00:00:00.120Hello, and welcome back to Bitchy History, the show where we dig through the archives, ruin everyone's favorite comforting myths, and occasionally find a woman in a sensible suit, standing in front of a cage, insisting that the lock is actually a perk.1.00
00:00:12.240Today, unfortunately, we are talking about Phyllis Schlafly.0.78
00:00:15.740And we're not starting in the 1970s, not in the Equal Rights Amendment fight, not in a state legislature full of men suddenly very concerned about the delicate constitutional condition of American womanhood.
00:00:25.800We're starting in 2026, because apparently the Schlafly family business is still selling the same product.
00:00:32.440Dependents with a warranty and a Fox News login.
00:00:38.180Something that's, you know, kind of bitchy.1.00
00:10:08.980Women are different, therefore women belong in different roles.1.00
00:10:12.520Women are mothers, therefore motherhood is their natural fulfillment.0.99
00:10:16.480Women are wives, therefore marriage must preserve male provision.0.96
00:10:20.320Women are physically different, therefore sex-neutral law is dangerous.0.97
00:10:24.660Women are vulnerable to war, divorce, sexuality, work, and modernity, therefore patriarchy becomes protection.0.96
00:10:31.480This is where Schlafly fits into a much longer history of what we might call flattering containment.0.99
00:10:37.060Women have often been revered and demeaned at the same time.0.95
00:10:40.440They're put on pedestals, called morally superior, told they're delicate, nurturing, spiritually refined, naturally self-sacrificing, and uniquely suited to care.
00:10:49.920That can sound like praise, but it is praise with a leash attached.
00:10:53.900It's the old benevolent sexism problem.1.00
00:10:56.240Women are treasured precisely so they can be limited.
00:11:00.060American history is littered with this argument.1.00
00:11:02.82019th century separate spheres ideology told women that they were morally superior but belonged in the home.0.96
00:11:09.100Anti-suffrage activists argued that women didn't need the vote because they already had influence as wives and mothers.0.86
00:11:15.600Southern paternalism argued that white women had the right to protection, which also meant the obligation to obey.
00:11:22.300Post-war domestic ideology told women that true fulfillment came through marriage, childhood, and housewifery,
00:11:28.320and when women were unhappy with that arrangement, the culture often diagnosed the woman rather than the arrangement.
00:11:34.600Schlafly didn't invent this tradition, she just modernized it.0.99
00:11:37.760She took the old argument that women are special and used it against constitutional equality.0.64
00:11:43.380Nowhere does this become clearer than in her attack on the Equal Rights Amendment.
00:11:47.300The ERA emerged from a much longer history of women's rights activism.0.99
00:11:51.460Alice Paul first introduced the idea in the 1920s after the ratification of the 19th Amendment.0.99
00:11:58.340If women were citizens, then equality on the basis of sex should be constitutionally protected.0.53
00:12:02.980By the 1960s and 1970s, second wave feminism, civil rights activism, workplace discrimination cases,0.98
00:12:10.300reproductive rights battles, Title IX, welfare rights organizing, and women's growing political activism
00:12:15.780all helped revive the ERA as part of a broader push to outlaw sex discrimination in the United
00:12:21.300States. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 with overwhelming bipartisan support and went
00:12:28.120to the states for ratification. Within the first year, 30 states had ratified it. It looked for a
00:12:33.560brief moment like the ERA might become part of the Constitution. Then Schlafly entered the chat.
00:12:39.840In The Power of the Christian Woman, she warns that the women who think the ERA simply means1.00
00:12:44.100equal pay for equal work are in for a big shock. In the flip side of feminism, Schlafly and Suzanne0.96
00:12:50.560Vinker admit that the Equal Rights Amendment sounded so benign that who could possibly oppose1.00
00:12:55.320it, and then describe their organization, Stop ERA, as a little band of women in red working
00:13:00.920from Schlafly's kitchen without internet, email, fax machines, Rush Limbaugh, or Fox News.0.96
00:13:06.980They frame Schlafly's movement as a kind of conservative David against feminist Goliath,
00:13:11.440One Midwestern mother against presidents, Hollywood, feminists, universities, newspapers, Congress, and the entire modern world.0.88
00:13:19.480And politically, that story worked, unfortunately, because Schlafly was not only arguing law, she was staging emotional theater.
00:13:26.740Draft panic, custody panic, husband support panic, bathroom panic, abortion panic, gay rights panic, federal courts panic, women will become men panic.
00:14:26.680Laws did often assume husbands were providers and wives were dependents.
00:14:30.500The legal system did contain protections for wives, widows, mothers, and homemakers based on women's dependent position within a marriage.
00:14:38.380But Schlafly interpreted those structures upside down.
00:14:41.820In a world where women were paid less, pushed out of economic power, punished for motherhood, denied full access to professions, and culturally pressured into marriage, husbandly support could matter.
00:21:02.120that is a vintage Schlafly original. In Who Will Rock the Cradle, Schlafly frames the child care
00:21:07.860debate by asking whether we're talking about child care, meaning the care of children, or
00:21:12.700support for daycare, or federal financing and regulation of institutional daycare. Then she
00:21:18.840makes the pivot. The question is not, is woman's place in the home, but is the child's place in0.56
00:21:24.760the home? That's rhetorically clever, I guess. She moves the debate away from women's autonomy1.00
00:21:30.700and towards child protection. Then she lands the ultimate question, who will control the raising0.96
00:21:36.140of our children, the government or the family? In Schlafly's world, public child care was never
00:21:41.460just child care. It was government takeover. It's the village coming for your baby. It's feminism
00:21:46.900outsourcing motherhood. It's the state replacing the family. It's Marxism with tiny chairs.1.00
00:21:52.820And again, watch the trick. Public support is tyranny. Private dependence is freedom.
00:21:57.780Helping parents afford care is government seizure, but making women dependent on marriage is freedom because the cage has gingham curtains.1.00
00:22:06.360In Who Killed the American Family, Schlafly places daycare among the long feminist assaults on the family,1.00
00:22:12.180writing that feminist demands for federally financed daycare appeared repeatedly over the decades.0.78
00:22:18.020She also identifies taxpayer-paid daycare as one of the hot-button issues at the 1977 International Women's Year Conference,
00:22:25.040alongside the ERA, abortion, and gay rights.1.00
00:22:28.840And in The Flipside of Feminism, Schlafly and Vinker argue that women on the left0.58
00:22:32.680pursue abortion and daycare because babies are an obstacle to equality.0.53
00:22:41.320Public support becomes anti-family.0.99
00:22:43.800Anything that makes women less dependent on husbands becomes a threat to civilization.
00:22:48.620Schlafly's politics require motherhood to be privatized, feminized, and morally compulsory.1.00
00:22:53.880Not because she hates mothers, that would be too simple, but because her entire political worldview depends on the family absorbing care work privately, with women doing the labor and men occupying the role of provider slash protector.1.00
00:23:08.420If the state helps with child care, women have more options.0.99
00:23:12.000If women have more options, marriage becomes less economically compulsory.
00:23:16.680If marriage becomes less economically compulsory, male provision loses some of its political power.
00:23:21.820and if that happens then the whole protection bargain starts looking less like sacred order
00:23:26.840and more like a rigged contract. Schlafly knew that which brings us to the book Feminist Fantasies1.00
00:23:33.020which is basically Schlafly's anti-feminist greatest hits album except all the songs are
00:23:38.240about how women are unhappy because they stopped listening to Phyllis. In that book Schlafly argues1.00
00:23:43.600that feminism has nothing to do with being feminine which I guess she's right about the1.00
00:23:48.680two words have nothing to do with each other. She contrasts feminists with what she calls the1.00
00:23:52.940professional homemaker, whom she describes as a happy woman. The 1950s homemakers drug to the1.00
00:23:59.380gills with tranquilizers might have something to say about that, but Phyllis wasn't asking.0.72
00:24:04.480This is a repeated Schlafly move. Feminists are not merely wrong. They are miserable. They're1.00
00:32:09.700Why did it need economic dependence?0.94
00:32:12.220Why did it need panic campaigns against daycare, divorce, equal rights, gay people, bathrooms, abortion, and women in public life?0.99
00:32:19.220Why did it need books, speeches, lobbying groups, church networks, newsletters, court battles, state legislatures, and an entire conservative media ecosystem standing guard around the kitchen door?0.90
00:32:31.100That's always the part that gives the game away.1.00
00:32:34.040Schlafly and women like her insist that motherhood, domesticity, and dependence on male provision are women's natural destiny.1.00
00:32:40.780But if that were true in the way they claim, they wouldn't need to keep building fences around every other option.1.00
00:32:46.720Feminists are not, generally speaking, trying to ban women from being mothers.1.00
00:32:51.520Feminists are not trying to outlaw homemaking.1.00
00:32:53.720Feminists are not trying to drag happy stay-at-home wives into the street1.00
00:32:57.200and force them into blazers at clipboard point.1.00
00:33:00.140And yes, I know that every movement does have fringe extremes
00:33:03.180because human beings can ruin absolutely anything, including brunch and political theory.0.96
00:33:08.120But the broad feminist project has never been that women must reject motherhood,0.99
00:33:12.460family, marriage, religion, or domestic life in order to be free.
00:33:15.920The point is that those roles should not be compulsory or enforced by society.
00:33:21.320That's the distinction that Schlafly's entire political ideology worked so hard to blur.
00:33:26.200A woman choosing to stay home is not the problem.0.99
00:33:29.080A political movement trying to make staying home the only respectable, affordable, moral, socially protected option is the problem.
00:33:36.460A woman loving motherhood is not the problem.0.77
00:33:38.580A political system using motherhood to deny women bodily autonomy, economic independence,0.95
00:33:44.020public authority, and legal equality is the problem.
00:33:47.360A woman building a traditional marriage because she genuinely wants one is not the problem.
00:33:52.360A movement that treats women's dependence on husbands as the foundation of civilization is.
00:33:57.880And that is why Schlafly's version of choice was always so hollow.0.94
00:34:01.540She claimed to defend women who valued home and family, but she didn't simply defend their1.00