Culture Club - AI's Fashion Infiltration, Charli XCX's Brat Wedding & Trisha Paytas' Baby Conspiracy

00:00:00.000 Harry Styles' new pleasurable product line, Charlie XCX gets hitched and Vogue US publishes

00:00:14.200 AI modelled ads in print. I'm Maggie Zhao and I'm Jasmine Wallace and you're listening

00:00:19.680 to Culture Club, where we chat about pop culture, current affairs, the internet and our lives.

00:00:25.200 today we're on the lands of the Rwandri Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nations

00:00:32.880 we would like to pay our respects to elders past and present and extend this to any

00:00:37.260 Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander listeners today

00:00:39.920 we're recording on a weekend this week it's been a busy week for the both of us you've

00:00:48.240 been running around you went to an AFL game yesterday you got your hair cut this morning

00:00:53.080 It looks fresh.

00:00:54.240 Thank you.

00:00:54.800 I got my hair done at Harpo Hair.

00:00:56.880 Got quite a bit.

00:00:57.740 I think this is my last haircut before the wedding.

00:00:59.560 Oh, my gosh.

00:01:00.780 It is coming up quite soon for those who don't know.

00:01:03.740 Jazz is getting married in November.

00:01:05.800 November is soon.

00:01:07.300 November is soon.

00:01:09.020 We were at a lunch yesterday.

00:01:11.280 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:01:12.380 But I was talking to someone saying, oh, my wedding's in November.

00:01:15.440 And she was like, oh, that's like six months away.

00:01:17.120 And I was like, nope, it's like three and a half.

00:01:19.880 Wow.

00:01:20.240 She was like, wait, oh, yeah, we're already in August.

00:01:22.260 so actually after this record i have to run to a wedding dress fitting stop it this is like i've

00:01:28.360 got my measurements done and this is like the fitting so they've made the like core of the

00:01:32.920 dress yeah and they're just checking in and then i think i'll have like one or two and then pick it

00:01:37.760 up close to the wedding that's so exciting so this is your first proper fitting after you tried it on

00:01:42.560 initially yes because you try on like a sample so it's just like the closest it can be and then

00:01:47.580 yeah they took my measurements so hopefully it's all good but yeah I'm excited yeah that's a big

00:01:53.640 day for you a big day but very fun very fun so the lunch we went to yesterday was actually the

00:02:00.040 pre-launch for the Melbourne International Film Festival which is back from August 7 to August 24

00:02:06.640 yeah I love myth I actually think last year might have been my first year but I dived headfirst

00:02:13.220 fearless i think i went to see like five films or something this year i'm so annoyed i'm out of the

00:02:19.580 country for all of it literally the dates are like exactly when i'm away but there are so many good

00:02:26.640 films and i'm jealous so yesterday at lunch we got to hear from the program curator kate jinx

00:02:32.820 who has the coolest job so basically she travels all around the world and she goes to different

00:02:37.480 film festivals like Cannes, Berlin International Film Festival, LA, and heaps more. And then she

00:02:44.360 like handpicks all the best ones that are going to be shown in Melbourne and like what is relevant

00:02:49.020 for Australian audiences. So there's a huge range of international and local films, panel discussions,

00:02:55.220 industry events. They are held at like city venues, like Acme, Capital Forum, Cinema Nova,

00:03:02.800 with Stan and there's also a few regional Victorian venues so they'll be showing some

00:03:07.580 like Bendigo, Geelong, Castlemaine, Shepparton and more. This is not an ad like we are genuinely

00:03:11.940 just passionate about local film and supporting the arts so totally go out and check it out.

00:03:18.540 Well I will be there, you'll be away. I'll be there for one week because we're going

00:03:22.260 to Bali. Oh my god we're going to Bali for Jazza's Hens so that's going to be so fun.

00:03:27.240 With Miff as well right usually there's one or two big films that really are the talking

00:03:32.420 point of the season and then go on to be like a big mainstream successor for instance last year

00:03:36.980 the substance was premiered here in terms of like australia for um for myth like a good month

00:03:43.880 out before it was released to the general public so you're kind of in the know yes when you go

00:03:49.100 yes and um there's kristen stewart's directorial debut is um playing at myth so many like check out

00:03:56.820 the program there's like 250 films across two weeks so it's huge. Now it's time for Culture

00:04:02.360 Quickie where we talk about some of the biggest headlines from the week but we go through them

00:04:06.480 fast. First up is The Devil Wears Prada 2 has started filming. We've been seeing some sweet

00:04:13.340 as pap shots of Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway on the streets of New York. I am so excited for this

00:04:20.740 but I do worry that we're seeing too much. It's because it's being filmed in New York City rather

00:04:26.540 than like somewhere you know out a bit pretending to be new york but i'm like i don't want any

00:04:30.700 spoilers like i know you can't tell what the plot line is but just seeing the outfits and stuff i'm

00:04:35.620 like i want to save it all for like the actual movie did you see meryl streep's character

00:04:41.220 holding a bedazzled like water bottle yeah and the commentary was like as if miranda priestly is

00:04:48.660 holding her own water bottle like what have they done to this character so to recession indicator

00:04:53.300 she's holding her own water bottle rather than having like Evian or San Pellegrino like delivered 0.57

00:04:57.720 to her on tap that is such a good shout her outfit looked amazing she looks so chic she was wearing

00:05:03.360 this like beautiful like purple and like brown get up with this coat and she's got her signature

00:05:08.500 like gray side quiff happening ill quiff just downgraded it but you know what I mean like

00:05:14.880 side swept hair um she looks amazing and Hathaway has been spotted in a few outfits too people are

00:05:21.300 kind of mixed on her outfits I'm seeing a lot of commentary which is like this is supposed to be a

00:05:26.320 fashion film like why is she wearing that but whatever I'm excited yeah so excited it's meant

00:05:31.560 to be out May 1st 2026 reportedly and the storyline will follow Miranda Priestly as she navigates her

00:05:38.440 career amid the decline of traditional magazine publishing and faces off against Emily Blunt's

00:05:44.140 character Emily Charlton who's now a high-powered executive for a luxury group with advertising

00:05:50.140 dollars that miranda priestly desperately needs i love this and it's so like for the meaty girlies

00:05:56.660 but like the my main thing is okay where's andy's character well andy went to like back to

00:06:03.520 journalism like hard news so yeah true like is she still a hard news reporter like that's

00:06:08.100 in decline as well i love that they've really tried to bring back the original cast for this

00:06:13.780 so of course we just said meryl streep and anne hathaway as well as emily blunt and stanley

00:06:18.660 Tucci will be back as well. Our favourite brother and sister-in-law. Oh stop I forgot that's my

00:06:24.780 favourite fun fact so true so true I love that. The original film screenwriter is also back on

00:06:30.540 board for this as is the producer and director so it's very much like the same same kind of

00:06:35.760 cast and crew which is very exciting but there are a lot of new names that have been rumoured

00:06:42.140 all confirmed to be part of this film such as simone ashley famously from bridgerton which is

00:06:49.080 so fun also lucy lu justin thoreau bj novak pauline charlamé so from sex lives for college

00:06:56.500 girls but timothy charlamé's sister which took me way too long to put together and i'll tell you a

00:07:01.840 fun fact as well about this do you know patrick brammell not off the top of my head no he's an

00:07:06.900 Australian actor and he's in Colin from Accounts so if someone if someone's seen that he's a main

00:07:12.040 lead in that guess what he's playing Anne Hathaway's love interest. Good she needs a good

00:07:16.980 love interest Andy. I love that. Not the actual villain from the last movie. Yeah true oh my god

00:07:23.280 never let that be lived down but I just feel like second-hand pride that I'm like Anne Hathaway

00:07:28.680 is playing against like an Australian actor. So good. Speaking of sequels as well how can you

00:07:36.100 for freakier friday i'm so excited i'm seeing that in like a week after this drops are you

00:07:41.480 going to premiere yeah i saw an ad for this uh where was i i was out oh at the footy and we're

00:07:47.200 at marvel stadium disney blah blah so they were playing like all the ads and the freakier friday

00:07:51.720 ad came up on screen and i was like i am so sad i didn't get invited to the prayer sorry i would

00:07:56.860 have invited you if i knew but you always get invited to the movies anyway let's not get into

00:08:01.520 You always get the private advice.

00:08:03.040 Wait, who are you taking? 0.99

00:08:03.900 Emily.

00:08:04.500 Oh, that's nice.

00:08:05.780 Yes.

00:08:06.320 Okay.

00:08:06.920 Sorry.

00:08:07.260 I will allow.

00:08:09.860 Shout out if anyone's got a spare plus one.

00:08:12.220 Shaz is keen.

00:08:13.420 I'll go pay to see it.

00:08:15.040 I will support Lindsay Lohan.

00:08:17.540 Yeah.

00:08:17.960 And I just need you to know off the back of your recommendation last week,

00:08:21.520 my God, this is a big movie episode.

00:08:23.560 You recommended Superman and I'm going to be seeing it in a week.

00:08:26.480 So I'm following your rec.

00:08:27.860 And I'm going to see Fantastic Four as well, the movies.

00:08:29.640 Love that.

00:08:30.000 you saw that didn't you no i haven't seen it okay okay that's enough we can go together

00:08:34.400 another big headline this week was of course that trisha paytas has birthed her third child

00:08:42.020 if you don't know trisha paytas is a big social media star she's known for her kind of comedy 1.00

00:08:48.320 quirky sometimes problematic and controversial video she's got like 10 million followers on

00:08:55.340 TikTok and she's known for like her like YouTube mukbangs and among other things right just

00:09:00.160 internet celebrity internet celebrity but not a mainstream celebrity which I think needs to be 0.97

00:09:04.320 made clear but this week she has really entered mainstream headlines because of her baby conspiracy

00:09:11.060 theory and this isn't a new conspiracy theory so also big news this week is that the lead singer

00:09:17.780 of Black Sabbath and rock legend Ozzy Osbourne also passed away at the age of 76 but her new

00:09:24.720 child named Aquaman Moses was also born on the same day and this is a three for three on the

00:09:32.500 conspiracy theory that Trisha Paytas's children are reincarnations of famous people. Yep yep yep

00:09:40.740 so the theory started when she had her firstborn famously named Malibu Barbie. It was about a week

00:09:47.620 after Queen Elizabeth II had died right and then people were like oh my god it's a queen reincarnated

00:09:54.000 the rumor mill continued when she gave birth to another daughter Elvis in May 2024 and let's be

00:10:01.220 real the timeline didn't really like match up exactly but people were like oh my god the Pope

00:10:07.820 has died and this baby has been born so yeah there was a bit more time in between them but

00:10:12.600 who's gonna let facts kind of ruin a good story so then it happened again people knew Trisha was

00:10:19.360 about to give birth and they were actually online hoping for it to be Donald Trump dying like the

00:10:25.300 timing it was like okay there was all these room well stories coming out that he's sick um with

00:10:30.920 like some sort of heart failure thing and Trisha's baby's about to be born and so people were like

00:10:35.720 manifesting but then sadly it was actually Ozzy Osbourne who died on the same day and Trisha has

00:10:42.540 actually spoken about this theory in April of this year she said I just don't get it is it just any

00:10:48.360 influential person that dies gets to come reincarnated as my baby and yes trisha that is

00:10:54.360 the case i mean trump trump is older than biden and i think people forget that sometimes and he's

00:11:00.640 old and sick and sick and what a shame you can't tell me that donald trump is like a healthy man

00:11:06.880 no anyway trisha needs to get back no but she's getting her tubes tied oh okay well no more because

00:11:14.200 there was another funny thing i saw online where it was like she straight away has come out and

00:11:17.820 said like she's getting her tubes tied and then people were joking like the reincarnation portal

00:11:21.380 has closed and then wwe star hulk hogan he died like yesterday and there's a hilarious like toy

00:11:28.500 story gif meme going around where it's like buzz light you're like flying about to fly out the 0.53

00:11:33.540 window and then it shuts and people like that's hulk hogan trying to go through the trish paytas

00:11:39.480 reincarnation portal god i love your online brain yeah it's total brain rot stuff but it's a little

00:11:46.320 bit of a laugh a news lawsuit has alleged that rebel wilson has quote deliberately undermined

00:11:59.140 the release of her new musical movie the deb according to the sydney morning herald the

00:12:04.980 company behind rebel's directorial debut a uk-based company called ai films filed a lawsuit

00:12:12.340 against her in the new south wales supreme court a local story for us today i'm shocked by this i

00:12:21.400 wasn't across this story i didn't even know about this film that came out last year the deb well

00:12:27.340 this is this is the thing right because we saw this news and i was gonna ask you have you heard

00:12:33.480 of this or have you seen it well to be honest guess what i was on youtube trying to look at

00:12:37.380 the trailer for this movie and I could not find it okay granted I spent like 40 seconds looking

00:12:41.880 but I ended up watching a song from the movie so for those who don't know this is a musical comedy

00:12:48.180 and just for a quick rundown about the um synopsis it follows like a lovable farm girl and high school

00:12:55.880 outcast her name's Taylor so this is set in Australia who views the upcoming debutante ball 1.00

00:13:01.540 so the Deb as her chance to redefine herself but then her cynical city cousin Maeve is sent to the 0.97

00:13:10.220 same town that Taylor's in and Maeve thinks the ball is a quote heteronormative shit show and 0.93

00:13:16.440 disrupts the status quo so that's kind of like the general plot line kind of city versus rural

00:13:22.600 storyline as well the film actually premiered on the 15th of September 2024 as the closing film

00:13:29.320 of the Toronto International Film Festival

00:13:31.920 but hasn't actually been released to the general public yet.

00:13:35.280 Watching the music video, I guess if you want to call it that,

00:13:38.520 from the film, it actually did look familiar to me

00:13:40.860 and I don't know if that was just like a random wrong brain moment.

00:13:44.300 I was like, have I seen something like this before?

00:13:46.420 Like have I seen talks of this before?

00:13:48.300 Like years ago perhaps when it was first in production?

00:13:51.300 I'm not sure but like maybe it felt kind of familiar.

00:13:55.120 Well now it might not be released for even longer

00:13:57.900 because of this lawsuit so basically ai film has half the rights to this movie

00:14:03.400 alongside rebel and her own production company called camp sugar but ai film is alleging that

00:14:10.320 the comedian has spread false information online and breached her contract which as a result is

00:14:15.980 affecting the film's release so tell me more about the actual court lawsuit case it is kind of

00:14:23.040 confusing to be honest even some of the reports i was reading were like it's all very legal jargon

00:14:27.880 but the lawsuit's documents said quote wilson threatened the australian distributor of the film

00:14:34.360 that she would obtain an injunction to prevent its release when the contractual documents plainly

00:14:40.740 prevented her from obtaining an injunction so that means that like wilson was like i'm going to stop

00:14:47.080 this movie being released because of you guys but in the contract it says like you cannot what's

00:14:52.220 like putting a stop to something like okay and then yeah if you like put injunction on someone

00:14:57.180 you can be like i want you to stop what you're doing messy this is her directorial debut like

00:15:02.780 wouldn't she want it to become successful like why doesn't she want this film out in the world

00:15:07.700 like what happened during her she's just not happy with it it was it's messy for a lot of reasons

00:15:12.740 right but i also saw that in july of last year rebel wilson actually took to instagram to like

00:15:19.300 put out some allegations around the cast and creatives so she accused fellow producers amanda

00:15:26.820 ghost and gregor cameron and vince holden of alleged embezzlement sexual misconduct and

00:15:33.760 obstructing the film's release which is kind of awkward because isn't that what she's trying to do

00:15:37.460 it's so messy also i do need to clarify in that context an injunction is to stop rebel doing

00:15:44.380 something but an injunction can also be to make someone do something so it's like both ways okay

00:15:49.240 just in case there's any like lawyers listening like that's not incorrect yeah so as you can see

00:15:53.540 this is all very very messy and it's just news this week rebel also broadcast those kind of

00:16:02.500 accusations against producers to her 11 million instagram followers um last year so there's like

00:16:09.280 defamation things going on um the film's lead actor charlotte mckinnis uh who rebel claimed

00:16:15.640 was the victim of the alleged sexual misconduct she filed a declaration in the u.s saying that

00:16:22.240 rebel made up the claims basically and she described them as completely false and absurd

00:16:27.280 the court then threw out rebel's bid to strike out the defamation suit okay so where we are now

00:16:35.420 is that ai film is seeking damages a formal apology corrective advertising and a permanent

00:16:41.620 restraint on rebel wilson and her company from making any further disparaging claims oh my god

00:16:47.900 what is happening to the filmer rebel is actually familiar with lawsuits because in 2017 she actually

00:16:55.500 won a defamation case against bauer media they are the australian publishers of women's day women's

00:17:01.380 weekly okay magazine and new weekly and the lawsuit stemmed from articles that were published back in

00:17:07.680 2015 and they claimed that rebel lied about her age her real name and her childhood originally

00:17:14.740 the courts awarded rebel 4.56 million dollars in damages for this which was a record in australian

00:17:22.240 defamation cases at the time but later on the court of appeal reduced the award just to 600 0.98

00:17:28.100 000 so then she had to pay back the millions of dollars did she have to pay it back that's like

00:17:33.380 four million dollars she had to pay back okay wild so this is not her first rodeo when it comes to

00:17:38.920 court stuff interestingly enough this has made us talk about the film so i don't know i doubt

00:17:45.860 that's on purpose but i'm kind of curious it's it's not every day you get to see a new australian

00:17:51.360 musical comedy on screen and like i would want that to be successful but looks like somebody

00:17:57.900 doesn't it's time for culture shock which is the most shocking cultural news of the week and of

00:18:10.440 course we have to talk about mr harry styles yes we do and we're not talking about him because he's

00:18:17.080 released new music he has released something else entirely he has taken a foray into the sex toy

00:18:24.660 wellness realm. So Harry Styles has a nail polish brand or former nail polish brand I guess called

00:18:30.820 Pleasing but it was announced this week that he's and his brand are releasing a silicone vibrator

00:18:37.000 and lubricant. The vibrator is retailing for 110 Australian dollars and it was co-created with Zoe

00:18:44.040 Ligon who is a sexual wellness entrepreneur who runs a sex positive store called Spectrum Boutique

00:18:50.420 and she's also nicknamed the Duchess of Dildos. Okay, amazing. Who gave her that name? Who's 0.99

00:18:55.920 declaring someone that, you know, like who's getting knighted? Knighted with a dildo on the 0.98

00:18:59.980 issue. So this is a funny thing because I remember when Harry launched Pleasing a few years back now

00:19:05.960 and everyone thought that it would be sex toys, right? Because of the name, people were like,

00:19:10.580 oh wow, what else would it be? But now years on, he has released the first sex toy. According to 0.68

00:19:19.040 the website it is a double-sided and double-ended vibrator and it's designed with quote exploration

00:19:25.660 in mind also on the website it said pleasing encourages users to use the handle as an

00:19:31.240 insertable vibrator the pleasing lube comes in a sleek burgundy colored bottle and it uses fda

00:19:37.760 approved silicon uh to support a wide range of intimate experiences and exploration but i think

00:19:45.480 what people going kind of crazy for was also the advertising for this so

00:19:49.080 in the kind of little teaser lol trailer which is on instagram harry styles encourage fans in his

00:19:56.000 own voice to quote please yourself like you mean it we have to play it here let's hear harry in

00:20:01.740 his own words please yourself like you mean it i actually had not heard that really yeah

00:20:11.460 oh my god i saw like another ad i'm dying i want to bring up something jazz yeah because this is

00:20:20.020 a thing this has been a widely um publicized and applauded kind of news story which is exciting

00:20:28.540 and it's great to see sexual wellness be um in mainstream media but i do want to point out the

00:20:35.100 double standard here i think because i think if a female celebrity was to do something like this 0.96

00:20:40.180 backlash might ensue bear with me let me try to put it in perspective so for instance a local 0.97

00:20:46.240 political commentator Hannah Ferguson has a range of sex toys and I understand she's in a very 0.99

00:20:54.400 different sphere as Harry Styles but she does cop a lot of backlash for that people being like how 1.00

00:20:59.960 are you supposed to be taken seriously if you're putting your name to a product like this I'm 1.00

00:21:04.280 thinking about sydney sweeney who is involved in a lot of sexually like implied advertising 1.00

00:21:11.060 campaigns like you know there was a lot of backlash to her bath water that was being sold

00:21:16.180 apparently um yeah which included some of her actual bath water people literally saying that 1.00

00:21:21.380 she's a downfall of feminism um and and this from harry styles i've not heard someone being like oh

00:21:27.760 this delegitimizes his musical career or his acting career it's just been positive i see

00:21:34.160 your point I don't think we can compare people like like you said you did you can't compare Hannah

00:21:39.280 and someone like Abby Chatfield to a male pop star but I think we have seen this in the past

00:21:45.800 like you and I were gifted the Lily Allen Womanizer sex toy brand and Lily didn't receive any

00:21:50.820 backlash for that and Dakota Johnson is also a creative director at Maud which is a sexual

00:21:59.340 wellness brand focusing on these kind of intimate products that one's a little bit more under the

00:22:04.060 Raider but I think especially the Lily Allen one comes to mind that was like five-ish years ago

00:22:10.120 and I don't think there was as much like it definitely made headlines but I don't think

00:22:15.420 there was anyone being like we're not going to take us seriously I think it was a good move

00:22:19.460 I just think it's interesting like obviously Harry has like Harry doesn't shy away from

00:22:26.000 sexuality I think like obviously Watermelon Sugar and then like he wears quite a lot of

00:22:31.460 t-shirts like keith harring illustrated shirts um there's one that just says sex on it i think

00:22:38.520 i'm just more like why why the sex toy especially when everyone's waiting for music yeah and why 0.61

00:22:45.980 do we start as a nail polish brand and then go into sex toy that's a little bit confusing to me 0.57

00:22:51.960 i mean not complaining the cut is also reporting that pleasing is partnering with planned parenthood

00:22:58.300 to release a range of condoms soon so that's good for like sex education sexual health in the u.s

00:23:03.440 but i have some bad news tell me the bad news pleasing as a brand does ship to australia right

00:23:10.520 but the website is currently noting that the vibrator is only available for shipping in the

00:23:15.940 u.s and the uk for now for now for now you look devastated jazz would you have copped this you

00:23:21.960 think i think i would have just for like it's such a pop culture moment and just like to see it

00:23:28.060 in the flesh in the flesh I don't know I just think like it's a it's a fun pop culture moment

00:23:35.320 such a Harry Styles stance such a One Direction stand I don't know it's just fun to like engage

00:23:40.700 in the culture so you wouldn't uh I don't know I don't think I would to be honest I think

00:23:47.840 Australian Australia has a lot of great sexwear brands anyway but I've noted that down for like

00:23:52.940 a wedding gift wedding registry anybody the it girl the brat girl the party girl of the year

00:24:05.980 charlie xcx has gotten hitched she and her musician slash producer husband george daniel

00:24:13.220 got married in hackney in london last week you might have seen the photos but she wore

00:24:18.940 and off the shoulder Vivian Westwood Nova Cora mini dress with an asymmetrical knee-length skirt

00:24:24.880 and these photos were so sweet wasn't it? It was a sweet courthouse wedding it looked really

00:24:32.920 intimate it looked really like full of love and it was very casual. And lots of family around like

00:24:39.180 on the steps getting photos taken. It was very noticed that the front man of the 1975 Maddie

00:24:46.320 so if people don't know george daniel is the drummer in the 1975 so maddie healy was reportedly

00:24:53.000 in la for the screening of i know what you did last summer because his fiance gabriette stars in

00:24:58.860 it but um other bandmates adam han and ross mcdonald were in attendance okay so earlier in

00:25:05.700 the week maddie did attend the bachelor party in ibiza but then he didn't turn up to the wedding

00:25:12.360 I feel like a wedding trumps a premiere personally but me too but this is the thing

00:25:21.460 it's not the only wedding and I have a gripe to pick for this oh my god tell me everyone is going

00:25:27.800 on about oh my god charlie xdx is so low-key it's so cool like it's so cool to get married in a

00:25:34.360 courthouse I agree with that people are like this is like so many think pieces this is the antidote

00:25:39.220 to the massive celebrity wedding blah blah blah blah blah they're gonna do a second wedding in

00:25:43.880 Sicily which is gonna be a huge star-studded bash you can bet that Troi Sivan is gonna be

00:25:48.940 dancing on tables in Sicily so they're getting the best of both worlds people are praising them

00:25:53.940 for being like just like regular people getting married in courthouse going to a restaurant

00:25:57.920 afterwards like smoking cigarettes outside the wine bar I agree that is really cool it is really

00:26:02.620 brat but people being like is this new era of weddings they're doing that and they're also 0.95

00:26:08.040 getting married doing a big fuck off celebrity a-list wedding in sicily of all places which is 0.97

00:26:14.160 like incredibly expensive to get married in yeah so i'm like are you gonna have it both ways 0.98

00:26:18.720 you're gonna say like oh my god so low-key this is the new era but then ignore the fact that

00:26:24.620 there's gonna be a massive like after party like this is the legal bit yeah if anything i feel like

00:26:29.520 that's more of the trend i've seen it with a few influencers as well they're like get they have

00:26:33.560 like their outfit for their courthouse wedding and they call it like our civil ceremony in the

00:26:37.560 less and then they'll do like a big big party and then like they can have one of their friends like

00:26:42.540 officiate the wedding so you and it's like a month later so you get almost two weddings that's a good

00:26:48.220 point because yeah an insider told people magazine that you know they have this large celebration

00:26:54.020 planned in sicily quote they said that quote somewhere beautiful and private where all their

00:27:01.080 friends can let loose it will be star-studded this was always the plan another source told

00:27:06.660 the sun quote there will be no expense spared Charlie and George said they wanted a massive

00:27:13.380 party and there are no restrictions on when the bar has to close so we can go on all night

00:27:18.400 they also said quote it's costing tens of thousands of pounds and visually it will be

00:27:24.120 mesmerizing the tens of thousands of pounds so it's like low-key like such a rogue number because

00:27:28.680 if it's like 20k pounds that's like the average cost of an Australian wedding like 30 40 thousand

00:27:35.120 dollars so i'm like is that like for them you would be thinking more than tens of thousands

00:27:40.300 of pounds true surely true but yeah it's just getting me when everyone's like on tiktok with

00:27:45.000 their little not to be patronizing but they're like i don't know i don't know why maybe i'm

00:27:48.800 getting upset because i'm getting married in november and it's like i think it's like the

00:27:52.460 discussion around like this is the right way to do it like if you're having a wedding that's like

00:27:58.420 big and flashy in this economy like it's just that whole why are we as like social media viewers

00:28:05.500 having this like opinion on other people's weddings I think that's why I'm so like

00:28:10.760 sensitive about it because I'm maybe I'm scared of getting judged for my own wedding even though

00:28:15.360 I'm like you can listen to the podcast episode I released a few weeks back but like you know

00:28:20.480 trying to keep it low-key and trying to be sensible and like not spend crazy amounts of

00:28:24.260 and stuff so maybe that's why but also people be like oh my god the dress it's so low key and

00:28:29.600 chic it's vivian westwood do you know how much a vivian westwood cost first of all one of the

00:28:34.260 most famous british designers in history anyway that's my rant with the charlie xcx wedding but

00:28:38.940 i loved love this for them love the photos the floral bouquet inspirational

00:28:42.780 fashion brand guess has published print ads in vogue us using ai models

00:28:54.980 we saw this on tiktok and twitter this week people picking up the latest august vogue us

00:29:04.180 print mag flipping through and then showing us a double page spread of a guess ad

00:29:11.440 featuring a blonde tanned and slim model very much objectively like conventionally attractive 0.99

00:29:19.200 and in these ads she's seen carrying you know one of the guest bags she's up against the wall 0.63

00:29:24.020 and then in another photo she's like sitting down like enjoying a coffee at a cafe and then if you

00:29:30.200 look at the tiny print on the corner of one of the pages there is a disclaimer quote produced by

00:29:36.800 seraphine velora on ai so this is an ai marketing agency that creates quote editorial level ai

00:29:45.320 driven marketing campaigns and cinematic videos jazz i want a live reaction can you open the

00:29:51.660 instagram and tell me what you think about it i genuinely have not seen this are they all ai yeah

00:30:00.100 oh my god this is so depressing uh for those who have not yet opened their page the page to me

00:30:06.720 feels really creepy because it's these super model hot women quote unquote women who to me

00:30:13.520 are reminiscent of actual supermodels yeah you can see that like adriana lima yes they've just

00:30:19.220 pulled her face yes this is so it's so depressing because the beauty standards were already so hard

00:30:26.940 to live up to just by having these like naturally you know genetically beautiful people being the 0.83

00:30:32.960 models or you know they've had modifications done but for women to now be and people in general to 0.99

00:30:39.800 now be competing with literal animations of like what an algorithm thinks is like the perfect 0.99

00:30:46.040 woman or conventionally attractive what's the point like where do we go from here

00:30:51.180 it's so like depressing to me like this page feels so tailored to the male gaze and it's just like

00:31:01.040 the other side of this to me is it's not creative no especially the published guest ads in Vogue

00:31:09.620 they're literally so boring like there's nothing exciting or interesting about it and it's

00:31:15.160 interesting because um a lot of the commentary online is like vogue has used ai and you know

00:31:21.600 it's an ad that they publish from guess and i'm curious what you think like who what who does the

00:31:27.620 onus fall on is it vogue or guesses i guess fault it's definitely guesses fault because they are the

00:31:33.740 ones who have approved this marketing and the messaging they are the ones who use ai models

00:31:38.800 instead of paying actual people paying for a producer on set paying for the set themselves

00:31:44.620 like how this must be fucking up the economy so bad if terms of like okay rather than spending

00:31:49.480 what twenty thousand dollars on this ad that's just such a rough number i don't know we're going 0.74

00:31:54.080 to put all that twenty thousand dollars straight to this ai agency which is paying yes that ai

00:31:58.560 agency but all those creative people who normally work on advertising shoots have just lost money

00:32:02.560 so i think it is definitely on guests i don't think this is a good look for guests fashion as

00:32:06.580 well I know that they've been trying to revitalize their brand in the past couple of years I don't

00:32:11.420 know anyone who wears guests no it's when I think about it it does give like tacky vibes but I

00:32:17.460 wouldn't even think about like what it looks like now because I just don't see it much we probably

00:32:22.580 are in a bubble like I'm sure there's a huge demographic that we're missing who wear guests

00:32:26.800 but like you said Vogue also chose to publish the ad but I think that's more of a statement on the

00:32:34.480 magazine industry I know from working in media and working in branded content especially

00:32:40.320 the economy is at a point where publications are in positions where they genuinely feel that they

00:32:46.820 cannot say no to certain advertisers because the publishing industry is in such a state and they

00:32:52.740 can't afford to pay journalists and stuff I think that Vogue was in a position of like even though

00:32:57.720 they're such a prestigious brand Condé Nast how well is that doing they just approved it because

00:33:02.820 they'll they probably will say like oh people like you and i are talking on this podcast will

00:33:06.980 point the finger at guests but it is interesting that people online have been like oh vogue vogue

00:33:11.480 like the downfall of vogue so it's not a good look on either of them no it's not and some users

00:33:16.660 online have pointed out that vogue has used ai um for like cover for cover images in different

00:33:23.280 editions so for instance in um singapore in china in vogue italia philippines they have used ai

00:33:31.360 to be honest though when I'm looking at those covers they're quite beautiful and they they

00:33:38.680 sometimes some of them use um actual models and they're kind of like elevated through AI and stuff

00:33:43.460 like that and like backgrounds and virtual and some of them look so futuristic like it's

00:33:47.460 intentional that it doesn't look real and I think when AI is harnessed for actual creativity

00:33:53.800 and it's used like in conjunction with actual creatives I'm more happy about it happy is a

00:34:02.380 stretch but I'm more accepting of it whereas when I'm looking at this guest ad which is just like

00:34:07.980 void of soul and creativity it's like why are we even here but Sarah Fien Valora actually made a

00:34:15.340 statement to this backlash and I hate it so much it's such a contradiction it says we want to be

00:34:21.320 clear this isn't about replacing photographers or models we don't believe in that this is a new

00:34:27.080 avenue for marketing and storytelling a new way for creatives to express themselves and for brands

00:34:33.140 to create high-end campaigns at scale that's it just a different group a different group of

00:34:40.560 creatives doing what they do best with heart vision and a lot of hard work I'm like okay so by

00:34:46.980 a different group of creatives you mean the ai animators like how can you say this isn't about

00:34:53.060 replacing photographers or models but you're doing that like what they think we're actually 0.92

00:34:57.400 idiots like it gets me so mad like all this ai stuff sorry like it's one of the hills that i 0.98

00:35:02.140 will die on well that's that's my rant a few rants in here this episode 0.99

00:35:06.940 now it's time for bookmarked where we bring you a recommendation from our week about something

00:35:18.420 that we've loved reading watching or listening to jazz would you like to kick us off yes I have

00:35:25.260 the most basic recommendation this week I'm so sorry this is not going to be new or original

00:35:29.420 at all but it's the only thing I've been watching and I also got so passionate that I wrote an

00:35:33.960 article about it on pedestrian tv but i'm recommending the summer i turned pretty oh my

00:35:39.540 god groundbreaking the reason i'm recommending it though is because we've had conversations on this

00:35:44.560 podcast before where i am quite against ya media like not against it for my values or something

00:35:50.860 but i just don't really care for hearing about teenagers stories when i'm nearly 30 um but for

00:35:57.820 some reason this one gets me and i have a theory as to why i saw it on tiktok i'm not going to take

00:36:03.860 credit for this but this woman was like in her late 30s early 40s and she said that i was wondering

00:36:10.640 why the summer i turned pretty has such a big millennial audience and she thinks it's because

00:36:16.100 jenny han the author of the books is a millennial herself the look of the tv show is reminiscent of

00:36:23.500 like the oc or gossip girl or things like that yeah where yes the characters are like 20 now

00:36:31.040 in 2025 but it was kind of created through the lens of someone who lived through that

00:36:36.920 demo that era i should say and interestingly enough this tiktok i'll try to find it and

00:36:42.080 link in the show notes but they also found this graph of demographics who are watching the summer

00:36:47.300 i turned pretty and the largest group was like women in their late 20s early 30s really the

00:36:53.620 actual like teenage percentage was really low so that got me thinking and i was like i'm really

00:36:58.840 enjoying this why am i enjoying this so much but season three is out now that's what everyone's

00:37:04.380 watching and talking about um if you haven't heard of it the summer i turned pretty follows a girl

00:37:10.540 named isabel or belly conklin um she's grown up with her mom's best friend's kids so two boys

00:37:19.040 um every summer they'd spent together and the first season is summer i turned pretty aka like

00:37:23.880 the summer she became 16 or something like that and then the whole thing is like a love triangle

00:37:28.640 between the two brothers um it's giving kind of twilight vibes with like the love triangle i think

00:37:34.640 but like set in summer it's set in the us um but i'm just loving it reminds me a bit of succession

00:37:42.960 in terms of like cultural relevancy right now so i really enjoy like being a part of a moment in

00:37:48.460 that way like getting into the fandom and being on twitter seeing all the tiktok reactions and

00:37:54.200 stuff and like feeling like a part of that community so that's why i'm recommending it

00:37:57.220 because it's just a really fun like easy to watch and season three as well is getting like quite

00:38:03.040 spicy and like debatable the dinner scene which i wrote about on pedestrian people have been saying

00:38:09.200 that it should have had the um gossip girl thanksgiving soundtrack over the top of it that

00:38:14.720 what you say anyway i'm very deep in the fandom so that's my recommendation you comparing it to

00:38:20.560 succession is hilarious in terms of cultural well yes oh my god make the film bros angry

00:38:27.160 are you mags what are you recommending i've got a youtube channel to recommend that's also rooted

00:38:32.440 in a soldier so the channel name is andrew stephen and adam and if those names might like sound a

00:38:39.760 little bit familiar to you they were from uh the good old buzzfeed days and they were known for

00:38:46.600 their worth it series where essentially um two of them and then um one of them's like their sound

00:38:51.760 and tech producer guy um they compare like one food item at three drastically different price

00:38:59.320 points so one's like super cheap one's mid-tier one's really expensive and they have reinvigorated

00:39:05.080 this program but independently so outside of buzzfeed and i think it's done so well have you

00:39:12.100 recommended this before kind of because guess what like back in the day i used to be obsessed with the

00:39:16.880 OG series almost a decade ago when I went to the US in 2019 I literally like planned my trip to go

00:39:23.140 to the places that they visited so I actually recommended the OG series a while ago you love

00:39:29.960 it so much you're recommending it to us I am well no this is completely different now so in the last

00:39:35.300 like uh two months they've reinvigorated this um and there's like new videos that they've created

00:39:42.460 in in the current year of 2025 and the feels a bit different it's more elevated um but it still

00:39:48.560 has like the essence of what I loved about the show so if people are interested in food

00:39:52.520 this one's definitely for you one of the recent ones I really enjoyed was the six dollars versus

00:39:57.860 eighteen dollar onions it's really good I love this series such a random well it is and it isn't

00:40:04.840 I feel like um I love an like a nostalgic watch and I love watching food stuff so yeah go and

00:40:12.440 enjoy that guys well thank you so much for listening to the episode this week if you have

00:40:19.380 enjoyed it please tell a friend about us maybe it's a friend that you chat about pop culture

00:40:25.100 takes with or tiktok trends we would love to spread the word about culture club and

00:40:31.400 thank you so much again for listening see you bye

Culture Club - July 28, 2025

AI's Fashion Infiltration, Charli XCX's Brat Wedding & Trisha Paytas' Baby Conspiracy

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