00:17:42.080Even Wicca itself in the neo-pagan renaissance is largely credited to a man, Gerald Gardner.
00:17:47.800You heard about him in our Dorian Valiente episode.
00:17:50.100And elsewhere, there are weird, ugly stories about unsettling, hierarchical, dogmatic, even exploitive New Age covens where ideas like sexual freedom were used to manipulate and abuse rather than to heal.
00:18:03.160Janet L. Jacobs did a study she named The Effects of Ritual Healing on Female Victims of Abuse, a Study of Empowerment and Transformation.
00:23:40.380Things came to a head for Zee at a public pagan conference, Pantheocon, in 2011,
00:23:46.180when Zee held a ritual for cis women only.
00:23:49.440Pagan writer Peter Dybing led a protest of Zee's comments and later wrote,
00:23:53.420It is time for compassion in this discussion.
00:23:57.200Time for the trans community to sit and listen with open hearts to the pain of women who have suffered abuse at the hands of men.
00:24:04.600Time for the Dianic community to listen with open hearts to the trans community's experience of violence and exclusion.
00:24:12.820I believe all of my sisters have the ability to tap into the energy of the divine and approach these issues with respect, compassion, and the intent to heal.
00:24:23.080there is no one singular shared experience of being a woman it is different for every one
00:24:32.840we as humans are condemned in a way to live our lives from our own perspective but when we listen
00:24:38.080to other people and look to them for their difference of experience this this is how we
00:24:44.000expand our worldview past the boundaries of our own vision it is astral projection of perception0.97
00:24:50.800Listening to people with differing experiences is fucking magic.0.89
00:24:55.160We can listen and be transported out of our narrow field of view.0.98
00:24:59.840We can connect on what we share and what we don't.
00:25:03.240We can say with eyes wide, I never thought of it that way.
00:25:09.660I was raised in a very gynocentric environment.