00:00:00.000classes in session how you doing and welcome to unlearn 16 classes in session guys we're back
00:00:09.720but you just get me you just get me and i have a list of something like 40 questions that i'm
00:00:16.860going to try to get through um if i don't get through them all maybe i'll do a part two but
00:00:22.100you guys sent me a plethora a diversity of questions if you will some of them are deep
00:00:28.260and serious and touching and meaningful, and others, well, yeah, they're just not so much.
00:00:36.220So we're going to go into all of them, though, because I think they all have value.
00:00:41.260First and foremost, somebody asked me, if I could fly or be invisible, what would I choose?
00:00:49.820And my answer is clear, easy, not even a thought in my head, I want to fly.
00:00:55.180I want to fly because that feeling, I think, and that power and that sense of like an unlimited potential, I think is the coolest thing ever.
00:01:08.020Now, do I think if I was invisible, what could I do with that power?
00:01:11.260Yeah, but that might go to my dark side a little bit.
00:01:24.500I said some of them are deep. Here we go, guys. You ready? How would you inspire those who have
00:01:29.320suppressed childhood trauma start working on their issues? So many kids get stuck in the cycle
00:01:35.160and can't break free. How do you help them find self-love? Guys, listen. I read that question
00:01:43.520and I was like overwhelmed because you've just described the hardest thing and the most important
00:01:53.360thing that a teacher will ever try to do. As a teacher, we understand that I can't do anything
00:02:03.120in my job unless that kid, that student has a level of confidence, a level of self-love.
00:02:11.020And the more that I come up against things with kids, I know that it's coming from trauma.
00:02:16.960And the hard part for a teacher, it's different than a therapist. Well, two things. Number one,
00:02:20.740I'm not a therapist. So I admit that. I embrace that. When kids come to me with big issues,
00:02:27.140I tell them, like, I am not a therapist. So if we can find somebody that is to help you through
00:02:33.800your problems and help you through this trauma, do it. The second problem of a teacher is probably
00:02:39.900even harder than the first. We can recognize we're not trained. We can get them help if they're up
00:02:44.820for it. Most kids, one of two things, they won't tell you about their trauma or, and I don't know
00:02:54.020which one's harder to deal with on my end, or they haven't recognized it as trauma.
00:03:03.600And not recognizing the trauma is probably for me the most difficult because I can't even get
00:03:10.640at it ever because the student hasn't recognized it. So I can't deal with any of the foundational
00:03:18.720stuff. I can't. I can't deal with what happened. I'm not a therapist. I'd never try to be a
00:03:24.240therapist. And a lot of the times they're just coming at me with symptoms of trauma.
00:03:29.040So the best thing I can possibly do is handle the symptom and try my best to find strategies to help minimize their defense, minimize their possible anger, frustration, minimize their reaction to me in order to crack a window.
00:03:55.000so that I can do what that kid needs, which is to build any level of trust,
00:04:02.760any level of trust. It could be this much, but building that is goal one. And then goal two,
00:04:13.560and if I can do that, sometimes I do that through, I do it a lot through TV and movies. I know that
00:04:18.520sounds weird or that sounds silly, but it's a matter of like finding a way in, right? Finding
00:04:25.380the crack in the window, finding a way to connect with that kid. And a lot of the times the shows
00:04:32.660they watch, their favorite movies, their favorite music gives windows if you pay attention. And you
00:04:38.520can talk about their issues sometimes without talking about their issues because they'll let
00:04:43.960you talk about movies and television characters or music lyrics as though it's separate from
00:04:51.520them. And if you can do that and do that in a thoughtful and meaningful way, you get the
00:04:58.640crack you're looking for. You get the sliver of hope. You get them looking at you a little
00:05:04.260bit different. And then the only thing I can do is figure out what they're passionate about
00:05:10.240and build their confidence to be successful and to be powerful in that.
00:05:18.380And if I have to stay metaphoric in the land of their favorite television show and movie,
00:05:23.820that's cool. I'll do that. But what I found is eventually, eventually, if you hang out long
00:05:31.380enough, if you build the right clubs and the right team environment and you ensure the
00:05:37.740The atmosphere of your school is healthy and positive and you can find different ways.
00:05:45.580And at the end of the day, the kid might not connect with me the way that, you know, they need to to divulge anything.
00:05:53.160That's cool. Usually I can also, in my position, figure out what teacher or what other individual they can connect with, what other students sometimes.
00:06:02.800the hardest part about being a teacher in that situation is you can't well first of all I don't
00:06:11.300think I can save anyone but sometimes it's not about what I can do it's about what I can facilitate
00:06:17.220it's about me getting out of the way it's about me building a bridge so they can get to the next
00:06:22.100person that they need who's really going to help and then it's to always be there when you say
00:06:28.860you're going to be there. To never break a promise, to hold true to your word, to hold true
00:06:36.740to the consequences of their actions, as well as the positives or the benefits of great actions.
00:06:47.040And that takes time. And the saddest thing for me is when I see a kid come into my school and
00:06:52.720leave before we can do that. Or leave and we haven't been able to do it because we couldn't
00:07:01.840find the right window. I couldn't find the right way to get in. But it's probably one of the most
00:07:09.540important jobs that I have. All right. Well, that was an easy one. Here we go. All right. Look, I
00:07:17.200didn't put these in any particular order, by the way. So it's going to feel fairly fragmented, but
00:07:21.520I kind of like it. What made you realize you were gay? I have a joke answer for that, but
00:07:30.600I guess, I mean, I absolutely fell for my, in retrospect, the team captain of my volleyball
00:07:38.980team when I was in high school. Nobody was out. Nobody was gay. Nothing happened. But
00:07:43.420in retrospect, I'm like, oh my God, I want to walk through fire for her. I didn't realize
00:07:50.440really realize until I was at York University walking the picket line and everybody around me
00:07:57.140kept using the word partner and I'm like why is everybody at York University gay back then
00:08:02.360everybody used partner they were being supportive but I thought everybody was you know was gay um
00:08:08.840and when I finally I didn't come out right then but I it was the amazing part was getting to know
00:08:15.140people of all different backgrounds who were comfortable with who they were, who were comfortable
00:08:20.500with where they stood, who, if they were straight, said the word partner because they knew what kind
00:08:26.100of an ally that made them and how important that was for support and empowering a group of people
00:08:34.500that have been oppressed for so incredibly long. And the more I became friends with this group,
00:08:38.580found out pretty much nobody was gay. They were just amazingly intelligent political people.
00:08:45.140I went to a party. I got to the party. And I met a person who stood in her identity
00:08:55.200prouder and sure and with as much boisterous kind of confidence as I could have ever possibly
00:09:04.940hoped. And I think I was drawn to that. So I was drawn to that. And that ended up being my
00:09:13.280first girlfriend. It didn't bode well, but it ended up being my first girlfriend. But it was
00:09:18.840the strength and confidence of being who she was and those people being who they were with no
00:09:28.480hesitation, with no shame or no embarrassment or anything that was built up to be that. Because
00:09:39.120when I grew up, obviously coming out wasn't the easiest thing in the world. Um, and I was drawn
00:09:45.120to that strength and I have nothing but respect for that strength. So when people say to me,
00:09:50.940why is it important to be out as a teacher? I say that those, those people didn't make me gay.
00:09:56.740They give me this, they gave me this space to be exactly who I am without fear, without
00:10:03.360repercussion. And I will spend my entire career making sure that everybody around me knows
00:10:10.760who I am and how I stand to make space for anybody who needs the space to be made
00:10:17.980so they can become who they always were. That's my answer for that one. All right.
00:10:27.520I love this question, by the way. You ready? Number three. Have you ever gone on social
00:10:32.740media and searched out your exes, including your ex-wife. And does it bother you if they seem
00:10:39.100happier or more successful? A, of course, of course, everybody's God has searched out their
00:10:48.840ex. And yes, I have my exes, my ex-wife, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. And the only time
00:10:56.300anything bothered me, to be perfectly honest, is when I wasn't healed. Right? When I wasn't healed,
00:11:04.060when I wasn't whole, when I was hurt after the divorce, or when I was hurt after a breakup.
00:11:11.080Yeah, you want everybody to feel as crappy as you feel. But now, and for quite a while now,
00:11:20.840um i hope that everybody is happy i hope that everybody finds their path i hope that everybody
00:11:30.660finds what they're looking for to have a fulfilled life um because what you end up doing after a
00:11:38.700breakup even after a breakup of a marriage which is freaking horrifically painful and destructive
00:11:44.540Hopefully at some point you figure out what, who you were in that relationship, how you weren't whole, how you didn't accomplish or, or stand the way you should have stood and how that part is on you.
00:12:03.160And if I was more me and I stood up and I was more holistically developed and in a healthy, I had healthy boundaries and I had healthy concepts of love and all of those things, guess what?
00:12:18.580I don't, I don't step into a relationship that destroys me.
00:12:24.020And even if a relationship has to end, it wouldn't have destroyed me because I would have been whole, but I wasn't.
00:12:28.940And so even though at the beginning you're filled with vengeance and rage, that dissipates because I put in the work, I tried to figure out what role I played, and then I looked at that.
00:12:45.960I took a hard look at that. And I had the beautiful luck of meeting Anna. And she gave me space and had this incredible strength of character and authenticity that allowed me to continue to heal and see maybe some of my failings, maybe some of my limitations.
00:13:09.960And she was there standing beside me, encouraging me and bolstering me at every chance she got because she knew all of the potential.
00:13:22.320And I think she really saw my authentic self and was proud and supportive of that.
00:16:12.120The point of a parent, I think, the point of, you know, and I look to my mom often for this,
00:16:18.300the point of a parent is to be, not to wrap us in bubbles so we don't get hurt,
00:16:24.660but is to be there to put the band-aid on or drive us to emerge and sleep in one of those
00:16:33.760hospital chairs while we get better. And that's both literal and metaphoric. That's the job. And
00:16:40.900if you have people, forget it, even if you have one person in your life that will always sleep
00:16:47.820in the chair in the hospital room, you'll be good. Your kids will be good. That's all we need
00:16:56.840because you can't, there's no bubble wrap created to stop it. But if they know you're always sleeping
00:17:02.780in that chair, you will graze the most powerful, impressive, confident superstar on this planet.
00:17:09.980it. That's what kids need. All right. Next one. Did you watch the Grammys? I told you guys,
00:17:20.060these are all over the place. No, I did not. Although now I just want to watch that whole
00:17:24.200devil thing because it's really, really pissed off Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh. I also think
00:17:31.620it's hysterical. Yay, Sam. I'm just going to buy his album just for that presentation alone.
00:17:37.200uh number seven what fueled your passion for streetwear my childhood I think it's just a
00:17:46.740reversion right the and I and I happen to be wearing uh if you're not watching I'm wearing
00:17:51.640a purple hoodie and a purple hat on backwards at the moment I it's what I'm comfortable in
00:17:57.260when I look in the mirror I I see my now I do get dressed up and I also like the vibe when I'm
00:18:03.580dressed up and I see aspects of me it's like we all have versions of ourselves that we like
00:18:10.520different ideas of ourselves at different times meanwhile the hoodie the baggy jeans the right
00:18:18.500pair of kicks the sideways backwards hat is the most me the most often it's set it is it is the
00:18:26.700clearest reflection i think of how i see me to i don't know how else to describe that
00:18:34.780um and obviously it has a lot to do with growing up in the 80s and early 90s of course all of that
00:18:40.760would have been you know and nowadays it's back in so people are like wow look at joanna so
00:18:46.280stylish i'm it's just luck that i'm stylish right now this is just who i am i think it's you know
00:18:52.100Give me five or 10 years, people will be like, what the hell is that kid wearing? Possibly, but I'll still be wearing it. Don't you worry about a thing.
00:18:59.360I also love, I think I become more, I'll try a lot of things too. Like a lot of things like I would never wear before. I'm like, I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to see what it looks like. And I've kind of shocked myself.
00:19:12.420I think fashion sometimes is a way of finding caveats of your personality that you never knew existed until you put it on and you saw a reflection where you're like, oh, that feels authentic.
00:19:24.100Sometimes you got to be uncomfortable, physically uncomfortable, to test out all those boundaries.
00:19:42.420Un petit peu. Do you and Anna want kids? We talked about it. We said we both would like
00:19:53.440at least one, but I'm a little long in the tooth, guys. And Anna, it would have to be her egg and I
00:20:00.980would have to be the one that carried. And considering I can barely shovel my driveway,
00:20:07.000I don't know if I can physically take that on. And then being the age I'm at, raising a child,
00:20:15.720which I would want to give so much, well, all my attention to really. But at this point in my life
00:20:22.920and my career, it's like I'm getting busier and busier by the second. And I don't think I'd be
00:20:30.240able to devote the time I would, well, that, that any good parent would want to devote, right?
00:20:36.840So I'm just going to have to work on being an amazing aunt and, uh, and to my friend's kids,
00:20:44.680to, you know, Anna's and my, uh, nephews, to everybody I can possibly sort of gather in my,
00:20:52.560my brood. I'll just spoil the heck out of them, get them all hyped up on sugar and then come
00:20:58.620home and do a podcast. My coming out story. Well, I kind of already told that, right? I met this
00:21:05.460girl. I met a girl. I had to go see about a girl. That's it. That's it, really. And as soon as I met
00:21:12.960her, within weeks, I told everybody in my family, except for my grandma. You guys heard that.
00:21:20.600My mom hated her before she even knew that I was dating her, but she maybe knew under
00:21:27.800you know um and my mom and I fought for about a year and I and I don't know if it's as much about
00:21:35.300the being gay or me coming out but we had a really we had a hard time of it I think the thing was
00:21:41.260when I came out at like 24 however old I was I think the thing was um or 25 I think the notion
00:21:51.040that my mom thought I was hiding something from her because everybody was so surprised that I was
00:21:59.840gay. And then she thought I'd been hiding it from her all those years, or I've been hiding it for
00:22:06.600a long time. And I think she felt, well, I know she felt kind of betrayed because she thought she
00:22:10.700was a really good, supportive mom. And then for me not to tell her that, but I also think that
00:22:19.380But I never went through a rebellious stage when I was a kid. So I never was like, you know, at 16 years old, sneaking out of the house and staying out. I never was that kid. We never had fights then. There was nothing big that happened at my house.
00:22:37.940And I think at some point, I hate to tell parents this who haven't gone through it, kids need to have something big and monumental that causes that fracture.
00:22:50.060not that it's not going to heal because it will heal but it needs to cause the fracture so they
00:22:56.000can really stand on their own and and stand in opposition um in order to formulate in order to
00:23:05.420step into their their own being their own selves and i think i waited a very long time in order to
00:23:13.320do that uh what made you we're on question 11 by the way we're definitely gonna have to do two
00:23:21.260parts this is insane what made you want to become a teacher i have no idea my uncle is a science
00:23:27.720teacher he's brilliant he's a physics teacher i remember watching him teach physics and the people
00:23:33.540physics these kids were on the edge of their seats he made it spontaneous and funny and he's
00:23:41.200brilliant. So he explains it well, but his classroom, it was like people wanted to be
00:23:46.400there and they wanted to learn. And I remember wanting to be that. Um, when I became a teacher,
00:23:52.780I don't know if it was so much my goal. I think I thought I'm going to, I think I thought that's
00:23:58.800so much of a teacher. I'm going to try a teacher's college. I'll go, I'll try to be a teacher. If I
00:24:04.140don't like it, I have my master's. I'll go back to school and get my PhD. That was my thought
00:24:09.640process. I didn't know teaching was who I was until I stepped into the classroom.
00:24:16.920And as soon as I stepped into the classroom, I'm like, that's it. That's who I am. I'm good to go.
00:24:25.420When are we getting, when Anna and I getting married? I don't know. I don't know. This summer,
00:24:32.300we're trying our best. You know what? We're just trying our best to figure out what the best
00:24:37.360possible plan is. We might have a couple of surprises in the, in the, I don't know, near
00:24:45.520future. And so I'm trying to make space for that as well. So I don't really know when. I feel like
00:24:54.460I'm married already though, to be honest. And she does want everybody to wear neon suspenders. So0.67
00:25:01.440technically we're still fighting about that. Do I have any siblings who identify as you?
00:25:08.760I'm assuming what this question meant. Do I have any siblings who are gay? I'm an only child.
00:25:15.440I do not. All of my cousins are, from what I know, straight. So I'm it. I'm the diamond in
00:25:25.740they're rough in the whole family. I'm the, you know that when it's like, oh, the gay cousin,1.00
00:25:31.460I'm the problem. It's me. Hi, I'm the pro. I like that. So I'm a bit of an original in my family.0.87
00:25:42.360How do I set up my phone in my car for story times? I have two placements for my phone in
00:25:48.840my car. One is on my dash, just to the left of the center console, so I get the right light,
00:25:55.800guys. The reason why I'm in my car all the time isn't to show off my car, which apparently a lot
00:26:01.300of people think that's what I'm trying to do. It's because, I'm going to tell you guys, just
00:26:05.160between me and you, it is the best lighting of all time. So that's why you set up in your car.
00:26:12.900If it's sunny outside, you're going to get the best lighting. Or on the passenger door, I lean it
00:26:18.680on the armrest. And I lean it and I tilt it up just a little bit. And again, I do that depending
00:26:25.560on when the best lighting is, where it's coming from, how I catch it. And that's it.
00:26:33.700Sometimes the car too, because I can't do it. Sometimes in school, it's too noisy or I can't
00:26:40.680focus. So I'll go get a coffee and then I'll do it from the car. And I like the quiet. So that
00:26:46.660could be it, but it's all about the lighting, folks. Never forget that. People ask you,
00:26:50.880what's the most important part of video? Lighting. All right. What is my biggest regret?
00:27:01.640I, you know why I hate regrets? I hate talking about regrets because A, you can't go back,
00:27:10.180But B, I'm incredibly happy with where I am and where I stand right this minute and who I am.
00:27:19.340I know that sometimes I wish that I could have figured myself out a little bit quicker, that I didn't stay married for as long in something that obviously wasn't healthy and powerfully beneficial for me.
00:27:33.980And I wish I recognized that and was able to negotiate that.
00:27:37.140But I think my learning curve is long. I think I needed, as much as I would have liked to have learned that lesson, my marriage lesson in half the time, I think my stubborn head needed the 10, 11 years for me to really come to terms with where it was my fault.
00:32:32.120You're there to do whatever you can do and who you can be authentically
00:32:37.240so they can see you standing there authentically.
00:32:41.700And no matter if you teach physics or chemistry or history or art or music,
00:32:48.080It's your authentic presence and your love of what you do and your passion for what you do that they're going to remember.
00:32:56.800There's a lot of kids that walk away and never want to take a history class from me and never take history again, but they connected to me.
00:33:03.120They took a piece of who I am and rolled it into the idea and the reality that they get to be whoever they are.
00:33:16.060they get to be that person, stand strong, stand tall, stand powerful. That's it. That's our job.
00:33:24.260And the way you do that is you create space by being you. I hope you guys understand that. I
00:33:29.820feel like I'm rambling a bit, but. Who inspired me to be an educator? Well, my uncle. Who did I
00:33:37.080not want to be like? I never liked teachers. And I didn't, I didn't realize this when I was a kid,
00:33:44.600But you know, those teachers that are like, well, my, they're two different people.
00:33:49.780They stand in front of the classroom and they're this, I teach, you know, whatever course
00:33:55.460and I do it perfectly, but the kids never get to know any of who I am.
00:34:00.100I'm not talking about wanting to tell kids my life story, but who I am matters.
00:34:06.180And I never saw the point in dividing those two.
00:34:08.980A lot of people will tell me like, they'll say, Joanna, do you get in trouble at your
00:44:45.020And I worry about, he has, I find his politics abhorrent, but he's very intelligent with how he presents them and how he manipulates the voting population.