Missing Witches - Beltane 2026： Midwives To New Worlds - MWRF 2026 Part 1

00:00:00.000 It's Beltane. It's May Day. It's the halfway point between spring equinox and summer solstice.

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00:01:40.120 Go to missingwitches.com slash reparations for all the details,

00:01:44.180 but in the meantime, join me now for a conversation with shaman author,

00:01:50.140 her latest is Hoshan, granddaughter crow,

00:01:54.720 Amour Lynx, fabulous artist and musician,

00:01:59.480 Christopher Marmaleho, author of Red Tarot,

00:02:02.460 and Patti Croweck, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club.

00:02:10.780 So thank you to the Missing Witches Coven and thank you to my guests for joining me to kick

00:02:16.900 off the sixth annual Missing Witches Reparations fundraiser. Quick note, this year we've gathered

00:02:24.920 over $6,000 in prizes to celebrate the sixth year we went hard. $6,000 were the prizes waiting to be

00:02:33.840 won. For us, the month of May is an opportunity to direct resources toward a re-indigenized world 0.97

00:02:42.540 and refocus our spotlight on the vast and prismatic ways that First Nations artists,

00:02:50.540 authors, thinkers, and creators are midwifing new worlds into being.

00:02:59.420 For me personally, it's become less about making reparations for the past, although that is still

00:03:05.080 an important guidepost, but more about funding the future. What revolution do I want to be funding?

00:03:14.520 and that is re-indigenizing the world um if you noticed me use an incredible turn of phrase

00:03:23.320 midwifing new worlds that comes from bad indians book club by patty krawick so i'm just going to

00:03:31.280 read a quick paragraph here there is something defiant about being a bad indian about leaning

00:03:41.620 into these negative stereotypes, something adolescent and feral. If I'm going to get 0.99

00:03:47.800 into trouble anyway, I might as well deserve it. This book is, ultimately, a book about refusal.

00:03:57.320 Refusing political categories and borders and violence that come with them. Refusing to

00:04:03.000 assimilate by becoming the kind of person the state cannot assimilate. It's written by a bad

00:04:10.340 Indian, who doesn't just want to survive this current apocalypse. I want to join with others, 0.99

00:04:19.280 bad Indians and more, to midwife new worlds into being. 1.00

00:04:27.700 So GDC, Patty, Chris, Lynx, thank you so much once again for joining me to kick off the MWRF 0.99

00:04:39.140 2026 and to midwife new worlds into being so let's start with patty can you unpack this metaphor a

00:04:49.000 little bit for me of the the midwife and the new world both halves of the metaphor

00:04:55.840 well could we talk in movements you know movement building and movement spaces we talk a lot about

00:05:05.200 you know, emerging worlds and world built, you know, world building. We talk a lot about world

00:05:09.420 building. And I think worlds, I don't know that we're necessarily building worlds. I think worlds

00:05:22.660 are coming. And we can choose to be part of their emergence or not. And midwives, I mean, I went to

00:05:31.320 high school I had to have a high school friend who became a midwife I've known midwives I've

00:05:35.540 known doulas I know death doulas um actually death doula training is something that intrigues me but

00:05:42.200 I need new projects like I need a hole in the head I do not need any new projects um but these

00:05:48.980 are all people who just help guide the transition right from one world to another from one way of

00:05:55.520 existing. And, and so that's kind of what I was thinking was not so much world building

00:05:59.960 as helping with that transition with bringing something new. Cause I mean, we could call it

00:06:07.780 anything that we like, right. We, you know, we turn on the phones or the TV and we know that

00:06:13.540 things are changing, right? We know that it's not mysterious. It's not mystical. It's happening in

00:06:21.320 front of us but what do we want that new world to look like how do we want to engage with and

00:06:26.360 participate in that new world how are we getting each other ready for whatever is coming so that

00:06:33.860 we can meet it well that's what i'm thinking that's what i was thinking about and so not just

00:06:39.040 bad indians with but also others who else are we this book is very much and my thinking is very

00:06:46.480 much about broad coalitions who are we working with who else is out there doing this work right

00:06:52.720 because nobody we're never doing it alone um and we're not inventing anything new right these

00:06:59.300 movements have been around for decades centuries millennia right we want people to reach back into

00:07:04.120 their stories into their own stories they don't need our stories can guide the way right but

00:07:09.220 everything you need is in your own stories it's in your own history you just got to pick the

00:07:15.680 colonial garbage off of it and for some of us that's harder than others it's for maybe further

00:07:20.360 back but that's what I was thinking I was thinking how because that's the work of a midwife is to

00:07:26.420 help the mom help the family help the baby you know is to do that work the midwife isn't the

00:07:32.000 one who's building anything but the but none of it happens without her so that's what I was thinking

00:07:38.480 and there's and there's something in there too about um the the birth giver sort of making a

00:07:44.980 deal with life and death right that when you're ushering in these new worlds and in in humans

00:07:51.500 and in animals you know the process of giving birth is life-threatening but it's also the exact

00:07:57.700 opposite it's life-giving and life-threatening and i think um maybe we've lost a bit of sight

00:08:04.560 of that that revolutionary work is dangerous and messy and messy if you've ever seen a birth

00:08:14.400 that's messy yeah we can't have a clean revolution we can't have a clean birth

00:08:22.740 um links I want to talk about your work you are are or have been um working with augmented reality

00:08:33.300 and and I love this first of all it's like you know you work with technology

00:08:39.180 um and we've talked about this so much in the past that we don't really need to get into it now

00:08:45.020 but this meeting place of you know ancient um tribal primordial even versus like super contemporary

00:08:55.260 future but i want to know about your version of the world when you augment reality digitally like

00:09:03.900 what are you what are you doing um materially what are you hoping how are you hoping to augment

00:09:11.000 the world in like outside the gallery i know it's a big question hi i love you how are you

00:09:19.260 hearing patty's um excerpt is endlessly inspiring and just like changed and shifted my mood from the

00:09:31.160 day so really grateful to be around all of you again and this is a big question I think

00:09:39.920 and as uh as you were all speaking it brought into mind like language and reconnecting with

00:09:51.200 language. And recently, I started, I don't know, I started working at a friendship center doing

00:10:01.980 like beginner language lessons of my traditional language as a beginner. And I kept telling the

00:10:08.360 students, I'm not a teacher, I'm a mentor, because I don't know my shit. But there's something about 0.99

00:10:15.580 worldview and it being intrinsically tied to how you speak and how you situate or position yourself

00:10:23.820 to land and space the cosmos as well as just like where you are in physical orientation like your

00:10:32.880 coordinates and place names but most recently in our last class we were talking about how animals

00:10:41.940 got their names and there's a knowledge keeper in the east coast ernest johnson who uh spoke

00:10:49.860 um to to a group and i found it online and there's a word that they have for the

00:10:57.860 the squirrel and it's uh a doodoo a doodoo witch and the root word or in there before you add like

00:11:11.340 the suffix that makes it an animal is storyteller and that has to do with like the way it puts its

00:11:17.820 paws near its mouth and so i think when you're creating new worlds it's this it's this combination

00:11:26.540 of everything that you embody through how you exist in your body in your mind your spirit and

00:11:34.360 as you have that worldview around being in interconnectedness around you and the augmented

00:11:45.700 reality piece was an embodied work I don't want to say that word because it almost sounds a little

00:11:53.020 pretentious but I don't mean it in that way I meant it in the way that

00:11:58.840 I was building a garden I was building a native garden and I was studying the leaves and the

00:12:08.100 placements and what grows beside each other and what the soil needs and what bugs like these

00:12:13.440 things how are those interdependent relationships um necessary and that capitalism versus um

00:12:25.600 not capitalism view of looking at the world where you isolate things into little compartments just

00:12:32.340 does not work with nature um you can't have an ecosystem in a self-contained

00:12:41.040 um hostile sterile environment it has all these things existing and living in that ecosystem

00:12:48.840 there's like soil is worm shit soil is full of bugs soil is full of everything that came before 0.93

00:12:58.040 our ashes and everything else but all of those pre-existing conditions are what creates the 0.97

00:13:07.920 habitat for those things to thrive so when I made the augmented reality I was drawing pictures of

00:13:14.220 the plants while trying to make them go and give them everything that they need and taking a

00:13:20.340 compromised plot like in my garden that was just like you know it was really sad looking it wasn't

00:13:29.160 like rich earth it was you know not cared for for a long time and making sure that you're placing

00:13:37.820 it in the right sun sunlight and all these things but then the augmented reality is to sort of

00:13:46.540 subvert what we see right now so when you're when you have the phone app um engaged you see the

00:13:58.580 buildings around you you see concrete you see um you know tropical plants that maybe aren't from

00:14:06.620 here and then you have these native plants that are thriving up on top of it imagining this future

00:14:14.140 of what what it would look like when things are better

00:14:19.640 so your your augmented reality is a reimagining of a possible future

00:14:28.340 that's what i hope it's sort of taking in all those um prayers

00:14:36.040 and the patience of not knowing what's going to happen when you go into the darkness and

00:14:43.740 just put some trust in the soil in the form of a seed and not know what's going to happen at all

00:14:51.740 and um just really allow it that that space to say that you won't know right away what's going

00:15:03.520 to happen sometimes these effects take years to even show any kind of influence or impact

00:15:10.480 i love this a seed as a container for trust that your trust takes the form of the seed 0.99

00:15:18.640 and then as we go out into this world we take our hopes and we put them in worm shit 0.95

00:15:23.840 and then we pray and tend and nurture and tend

00:15:29.880 thank you links chris i know you are midwifing new worlds i know you are crossing thresholds

00:15:41.480 tell me about the thresholds that you're crossing and the world that you're birthing

00:15:47.280 tell me about your reality augmented or otherwise

00:15:52.040 my gosh i love um this connection that that is that we're having around midwifing um death

00:16:01.380 doulaing doulaing and then gardening you know in this way um gardening a few uh gardener is

00:16:09.180 a futurist of course this is often said right oh my goodness and i certainly really relate to that

00:16:17.120 um i i like to say like i think about my work uh i try to think about my work like beyonce

00:16:23.520 meaning like that there is a there's different scales like that's i feel

00:16:33.200 you know what is that film um mad max fury road and they were saving the cro like the crones had

00:16:39.840 all the seeds for the future you know that like in this that they were like revolutionarily

00:16:45.280 like fighting to go and and turn the desert wasteland back into the garden back into this

00:16:52.440 femme led cultivated curated space and i feel like that crone you know um there is a sense of

00:17:00.660 being also visionary in a way of receiving you know that i just like i just have to keep up with

00:17:10.580 and be patient because the things that I'm trying to birth and realize and be a vessel for

00:17:17.100 have such different scopes um and and sort and timelines for maturation and for creation

00:17:25.120 and I mean publishing and writing is certainly an elephant pregnancy it's certainly a like a slow

00:17:33.580 thing you know what I mean um as is healing as is literally like you know flesh and tendons

00:17:41.460 coming together as is um the recovery of like I'm living by land that like houses have burned down

00:17:49.360 in you know what I mean like forest fires happen in California of course often and so seeing just

00:17:56.100 the scale of like how the land will repair itself after immense disaster um and in trying to

00:18:05.740 always uh wrestle with reckon with all of the ways to read violence um that course like birth

00:18:18.840 is violent as hell you know there's birth is so violent as is so many things and so i think that

00:18:25.000 um that's an important question that I'm always putting my work against and like um

00:18:33.260 the distinction between violence and suffering you know of like this this like sadistic sociopathic

00:18:41.740 of course violence that so many people are suffering within is also a difference than the

00:18:45.800 than the violence and the growing I remember when I was a kid I was just like I could feel my bones

00:18:50.980 growing like the growing pains were so terrible you know like they hurt so bad like they're like

00:18:56.860 but that's good you know that's not a bad that was not bad that was not suffering um and so i think

00:19:03.260 if anything i'm just trying to maintain a confident patience in the worlds that i'm envisioning and

00:19:08.680 letting that vision be flexible in and shifting to be like a spinal cord that is supportive and

00:19:16.780 integral and yet flexible, you know, and has a rich range of motion that can adapt to the many

00:19:25.540 futures that we are generating as we all take the courage to lay hands on the future and shape it

00:19:32.240 ourselves. I have to read this quote. You know this, that there's a quote from your book, Red

00:19:41.960 tarot that I used as a jumping off point as a theme for a coven meeting that we had recently. 0.98

00:19:49.960 You must follow the fool if you want a world where dreams dance out loud. I just wanted to 0.98

00:19:56.200 read this, but this is what I wanted to say. Also, again, from like the same paragraph,

00:20:00.640 Red Tarot. Failure and foolishness are the price of taking any meaningful step toward fulfillment.

00:20:09.620 i'm gonna read it again because i feel like a lot of people are missing this messy part of birth

00:20:16.520 right failure and foolishness are the price of taking any meaningful step toward fulfillment

00:20:27.660 can you just talk to me about why failure and foolishness are so integral just for a minute 1.00

00:20:34.460 I mean failure and foolishness aka faggotry you know what I mean are the ways forward or sideways 1.00

00:20:42.940 or all of the ways um and I love an alliteration as you can tell by that sentence and so there's 1.00

00:20:51.280 something there as well I just think that failure is so much more interesting than like I always

00:20:59.600 tell tell my clients and my students like if you're failing at empire that's a good thing

00:21:03.780 You know, all of the reasons by which I was harassed and, like, ostracized from my social groups growing up, from my peers, were such blessings.

00:21:17.500 And it was because I was just, like, this amazing, queer, you know, psychic, beautiful being that just was, like, it was just beaming.

00:21:27.360 Yeah, you know, and it was like they could not handle it because all of all of these disciplinary and measures that tell you what success is that discipline your body into the being domesticated, you know, into being, as you were saying, links like in these violent, small, self-contained, isolated, like, anomic containers that lead to your own self-destruction because you're not part of a larger ecosystem where.

00:21:53.980 like failure is when you go beyond the failure is a space of exploration you know it's a space

00:22:01.040 of discovery it's a space of experimentation you know that also holds you accountable to not

00:22:07.560 quitting like failure is an is an excuse to to stopping you know and it's like also just like

00:22:14.440 get your ego out of the way and and have fun and dance and sing off key but like the music's gonna

00:22:21.040 flow through you like move your hips they'll loosen up the more that you get over yourself

00:22:26.080 you know um so so I think so often that is such the case and as a as a carny as I like to say as

00:22:32.920 a tarot reader I think there's something so um rebellious and and insurgent that I feel in like

00:22:39.700 put like push failing you know essentially like pursuing the path of failure in being a tarot

00:22:47.160 reader and i love all my tarot readers of course yeah and it relates so much so much to what patty

00:22:53.220 wrote about you know being bad not living up to the expectations that are violent um gdc if i had

00:23:02.580 to choose one word that i think encapsulates your message um it is authenticity this is your

00:23:12.620 personal way of being in the world, but also the message that you repeat over and over and over

00:23:19.180 again. And I think that that's related to this too. You know, to be authentic is to know that

00:23:25.300 if you, quote unquote, make a fool of yourself or you fail, that it has no bearing on your worth

00:23:31.420 as a person. And it's more authentic to fail than to not try or pretend that you haven't.

00:23:37.840 I also know that you are in the process of giving birth, like right now. Your new book, Hoshan, is coming out, like, I think, like, it's May 1st today. So it's coming out like three or four days from now.

00:23:59.560 also um listeners when you make your reparation and join the missing witches reparations fundraiser

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00:24:22.080 also on north atlantic books and we are housemates okay that introduction was far too long tell me

00:24:28.880 everything gdc uh everything would be squares to circles squares to circles guys squares to

00:24:40.180 circles um so thank you so much for saying all of that and for announcing my new baby hochon

00:24:48.720 it is um yeah it's uh an elephant birth like christy first said it was an elephant birth

00:24:57.820 the reason why i'm saying squares to circles is because when i was listening to patty and this

00:25:04.460 ushering in a new world midwifing a new world i was just like new world i i need another like new

00:25:14.220 world what does that what does that mean and ultimately it means manifest here in the third

00:25:19.420 dimension but it starts with consciousness right it's to me it starts with a consciousness shift

00:25:25.560 It starts with a consciousness shift. And then we moved over to Lynx and Lynx is like, yes, you're conscious. This is how I understood your consciousness is displayed and or informed by the words that you were working with and using certain language and inclusivity and these types of things.

00:25:47.400 And, and, and that you can imagine a new world through a conscious shift, which is an app,

00:25:56.940 which I got to check out.

00:25:58.220 I don't know what you're talking about, but that sounded really tasty.

00:26:01.200 So then I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.

00:26:03.800 And, and literally kind of like this, think outside the box, right?

00:26:08.320 Square to circle something that can be encompassed in a garden type situation, something that

00:26:15.720 is being done here with this, with this panel, you know, and it's so cool to me because we live

00:26:23.160 in a world of squares and we need to think in circles. And then of course we get to beautiful

00:26:27.700 Christopher, Christopher Marmalejo, you know, I love you. And this visionary, this visionary and

00:26:35.480 this, you guys get to be rebels if you so choose, like choose which, like what is your consciousness

00:26:45.540 going to do and do not be afraid because let me tell you something you ain't doing anything

00:26:51.740 authentic unless somebody doesn't like it and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that is like

00:26:59.220 the more that I grow and the more my what maybe Amy said like courage or whatever that is grows

00:27:07.820 the more vulnerable I am the more the conditioning of the square on how to think you need to think

00:27:15.080 this way it hits me and i run up against squares right and i need to think circular i need to be

00:27:23.100 like oh is my presence so big that it offends you do i offend you you know it's it's that

00:27:29.020 it's it is the creativity the artist call and i reference hegel who talked about three different

00:27:40.600 types of spirit and one is you know um subjective spirit self to self you know seen in like

00:27:49.240 counseling and psychology and self to self study of self then there's the objective spirit which is

00:27:57.160 self to other you know so you you're looking at the economy sociology and then you get to what

00:28:03.560 hegel says is absolute spirit absolute spirit is defined as they say in and as hegel says in

00:28:14.500 religion which i just say spirituality because limited language right links limited language

00:28:20.100 that he had back then but it's like and creators art art brings absolute spirit art doesn't the

00:28:31.840 the natural world does not draw lines in squares. It is always a, it's not a straight line. It's

00:28:39.340 always a movement. And to bring it back home is to say, we're not sitting in a square and there

00:28:47.780 is no head to this table. We are all equal, all my relations. We bring different aspects of this

00:28:55.980 beautiful diamond called be a little be a little authentic maybe the name of my next book hey guys

00:29:03.920 let's be a little authentic and and what that means is exactly what everybody said it's a midwifery

00:29:10.080 it is a changing in your thinking the changing in the way that maybe your creator within you can

00:29:16.900 imagine the visionary and then just kind of to bring it home to me squares don't think in squares

00:29:25.660 people think in circles um i know that sounds funny but if you know you know so being authentic

00:29:35.560 is giving honor to that which created you it's giving respect to the people around you because

00:29:44.680 then they don't have to guess and if they like your brand they like your brand and if they don't

00:29:49.900 that's okay that's okay it's no weird it's like be your authenticity because it gives

00:29:58.660 gratitude to that which created you

00:30:03.700 can you talk to me a little bit about this this word that jumped out from your

00:30:12.600 your subtitle of your book self-reclamation

00:30:16.640 yes what do you want to know this is scary we just talked about how violent birth can be

00:30:27.300 such self-reclamation can feel very violent as well because

00:30:33.300 you know one could imagine oh reclaiming self oh i'm liberated oh you know i wasn't raised

00:30:42.380 with that type of privilege I wasn't raised thinking that oh well all I have to do is put

00:30:48.400 on a nice suit and tie and walk into you know I was raised in a different way I was raised

00:30:53.840 as quote-unquote other Gen X guys born 1970 and then the other now category is growing and

00:31:04.840 now the others are coming together and we are the others and and when you find yourself in this

00:31:15.220 authentic self-reclamation there will be what i call the watchers at the threshold or i learned

00:31:22.600 that from some sort of serial ceremonial magic and they may call it something else i'm not trying

00:31:27.660 a you know quote out of text but it is this you have the concept of we each have a certain capacity

00:31:37.740 and as we grow and develop or whatever that capacity continues to grow and it's like a

00:31:42.980 circle around us and when we touch the silhouette of our old like capacity you meet what is what I

00:31:54.760 call the guardians there and the guardians will tell you every single thing that you have heard

00:32:01.620 and were programmed that you are other you are not enough you are not indigenous enough you are not

00:32:07.280 pretty enough you are not and and and all of those voices you will have to talk to and

00:32:15.540 like reclaim self in the face of the greatest you know hater which is actually the programs

00:32:24.560 for me I have to stand up to my internal voice that I was programmed to go yeah and and go beyond

00:32:32.920 that so self-reclamation is it's war it's it's it's nasty and it's very very different for people

00:32:43.440 who are artists for people who have been quote unquote others but it's our turn so yeah this is

00:32:51.380 so thrilling, this notion of the others coming together. You know, we talk about this in our

00:32:58.000 witchcraft circles, too, that there are more of us than there are of them. We just have to figure 0.98

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00:34:08.140 So, everybody,

00:34:10.460 um i'm gonna say a couple words and we'll start with patty i want to know what you say

00:34:17.800 in response to these two words um because i've been hearing them a lot lately in many different

00:34:25.480 circles survival mode

00:34:29.480 what comes to mind for you when i say the words survival mode anxiety

00:34:37.920 yeah that's what that's what that's what comes to mind anxiety

00:34:43.160 please expand oh okay sorry i didn't know if you were just popcorning words or what

00:34:51.280 yeah yeah just because survival mode and that's to me that's where i've been for the last six

00:35:00.020 months is in in survival mode and i've been feeling a ton of anxiety and it because when

00:35:07.360 you're in survival mode you're constantly reacting you're constantly catching up right like you don't

00:35:13.620 have a minute and that's what i always say is like you don't i don't have a minute to think

00:35:17.200 or to write but when i do have a minute i spend it numbing right watching tv doom scrolling

00:35:25.860 playing games on my phone i don't spend it doing the very things that i say i want to do that i need

00:35:34.020 to do um because i'm in i'm just trying to keep my head above water and so i and you feel like

00:35:42.380 you don't have any control when you're in survival mode right so you're constantly and you're not

00:35:48.380 surviving either right like you're you're actually not um you know like so you're a ball of anxiety

00:35:57.280 you're just trying to keach up but then the body slows you down something happens and you know what

00:36:05.820 I rediscovered fiction okay I don't have the headspace right now for okay I'm struggling

00:36:10.860 through this book by Chanda and I do love it um but it's hard work to read so I'm like plowing

00:36:18.060 through fiction every couple of days I'm finishing and that's getting me out of that anxious

00:36:23.540 space and christopher i just bought your book

00:36:27.660 red tarot i just like what is that that sounds like thank you and ordered my local bookstore

00:36:35.680 adores me i love technology that you can yeah like as you were talking i'm like that sounds

00:36:43.660 like such a great book i need to buy that but yeah yeah survival mode makes me it actually

00:36:49.240 makes me feel anxious because i have been there for the last i think six months and i am crawling

00:36:56.980 out of it how through fiction and i've just got fiction um my puppy is calming down so that

00:37:05.960 actually gives me gives me half a minute um the weather has changed and the puppy forces me to go

00:37:13.060 outside yes at 6 30 in the morning so i'm drinking my coffee wrapped in my puffy coat sitting outside

00:37:21.960 drinking coffee uh because i have this puppy who like loves to be outside and actually you know

00:37:27.660 needs to be outside at 6 30 in the morning after a long night in his crate um yeah and

00:37:33.980 friends spending time with friends and talking this conversation i've been looking forward to

00:37:39.880 it so much and each of you said things that helped right like links talking about language

00:37:47.160 made me think of um so the ojibwe word for traditional stories is atasokan and it contains

00:37:54.160 tis which refers to the umbilical cord so our stories are atasokan our traditional stories

00:38:01.380 connect umbilically child to mother to like all the way back to our original mother right so even

00:38:14.120 the name for our stories contains that atasokan and so as links was talking about language i was

00:38:19.260 like yes atasokan our language contains so much about how to live well in this world and so much

00:38:26.120 about you know how how to experience because it's they're processed based languages not thing

00:38:31.980 not noun based language they're process and that's just such a different way of thinking about the

00:38:36.260 world um you know christopher is talking about tarot and um the you know what what did you write

00:38:44.060 down pursuing the path of failure i loved that oh my god that's liberating when i'm thinking about

00:38:50.780 about survival mode um you know it's okay it's okay to screw up those some of the most beautiful

00:38:58.580 things that have happened to me have happened as a result of mistakes that I've made and even the

00:39:03.420 ones that weren't beautiful the mistakes that were terrible and tragic and I wish I could undo them

00:39:09.080 I have learned something as a result I have done something with those things and survival mode

00:39:16.760 calls us to perfection, which is not helpful. And so, Christopher, when you say, you know,

00:39:23.420 when you when you say, and I wrote that down to proving the path of failure, pursuing the path

00:39:28.140 of failure and the distinction between violence and suffering, I loved that too. And then the

00:39:33.180 authentic self. So all of these things are helping me with the anxiety of survival mode, which is the

00:39:39.780 random phrase that you gave me. And all of y'all have given me something because I am kind of

00:39:45.960 trying to come out of this stage that I've been thrust into and you guys have all given me

00:39:52.580 things to hold on to and so yes I appreciate you so much a little water and sunlight to help

00:39:58.700 ease your bloom out of the worm shit and I love I love I love that you you brought up fiction

00:40:07.640 because again it like ties into Lynx's work of reimagining the world like if we can't deal with 0.98

00:40:14.940 the facts right now then let's make something up let's imagine a world imagine let's imagine what

00:40:22.460 could be and then that will give us actually the tools and the notion that maybe this actually

00:40:30.380 could be yes maybe maybe that actually maybe we actually could get here or maybe this is how we

00:40:35.180 work through you know something that we need to work through yeah i always i always underestimate

00:40:40.280 fiction and a lot of the books back here now are like there's increasing amounts of fiction back

00:40:46.080 there yeah links um can you talk to our listeners about survival mode again patty i love that you

00:40:56.720 reminded us that survival mode isn't survival it's like a wearing it's a process of wearing

00:41:02.400 us down to dust so we can survive as dust or links what's the alternative this conversation's

00:41:11.780 healing me too um realizing there's so much resonance between what we're all experiencing

00:41:19.280 even if we hadn't been in touch for some time the words that came to my mind because you're like

00:41:26.180 pick two words I was like fight or flight um and on the physiological level what happens in that

00:41:34.400 and I'll get the terminology wrong because I never did neuroscience stuff I just read lots of books

00:41:39.360 and you know get the gist and you know maybe remember the terminology but um it's certain

00:41:48.980 parts of your your body goes offline when you're in fight or flight when you're in survival mode

00:41:55.400 and the blood stops going to your head and it goes to your limbs because it's preparing you to run

00:42:01.940 away it's preparing you to punch and kick and protect yourself it's protecting you in all of

00:42:09.180 these really brilliant ways um and it's almost like your brain is a computer that has like

00:42:17.920 backup storage or like a backup plan for what you're gonna do in an emergency even if it seems

00:42:25.260 really counterintuitive but the things that do go offline are things like rest and digest

00:42:31.480 you'll have digestive upset these things are not a priority when you're trying to stay safe

00:42:39.860 and I think I really relate to what you're saying about being in survival mode the last six months

00:42:47.280 and what that mode looked like for me was um in some ways hiding and retreating in the sense that

00:42:58.400 um how we come to heal ourselves is coming together in community but when you fail or

00:43:07.160 when you like um that beautiful quote that christopher shared earlier um when you're that 0.98

00:43:15.280 fool or you feel foolish like oh I wish I had done this or maybe I wish this didn't happen or 0.96

00:43:21.480 if I only made this different decision it personally doesn't make me feel proud it makes 0.99

00:43:33.980 me feel shy to reach out to my relationships or like really be in community because I'm feeling

00:43:40.720 lack I'm feeling like I'm not built up and I need things and I don't want people to see me that way

00:43:48.300 and so thinking about how do you sustain yourself in those moments and pretending and faking it till

00:43:56.980 you make it makes me think of manifestation and how if you're doing spell work you end up

00:44:03.660 focusing on the things that you're looking to cultivate and creator or whatever you want to

00:44:13.660 call it only hears the the details and it doesn't really care about I don't want that or I do want

00:44:21.840 that so when you focus on your lack it actually like vibrates that back to you or like perpetuates

00:44:31.760 it in a way so i think there's really major survival strategy in escapism or fantasy because

00:44:43.660 that allows you to envision a certain type of world to manifest in your future to

00:44:53.060 extend and push past the discomfort of having fallen down and going i i might have broken my

00:45:04.580 leg but if i'm gonna survive i'm gonna have to drag this guy behind me and use the one that

00:45:10.080 works to really push myself out of this thing until i have i'm resourced enough to help myself

00:45:17.660 or get that interdependence back from doing what we should be doing,

00:45:23.560 like being back in community or having that visionary sense

00:45:28.140 of that native garden blooming with wildflowers.

00:45:35.820 And I guess this time of year, people are doing controlled burns and wildfires.

00:45:40.380 That was a Freudian slip.

00:45:42.800 But destruction is important as well.

00:45:45.520 and we're the year of the fire horse right now right so i like to think of us as being a herd

00:45:52.080 um in in our circles we've talked about this a lot that we went from the year of the snake which

00:45:57.460 is like a an individual um to the wild horse which is the herd um the others are coming together

00:46:06.740 to put it in gdc's uh um way of thinking but also thank you for this reminder links that like when

00:46:15.000 we feel this fight or flight, this survival mode, this lack, um, that it often makes us not reach

00:46:22.920 out because there's a shame under late stage capitalism that is like associated with this

00:46:28.820 lack. When that is the opposite of what we should be doing. I'm putting my phone number in the chat.

00:46:34.940 I hope to see you writing it down. And I promise you made me think of, you know, Risa has been

00:46:42.160 going through cancer treatment for two years and we had a very you know vulnerable honest

00:46:46.080 conversation where she was telling me like i just and i'm i'm paraphrasing but i just feel like i'm 0.96

00:46:52.540 just a fucking drag to be around and i said counterpoint what if you are so fucking amazing 0.83

00:47:01.580 and fantastic that even at your worst you're still valuable you're still a joy that we still 0.99

00:47:10.460 want to be around you even at your worst so i say unto you links even at your worst i put my phone

00:47:18.080 number in the chat even at your worst please call me christopher i know you have something to say

00:47:24.040 about survival mode i know you do i know you do i just text you right now also so just saying

00:47:30.580 um i certainly i mean i certainly do it's like this is such a rich i like it's good this is such

00:47:36.900 such a rich point i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i have to say i did just get a text from chris and

00:47:42.440 i'm fucking delighted thank you i love technology me too oh my goodness um my goodness i'm loving

00:47:51.240 everything that y'all are saying i mean you know me i i am um very wordy and so i like there is 0.75

00:47:59.700 things going and more things are coming in terms of like my response to survival mode um

00:48:05.440 but I think well first was trauma in the soul you know which I think is what we're obviously

00:48:12.240 naming and then I think about cockroaches I think about also predation to be in survival

00:48:21.300 like and hearing this from links um the and the experience like naming the experience of shame

00:48:29.500 when you when you're gripping you know when you're hanging on to the edge of the ledge

00:48:33.640 is symptomatic of being assaulted you know that is a that is a mode of being victimized

00:48:44.680 right of being abused is that this was like there's this sense of being made passive

00:48:50.620 you know of being put into this state where it's like oh i lost my job no how can you you you didn't

00:48:58.760 know where it went like you can't find it you were there yesterday what do you mean you lost it no

00:49:02.100 someone fired you who fired you you know i mean like who was doing the layoffs like this sense

00:49:05.980 where we the language that we're using obscures the abuse that gets perpetuated and then we

00:49:11.360 internalize it as a justification for why we are struggling that we interpret our failure we

00:49:18.660 interpret our struggle as um symptomatic of our inherent unworthiness by virtue of being 0.94

00:49:25.260 femme indigenous queer fag and on right and so i for me survival mode is also like well who is 0.92

00:49:34.440 who are we prey to who is like where are the predators and obviously that's 0.96

00:49:39.820 an ongoing and relevant conversation in this world um so that is and so then and then of course like

00:49:47.900 the interruption of trauma and how is your like the way that these living and i feel i mean i will

00:49:55.600 say i am the i am a bastard failure child that like my you know i grew up in survival bone my

00:50:03.240 parents had me at 16 you know like i am that's just the context of my birth and i think like

00:50:09.520 if anything you know there is an alchemization and there is like so much um just like I should

00:50:21.280 not be where I'm at you know you know I should not have done or achieved the things that I have

00:50:25.180 achieved like my family should not be in the spaces that it's at and also for the first time

00:50:30.680 I don't exactly feel like I'm in survival mode um in this past couple years which has been great

00:50:36.940 I think that I'm trying to thrive, but I also have people that I'm deeply in community with who are in survival mode, you know, in sitting with them.

00:50:45.140 And like, of course, the larger collective world where there are certain things of just dealing with chronic fatigue and and being porous, you know, in dealing with the world that is surviving.

00:50:56.740 um is a charge to truly be a spiritual warrior and to recognize that there are i'm sorry to keep

00:51:07.300 just heart harping on this but like that there are predators out there that there are people

00:51:11.420 actively see like it's not just like oh i made a wrong step or you know i i i made a typo or

00:51:20.480 something you know what i mean or something like that it's like oh i was um tricked in and i was

00:51:26.980 deceived and then i was taken advantage of i was exploited and these things were um systematically

00:51:33.500 set up for me to be uh in this in this position so for me it's that's always helpful for as you

00:51:42.580 were saying like gdc like also like this like x like expunging these scripts and these modes

00:51:50.000 internalized you know what i mean it's to be able to kind of like name who the violators are to name

00:51:55.360 where the violence the the evil like evil violence honestly is um because yeah because i'm just like

00:52:03.760 uh a taurus rising who wants to moo and eat good food and like nap in the sunlight all day and like 0.74

00:52:11.180 listen to mariah sing you know and and like people are fucking with that and so like what 0.56

00:52:17.820 the hell let's call them out yeah i mean we are a group of you know sweet sensitive beautiful 0.91

00:52:24.880 artistic creative lovely loving people and so oftentimes it's like not surprising but shocking

00:52:34.580 to me that there are people who are want me to fail that there are people in the world who are

00:52:40.780 actively working against other people instead of doing their own thing they're putting their

00:52:45.360 energy into tearing other people down and for us in this room and hopefully in this coven that's

00:52:51.320 such a wild idea like why but it's very very very fucking real gdc how real is survival mode 0.92

00:53:00.340 it was too normalized when when you said i'm gonna go ahead and round rob and you get to 0.73

00:53:12.240 choose two words right i was totally with lakes i was like okay and i was like okay and i said

00:53:17.340 too normalized no no i'm just playing with you amy you know and then my mind of course went straight

00:53:23.420 to amygdala when your amygdala which is that part of your brain that is the eldest part uh and it

00:53:34.900 is sense of survival it is not just fight flight or freeze there is also fawning fawning and and

00:53:43.680 and to call out your predator and not excuse them so i'm like all you know activated because i'm

00:53:53.000 like, you know, a lot of times, just like what you said, Amy, we are like foreign to that. There

00:54:00.040 is a predator and we are like part of this whole group. That's like, oh, it must be my responsibility.

00:54:06.740 Even if it's not, let me see how I can grow. Let me, we take responsibility for ourselves

00:54:11.820 and they keep preying on it. And I hate to be the person. Well, I'm not the person I'm actually,

00:54:17.100 you know just saying it maybe for me you know is there are literally predators out there and if we

00:54:25.620 are so conditioned to take responsibility for you know maybe we need to understand and and maybe I

00:54:33.480 should have while I was doing my shadow work and all of that kind of stuff if the if the sensitives

00:54:40.020 if the spiritual people that have been doing that sit back and feel like oh it wasn't all in my head 0.96

00:54:47.220 that person actually is an asshole well there we go i don't have to fawn anymore i don't have to 0.97

00:54:54.680 pretend that they don't exist or that they might get better because i am horrified so you know 1.00

00:55:05.340 amygdala amygdala and who normalized because to the extent people that there is historical trauma

00:55:17.260 there is dna trauma there's a lot more work going on in the uh psychological community to be

00:55:25.780 or maybe it's always been there and i'm finally doing my my own studying about it but this word

00:55:31.120 fawning that we just oh it's okay it's okay and then this other thing of DNA trauma and I really

00:55:40.820 want to you know just say there is a book called My Grandmother's Hands and it's Risma

00:55:49.060 I can't remember what the last name Minikin thank you spirit or whatever and that will talk to you

00:55:58.060 about the survival mode that maybe you don't understand that you're in because you quantify

00:56:04.760 your life and they told you what it is maybe something is going on in your body that and

00:56:10.960 other people's bodies are traumatizing you and so when we if it's too normalized

00:56:15.840 i have to recognize that in myself how many times i am fawning or giving excuses to well maybe i

00:56:25.440 didn't explain that right maybe that person just is traumatized you know how is this my fault

00:56:31.880 how is their poor treatment of me my fault yeah yes preach you know and that's the whole thing

00:56:39.880 and that's why that i hate to say it that's why that dynamic works is because one person will

00:56:46.360 take full responsibility and the other one will take none and so until the person was complete

00:56:52.120 They kept taking responsibility, kept taking responsibility. When they start going, wait, when is it my turn? And then the other part, the taker is like, you changed, you are a bad person. And it's like, but anyway, when we are moving out of that state, which I am saying could have been through bloodline, when we are moving out of the state, for me, it's a more important question.

00:57:22.120 is how do we normalize not being in survival

00:57:28.680 yeah and for so many like what would that even look like

00:57:36.200 what possibilities would arise from that

00:57:40.280 it's a future that we can imagine together for sure um i want to go around the circle one more

00:57:48.100 time firstly let me say i have my list here i know last year chris you suggested donating to

00:57:57.380 the coalition to stop violence against native women is there anything you want to add um another

00:58:04.120 organization that you're very into at this time that we can add to our list of suggested uh receivers

00:58:10.320 i'm like all yes all of all of them um all of them that y'all find and you know but um missing

00:58:17.040 and murdered indigenous um people in san diego is like a local one so um that is just always one

00:58:25.540 near and dear um to to my to my heart any any sort of branch locally wherever you may find yourself

00:58:33.460 that is focused on like it was previously mmiw right for like the center on women but it has

00:58:39.440 shifted to to people um and so so yeah that's what i would say i mean i think it obviously builds on

00:58:45.960 this as well like how are you surviving when people are being disappeared right again being

00:58:50.680 preyed upon and just like disappeared um and so one of the indicators is like the red hand

00:58:57.380 print over the mouth over the face right and so for the listeners um that like if you see that

00:59:02.520 image that's a good like sign to go and support that work and how can our listeners support you

00:59:09.240 selfishly just you

00:59:12.000 well

00:59:13.420 it's like

00:59:15.400 tell me about Thresholds, Thresholds is

00:59:17.600 starting soon, right? Yes, Thresholds is starting

00:59:19.780 soon, thank you, which is

00:59:21.760 a foundational

00:59:23.360 tarot course that pairs along with my

00:59:25.660 book, Red Tarot, A Decolonial Guide

00:59:27.700 to Divinatory Literacy, and so

00:59:29.680 it's very comprehensive and it is just

00:59:31.600 my cast iron skillet

00:59:33.200 where we talk about the ethics of being

00:59:35.860 a diviner, it is

00:59:37.800 like you'll learn tarot um but i also gear that course to having a client practice and like

00:59:44.100 trying to read for others and that's what i think the cards want to be between people you know and

00:59:50.620 even if you're not like a professional but reading for your friends reading for your family they they

00:59:55.460 are your clients reading for whomst ever um and of course just the newsletter just join me on the

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01:00:11.280 links l-i-n-k-s now links l-y-n-x last year you hyped the sierra club protecting lakes from a

01:00:22.960 devastating oil spill and support Anishinaabe nations um I imagine that that still works but

01:00:32.580 is there anything new anybody else you want to spotlight there's really so many I think 1.00

01:00:39.840 redistributing should just continue and continue but what comes to mind is we matter campaign

01:00:48.960 They're an Indigenous-led organization in Turtle Island that focuses on youth mental wellness through role model ambassadors.

01:01:03.320 So having people below the age of 30 representing resilience through just existing, not really needing to, you know, be more than just deserving,

01:01:19.660 but um actually seeing yourself represented in media around you see yourself um reflected

01:01:28.680 in others instead of isolated is one of those key ways to uh challenge feelings of mental illness

01:01:39.700 suicide um and that's the reality of what the world is trying to do to us it's trying to

01:01:49.960 you know make us not hear there are predators as has been mentioned so that's what was on my mind

01:01:58.440 yeah and is there any way i feel like you're not selling anything right now which is fine and great

01:02:03.860 but is is there any way that our listeners can support you personally i know you just made a

01:02:08.820 big move so maybe you need some uh some support for that yeah I keep uh I keep doing

01:02:17.760 I keep giving my energy um but I'm thinking of doing prints I've been making and making and

01:02:28.660 making but not um creating products because sometimes those stories feel so sacred but

01:02:34.960 i have um i have some prints i'm gonna make so i feel really hopeful that they'll look

01:02:43.620 they'll look nice when they exist in the physical instead of the digital yes i i have an empty spot

01:02:51.140 on my witch art wall that i was like i'm not gonna fill this spot because soon something will

01:02:57.160 come and then and now i know i can't wait to buy buy a print of your work links patty

01:03:03.720 so of course payyourrent.ca do you want to talk to us a little bit about payyourrent.ca

01:03:10.000 yeah so that's a foundation that i started a few years ago with a couple of friends and we

01:03:16.620 basically encourage settlers to pay their rent and they donate money to us and then we donate it to

01:03:24.460 indigenous people we support we support people's material needs like literally paying their rent

01:03:30.840 um helping them get housed stay housed cell phone bills get stuff out of storage like a lot of the

01:03:37.380 falling through the cracks kind of stuff that other organizations don't have the mandate for

01:03:42.540 we'll say sure we'll pay for that we'll help that if we if we have the money we'll give it we'll

01:03:46.760 give it away um but we also support organizers who are building communities because if you you

01:03:54.840 also have to work against the reasons for why people need that money right so we support

01:03:59.840 organizers as well as meeting people's material needs um yeah so that's uh payyourrent.ca um

01:04:07.340 and then if people want to support me they can subscribe to my blog uh thousandworlds.ca

01:04:13.660 um which is part of that midwifing new worlds and and right now i'm working and the reason

01:04:19.660 uh christopher that i um immediately glommed onto your book and ordered that is i i try to create

01:04:26.880 i'm really not very good at creating content specific for paid subscribers i'm working

01:04:32.020 through anishinaabe stories right now that's kind of what i'm putting out uh every you know every

01:04:36.420 i try every week or so um working through these stories that were actually documented in 1912

01:04:42.400 which is really cool um because they haven't evolved they've been like trapped in amber

01:04:47.080 um so they're really kind of cool um but for paid subscribers we're now doing tarot time

01:04:55.160 where I just let's just pull some cards let's see what and I'm almost more like I guess a writing

01:05:02.120 prompt with some influence from spirit you know so yeah so people could also ask me questions

01:05:08.480 um and then like pick the deck that I'm using that they want me to use and then it would be

01:05:14.520 like I said a writing prompt it's not a it's not a reading um because a reading is a conversation

01:05:19.620 between me and that person what they see in the cards what I see you know it's it's and

01:05:24.840 that's not what would be happening um in the paid content so it's more of a writing prompt you ask

01:05:30.460 a question let's see what story the cards tell and then take what you need from that um so yeah

01:05:36.340 so that was why you know yay more tarot resources you are going to love red tarot it's exactly that

01:05:46.540 before we officially started rolling this tape listeners we were talking about encountering very

01:05:52.140 dense material and academic material that's like wonderful and you're amazed but you're kind of

01:05:58.260 like oh this is a slog Christopher somehow has taken everything that you need to know from the

01:06:05.620 academy and put it through this like beautiful kaleidoscopic prismatic lens that makes it so

01:06:12.380 legible and so um what's the word that I'm looking for like I can eat it I can eat it

01:06:21.260 you know and i don't have to chew it and chew it and chew it i can just eat it and enjoy it and i

01:06:26.780 feel full and like i love you so much thank you i actually also i i know lane smith i think has

01:06:36.200 talked with you before right yeah i have their book uh 78 acts of liberation which which is

01:06:42.500 another tarot book that i really enjoy their take on it yes and of course i'm holding in my hand

01:06:48.940 bad indians book club and becoming kin so that's another way that listeners you can support patty

01:06:55.320 and patty's work fantastic favorite independent bookstore yes get them from your favorite

01:07:02.120 independent bookstore jeff bezos doesn't need to go to the moon and back no or go to the moon and

01:07:08.320 don't come back yeah don't come back just go to mars go to mars yeah go to mars you know judy

01:07:14.920 judy gray and um judy grawn judy grawn told me when we spoke she was like this is an earth 0.99

01:07:20.480 centered movement go to mars fuck off to mars we don't need you we don't want you go 0.99

01:07:25.000 gdc i know every year when i ask you this question you give me the answer that i love 1.00

01:07:32.720 which is you tell people go into your local community don't listen to what gdc says go

01:07:41.640 and find it for yourself go and see for yourself and that's so much a part of what the missing

01:07:49.060 witches reparations fundraiser is about of course we talk a lot about the native women's shelter of

01:07:55.160 montreal and that that's where our resources go but we want you to look at the map nativelands.ca

01:08:03.920 and you can find out what First Nations were on the land that you're standing on before you stood

01:08:12.260 here. Reach out to your community. Find out the amazing work. We've heard so many great stories

01:08:19.000 about people reaching out to their local community and finding something that they didn't know

01:08:24.460 existed, that was super resonant with what they were doing in their own lives, and then just this

01:08:30.820 like expansion that's what we're looking for so we know gdc says go out into your community use

01:08:40.100 your senses taste the air and touch and see what is going on so i'm gonna give you this moment

01:08:48.460 to plug the newest book please plug plug plug plug plug plug it's wonderful thank you oh my

01:08:58.740 goodness yes i my future my current self stands in solidarity with my past self that said that

01:09:06.380 absolutely um hey guys i got a new book coming out it's called hochon right it's called hochon

01:09:14.880 and if you are like wait what's she saying this is going to be difficult yeah it is a navajo word

01:09:20.580 and it is encouraging you to like go hochon and reach out there it's a little scary but it

01:09:28.540 is a Navajo Nation medicine woman's exploration of the four bodies of existence for balance

01:09:34.960 and self-reclamation. It is North Atlantic Books, is the my publishing house. The beauty of this

01:09:47.160 is that we often look outside of ourselves for counsel, which I think is extremely healthy.

01:09:55.640 but we also need to look inside of ourself to our birthright of the council that was given to us

01:10:04.520 and that is the four bodies of existence your physical body your emotional body your mental

01:10:11.480 body your spiritual body calling them bodies helps us to understand articulate wrap some

01:10:18.960 feelings around a little more texture around it's not something that i own it is something that i

01:10:24.520 need to feed that I need to take care of and exercise and then it also once you are able to

01:10:32.600 listen to all of those four bodies as your internal counsel the book helps to walk through

01:10:39.420 what is that internal narrative that's been playing can you identify it and I help people

01:10:45.680 to do that and then all of a sudden now do you still like that narrative that you are living

01:10:52.560 or do you want to adjust it to live a more powerful life on purpose um this book has a life

01:11:01.280 of its own and man i'm i'm beside myself with it it's it's it's absolutely uh self-reclamation

01:11:13.160 i tell a lot of stories so basically the setup is you do hear about the philosophical

01:11:19.420 way that I'm expressing the four bodies of existence. And I explain that explaining the

01:11:25.580 sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system and going into the gut system and going into your

01:11:30.860 emotional intelligence and all of that. And then we go into, you know, a little bit more of, you

01:11:37.680 know, okay, what is granddaughter Crow's story here? Can she show us an example of how she moved

01:11:43.320 through not just the philosophy not just the grounded scientific uh analysis of it but the

01:11:52.260 embodied lived experience and so i walk with you through the book and i absolutely love it

01:12:01.220 love it love it and i appreciate you letting me share it because yeah hoshone in the navajo

01:12:08.680 is a word that i think it's most aptly translated into english language meaning harmony

01:12:17.920 and so when people start going oh well hochon means harmony so i'm just going to

01:12:24.140 no you can't those are those are not interchangeably they are like if you were to say

01:12:31.320 zen means peace hochon means harmony it's something that is embodied shout out to

01:12:40.120 uh my dad reverend jackson yazzi born 1932 passed the physical body in 2023 dedicated this book to

01:12:52.280 you dad and decided to publish it after you passed so you wouldn't have to defend what your little

01:12:57.540 girl is saying okay so because i got a little bit i mean he agreed he went into the not he was taken

01:13:08.000 out of the hogan and put into boarding schools and he has had to come to terms with that in his

01:13:14.660 own lifetime his little girl joy joy me is a little bit more feisty about that i do not feel

01:13:21.500 like being adaptable i do not feel like that that program is good and so i'm i'm kind of

01:13:27.800 making a stance so yeah yeah oh sean definitely can go into the bad indians book club

01:13:34.960 it's definitely a bad indians book so let me say one more time and y'all get ready because this may

01:13:45.340 and hopefully many mays in the future and five mays in the past you are going to hear this again

01:13:51.260 And again, make your reparation of $10 or more to any local Indigenous-led support organization or to the Native Women's Shelter of Montreal or payyourrent.ca or, or, or, or, or take a screenshot of your receipt and email it to witchreparations at gmail.com.

01:14:15.260 For every $10, you'll get one entry in our draw for this year, sixth year, over $6,000 worth of prizes.

01:14:25.600 Amazing stuff.

01:14:27.440 And also, everyone who makes any kind of donation is going to get discount codes for Housewitch in Salem, Madam Phoenix in Toronto,

01:14:37.500 and to order your very own copy of Hosha by Granddaughter Crow from North Atlantic Books.

01:14:44.240 And while you're shopping on the North Atlantic Books website, you might as well pick up Red Tarot, right?

01:14:50.480 Thank you all so much, Lynx, Chris, GDC, Patty.

01:14:58.500 I learned when I was doing some research for my kinship episode on rats that there was a man who studied rats by drowning them

01:15:06.280 and found that, the rats who had been rescued once and had that memory were able to continue

01:15:15.440 swimming for 60 additional hours. So let me remind you that hope is not just a fantasy,

01:15:24.340 it is a survival mechanism. And whether your hope is an invention or something that you found in

01:15:34.140 the material world it can help us keep swimming let's all keep swimming together in this horde 0.99

01:15:42.180 of others let's create a wave of care let's make a reparation for the past and fund a fucking 0.98

01:15:52.160 revolution for the future blessed fucking be thank you links thank you patty thank you chris 0.95

01:15:59.040 thank you GDC I love you all so much and it's I have hope I have more hope than I had this morning 0.92

01:16:07.660 thank you all love you so much thank you thank you so much for having me back and I just love

01:16:14.780 these conversations I love community and guys this is what community looks like go out

01:16:22.140 find your own community it's right here it's right here i love you guys 0.93

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Missing Witches - May 01, 2026

Beltane 2026： Midwives To New Worlds - MWRF 2026 Part 1

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