Unlearn16: Class is in Session - December 16, 2025


The One Where Marit Uses the 'C' Word.

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The One Where The Tide is Out...That's Not What This Book Is About The One Where Mr. Global and I Take Venezuela

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00:00:00.000 class is in session hey everybody and welcome to unlearn 16 classes in session i've had a bit of
00:00:08.480 a break just so you know i've had a bit of a break from my podcast because i had my book i did uh
00:00:12.800 speak engagement blah blah blah but just been kicking back but okay however my lead in to my
00:00:21.120 i think it's my fourth season is you not that there's any pressure oh yeah no pressure at all
00:00:26.000 so if you could just like you know stream in oh i thought i'd drive down to queen's park in a
00:00:30.880 snowstorm yeah uh and and come hunt you down because i i have some questions okay i'm like
00:00:36.720 i'm here for you i know i am listen this is on the heels of one of the best things i've seen
00:00:42.160 in parliament in a long time and in all fairness getting kicked out of parliament yeah because
00:00:50.320 you called him out you called doug ford out on being corrupt yes is my favorite thing of 20 really
00:00:56.460 you know i'm hearing that from a lot of people no it brings my heart joy so can you explain okay
00:01:02.140 first of all just so everybody understands unparliamentary language i think this is the
00:01:07.020 most hysterical thing i've ever heard considering what i hear people shout in the middle and they
00:01:11.860 bang on desk and they act like in all fairness grade nines yeah it's like the whole thing seems
00:01:16.840 very unparliamentary like there's a lot of bad behavior in there i know what you mean and and
00:01:21.000 you know like we've we've talked about this before when students come in yeah to watch sometimes like
00:01:25.160 i see them come in to the chamber and they got these great happy faces and then they they're
00:01:30.040 there for five minutes and their faces are like what is happening but uh so yeah the unparliamentary
00:01:35.480 language means like there's things that you're allowed to say and things that you're not and
00:01:38.920 the things that you like for example things you can't say are i can't say that somebody's lying
00:01:43.240 i can't say that somebody's corrupt can you tell me why that is the corrupt is one thing i'm going
00:01:49.260 to leave corrupt over here because it has legal implications yeah which i think are 100 deserve
00:01:54.260 uh but lying when you say you have lied can you say you like is there another word you say
00:02:02.180 i've heard people say that's inaccurate or um i'm sorry but that's that's not the case things like
00:02:09.000 that. But I mean, I think at the end of the day, and I'm no, I'm no expert on all of these rules.
00:02:13.900 But at the end of the day, the idea is to keep the tone of things higher. And if the other thing's
00:02:18.960 funny thing, so I can't say you lied. You obviously there's bad words that we all know
00:02:24.860 that we can't say. No swears. No swears. Fair enough. No swears. No swears. But yeah, not not
00:02:30.140 using a word like corruption, not saying that the government is lying to people or misleading,
00:02:34.240 even misleading you can't say but i'll tell you something i know but you you also can't say which
00:02:40.720 is another one that confuses a lot of people like if doug ford is not sitting in his chair for
00:02:46.480 example and i i can't point out that he's not there if a minister or anybody in the in the
00:02:51.920 in the legislature isn't sitting in their chair they're not there they're not in the chamber
00:02:55.840 i can't say that um and the reason they do that is that they they say that it's because and it's
00:03:02.320 true to some extent that we all have lots of other things we end up having to use of us we're not
00:03:06.160 always in our chairs all the time because you know we take turns in some cases in debates and
00:03:11.680 everything um and so they they try to there's an understanding that nobody calls that out
00:03:17.040 but um but if people also often say to me like it's kind of funny because i will notice that
00:03:21.760 you're you're asking the premier a question and he's not even sitting there yeah so i usually will
00:03:25.840 do that as a kind of way of saying okay well you may not be sitting there but i'm still going to
00:03:29.680 ask you the question so so wait okay so you don't call him out about not being there you'll be like
00:03:33.360 okay so uh mr ford can you please oh sorry can somebody else answer they'll just answer no i
00:03:41.840 can't i can't because i can't even hint that he's not there oh my i know okay listen these are some
00:03:46.480 of the rules we're gonna have to change i think because it's it's a little bit ex it is exhausting
00:03:51.440 and i did bring my students here not too long ago we did sit the chamber we did listen to some back
00:03:56.560 and forth and the yelling and the whatever here's the funny part i get like i read my kids the right
00:04:02.400 act before we went in i said guys you're not going to whisper to each other you're not allowed to
00:04:06.480 clap you're not allowed to you're not allowed to wave to anybody you have all of these rules and my
00:04:11.760 you know got to know my students were terrified they were going to do something and i'm like
00:04:15.600 because you'll get taken out and then we'll all have to leave and and as they get let in they sit
00:04:20.240 down they start watching and then and then you know the hilarity ensues and the guy from the
00:04:25.280 back's yelling and he's calling them out and he's banging the table and i can see my kids going like
00:04:30.800 this like i'm behind them they're like wait a minute they can do all of that and we can't do
00:04:37.200 anything so that was actually and it's funny like if you looked at like and you know kind of public
00:04:42.880 parliamentary geeks like me might do this occasionally but you look at like uh and go on
00:04:47.120 and you google the uh uk parliament and you look at what they do like some of their sessions are
00:04:53.040 even wilder and i think it is partly that tradition like things like a bit of heckling or
00:04:58.400 banging on the table is a way to um sometimes it's a it's an expression of support or it can
00:05:04.840 be an expression of unhappiness it can be a way that we actually bang the tears to get
00:05:09.460 a vote happening faster there's some kind of weird stuff like that that actually isn't
00:05:13.000 really negative but it looks weird and it looks um yeah rowdy and it is rowdy it's rowdy in there
00:05:18.320 And there are definitely people get called out all the time, but not removed from the legislature.
00:05:23.680 Yeah.
00:05:24.020 Okay.
00:05:24.340 So let's get to that because I want to know, did you, A, you know the language you can't use.
00:05:32.040 B, you know what's been going on with this government.
00:05:35.240 And just, you know what?
00:05:36.800 Did I even say that you were the leader of the NDP party?
00:05:39.280 No, maybe not.
00:05:40.120 I don't know.
00:05:40.600 Hey, guys.
00:05:42.240 This is Marit Stiles, leader.
00:05:43.980 You know what?
00:05:44.600 If you don't know and you're following my channel, do better.
00:05:47.160 find out who the leaders are do a little bit of homework before coming to me for all your lessons
00:05:51.920 do you walk into parliament do you know you're like today's the day i'm calling this guy out
00:05:57.780 or did you just have enough no actually that day i really just had enough i i mean i i write out
00:06:04.720 my questions um i think a lot about what i'm going to ask and what they're gonna the kinds
00:06:09.700 of questions i want to ask and i'm usually pretty careful what i write down is you know i'm careful
00:06:13.660 not to write things down that i can't say right um but you know i i got up and i was sort of
00:06:19.300 talking about how about this scandal that's happening lately and i've been asking this
00:06:24.820 particular minister the minister of labor who heads up all the sort of programs that are supposed
00:06:29.060 to help what's his name his name is david pacini uh and he's supposed to be you know delivering a
00:06:35.440 program that like grants and it's like two and a half billion dollars worth of grants it's all
00:06:39.380 about skills training or skills training and you know i think this is something like these days
00:06:43.260 we're all talking about the lack of jobs young people lots of young people are looking highest
00:06:47.660 unemployment rate for young people is in Ontario of all the provinces um so you know big issues
00:06:54.340 and I've been asking questions every day about this and trying to get some answers and I got 1.00
00:06:58.840 really frustrated and I said you know what they're a party that's just full of they're just grifters 1.00
00:07:03.140 and I said yeah I know what I'm gonna say is that what you're allowed to say grifters I seem to be 1.00
00:07:06.740 getting away with that I don't know but um I said and you know I'm just gonna say it they're corrupt 1.00
00:07:10.760 and as soon as i said it i knew because i know as soon as i said the word i thought okay i'm
00:07:16.080 gonna have to withdraw withdraw and apologize or yeah they just make you usually withdraw yeah
00:07:20.620 get up and the speaker says you know the member from davenport will withdraw take it back yeah
00:07:25.800 and so i usually you just kind of immediately go yeah withdraw and then you move on um because
00:07:30.320 sometimes we do say things that we don't really mean to right in the moment but as soon as she
00:07:34.440 said withdraw i stood up and i said you know i can't because it's true so what had it in this
00:07:38.540 particular so according to this this particular two and a half million dollars and the skills
00:07:43.180 what is corrupt about it so what's happening is usually these kinds of programs like you'll have
00:07:48.740 all these like bureaucrats civil servants who are given the responsibility to rank uh applications
00:07:55.040 so you apply for grant to do some training uh yeah let's give an example let's say i want to
00:08:00.560 be electrician yeah is this is this the thing no you'd be more like if you had an organization or
00:08:06.120 a union or um uh you know an organization that is going to provide some very specific training
00:08:11.480 oh and then i can get that grant and then i can pass it on in scholarships to students yeah you
00:08:16.040 can you can set up a program to train people in uh as real electricians or you know a lot of a lot
00:08:22.600 of this is so i'm running an electrician school or i'm a union that realizes that i need we need
00:08:28.120 electricians we gotta increase our member skills amazing there we go and so you're going to give
00:08:34.120 me a grant and I'm gonna I'm gonna fund I'm gonna give scholarship out to my people in order to do
00:08:38.760 this so what's corrupt about it well what's happening right what we've discovered and it
00:08:42.120 wasn't it's just us actually it was the auditor general who puts out lots of reports and she's
00:08:46.680 her job basically is to look and see how our programs working right how are how is the government
00:08:51.560 doing their job and so she'll go in and she'll dig right down into an issue or a department or a
00:08:57.000 program or grant program and say okay I I'm noticing some problems here and then she'll report
00:09:02.760 out on it and this particular one was really damning right like it was she said there's been
00:09:08.600 preferential treatment given so what she noticed was that the civil servants whose job it is to
00:09:14.920 rank these applications were ranking them a certain way but that the minister himself and
00:09:20.440 his political staff were coming in and they were bumping ones up from the bottom of the
00:09:25.480 pile to the top and that she was the one who noticed that those she made did some research
00:09:31.080 is that these are often related to connections to the government, their friends, their insiders,
00:09:37.880 their donors, you know? So, and the problem with it is there's lots of good programs. This is a
00:09:42.900 good fund. We should be doing this work. Yeah. But once you start to get your politician hands
00:09:47.680 over it, and now it's connected to like, oh yeah, you over there. And so this is what's happening,
00:09:51.540 I think, is they're saying to people, yeah, you know, we might give you that money, but you've
00:09:56.040 to hire our friends to lobby for you to get out there to advocate for you or you know what you've
00:10:01.400 got to come to put on a fundraiser for us make us some money for our for the next election things
00:10:06.120 like that and that is what we are connecting to it and that's why i say when you're giving out
00:10:10.840 government dollars in exchange for something else that is corruption yeah yeah well i mean it is
00:10:16.760 clear as can can be i'm going to ask the hard question don't you think statistically or over
00:10:24.680 the years that defines a substantial amount of politicians no and that's a really good question
00:10:32.040 i'm being honest here this this is what for the most part people think about politics i walk in
00:10:38.680 this building at night and honest to god when i when i come in here at night and it's it's quiet
00:10:43.460 and it's not that late but it it's quiet and it's it's beautiful and it feels i don't even know the
00:10:50.300 word it it feels powerful and it feels important and and that can go away pretty quickly sometimes
00:10:57.320 when there's certain people in the vicinity and i overhear them talk and i'm like oh no you guys
00:11:02.240 are messing up what this is about because do you find that to be a consistent issue well i i think
00:11:09.440 well first of all i think that is like i mean what you thinking that is not inconsistent with
00:11:14.060 i think what a lot of people out there think right like i meet people all the time people say oh but
00:11:17.400 know politicians are all the same and it's always been like this but it actually and i mean certainly
00:11:22.200 there were times when i think this was how politics was done but we've actually supposedly
00:11:27.000 changed some of those things right there used to be protections in place and one of the ways you
00:11:31.160 protect that from happening is you say no we're going to have like bureaucrats professional people
00:11:36.200 the experts right decide who's the best you know hand out that stuff and you get the politicians
00:11:40.840 out of it and i think that that's a fair thing to do now i like to think that would never because i
00:11:45.800 I would never do that.
00:11:46.900 And I don't think I would because I have, I actually believe that's immoral and unethical.
00:11:52.420 And that's not what I think.
00:11:54.180 That's just part of what I really believe and what has always upset me about the way
00:11:58.180 that governments sometimes are run or that politics is done.
00:12:01.640 To me, that should have no place.
00:12:04.020 You know, you are elected to do the right thing for the most people, right?
00:12:07.680 You really are.
00:12:08.640 And you're also, by the way, not only elected to represent the people who voted for you.
00:12:13.060 You've got to represent everybody.
00:12:14.340 and people those dollars that they're spending are not there they're not their money they're
00:12:19.440 the money that you that people out there paid their in their taxes so I always think like no
00:12:25.300 actually you have a huge responsibility and you're right there's cases you hear about where
00:12:29.800 some prime ministers and others have received you know you hear like it comes out there was
00:12:35.060 an envelope of cash you know I mean it's not like this hasn't ever happened but it is
00:12:40.380 truthfully pretty shocking and there are laws that have been passed to prevent this from
00:12:46.880 happening and even the government that's elected now the conservatives here in ontario
00:12:50.680 before they were elected in 2018 they were accusing the liberals of exactly the same thing
00:12:56.240 and actually they were doing very similar things right so you know they they said no we're going
00:13:00.420 to clean this up well you know stop complaining about the gravy train and actually do something
00:13:06.340 to prevent it from happening well what do you say it's like you say it's moral and it's unethical
00:13:10.540 100 that's fine but i would just like to tap into isn't it just bad business yeah isn't it bad
00:13:16.360 business to to have somebody in honor general or whoever to go through and they prioritize
00:13:21.660 applications and they and they use what i would assume to be a relatively objective system to say
00:13:28.720 these are the really good ones all the way down to the ones that aren't so good and if you're
00:13:32.560 gonna bypass that it's just bad business you're choosing you're not choosing for the best possible
00:13:40.200 thing anymore in this illusion and this is what i think that this government does so incredibly well
00:13:46.420 they create a pretense an illusion that they are about the best of the best if i hear the word
00:13:52.520 meritocrity one more time meanwhile yeah they're not actually following through on that in order
00:14:00.420 to make sure no why are they doing this well they want to stay in power i mean that's well right and
00:14:05.700 i mean at the end of the day you know if you look at like the way that politics is done in the
00:14:09.300 united states for example there are basically no limits on campaign donations so you know in the
00:14:13.780 united states this is why you have like these crazy campaigns where people are basically like
00:14:19.860 you have to spend so much money to win and um and and people can donate at these ridiculous
00:14:27.300 crazy levels we have laws in place in Canada very strict you know very strict laws that actually
00:14:33.060 manage some of those things and there are lots of ways that you can still kind of wiggle around it
00:14:37.140 but generally there are laws in place and so in this case the auditor general saying like this
00:14:42.180 is wrong I see it as wrong there and you're right it's bad it's bad for business it's bad government
00:14:48.500 doesn't make sense you're not getting the best value for your money yeah you're not you're
00:14:52.260 absolutely not and I think that's the thing that bugs me the most is it's like so like some of the
00:14:55.780 cases we've dug up of like what now some of these programs that are going on or have you know nothing
00:15:00.980 wrong with them and the problem with situations like this too is that when you have that kind of
00:15:05.300 stuff happening and there's a few bad apples and the government actually lets those bad apples in
00:15:10.660 because they're giving them lots of money and stuff then then you end up with a case where
00:15:15.220 everybody gets painted with the same brush right and that's also bad right like people need to i
00:15:19.940 think that one of the biggest problems we have right now i think you and i have talked about
00:15:23.700 this before is that people don't trust government they don't trust politicians they don't trust
00:15:28.180 government and you know you're asking them to contribute their hard-earned tax dollars at a
00:15:33.060 time when a lot of people are just trying to stretch a dollar right and you're asking them
00:15:37.780 to give that that and of course nobody wants to because they think this is what happens every time
00:15:42.260 and it and it really doesn't have to and it shouldn't and another good example is advertising
00:15:46.900 like think of all those ads you see out there right like if an ad if a government's got an ad
00:15:51.140 out there oh this ad is brought to you by the government of montana is it providing a real
00:15:55.860 service is it is it giving you information about something that you need to know a government
00:16:00.500 service or a program or vaccination or health promotion or something or is it just saying hey
00:16:06.740 we are amazing and i know that you're standing there in the food bank lineup or you're waiting
00:16:12.100 in the emergency room or your kid is struggling at school but yeah don't worry because actually
00:16:15.860 everything's okay like they're gaslighting you right but they're using and this is really important
00:16:20.740 your tax dollars yeah well and i often think about advertising i want to get to some other scandals
00:16:25.980 because i feel like the green belt thing's gone away nobody's talking about it well that that
00:16:30.480 that was insane and there's a couple of other things that are going on that i want to be able
00:16:34.240 to speak to as well um but this idea that um advertising is a necessity so so right now he's
00:16:44.140 you know the conservatives are in power it doesn't matter what government i'm talking about whoever's
00:16:47.940 in power whoever's at the end of the day they can get all the advertising they want they just walk
00:16:52.340 outside take a press conference they really do have the capacity to wield media that's true
00:16:57.540 quite effectively yeah which is why it does make sense for other um uh political parties to have
00:17:05.300 the ability to publicize because if you didn't give them that option now i'm gonna say it really
00:17:11.140 really clearly uh the commercials are bad guys they're not no there's also they're not they're
00:17:17.540 not enjoyable they're i just don't know if they're necessarily doing what what they need to be doing
00:17:24.260 in my opinion i think we should force because what happens i think a lot of people don't actually
00:17:30.660 what happens see what happens in the house either no i honestly believe that if we wanted a more
00:17:36.340 informed a more educated electorate we would at a 6 30 time slot throw in every single night
00:17:45.860 a press conference with the leaders of the parties yeah i mean throw in question period a little bit
00:17:51.620 throw in not not allow the the incumbent not allow the party that's in power to wield the media
00:17:58.660 but also not waste taxpayers dollars on advertisements and rather force them into
00:18:05.220 a situation where they have to have a banter back and forth where they have to speak off the cuff
00:18:10.520 where they have to not have i don't know a giant binder in front of them where they get to speak
00:18:15.520 from that's what everybody would like to see that yeah right now what's happened with the green
00:18:21.240 belt thing has it gone away not not i mean really i mean like you said it seems like nobody's talking
00:18:25.980 about it but but what happened is that the rcmp is still apparently investigating so i you know
00:18:32.220 really don't know like it's not like the RCMP comes to me and says here's where where this is
00:18:36.020 at uh I I would love to know what's going on um but if we checked and they are still that
00:18:41.800 investigation is still underway and there's a few other um things that are not related to Greenbelt
00:18:46.040 but that are still ongoing around this skills development well around some other grants actually
00:18:50.420 um so and then there's other things going on like um integrity commissioner complaints that we've
00:18:55.600 put in place there's all kinds of see there's all kinds of checks and balances that are in place
00:19:00.020 it's just that and everybody says to me well how you know aren't there laws that enforce some of
00:19:05.540 these things better and the problem is that the government makes the laws yeah right and
00:19:09.700 they can minimize regulation and when you have a majority government yeah yeah when you have a if
00:19:15.700 that cut off right there just understand that i'm a very popular teacher and that was a parent that
00:19:20.340 i just um but when the government can manipulate or limit regulation under the guise of making it
00:19:28.980 more efficient i mean make no mistake you will have government officials saying well we want to
00:19:34.820 ease these regulations because the more red tape we have the hardier it is for us to do what we
00:19:40.340 need to do and the more expensive it is which in actuality what they want to do is just grease the
00:19:45.780 lining so that they can get done what they want to done for for anybody who doesn't understand
00:19:49.700 what the green belt is and i'll i'm gonna i'm gonna five minute it uh an area in ontario an
00:19:56.660 area of protected land that's always been protected so that we don't develop it in order to protect
00:20:02.500 the environment but also farmland farmland yeah farmland being a part of that now that land's
00:20:08.420 worth x amount because it's protected land meaning industrial agents can never come in buy it all up
00:20:15.300 and you know uh develop it any way they see fit from what i understand and you can correct me if
00:20:20.580 If I'm wrong, from what I understand, Doug Ford, maybe let's say a little, a little before allowing this land to be deregulated, maybe possibly let some people know that you might want to think about purchasing some of this land at a really good rate.
00:20:42.600 Because as soon as he deregulates it, this is what's known as insider trading, buy the buy.
00:20:48.660 As soon as he deregulates it, now it will be available for industrial development.
00:20:54.160 So something that was worth $100,000 is now worth a million.
00:20:58.540 I mean, that's really it. 0.68
00:21:00.240 And I think lots of people have lots of different reasons why they might be upset about the carving up and deregulating of the green belt.
00:21:08.720 And that's a really good explanation.
00:21:09.960 I mean, at the end of the day, we knew and we could see what was going on because the government board had gotten elected in 2018 and said, don't worry, I'm not going to touch it.
00:21:19.240 But behind the scenes, he was telling people, yeah, we're open for business.
00:21:22.780 And then even the same minister that I just talked about, who's stuck, you know, caught up in this controversy, David Pacini, he, he, others have, who are tied to the Green Belt have actually said that he, he was giving people the heads up as well.
00:21:36.040 So, you know, again, and it's always the same cast of characters, right?
00:21:39.420 it's the same people and that's i guess the other thing right it's like who are you are you seeing
00:21:43.580 the same names yeah over and over again and that's where i always sort of say that the only job
00:21:47.980 creation program the government has is for their own insiders you know it's like it's like who's
00:21:52.700 actually getting jobs there's almost 800 000 ontarians right now that are looking for work
00:21:56.860 do you think it's a bit of a flaw in the way our democracy is set up that that a good chunk of your
00:22:01.100 job is keeping your job yeah you know that is that is that is actually true i mean i think that
00:22:06.860 well actually i think a really good way to look at it is i say like government shouldn't be run
00:22:12.220 in like four-year cycles so if you think that like it's hard usually get done in four years
00:22:17.180 and so you're everything is being run in a certain way and then it's and it's really fast right
00:22:21.900 instead of thinking in longer term or better um about passing good laws that are going to actually
00:22:28.860 do the right things not have like unintended consequences because sometimes government
00:22:32.780 brings forward laws sure and they don't even really they don't they do it so fast you don't
00:22:36.700 hear from everybody about how that could go wrong sometimes they put in speed cameras and then um
00:22:43.500 take them out and complain that they were a money grab but they're the actual people who brought
00:22:48.300 them in yeah that's neither here nor there can we talk about education yeah i know you have a
00:22:53.180 limited amount of time no no let's talk about education i always have time to talk about
00:22:56.380 might be my least favorite person so so uh eqao um yeah uh results came out these are the
00:23:06.780 standardized standardized tests so we have a standardized test in grade three grade six
00:23:11.580 grade ten is there a grade nine one no i thought it was i think six and nine oh i don't know math
00:23:17.260 is great three as well so all these standardized uh tests um they the results well they didn't
00:23:22.940 want to release the results the results and then they finally came out and we realized they were
00:23:27.340 better than last time but they're still like nowhere near to be seeing the the increases i
00:23:33.820 guess that have been promised um and everybody's real upset about it right and this is amidst
00:23:39.500 speaking of another issue of corruption trying to get rid of trustees and installing people
00:23:46.220 instead of the trustee installing again partisan officials to go in at insane how do i get one of
00:23:54.020 yeah i know 350 000 dollars 350 000 to go do what a trustee is supposed to do and by the way
00:24:02.300 trustees are side like they're getting paid like five grand they're not getting paid a lot of money
00:24:06.980 350 000 to go what clean up have you ever heard of bad business ideas i know i'm gonna pay
00:24:15.320 three hundred fifty thousand dollars for somebody to go save two hundred thousand dollars yeah what
00:24:21.100 and they're making giving them like a forty thousand dollars each for expenses which is
00:24:26.000 like one of their big issues is like they've been making such a hey about like a trustee who paid a
00:24:31.040 lot for a milkshake and there were some trustees who you know i think made bad decisions about
00:24:35.740 things they did go to italy one time that was not good to get one time they went to italy good idea
00:24:40.840 but that's they paid it back they like what are we doing no and i think like there's there's always
00:24:45.960 going to be a few bad apples right but i i do think you're taking away a position that is very
00:24:51.080 very low paid you're right like usually it's like five thousand dollars depends on the side because
00:24:54.520 it's yeah it's really it's almost doing it as a volunteer or if somebody's on a board and you get
00:24:58.600 like a few thousand dollars to cover your time it's like a stipend uh and they have a huge
00:25:02.680 responsibility but most importantly like their job is like because they're debt they're democratically
00:25:07.880 elected in their communities they're supposed to be the person who's like keeping an eye on like
00:25:12.720 what the community thinks and feels um they're a person that the parent can go to you know if
00:25:17.120 you're really running into like you can't get answers about something or you see an ongoing
00:25:21.180 issue in in your school or in your board and so they're shutting all that down and they're
00:25:25.600 replacing them with these people who are not education education experts they have no connection
00:25:30.620 they're almost all people who are connected again to the conservative party like failed candidates
00:25:35.180 and they're paying them a heap of money and then yeah that's what they're doing it's wild
00:25:41.520 and then they come out with the eqao results so all of this is on the heels of that they haven't
00:25:46.560 actually these people haven't actually gone in and the results are horrible and paul calandra who is
00:25:51.400 the minister of education is real confused yeah real dumbfounded about what could possibly be
00:25:58.900 going on in education that could lead to poorer results. And what baffles me is that it doesn't
00:26:09.240 seem like a single person in the media is holding his feet to the fire. It's wild. You know, when he
00:26:15.340 said he was going to hold off releasing those results, we all knew right away that meant they
00:26:18.960 were bad. But we could have told them they were bad anyways, because kids are struggling. And if
00:26:22.700 you've got a kid in the school system, or you're a parent or a grandparent, or you're
00:26:28.460 a teacher or work in the system like you know you know already what's going on in there and the kids
00:26:33.780 are struggling and they're not getting the support they need and I could have told him that but he
00:26:37.680 didn't need to go study it now he wants to go and study it again he's paying some more of his
00:26:41.080 insider friends to help him study it I told him how to fix it any teacher that's been teaching
00:26:46.660 more than five minutes could tell him how to fix it here's the bottom line it's going to cost money
00:26:50.820 yeah that's it it's going to cost money and this is what nobody's willing to say because they're
00:26:55.860 going to pretend as though and this is what this government does horrifically well but in all
00:27:00.640 fairness voters out there pull it together because if you're going to keep falling for it i don't
00:27:04.840 know what to tell you they can't charge you less they can't take fewer tax dollars and give you
00:27:12.500 more yeah period yeah that's right everything is inflated down to the paper that schools are buying
00:27:20.320 obviously wages because they they need to be because they're trying to keep up with
00:27:25.480 inflation out there down to how much school buses have to charge because of gas down to uniform
00:27:31.940 costs for kids playing sports a basketball everything costs more yet you seem to and i'm
00:27:39.220 saying you as in some people i don't know how many are listening to me keep voting in people
00:27:44.740 that say well don't worry we're never going to charge you anymore that price bracket is never
00:27:51.120 going to go up we're going to keep putting the same money into education or if we're going to
00:27:55.140 put more money into education. It's going to be for $350,000 surveyors of knowledge that actually
00:28:02.420 have no experience whatsoever. And they're not going to change the real issues, which are
00:28:06.920 classroom size, which are complexities of the classroom. To be honest, if Paul was worth
00:28:13.480 anything at all, he would have come out and said, you know what? The complexities in the
00:28:17.780 classroom are really, really difficult. Our teachers are doing amazing jobs. We need to
00:28:21.580 figure out how to he could have spun it yeah he doesn't even care to spin it that's how much
00:28:27.420 you know i i mean you're you're like the educator i what i hear from uh educators like teachers
00:28:36.500 education workers educational assistants all of that principals is uh and what we we know because
00:28:42.560 if you're close to kids at all and you see it like they are struggling and the complexities are
00:28:47.260 are massive um kids are still dealing with the fallout from covid yeah 100 and and the government
00:28:53.100 has been in power for eight years so anything that's not happening is on them and actually
00:28:58.300 you're right like that cost increasing like if you do the math and lots of people have already
00:29:01.740 done this work and they say you know really they say they've increased funding but really they
00:29:06.300 haven't because it's actually a six billion dollar cut it's fifteen hundred dollars per student so
00:29:10.700 So we're no kidding.
00:29:12.680 If you're keeping it at $1,500 per student, yet everything has gone up, it is a cut.
00:29:19.600 Just like you feel a cut at home when your wage doesn't go up, but everything at the grocery store is more.
00:29:25.400 Your gas is more.
00:29:26.460 Your heating is more.
00:29:27.700 It's the same thing.
00:29:29.460 So we are seeing huge cuts.
00:29:31.420 And forget those huge cuts.
00:29:32.380 I've been talking to EAs.
00:29:33.720 I don't work in that environment.
00:29:36.760 I don't work in an elementary school.
00:29:38.000 I don't work with the kind of um significant physical issues okay there's people getting paid
00:29:44.960 20 bucks an hour who sole job is to stop a kid from hurting other kids from hurting them from
00:29:52.960 destroying a classroom well so and a lot of those EAs wild I was talking to the principals the other
00:29:59.120 day and they were saying like that the most of those EAs now have at least responsible for at
00:30:03.840 at least six to nine students per EA.
00:30:06.260 So what ends up happening is they're focused on one child.
00:30:10.580 And the only time they really have time
00:30:12.160 to give any other attention to the other kids
00:30:14.460 that they're supposed to be helping
00:30:15.480 is when that child isn't there.
00:30:18.900 And what I'm hearing happening actually a lot right now,
00:30:21.160 which is really also kind of gross,
00:30:23.280 is because our schools don't have enough EAs
00:30:27.380 to support kids with special needs.
00:30:30.400 Special needs kids are getting, they're getting called,
00:30:33.080 the parents are getting called every day and say, come pick them up. Yeah. Come pick them up. Or,
00:30:36.780 you know what? Don't come to school today. We cannot have you. And so like the idea that kids,
00:30:40.600 like kids should be able to go to school is gone. And yeah, it's really awful. And I think like,
00:30:46.760 and then I think, you know, you want kids to perform better. You got it. You got to have
00:30:51.760 more teachers. You got to have smaller class size. You have to have more supports. It's not
00:30:55.620 rocket science. You have to have people trained in psychology, trained in child psychology,
00:31:00.760 train in physical they give these EAs like a weekend course in like directing because you're
00:31:06.540 not allowed to touch the kids either what these should be the highest paid by the by
00:31:11.200 yeah those people physically EAs yeah and the EAs and you know I mean take the 350 from that guy
00:31:17.900 that's doing all the trust yeah well all those EAs like I meet those folks all the time and they
00:31:22.180 are the boy I tell you they they care so much so much and it's it's so hard and then principals who
00:31:28.120 ending up i met principal the other day uh from kingston she had three schools that she was
00:31:34.200 responsible for in three different parts of the city actually one part was on the island
00:31:38.280 one school's on the island so like a principal taking her three separate schools
00:31:45.000 so what do we expect from our education system if we have a government that thinks that this 0.94
00:31:49.320 is like bargain basement is the approach to education like what do i admit a teacher the
00:31:53.640 other day you'll you'll like this i think she i was talking to some bunch of teachers and
00:31:57.560 and one of them said to me an elementary teacher she said you know i i'm really tired every day
00:32:02.760 but i love what i do and i i you know i really still love what i do um but and the reason i
00:32:07.640 keep doing it is because these kids are the ones that are going to be taking care of us one day
00:32:13.320 well that's the bottom line it's bad for business that's it you don't want to be empathetic you
00:32:19.480 don't want to have any morals you want to have any ethics you want to care about kids cool
00:32:22.840 cool cool fine be that but you if you're a businessman which we all know you're not
00:32:28.940 if you're a businessman mr ford how do you not invest in the future business of your province
00:32:39.020 this is it so the more that you screw around and save money here the more that you negate the more
00:32:44.760 that you abdicate the only thing i can think of the only goal i can see is you're looking to break
00:32:52.560 it you don't have to pay for it anymore and you're looking to do what danielle smith is doing which 0.97
00:32:57.440 is create a charter system which is push pull money out of the public system in order to put 0.99
00:33:03.280 it over here under the delusion of school choice that's all i can so so so that companies again
00:33:09.360 can make more money off of education and yeah and to control it and i i think that's probably where
00:33:16.000 they want to head but what i know right now is that every time we ask these questions like what
00:33:21.200 what you're raising now, what we get from the minister is a whole bunch of distraction.
00:33:25.620 He just throws, oh, you know, it's about the trustees and it's about the this and that.
00:33:29.680 And it's like, you know what?
00:33:30.900 You have had the reins for eight years, your government.
00:33:35.260 Things have gotten worse under you.
00:33:37.400 That's on them.
00:33:38.400 And the answer is like right before you.
00:33:41.260 Everybody is saying the same thing.
00:33:42.780 Everybody's talking about the same thing.
00:33:43.900 You just have to invest in kids.
00:33:46.240 You got to invest in the resources.
00:33:47.460 That's what it is.
00:33:48.060 You know what?
00:33:48.520 And on that note, I think what we should do next is just go find out where Paul is.
00:33:51.680 Yeah, let's go find Paul.
00:33:52.920 All right, let's go.
00:33:55.600 Dismissed.