is very, very hard to unravel. I think you're starting to see MAGA kind of crumble,
00:32:59.160But that whole MAGA movement was, I mean, airtight for a long time, you know, or at least in political years, a long time. Right. So it's going to be hard to kind of break those walls down. And I think that Donald Trump himself is doing a good job of breaking down those walls at the moment, you know, with, like I said, the Epstein thing.
00:33:21.140And then like, so, you know, he just does shit that like, obviously a working class person who has any level of education can be like, what the fuck are you doing?0.99
00:33:28.860You know what I mean? Like suing the IRS for $10 billion. That's taxpayer money. Like going straight to him. And everybody's kind of starting to see that and be like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? So I think that.0.99
00:33:39.760I often think of, thank God, you know, these people that are just like a Donald Trump guy
00:33:49.940that, by the way, is just plating out a playbook that's already been described and built over the
00:33:56.100course of the years anyways. I constantly think about, thank God he's not actually smart.
00:34:01.900Thank God he's just really good at what he does, which is getting to where he was.
00:34:07.040because and you know donald trump and his his boys probably not watching our podcast however
00:34:13.520so hopefully they don't take this as an idea yeah you know what would have changed everything forever
00:34:18.380what's up had he taken that epstein list and blanket arrested people yeah i mean from both
00:34:30.540sides of the aisle i mean go right that lutnik standing right next to you put him in handcuffs
00:34:36.660go on tv and say that's who i am because if you think for a second donald trump cares about any
00:34:42.360of these people that he doesn't yeah the only the only offset is what they know about him
00:34:48.080but to be honest i don't think it would matter i don't i unless it's it's somebody has him on video
00:34:54.400unless you know it would have to be insurmountable for him to get on tv and said i saw how many times
00:35:02.880he was in it he's gone he's arrested and i'm instructing and and anybody who makes a mistake
00:35:10.820when it comes to this cash patel getting up there saying it was nothing if donald trump had just
00:35:17.000taken a different line he could have solidified himself yep solidified because then i really do
00:35:23.560worry about a third term yeah could you imagine if he actually created the mechanism to arrest
00:35:31.640fine the clintons but also let nick and also you know gates and also muscular care all of them
00:35:38.940yeah everybody in handcuffs going down being deposed put it all on tv make it that's the
00:35:46.600sign of a genius now thank god he's not that smart i yeah i think it's probably right i think
00:35:52.460it's probably a little bit that he's uh not that smart but i also think it's probably that he's
00:35:57.420incriminated in him as well so he's afraid you know if i go if i just think of how many things
00:36:02.000he's yeah think about what he's admitted to already right and that's what i mean like think
00:36:07.480about what what he's already overcome yeah that's why i think you're you're seeing like the the
00:36:14.680epstein thing isn't as big to a lot of people as it seems because especially in small towns because
00:36:22.200they already knew he was a moral morally corrupt corrupt person and they were good with it yeah
00:36:29.440that's what i'm saying like they're like even even to uh you know the extent that they think it's all
00:36:37.060they either one knew he was morally corrupt and they're okay with it or two they think it's all
00:36:43.000a weaponization against donald trump and it's nothing more than that right sure so like the
00:36:47.460E.G. Carroll stuff, you know, like when he got or found guilty by a jury, you know, of sexual
00:36:53.740assault and things like that, they said, well, that was just a targeted attack. That's a
00:36:57.660weaponization of the justice system. Right. And so like, it's absolutely crap. It doesn't,0.94
00:37:02.520that's what I'm saying. He's on tape. Like, they're like, oh, well, that's fine. Boys being
00:37:07.340boys. I mean, you would think there's certain things that happen along the way. And, and I,
00:37:12.020and you go oh he's done now no no no his popularity gains yeah i mean the the point
00:37:20.540in which you know i was uh 18 or 19 years old i think 19 but anyways the like i honestly didn't
00:37:29.560think that donald trump was like a bad idea until the access hollywood came out when i was you know0.98
00:37:35.580in 2020 2015 and i was like that on the bus thing that one yes i was like this motherfucker cannot0.99
00:37:42.340be president you know what i'm saying yeah like this is fucked up but nobody else thought that0.99
00:37:47.620and i was like what are we what are we doing you know what i mean like are we is this are we taking0.98
00:37:52.920this fucking serious anymore or not and then obviously here we are now and so i'm like you0.83
00:37:58.940know how how it wasn't the last straw how any of these things weren't the last straw for people0.92
00:38:04.800is beyond me but that's why i said you know like i think that it was my responsibility to start
00:38:11.860being loud about it because that's why i think like maybe we just weren't maybe we didn't feel
00:38:16.100or we didn't make racists feel bad bad enough about themselves and that's the point i'm at0.90
00:38:21.480right now because i fucking can't stand them to be honest with you i mean i i think like0.96
00:38:26.660i think we've been too tolerable of people saying ignorantly racist things even you know0.98
00:38:34.600like people that don't know they're being racist when they say something or
00:38:37.380people that don't know they're being sexist when they say something,
00:38:39.540because I've done that too. But I, you have to have, you know,
00:38:44.660when I had people surrounded by me in my life that would say, Hey dude,1.00
00:38:49.200that's fucking racist. Or, Hey, that's, you shouldn't fucking say that.0.99
00:38:53.540You know what I'm saying? And it doesn't happen overnight, but you know,0.98
00:38:56.380I'll be like, shit, I didn't know that was racist, but that you're right.1.00
00:39:00.420That was fucking racist of me to say. Right. You know? And so like,1.00
00:39:04.060or homophobic or whatever it is you know like things like whatever it's like it's like
00:39:09.200but these people aren't surrounded by people who would do that so like that's where i'm saying
00:39:14.780like maybe it was on me that i i live in these spaces with these people and i think this way
00:39:20.380and i didn't say shit for a long time you know what i'm saying so maybe now it's my uh or not
00:39:27.380maybe it is it is my responsibility to be able to sit in these spaces and be like hey that's0.99
00:39:33.460fucked up. And here's why, you know what I'm saying? Like, you should want to be a better0.98
00:39:36.640person. Does it make you fucking, that's why I want to say to these people, does it make you0.98
00:39:39.840fucking feel better to think that you're better than an immigrant? Because truthfully, that's how0.99
00:39:44.820you feel. Like at this moment, it makes you feel like you were better because you were lucky enough
00:39:49.480to be born. Yes, it does. And I think what you talk about holding up a mirror, and I think what
00:39:56.380this administration has done and has proven, and even when it comes down to the disgustingness
00:40:02.880of of and by the way the the whole he's not the only one he wasn't the first this is a historical
00:40:11.360reality of abuse and ownership and it's it's it's not just in this era it's not just now
00:40:19.520but i think holding up this mirror that you're talking about for some people when the mirror is
00:40:25.200held up i think they want to feel what he's done is he's make them he's instead of uh belittling
00:40:33.680and making them feel smaller for those he has big them up to say well that's how i think and
00:40:39.600i'm a billionaire yeah so you can't be wrong that that when we talk about the these files and what
00:40:45.840we're ignoring and how nobody's really talking about it nobody protected these women nobody0.71
00:40:49.920listen to these women i like to point out as disgusting as hard as this to listen to what
00:40:55.560goes on in everybody's personal families yeah how many uncles have been excommunicated from the
00:41:01.280family but nobody took them to court nobody put them on trial how many times have we swept it
00:41:07.520under the rug because it's personal family business and we're not going to talk about that
00:41:13.100we're not going to nobody's going to go nobody's going to admit to that nobody's going to the
00:41:17.820police about that. We're going to pretend like it never happened. And then we're all pissed
00:41:21.740because I do think it's projection that this is going on in an elite level. Meanwhile,
00:41:27.200people have been protecting abusers forever. Yeah. Forever. Yeah. In their community.
00:41:35.080Yeah. It's not new. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's the thing, like,
00:41:39.860that's why like i always say you know like i bear some responsibility to not speaking up
00:41:49.000sooner you know because i mean there were i mean i'm young but at some point in my life
00:41:55.400there was a time where i was like i'm not going to touch that right yeah i'd see it and i know0.99
00:41:59.900it's fucked up but i'd be like hey my fucking business well the truth is it is our fucking0.99
00:42:04.680business and like that's the thing like people think i hate america when i'm starting to speak0.99
00:42:09.080out about all these things but i don't like everything i say is in root for my love of the
00:42:15.780idea of america right so i mean like that's the thing when this country was founded america made
00:42:22.140a fucking deal with us and i think me speaking out of the on the injustices and the abuse and0.97
00:42:28.280the things that we see is me holding america accountable to the deal she fucking made1.00
00:42:32.620and making sure she holds up her end of the fucking bargain0.97
00:42:35.300so well in the end of that bargain and this is what people and i don't know if protest is the0.96
00:42:43.120way to do it to be perfectly honest um but like physically protesting because i i feel as though
00:42:50.240in this particular context it's elevating tensions in order to elicit a national guard
00:42:56.140or a military response to be to be honest however i think that you know people need to
00:43:04.340understand that it has to be their job, that when we say the deal that we've made, and I know I'm
00:43:10.500Canadian, but the same deal, the power that we've given has been given with consent under certain
00:43:17.740conditions. And if those conditions aren't being met, then it is our job, our responsibility,
00:43:25.020our constitutional right to hold them accountable, to hold it up to the light,
00:43:30.520And to fight for that change. And if you're not doing it, if you're not doing your part, whatever that part is, and by the way, I think everybody's part gets to look different. I don't think that everybody needs to be writing country music. Nobody wants to hear me sing. Not everybody needs to be a teacher. Not everybody needs to be a politician. Not everybody needs to be on the protest line. You have power in your world somehow. How are you wielding it?
00:43:54.540Yes. And the more people take that on, the more you realize that the the beauty of a country is the people demanding justice for people, not being scared into demonizing a group to benefit the rest.
00:44:13.400that's fascism that exactly that's the that's the point i make to like even even my friends is that
00:44:19.280like look i can have conversations with you in these spaces and we can come to like disagreements
00:44:26.180that we or agree to disagree on certain things without me conceding that human rights are a
00:44:32.540non-fucking negotiable that's right you know and like that's the thing like i can have those0.88
00:44:37.380conversations with you and you can say oh well you hate me just because i disagree with you no i don't0.97
00:44:41.300hate you because i disagree with you we're not disagreeing i think morally you have an internal
00:44:46.980problem with you individually you know what i'm saying if you if you view certain human beings as
00:44:53.120being less than because they were not born here or that they don't deserve due process which is
00:44:59.120a constitutional right or for anyone on this land or that they don't deserve to um not have their
00:45:06.580door kicked in without a judicial warrant those are the things that are non-negotiable to me
00:45:11.940that where in these conversations it's not me disagreeing with you and it's not me begging
00:45:17.920you to see it from my side it's me telling you that if you don't if you morally don't believe
00:45:23.460in that then it's your problem not mine you know so i think there's also a no go ahead go ahead
00:45:31.280right no you're good i think there's also a problem with
00:45:38.480the idea that my life's hard my life sucks right now yeah can be a very significant trigger yes
00:45:49.920people with significant problems and if i can somehow say it's the guy it's the guy that snuck
00:45:56.080in to the country next door he's the guy i'm gonna fix that for you i got your back and i'll bring
00:46:03.360your jobs back and i'll uplift everybody just listen to me it's not a bad person that necessarily
00:46:10.880believes that historically we have always been the most fearful the most damaging the most
00:46:18.320aggressive towards new people in our worlds in our hemisphere in our community that's always
00:46:25.840we're always afraid of the things we don't know yeah always so if i because i'm constantly trying
00:46:32.480to figure out what do we do what do we do next right how do we do this next um not necessarily
00:46:38.880who did the bad thing i can't we can't spend so much time there pointing fingers saying you're
00:46:43.960horrible forget it what do we do next and the next to me is always about human beings coming
00:46:52.220together and getting to know each other yeah for sure always that is always what it's about
00:46:58.380so instead of and i and i again i protests have its own issue for me i mean i i studied the
00:47:06.100vietnam war protest didn't end that freaking war it's not what happened everything's oh the height
00:47:11.060of protest movements. It did nothing. What stopped that war was y'all were about to lose in 1975.
00:47:17.600Nixon says, we're out. We're out of the war. So we have to develop programs. The Democrats want
00:47:25.100to do something, in my opinion, start passing, start educating, start talking about who came
00:47:33.120from what country. Talk about asylum laws. Talk about what due process looks like. Talk about
00:47:39.200how easy that is and talk about it so people can frigging understand you right don't talk about it
00:47:45.760no you're you're exactly right the the the i i say i'm gonna make a video about this too but
00:47:52.300like i say all the time i know things like systemic racism exists because for so much of
00:47:58.600my life as a white male i didn't right so like uh throughout my life i didn't even know who i
00:48:06.820I never in school once learned about who Emmett Till was.
00:48:09.780I did not know Emmett Till existed until 2022 when they finally passed that law and it started getting on social media.
00:48:16.780I didn't know until I started really talking to like getting outside of my hometown when I went to college and had friends from city areas and urban areas that were people of color.
00:48:27.500I didn't know that people got pulled over in rich neighborhoods for driving around at night.
00:48:34.780Yeah, I didn't know that people of color were harassed and asked for their papers and their IDs for speaking Spanish in public while being brown.
00:48:45.160But those those experiences do exist. And the reason that I didn't know them is because the system was built for me.
00:48:51.580Right. And so that's what I'm saying. Like, I know it exists because I didn't know about it. Right.
00:48:58.620But think about that as well. It took me until I was 20 years old to learn about one of the most famous, horrible, disgusting, vile lynchings of all time in American history took place. That is insane. That is insane that it took me that long to be educated about that specific person.
00:49:23.580in school systems we are failing students because we we continuously try to hide history and you're
00:49:32.960seeing it now this is why another reason i can't stand donald trump you're we are continuously
00:49:37.560trying to hide history from people to be educated about it so that way they can repeat it yeah
00:49:44.600that's the thing everybody's like oh it's bad bad if you repeat history it is but the people in
00:49:49.480power want to be able to repeat history. Exactly. Donald Trump is so he can play on your fears.
00:49:57.480If he can, if he can convince you that illegal immigrants are trash and animals and coming for1.00
00:50:01.900your way of life, you know what they said about black people in the 1960s? They're trash and1.00
00:50:06.840animals and coming for your way of life. Yes. So it's always, yeah, it's always the minority that1.00
00:50:13.520has all of this significant power. It's wild that 12% of the population, we're talking about
00:50:18.600african-americans has such incredible power over over your country but what i will tell you about0.98
00:50:24.640what i will say is this we don't need to educate the minorities they know they know that's what1.00
00:50:30.680i'm saying yes you're exactly right that's why i always say they're like oh he's pandering to the0.99
00:50:35.260left no dog i'm talking directly to motherfucking you i'm just don't know yes do you think i need0.98
00:50:41.340do you think i need to come out here and speak to women about the importance of having uh or of0.99
00:50:46.300women being able to have access to healthcare? Fuck no, they already know because they don't1.00
00:50:49.920have access to it. I'm talking to you because you don't know because the system was built for you1.00
00:50:53.920and you've never had to experience it. Absolutely. And I think that the more we,
00:50:59.840that's the, so when, when we are talking, it's not about a lying people who already believe
00:51:06.780in me and what I have to say, it's about getting them, it's about seeping it in, right? It's about
00:51:12.520getting it into people's heads so at the very least they go home and they go that one thing
00:51:18.120that joanna said really pissed me off and all of a sudden they're on their phone google looking it
00:51:23.080up yeah that's it i just need one thing to squeeze into your head even if even if that one thing
00:51:31.080you're you're looking to prove me wrong go ahead try to prove me wrong yes i'm probably wrong lots
00:51:36.360i'll be wrong lots in the future go ahead try to prove me wrong wrong and then let's have a
00:51:40.440a conversation about it because in the process it's going to squeeze in your head and you're
00:51:44.720not even going to know what got in there and all of a sudden you're going to look at things in a
00:51:48.480little bit of a different way yes so when you say change it has to be educational yes you want to
00:51:56.220pour money into anything education yes and that's why like all these institutions are left-leaning
00:52:03.260there's a reason yes they got smarter yes they could see a system for what it is they're not
00:52:10.640looking to a cure and and and negotiate power they're looking at the facts not your feelings
00:52:18.440which i think is a hilarious spin on what you know an ultra religious movement now which is hysterical
00:52:26.220poor real christians out there with him rocking this we hate it like some beautiful christian
00:52:32.680people now have to be associated with this guy who can't even read half the time i've pretty
00:52:37.320much gotten to the point as a christian where i stopped calling myself a christian i say i follow
00:52:41.180that's that's and you know what it's again i'd like religion in general obviously is is when
00:52:48.900it's a personal faith it's beautiful yes when it's a weaponized policy i don't care what religion it
00:52:55.540is it should be banned that's it you i have friends that are the most beautiful religious
00:53:01.520people and they talk to me about their faith and i think it's gorgeous i don't share it but i
00:53:05.920i'm like what a lovely thing what a lovely thing to have in your heart i'll tell you what they're
00:53:10.840not doing they're not walking around trying to kick out immigrants they're not using bible verses
00:53:16.280in order to oppress and undervalue and take things away yes they're not doing that with
00:53:22.420any religion right like whatever religion we could possibly be talking about you know what0.96
00:53:27.220the argument is to that in small towns and i can prove it in fucking 30 seconds they'll say1.00
00:53:33.16030 seconds they'll say well this country was founded on christian values false the fucking0.99
00:53:41.480pledge of pledge of allegiance of the united states of america did not have under god in it0.98
00:53:46.840until 1954 when the and same thing within god we trust on our currency yes it did not happen
00:53:54.540until 1954 because they were trying to combat communism. And the whole idea behind it was
00:54:01.460communist countries were godless nations. So we didn't want to become that. And we were so scared
00:54:06.860of becoming communist that we put God in everything because Christian nationalists told
00:54:11.180us that, hey, if you become a Christian, then we'll never be communist. That's right. And it
00:54:17.080really is relying on something when you can't argue. And again, I'm not coming at anybody's
00:54:22.560But when you can't argue fact, you use supranational ideas and belief systems that are about scaring you when you're not even on this planet anymore in order to wield and manipulate your current mechanism for the way in which you're going to treat people or the way in which your country is going to be run.
00:54:44.300If your primary goal is to uphold human rights, I don't know a single religion in its authenticity, in its roots, that that isn't the first goal.
00:55:01.400And as soon as it's not, I'm calling that religion a cult.
00:55:05.420I'm saying that religion should be barred.0.98
00:55:08.100get rid of it. If your first goal isn't to make people feel like they're protected1.00
00:55:13.840and they're supported, then that's not your job. That's not what you're doing.
00:55:19.920True Christianity has been hijacked by these Christian nationalists, and it will be the
00:55:25.060destruction of the Christian religion. Because that's what I'm saying. Christianity throughout
00:55:29.300history has been corrupted by people who are ultra-nationalist people. So when people say,
00:55:34.180like, you know, well, Christianity is just like my personal relationship or whatever. I agree with
00:55:41.740you. I think that's great. It's the same way for me. Here's the thing. Jesus, our own Christian,
00:55:46.760or like when I talk to Christians, our own God and our own, our own savior, Jesus Christ tells us to
00:55:52.760feed the poor, heal the sick and treat the immigrant as ourself. Correct. That's right.0.99
00:55:56.480And they're like, yeah, in James, James. Yeah. James 2, chapter 14 through 16 says faith without works is dead. So if we as a Christian religion aren't doing anything to advocate to help feed the poor, heal the sick and stand up against injustice, then we are dead. We are faith is dead. And that's another thing. People will be like, well, you don't follow the whole Bible. You just cherry pick it. Yeah. Here's the thing.
00:56:22.280I cherry pick it for my side because I understand that the Bible is probably not 100% correct.0.98
00:56:44.920And you want me to tell you something?
00:56:46.140If your entire faith only comes from a book that can be easily disproven, like people living to be 600 years old or that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
00:56:55.440If your religion and your faith is only contingent on that book that can be easily disproven, then your faith isn't strong at all.
00:57:09.540And the funny part is, I don't get into, because I know a lot of people say, the Bible said this, the Bible said, and I'll very, very clearly say, any religious text, when it did have a place in society, is when we didn't have a way of living and an ethic and a morality that was outside of that, because we didn't have the education and the awareness to do so.
00:57:36.580we lived in the land of superstition. As soon as we moved on from that, the idea of a secular
00:57:42.740democracy, because I don't think a democracy exists if you have a religion top-down exerting0.86
00:57:48.080force on it. And we've had that in this country, in Canada, in the United States for a very long0.99
00:57:53.140time. If you can't live and you can't come up with what's moral and ethical for today,
00:57:59.240and your only judgment your only reason for judging anything is what happens after you die
00:58:07.480you're not moral and you're not ethical bingo you're scared one yes and you're being manipulated
00:58:13.560yes that's it and that is your way someone can take advantage of it that's where i'm saying
00:58:19.760that's what may not speak out because dude when i saw like when i saw that my own fear
00:58:27.220of not speaking out was condoning and complicit in where the direction of which we saw the0.99
00:58:33.060country going, I said, fuck that no more. I cannot be fearful of not speaking and not0.99
00:58:39.720at least educating to my best ability in my own spaces for fear of losing the things that I have
00:58:48.120gotten, material things that I have gotten. None of them are as important as being able
00:58:54.660to live in a society and a land that is free for everyone in it.
00:59:01.760Honey, on that note, I'm going to say thank you so much, so much for finally sitting down with
00:59:07.480me. I'm so happy that we finally could make this work. I want you back anytime you want to come
00:59:12.580back. Can you tell everybody where to find you, what you have coming up next, all of those great
00:59:17.740things before we get off here? Yeah. So on March 6th, we're releasing a new single called Are We
00:59:22.340great yet it's bangs it's gonna be so good love it already yeah and then um launch an immerse store
00:59:29.640and everything soon but you can find me anywhere on socials at brian andrews music and then look
00:59:33.980me up on anywhere you stream music at brian andrews and it's a little bit of country a little
00:59:37.960bit of rock and a whole lot of protests coming up so oh i love it i love it thank you so much
00:59:44.820for being authentically powerful and thank you so much for taking the power that you have and
00:59:50.720the awesome talent that you have and using it as a force in this world thank you so much sir
00:59:57.280thanks for having me and for everybody listening thank you for hanging out with us for this hour
01:00:01.660and i'll see you next tuesday same bat time same bat channel dismissed