Maintenance Phase - The Bulletproof Diet

00:00:00.000 it's also been uh clipping a little bit lately because you've i feel on my end i feel like

00:00:16.100 you've been doing more bellowing than usual you're like six percent more bellowing that

00:00:22.000 sounds like me so maybe turn the gain down like three percent or something yeah yeah hang on let

00:00:26.700 me open up the settings you'd make things safe safe for bellowing bellow safe that's the

00:00:33.420 abbey gordon promise patented bellow safe technology that's how they sell the microphone

00:00:39.280 for all your left-wing podcasting needs you can shout no as much as you want the package is just

00:00:48.360 a line drawing of me giving the a okay and winking like wait so okay the reason i one of the reasons

00:00:55.860 i wanted to jump into this was because i actually have a tagline and it's actually kind of good oh

00:01:01.120 my god i can't wait michael you're already bellowing i am uh welcome to minions phase

00:01:06.240 the podcast that downs your uppers oh because that's what we're doing today literally we kind

00:01:12.600 of are we're drinking caffeine we're canceling coffee this is also true of us emotionally people

00:01:19.480 come to us feeling good and then they listen to our show and they're like oh now i'm down

00:01:23.000 yeah i'm also aubrey i'm so you said we have to record for like four hours for this one i'm like 0.87

00:01:30.320 what are we going to talk about for four fucking so much michael i thought this one was gonna be 0.89

00:01:34.920 like 15 minutes long i thought this was gonna be like a little light easy one to be like we're 0.96

00:01:39.440 gonna get more episodes out it'll be faster yeah i know but then it was us but then this is us

00:01:44.260 starring mandy moore and i surprised myself by learning that oops i picked out a 72 ounce steak

00:01:52.320 of a topic i'm so excited michael what do you know about bulletproof coffee how did it make

00:01:58.240 its way onto your radar what have you heard do you know anybody who drank it or drinks it this

00:02:03.660 is just coffee with butter in it no yes yes i have not like come across this in the wild 0.97

00:02:08.140 i do not like read maxim magazine or like wherever the fuck people are getting this stuff 0.93

00:02:11.940 how dare you what are the metrosexuals reading these days so the origin story is pretty 0.93

00:02:19.560 straightforward. The creator of Bulletproof Coffee is a guy named Dave Asprey. He was hiking in Tibet

00:02:26.120 when he tried a local drink. Okay. The local drink was tea with yak butter in it. That is

00:02:33.140 a common drink in Tibet. He tried it and he said he felt absolutely incredible after drinking it

00:02:40.280 and came back to the US to test out a version that he could make at home that made him feel

00:02:45.400 the same way. This is like a person on vacation who's like, I feel great when I'm on vacation

00:02:49.900 and they want to replicate it when they're home. Yeah. What if I moved to Jamaica? He says that as

00:02:55.920 he was experimenting at home, he switched from tea to coffee because the flavor of the butter

00:03:01.080 overwhelmed the tea. Okay. The recipe is pretty straightforward. What you're mixing together is

00:03:07.160 two cups of piping hot brewed coffee okay up to two tablespoons of grass-fed butter oh it has to

00:03:16.760 be grass-fed sure and up to two tablespoons of mct oil what the fuck is that multi-chain

00:03:24.780 triglyceride oil dude do you know what just happened to me what in my life because we're

00:03:29.900 doing a taste test later so i had to go to the store to look for bulletproof liquids i went to

00:03:34.720 the normal grocery store and they didn't have anything so i went to whole foods i had to ask

00:03:38.720 the gentleman working there if they had any bulletproof stuff i got like the coffee grounds

00:03:42.780 and then he also guided me to like the supplements aisle oh sure why is he taking me to the

00:03:47.040 supplements aisle and then he found a bottle of like a bottle of liquid brain octane was it brain

00:03:53.040 octane michael i don't it said so many things on the back it was like dr brawner's there's like all

00:03:57.480 these words coming at me and i was in a hurry because we were like late to record so i was

00:04:00.780 like yeah whatever fine fine fine so i get the thing i go to the checkout and it's like bloop

00:04:05.400 bloop i start putting them in the bag and she goes oh it's a 75 60 i was like wait sorry i thought

00:04:10.620 you said 75 and then i looked at the little thing and the it was a bottle of mct oil yep which was

00:04:16.820 54 jesus god i mean it was a relatively large bottle to be fair but also i was like no podcast 0.88

00:04:23.700 is worth 54 i'm not fucking paying 54 i was like put this back there's no fucking way i'm paying 0.83

00:04:30.320 $54 for whatever this is. But I think that's because it was like the oil. It wasn't like the 0.93

00:04:34.340 butter coffee thing. For bulletproof coffee true believers, you will hear a few key health claims

00:04:41.500 about drinking the butter coffee. One, you will hear that bulletproof coffee quote unquote keeps

00:04:48.160 you in a fasted state while filling you up. Two, people will say that bulletproof coffee leads to

00:04:55.000 quote-unquote enhanced cognitive performance oh yeah three you will hear that most coffee won't

00:05:02.120 work uh in making bulletproof coffee because it contains mold which outweighs the nutritional

00:05:09.000 benefits i can't where are we the first claim is that bulletproof coffee keeps you in a fasted

00:05:15.700 state that's based on a ketogenic diet framework the idea is that this is a meal replacement right

00:05:24.000 We discussed this more in depth in our keto episode, but cardiologists are not fans of this

00:05:31.080 approach. I will absolutely never forget the doctor who we talked about in that episode who

00:05:37.220 described the ketogenic diet as the low carb, high coffin diet. The other thing that this is

00:05:44.820 sort of based on is not specific to bulletproof coffee. It's based on the purported benefits of

00:05:51.920 mct oil multi-chain triglyceride oil so multi-chain triglycerides are just straightforwardly fats

00:05:59.820 they're shorter chains um than other fats which means they're quicker to convert to energy there's

00:06:06.620 less for your body to break down so if you're on a keto or keto style diet the idea is you want to

00:06:13.880 add some mcts because that'll be your quickest way to get the kind of energy you would otherwise get

00:06:19.060 from carbohydrates. The thing is, even if the health claims are true, Aubrey, if it's $54,

00:06:22.860 I'm not interested. Michael, it's not $54 because multi-chain triglycerides are naturally found in

00:06:29.720 coconut oil and palm oil. Of course. There has been some research into MCT oil and MCTs,

00:06:37.040 but the benefits in that research are pretty modest and the strength of the evidence is just

00:06:42.920 not great, right? I could just drink coconut milk. I can put that in my coffee. That probably

00:06:48.120 tastes better, honestly, than butter. Claim number two is that it will enhance your cognitive

00:06:52.140 performance. Dave Asprey says that he ran his own research comparing his bulletproof coffee beans

00:07:00.980 to other coffee beans. So he makes a big show of this. He says that he registered with an IRB

00:07:07.820 and that he worked with a Stanford researcher on his research design. He doesn't say who this

00:07:13.540 person is, what they're credentialed in. Okay. He also doesn't like publish the results of the

00:07:19.340 study anywhere. Okay. Here is his paragraph describing the research design. We asked 54

00:07:26.800 people recruited from the Bulletproof Executive Facebook page to conduct two batteries of

00:07:32.020 cognitive function tests per day for four weeks while using different combinations of butter and

00:07:36.440 coffee. Lab tested upgraded coffee, black. Coffee made with beans from a local shop, black. Lab

00:07:41.900 tested upgraded coffee with butter, coffee made with beans from a local shop with butter. We did

00:07:45.920 not test MCTs, short-chain C8 MCTs, or coconut oil because the test was already too long and

00:07:52.060 dropout, people not completing the test, was a problem. Nonetheless, the results were conclusive.

00:07:58.600 Love that. And we didn't test half of the recipe. A bunch of people dropped out,

00:08:05.100 but it was conclusive. And we recruited through Facebook 54 people.

00:08:09.360 Anyway, this is hella janky, but we've also reached sweeping conclusions.

00:08:14.640 Love that.

00:08:15.900 And then he concludes, with or without butter, the coffee from a local coffee shop produced

00:08:20.480 statistically significant lower scores on tests of cognitive function compared to lab-tested,

00:08:25.660 upgraded coffee beans.

00:08:26.940 Yeah, I mean, this just has like no plausible explanation.

00:08:31.180 Like your coffee beans are so different that it's enhancing cognitive function, but other

00:08:35.340 coffee beans aren't?

00:08:36.240 Like, yeah, I need to see, I need the tables.

00:08:38.360 100%. I read an interview with a university professor on the bulletproof diet. And her take was essentially something that like we've said on the show a number of times, which is that nutritional research is extremely difficult to do.

00:08:54.900 Yeah, it's just really hard. Yeah. To research an individual ingredient or compound in someone's diet, you would have to have people eating identical diets aside from that one ingredient or compound for a sustained period of time. And you would have to know that they're not slipping off of the plan that you have provided for them.

00:09:19.800 Yeah, totally. This is why we try not to, like, make fun of scientists or, like, seem snarky about scientists on this issue, just because it's so hard to study.

00:09:27.260 Michael, let's dig in on that third claim about moldy coffee.

00:09:31.020 Yeah, what is this? What's going on?

00:09:32.400 I, like, interviewed coffee roasters and screeners. 0.98

00:09:36.940 I, like, I went on such a fucking journey about this. 0.97

00:09:41.320 It is true that coffee can develop mold. 0.97

00:09:44.620 the forms of mold that we're talking about here are called mycotoxins one which is also what i

00:09:52.120 call you when you're in a bad mood that's all my that's all my friends new year's resolutions

00:09:55.480 mycotoxins cutting mycotoxic out of my life that's my irish friends call me when they're mad

00:09:59.840 so one of those types of mycotoxins that can grow in coffee is a known carcinogen that's also true

00:10:08.240 okay however in order to consume enough that it would like cause health concerns

00:10:15.660 you have to consume so much coffee oh yeah you have to this is our old classic of the dose

00:10:23.900 makes the poison right we are all exposed to low levels of this stuff all the time and not just

00:10:29.280 through coffee this particular mycotoxin which is called aflatoxin b1 can be found in peanuts

00:10:37.500 pistachios dried spices and corn among other things so this is in a lot of things in extremely

00:10:46.200 low concentrations right because of that coffee growers and roasters take a number of measures

00:10:54.760 to reduce mycotoxins one is that they've developed a process called wet processing that is the way

00:11:02.940 that most coffee beans are prepared at this point it involves pulping fermenting and drying coffee

00:11:10.060 beans that's the way coffee is processed now wetly after that process they roast the beans

00:11:20.000 because roasting beans also kills mycotons and then after all of that they discard any crops

00:11:30.340 with unsafe levels as set by the FDA.

00:11:34.500 So they're marketing something that is like a legal requirement.

00:11:37.260 Like we pay our taxes.

00:11:39.360 Yeah.

00:11:39.620 And to be fair, their argument is we have even fewer than other brands, right?

00:11:44.460 To none at all.

00:11:45.280 Like that's sort of what they're saying.

00:11:46.960 But here's the thing that broke my brain, Mike.

00:11:50.000 Even if they didn't do any of those things, mycotoxins make coffee taste bad, so they

00:11:55.320 can't sell it.

00:11:56.560 Oh, okay.

00:11:57.660 So it's already like a built-in incentive.

00:11:59.340 yes yes so like mycotoxins change the taste of coffee they make it taste extremely bitter 0.98

00:12:08.020 okay so it also just like wouldn't be in their best interest to try and sell shit that people 0.98

00:12:13.940 would then drink and be like this is gross yeah yeah dave asprey says that they don't actually 0.95

00:12:18.560 screen well enough for mold and that actually bulletproof is the only one doing sort of some

00:12:25.580 form of proprietary mold screening but he doesn't really go into like what are they right so he's

00:12:31.660 not technically lying or potentially he's not technically lying but he's giving you the 0.98

00:12:35.840 impression of something that isn't true so michael are you ready to taste test some goddamn 0.91

00:12:40.980 bulletproof coffee i have not eaten breakfast yet today so this is uh it's gonna be me in a fasting 0.85

00:12:45.720 state oh you're gonna do it correctly listeners can weigh in or whether i seem smarter afterwards

00:12:50.380 give me more feedback on my personality i really like that you and i both got the high achiever

00:12:56.140 from bulletproof yes which is enhanced coffee with added b vitamins lion's mane and coffee

00:13:03.380 berry sure i am gonna send you the little recipe oh okay and what you're supposed to do is blend

00:13:08.960 it to emulsify it which i cannot do you cannot do i can do so two cups of coffee up to two

00:13:14.820 tablespoons i mean i don't have grass-fed butter i feel like normal ass butter can i read to you

00:13:19.080 the description from the brain octane that you didn't buy oh yeah i do it crave less do oh okay

00:13:26.580 brain octane c8 mct oil is no ordinary mct oil oh sourced purely from coconuts like coconut

00:13:36.120 ordinary it contains the most ketogenic mct oil pure c8 caprylic acid and easy to absorb high

00:13:45.740 quality smart fat sure so that's me i'm a high quality smart yeah that rapidly converts into

00:13:52.720 brain powering fat burning ketone energy brain octane c8 mct oil helps control cravings jump

00:14:02.060 starts your metabolism and improves cognitive performance to keep you sharp it would be so

00:14:07.880 funny if they said it's fortified with mycotoxins this like special thing that actually like makes

00:14:13.520 you smarter like it's like any of these like mold is good for you mold is bad for you it's all it's

00:14:18.200 all just people saying stuff so mike i'm curious about what your coffee looks like mine has been

00:14:24.460 through a blender yours has not mine there okay there's when i was living in berlin there's like

00:14:30.500 a restaurant in east berlin that's like famous for like it's like the garlic restaurant that's

00:14:34.460 like the theme every single thing on the menu has garlic in it including the desserts so they have

00:14:39.580 famously garlic ice cream and i was like okay whatever i'll go there i had like a normal

00:14:44.040 spaghetti dinner and then i had i was like all right fine i'll try the garlic ice cream and then

00:14:47.580 you taste it and it literally just tastes like someone took breyer's ice cream and like crushed 0.94

00:14:51.260 a bunch of garlic in it you're like yep that's garlic and some fucking vanilla ice cream it was 0.84

00:14:55.500 like not more than the sum of its parts i feel like this is the same thing where like it looks 0.97

00:14:59.460 like just coffee with like a centimeter of butter floating on top of it and then when you smell it

00:15:03.880 it like it smells like coffee and butter there's not i mean i don't know what i expected yeah i

00:15:08.980 was gonna say mine smells exactly like coffee and exactly like butter it smells like kind of like a

00:15:14.520 diner yeah i'm also glad you didn't get the oil because he does warn you about putting too much

00:15:19.540 mct oil in your coffee yeah surely it's gonna separate yeah that's not what he's concerned

00:15:24.440 with he's concerned with a side effect that he refers to consistently throughout the book as

00:15:29.340 disaster pants oh god what why do all these things involve pooping just give me a normal 0.98

00:15:36.400 diet that doesn't change my poop now there's a new euphemism for shitting myself in my brain 0.75

00:15:42.920 brought to you from the era of like amazeballs and awesome sauce please enjoy disaster pants 0.84

00:15:50.480 all right we have to we have to do this very quickly the second i stop stirring it just like

00:15:54.460 all the butter floats back to the top you're ready are we doing three two one sure you count us down

00:15:58.320 Wait, you do the countdowns.

00:16:02.280 Three, two, one, go.

00:16:10.200 I'm not tasting the butter at all, actually.

00:16:11.800 It just tastes like a fine cup of coffee.

00:16:14.500 It's fascinating to me because, like, all of the celebrity coverage was like,

00:16:19.120 it's the creamiest latte you've ever had.

00:16:22.460 It's the best, blah, blah, blah.

00:16:23.700 And I'm like, no, it tastes like drip coffee.

00:16:25.360 which is kind of amazing because two tablespoons of butter is hella i was noticing when i was 0.88

00:16:29.180 putting it in it's like damn what a butter so much butter do you feel smarter aubrey do you

00:16:34.700 do you are we sharper the appeal eludes me i really thought i was gonna be like hey man i 0.90

00:16:39.520 gotta hand it to him this tastes really good man but it tastes just sort of like coffee like a cup

00:16:44.980 of drip coffee so we endorse we wholeheartedly endorse bulletproof coffee the rest of this

00:16:48.940 episode will be a series of affiliate codes where we tell you michael if it tastes fine all of the

00:16:54.200 health claims are true. So Bulletproof Coffee comes to us from a real character named Dave

00:17:00.760 Asprey. He is a self-described biohacker and the headlines about him often include that he has

00:17:10.820 spent over a million dollars on his own biohacking. He is also out here pretty constantly talking

00:17:19.860 about how he intends to live to 180. Women do not talk about how much money they've spent on diets 0.99

00:17:26.740 in the same way. No, and if you did, it would be with like such weird shame. Yeah, it would be a 1.00

00:17:34.400 bummer. You wouldn't be like, check me out. Yeah. Dave Asprey is a Gen X dude who spent his early

00:17:39.980 career working in IT. Okay. On his website, it says, quote, as a true pioneer, Dave was the first

00:17:46.800 person to ever sell a product online oh well i mean maybe totally mike how would you even

00:17:57.480 determine that mike mike the journey that i went on trying to disconfirm this michael michael michael

00:18:03.260 michael it's clear so he did sell products online in 1994 that is the first year like when you look

00:18:11.940 at like retrospectives on like the beginnings of e-commerce they talk about 1994 being the first

00:18:18.820 year that people are like figuring out how to sell things okay on the internet but when people

00:18:24.280 tell that story they tell a story of like a totally different dude and then also a story of

00:18:29.160 pizza hut oh what figuring out some like online ordering through pizza hut in 1994

00:18:35.440 you were not getting that pizza

00:18:37.940 that pizza's coming on Wednesday

00:18:40.560 you had to wait an hour

00:18:42.980 for the image of the website

00:18:44.780 to download

00:18:45.560 so when the story gets told

00:18:48.940 of the beginnings of e-commerce

00:18:50.300 no one is mentioning Dave Asprey

00:18:52.220 Dave Asprey is the one mentioning Dave Asprey

00:18:54.560 can I tell you what the product he was selling

00:18:56.900 was? yeah what is it?

00:18:57.980 it was t-shirts with an illustration

00:19:00.840 of the caffeine

00:19:02.500 molecule

00:19:03.580 okay and the phrase caffeine is my drug of choice oh my god it was like bad like boomer memes on a

00:19:11.620 t-shirt i cook with wine sometimes i even put it in the food right like that's the like level that

00:19:17.860 we're at here i was selling cringe t-shirts on the internet when cringe t-shirts were but a

00:19:23.540 glimmer in your eye wow yes you're like so cool dave like most biohackers he has an origin story

00:19:31.820 that is sort of gussied up, but is ultimately an absolutely bog standard dieting origin story. 0.75

00:19:41.920 Essentially, he was fatter than he wanted to be, and his mind wasn't as sharp as he wanted it to

00:19:47.020 be. I'm going to send you a quote. This is from a New York Times profile of Dave Asprey from 2015,

00:19:55.100 and it really sort of encapsulates that little origin story. It says,

00:19:59.420 After his failed low-calorie diet, he tried others.

00:20:02.860 The Zone, Atkins, raw veganism, high-protein, and intermittent fasting.

00:20:06.920 At the same time, he went to extreme lengths to collect additional data on his body's performance.

00:20:11.640 He had adrenal testing done to better understand how his hormones worked.

00:20:14.860 Extensive blood work let him monitor his glucose and albumin levels.

00:20:18.700 He got DNA tests to look for genes that might cause immunodeficiency

00:20:21.860 and sent out samples of his feces to learn about the microbes in his digestive tract.

00:20:26.360 He bought an electroencephalogram, or EEG machine, to monitor his brainwaves.

00:20:31.320 Once, in 2006, hoping to treat gut problems, he placed an order online for a shipment of parasites called porcine whipworm.

00:20:39.020 The eggs arrived from Thailand a few days later in a saline solution.

00:20:42.440 He drank the whole thing, hoping they would trigger an anti-inflammatory reaction in his gut.

00:20:48.380 They didn't.

00:20:49.560 That's what the early internet was, is grifts.

00:20:52.960 that's the only thing you could get on the early internet was cute t-shirts and worms

00:20:58.960 dave asprey is not himself a scientist okay but he credentials himself very frequently by talking

00:21:07.660 about how he comes from a family of quote-unquote hard science oh what what does that mean i'm not

00:21:13.760 a doctor but my wife is an md okay who not for nothing in press very frequently they like make

00:21:23.720 little notes that are like his wife disagrees oh so he's using her as a credential but also 0.98

00:21:28.240 she says he's full of shit she's like that's not right yeah also my dad is a dentist and i am not 0.98

00:21:32.960 qualified to give you advice about 100 percent like my dad is a pilot but i can't fly a plane 1.00

00:21:38.640 part of the stolen valor is my wife is an md and part of the stolen valor is my grandparents were

00:21:46.060 scientists grandparents and when you go oh what kind of science were your grandparents practicing

00:21:52.760 he says my grandparents worked on the manhattan project oh to which i say that's not the flex

00:22:01.120 you think it is that's also so fucking weird because it's not anything to do with nutrition

00:22:05.320 and also it's your grandparents not even your parents right they didn't pass that knowledge 0.91

00:22:09.900 down to you genetically my credentials are impeccable my wife disagrees with me and she

00:22:15.860 talked to her and my grandparents did one of the most infamously bad things for the last hundred

00:22:21.140 years so so he defines biohacking for himself as quote the art and science of changing the

00:22:30.920 environment around you or inside you so that you have full control of your own biology now

00:22:39.060 clue number one that he is maybe not a scientist himself yeah is the phrase so that you have full

00:22:48.560 control of your own biology i i kind of appreciate the fact that it's so just like openly fulfilling

00:22:55.080 a psychological need 100 he's like this is the way that you can take back control of your body

00:22:59.180 which you lost control of it's like yeah we're all getting older man but also it feels like

00:23:03.820 this weird combo of like men having nowhere to put any feelings that are not like rage yeah yeah or 0.89

00:23:12.040 victory right right and men not being able to take a single fucking l even one as standard as just 0.89

00:23:20.360 like oh you have a human body that's aging right like but have you considered that i don't want to 0.99

00:23:24.440 die. Totally. And there's like this class overlay, right? Where like Dave Asprey is talking about

00:23:30.200 spending a million dollars. Brian Johnson is talking about spending multiple millions of

00:23:34.780 dollars. And there is like this class layer that is like, I'm going to buy the thing that other

00:23:41.020 people, the one thing that other people can't have, which is a version of immortality. Their

00:23:47.380 only solution to problems is throwing money at them. So you would think this would be a guy with

00:23:52.320 a lot of systemic critiques of like environmental safety, of regulation, of a bunch of stuff.

00:23:58.000 And I will say it does not tilt in the direction of good health care for all.

00:24:05.020 Right. Of course not. It never does. Yeah.

00:24:06.760 I'm sending you a quote from a Forbes profile of Asprey.

00:24:11.020 Asprey dreams of a world where instead of deferring to medical experts and profit-seeking

00:24:15.720 drug companies, we become experts in our own systems and experiment on them at will.

00:24:20.780 Unsurprisingly, this has made Asprey suspicious of regulation.

00:24:24.220 Regulation got us the food pyramid that causes heart disease, cancer, and diabetes in unprecedented numbers of people, he told me.

00:24:30.500 It got us an incredibly slow-to-innovate medical system that's now being disrupted.

00:24:34.900 It is anti-human to tell someone that they do not have the choice to put whatever they want into their bodies.

00:24:39.860 It's basic human freedom.

00:24:41.080 I think it's unethical that I need to spend $150 in an hour of my life to get a permission slip to take a substance.

00:24:47.560 There is no, no reason for that. 0.99

00:24:49.420 parentheses Asprey's wife disagrees dude so he's just like kind of an asshole with these kind of 0.99

00:24:56.780 like quasi not quite right-wing beliefs but like on-ramp to right-wing beliefs yeah or at least 0.98

00:25:01.880 like the kind of just like brain dead anti-system stuff that we saw in the blue zones documentary

00:25:08.720 where he's like you're not gonna find the truth in some petri dish except Asprey is like lovingly

00:25:14.400 gazing into the reflecting pool of a thousand Petri dishes. He's so happy. Yeah. Narcissus in

00:25:21.620 the Petri dish. Yeah. I mean, I think like he does have systemic critiques, right? Yeah. The

00:25:27.180 systemic critiques are like too much red tape. Get out of here. Right. They're bad. They're bad

00:25:34.440 systemic critiques. Yeah. As Bulletproof Coffee sort of broke through Bulletproof Coffee is getting

00:25:40.920 more and more popular and while that's happening dave asprey is busy building a business right

00:25:46.080 he's selling bulletproof's own coffee which he calls quote-unquote upgraded coffee which they

00:25:52.080 say is low mold and some of which has additives like adaptogens and that sort of thing right b

00:25:58.700 vitamins that kind of thing they also sell a bulletproof powdered creamer for your bulletproof

00:26:04.360 coffee so he's gone straight from like make coffee with these ingredients you can get anywhere to

00:26:09.480 make coffee with these ingredients you can only be 100% sure of if you buy them from me.

00:26:14.120 Also, yeah, wait a minute. This just occurred to me because I don't put milk in my coffee.

00:26:18.120 But like, what's the difference between putting butter in your coffee and putting cream in your

00:26:20.460 coffee? Not much. Isn't that something thousands, like millions of people do all the time? How did

00:26:24.480 this just occur to me now? I think as far as his thinking appears to go on that front is,

00:26:29.420 well, I used to drink coffee with cream in it, and that didn't make me feel amazing and biohacked.

00:26:33.700 Right. This did. Right. He also starts selling protein bars with collagen.

00:26:38.120 he starts selling supplements

00:26:40.820 like melatonin gummies

00:26:43.100 and apple cider vinegar gummies

00:26:45.300 and like a greens powder

00:26:46.920 oh god

00:26:48.120 he has a vision supplement called

00:26:50.320 eye armor 1.00

00:26:51.900 just say this is for your dick 1.00

00:27:01.620 it's all dick juice 1.00

00:27:04.000 your dick will get bigger if you drink this shit 1.00

00:27:07.180 Please don't say dick juice. I beg to differ. Don't call it dick juice. 1.00

00:27:13.060 Men just like need to be told that everything is like you're a gladiator. You're not taking a 0.98

00:27:17.080 supplement. From there, he starts working on a diet book, The Bulletproof Diet, which is published

00:27:23.100 in 2014. As part of the book rollout, Dave Asprey got a really significant amount of mainstream

00:27:31.740 coverage. He gets this profile in Forbes. He gets a profile in men's health. He gets covered in the

00:27:37.040 New York Times in a stellar profile from Jay Wortham. And I think the thing that is really

00:27:44.100 notable to me here is that the coverage of Dave Asprey is like a resounding no. We love that.

00:27:50.880 It's a rare moment where we get to go, hey, good job, media. This is like actually the level of

00:27:55.600 skepticism that you should be bringing to any number of miracle health claims. The other

00:28:01.320 dust up that he has is as it turns out with the FTC of course of course I was waiting for this

00:28:09.300 chapter what do you think can I tell me what you what's your guess of what the FTC is citing him

00:28:14.700 on it's got to be false claims right it's got to be selling products with like this boost your

00:28:19.120 immunity or something like that's what they got lucky charms for that letter here's my other clue

00:28:22.720 to you that letter was sent in June 2020 oh I was just gonna say what kind of COVID grifting was he

00:28:28.840 doing is he a certified importer of pete evans's like red light that cures covid the letter that

00:28:35.820 they sent him is about a specific blog post on his website the title of that blog post is what i do to

00:28:43.160 protect myself from coronavirus and how i plan to kick it if i get it in this post he describes

00:28:49.940 covid as being primarily about inflammation sure and then lists a bunch of things he does

00:28:56.520 and consumes to reduce inflammation what he's referring to is sage oregano bay leaf olive oil

00:29:06.000 vitamin d zinc magnesium coq10 l glutamine bulletproof's unfair advantage supplement

00:29:14.980 omega-3 fatty acids and all of those my good man are amazon affiliate links

00:29:22.620 we didn't even know anything about the virus like actual scientists did not know terribly

00:29:28.540 much about the virus in june of 2020 right people are wiping down doritos bags yeah i know

00:29:35.020 with clorox wipes yeah these guys are already promising they know the secret dave asprey has

00:29:41.400 also been back in the news again in the last few months the washington post quoted him in a piece

00:29:50.480 just a couple months ago in January. And I am sending you that quote.

00:29:55.920 It says, Dave Asprey, an author, podcaster, and self-professed founder of the biohacking movement,

00:30:01.680 says he believes Kennedy's influence would even the playing field with big pharmaceutical

00:30:05.720 corporations and allow companies such as his to make broader claims about health benefits.

00:30:10.720 The FDA requires positive results in rigorous clinical trials before drugs and products can

00:30:15.400 be declared cures or designated to treat certain conditions. This is the dawning of a new age

00:30:20.400 of biohacking because bobby kennedy is going to remove the use of regulations that prevent

00:30:25.600 competition said asprey so he's like hooray we're not gonna have to warn people anymore 0.97

00:30:31.640 about the side of like it's so nuts to say that shit out loud to a reporter from the washington 0.97

00:30:38.940 post these guys are basically like they're openly saying the fda won't let us lie to you there are 0.98

00:30:44.300 so many layers to what is going on

00:30:46.420 and every product that he sells

00:30:48.500 have like five or

00:30:50.380 six factual claims

00:30:52.320 in the marketing materials

00:30:54.040 so it's just like

00:30:55.880 just a thicket of

00:30:58.360 fact checking and also it feels almost

00:31:00.340 perfunctory because it's like every single thing

00:31:02.440 that comes out of his mouth is like 1.00

00:31:04.100 bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit 1.00

00:31:06.520 bullshit bullshit bullshit but it's cool 1.00

00:31:08.420 my wife is a doctor 1.00

00:31:09.680 and my grandparents had something to do

00:31:12.540 with the atomic bomb

00:31:13.540 okay so mike from here we are gonna go ahead and dive into the actual text of the actual

00:31:22.500 bulletproof diet yes that's where we're going next is the name of the book this time baby

00:31:28.680 i'll be bulletproof good job good job i'm actually very curious about this because what else is there

00:31:33.380 it's butter and coffee it's like one item and then you have to build like a whole lifestyle

00:31:37.020 around it somehow i'm actually gonna send you a quote from the introduction to the bulletproof

00:31:44.000 diet that is a really tight little encapsulation of sort of like all of the promises that it is

00:31:51.960 making oh i want to mispronounce this word so bad to troll people but i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna 0.77

00:31:57.440 i'm gonna do it correctly we already had too many fucking emails okay i'm gonna say it right 0.83

00:32:02.780 I'm going to do the Peter thing and start complaining about people complaining to me. 0.93

00:32:07.580 Yes.

00:32:10.400 Okay.

00:32:11.260 This may seem like hyperbole, but your diet is the foundation behind not only your weight,

00:32:16.080 but also your IQ, stress levels, risk of disease, physical performance, aging, and even willpower.

00:32:21.800 You are what you eat.

00:32:23.040 What would it feel like to improve in all of these areas simply by making better choices

00:32:27.760 about what you put on your plate?

00:32:29.300 When you begin following the Bulletproof Diet, you'll know the answer within only two weeks

00:32:33.600 while losing up to a pound a day and never feeling deprived or hungry. 1.00

00:32:38.120 Oh, sweetie, this is the bullshit they've been selling women for like decades. 1.00

00:32:42.500 Totally. 1.00

00:32:42.840 Just starve yourself, lose a ton of weight, but like you won't feel hungry, bestie.

00:32:46.260 Totally, but it's from a dude and a CEO and a pioneer of online commerce.

00:32:53.060 Yeah, and he's doing this whole like reducing your stress levels and like high performance, 0.62

00:32:57.340 It's like it's male coded.

00:32:58.820 Yeah.

00:32:59.080 But it's basically somehow like to lose a pound a day, we're talking about essentially not eating or barely eating.

00:33:04.180 So the idea that you can not eat and also perform well and not feel hungry.

00:33:09.140 Like, I'm sorry that this just is not going to happen.

00:33:12.100 He claims that he personally increased his IQ through following.

00:33:17.380 How did I not even mention that?

00:33:18.960 I was like, we don't tie into the IQ stuff.

00:33:20.800 the bulletproof diet includes either nods to or prescriptions to the keto diet intermittent

00:33:30.540 fasting sleep hygiene grounding mats collagen peptides raw milk animal fats high intensity

00:33:40.600 interval training anti-inflammatory diets and lots of references to your quote-unquote

00:33:47.280 lizard brain oh good stuff god it is just a sludge of 2010s wellness trends this is one of those

00:33:56.020 oftentimes people will ask us like hey is there an episode that i can like send my mom because

00:33:59.880 she's like getting really into intermittent fasting or something with this it's like i'm

00:34:03.500 sorry you just have to listen to the entire corpus of the show a little bit listen to 130 episodes

00:34:09.240 i'm so sorry is shit that we've like addressed in various places but it's it's sort of all the

00:34:14.480 same brand of like grift the functional core of the diet is a mix of keto and intermittent fasting

00:34:22.160 but it has this overlay of extraordinarily byzantine guidance okay according to the

00:34:31.240 bulletproof diet quote-unquote healthy fats should make up 50 to 70 percent of your calories for the

00:34:37.700 day the guidance around protein is a little bit squishier he says that you should aim for quote

00:34:45.420 between 0.325 and 0.75 grams of protein a day per pound of body weight okay michael it's time

00:34:56.540 for my favorite game yeah i was the master i didn't want to be the one to ask like what does

00:35:01.900 does mean for you all right michael we're doing it 0.325 to 0.75 grams of protein a day per pound

00:35:09.360 of body weight i am currently in the neighborhood of 330 pounds according to this i need to eat

00:35:16.000 between 107 and 248 grams of protein per day how much uh dried cod is that you're on like the rock

00:35:24.620 diet another way of looking at it is in eggs 17 to 41 eggs per day that's not even a diet issue

00:35:32.680 i'm worried about your finances so that's your protein guidance and that's only supposed to make

00:35:37.880 up 20 of the calories that you eat for the day okay so i should be eating 41 eggs and then

00:35:45.260 five times that many calories of something else and then like a side of carb-free hash browns

00:35:52.980 but like 41 of them.

00:35:54.340 All of that happens within a six-hour, quote-unquote, feeding window.

00:35:58.540 This is the intermittent fasting.

00:35:59.600 Oh, it's like an intermittent fasting thing, okay.

00:36:01.000 On top of all of that, there are specific schedules for protein fasting and carb refeeding.

00:36:09.620 Okay.

00:36:11.260 It always has to be so weirdly specific.

00:36:13.900 I'm sending you a little quote.

00:36:15.960 Once a week, on days 6 and 13, you'll get to try out bulletproof protein fasting.

00:36:21.080 To get a thorough scrub down of your cells that will make you feel, look, and think like a much

00:36:25.820 younger person, it's important to stick to the program on these days and limit your protein

00:36:30.220 intake by eating the recommended meals. Oh, so you're overeating protein on some days and

00:36:34.400 undereating protein on other days? Yep, totally.

00:36:36.820 This is also your opportunity to refeed on carbohydrates, and I focused the meal plan

00:36:41.580 for those days to include the most beneficial, bulletproof, high-carb, low-protein meals.

00:36:47.200 Why? Oh, he's just like making things harder than they have to be.

00:36:50.680 100%.

00:36:51.160 This is also something we've talked about.

00:36:52.420 The pattern is you make the diet as arcane and complicated as possible so that that way

00:36:58.080 when people fail, you can always say, oh, it's your fault for not following this like

00:37:01.900 deranged set of rules.

00:37:03.140 Well, and I think in this case, right, he's selling this as sort of a cutting edge scientific

00:37:09.860 kind of approach.

00:37:11.600 And I think there's something about having a lot of really complicated, intricate steps

00:37:17.620 to follow.

00:37:18.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:18.900 That gives the impression that it's been really rigorously tested.

00:37:24.480 So you have to do it this way.

00:37:26.120 And not that the rigorous testing was like Facebook recruitment.

00:37:29.980 This honestly sounds like he's like my Wario.

00:37:32.400 Like he's on Google Scholar reading the abstract and then like concluding a bunch of things.

00:37:37.960 So he creates categories to describe what I would call like red light, yellow light and green light foods.

00:37:47.120 Okay, here.

00:37:47.820 so describe to me michael what you're seeing here uh it's like a spectrum of foods and then at the

00:37:55.480 bottom it's kryptonite those are the worst foods and at the top it's bulletproof foods and so at

00:37:59.900 the top the most bulletproof starches are pumpkin butternut squash sweet potato the mike lifestyle

00:38:05.940 yams and carrots and then at the bottom the worst starches are wheat corn millet other grains

00:38:12.680 potato starch, corn starch, gluten-free powders. And then in between, he's got various other,

00:38:19.260 yeah, like black rice, wild rice, potatoes. They're all at kind of like different levels

00:38:22.620 of the spectrum. This seems fine to me, Aubrey. I think foods, I think foods are inherently good

00:38:26.900 or bad. We can place them all on a spectrum. Absolutely. And quinoa is one of the worst.

00:38:32.440 Oh, quinoa's the second worst. Buckwheat, oats, quinoa, coming for oats.

00:38:36.280 also interestingly white rice is the second to the best tier right second closest to bulletproof

00:38:44.600 right but black rice wild rice and brown rice are like dead center yeah that's weird because

00:38:50.280 usually people are like brown rice is way better than white rice because of the extra fiber that's

00:38:53.940 the level of like granularity we're talking about here he has another one of fruits and he's like

00:39:01.540 the best fruits you can have are blackberries and raspberries and coconut, but blueberries are not

00:39:08.140 very good. And cantaloupe is the worst for you. Wait, what is he basing this on? He's basing this

00:39:14.520 on like a bizarre little pastiche that he has developed in his brain of weird little straggly

00:39:21.680 bits of research from different places. Some of this is ranked based on mold. Some of it is ranked

00:39:27.780 based on anti-nutrients some of it is ranked based on how it personally makes dave asprey feel

00:39:33.460 yeah yeah yeah and he's not really telling you where the sources of each of those rankings are

00:39:39.180 coming from yeah there are studies in this book that have an n of two oh really nice one of the

00:39:45.020 studies that i looked at had an n of two it would be very funny to like as a flex be like oh you're

00:39:49.680 basing your health advice on an anecdote mine's twice as good as that mine's based on two anecdotes

00:39:56.100 actually the guidance beyond specific foods is very very strange he has specific guidance on

00:40:05.280 cooking meat he's like the most bulletproof way to cook meat is to cook it as little as possible

00:40:11.400 why are these guys like this quote grass-fed animal products are much less likely to contain

00:40:18.300 parasites pathogens and toxins than those from grain-fed animals so i think it's safe to eat

00:40:25.320 them on the rare side he says this a number of times because food safety comes from the handling

00:40:29.480 of it after it's been killed it's not the diet of the animal right when he talks about grass-fed

00:40:34.440 meat he talks about it in opposition not reliably to grain-fed meat but to factory farming but also

00:40:41.080 grass grass-fed meat is also made at like a large scale by large corporations it's not as if like

00:40:46.100 jeff the farmer down the street is producing all of like the grass-fed stuff this is i think so

00:40:51.400 much of this stuff does fulfill a kind of psychological need because it feels like he's

00:40:55.860 telling himself if i eat the right foods i won't get food poisoning it is self-talk made real yeah

00:41:02.100 yeah yeah yeah he says that if you do have to cook meat you should boil it oh what quote boiling

00:41:10.340 water prevents oxidation of fats and proteins because it displaces most of the oxygen boiled

00:41:16.500 meat often isn't particularly flavorful but it's fine for soups and shredded meat dishes

00:41:21.920 boiled vegetables are healthy and the extra water you drain away may remove unwanted anti-nutrients

00:41:28.940 oh my god may may is doing some heavy lifting in that one that's why international workers day

00:41:34.920 is in may because it does so much work this is somehow more offensive to me than like the 0.99

00:41:38.980 misinformation because i'm like this is gonna taste like shit dave boiled meat sucks 0.93

00:41:43.360 he also has guidance on what to do when you're going out to eat at a restaurant okay dave 0.99

00:41:51.900 asprey writes that when he goes out to eat he brings some things with him he brings a stick

00:41:58.260 of grass-fed butter he brings a container of brain octane dude mct oil and he brings some sea salt 0.99

00:42:08.640 dude that's so passive aggressive to go to a fucking restaurant with your own food 0.95

00:42:13.340 sometimes he says he also brings an avocado that way he says he can order something basic and quote 0.99

00:42:19.980 pump it up to meet your news standards i guarantee there's an entire discord server

00:42:25.940 of waitresses who've had to serve him like did you get the weird butter stick just this guy came

00:42:31.700 in with wraparound blue blocker sunglasses and his own mct oil he's like oh just a water please

00:42:39.180 do you want to know what his breakfast order is when he goes out to eat uh just the waitress's

00:42:43.580 phone number he says that he orders poached eggs and then melts his grass-fed butter on top and

00:42:49.600 pours mct oil at a restaurant dave are you going into a restaurant with a stick of room temp butter

00:42:58.520 in your pocket it's like it's like having like a toddler where you have to explain like no no no

00:43:07.720 this is where we go and other people make food we don't bring our own food to the restaurant

00:43:11.820 it's like so weird he says quote i've even done this in four-star hotel restaurants

00:43:17.660 if the chef notices we always have an interesting conversation 0.99

00:43:21.980 again a load-bearing word in that sentence interesting conversation what the fuck is 0.95

00:43:29.980 wrong with you bro and listen there are people who have dietary restrictions who have severe 0.99

00:43:35.620 food allergies and then you got these guys with their optional ass like i gotta live to 180 shit 0.99

00:43:43.660 like i just read this whole section about going out to eat and i was like you are the reason for 0.99

00:43:49.900 the no substitutions signs uh instead of having fries on the side do you mind if i just have uh

00:43:56.740 this overripe avocado that i brought from my home now i have a quote for you that's just funny i

00:44:01.840 just read it and it was extremely funny so i'm sending to you because it's funny you may not

00:44:05.900 know it but you've always been on the bulletproof diet you may have just made poorer choices in the

00:44:10.520 past and eaten more kryptonite than you have been for the past two weeks but that's because you

00:44:14.820 didn't have a roadmap or a tool to help you navigate it you were always on this diet you've 0.99

00:44:19.480 just been fucking it up yeah you're just terrible haven't you always been drinking butter in your 0.99

00:44:25.020 coffee you just haven't been putting butter in your coffee i did not mention to you that 0.99

00:44:29.240 dave asprey has a very specific look to him let's let's make fun of his looks please aubrey just

00:44:35.900 once on this show you know what we deserve a treat let's do it head to toe let's start with

00:44:39.960 the ears no no no damn he is in a constant state of wearing these very funny looking to me 0.79

00:44:47.840 wraparound glasses with like orange yellow tinted lenses does he drive a cyber truck 0.96

00:44:55.800 i mean i wouldn't be surprised okay he has cyber truck energy uh no you know what he has it's not

00:45:00.960 cyber truck it's segway they're gonna take over we're all gonna be on these things in another

00:45:08.500 couple months yes that is the meanest thing you've ever said about anyone on this show

00:45:13.580 that is that is the deepest dig on anyway that's worse than making fun of his looks 0.99

00:45:18.520 you're like this motherfucker would have been into segues oh no 1.00

00:45:21.860 i've never seen you like this aubrey wow she's a monster let's just sit in silence and like 1.00

00:45:30.200 think about what we've done some cold shit so i wanted to close this out by talking about some 0.94

00:45:38.000 of the core tactics that he is using here, because I think it's a really interesting 0.86

00:45:43.780 window into the kinds of tactics that get deployed in diets that are predominantly marketed

00:45:51.780 toward men. A big part of this book is that he has tons and tons and tons of footnotes.

00:46:00.280 Dave Asprey is citing his studies. He's doing it. What he's not doing is telling you how

00:46:07.980 hard he is cherry picking this is the thing that people often say they're like the left is

00:46:12.800 criticizing my book for being unrigorous but i have 74 pages of footnotes it obviously is the

00:46:18.940 quality of the footnotes and whether you're like accurately describing what's in the footnotes

00:46:23.020 absolutely and the majority of his citations that i like checked into are for rat studies

00:46:31.280 really one of the studies was about rats with kidney disease and he's like that's why humans

00:46:36.440 need to eat this way for the rest of your life. Right. Right. The human studies that he cites

00:46:42.500 often have vanishingly small sample sizes. He cites a number of studies that sound like rock

00:46:50.740 solid and he presents them with a great deal of confidence and only through some pretty extensive

00:46:56.680 like Googling around about the researchers and the topic and who are the voices in the field.

00:47:01.200 Do you realize that he's citing a study that has been pretty widely discredited?

00:47:06.440 He also draws on studies about people with specific health conditions, but doesn't disclose

00:47:11.440 that in the narrative. So for example, he'll tell you about findings about like blood sugar

00:47:18.300 and mortality, but he doesn't tell you that that study was looking at people with diabetes,

00:47:24.900 right? Oh, right. He does this with like kidney stuff. He does it with a number of health

00:47:28.940 conditions where he acts as if the findings are general. I did not read the text of this book,

00:47:34.640 obviously. But I do think it'd be very funny if he's like, you should drink MCT oil. And then

00:47:38.800 there's an asterisk and you follow the asterisk. And it says, if you are a rat with diabetes. 0.99

00:47:44.540 I would love it if the asterisk just said, no, you shouldn't. 0.99

00:47:50.400 This is fake, but I'm saying it anyway.

00:47:52.520 The last thing I will say in this sort of category is that he really does straightforwardly

00:47:57.300 ignore counter evidence. He never really acknowledges the weaknesses in his own

00:48:02.740 interpretation he never really says hey if you want to do this with me come on down but definitely

00:48:08.480 like proceed at your own risk right so it sounds like what he's describing is scientific consensus

00:48:15.400 right but that's just because he's not really bothered with having a broader more contextualized

00:48:22.560 more grounded and accurate conversation i want to say it's weird to me but it's not that weird

00:48:27.380 but it's frustrating that over and over again, people refuse to spread the actual scientific

00:48:34.460 consensus, which is that like, we just don't know that there's a specific lifestyle that is going

00:48:38.360 to produce health for every single person. I don't find this all that difficult to like

00:48:42.440 acknowledge and that I can like, I love riding my bike. I don't think everybody should ride

00:48:46.660 their bike. Some people don't like biking. It's fine. I mean, I think in some ways that kind of

00:48:51.060 evangelism comes from like a really human place of like, Oh, totally. I discovered a thing. I

00:48:56.920 really like it and I used to feel bad but now I feel better and I want for other people to also

00:49:02.600 feel better yeah and my assumption is if it worked for me then it works for everyone this is where

00:49:08.680 we all reveal ourselves to be like a little more self-centered than we think of ourselves as being

00:49:13.780 right yeah totally he also throughout the book plays both sides of the same argument I think

00:49:20.400 this is sort of a human fallibility thing that sometimes we'll say that something like it's a

00:49:25.480 benefit that something is really inexpensive and other times something being really inexpensive

00:49:29.040 makes it suspect right i would never suspect anything for being inexpensive but yes he

00:49:32.900 frequently talks about things that he positions as being on the cutting edge because there are

00:49:37.660 only animal studies about it or because it's under-researched in some other way he finds

00:49:43.560 ways to make a lack of research evidence something that is like good yeah yeah yeah but also when

00:49:50.980 he's talking about things he does not like right he's like it's really scary how little data there

00:49:56.660 is here okay in his section about artificial sweeteners he writes quote there have been very

00:50:02.140 few studies on the safety of the artificial sweetener ace k in humans and researchers are

00:50:08.740 concerned about it this is scary and my personal experiences with ace k are even scarier i developed

00:50:16.620 benign nodules on my thyroid from consuming high amounts of ace k in the late 90s when on an atkins

00:50:24.360 style diet okay so you're like well you had a bad experience and you don't trust this thing

00:50:30.040 ergo you're like the lack of research is really concerning right but you tried another thing and

00:50:35.200 it made you personally feel better so you're like the lack of research just means they don't want

00:50:39.740 you to know or lack of research just means it's like too new and cutting edge right again it's a

00:50:45.720 tough one because it is like a human thing you and i have talked about this offline i think it's

00:50:51.660 part of the reason that i find arguments about people being hypocrites like not very effective

00:50:58.280 or moving because we're kind of all doing that all completely yes i'm not gonna pretend i have

00:51:03.040 these like content neutral standards for doing science either like i'm i'm a biased human being

00:51:07.580 just like everybody else completely so it's a tough one to be like look out for this thing that

00:51:11.340 humans sort of just do. But like, do look out for this thing that humans just sort of do, right?

00:51:17.500 Because like there are hazards in the world that have not been studied adequately. And like,

00:51:20.740 maybe it will turn out that there are food additives or something that are causing real

00:51:24.080 harm. But also you can't just say this is harmful because there's no research. And this other thing,

00:51:29.540 this is good because there's no research. Yeah, absolutely. And also, again, you have to be

00:51:35.000 willing to trust that dave asprey is giving you the correct citations here and the right numbers

00:51:41.880 and that he's citing them correctly and that they're like you know from like the nih and not

00:51:48.160 from like movie phone or whatever you know what i mean like you have to be willing to trust him

00:51:54.040 right but when it's presented in this package of a book that is you know several hundred pages long

00:52:00.800 and has a ton of footnotes and is flooding you with information that sounds really technical

00:52:07.020 and is being presented by someone who has an immense amount of confidence in his own analysis.

00:52:13.520 It's really easy for this kind of stuff to slip under the radar just because you're getting

00:52:18.640 overwhelmed with so much of what looks like information. His approach doesn't immediately

00:52:25.680 present as a grift in part because of all of that sort of like scientific veneer that goes over the

00:52:32.100 top of it but also because he believes it like i think he really is a true believer right so it

00:52:39.620 doesn't strike you as inauthentic which means it often will strike people as being true right i

00:52:45.660 really want one of his citations to be to like snap a lid 1997 that's it for the show notes my

00:52:52.540 guy hey we did it how you feeling uh good what do we what do we want to conclude i'd just like

00:53:00.620 to remind all of our listeners that you've always been on the bulletproof diet you've just been 0.96

00:53:05.160 fucking it up you've uh you've already been there done that messed around 0.97

00:53:22.540 We'll be right back. 0.99

Maintenance Phase - March 26, 2025

The Bulletproof Diet

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