00:00:00.000Yeah, well, it didn't seem like too much of a big deal at first, but he kind of told me that it meant a lot to him, so I was glad I was able to help.
00:00:30.000Okay, I jotted down four bullet points.
00:00:41.260Do you think that's enough for me to go off of?
00:09:25.420And I thought, that's not true, but the more I think about it, it really is, because I think if he could have one person to have his back and to try to help the bullying and stuff, then that could make a big difference and that can potentially kind of save his life.
00:09:55.420So with the story of the paper, it sounded like you were kind of recognizing, well, I can't undo what I did last year, but I can do something different this time.
00:10:15.320Yeah, that was what I was thinking about.
00:10:20.660I mean, I didn't want to make the mistake and do the same thing.
00:10:23.520i wanted to help him instead well i mean i saw him like at lunch and stuff and i saw people
00:10:36.380making fun of him and they were telling him that he was a girl
00:10:39.500and you could tell he was pretty upset and to be honest with you i was kind of afraid
00:10:50.100to talk to him at first because I thought you know if I hung out with him then people would
00:11:00.620think badly of me and I didn't want to kind of run the friendships that I had because
00:11:09.720I have quite a few friends I guess and I didn't want to risk losing them
00:11:19.280but I thought about it more and I talked to you about it and I decided I was just going to go for
00:11:28.620it and there was this one time he was wearing a shirt it was like pink and it was tie-dye
00:11:39.620and as far as I know you know he really liked the shirt he was proud of it
00:11:46.600but the kids, they, they didn't like it. So, you know, they were calling him a fag and stuff0.97
00:11:57.340and they put ketchup on his shirt. So he left somewhere. I mean, I don't know where he went,0.98
00:12:10.180but when I got back to class, I didn't see him there because I had this class with him.
00:12:16.600and i text you and i'm like well i told you what happened and i said i don't see ethan in my class
00:31:00.000Well, it's like a new way of answering the question of like how to how do you reconcile the either the cultural or internalized drive to be tough as a man with.
00:31:21.120But so how do you reconcile that with sort of more empathetic feelings of I want to help out another person and be emotionally responsive to that other person?
00:31:36.520I think those two things are often positioned as polar opposites.
00:31:41.620Like you're either tough and strong or you're empathetic and nurturing.
00:31:51.120and I think that your story is a new example
00:31:55.860of how those two things can actually be brought together