Missing Witches - Na'kuset, Truth-Telling, and the Work of Witness - Let's Have Sacred Fires Everywhere

00:00:00.000 Hi, it's Risa from Missing Witches.

00:00:03.680 We've begun our annual reparations fundraiser supporting Indigenous-led organizations,

00:00:08.600 and I hope you've had a chance to check out the absolutely wildly incredible list of prizes and offerings this year.

00:00:15.680 With this episode, I wanted to introduce you to one of the people behind the organization we choose to support each year,

00:00:21.740 Maguset, Executive Director of the Native Women's Shelter of Montreal.

00:00:25.340 and in particular the powerful journey she and so many others are undertaking right now

00:00:30.960 to bring truth-telling and reckoning to the eyes of the world.

00:00:35.440 Nagusette is helping to bring a case before the Permanent People's Tribunal

00:00:38.540 to indict Canada for genocide and crimes against humanity 0.86

00:00:44.060 for the residential school system, forced sterilizations,

00:00:47.560 and the many ongoing violences committed against Indigenous peoples by the Canadian state.

00:00:52.360 In this conversation, she speaks about searching for a place where these truths, the 700 pages of evidence, can finally be heard clearly about the labor of carrying testimony and about the call to gather witnesses across borders and communities.

00:01:09.400 If you are moved by Naguset's monumental labor of love, please consider donating directly to the Native Women's Shelter of Montreal.

00:01:19.380 And send us your receipt to witchreparations at gmail.com to be entered in the draw for prizes.

00:01:27.340 And join us in lighting sacred fires.

00:01:30.500 And join us in sharing this story.

00:01:33.900 Help hold this container for Naguset and help draw more eyes to bear witness.

00:01:39.400 Thanks for listening.

00:01:41.720 Buss it for King B. 1.00

00:01:42.820 You aren't being a proper woman, therefore you must be a witch. 1.00

00:01:47.680 You must be a witch. 1.00

00:01:52.200 I'm so thrilled to meet you.

00:01:54.280 I'm always a bit nervous, but Missing Witches, myself, my best friend Amy,

00:01:58.000 we have been in the audience at your rallies.

00:02:01.500 We've walked the annual spirit walk.

00:02:04.340 We've been fundraising for a couple of years.

00:02:06.600 in the background cheering watching you on stage so it's really great to meet you often in our

00:02:14.380 podcast we start by asking folks to introduce themselves as you are today with the sort of

00:02:22.120 alan watts caveat that you're not obliged to be the person you were five minutes ago

00:02:26.880 just exactly who you are right now and welcome am i right now i'm a bundle of nerves

00:02:34.500 but i have my secret goat oh good what does the goat do

00:02:40.740 it's great though yes i'll bring him to the ppt so that is what we do all day long every time we

00:02:50.160 try to move forward and then we have to take you know a step back and then yeah move forward again

00:02:56.640 so the goat is very helpful is it helpful because it screams yes okay i don't have to

00:03:04.080 for me. People say, how are you? And I just, you know, just screaming. And yeah, and it makes

00:03:13.300 people laugh. So you have to laugh sometimes because it's overwhelming the amount of work

00:03:17.500 that we do. I mean, I run a shelter. And, you know, it's a large organization with so many

00:03:23.760 projects, plus resilience Montreal, plus we're doing renovations here, and the PPT.

00:03:30.340 so let's just do an international tribunal yeah down from rome and look at you know evidence on

00:03:39.660 crimes against humanity and genocide i mean this is what i want to know about first and foremost

00:03:44.600 is the permanent people's tribunal what does this act of memory mean how does it change things

00:03:53.180 what is it like for you to carry that forward? How did it start?

00:03:58.880 Well, how it started, you know, as an Indigenous person, my mother went to residential school,

00:04:03.420 right? And because of that, I was adopted through the 60s scoop. So I didn't really get to know my

00:04:08.360 mother very well, but residential school destroyed her. And she had a whole bunch of kids. She had 0.99

00:04:16.520 like seven children and all of us were placed in foster homes or, you know, I was the only one who

00:04:22.440 was adopted out and upon meeting my mom she didn't want to talk about residential school right so you

00:04:28.220 lose this whole like culture and you know it's almost like a legacy of pain and I know when the 0.98

00:04:37.320 TRCs were here in Montreal I went and I brought my my child who was I don't know about five or six

00:04:43.800 and it is common knowledge about the mass graves right however when Kamloops had their discovery 1.00

00:04:54.160 that they shared with everyone there was an outcry and it is devastating but a lot of indigenous

00:05:02.140 people are like we've been telling you did you read the DRCs we have been telling you

00:05:07.900 And then a month later, it happened again in Saskatchewan, right? And I'm from Saskatchewan. So how does that affect me, knowing that, you know, these could be my relatives, right?

00:05:24.360 so i think that um the filmmaker alethea arnak barrell who has done a whole bunch of documentaries

00:05:34.980 plus now she's working on that cbc of the north i think it's called like television series so

00:05:42.320 she said during the announcements right she's like when do we get our own nuremberg trial

00:05:48.560 I was like oh that's genius I love that yes so since then I've been trying to figure out how do

00:05:55.200 we get our own nerve root trial and I went to like the Jewish community and I spoke to them 0.99

00:05:59.500 how did you do it do you know of someone and like the conversations had some interest but nothing

00:06:06.660 actually happened and sometimes I go and I speak at different synagogues right as a Jewish Indian

00:06:14.260 you know at synagogues and I asked them are there any lawyers here that can help me just

00:06:19.900 make me like a roadmap I'll do the work just somebody tell me how to do this because I feel

00:06:25.640 like we need that we need to have some kind of accountability anyway years go by and I was

00:06:31.880 invited to Amnesty International during the COP 15 and the woman who was running Amnesty who was

00:06:38.280 based in Paris, came to Montreal, met with me. And I think Melissa Mullen-Dupri was there and

00:06:43.800 Ellen Gabriel. And she's asking different questions because she was going to speak.

00:06:48.020 She was going to bring up Indigenous issues when she went to the COP15. So she was pulling us for

00:06:52.780 ideas. And when she got to me, I was like, why don't you help me? I'm like, what is the closest

00:06:59.960 thing that we can get to a Nuremberg trial? And she's like a permanent people's tribunal and

00:07:06.140 they're based in Rome. I'm like, great, let's do it. Let's do that. And I remember, you know,

00:07:12.520 like Melissa Mullen Dupree was there and she said, but now, aren't you tired? Yeah, I'm exhausted.

00:07:20.080 But if we don't do it, who's going to do it? We're all tired. We all, you know, so we got to find a

00:07:26.260 way. And the first thing that we needed to do was send an email for a conversation with the

00:07:32.920 Permanent People's Tribunal, who are based in Rome. And we met with them. And we explained,

00:07:40.240 you know, that we feel like, you know, the Canadian government has committed crimes against

00:07:43.960 humanity and genocide against indigenous people. And they're like, Yeah, we agree. So come on down.

00:07:53.400 And that was, like, over two years ago, like, it's a really long process to get this going.

00:08:00.040 so we had many conversations with the ppt we had to do our research so i reached out to another

00:08:06.820 person named jasmine who's a lawyer who did a ppt on murder journalists a couple of years ago

00:08:13.660 and she was so helpful like she gave me so much information we had many conversations with her

00:08:20.560 like you know like how did it help you which we look out for like how does it work so we started

00:08:27.660 to, you know, collect information. And then I started to get funding for it because I needed

00:08:32.600 to build a team. So I'm not a lawyer, right? So back in the day, I was a witness, I don't know,

00:08:41.140 they asked me to testify at Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women's Inquiry in Calgary. And my

00:08:47.000 lawyer was Krista Bikunu. So I testified for a couple of days. And she sat right next to me and

00:08:53.740 she had to meet with me and talk and sort of find out what it is the content that I was going to be

00:08:59.180 sharing so I thought of her and it's funny because I called a whole bunch of different

00:09:04.720 lawyers and they're like ah no screaming goat they're like wow wow no so and the same thing

00:09:14.180 for funding you know who's gonna fund you right so I reached up to Krista I'm like remember me

00:09:19.880 she's like yes and i told her what i was doing and i'm like you know would you be interested in 0.98

00:09:26.100 in prosecuting and she was like i will so that was huge because her whole organization aboriginal

00:09:34.060 legal services is doing this and krista is right so she was able to find five other indigenous

00:09:43.480 lawyers across Canada to help her write the indictment and in Montreal we also had a team

00:09:52.040 with Eloise who is one of our lawyers who's an international human rights lawyer and she works

00:09:59.120 or at the time she worked at UCAM and Eric Sullivan who works at the University of Laval

00:10:04.880 and he's already done a PPT because there have been two in Canada so he did one I'm like yes

00:10:10.520 Let's go with people who know what they're doing, because I don't know what I'm doing.

00:10:13.800 So bring in the lawyers.

00:10:15.900 So we would have meetings regularly and start discussing what does it look like.

00:10:20.680 So we needed the Indigenous lawyers to talk to the international human rights lawyers to make sure that the formatting of the indictment works.

00:10:29.020 So the thing is that with the Permanent People's Tribunal, they have six different types of crimes.

00:10:35.720 So one is crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, ecological crimes, economic crimes, and systemic crimes.

00:10:45.380 So we looked at this list, and it felt like we could fit into so many.

00:10:50.920 But at the end of the day, the lawyers decided we would go with crimes of genocide and crimes against humanity.

00:10:56.860 Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part a selected group on a discriminatory criteria, such as killing members of the group, causing bodily causing serious bodily or mental harm to a member of the group, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

00:11:26.160 imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group and forcibly transferring

00:11:32.540 children of the group to another group. So this is why we're going with genocide. 0.83

00:11:38.240 When we do crimes against humanity are those crimes whose gravity implies a direct attack

00:11:43.620 against humanity. Crimes against humanity means any of the following when committed as a part of

00:11:49.000 a widespread or systemic attack directed at any civilian population. So it includes murder,

00:11:56.160 extermination, enslavement, deportation or forcible transfer of population,

00:12:03.520 imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental

00:12:09.220 rules of international law, torture, rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution,

00:12:16.040 forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization or any other form of sexual violence of comparable

00:12:21.740 gravity. Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity grounded on discriminatory

00:12:29.020 reasons enforce disappearances of persons and the crime of heart attack. So for the last two years,

00:12:37.460 we have pulled in over 2000 pieces of evidence and we're working with an organization called

00:12:43.600 No History. No History was recommended to us by Kimberly Murray, who used to be the

00:12:50.520 a special interlocutor on missing children in mass graves. So all the team has been working

00:12:58.620 with Know History, getting all these different sort of, we call them tabs, because there's so

00:13:05.120 many, and getting information so that we can present this to the judges. And, you know, it's

00:13:11.440 something like 750 pages that were sent to the judges and to the PPT, so they can start looking

00:13:18.080 through it however when they come down to montreal how we're going to be displaying

00:13:25.140 or or sharing information is by having different panels like if i don't think the actual schedule

00:13:34.060 is online yet i think it's going to happen this week there's so much to talk about i'm sorry

00:13:39.700 so i'm in the process of trying to get a permit right now

00:13:42.860 for a sacred fire i got the whole team together but what a funny ironic thing to have to get a

00:13:50.160 permit for a sacred fire either way we're gonna do it right yeah but you still have to sort of

00:13:58.620 follow the rules so we'll open with that and then what was really great was that jeremy dutcher he

00:14:04.100 did a fundraiser for us yeah and he will open for the ppt so we'll start with the sacred fire with

00:14:10.860 kevin deer you know giving the prayers and then it will be maybe like a six minute walk uh back

00:14:17.440 to daphne art center and uh that's where we're going to hold the proceedings most of the time

00:14:23.320 it's held in a court and i don't like the look i don't want to be in a court like it's so

00:14:28.300 institutional daphne art center is an indigenous art gallery that is beautiful and they agreed like

00:14:37.800 it's lovely to talk to people and they're like yes I'll do it like Jeremy yes he'll do it

00:14:44.280 same thing with Aboriginal Legal Services so that's really helpful because you know I need

00:14:50.240 as many people to help me right and the way that we want to do this is I want the space to feel

00:14:58.480 comfortable and it's a beautiful location we can't physically put everyone in the space

00:15:04.640 so we are live streaming it and the Europeans are really interested in what we're doing it'll be

00:15:11.360 across Canada and then it will also be each day will be saved and eventually it will put it on a

00:15:17.000 platform so people can watch it if they don't have a chance to but in a way we are like you know

00:15:21.900 creating history like recreating history it's really really difficult because um like we fight

00:15:29.340 all the time with the government. And we have like a really great way of presenting evidence

00:15:36.600 with people who are knowledgeable. We are only presenting evidence that has already been

00:15:44.880 substantiated. There are times when people are saying we think that there may be a mass grave

00:15:50.180 here or there. We're not bringing that into the deliberations. We have to go with the facts.

00:15:56.200 Jeremy is going to open and then the PPT is going to do their own speech.

00:16:02.120 And then they're going to read the indictment.

00:16:03.780 So we served Canada about two weeks ago.

00:16:06.740 Oh, my God.

00:16:07.900 Anyway, yes, we served.

00:16:10.620 It went to, you know, the prime minister and also to the justice minister, Sean Frazier.

00:16:18.560 So they've received it.

00:16:19.520 We have not received any acknowledgement.

00:16:22.540 Right.

00:16:22.900 But I think they have to sign for it.

00:16:24.920 So they received it. And there will be a place for them if they are wanting to, you know, show up, show up, defend themselves, whatever.

00:16:35.760 There's a table for them. But we'll have a table for the judges, a table for the prosecution on the side.

00:16:43.000 But where the judges are sitting, I mean, Daphne has these beautiful gray walls and they already have blankets on some of them.

00:16:49.180 But we're going to put children's moccasins all along the back.

00:16:52.500 So as soon as the judges walk in and they see it,

00:16:55.600 then they sit down and it's there.

00:16:57.620 It's, yeah.

00:16:59.560 We'll have a room in the back of Daphne where we'll have an elder.

00:17:03.380 We have a psychologist.

00:17:05.080 We have incredible judges that are coming down.

00:17:08.200 The first day after lunch, we're going to be having Kimberly Murray testifying.

00:17:13.260 On the second day, we're going to have an expert panel.

00:17:17.000 We're having Tanya Talaga and Connie Walker come down.

00:17:20.200 It's huge, right?

00:17:22.120 And then we're also going to have an Indian residential school survivor panel in the afternoon.

00:17:27.400 And then on the third day, we have someone who's going to be speaking about forced and coerced sterilization.

00:17:36.080 Also, we're going to have an expert panel, survivor initiatives and investigations.

00:17:40.720 and the last day we have Annie LaFontaine who is an expert witness and Canada has a time to defend

00:17:50.600 themselves if they show up I'm sorry what could they possibly say well because you know I don't

00:17:58.800 want to tell you what Canada could say but they'll be like it wasn't us it was the churches yeah it

00:18:04.160 was a different time we didn't know yeah yeah we had no idea yeah and then you know on the last day

00:18:11.060 we have you know just the prosecution closing and they're going to give a deliberation right

00:18:17.520 they're going to give a short statement of what they've learned during the week and then afterwards

00:18:22.480 they all go back to their countries right because we have one from new zealand we have two from

00:18:27.380 spain one from england one from the states one from like another part of another province of

00:18:32.980 canada and we have ellen gabriel who's local you know they're all going to go back and they have

00:18:37.260 because they have the 750 pages they have time to read everything and then as a group they will

00:18:43.420 come together and make a final deliberation and so the ppt asked us is there a day where that would

00:18:50.980 be is there a day in canada that's special for indigenous people i was like wow june 21st however

00:18:58.160 that's too soon so september 30th so that's when we are going to have an online press conference

00:19:05.100 that is initiated by the ppt in rome and all the other judges will be online and they will give

00:19:11.160 their final judgment and then in the afternoon i do the every child matters march so it'll be a

00:19:18.240 busy day but then we'll see what happens right like we have presented something to the government

00:19:26.320 but not just to the government to canada connie walker is going to be speaking about the fact that

00:19:34.200 the indian residential school experience how people went to residential school sat down

00:19:40.420 talked to the government they took their stories they put them in boxes they're going to burn all

00:19:47.300 those boxes next year everyone people don't know this right so when connie talks about it this

00:19:56.180 could be a recommendation that the judges say right this could be like I find that you know

00:20:02.820 being a Jewish Indian and all and seeing how the Jewish community was able to encourage Germany to

00:20:11.100 do more by having different plaques on houses saying Jewish family lived here but they were

00:20:16.180 taken to Auschwitz or you know a train like in a museum that said this train cart held Jewish

00:20:23.120 people being brought to concentration camps. We don't have that in Canada. Why don't we have like

00:20:28.640 CN or Via Rail? How many trains did you transport? Like, why aren't we doing this? Why don't we have

00:20:36.260 our own museums, right? The government cut the funding for ground penetration radar searches,

00:20:43.720 cut the funding. Why? Right? Maybe this is a recommendation that the judges could make.

00:20:50.360 you know they just cut the funding for mmiw why 231 calls to justice and you've done two

00:20:58.700 and what you're good now you know same thing with the trcs they accomplished 15 well we're tired

00:21:05.760 we reconcile too much yeah seriously so this is a way to fight back yeah to encourage change and

00:21:15.460 you know when i was in my 20s i knew mary two acts early because i was dating her grandson

00:21:22.820 and uh she told me about all the work that she did to change the law bill c31 because she married

00:21:29.200 a uh irish guy white guy and she left the reservation she went to new york and you know

00:21:36.260 she just lived there for years and then when he passed away she tried to come back to gunawagi

00:21:40.640 and they would not let her in because once you marry out you have to stay out right so she was 0.60

00:21:46.780 like really but because the native men were marrying white women and white women were

00:21:51.160 coming on to the reservation and they got their indian status and then their white children got

00:21:55.860 their indian status and the women no so she fought for like 10 years 20 years i don't know she fought

00:22:02.700 a really long time. And Canada ignored her until she went to the UN. So I'm like, I know what to 0.99

00:22:11.480 do. We call in the Europeans, we bring them down, we show them. It all reverberates, right? Because 1.00

00:22:19.060 you know, the judge that is coming from New Zealand, you know, she's talking to her community.

00:22:24.500 I'm going to Canada, right? And the ones from Spain, like everyone has really amazing, qualified

00:22:32.320 backgrounds these are people that that know a lot about the subject of crimes against humanity and

00:22:38.140 genocide but then there's also the aftermath right so let's say they give a judgment and they say

00:22:46.320 Canada you're guilty and then what do we do we already know they're guilty but what do we do as

00:22:52.180 a as a community like where do we how do we move forward from this because even sometimes when you

00:22:58.660 get a guilty it doesn't make you feel better what does it mean as an indigenous person moving

00:23:04.580 forward so after the announcement on september 30th we are doing a gathering in six nations so

00:23:13.380 it's a healing gathering and it's called stories of recovery it'll be held at the chiefswoods park

00:23:20.980 i have an elders committee and i have a survivors committee and for the last two and a half years

00:23:25.840 they have guided us in the decision making processes for this ppt i meet them regularly

00:23:31.460 they asked for this okay so i'm like okay i'll do it i got some monies and they decided that this

00:23:38.820 is where they want it but i'm now i have to fundraise for additional monies because the ppt

00:23:46.360 is more expensive almost every day right and i have to find additional funding just for this

00:23:56.300 because it's what they want and it's what it's what we need we need to to sit down they want

00:24:03.380 something on the land where they can do ceremony where they can you know talk as a group you know

00:24:08.960 we don't necessarily need microphones it's not going to be huge but there's going to be a lot

00:24:13.380 of healing and laughter and discussions and bring in knowledge keepers and you know and learn i was

00:24:19.740 thinking you know i should bring my uh my 19 year old son because he doesn't know very much about

00:24:25.260 his culture so learn from those right i went to the mccall foundation had a 10 year like anniversary

00:24:33.200 of the trcs and when i was there and the elders were there some were in walkers some had oxygen

00:24:40.540 machines like like this that generation and the teachings that they could give are 0.99

00:24:48.520 it's not looking great like where how do we get that knowledge so it's an opportunity to bring

00:24:54.700 in to teach that next generation and all the groups are so excited right and we're we're also

00:25:01.160 like offering it to like the team so if chris's team wants to go to this because they're the ones

00:25:06.780 who have to listen to all the survivors testimony and it is so painful

00:25:14.420 but we have to do it we have to do it because the status quo is really bad and I feel like

00:25:24.500 the government is just sort of taking big giant steps away from the community and there are so

00:25:30.680 many issues that have not been resolved. I'm tired of being ignored. I do the Every Child

00:25:36.040 Matters march, but it's on September 30th. And for whatever reason, in Montreal, all the schools

00:25:44.140 have their attestation day. So they have to come to school and they're not allowed to leave.

00:25:49.020 Last year, the Quebec government decided they were going to have their first assembly.

00:25:54.620 On September 30th, that means that your politicians can't even come to the march to

00:25:59.500 support so many layers of forgetting so much weight of wanting to not know and wanting to

00:26:07.500 not remember yeah that you're like pushing up against with this massive labor to hold these

00:26:15.220 stories to the light the trauma but also as you say all the knowledge like all the wisdom that

00:26:21.480 the world needs right now before we fall off an environmental cliff we need those elder stories

00:26:30.020 and wisdom so much and so thank you i'm glad you're recording and documenting but i also have

00:26:38.160 to say that you know the david suzuki foundation is also a partner yeah amazing if you look at the

00:26:45.860 website david suzuki actually does a little video where he talks about the ppt i'm like oh my god

00:26:50.900 damn it's okay i'm like wow that's okay there's wonderful massive waves of people coming to be

00:26:58.280 with you and we need more though because we need more then the native women shelter will have a 0.98

00:27:04.600 sacred fire and then one of our elders diane longboat she'll be doing a sacred fire in her

00:27:10.520 community and then wasaskin house is also going to have a sacred fire and we like let's have

00:27:15.740 sacred fires everywhere like all across canada if you are able and in a safe way to have a sacred

00:27:22.300 fire we're starting it on september 25th and we'll put it out on the 29th and the the guys are there

00:27:28.860 24 hours like they'll always be there if we could do that everywhere that would be amazing there's

00:27:34.980 an image of a residential school in the evening where they have these lights that are representing

00:27:42.580 the mass graves when it's all lit up well if we took a picture of canada and had all those sacred

00:27:47.460 fires that would be something right and i think people want to contribute and that is a safe way

00:27:52.860 to contribute and that's a spiritual way to contribute and i would love to have like people

00:27:58.540 of influence say something about the ppt like a 30 second segment to be like you know did you

00:28:05.640 know about the ppt it's happening may 25th to 29th the world is watching will you i just i'm

00:28:12.400 trying so hard to put this out, but I can't do everything. That's why I'm, I really appreciate

00:28:17.200 the communications team. And, and if, you know, if, if Jeremy Dutcher is interested in doing

00:28:22.580 another one, if, you know, people I'm trying to get like, you know, different superstars that I

00:28:28.120 work with sometimes, you know, that I meet in my life to be like, Hey, can you do me a little

00:28:33.320 favor? Use your influence. I don't know why I feel very shy about all this. I know. I know. I want to

00:28:38.920 say like you don't need i mean everyone like it's an honor i think um when we frame our annual

00:28:47.000 fundraiser with missing witches as a an act of togetherness against the original wound of

00:28:53.940 colonial violence like let's go let's do it together donate your prize send money to your

00:28:59.060 local indigenous native women shelter let's do it together instead of feeling so broken 0.95

00:29:03.620 it's a gift I think to say it's not all fucked and it's not all done it's not all over here we're 0.62

00:29:12.520 here we're together try it while we're alive yeah I feel like we only have one chance to do this and 0.95

00:29:18.060 we have to knock it out of the ballpark and I remember telling that to the lawyers I'm like

00:29:22.420 it's got to be perfect no pressure we've got to prosecute the entire state yeah yeah and they

00:29:29.000 have there is so much evidence what happens if the state is found guilty by the judges well

00:29:35.420 there is the possibility for the international criminal court to step in so when they're

00:29:42.840 watching and they see a piece of evidence or whatever hey i didn't know about that wait a

00:29:48.120 minute you can go after these people this institution or whatever there's that it's

00:29:54.620 international. And what's really like awesome was that the lawyers plus the survivors and the

00:30:01.320 elders and anyone who was part of the committee wrote a five page document of outcomes. This is

00:30:09.880 what the government can do to make amends. When we talk about reconciliation, you get a failure

00:30:14.500 for the last 10 years. This is what you can do to push forward. So the government's going to have a

00:30:19.580 lot of concrete things. This is what you do now. Yes. Well, I mean, you've got to try and that's

00:30:26.780 what we're doing. We're trying and who knows who will motivate and, and inspire like in the,

00:30:33.200 in the spirit of, I don't know more. I'm not a lawyer. I only have a VA, not a genius, but

00:30:42.620 if it's possible, someone's got to do it. So how do we do it? We're going to have a day of

00:30:49.340 judgments and bringing in all these international judges it's it's amazing it's yeah i'm a little

00:30:54.680 intimidated they're going to be intimidated to meet you everything you've carried and championed

00:31:00.660 thank you for so much time and for sharing the labor and also the hope with us and um yeah thank

00:31:11.940 you for everything and we will we'll be there we'll amplify it yeah i appreciate that i really

00:31:18.680 appreciate that i need all the help i can get thank you so much for being here and thank you

00:31:23.300 for that image of the fires across canada i know i've heard you and elders at the walk before talk

00:31:30.720 about every little orange shirt is a flame is a somebody remembered as a child remembered

00:31:36.480 and so may we continue to light those candles hold those children tell the truth the truth is

00:31:44.120 painful but we have to tell it so that we can burst out of this weight of post-colonial gloom 0.98

00:31:52.280 and have a little bit of growth and tomorrow so we got to tell the fucking truth so thank you for 0.96

00:31:56.500 doing that thank you huge love all right 0.93

Missing Witches - May 07, 2026

Na'kuset, Truth-Telling, and the Work of Witness - Let's Have Sacred Fires Everywhere

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