00:39:20.080Yoko was suspicious of everyone, but can you blame her?
00:39:24.160However, if Yoko became cold or hard or desperate during that time, it was because multiple tell-all books were being planned by people she had trusted.
00:39:34.940The whole world felt against her, and the death threats and vitriolic telegrams continued to roll in.
00:39:49.900It had been true on one level when my dad was alive, they were followed by the FBI, Nixon was trying to deport them, and their phones were tapped.
00:39:58.260There were screaming fans and weird people writing them disturbing letters, and then my dad was killed by a fan.
00:40:06.500And it was even more chaotic and scary.
00:40:10.500I do think spirituality was something she clung to because it gave her a sense of control and some power during an overwhelming time.
00:40:18.040It felt like she was dealing with trauma that she couldn't deal with by distracting herself with tarot and psychics
00:44:08.340With a rising, she invited women to speak out about their lives.
00:44:12.620She has collaborated with The Flaming Lips, Cat Power, Peaches, Sonic Youths, Thurston Moore, and Kim Gordon, and many more.
00:44:21.360DJs that remixed her work and brought Yoko to the top of the dance charts, sampled by Wu-Tang's RZA.
00:44:27.760And in a world where kids ask their parents, who's the old guy on stage with Kanye and Rihanna at the Grammys, the old guy being Paul McCartney, Yoko has remained forever and always Yoko Ono, creeping her way slowly out from under the Beatles' shadow and into the light of her own legacy.
00:44:52.860And in time, the chorus will change from Yoko Broke Up the Beatles to, as one t-shirt maker's creation states, John Lennon Broke Up Fluxus.
00:45:05.160Museums and galleries worldwide unfurl her prolific history in exhibitions that treat her art as living ritual.
00:45:14.360In 2024, she was awarded the Edward McDowell Medal for Lifetime Achievement in the Arts,
00:45:20.440recognizing her influence over many decades. She was never just Mrs. John Lennon.
00:45:28.740She has always been Yoko Ono. On her 80th birthday, the Houston Press ran a piece titled
00:45:36.400Yoko Ono Turns 80. Still weird as hell.
00:45:43.640I recently interviewed Jessica Hundley, you'll hear that interview next week,
00:45:48.120and knowing that Jess once interviewed Yoko herself, I asked her for her thoughts.
00:45:54.740I was lucky enough to interview her and one of the things she said, which I always go back to
00:46:03.460and I feel like is so important, especially for younger people, I think, to understand is I asked
00:46:11.760I said, you know, you were sort of at this moment of revolution and change and, you know,
00:46:20.820of the 60s moving into a whole new era. And do you think that the world is a better place now
00:46:29.260or then? And without hesitation, she said, the world is by far a better place now. She said,
00:46:38.220you know there were so she said you have to remember there were so few of us that yes our
00:46:44.460voices were loud and in retrospect you think it was this massive movement she said there were so
00:46:50.220few of us and now you have she said you know now you have housewives in iowa doing yoga you have
00:46:58.540you know she's like the the expansion of people taking control of their own
00:47:05.340lives and taking care of themselves through you know all these different practices which were
00:47:16.620considered obscure or weird or they're now universal and we have this tool the internet
00:47:26.980which she uses very very powerfully and wisely um and art and music to be able to express these
00:47:36.440ideas and she was unequivocally you know as hard as it is to kind of see there are more people
00:47:45.400in the world trying to transform it in a positive way than there were in 1968 you know so for her
00:47:58.900that that really someone that wise who's been here that long to say that it's something I always go
00:48:07.620back to and I I myself I just turned 55 and I can tell you unequivocally that the world is a better
00:48:15.060place now than it was when I was a child in the 70s is as as much as we're bombarded by
00:48:21.580the chaos and the sadness and the crisis they're still people in general are kinder more accepting
00:48:31.740more open and more loving than they've ever been in the history of human civilization so I think
00:48:39.300that's something really important to hold on to when you feel overwhelmed and you know again
00:48:45.480bringing it back to yourself how can you be the kindest most open most loving person you can be
00:48:52.160from there it's everything is possible right I'll link to Jess's full interview with Yoko
00:48:59.220in the show notes but in it Yoko said quote it begins on a very day-to-day level of knowing
00:49:06.060yourself. Knowing that you are powerful inside. Power is not something we should be afraid of.
00:49:14.020Power is great. Power is energy. And in terms of energy, the most important energy is human
00:49:20.200spiritual energy. And when I say spiritual, I feel like I have to be very careful. I don't mean
00:49:31.180religious, I mean the energy of the mind, the energy that exists within us. If you're able to
00:49:38.300tap into that energy, then you're part of the network, and really, your power is absolutely
00:49:44.740limitless. End quote. Yoko won't be with us forever. While specific details about her condition
00:49:53.680are not publicly disclosed, it's been widely speculated that Yoko has been living with dementia.
00:49:59.460She's currently 92 years old, and has significantly reduced her public appearances.
00:50:06.140She has been observed using a wheelchair, and rumors swirl that she now requires round-the-clock care.
00:50:13.580And, as Yoko approaches her reunion with John on the other side, it's even more important to solidify her legacy.
00:50:21.200Her contributions to the worlds of magic and the avant-garde as a virtuoso in the medium of human imagination
00:50:29.320cannot be allowed to be outweighed by YouTube comments, misogyny, and obstinate fear of change.
00:50:40.140In her song, Will I, a clock ticks.0.93