Culture Club - The Complexities & Joys Of Sisterhood With Musician Indy Yelich

00:00:00.000 building a music career in New York City carving out your own voice under a superstar sister

00:00:12.300 and perfectionism as poetry I'm Jasmine and I'm Maggie and you're listening to

00:00:17.780 Culture Club this is our monthly interview with people we find interesting and that we

00:00:22.660 think you will too. Today we are on the lands of the Wurundjeri Woiwurrung people. We would like to

00:00:32.580 pay our respects to elders past and present and extend this to any Aboriginal or Torres Strait

00:00:38.060 Islander listeners today. Indie Yelich is a New Zealand-born indie pop artist who's just released

00:00:48.360 her second EP. Titled Fame is a Bedroom, the EP explores age gap relationships, sisterhood,

00:00:56.460 sexuality and the conversations that happen behind closed doors. And if her name sounds

00:01:02.220 familiar, that's because Indy is the younger sister of Ella Yellich, aka Lorde. In this

00:01:08.860 interview, we chat about what it's like to move to NYC from Auckland, New Zealand, her diary-like

00:01:14.860 new EP and how she grappled with her older sister's stratospheric rise to fame as a young

00:01:20.780 teen. Hi Indy, so nice to chat with you today. How are you going? Hey, I'm doing very, very well.

00:01:27.880 How are you guys doing? We're going well. Yeah, it's 9am Melbourne time in Australia, but it's

00:01:34.000 7pm for you in New York, which is quite chic to have an interview, dare I say, at that time.

00:01:39.720 I know I'm very sunburned um I've been out fishing all day so um I can't believe peak time to have a

00:01:45.420 have a little a yarn yeah you said 14 fish you caught yeah and gutted yes um I caught them with

00:01:52.340 a mate we caught them on a double jet ski it was so sick um porgies are essentially snapper so we

00:01:58.340 got a bunch of porgy and then um we got a black sea bass oh gosh oh amazing I've never been fishing

00:02:06.660 but I'm envious I think I might need to give it a go it's actually really fun once you get around

00:02:11.840 the like grossness of it I love it well you have been in New York since you were around 18 years

00:02:16.860 old now what do you love about the city um I just really like the hustle and bustle I think there's

00:02:22.600 always a pocket of of something fun to do I think that moving to a bigger city kind of helped me

00:02:28.260 calm down in a way I think that there's always life and um being a Kiwi in New York people always

00:02:34.040 are drawn to your accent so that really helps how's it changed much since you've lived there

00:02:39.260 like being in new york no you know actually i was literally talking to someone about this today i've

00:02:44.220 noticed that i've i've been in new york for about seven or eight years and i've noticed that like

00:02:48.920 when i have a cocktail my accent gets thicker and i think americans don't understand me so i have to 0.73

00:02:53.600 put on this fucking sorry i have to put on this accent and i'm and my friend's like what are you 0.89

00:02:57.920 doing and i'm like because americans don't get what i'm saying it feels like a barrier sometimes 0.98

00:03:02.600 i also feel like do americans think that you're australian or english okay you know what the the

00:03:08.060 real i've been calling everyone g like when you when you know that the the right people know that

00:03:13.000 you're kiwi yeah but aussie is fine you know but sometimes i get swedish or i'll get british

00:03:19.020 it is funny yeah when i i was in america once in 2019 and people thought i was canadian

00:03:24.700 and people didn't believe i was australian because of the accent and i do remember having

00:03:29.080 to enunciate water yeah because water was not getting me anywhere you know what's crazy in

00:03:34.060 long island when um one of my best friends says water water americans say water but she says

00:03:39.680 water like exactly like that yeah it's a long island thing water and i love how we're getting

00:03:47.160 into the fishing and water chat but we're really here to talk about your second ep congratulations

00:03:53.260 Thank you.

00:03:53.680 Fame is a Bedroom is being released on August 1st.

00:03:56.800 By the time this episode is out, it will be live in the world.

00:04:02.500 How are you feeling about it?

00:04:03.960 I'm really proud.

00:04:04.980 I really feel like it's really mature.

00:04:08.780 You know, I think it's – I really enunciated what I wanted to say.

00:04:12.180 It really is the sonic farewell.

00:04:14.880 So I'm stoked.

00:04:16.680 I'm just living in this little world.

00:04:18.440 And I love it.

00:04:19.260 I actually listen to it, you know.

00:04:20.620 I listen to it when it's out.

00:04:21.720 So it's a good thing

00:04:23.740 You say Sonic Farewell

00:04:25.040 What are you farewelling to?

00:04:27.260 Well I think every track really is some kind of departure

00:04:30.060 I think ultimately this EP is written in a time

00:04:32.960 When my frontal lobe was forming

00:04:34.960 And a lot of these songs are only written

00:04:38.060 Nine months to a year ago

00:04:39.420 So I think it's like all of its loss

00:04:42.060 Of a formative relationship

00:04:43.740 Or a painful friendship

00:04:45.220 Or past versions of myself

00:04:47.160 Yeah

00:04:47.780 We have had a chance to listen to it ourselves

00:04:51.140 yeah love it it's so so good thanks it really is very honest and raw and like the lyrics are

00:04:59.980 almost it feels like reading your diary what was the process of making it like and how are you

00:05:04.800 feeling about that being out in the world I mean I think the process of it really was a lot of it

00:05:09.280 was written in airports and in transit and bedrooms and um bedrooms that I'm no longer in

00:05:14.460 things like that I'm no longer in I think that it's it look it's really scary to write about

00:05:19.180 your very real life and I can only draw from my real life but I think there's a catharsis and

00:05:24.660 feeling like I'm kind of finally telling the truth maybe in a sense I think it's like there's

00:05:30.600 something to be said about you know you're in a long-term relationship with somebody older and

00:05:33.680 you and you're 20 something and then you turn 26 and it's like there's a sureness in yourself so I

00:05:39.220 think that um it does bring up a lot of stuff in a sense but I think that um if you're creative you

00:05:45.180 really have no choice but to to do this work you you really have to just like the songs have to be

00:05:49.760 written you know I have like 14 versions or 13 versions of this one song so sometimes it's not

00:05:54.940 to me it's like the divine forces in the creative room I think I love that I feel like getting into

00:06:01.940 your late 20s like that shift from your early 20s to your mid to your late isn't really talked about

00:06:06.060 as much in pop culture as say yeah being a teenager and so I think that's really yeah it's

00:06:10.800 really cool that hey I'm still mid I'm 27 at the end of the year but I'm still mid I'm late

00:06:15.400 the frontal cortex is developed though no no it's developed she's she's developed girl 25 I woke up

00:06:21.520 she's developed like she's really yeah did you kind of feel that overnight switch because I

00:06:28.320 did we're only a few months apart and the change the change was real but did you did you feel that

00:06:35.700 yeah I mean honestly I obviously I live in New York with my best mate she's American she's the

00:06:40.240 exact same birthday as me to the day November 12th 1998 I swear to god we woke up and we felt it

00:06:47.680 like I just felt like I was more in myself I was more rational I was more like there was no one

00:06:53.660 I there was no one that I had felt like I had to prove myself to I don't know it was it was the

00:06:58.900 best you get scared getting older but it's also like well there's no other option so I'm actually

00:07:03.900 starting to love it but I've I've had a fear of aging for so long so you know honestly a lot of

00:07:09.560 that this record really is about being more sure of myself and like the loss of my youth

00:07:14.580 in a sense and you've previously mentioned that you're glad you've only started pursuing music

00:07:20.200 now in the last couple of years as opposed to when you were 19 or 20 why now is that a reason

00:07:26.240 being more sure of yourself oh big time big time well I just think that my songwriting um you know

00:07:32.400 you first off you have to learn how to write a song you have to learn how to produce you have

00:07:35.580 learn what you want to say I think now I really trust my songwriting I really trust my feelings

00:07:40.000 I think my um my penmanship is so much better I think that look Threads was the first song I ever

00:07:45.140 wrote not sorry not wrote put out and I really stood behind that I probably wrote 40 50 songs

00:07:51.060 before that so I just I think especially with um you know in my world I think that every song is

00:07:59.440 intentional and I didn't want to put out anything that wasn't I would be proud of in 20 years oh

00:08:04.320 Wow that's a big call but I love it. Well it's you know that is my life in a sense yeah. I'm curious

00:08:10.820 as well because we briefly touched on it before but speaking about putting a lot of your personal

00:08:17.800 life on this record and you alluded to you know age gap relationships or power like being a power

00:08:22.940 imbalance in a relationship what was that like choosing to put this on the record since you know

00:08:27.920 age gap relationships and such such a big talking point in pop culture doesn't always get the best

00:08:33.120 rap it's quite a messy topic what was that like exploring it you know i think it really is i think

00:08:39.140 there's every woman can talk about this they have something in their lives like this i think it's

00:08:43.980 not just a mr big thing you know i really relate to that heavily but um i think that you know you're

00:08:49.180 just too young to know better but it's not necessarily i wouldn't change my i look at this

00:08:55.360 i look at this kind of especially in savior versus up in flames in this record i look at this it's

00:09:02.220 an ode to a toxic messy love story you don't know better you do you know I think now at 26 I do know

00:09:09.400 better I can see it for what it is but um it is it is you know savior is very painful sometimes

00:09:15.880 those things are very painful to write about and talk about but I think that like I just look at

00:09:20.740 the course of my life and I think it's just how it went so you don't you know you really don't

00:09:25.580 know better at 21 versus but you do at 26 so 100 you look back and you're like oh my god I was a

00:09:31.200 baby like and you think you're so grown and there's an older man and you're just like yeah

00:09:37.000 you look back like what were we doing it's yeah it's easier to be like 21 22 to be led by an older

00:09:42.840 man versus 26 and like forming your own opinions and your likes and your dislikes it's it's it's

00:09:48.940 braver now for me to be alone but I do I I hold a lot of space you know the space thing for um

00:09:55.880 that version of myself that was so young and you know just wanted to be wanted to um be led by

00:10:01.360 someone i think i don't want that now but i did yeah another um song on the ep is a song called

00:10:09.080 idol now you haven't shied away from the fact that lord is your big sister in the song you say

00:10:15.220 you were 15 when you made it sometimes i play the supporting act the world's taking photos they all

00:10:20.720 think they know you but they can't uh we think that many artists would try to avoid the topic

00:10:27.000 of a famous sibling when they're trying to carve out a voice especially in the same exact same

00:10:31.320 field um but you've really embraced it can we ask why and what that's like well i have been in this

00:10:38.440 industry i think i've been putting out music for about three years i think that this came at a time

00:10:43.260 i love idol and i really wrote it for me um i wrote some of it on piano on electric guitar you

00:10:49.520 know me my sister are really close we two years apart we live in the same city and she's my best

00:10:53.440 mate you know so I think it's an inevitable shift from being 21 to 25 to 26 I think that I wasn't

00:11:01.160 ready to fully be publicly discussing it until I had carved out like my own voice but ultimately

00:11:06.620 like I feel that like it is part of my life and it's part of my journey and like this is someone

00:11:12.120 who is I I felt so personal about Virgin because I was in the next room for some of it we were

00:11:18.600 having sleepovers and you know she i get older and my opinion starts to your sister is the one

00:11:26.100 person in this life who really knows you so i think idol really does reference like it was

00:11:31.480 important it was important to to say everything i need to in that song so that i maybe don't always

00:11:36.300 have to talk about it in a sense like that song is so personal to me and it's so scary to put it

00:11:41.920 out but it's one of my best because it's i believe in it and it's it's finding that middle ground of

00:11:47.780 um the intimacy of sisterhood and like the distance of fame wow what a beautiful line there

00:11:54.540 because jaz and i both have sisters and none of them as of yet are famous um but there is this

00:12:03.300 resonance with idol that i can relate to because you know especially having an older sister totally

00:12:09.120 um god i idolize her so much i love her she's like my hero i've always said that

00:12:14.020 and you know another lyric in idol is I'm the moon to your sunlight I've idolized you for my

00:12:19.380 whole life why am I getting emotional you have my big sister um yeah it's beautiful and I think

00:12:25.520 people who don't have sisters don't really understand it so what is it like having a big

00:12:30.920 sister I have two big sisters Ella and Jerry and a big brother um I I mean they're they're your

00:12:37.160 protect us like they're um they just it I just I don't imagine I don't imagine being in this world

00:12:45.180 without one I don't know I think it's like aside from the perception of of being so known is such

00:12:51.320 an intimacy and someone who knows you best it's like there's a line and um idol it's like um

00:12:55.760 something we're bound by blood they don't understand your love they'll never have

00:13:00.260 enough because I'm the one you're running to you're the one I'm running to and in a world of

00:13:05.300 of being known you want to be with someone that was raised right beside you and I think

00:13:11.060 realizing my sister's my best mate best move like no one no one knows you better no one's

00:13:18.340 in in a room where she's so known she's like the one that knows me best I think

00:13:22.980 and this I and vice versa you know so beautiful

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00:15:49.080 For both of you to be so musically talented,

00:15:51.820 you must have grown up in quite a creative family.

00:15:54.600 Can you tell us more about growing up in Auckland?

00:15:57.080 Yeah.

00:15:58.660 Well, there was four of us in the house.

00:16:01.800 Obviously, a lot of fishing, a lot of Kiwiana vibes.

00:16:05.780 But we all very creative from a very young age.

00:16:08.520 You know, I was in a lot of rock bands as a kid.

00:16:10.500 I was singing in choirs at like five or six.

00:16:14.320 A lot of noise.

00:16:15.560 We would always like fall asleep.

00:16:16.940 I always say this.

00:16:17.620 like we I feel like our music tastes developed because we were always falling asleep to the

00:16:21.720 sound of like what our parents listened to like at dinner parties and now I'm 26 having my own

00:16:26.360 dinner party so it's kind of like I'm hearing that um that sound again you know um but it was

00:16:32.760 you know it's very loud and very um all the people at the dinner table and uh I appreciate it more

00:16:39.640 now as I'm older I think um but I I would I I wouldn't have I don't I wouldn't I feel like

00:16:46.680 New Zealand is like it's so home to me and I is I've been away for so long and I really just go

00:16:53.240 back to like my roots now you know I really think I'm my inner child has come out a lot more as I

00:16:58.520 get older I think I remember um watching a few of your TikToks last year where you do speak quite

00:17:03.860 candidly about the experience of growing up in New Zealand and things and you didn't use the

00:17:08.680 words tall poppy syndrome but I'm wondering if they resonated with you oh yeah as a teenager

00:17:13.960 yeah yeah big time sorry I fully I fully cut you off no and that was the end of my question so

00:17:20.760 please continue I think it's like I would say to answer your question it's like I feel like that's

00:17:25.220 why really there's a balance with it's like you know where I grew up versus New York is so it's

00:17:31.120 so the culture of like trying you only it's very much like we're all in a floating rock I think

00:17:36.580 it's kind of like my thing with with famous bedroom is like I have no choice but to express

00:17:40.780 myself. That's just who I am. I'm very loud. I'm very expressive. And I've always, I always have

00:17:45.000 been. So I think it's kind of like, um, my biggest fear in this life is being 80 years old and not

00:17:51.060 have, um, and not have expressed myself creatively. Uh, yeah, that's my biggest fear. I was like

00:17:57.780 being, you know, I do this all for the version of myself that was 16 that couldn't express herself

00:18:02.720 in her bedroom. I do it now and I'm free. And now I, I, I, I always look towards versions of

00:18:09.900 myself it isn't for other people it's for me you know it's so that I know that I've expressed 0.98

00:18:14.720 myself in a way that I I needed to you know why do you think Australians and Kiwis have

00:18:20.580 a hard time with being seen trying that's such a question I think it's more fear of judgment I

00:18:26.600 don't think it's that they actually judge others but I think it's sometimes easy to fit in the

00:18:32.220 norm but the reality is my life hasn't been normal since I was a kid you know and so I think that

00:18:37.500 really pushed me along to kind of carve my own path out i think that um i i don't know i i feel

00:18:43.680 like the interesting thing is as i get older and i am out and about in the city in new york i

00:18:49.020 almost relate to aussies and kiwis so much more now because they're doing their thing there it's

00:18:55.120 it's seen so odd to be so loud and pursue things and um carve out your dreams but it

00:19:01.100 but i think it's i think yeah i think it's the fear of judgment i don't really know

00:19:06.340 I don't I just can't cast so you know my my my people in that role because like I'm so proud to

00:19:14.560 be Kiwi and I'm so proud to like know Aussies and some of them are my best mates I think it's 1.00

00:19:18.040 sometimes they just need to push you know they're just very chill shy people I guess going back to 0.98

00:19:25.500 the point you just made about your life not being normal since you were a child in a TikTok last

00:19:31.760 year you mentioned that the experience of seeing your big sister hit huge heights so quickly

00:19:36.460 caused you to grow a thicker skin and have a stronger sense of self from a young age

00:19:41.620 can you expand on this in the context of Ella yeah I think it's just kind of like you know

00:19:47.360 you're 14 15 there's a preconceived version of you and you don't really you're so young and you're

00:19:53.660 you know you're naughty or you're learning stuff and you're a teenager so it's like you don't

00:19:57.400 really know yourself at all so I think it's kind of like that's why I moved to the state so young

00:20:01.680 i moved to the states at 18 because i was so in the sense of um you know being being associated

00:20:08.760 with fame in a sense really influenced my desire to be understood i would say and just

00:20:13.780 and figure out who i am without essentially being known um yeah i would say was there ever a time

00:20:23.480 where you wanted to i don't know how to word this i'm just thinking me and my little sister we did

00:20:28.820 like a very similar degree at uni and we're both in like creative fields and at times I wonder

00:20:36.220 if it would have been good if we were to pursue the same thing or do things that were really

00:20:42.160 different did that ever cross your mind being like okay well Ella's in music does that mean

00:20:46.780 can I also be in music was this ever a thought pattern honestly no I've been singing since I

00:20:52.700 was five I wrote my first song when I was like seven I think maybe there were I think that going

00:20:58.760 back to that um question of putting out threads and putting out my first song I needed it to be

00:21:03.740 like I need to be so proud of it I need to be because essentially I I did know that you know

00:21:09.040 I essentially felt like I had one shot I music was always my path I'm a writer first and foremost

00:21:14.740 I wrote two books my mom's a writer um I think that it's just the medium um but I think that 0.98

00:21:22.240 maybe the only thing that really ever crossed my mind was like this shit better be good you know 0.53

00:21:28.100 there's no there's no half our songs they all have to be that's why I'm so proud of this past 0.92

00:21:32.320 version of myself truly like threads like I don't know where I pulled that out from like that's one

00:21:36.740 of my favorite songs and I knew I knew that I had to you know I had to get it right so I don't know

00:21:42.880 I mean maybe there's just a little bit more pressure on myself but I don't think it's from

00:21:47.040 anybody else I think you know my sister always just really wants me to be my be the best the

00:21:55.160 vivacious version of myself and i think that seeing her pursue with such an honesty inspires

00:22:01.720 me to be honest and and i can only be i can only live my life really i can only i can only

00:22:09.400 trust my own voice trust my creative voice and and be myself i can't really be anyone else and

00:22:15.320 i fucking love that if i'm honest like i love my ability to adapt and and um in a way i guess that

00:22:22.160 that really was what Famous Bedroom is about is the honesty of um kind of clawing my way back to 0.95

00:22:27.020 myself and um and amidst doubt and messiness and blocked numbers and you know things like that

00:22:35.180 yeah I'm the big sister of the two sisters and so I really resonate with what you just said of like

00:22:41.320 that's all big sisters want for their little sister is to just be for them to be able to

00:22:46.200 be their most fulfilled self and to be safe like give them the safe space essentially to express

00:22:50.960 themselves i also think that what you just said really relates to what i feel for my sister because

00:22:56.700 i feel very protective idol really is about trusting that relationship in the midst of when

00:23:02.380 the world is watching it's trusting the the life and the and who you are together i guess so

00:23:08.200 sisterhood is is really a big theme and i think a lot of in other women is a theme in this i would

00:23:15.400 say also interesting because you even just mentioned at the top of our conversation that

00:23:19.120 you had probably written like 40 or 50 songs before you released maybe more truly yeah really

00:23:24.740 yeah and the thing is with your two EPs that's a total of 10 songs in that so you have really

00:23:31.020 chosen to condense I guess the records that you've put out and you were talking about like

00:23:36.860 there's this expectation that this has to be really good do you think that's why perhaps

00:23:41.380 I guess as this element of perfectionism or this I guess high caliber that you're setting for

00:23:47.880 yourself definitely definitely I think that's exactly right but I also think it's kind of just

00:23:52.880 like that's really what I know I think that for me it's like I don't want to release art music I

00:23:58.520 don't believe in and I think that you know my first record there were some songs that believed

00:24:02.060 in maybe not as a whole but this record I would say you know idol up in flames savior I love and

00:24:08.740 I'm I I perfected in a way that only I know how well not perfected but like uh tried to be as

00:24:15.980 honest to the version in my head I think it's like I will always change as a songwriter but I

00:24:21.860 think I've done the best with what I had at the time and you know there's gonna be a long it's a

00:24:27.860 long life so there'll be I'm sure that what I'm sure music will sound different but um yeah

00:24:33.400 perfectionism sure but I think it's like truly if I have to hear these songs a thousand times I want

00:24:38.600 them to be good I want it if I have to keep hearing them myself they gotta be good it's it's honestly

00:24:43.460 this record was it was written for me I think the first record might have been semi-written for me

00:24:50.040 I think but I think this this record is mine you know it's my it's my life it's my um my identity

00:24:56.320 and and all that I carry after everything ends and these relationships end and in a way you know

00:25:02.740 it's very personal it's like it's scary to to really talk about your real life it's scary

00:25:08.280 we're like writers by trade so we're like yeah yeah and there are things and then when and once

00:25:15.160 you release something it's out there right like there's articles or you know podcast episodes

00:25:20.420 that we release we're like leave me i know really honest yeah um it you know it's scary but it's

00:25:26.120 like i feel like sometimes i had no choice but to be a a songwriter it's it's this high power in me

00:25:31.860 you know it's like I I um it's I know that I'm I know that it feels right I'm not trying to be

00:25:39.860 I'm just trying to beat the version of maybe be better and better I mean who knows yet but yeah

00:25:46.940 what has Ella taught you about the industry this is also side note this is our last question about

00:25:53.100 your sister um what I mean honestly she's like my she's like my mate like she's my sister but

00:25:59.840 we're like mates we like literally talk all day long so don't worry um I would say truly just like

00:26:05.580 trusting your instincts I think for me the biggest piece of advice she's given me aside from like

00:26:10.540 can I wear this can I wear that would be um would be like you know I really would say you're in a

00:26:18.080 room with a producer you're in a room with a songwriter advocating for lyrics advocating for

00:26:22.560 your trusting your feeling it's about your life you know trusting that you know how to write a

00:26:28.620 song trusting you're a good artist trusting in 10 the 10 different mixes that's the right one

00:26:34.020 trusting in um oh no I really don't like that lyric please can we cut it oh no that take doesn't

00:26:40.320 sound good I believe you know trusting that that um you know how to write a song and you know what's

00:26:47.300 best for it because it's your work it's your life and I've really struggled with that so me

00:26:52.720 really speaking up has made for a better work I think and I think you can really tell with

00:26:57.520 idle and up in flames I wrote for myself and yeah I would definitely say that I think it's

00:27:06.000 you know really speaking up for your work and because you have your background in writing

00:27:14.500 and poetry you know you've got sticky notes and do that what do you love about poetry and how

00:27:19.520 is that fed into your songwriting I think poetry is just more a free-form way of um getting things

00:27:25.860 out there I think songwriting is uh I think they're both hard of course but I think songwriting

00:27:30.480 is like I really I was I really had to teach myself how to songwrite I think you know you

00:27:35.340 can't just put whatever you want you really have to carve out like rhyme and chorus and structure

00:27:39.960 I love poetry because my mom's a poet um I was raised on poetry and we would type up poems when

00:27:47.980 I was seven on the computer in the kitchen with the green wallpaper and she would sit down with

00:27:55.020 and she would ask me how I wanted to write and what I wanted to write and it's in my blood you

00:27:59.940 know my sister's a poet my mom's a poet I'm a poet in a way we're all it's in my blood it's what I

00:28:05.720 it's New York is full of poets paying homage to poets before me you know in the 80s and the 90s

00:28:11.720 things like that it's it's it's really what taught me how to trust my creative self poetry you're

00:28:19.280 19 and you're writing books and selling them you know taking them to the postal service and things

00:28:25.000 like that and people are buying them it's like so cool it's crazy do you have a favorite poem um

00:28:30.840 of mine or someone else's of yours or someone else as yes either way i have two um of someone

00:28:39.300 else's obviously wild geese by mary oliver is phenomenal it's like what if there's a line it's

00:28:44.340 like let the soft body love what it loves something like that you don't have to be good you don't have

00:28:49.060 to walk through that that wild geese and then um there's this poem there's this poet called alex

00:28:54.180 to meet troth he has this um poem called june and i have i'll have i'll send it to you after

00:29:01.040 it's just phenomenal it's what it really feels like to be young and alive in new york in your

00:29:05.040 20s and of mine um oh maybe some of my songs i don't know poems maybe dudette's my favorite book

00:29:13.980 of mine but i would say my favorite like song poem is probably uh savior

00:29:20.620 if that makes sense no it does definitely speaking of recommendations every week on our

00:29:27.600 podcast we give our listeners recommendations on what we've enjoyed reading listening to or

00:29:32.700 watching recently can you share a recommendation that you've been loving lately uh yep of books

00:29:38.640 i would say uh there's this irish writer called caroline o'donoghue she's amazing she wrote this

00:29:45.080 i'm obsessed with her she wrote the rachel incident which is about this girl in her 20s

00:29:49.460 in ireland but she just wrote this kind of like mystery fantasy book called ship ship shock which

00:29:55.000 is so incredibly beautiful i would say that caroline o'donoghue and honestly this is not

00:30:01.680 like that deep but i've been it's been giving me a lot of solace and helping me read again is i'm

00:30:05.760 the fourth wing i know but it's rebecca it makes me happy yeah it's silly and it makes me happy and

00:30:11.920 um it reminds me of reading harry potter as a kid so yeah yeah no we love a um a recommendation

00:30:18.860 like that as well we are not super highbrow we'll like recommend like kids movies and yeah anything

00:30:25.080 that we've genuinely loved has brought us joy we're like cool we're gonna share this with

00:30:28.500 our listeners oh i have i have two song recommendations yeah so i would say 0.98

00:30:34.820 feeling by billy martin she has this new record that's coming out she's so god she's so goddamn

00:30:40.680 good and then um all it's kind of an older song but i just think about it like every day

00:30:45.920 all i ever asked by rachel chenoriri it's kind of starting to do really well it's just so good

00:30:52.300 it's like it's it's really phenomenal so i would say um those as well oh very good you've blessed

00:30:59.420 us with like four recommendations plus a poetry where we're really our show notes will be from

00:31:04.660 you hyperlink i mean fourth wing is like essentially like you know lusty like medieval

00:31:12.060 dragons or something i don't know i mean it's become popular for a reason you know that yeah

00:31:17.820 thank you so much indy for joining us on culture club today we've had such a pleasure talking to

00:31:24.340 you thank you for being so so lovely and honest and we're so happy that your ep is finally out

00:31:31.300 in the world uh so congratulations again thank you thank you so much for having me and same

00:31:37.000 i'm ready for this record to be out oh my goodness yeah there's been a long time coming i know we'll

00:31:42.980 link it in our show notes as well for everyone to listen to well thanks for the lovely chat

00:31:46.700 talk to you soon yeah lovely to meet you bye lovely to meet you

Culture Club - August 11, 2025

The Complexities & Joys Of Sisterhood With Musician Indy Yelich

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