Unlearn16: Class is in Session - April 08, 2025


The One Where Get Shameless And Vote

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The One Where I Make Democracy Behind The Scenes The One Where My Grade 8 Class Questions Jagmeet Singh

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00:00:00.960 class is in session hey everybody and welcome to unlearn 16 class is in session today guys today
00:00:10.000 all the way from vancouver i have of tick tock fame shameless l first of all i'm only gonna ever
00:00:18.000 talk i'm only ever gonna call you shameless l just so you know like if we meet in person 0.68
00:00:22.320 if we have dinner you're in my phone that way that's it that's your new name i'm okay with 0.97
00:00:28.160 that and you know what most people call me shameless or call me l that shameless l they're
00:00:33.200 all good i i like it i think it's a great moniker um can you tell so everybody who's listening right
00:00:40.000 now they i'm sure they know you from tick tock can you just give a a brief description on who
00:00:45.520 you are how the heck did you blow up on tick tock and what are you like what what's your focus like
00:00:50.480 what's your passion um well i started the world problems too just at the end yeah okay i started
00:00:59.600 the same way that most millennials did it's not it's not a you know great origin story you know
00:01:04.000 lockdown was boring and uh somebody had shown me tick tock i think just like two weeks before the
00:01:10.240 lockdown and so there i was sitting in my house bored nothing to do looking at tick tocks and
00:01:15.600 And, you know, one day I just thought, oh, I could do that.
00:01:19.660 You know, I could do that.
00:01:21.220 Why not?
00:01:22.100 And so I started making videos and I started making lip syncs, which were awful.
00:01:27.060 And I think I made a few and then I like, I showed some friends and you're kind of like
00:01:32.780 showing them and they're looking at and you're like, you know, waiting for their good reaction.
00:01:37.120 And then they're like, oh yeah.
00:01:40.360 Okay.
00:01:40.920 Anyways, what are we going to do?
00:01:42.240 And you're like, oh, okay.
00:01:43.180 my friends called and asked me if i was okay i know yeah my friends made so much fun of me
00:01:50.420 they used to call me talk talk well but it was the lip syncs because i i went full in shameless
00:01:56.660 i went full in to the point where i bought guitars i was performing in public i was downtown
00:02:02.540 in the middle of the streets doing you know jesse's got a gun um it was full out i it was
00:02:09.900 all in all i we would search out and i would search out venues and little cool areas where
00:02:15.580 we could do certain songs that's amazing i i did not do any of that i'm not musically talented so
00:02:23.420 that was not lip-syncing i don't i'm sorry did you think i know how to play the guitar
00:02:28.540 no no no i purchased a guitar from best buy so i could fake play the guitar okay but i wasn't even
00:02:36.060 faking music i was faking like will ferrell and uh i wasn't singing no i wasn't singing i know i
00:02:47.340 can't sing at all that was not no yeah but then uh anyway so i i moved on from that and i started
00:02:54.060 making um like uh content like i was telling stories about my life and then i heard somebody
00:03:01.260 really close to me and i thought you know what i'm not going to do that anymore and so i switched
00:03:06.700 again and i started um just kind of doing some silly goofy things and only talking about me
00:03:12.860 um yeah and then that just kind of took off there was one day that i drooled over
00:03:17.980 thor the lumberjack and that went super viral and then everybody just wanted me to be thirsty so i
00:03:24.300 was thirsty um how did you come around to politics then if you're just drooling over thor one day
00:03:35.420 well if i'm being honest i i was bored uh also like how long can you do the same joke and drool
00:03:42.540 over men for you know before you're like okay i've done this yeah um and so in my personal
00:03:49.180 life i was i was heavily invested into the uh trump and kamala election in the us i was watching
00:03:56.060 every many of every minute of it and i i was so invested in kamala i i thought for sure she was
00:04:03.020 gonna win and when she didn't i i think i cried like i was just i was so taken back that she
00:04:09.980 didn't win many times since yeah yeah yeah and so when it came to our election and seeing the the
00:04:17.180 similarities between pierre and trump i just honestly felt scared for my life so i just thought
00:04:25.180 you know what i'm gonna do what i can with the voice that i have to to to say something to try
00:04:31.820 to break down politics in a way that's easy to understand for people like me that that don't get
00:04:37.820 it you know right and so that's what i do i spend hours researching and then i get chat gtp to
00:04:45.500 explain it to me like a five-year-old and to me i explain it to everybody else and they love it
00:04:52.540 well i mean but that is i mean that is the brilliance people ask what's the brilliance
00:04:57.180 of ai you've just described it that's the incredible power actually of ai if people
00:05:03.180 were using it for good rather than for you know i don't know making tom cruise look-alikes i think
00:05:09.340 we could have a real shot at revolution if everybody was using it the way that you are
00:05:14.700 you know what i'm saying you have to be so careful with it though you can't just like you can't just
00:05:20.540 research with it because i started off using it for research and like like asking it questions
00:05:25.580 and lots of times it gets it wrong so then i started doing my own research using like the
00:05:31.020 actual you know policy websites uh government websites making sure that i had really looked
00:05:37.020 into it and then when i didn't understand something that's when i would take it a copy
00:05:42.220 it put it into chat gtp and get them to explain it back to me so that i really understood it
00:05:49.180 you're just i'm gonna i'm gonna tape well i am taking this taping this i'm gonna show all of
00:05:53.260 my students because you're explaining the perfect way that i talk about using it actually in class
00:05:58.940 the way you should you can use it as a starting point you could use it as a as a filler you cannot
00:06:04.620 use it for the actual thing because if you use it for the actual thing it's pulling it's deriving
00:06:10.300 from the whole internet and if the whole internet isn't completely factual and perfect and it's not
00:06:15.900 then how on earth could the ai be factually um correct for the most part so that i think that's
00:06:23.240 a perfect idea so what was your first politics thing that you did was it about harris and trump
00:06:28.900 was did you start talking about or were you just invested in that point
00:06:32.120 you know i have such a terrible memory i'm i'm not sure i remember what my exact first
00:06:40.000 post was i'm trying to remember um i think it was canadian and yeah i posted uh i posted about
00:06:48.080 something what i do remember is how much hate i got i got so much hate overnight and i lost like
00:06:54.720 7 000 followers uh right away in the first 12 hours and i just i sat back and i was like whoa
00:07:02.880 like is this what i'm in for like politics is this divisive and this um angering i i sat down
00:07:10.160 for about three days and i just i froze like i didn't know what to do and i just i kept listening
00:07:17.600 to my angelou she's like my my motivation my everything i love i love her so much and um i
00:07:25.760 just kept listening to what she had to say and she just said you know what if you don't stand
00:07:29.520 for something you stand for something all for your values and your your courage are the only thing
00:07:36.800 that will keep you true to your values because if you can't be courageous about your values
00:07:42.560 your values mean nothing wow so so you got all you don't and you don't even remember i think
00:07:49.520 it's funny you don't even remember what the video is about but you got like all of this i don't
00:07:54.720 you know what there's some power in that do you understand how powerful that is
00:07:57.760 it gave you pause it made you check yourself it made you double down on your values and what you
00:08:04.520 think is important but you're smart enough to go don't care about what the video was because it
00:08:09.940 doesn't matter no the hate you got wasn't about your video the hate you got was about either one
00:08:16.920 of two things their insecurity or their ignorance those are the two things you will get hate for
00:08:23.020 Now, a good debate is a good debate.
00:08:25.320 There's lots of people who disagree with me.
00:08:27.280 That's not, hey, you can tell me I said something wrong and you can give me other information.
00:08:32.140 That's not what you're talking about.
00:08:34.040 What you're talking about are painfully insecure people who are very, very afraid of losing some element of control.
00:08:42.520 So that's what you're up against.
00:08:44.080 It doesn't even matter what your video is about. 0.92
00:08:46.480 Well, it was that, but it was also people were so used to me being silly.
00:08:52.440 were so used to not having any kind of um educational uh anything from me that it probably
00:09:00.200 blew a lot of people away to see me talk about something passionately that i cared about um
00:09:06.840 you know and and they and there's a lot of people that didn't like it you know especially if they
00:09:10.280 didn't like what i had to say or they didn't agree with me that's when they threw out you know what 0.98
00:09:14.520 stick to your dumb videos stick to being silly stick to not knowing anything because that's who 0.98
00:09:21.160 you really are you know stuff like that because people take what they know of you and they make 0.99
00:09:27.640 that everything right but it isn't everything a lot of us have stuff that we we do outside of our
00:09:34.040 videos well and everybody does right and i and i i don't joke i actually say you got to be careful
00:09:40.840 what you get famous for because especially on an app like this um within social media you know
00:09:47.320 there's well you know you you stepped into it all of a sudden you get all of the this kind of this
00:09:52.920 followership you get all of these accolades you get all of this attention and that that can shift
00:09:58.440 very very quickly but funnily enough they really like you people tend to really like you in a in a
00:10:06.680 niche and i think that actually goes into a lot of the stuff we're going to talk about in a little bit
00:10:12.760 which is the fact that people like to know what to expect that's why people like stereotype you
00:10:19.400 know there's one thing that i'll say about it though is that if you are going to stay in one
00:10:25.880 small box for the rest of your life you will be very bored and i've never ever been able to stay
00:10:32.600 bored and the one thing about me that i've i've i've realized is that if i'm going to grow as a
00:10:40.520 person um my channel is gonna grow with me and everyone else that doesn't like it can get
00:10:46.360 because i'm gonna do what i want it's my channel and i don't give a whether you liked my niche
00:10:51.560 before or now or or whenever it is if you don't like it scroll or block me um but i'm gonna do
00:10:58.120 what i want because this is my life absolutely yeah and i think well i mean and you can see by
00:11:05.640 the popularity you have still amassed i think people will eventually roll to that what i mean
00:11:11.320 by by people people like stereotype and people like boxes because people get complacent in their
00:11:19.880 lives and in their world views and they just want to surround themselves with things they know
00:11:25.880 and when you enter into when you put something in front of them that they don't know or that
00:11:30.600 challenges what they used to think it innately it immediately takes them aback makes them feel
00:11:36.600 uncomfortable and that discomfort can be handled either with rage to get rid of it or introspection
00:11:42.920 in order to sort of move on with it and i think that's what we're facing right now to be perfectly
00:11:49.080 honest that's what this election that's what the election in the united states is about
00:11:53.760 and that's what this election is about i don't need to talk about people in positions i don't
00:11:59.540 need to talk about Pierre. I don't need to talk about Mark. To talk about the idea that
00:12:04.000 there's a group of people who just want things to go back the way they were, like they were in 1982.
00:12:12.480 And they have a sense of embedded nostalgia when they rode their bikes until the lights came off
00:12:19.460 and just their dad worked. Although all of these things, all of these nostalgic things that they
00:12:28.260 think existed, let's be honest, were dangerous, destructive, and for the most part, trauma-ridden
00:12:34.320 anyways. But we have a belief system of what it was. And so you have politicians that are going
00:12:41.780 to play on that, especially in times of insecurity, especially in times of great change.
00:12:50.340 And what the internet has done, what TikTok has done, what social media does,
00:12:53.780 it really rattles underpinnings real good. You know what I mean? It really, really shakes
00:12:59.980 everybody's stability. And when you shake that stability, some people roll with it and other
00:13:08.040 people want a turtle and they want to go back to what was and what was protected. And that's the
00:13:14.080 battle we're talking about right now. Why do you think he's talking about tariffs from 1913?
00:13:18.240 it doesn't make any sense right the good old days of what segregation it doesn't make sense
00:13:26.180 no right and i think honestly that is where he wants to take things i think he wants very much
00:13:32.220 to go back to the old ways um but you know the one thing that i i do want to say about
00:13:37.820 taking that risk and going outside of your niche because a lot of creators are very scared to do
00:13:42.980 that my account while it did have this initial drop immediately it was 12 hours and after that
00:13:52.220 12 hours it rose and from one month ago to today my account on tiktok grew a hundred thousand
00:13:59.120 followers my account on instagram grew a hundred and sixty thousand followers uh and my account on
00:14:05.680 facebook grew i think 40 000 followers so while you will suffer that loss and you will you know
00:14:13.320 have that initial pushback when you feel strong about something go with it people will support
00:14:20.420 you and it's again that's not just about social media guys these are life lessons let it be known
00:14:28.400 this isn't just about how you are on social media this is how you are as a person and if you're not
00:14:34.800 willing to grow and expand and do what you're passionate about, right? If you're not willing
00:14:40.200 to follow those lines, you're not going to grow the way you're supposed to grow, regardless if
00:14:44.620 it's your follower account, in your own personal life, in your own relationships, in your own job,
00:14:50.040 all of the places. If you're not willing to roll the dice and expand who you are and open up
00:14:56.440 different possibilities of your character, what are we wasting time here for? And this has been
00:15:02.560 true again and again in my life every time that i've taken a big risk almost all of my friends
00:15:09.520 and all of my family said no don't do it don't do it no that's not what are you doing you know
00:15:14.800 it was always that question it was with tick tock it was with my first business and i've turned
00:15:19.440 those around and actually made myself quite successful doing them and ignoring those it's
00:15:24.800 one thing to listen i always listen and i always hear them out but in the end i do what i want to
00:15:30.320 to do. Absolutely. But that's huge. That's massive, right? And I really think the way that
00:15:38.020 you're attacking politics now, and we had a time to chat a little bit on a live, but the way that
00:15:45.780 you're attacking politics and you're being incredibly open and honest about the fact,
00:15:50.220 listen, this isn't my wheelhouse. This isn't my wheelhouse. It wasn't my wheelhouse. It needs to
00:15:56.040 be. And this is how I'm going to attack it. And this is what I'm going to learn. And then I'm
00:15:59.440 going to share it. I mean, what? And I really want to get at this because probably my biggest
00:16:07.240 level of frustration is the 90, it's not the people that voted for Trump. It's not the people
00:16:13.080 that maybe voted for Doug Ford. It's the majority who waited and sat at home and didn't vote at all.
00:16:20.700 It's the majority who said, this isn't for me. I'm not into it. I don't understand it. I don't like
00:16:27.080 it. I don't think I have an impact in it. So I'm not going to worry about it. And I'm going to
00:16:31.480 abdicate that responsibility. Those are the people where I'm like, what, what are we doing?
00:16:38.640 Why are we doing that? And you did the opposite. Why do you think you did the opposite?
00:16:46.020 I mean, honestly, that those people are my entire goal. My goal is to make politics bite-sized,
00:16:53.260 to make it easier, to explain it in a way that makes it palatable and entertaining
00:16:58.540 for people like me. Because until this year, I have never voted. The first vote that I've ever
00:17:05.580 placed was for Mark Carney in the liberal leadership race. And I have never once voted
00:17:11.720 in a federal or provincial or municipal election. And it was Trump and Harris? Is that what shook
00:17:18.500 you awake what was that was it yeah and it was it was the fear i think you know uh until this
00:17:25.960 i have always taken our freedom and our safety for granted and this was the first time that i
00:17:32.560 thought oh my god like we're we're literally pedaling backwards and there's no way that i
00:17:39.680 am willing to go backwards sitting quiet and the other thing i think that spurred me on was the
00:17:46.180 deportations in the U.S. because I have many immigrant friends, many, many that are still
00:17:54.100 in the middle of getting their permanent residency. And I just watched all of these 0.93
00:17:58.500 immigrants in the States be deported and sent to places that aren't even their country to prison
00:18:03.580 and they're not criminals. Some are, but there's some that aren't. And I just thought if that
00:18:11.060 happened in Canada, I would never be able to look my friends in the eye and say that somebody with
00:18:17.880 a voice with my platform just didn't do anything. I just could not. So it was the fear of peddling
00:18:28.500 backwards and going back in time to a place that I don't want to be. And then just the fear of
00:18:35.700 seen these kind of deportations and horrible things happening to immigrants in Canada?
00:18:42.200 I think the moment Roe versus Wade was overturned, I remember when that was going to the Supreme
00:18:47.720 Court for the whatever, seventh time or whatever, Anna asked me, she's like, do you really think?
00:18:52.780 I'm like, no, there's no way. It's not going to be overturned. It's never going to be. And my
00:18:57.460 confidence, my overdeveloped sense of confidence in the judicial system, in the rule of law,
00:19:04.740 in precedent was just like, oh, oh no, did they just quote the Bible in order to justify?
00:19:13.580 Did they, is that in the ruling? And then I stepped back and went, oh, oh no, that can't happen. So I
00:19:21.060 think it was that moment, not Trump's election, not the deportations, but I think it was in that
00:19:26.520 moment I realized that nothing is sacrosanct. Nothing can be forever protective if we're not
00:19:33.120 willing to protect it no we have to actually stand up first i'm sorry about my sneeze
00:19:37.940 oh you didn't oh okay i'm sorry you're gonna have to sneeze again is it one of those weird
00:19:45.600 you don't actually sneeze you i i'm sorry i thought you see me
00:19:50.420 like what what's your situation yeah that one i don't have a loud sneeze you should let it out
00:19:58.880 i don't even i didn't even know you please okay i was walking and i wasn't looking so i didn't see
00:20:03.840 you sneeze i'll have to play that back next time i'll try to aim for you know snot all over the
00:20:09.840 screen yeah i i have a friend who holds it in like sneezes but i think is gonna have an aneurysm
00:20:17.600 i'm like what are we doing here just sneeze oh god yeah you know and i think there was there
00:20:25.040 was one friend that actually she had said something to me that was it wasn't actually in relation to
00:20:29.680 politics but i relate it so much to you know the fear that women especially go through when they're
00:20:38.080 wanting to talk about these things and that is bicycle face bicycle face was um something that
00:20:46.160 was invented by men uh back when the bicycle came out in the 1800s and when the bicycle came out it
00:20:53.120 was the first time that women could actually leave the house without a man to escort them without them 0.98
00:20:58.640 to drive them so women could now meet and and have women's suffrage meetings they could meet and
00:21:04.400 get together and um do things on their own and it was a first for them and what happened was
00:21:10.080 men started to realize that this was very threatening because women could do these things
00:21:15.600 and they could go and have these these meetings on their own and so what happened was they invented
00:21:22.400 bicycle face and bicycle face was characterized by sweating a hard clenched jaw uh you know
00:21:31.840 out of breath right so basically all of the basic um symptoms that happen when you're being
00:21:38.720 active and um hard flushed cheeks and they said that this was very unattractive and they posted
00:21:45.760 about it in the papers they posted about bicycle face and that women needed to not ride bicycles 0.94
00:21:51.280 anymore and they needed to get back in the kitchen and um of course women fought back against this
00:21:58.240 but the thing is is that now in today's world we often are the ones telling ourselves that we have
00:22:05.280 bicycle face we're telling us to sit down we're we're not being strong and we're not fighting
00:22:11.520 back against these things um but this is this is what happened this is absolutely true you can go
00:22:18.400 go and look it up. Did you do this TikTok already? Did you do it? This is the best thing ever. I've
00:22:24.960 never heard of this a day of my life. I'm going to talk about tomorrow at school. Bicycle face.
00:22:28.540 Bicycle face. When in Olympic time, when women wanted to be ski jumpers, 1.00
00:22:37.120 the doctors told them they couldn't be ski jumpers, you know, like those big, long ski 0.63
00:22:40.940 jumpers, you know, where they're in the air for however long. Because they said when they landed,
00:22:45.340 their uteruses were going to fall out. Oh my God. This is, these kinds of things happen over and 1.00
00:22:52.220 over again in, in society. And this is why we cannot go back. We cannot go back to days when
00:22:59.540 women were supposed to just sit in the kitchen and sit silently and smile with their partner. 0.98
00:23:04.200 And, um, yeah, yeah, it's, it's wild. The things that used to happen that we don't even know of.
00:23:09.840 Well, and I mean, I used to feel as though, you know, when people would talk about, you know, this sort of regression of women's rights and all of this kind of stuff.
00:23:22.640 And now you look around at who makes up his cabinet and who has the top podcasts in the conservative world and the kind of ideals that they're promoting and pursuing and saying with their full chest. 0.90
00:23:37.320 As women, by the way, stand right behind them and clap as they talk louder and louder and louder, it's astounding how quickly things can recede if you allow them. It truly is. 0.89
00:23:51.920 Yeah. And I'll tell you guys, and this is for your viewers as well, because if anybody's like me and wanted to go and see the breakdown under every different critical area like housing, workers unions, health care, gender, gender rights, LGBTQ rights, reproductive rights, I have done a full breakdown.
00:24:16.600 I worked for five, six hours today on breaking everything down into a palatable slide that you
00:24:25.720 can go and look at each section of a comparison between the liberals and the conservative
00:24:30.400 government and Mark Carney specifically and Pierre Polyev specifically. And the one thing
00:24:36.160 that I will say that I had to call a couple friends on that I found very, very interesting
00:24:41.420 is that you can go so there is two websites for there's one for mark carney and then there's one
00:24:47.520 for the liberal party so if you go to mark carney.ca on his website right on the home page is
00:24:54.100 all of his plans it'll say health care plan housing plan all of those and they're all clickable links
00:24:59.080 that you can go and see a very detailed description of what his plan is on how he's going to run on
00:25:05.060 these things. And then I looked for a website for Pierre
00:25:08.920 Polyev, there is not one. So the only website that there is, is
00:25:12.580 the conservative website. And then they have a section on
00:25:15.260 Pierre Polyev. And, and then I looked everywhere for his plans,
00:25:20.880 I could not find any plans, I searched over and over and over
00:25:25.300 again. And then finally, I have a discord with a bunch of
00:25:28.800 political creators, and I messaged them all. And I said,
00:25:31.140 is there plans for Pierre Polyev somewhere on this website, I cannot find anything. And they said,
00:25:37.700 no, there is no plans. There is no plans whatsoever from Pierre Polyev. So the only
00:25:43.460 thing that I could go on were statements. And there's a section on the conservative website
00:25:48.740 that say statements. And these are from his speeches that he's done over the years. And
00:25:55.540 in there it's literally and this is no lie it is like a full page of just liber the liberal decade
00:26:04.020 the carny trudeau liberals the liberal liberal like and and then like two lines we're gonna ax
00:26:10.900 the tax yes and this is not to be hateful towards the conservative uh party this is just the literal
00:26:18.900 truth. They do not have any plans put out whatsoever. All they have is one or two line
00:26:25.520 statements on stuff they're going to do with very, very little, uh, in the way of details
00:26:30.920 on how they're going to do it. And that was very telling for me, but if anybody wants to see those
00:26:37.080 slides, they can go to my page on Instagram or on Tik TOK and I've put them all there.
00:26:41.840 You guys can go and screenshot them and look at the differences between them. And I've broke it
00:26:47.060 down really like as best I can. Fantastic. I just, yeah, I did a very long podcast today
00:26:54.240 with Stacey Green talking about different platforms and what everybody's saying and
00:26:59.900 the reality, and this has always been the reality of conservatives and except, I mean,
00:27:06.800 Brian Mulroney's, if we're going to go further back, Brian Mulroney's conservatives were very
00:27:10.440 different. But I find the conservatives tend to talk specifically about money. That's what they
00:27:17.880 talk about. And I was saying this to somebody the other day, I said, there's two kinds of people in
00:27:23.220 politics. And I really believe this to be true. You have an individual who thinks a balanced economy
00:27:28.560 and a healthy economy is going to eventually produce a just society. And then you have
00:27:33.960 individuals who believe you have to have a just society in order to produce a sustainable,
00:27:39.500 balanced economy. That has to come first. And those are your two different components, right?
00:27:46.260 I would argue, obviously, the left leans to the latter and the conservatives lead to the former.
00:27:52.500 Problem is, and I've said this time and time again, running a country isn't running a business.
00:27:58.520 It's not the same. The comparison is flawed. You do not run a country. Technically,
00:28:06.740 if you were running a country or if running a business like a country, you would try to save
00:28:12.080 all the people failing in your company. That would be your primary job. Your primary job would be
00:28:17.720 figuring how do you make everybody succeed and how do you take care of people that haven't.
00:28:22.700 No company is doing that. The job of a government is to take care of the society, is to have an
00:28:28.520 economic plan in order to do so. You're not making widgets. You're not looking for a bottom line.
00:28:35.040 you're not looking for a profit margin. To be honest, you're not looking for profits at all
00:28:40.400 because it should be at the very least an NGO or at the very best, right? You should be taking
00:28:48.420 every dollar that you make and putting it back into the thing to make it greater. Nobody should
00:28:53.460 be walking away with a dividend. So the idea of running a country like a business breaks my head,
00:29:02.680 First of all, I hate it when people talk like that. I hate it when people make those ridiculous comparisons. And then all you're going to get from that party will be economic platitudes. That's it. They have no social justice, nothing. And if you go on his website, you see nothing. 0.98
00:29:21.520 yeah and there's a lot of people that will come back and quote well he has this in the policy he
00:29:27.220 has this in the policy but that's the one thing that you need to understand the difference between
00:29:31.800 because you will find policy declarations on the conservative website but you will also find those
00:29:36.740 on the liberal website what you won't find on the conservative website is a plan and that is very
00:29:42.400 different from policy because policy is basically something that exactly policy is the values and
00:29:49.220 policies that the um the the political party has voted on as a whole but it is not the plans
00:29:57.940 that that candidate intends to run on for the next four years and that is your difference
00:30:05.460 that's insane can i ask you you've talked a lot about liberals and uh in conservative party
00:30:12.180 have you looked into the ndp at all no because i don't think that they're gonna make any uh
00:30:17.380 any, any headway. You're just like, listen, I'm looking in the two top front runners and that's
00:30:23.940 all I, you're doing five hours a day. So all I have time for. I've, I had quite a few people
00:30:29.640 ask me, where's the, where's the NDPs? Where's the, the green party? The truth is they don't
00:30:34.080 have a chance. They do not have a chance of becoming prime minister. They, they may gain
00:30:39.460 seats, but they will not have any chance unless there is a massive turn of events. They are
00:30:46.420 sitting at 6% and 3%. And so why did I not break them down? Because I'm not concerned about them.
00:30:53.300 And also, I don't have another five hours to dedicate to going and trying.
00:30:57.160 I think what's interesting, and just to talk about it sort of as a reflection on the Canadian
00:31:06.560 system, what's interesting about our system that the Americans don't have is because we have a
00:31:10.820 multi-party system. In Canada, for those listening who aren't Canadian, we have the Conservative
00:31:16.820 Party, Liberal Party, NDP, Green Party, and the Bloc Québécois. There are five major, and I use
00:31:22.840 that term loosely for the Greens and the Bloc, but there are five major national parties.
00:31:28.520 Now, the reason why, though I still want to talk about those five, is because four of those
00:31:34.320 parties are left-leaning. The Bloc, the Green, the NDP, and the Liberal are all left-leaning
00:31:43.080 parties. The reason why that's so fascinating is because these four parties historically have
00:31:48.900 been splitting the vote of the left, whereas the Conservatives can sit comfortably, unless you're
00:31:55.500 talking about the Reform era and the Alliance era, because there was little splinter cells in the
00:32:00.280 reform in the conservative party as well, but they can sit and they can watch a splinter off
00:32:05.640 the vote. So a lot of people are talking about why is Jagmeet and why is the NDP losing? Like
00:32:11.600 they are, they're losing a lot in the polls and everybody thinks it's because he's done something
00:32:15.460 wrong. I don't believe that's the case. I don't, by the way, a lot of the things, the liberals
00:32:19.200 that are on the illiberal agenda, like dental care, like pharma care, like $10 a day daycare,
00:32:24.100 feeding care, those are all NDP platforms. Make no mistake. They were NDP platforms while they
00:32:29.380 were running a minority government. And the NDP could push those pretty hard, right? However,
00:32:35.120 people are seeing exactly what you're seeing. This is a two-horse race. And it needs to be a
00:32:40.320 two-horse race because if we split our vote and we vote maybe with a party that we like,
00:32:45.820 like maybe I do align more with the NDP or the Green, I'm just wasting my vote and I'm not giving
00:32:52.240 the best chance to Mark Carney and the Liberals to beat Pierre Polyev. May I say though,
00:32:58.420 this is really where strategic voting comes because if you are in a riding and you can find
00:33:06.660 your riding by going on to i'm going to do a little plug here smartvoting.ca if you go on to
00:33:12.700 smartvoting.ca and you go into your riding you will see who has the best chance to win and so
00:33:20.580 the top two so if it's conservative and ndp then it does not make sense to vote for the liberals
00:33:27.560 it doesn't make sense in that it makes sense to vote for ndp or or if it's green party it makes
00:33:34.120 sense to vote for green party but you go in and you look and you see who has the best chance to
00:33:39.080 win against the conservatives and you vote for them and so go to smartvoting.ca because we do
00:33:44.680 need to i i really think we need to vote more strategically because splitting our vote and
00:33:50.200 putting our eggs into four different baskets when conservatives are putting their their eggs into one
00:33:55.400 means that we are going to keep losing in ridings where we really shouldn't in ridings where
00:34:01.780 when you put all of them together when you put all those four baskets together we are the majority
00:34:06.500 so we should not be losing oh yeah the conservatives would never win if not for
00:34:11.460 the division of those parties not in canada anyways we're we're a progressive country
00:34:16.100 except for maybe in alberta here's my question you well that one time brian mulroney really
00:34:21.720 took the cake he took a lot of seats um do you think that but he was a red tory by the way
00:34:29.240 let's not forget he was he was a left-leaning conservative that tried to put indigenous rights
00:34:35.800 in the constitution workers rights in the constitution and elected senate in the
00:34:39.720 constitution i don't even know if he was a conservative i think he will use a progressive
00:34:44.680 conservative i think he was a secret liberal but we need people like that we need people like this
00:34:51.960 though we need left-leaning conservatives and we need right-leaning liberals which i would argue
00:34:57.880 that mark carney is a hundred percent mark carney is all right mark carney if if brian mulroney's
00:35:03.480 conservatives pcs were were in the house mark carney that's where he would be sitting and and
00:35:09.320 the reason why i say that is because we need somebody that is going to address the concerns
00:35:13.960 of the whole of the majority of all the people not just the concerns of the left not just the
00:35:19.880 concerns of the right we need somebody that is going to be concerned about housing and health
00:35:24.840 care and all of these things that you know the the conservatives are talking about and and taxes and
00:35:31.240 that is a concern it is it is a huge concern but we still from for me rights come first we need
00:35:38.120 everyone in this country needs to have their rights protected funny funnily enough i'm not
00:35:43.720 going over all the parties all of them nobody's really talking about that in a significant way
00:35:50.360 nobody's prioritizing that um and i find that interesting i think that's a bit reflexive of
00:35:55.720 of what's going on down south do you think that do you think that polls
00:36:02.360 are anti-democratic do you understand what i mean by that do you think that by us having such
00:36:10.280 significant polling you know here's where they are here's where the even the strategic even the
00:36:15.640 street i understand the reason for strategic voting i understand the reason for all of it i
00:36:20.200 get it yeah but do you think by telling people that the conservatives are way in the lead
00:36:27.000 or whoever it doesn't matter it is somehow informing and manipulating
00:36:32.840 and shaping the way or even if people are going to get out to vote?
00:36:41.320 In some ways, yes, because this is the same way that whenever pressure is put on,
00:36:47.680 people perform, right?
00:36:49.300 When there's no pressure, people don't perform.
00:36:50.920 And this is statistic that goes through so many different facets that people perform
00:36:58.280 when they are under pressure. 0.98
00:36:59.760 So when people start to see like, holy shit, we might actually lose this.
00:37:02.840 my god this is you know now they're talking to their friends now they're trying to get their mom 0.90
00:37:07.720 that doesn't vote now they're trying to get people to vote that actually um want to to keep things to
00:37:15.320 the left right so well i can agree with you in some aspect or i don't even know if that's what
00:37:21.320 you're you're saying or you're just posing the question um either way yeah yeah i still think
00:37:27.800 that everybody still has a choice to make right like whether whether that's being put out there
00:37:34.920 or not it does not um it does not take away anyone's uh ability to vote in the way they
00:37:42.040 want to vote if they want to be strategic if they want to um vote strategically that does not um
00:37:49.640 change their their ability to vote how they want it's it's a choice that they've made which is
00:37:54.440 Democratic. I just, I mean, I guess part of me is thinking more of Ontario's election. I don't
00:37:59.920 know how much you know about Ontario. We just had our premier reelected. Only 43% voted. And
00:38:07.520 the reality was, when you have 57% of the population not voting, yeah, sure, it was
00:38:15.040 winter and maybe they didn't want to go out, or they thought, well, he's going to win. So all the
00:38:20.340 polls say he's going to win. So I'm not going to bother. And in a same way, it's kind of what
00:38:25.800 happens. And you should understand this being in BC, you guys know the elections already been
00:38:31.660 called way before it gets out to you guys. And actually those polls close because you've already
00:38:37.940 seen the wave. You've already seen what's happened, you know, in earlier polls, in earlier time zones.
00:38:46.180 So when it gets to Alberta and BC, you're like, what's the point? We know which way the wind's blowing now. We have no control over that.
00:38:56.180 And I feel as though, and it might be symbolic, but I feel as though that kind of democratic disempowerment or creating quite the real conclusion that your vote doesn't matter at that point has got to pull people out of caring or out of feeling like they have a say or an idea, a game in the, you know, a card in the game at all.
00:39:26.180 but i would i would argue that that is a mint that is a mentality because that mentality exists
00:39:33.380 regardless of polling regardless of anything else there is people out there like me that truly
00:39:38.820 thinks my voice matters my my vote matters and then there's people um that just don't think
00:39:44.740 they matter at all which is who i was a year ago and um it it is a mentality and uh on top of that
00:39:53.860 i would just say like i i think having an option to look at the situation and look at where we're
00:40:04.660 where the left is putting into four baskets and the right is putting to one i would say that's
00:40:10.420 undemocratic that is a a situation where we are really um in a position to fail
00:40:18.900 and you what would what would your answer be for that um it would be rated ballots
00:40:25.700 ranked ranked ballots sorry yeah yeah yeah that's what i want to see that is the one thing that i
00:40:31.480 really think um the the trudeau uh government really let us down on we need and he says it's
00:40:39.000 his failure he says ranked ballot not changing the electoral system and not putting in elected
00:40:43.540 senate he says are his two biggest failures he admits that and i really like justin trudeau
00:40:48.740 But that part really, it let us a lot of us down because if we cannot get the party that we want, we should be able to have a say that our vote doesn't go just thrown away.
00:41:03.080 We should be able to put our vote to the party that we would prefer next.
00:41:08.460 I do think that, yeah, 100%, I think that that kind of rank ballot makes sense for the way that our government is structured.
00:41:18.220 for anybody who's listening who doesn't quite understand what we're talking about. So
00:41:22.160 obviously in the United States, you have two parties on the ballot. I know occasionally
00:41:26.160 you'll have an independent, but for the most part, just two parties. Whereas in Canada,
00:41:30.340 like I said, let's say in any given riding, you could have five parties on that particular ballot.
00:41:34.880 So rather than just putting who you want to win, putting the X beside, you will rank them. Who do
00:41:39.640 you want to come first, second, third, fourth, fifth? So that on average, when that all gets
00:41:44.580 played out and when all those numbers get calculated, we're left with a more clear picture
00:41:50.260 of what Canada wants as opposed to what they really don't want. So the extremes of the left
00:41:59.380 probably, or the extremes of the right, those will never exist and we'll end up with something
00:42:04.640 in the middle. I think that's what ranked ballots is trying to get at. And I think it would do,
00:42:10.960 in our kind of system, it would do a really good job of. You would just want to sort of limit
00:42:16.700 how many parties were eligible parties to be on that ballot in the first place. Because otherwise,
00:42:22.900 I mean, you could get into some craziness about how many parties you had to rank.
00:42:27.520 Yeah. And then basically what happens when you do that is, so say in your riding,
00:42:32.840 you vote on these candidates. If one of those parties does not reach past 50%,
00:42:38.780 percent then what happens is they take the party that has the least amount of votes they get rid
00:42:45.100 of that off and that all of those votes will then that their second choice will go to the next party
00:42:51.980 and if somebody doesn't reach 50 then then they cut off the the next party with the least amount
00:42:57.180 of votes and their votes get distributed to their next um favorite uh party so as you guys yeah so
00:43:04.620 So as you guys can see, it's kind of like, and again, for the Americans listening, it's
00:43:09.720 the difference between the popular vote and the electoral college vote is a similar difference,
00:43:16.600 not the same, than between the popular vote in Canada and how many ridings a particular
00:43:22.740 government or a particular party win.
00:43:25.780 So I could, if Shameless and I were running in opposite ridings and I win my riding by
00:43:31.060 90%. She wins her riding by 52%. We still get the exact same seat in the house of commons. 1.00
00:43:38.200 So the fact that 40 more percent of the people voted for me doesn't matter.
00:43:42.920 It doesn't matter at all.
00:43:44.200 To have 40 more percent. Why wasn't I the one that had 90?
00:43:51.560 On your show, you can win the riding.
00:43:54.080 Okay, fine. All right.
00:43:55.780 um but and so there's there's um a flaw in that system where we're talking about we're supposed
00:44:03.620 to have representation by population but but when the popular vote um doesn't necessarily
00:44:10.980 equate to the power that's won we no longer have representation by population we have a version
00:44:17.140 of that but it's definitely not perfected and i think that we should be working towards we've
00:44:23.380 we we've had these electoral systems for for you know hundreds of years we really should be working
00:44:29.620 towards refining them to make them more reflective and more um democratically clear than they were
00:44:38.660 you know 150 years ago i think it's about time and can i just say like the there's a really
00:44:44.340 good example and i can't can't remember for the life of me what riding it is is in but there is
00:44:50.100 is a writing in Canada right now that the Conservatives are at 30% and the NDP, the Green
00:44:58.560 and the Liberals are all rated about 21. And so when you add those together, the craziness is that
00:45:06.380 if the polls are correct, if nothing changes, the Conservative will get that seat at 30%,
00:45:13.780 percent even though 63 percent voted otherwise and don't want it and so that's where i say these
00:45:21.940 ranked ballots need to come in and that's where i say that having four parties for left-leaning
00:45:29.300 people is undemocratic that's our choice sets us up for failure that's the left's choice it is
00:45:36.100 the right has just figured out how to simplify and consolidate it is but this is where we need
00:45:41.700 to change something this is where something has to give because we are working against ourselves
00:45:48.580 so if if you are going to talk about what's coming up right now what would be your top priority
00:45:53.460 like somebody's going to say okay the election's coming up what do you think forget the candidate
00:45:58.820 for a second but what do you think the top priority of the federal government should be
00:46:05.300 one thing just one that's all you get
00:46:12.660 the top priority has to be donald trump and our our sovereignty yeah i think that is the number
00:46:20.900 one concern amongst canadians it has been pulled that that's the number one concern
00:46:25.780 and there's so many other concerns but you only gave me one and so that's what i would have to go
00:46:31.620 on yeah i i economy as well we need to figure out how to well the economy is tied with that i think
00:46:37.460 that's what i mean yeah those two things go hand in hand so you you would say you would look at
00:46:43.540 like somebody's tariff policy with how they're going to deal with the tariffs and how they're
00:46:47.860 going to deal with that i'm assuming you also want to look at how they're going to diversify
00:46:51.940 other economic revenues from canada let's say in the eu or other countries and something where
00:46:58.740 they're really still not talking about it enough in my opinion which is how do we bring down
00:47:04.900 interprovincial trade barriers and tariffs between provinces so actually they both put out statements
00:47:12.900 about that um and it is in their plan i just don't like their policies they they're not as good for
00:47:17.700 me oh okay oh i gotcha okay um oh we want to bring that down whoa whoa whoa what first of all and
00:47:25.060 i've been talking politics but what trade barriers what are we doing like there's a lot of trade
00:47:30.740 carriers but i mean not facetiously like how in the heck do we have limitations on what we can
00:47:38.820 trade with each other that are greater from what we can trade with the united states
00:47:43.060 why on earth are our energy resources going north south what are we doing what have we ever been
00:47:48.980 doing i mean so i did look into this and i do understand why some of them exist like they they
00:47:55.860 need to get rid of them i'm not uh for keeping all of these things but the reason why a lot of
00:48:01.060 these trade barriers exist is because a lot of these provinces are trying to protect their local
00:48:08.420 companies they're small you know local companies that cannot survive um when they are uh having
00:48:16.340 huge competition from massive companies it's the same way as when you know uh canadian tire comes
00:48:23.380 to town or or walmart comes to town and these small mom and pop shops go out of business that
00:48:29.540 is you know what they're fighting against in some cases and then in other cases it's just
00:48:34.500 the differences between our laws between our driving laws between our you know alcohol uh
00:48:41.460 different civil laws yeah see i i would argue that we need to have more national laws in order to
00:48:47.940 protect specifically protect within canada small mom and pop stores so that those big companies
00:48:54.820 can't come in including by the way because if we don't have these universally accepted laws
00:49:00.260 you can pretend as though you're going to protect a big against canadian tire but guess
00:49:03.620 you're not protecting against walmart what you've done is you've insulated yourself against canadian
00:49:10.660 tire, but not Home Depot. You're going to get picked off one by one. I guess that's my bigger
00:49:19.560 statement. My bigger statement is, as soon as the country was opened up to free trade,
00:49:23.900 as soon as free trade was on the table in any way, shape, or form, and we started talking about
00:49:28.800 North American free trade agreements and all of this stuff changing, all of that should have been
00:49:34.140 gone because they are going to get bought out. They are going to get usurped, and they're going
00:49:40.280 to get it done by these big companies coming from the United States. You see what I'm saying? It's
00:49:47.040 like, who are you going to sell out to? Yeah, this is true. I think it's definitely a big
00:49:53.340 barrier and it needs to go away. It needs to be removed. We need to make some huge changes in the
00:50:00.620 economy. And for me, I think this is why I'm voting for Mark Carney is because, I mean,
00:50:07.120 not only is he a globally recognized banker and economist, he is world renowned. There's really
00:50:15.240 very few in the world that could possibly be better than he is. He knows what he's doing.
00:50:21.680 And the way that he approached Donald Trump is something that took me a long time to learn
00:50:26.020 dealing with narcissists, is that if you don't put those boundaries in place and demand respect
00:50:32.260 at minimum, they will take everything they can, and they will never respect you unless you demand
00:50:41.080 that they do in order to have access to you. And what did we see? It was two or three weeks
00:50:45.880 and Donald Trump was calling. And all of a sudden he called him Prime Minister Carney.
00:50:51.800 Oh, and I think this is where Mark Carney has more than called his number. You know, as a banker,
00:50:57.660 as a businessman, I think he's looked at him and he's like, no, this is the only way that I will
00:51:03.500 gain any kind of respect from this person and be able to have any kind of seat at the table
00:51:10.980 when it comes to negotiating. And I don't think Pierre would have done this. I think Pierre would
00:51:16.260 have absolutely sucked up to him. No, no, no, no, no. He would have lost all of his credibility. 0.90
00:51:22.060 Yeah, absolutely. But on the Mark Carney front, what do you think about him eliminating those
00:51:26.980 uh i don't know if you've looked into this but he's eliminated cabinet positions i did that are
00:51:31.220 primarily focused on women and indigenous you know so i actually wouldn't say that that's um
00:51:38.100 necessarily true from what i looked into and maybe i'm missing something but i looked into
00:51:43.060 it quite extensively because i was very frustrated about that and on the outside it looks like okay
00:51:48.340 what the hell is he doing so number one because he didn't make his cabinet smaller for those yeah
00:51:53.380 So he took his cabinet and he made it very small. And this doesn't surprise me that he made it small and that he put these positions. So he didn't really just eliminate these positions. He put two or three positions into one to make it a smaller cabinet.
00:52:12.140 And then really, for the same reason that I said Donald Trump and our sovereignty, is because those are the things that are really coming first right now. Canadians want to feel safe. Canadians want to know that our country is safe and that we're not going to be invaded by America, that we're not going to become America.
00:52:34.660 and so I think Mark Carney is looking at the things that are priorities for Canadians right
00:52:39.880 now but I'm not concerned about uh he's he's taken a strong sense on reproductive rights he um
00:52:48.580 is all for abortion he has a daughter which I don't want to speak about too much that is trans
00:52:54.380 and he supported her changing you know changing that um and then also he is actually a very huge
00:53:01.360 women's advocate. So if you look at his work in the private sector, he has advocated for women's
00:53:06.780 rights again and again and again. And I laid this out in those slides that I told you about that are
00:53:11.600 on my account. So if anybody wants to go and look at those, he has been a strong women's advocate.
00:53:17.700 I think right now he's just very practical and he's saying this is what's important.
00:53:22.240 And so I'm narrowing down these positions into just a few and we're going to focus on what's
00:53:28.960 important. And when we get that done, then we can talk about other things.
00:53:32.980 And I think, well, I mean, he's also a fiscal conservative. I mean, he's very
00:53:35.760 conservative. There's no question about it. Just so everybody understands, cabinet post gets paid
00:53:40.120 more. So we all understand, like if you have a cabinet position, the money goes up. So there's
00:53:47.140 that in and of itself, right? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I don't think, look, I think
00:53:54.460 there could have been a way, because I think we're battling a bit of a cultural war here too.
00:53:58.960 So I would have preferred a bit more of a statement, not, you know, getting rid of all of them off the hop.
00:54:06.540 If you're going to amalgamate some, that's great.
00:54:08.620 You should have kept at least one, in my opinion, because it's when we talk about our culture and our identity and keeping, we're not just talking about physically being invaded here. 0.59
00:54:18.520 We're talking about the gradual insinuation of, you know, 1957 culture seeping into our very existence. And the way we're going to stop that isn't just by a few key statements and past behaviors. It's by making clear statements that this is something that is vital to who we are as a people. And I just, I would have preferred that a little bit.
00:54:44.940 But I do know that he's a right wing liberal and in a different circumstance, he'd be sitting on the other side of the fence.
00:54:52.620 Not to mean, by the way, again, there's lots of socially, sorry, fiscally conservative, socially liberal leaders who balance the two quite well, as we've already spoken about Brian Mulroney.
00:55:06.960 Not his son, obviously, but Brian Mulroney.
00:55:09.760 i will say though this man uh and i think you can tell from his speeches because i don't know if
00:55:15.600 you've ever seen anybody say uh more than mark carney it's so much he's not he's he's not he's
00:55:22.320 not a great speaker but here's what i'll say about him i'm giving better but it's hard i am giving
00:55:28.800 mark carney uh a minute this man has just came into being in the public eye 24 7 and even just
00:55:38.960 being a content creator the tiny amount that i have that and i live in a small town like i don't
00:55:45.040 i don't get like noticed often the tiny amount that i have that cannot be overwhelming sometimes
00:55:51.520 and uh and for him it's a very new position so i'm gonna try to give him the benefit of the
00:55:56.800 doubt because that's who i am that he just isn't used to having to explain everything that he does
00:56:04.960 And I think he's maybe doing things without realizing that people need to know why we need to know why you're doing these things.
00:56:13.840 And I think he's expected, you know, we expect from intelligent men and women who run this country to explain it well and clearly and and sort of on a basic level.
00:56:26.740 And I don't think he's had to speak about economics on a basic level in a very long time, if ever.
00:56:33.280 I think he's always been surrounded by people who are in that discipline, who are in that, you know, who have, who have grown in that academic arena. So to be able to explain, and I don't think he's doing a bad job.
00:56:45.940 My only bottom line a little bit is I am looking to be inspired. And I think when I think about
00:56:55.220 why 90 million people stayed at home and 57% of Ontario stayed at home, I think it's part
00:57:02.980 and parcel because of, you know, they feel ineffectual, they feel marginalized, they feel
00:57:09.000 unheard. All of those things are true. But I still think there's a minute, there's a part of us
00:57:15.580 that wants to be inspired, that is looking to our political leaders to lead.
00:57:21.840 You know, when you hear as many mistakes as I can point out that Obama made, when that man spoke,
00:57:29.260 you were all in, right? You were all in.
00:57:34.180 That is a great speech maker, though. I got to say, though, like the ability to give a fantastic
00:57:39.480 speech doesn't necessarily equate to a prime minister that is the best. In Barack Obama's
00:57:46.160 case, I would say it did. It's true. In this era, I would have agreed with you when Lincoln was
00:57:53.120 president. I would have agreed with you when Diefenbaker was president. I don't necessarily
00:57:58.500 agree now because inspiring and leading and how much access we have to these leaders,
00:58:07.680 you're gonna have to figure it out i think i agree with that though i do agree with that i just think
00:58:13.020 he needs a minute i think he needs a minute i do i you know everybody's gotta like shake off those
00:58:20.480 uh you know the dust and get into it uh i'm i'm a pollen farm i'd prefer all politicians to stop
00:58:28.760 reading from speeches stop it i prefer the teleprompter to go away i prefer every politician
00:58:37.640 who is going to run to actually face intelligent media questions and be forced to answer them
00:58:44.500 before they get down and not not deflect that's what i want to see that at the debate and i just 0.83
00:58:50.980 want someone i'll fucking do i'll say this to you guys right now i'll come to that debate 0.92
00:58:55.960 in montreal and i'll just point out every time they don't fucking answer the question answer 0.98
00:59:02.760 the question. And we don't have, we no longer have, we no longer have an empowered, fully 0.96
00:59:11.000 functional media that's capable of doing that. Instead, we have potential prime ministerial
00:59:16.800 candidates kicking reporters off the bus because he doesn't want to have to answer any questions
00:59:21.920 at all. And by the way, they weren't answering it anyway. You know, everybody's worried about
00:59:30.660 the AP getting kicked out of what? The White House? Who cares? What do they say anywhere?
00:59:36.560 What do they say there? What are you reporting on? Does she say anything but just parroting
00:59:42.160 what Trump just said? No. But it's, you know what? It is reporters' questions that make people think
00:59:47.340 twice. So whether they respond well or not, whether they deflect or not, it now puts that
00:59:52.780 question in people's heads. So it is very important what a reporter does. And Pierre
00:59:58.280 polyev is now from what i've heard i haven't confirmed this he is vetting their questions so
01:00:04.040 not only is he picking the reporters that can come he's vetting their questions but i i will
01:00:11.480 also say to be fair mark carney has kicked a few reporters out of his conferences as well
01:00:17.480 and some of them were very rude so i kind of don't blame him but he is as well to be fair
01:00:21.640 Well, it's interesting. We've really created a breadth of what a reporter is too, right? We've
01:00:29.460 created a wide range of what a reporter is, what an investigative journalist is, what, you know,
01:00:36.800 there's a big difference between somebody finding conspiracy theories online and asking that
01:00:40.840 question. That's not necessarily, but I still need, here's what I need out of my leaders.
01:00:47.200 I need my leader to be able to handle them the way I would handle a little kid in class that was doing it for jokes. 0.91
01:00:54.140 You have to figure if you can't handle that little kid in that media outlet from the stupid question they're asking, you don't know how to quickly put them in their place and then focus on somebody else. 0.98
01:01:04.660 You think you can handle Putin? 1.00
01:01:06.740 You think you can handle Trump?
01:01:09.140 You think you can you have to have that skill set.
01:01:13.180 I truly believe it.
01:01:14.420 This is no longer the time where you can have a fireside chat over the radio.
01:01:18.920 We're way past that.
01:01:20.440 We're way past that.
01:01:21.700 While we're on this topic, let's talk about CBC because that has been such a Canadian
01:01:26.920 state for so long.
01:01:30.380 And now we are risking, if Pierre wins, we will lose the CBC.
01:01:34.200 He has promised this.
01:01:35.300 He has promised that he would defund the CBC.
01:01:38.240 And if Mark Carney wins, he's actually going to boost the CBC with $150 million funding for them. So this is a huge statement that are both on opposite sides of the spectrum. And I mean, for me, I love the CBC. And I know it is probably more left leaning, but also it's, I think that it is very factual as well.
01:02:05.960 I'm also and I know I've taken up like an hour of your time so I do want to wrap up but I also
01:02:12.900 want to point this out I am exhausted at trying to be balanced rather than objectively true in
01:02:21.380 reporting I am not giving equal time to the guy who thinks the earth is flat than I am giving to
01:02:29.500 Neil deGrasse Tyson. That's not objective journalism. That's not even journalism at all.
01:02:37.620 Fair and balanced journalism doesn't mean equal time for stupid ideas. Fair and balanced journalism 1.00
01:02:43.900 means allowing intelligent, articulate, backed up points to be debated in a healthy way.
01:02:51.940 If you want to talk that, you know, the vaccine gave your kid autism, you're going to have to go
01:02:58.940 somewhere else. We don't have time for that. That has been debunked and disproven. All ideas are
01:03:06.280 not equal. They don't get equal playtime, period. And the reason why the CBC is left-leaning
01:03:12.240 is because conservatives have been blaming hurricanes on gay people. So guess what? 0.98
01:03:18.280 We don't get to talk about that. We're not talking about stupid here. Stupid doesn't get 0.99
01:03:25.920 equal balance. All I'm saying. You're killing me over here. That is the truth. They can talk 1.00
01:03:34.360 about that on Matt Walsh meets Ben Shapiro meets Andrew Tate. That's where you can talk about.
01:03:41.660 I'm so glad we didn't go into Danielle Smith because I just, I could rant for days.
01:03:46.520 There's no point. She's just trying to make, look, she's the product of a system where we've 0.97
01:03:52.700 developed all of our north-south dependencies, right? We've embedded them, and whether I like
01:04:02.980 her politics or not, that's the system she's working with. She's working with that system,
01:04:08.440 and half the political parties are saying we will never have an east-west line. We won't.
01:04:14.800 So if we don't, she's trying to figure out how her province survives. As much as I disagree with
01:04:20.260 every word that woman says, we've created infrastructure that makes it easy for her 0.99
01:04:26.120 to discuss and debate and forge alliances southward. That's the way the pipeline rides. 1.00
01:04:35.720 I mean, that's a very interesting point. We did that. Now we did that under the
01:04:41.300 auspice. We never thought we were going to get screwed by it. I get it. And the United States 0.81
01:04:47.540 is still making so much more money off us by taking our crude oil refining it and then reselling
01:04:53.540 it to us they're making bank off that but the minute they're going to try to squeeze that
01:04:57.940 manipulate that we really are in a bad spot because we have nothing going east west yeah
01:05:05.300 and i mean on on the plus side both parties have committed to doing an east west pipeline
01:05:10.340 so that's good has the i i don't think so i don't think that conservatives have
01:05:17.300 the ndp everybody's saying no because quebec says no the so far mark carney and both both
01:05:24.100 mark carney and pierre have committed to doing an east-west pipeline he's not an east-west pipeline
01:05:29.380 east-west electrical grid from what i understand an east-west pipeline would die in quebec because
01:05:35.140 Quebec says it's not going through our province. An east-west electrical grid is different because
01:05:44.980 right now, again, a lot of that's going north-south, right? An east-west electrical grid is different
01:05:50.500 than an oil pipeline. Sorry, I thought we were talking about pipelines.
01:05:55.220 Well, that's what I'm saying. I think what they've said yes to is an east-west power grid,
01:06:00.180 an east-west electrical line, electrical grid in order to give power across, but not an east-west
01:06:07.760 oil pipeline. I'm pretty sure they said an east-west pipeline, but I guess we will have to
01:06:13.820 look it up. Yeah. That's good for part two. There you go. Well, thank you so much, Elle. Where can
01:06:20.960 everybody find you before we head off for the evening? I'm on everything. I'm on YouTube. I'm
01:06:26.940 on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook.
01:06:29.520 You guys can find me in all four places and that's it 0.62
01:06:32.280 because I am too fucking lazy to put it anywhere else. 0.84
01:06:35.100 Shameless L, just shameless L on all platforms, 0.97
01:06:38.680 no dots, no dashes, no nothing. 0.98
01:06:42.780 Just shameless. 0.89
01:06:43.680 Just shameless L, E-L-L-E for everyone thinking.
01:06:48.680 How else do people spell it?
01:06:50.380 If anybody's spelling L any different way,
01:06:53.040 please stop in the L.
01:06:54.900 They just put the letter L.
01:06:57.900 What are you?
01:06:58.720 One of Elon Musk's kids?
01:07:01.260 This is what people do though.
01:07:03.100 So, you know, and also some people think that E-L-L-E is Ellie.
01:07:08.260 Lots of people will call me Ellie.
01:07:10.540 I'm going to need everybody to pull themselves together and spell L properly. 0.65
01:07:15.260 Yeah.
01:07:16.000 And on that note, guys, thank you so much for hanging out with me for an hour.
01:07:19.500 It was amazing.
01:07:20.340 You are awesome.
01:07:21.480 I look forward to maybe having you on again.
01:07:24.640 If you're up for it, we can discuss pipelines and a whole other series.
01:07:29.420 I'd love it.
01:07:29.940 Fantastic.
01:07:30.560 Thanks for having me.
01:07:30.960 Guys, thank you so much for listening.
01:07:32.460 I will see you next Tuesday.
01:07:34.000 Same bat time, same bat channel. 0.96
01:07:37.040 Dismissed. 1.00