Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - A Book and a Finger

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00:00:30.000 two best friends both alike in dignity nurturing phantoms and courting the muse the hag divines

00:00:36.360 when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves to seek but never

00:00:42.280 to find it was berlant and novak the whole time all right hello first of all first of all hello

00:00:53.820 have i ever seen you in that color forest because it's stunning on you and it's like anything else

00:00:59.320 color it's one okay because i've never seen it and it's stunning on you to the point where i'm

00:01:04.500 seeing like you know those things where they do the color yeah yeah yeah obviously like we're real

00:01:08.700 by the way i hear they do them in the farmer's market you serious yes the hollywood farmer's

00:01:12.520 market i think you can get your colors wait the hollywood farmer's market on vine right okay not

00:01:17.080 the farmer's market at third and fairfax where i go oh oh yeah this color is like like i wonder

00:01:24.720 you wonder what no you know when you're just like like i haven't been in that color in a while and

00:01:29.640 like i'm yearning for it like like if i like like it's forest i'm not saying it would look good on

00:01:33.780 me i mean like to be just living inside the color okay that's sorry but i came here with something

00:01:38.660 to say oh yeah poor circulation by the way yeah f miller they sent us this f miller i need more

00:01:43.940 f miller hair oil desperately also you'll notice i'm in my own merch okay some people think that

00:01:48.960 that needs explanation i think that's not our laugh okay yeah you know how how should i expect

00:01:53.680 anyone else to wear it if i can't but i just need to call attention you know what that is it's a

00:01:58.140 blood stain that's from your own head oh yeah i mean not from what's the blood come from nosebleed

00:02:05.760 probably oh but anyway it's there and it's baked into the sweatshirt and it looks like an earring

00:02:10.440 it does it does okay so anyway f miller this was sent to us and i just want to say i've been using

00:02:14.860 it and i never use lip balm wow okay what book do you have there okay i brought this for us because

00:02:20.920 I found it in my parents' basement.

00:02:22.780 Dropped it into a bathtub in 1987?

00:02:25.060 Literally, okay?

00:02:25.980 I mean, or my father did, I guess.

00:02:27.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:28.260 I don't know, but it ended up in the house.

00:02:30.280 A tattered copy of The Mystic and Occult Arts,

00:02:34.860 A Guide to Their Use in Daily Life.

00:02:37.440 Okay?

00:02:38.380 Are you pumped?

00:02:39.640 Because I am.

00:02:40.640 His eyes are crossed.

00:02:42.600 Well, they're crossed towards the third eye.

00:02:44.780 Yeah.

00:02:45.200 They say that's how you activate the pineal.

00:02:47.460 Develop your power.

00:02:48.040 Develop your psychic powers.

00:02:49.980 Okay?

00:02:50.200 open a random page

00:02:51.180 see what happens

00:02:51.840 the Ouija board in action

00:02:54.260 no

00:02:54.760 scary

00:02:56.060 okay yeah

00:02:56.660 and I want to be very clear

00:02:57.920 let's go to one word

00:02:58.540 double

00:03:00.560 no mother 0.99

00:03:01.540 look

00:03:02.260 what would you argue

00:03:03.040 I'm pointing to

00:03:03.600 double

00:03:04.640 oh

00:03:05.120 mother

00:03:06.300 okay what'd you have the one

00:03:07.880 receiver

00:03:09.880 mention

00:03:11.780 okay wait hold on

00:03:12.520 wait there's too many

00:03:13.300 impressed

00:03:13.820 wait wait wait

00:03:14.700 impression

00:03:15.260 look at me trying to capture up

00:03:18.140 stop

00:03:18.540 okay

00:03:19.120 okay I'm losing them

00:03:20.000 I'm losing double.

00:03:21.000 Mother.

00:03:22.560 Receiver.

00:03:23.280 Yeah.

00:03:24.040 Impression.

00:03:24.640 Impression.

00:03:25.000 Impression.

00:03:25.480 Okay.

00:03:26.340 Wait, there was another word after that.

00:03:27.720 Forgot.

00:03:29.700 Wish.

00:03:30.460 What?

00:03:30.920 Wish.

00:03:31.060 Okay, hold on.

00:03:32.840 Slow down.

00:03:33.300 Future.

00:03:33.800 How many cards are we pulling here?

00:03:35.800 Wait, I don't know.

00:03:37.300 I think no more than 12.

00:03:39.000 Symbols.

00:03:39.660 Wait.

00:03:40.060 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven is what?

00:03:45.260 Symbols?

00:03:45.980 Yeah.

00:03:46.960 Reflection.

00:03:48.560 Are you seeing this?

00:03:50.000 sense

00:03:51.400 s-e-n-s-e 1.00

00:03:54.760 okay

00:03:55.060 one more

00:03:55.460 no we got

00:03:56.560 three more

00:03:57.380 okay great

00:03:57.820 I overshot

00:03:59.280 attainment 0.99

00:03:59.860 holy shit 0.99

00:04:00.980 okay hold on 0.99

00:04:01.880 limitations

00:04:03.100 no

00:04:03.680 the final word

00:04:05.520 should I pick it

00:04:07.500 or is that

00:04:08.620 no

00:04:08.860 no no yeah

00:04:09.580 okay

00:04:09.880 okay I pointed at

00:04:12.500 here's where my finger pointed

00:04:13.880 so maybe

00:04:14.220 straight up blank

00:04:14.940 right blank

00:04:15.660 or I was supposed to pick it

00:04:19.200 We didn't go with the moment.

00:04:20.440 Impressions.

00:04:20.760 I've already grabbed another one.

00:04:21.940 Yeah, see, I'm supposed to pick the last one.

00:04:23.640 Can you feel it?

00:04:24.100 Okay, pick the last one.

00:04:24.580 It gave you a no answer, and then it gave you a word you already had.

00:04:26.960 Okay, okay.

00:04:27.360 Okay.

00:04:34.560 I mean, it's clearly surprised.

00:04:41.860 All right, now let's take a minute with it.

00:04:44.000 This is a great way to approach all books.

00:04:47.020 Okay, I agree.

00:04:48.720 Okay, with the spirit of divination.

00:04:51.700 All right.

00:04:52.520 Now here we go.

00:04:53.760 Now I've been totally locked in as a secretary,

00:04:57.400 so I haven't been able to do anything other than—

00:04:59.740 I mean, to me, but knowing nothing, right?

00:05:02.380 I'm like, what was this about?

00:05:03.520 Like, this was obviously about sort of like—

00:05:06.520 Let me see them again.

00:05:09.400 Yearning, like a wish, a desire,

00:05:13.600 but of course through limitation is the only way through.

00:05:16.120 i wish you had i wish you had been auditing my my therapy today really

00:05:22.080 well it's dead on i have to take a picture of it for my therapist

00:05:26.360 bring me in now i mean tell me double well okay no i mean you don't tell me about therapy but

00:05:33.340 now actually take me on the journey okay okay i want to experience it so i haven't had a chance

00:05:36.960 let's just let's just take a minute with this that these were randomly pointed out yes we're

00:05:42.580 all there and imagine that we came at it with just yeah you know we flew free and everyone saw it we 0.98

00:05:48.240 okay we moved with the moment i mean this is a fucking story yeah this is a premonition tell 0.97

00:05:52.760 me no more this is a story and this is where the healing is let me have it free okay okay it's 0.99

00:05:56.620 fucking overwhelming double mother receive wait it's slower i'm sorry no no double mother 0.97

00:06:05.840 double okay mother okay receiver don't nuance it okay receiver you're like hero impression 0.99

00:06:23.020 okay impression okay wish wish okay future future stuff okay future symbols okay right right lost in

00:06:36.540 the forest okay reception okay okay sense now wait hold on so so that's interesting because we went

00:06:43.260 from the okay symbols reception oh fuck wasn't reception no earlier remember if it was receiver

00:06:53.740 here receiver was earlier and then and then it was oh no i meant to write reflection 0.71

00:07:01.880 just together okay this is okay double double mother receiver okay now we got impression

00:07:13.200 wish future symbols wait reflection i need to see it wait i'm losing it okay wait wait yeah

00:07:19.920 symbols reflection sense so this is where things get interesting i know i know yeah sense attainment

00:07:26.060 limitation are you kidding me right now surprise attainment and then limitation surprise surprise

00:07:31.380 and by the way it's a happy ending to be surprised to be surprised 0.91

00:07:36.180 so so to me this is a life's journey this is a fucking journey now there's some very interesting 0.90

00:07:45.400 points in here okay there's some interesting points in like moments to me i want to do you 0.96

00:07:50.440 i want you to do yours i know it's coming but i want it now no no no no no no this is so much

00:07:59.620 fun here the fact that you thought this was yours what do you mean we're doing something together

00:08:05.120 that it was an abstract thing.

00:08:06.840 We were both like,

00:08:07.480 what does it mean?

00:08:08.460 And I was like,

00:08:08.880 we are,

00:08:09.460 but I mean,

00:08:09.880 you point on,

00:08:11.920 you point to your words.

00:08:13.960 My words.

00:08:14.780 I thought this was an open,

00:08:16.480 shared experiment.

00:08:17.360 Not like it is.

00:08:19.000 No,

00:08:19.480 but you're saying now mine.

00:08:20.960 Do you mean you pointing?

00:08:22.500 Right.

00:08:22.820 But,

00:08:23.040 but are you saying these don't apply to me?

00:08:24.640 No,

00:08:24.820 of course not.

00:08:25.260 This wasn't like pulling a card for you.

00:08:26.880 No,

00:08:27.060 no,

00:08:27.200 no.

00:08:27.360 Okay.

00:08:27.580 We're back.

00:08:28.060 Okay.

00:08:28.380 Okay.

00:08:28.580 Okay.

00:08:28.940 Because I just want to continue.

00:08:30.480 I do think before we do more,

00:08:32.080 what is the,

00:08:33.620 now that everyone's had a chance to experience it.

00:08:36.140 Okay, what is,

00:08:38.440 what do you experience in this story?

00:08:39.780 I mean, there's like a journey, clearly.

00:08:42.340 So double mother receiver.

00:08:43.900 To me, that's sort of, dare I say, act one.

00:08:46.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:46.800 Almost embarrassingly so.

00:08:48.840 Okay, but then impression.

00:08:51.780 Well, I was almost the impression of the mother.

00:08:54.060 Oh, like doing an impression of.

00:08:55.420 I mean, right.

00:08:56.240 Yeah.

00:08:56.360 And then wish for the future.

00:08:59.600 Wish in the future.

00:09:00.660 now symbols is about

00:09:03.400 now some would argue

00:09:05.240 the language of the unconscious

00:09:06.940 how does one connect with a wish

00:09:08.920 through symbolic

00:09:10.540 so if you're trying to find your way

00:09:13.020 you're engaging with symbols to find your way

00:09:14.480 and living in the symbolic realm

00:09:16.160 and then reflection and then you come into the body

00:09:19.000 exactly

00:09:19.920 we're reading this

00:09:22.540 this is where things get interesting

00:09:24.680 now we're in sense and attainment

00:09:27.900 this is adolescence

00:09:31.660 Impression, wish, future?

00:09:32.880 Impression, maybe.

00:09:34.540 Right.

00:09:34.860 Wish, future.

00:09:36.300 Symbols are where you have to get symbols.

00:09:39.500 You're getting into it.

00:09:40.500 You go with yourself.

00:09:41.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:41.720 You're getting into it.

00:09:42.620 Mm-hmm.

00:09:43.140 Mm-hmm.

00:09:43.680 Right.

00:09:44.020 Symbols.

00:09:44.700 Okay.

00:09:45.860 And you must reflect upon them.

00:09:47.660 Right.

00:09:47.900 But the body, you got to come to the body to make it real.

00:09:50.520 It can't just be all abstract.

00:09:52.880 Attainment. 1.00

00:09:53.320 Damn. 1.00

00:09:53.960 Okay. 1.00

00:09:54.340 You shall attain.

00:09:55.880 But ask the question, what are the limitations?

00:09:59.220 And you go, what are they?

00:09:59.840 You go, oh, I thought I got, but, uh.

00:10:01.620 Right.

00:10:01.860 And then everything's transformed.

00:10:05.600 Desire must be transformed.

00:10:07.560 Surprised.

00:10:08.120 The final truth and wisdom.

00:10:11.000 At the height of wisdom, there is laughter.

00:10:13.320 The piece of the surprise.

00:10:14.360 Right.

00:10:14.700 Once again, I did not have control.

00:10:16.640 I do not have control.

00:10:18.500 The wisdom and surrender.

00:10:19.200 That was huge.

00:10:19.420 The wisdom and surrender.

00:10:21.040 Yes.

00:10:21.880 Okay, will you point?

00:10:22.620 I'm scared because it'll never be as good, but it doesn't have to be.

00:10:25.460 I mean, it doesn't have to be the same thing.

00:10:27.060 We have to go on a new journey.

00:10:28.260 Of course, of course.

00:10:28.480 Okay.

00:10:28.600 But also, I just want to be completely honest about some of the pointing that I was doing,

00:10:32.140 which is, let's just say I pointed, and I was kind of between, like, for example.

00:10:35.860 Yeah, you didn't go with of.

00:10:37.800 Yeah, I didn't go with can. 1.00

00:10:39.080 Yeah, that's fine. 1.00

00:10:40.700 But you were pretty close.

00:10:41.740 Like, you revealed when it was a space.

00:10:43.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:44.020 Okay, what's happening now?

00:10:44.820 Okay, I'm doing it.

00:10:45.120 Now you're doing 12.

00:10:45.820 And I got 12.

00:10:46.520 Now you note take.

00:10:47.360 Okay, okay, okay.

00:10:47.820 All right.

00:10:48.420 Okay.

00:10:49.240 Wait, wait, I'll do it on the same.

00:10:50.960 No, no, okay, sure.

00:10:52.480 Okay, go.

00:10:56.040 Oh, wait, I sort of.

00:10:57.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:57.860 don't leave okay yeah although i can't explain it i did boom to something in a way even though

00:11:03.760 that was like okay sure it could be sometimes okay yeah

00:11:06.460 pertaining

00:11:11.380 me already doubting the new polls

00:11:15.880 company

00:11:19.880 just a keyword of oh yeah i looked again

00:11:24.520 lengthwise

00:11:32.440 this is very sophisticated

00:11:38.060 through

00:11:41.760 I mean

00:11:43.640 some would call it nothing

00:11:45.560 but I think we both know

00:11:47.040 through is very meaningful

00:11:48.420 it's the only way through

00:11:49.320 I don't know if it's a decent word

00:11:52.400 it's the only word

00:11:52.980 i'm squarely on the word to t-o so no but pick the big up related is next to it but it doesn't

00:12:02.280 feel related no i know it is i'm just saying like okay okay sure it felt like why is this pen so 0.89

00:12:07.580 good is this shit or is this good i like it i just got it because it's okay so i'm going with

00:12:16.540 related to that's what it is it's related to those were the two words related to oh related 0.99

00:12:21.260 remember wasn't that the other word no no it was through no that was earlier

00:12:25.160 no i said to and you said next to is related okay related to we're taking okay that's what

00:12:29.600 related to first

00:12:33.080 furniture

00:12:40.820 suppose it by the way this is a huge game that we will monetize

00:12:51.760 okay yeah oh my god this one came in quotes what whoa whoa

00:12:58.140 let quotes be around it everywhere

00:13:00.240 tomorrow

00:13:06.340 this is the new tarot

00:13:07.240 this is the new tarot

00:13:08.480 too by the way

00:13:09.160 tomorrow

00:13:09.700 alright how many are we at

00:13:11.120 are we 12 yet

00:13:11.640 tomorrow

00:13:12.080 are we 12 yet count 0.99

00:13:14.160 are you fucking kidding me 0.99

00:13:15.220 wait wait wait 1.00

00:13:15.820 stay on

00:13:16.240 because I'm still in the mode

00:13:16.900 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

00:13:18.340 one more

00:13:20.280 this is a big one

00:13:22.500 transmit

00:13:26.760 oh my god okay okay here we go all right now read them out yeah sometimes

00:13:35.260 wait should i read them out once because here let me read them out because you never got to okay

00:13:40.700 okay sometimes pertaining

00:13:46.420 company

00:13:48.860 lengthwise

00:13:51.960 this is

00:13:54.380 this is actually incredible

00:13:55.680 okay hold on I'm taking you back

00:13:57.160 sometimes

00:13:58.520 pertaining

00:14:00.260 company

00:14:02.920 lengthwise

00:14:05.180 through

00:14:06.660 related to

00:14:08.820 first

00:14:10.580 furniture

00:14:12.400 okay no no this is coming together

00:14:15.140 supposed

00:14:16.220 everywhere

00:14:18.620 tomorrow

00:14:19.920 transmits.

00:14:22.280 I'm sorry.

00:14:23.140 I mean,

00:14:23.620 I'm reading things into it.

00:14:25.860 Okay.

00:14:26.980 First of all,

00:14:28.380 the layers of directionality.

00:14:30.300 I don't know.

00:14:30.680 We're cutting through things.

00:14:31.660 There's objects.

00:14:32.600 Okay, there's objects.

00:14:33.780 There's static life.

00:14:35.540 I feel like it's

00:14:36.460 a message about,

00:14:37.580 I mean, dare I say,

00:14:38.520 the moving of furniture.

00:14:39.300 Okay, no, but spatial.

00:14:40.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:41.720 The effect of objects.

00:14:43.080 I mean, we're obviously

00:14:43.720 in the body now here.

00:14:44.680 We're in physical space in this one.

00:14:46.900 And that's why it's so radical.

00:14:48.180 But it's not arbitrary.

00:14:49.320 We're in the plastic elements of life.

00:14:51.140 And I mean, for them to throw the word furniture at us amidst all that is actually hysterical and dead on.

00:14:57.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:58.580 For the truth.

00:14:59.300 Yeah.

00:14:59.900 And words are furniture.

00:15:01.180 Sometimes it's about that.

00:15:02.220 Well, ain't that the truth?

00:15:03.420 Okay.

00:15:03.920 Sometimes it's about that.

00:15:05.440 Sometimes.

00:15:07.140 Which is.

00:15:11.100 Sometimes.

00:15:11.580 Well, to me, it's going sometimes.

00:15:15.280 I feel like they're taking us sometimes.

00:15:17.660 It's not all about abstract big words.

00:15:20.880 Right, right, right.

00:15:21.580 Sometimes, yeah.

00:15:22.620 Sometimes it's about moving the furniture.

00:15:23.980 Sometimes it's a complicated idea.

00:15:25.540 Oh, yeah.

00:15:25.940 Sometimes it's a very complicated idea.

00:15:28.400 Let's talk about sometimes.

00:15:29.820 Sometimes.

00:15:31.220 Like what?

00:15:32.640 Right?

00:15:32.960 It's all sometimes.

00:15:34.180 What's not sometimes?

00:15:36.380 I think, well, here's what sometimes means.

00:15:38.440 It means it's not all the time.

00:15:39.620 The sun comes up.

00:15:40.380 you wouldn't say sometimes

00:15:42.020 but everything else is sometimes

00:15:44.040 life is sometimes

00:15:45.620 our existence is sometimes

00:15:47.860 sometimes Saturn's rings are disappearing

00:15:50.940 it's always

00:15:52.600 sometimes

00:15:53.560 sometimes

00:15:54.580 sometimes

00:15:56.900 sometimes

00:16:00.880 pertaining

00:16:01.700 company

00:16:03.840 so sometimes

00:16:07.280 is having this relationship to company

00:16:09.380 oh you think the pertaining is a link there I'm convinced that pertaining must be its own

00:16:15.440 I mean there's relation I know but it can't just be a brain well this is what's what I'm thinking

00:16:20.640 here's what I'm saying sometimes and then pertaining okay it's like to me this this one

00:16:26.020 my attitude about those words yeah can it be good and it's it's got to be another big big

00:16:31.300 hero's journey of life okay if it doesn't produce that and then it was I felt like it was playing

00:16:35.780 with us by giving us this kind of well sometimes it's not that okay like it can be matters

00:16:41.700 pertaining to the earth okay yeah like what's pertinent by the way have you ever noticed that

00:16:49.100 pertinent is pertaining yeah yeah yeah yeah sometimes pertinent pertinent okay so sometimes

00:16:57.940 pertaining what's the next one through this is where it's crazy lengthwise company lengthwise

00:17:03.020 through and then we're too related to i know back to pertaining right first it's going no back to

00:17:09.700 first yeah back to where we were furniture 0.98

00:17:13.840 supposed supposed yeah or supposed fucking idiot supposed yeah no it's supposed i i only emphasized 0.99

00:17:24.300 and to make it clear. 1.00

00:17:25.500 No, no, suppose it.

00:17:27.920 Everywhere.

00:17:29.000 So, so furniture.

00:17:29.980 Let's take a minute with everywhere.

00:17:30.820 Furniture, by the way,

00:17:31.780 it's literally laughing.

00:17:32.500 It goes, the book is going,

00:17:34.260 furniture, suppose it, everywhere.

00:17:38.880 Tomorrow transit.

00:17:41.000 Transmit, yeah.

00:17:42.500 Tomorrow transmit.

00:17:43.880 See, I don't know.

00:17:44.620 I'm stuck on this kind of like idea

00:17:46.180 that it's like.

00:17:46.960 It's movement.

00:17:47.520 This is about movement.

00:17:48.000 It's bringing us into shapes.

00:17:49.060 It's bringing us into.

00:17:51.040 Well, yeah, but it's also, to me,

00:17:52.560 it's about like alignment and direction.

00:17:54.300 and, like, it's moving things into patterns.

00:17:57.140 Connections, pertains sometimes.

00:17:57.880 Okay, like, to me, if you order,

00:17:59.440 I mean, to me, this is very, like,

00:18:01.060 dare I say feng shui, okay?

00:18:02.600 Apologies, I know it's not 1982.

00:18:03.420 This is a room.

00:18:04.980 Okay, but, yeah, this is a room,

00:18:06.800 and to me, it's saying,

00:18:07.700 you arrange things in such a way,

00:18:10.660 tomorrow, like, if you arrange them a certain way,

00:18:13.540 the signal will come through.

00:18:15.340 Wait, are you relating the two to each other now?

00:18:16.980 Yeah, kind of.

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00:19:49.340 this is huge but lots to say but but you heard i'm saying this is a new way this this is this

00:19:56.320 is the new tarot well we thought we didn't have a new tarot right we do random word selection

00:20:03.480 it's a and not even totally i think there's something about the book no one has time to

00:20:08.720 read okay no but you get the general and do it sometimes for two well you do get a sense but

00:20:16.380 sitting with a friend

00:20:19.180 with a book

00:20:19.740 and a finger

00:20:20.360 that's

00:20:22.300 here's what you'll need

00:20:23.660 for our game

00:20:24.140 that's

00:20:24.580 a book

00:20:25.060 a pen

00:20:25.720 and a piece of paper

00:20:26.740 oh

00:20:27.180 and a friend

00:20:28.040 I think this

00:20:29.040 this is a social game

00:20:30.160 company required

00:20:31.240 for this one

00:20:32.160 game

00:20:32.500 okay

00:20:33.260 I have a lot

00:20:34.700 I think you can do it alone though

00:20:35.920 no

00:20:36.580 it's a different game then

00:20:37.820 no

00:20:38.180 no

00:20:38.800 I think it's

00:20:39.740 single player

00:20:40.440 no that's what

00:20:42.000 all I'm saying

00:20:42.600 it becomes a different game

00:20:43.980 oh it becomes a different game

00:20:45.100 it's pulling a private card.

00:20:47.580 I just think...

00:20:48.660 I want to keep picking words.

00:20:50.420 To me, this was a little bit...

00:20:51.920 There's a group divination.

00:20:52.960 I think it's deeply relational.

00:20:54.780 That was part.

00:20:55.960 I'm not trying to rob someone.

00:20:57.320 But there's just something like...

00:20:58.600 I don't know.

00:20:58.900 I feel like...

00:20:59.380 It's a conversation.

00:20:59.800 You need a little more ritual.

00:21:01.120 If you're going to do solo divination, 0.98

00:21:02.640 I feel like you need like an I Ching or something. 1.00

00:21:04.280 Yeah. 1.00

00:21:05.100 I'm not trying to say don't do this game.

00:21:07.140 Do this game.

00:21:07.840 But do you know what I mean?

00:21:08.600 Yeah.

00:21:08.960 No, I hear you.

00:21:10.200 I'm glad you're defending it.

00:21:11.080 Do the game.

00:21:11.940 But I don't know what...

00:21:12.920 Yeah, I'm not really sure what I'm saying.

00:21:14.180 I'll have to think about it.

00:21:15.160 Anyway.

00:21:15.780 Wow.

00:21:16.400 This is, see, this is, you and me understand each other, okay?

00:21:19.800 Yeah.

00:21:20.000 People don't necessarily, like, we didn't even,

00:21:22.940 we weren't even showing off how well we understand each other,

00:21:24.900 which we could do easily.

00:21:26.540 Like, how quickly we could put something together.

00:21:28.840 Like, I'm actually going to a different place with it.

00:21:30.440 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:21:30.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:31.440 But this is, like, big.

00:21:35.840 Oh, yeah.

00:21:36.380 But this is very, this was very, no, see,

00:21:40.780 there is something about three, right?

00:21:43.280 Three?

00:21:44.000 We did it once.

00:21:44.780 We did it a second time.

00:21:45.560 Now we need synthesis.

00:21:46.840 We need the third card, which is...

00:21:48.560 Twelve.

00:21:49.260 Twelve words.

00:21:49.980 Each person does six.

00:21:51.600 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:21:52.860 Yes, the final twelve is synthesis.

00:21:53.980 Okay, the final twelve.

00:21:54.660 Do you want to go you, me, you, me, me?

00:21:56.440 Or the first person does six and the second person does six?

00:21:58.240 No, no, no.

00:21:58.680 No, back and forth.

00:21:59.500 Of course. 0.97

00:21:59.920 What a sick idea you had there. 0.80

00:22:01.860 Okay, okay. 0.83

00:22:02.220 Get your pen ready, okay?

00:22:03.240 Okay, okay.

00:22:05.580 All right, let me just get free.

00:22:06.800 I want it on the same piece of paper.

00:22:08.420 I don't know why, but I feel like...

00:22:10.780 Okay, yeah, yeah.

00:22:12.300 For sure, yeah, okay.

00:22:13.560 No, but then, okay

00:22:14.960 Particles

00:22:20.300 Okay, okay

00:22:23.600 You'll write the first word and then I'll write the second word

00:22:25.700 Okay

00:22:26.000 Dream

00:22:30.080 The Ouija

00:22:38.080 And I was right between the Ouija

00:22:40.140 Okay, the Ouija

00:22:41.420 i already did ouija earlier immediate would you say this is immediate or no that's immediate

00:22:52.220 well it's immediate because it already be i don't even see immediate oh to me it's compromised okay

00:22:57.140 i think i'm pointing compromise but i wrote down immediate thus making it something i think

00:23:02.340 i think they're both gonna have to live here the way they came into the conversation i think it's

00:23:07.640 What am I writing, though?

00:23:08.600 Commiserate?

00:23:09.140 You get to write compromise.

00:23:10.320 Oh, right.

00:23:10.920 The rules of this game are you can do slash undershirt.

00:23:14.360 If you feel...

00:23:16.400 Let's keep up the pace.

00:23:20.480 From?

00:23:21.500 No, no.

00:23:22.040 Yeah, I'm doing upstream right next to it.

00:23:23.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:24.680 Upstream.

00:23:25.180 Oh. 0.99

00:23:26.640 Damn, isn't that interesting? 0.99

00:23:28.940 Okay. 0.99

00:23:33.220 Outward.

00:23:37.640 that word, okay?

00:23:43.600 Perpetual.

00:23:44.920 Yay!

00:23:55.240 National.

00:23:56.480 National?

00:23:57.380 National.

00:23:58.120 Oh, my God.

00:23:59.320 Weird.

00:24:00.120 I know.

00:24:04.200 National.

00:24:07.640 recording

00:24:10.480 and by the way it was next to the word ouija again okay but i'll ignore that okay

00:24:16.740 i mean i mean it was nearby okay wait where did they go oh here they are psychic no

00:24:22.760 no

00:24:22.820 and here comes the final word okay

00:24:28.080 running

00:24:32.400 okay here we go okay okay here's what it is read it out read it out fast once i want to

00:24:40.580 okay articles dream the ouija immediate or compromise upstream

00:24:47.720 outward perpetual national recording psychic running interesting the way you paired

00:24:57.760 okay hold on articles dream the ouija immediate compromise upstream outward perpetual national

00:25:10.000 recording psychic running this is about water well i was just gonna say so we're in a river

00:25:18.820 what's going on we're in a river we're in a perpetual river yeah and what oh upstream

00:25:24.340 Dream right next to the Ouija.

00:25:26.300 So is this about going public?

00:25:29.240 Is this about Berlin at Novak?

00:25:31.860 Wait, is this about the free feed?

00:25:33.360 Yeah.

00:25:33.760 The Ouija board is an immediate compromise.

00:25:35.460 Like that is cashing in.

00:25:37.720 And it's dangerous.

00:25:38.680 Families have been thrown around their homes.

00:25:41.320 Thrown into their own ceiling fans.

00:25:44.180 Due to playing with the Ouija board.

00:25:45.960 For real.

00:25:46.540 Okay.

00:25:47.060 I've read about this.

00:25:48.000 Okay.

00:25:48.480 So we'll auction this off.

00:25:50.240 Oh, yeah.

00:25:50.860 It's like...

00:25:54.340 so where does it all come together in the end okay so so we started kind of with the we i think

00:25:59.580 we started with the large the large journey of life a little bit for us right then we moved into

00:26:06.760 today and the physical and the arranging of things and directions i mean to me the transmit

00:26:12.560 is once you arrange everything the signal can transmit so that's why i was pushing that angle

00:26:16.260 yes i was moving furniture earlier okay yeah and then we got into this kind of

00:26:24.340 almost the business of life yeah it was almost very

00:26:28.640 i don't know this feels well-rounded yeah yeah yeah totally and this is like this you got to

00:26:37.400 work with this is not just a bunch of whatever this is like we got things to do on this plane

00:26:45.100 huge i don't know where this is going but i know this is huge i'm of course like

00:26:50.760 what afraid electrified what no no no the game is huge yeah is this listenable

00:26:58.020 yes okay great i mean we can we can try to make it more listenable now but let's all right let's

00:27:05.240 wrap this up here's what i'm saying so this game positive yeah i know i think the game is huge i

00:27:10.220 think this is a new this is a huge fucking thing yeah that we've just stumbled into 0.72

00:27:13.960 well so do i it's fortune telling it's a game it's storytelling it's co-created story 0.92

00:27:21.760 yeah no i i'm absolutely language yeah and it was live discovered i will never apologize for

00:27:29.300 i'm not apologizing you know you know what i'm saying like and by the way some of those people

00:27:35.120 jumped out of their seats at home going i cannot believe these words are coming through i know no

00:27:40.340 I mean, jumped out at these because it spoke to them personally.

00:27:43.540 The words come through.

00:27:44.940 The words are coming through.

00:27:47.880 You know, it's not the tools.

00:27:50.680 I mean, it's the spirit brought to the tools.

00:27:55.120 This is why.

00:27:55.700 Grab your friend.

00:27:57.000 Grab a book.

00:27:59.040 Grab whatever.

00:28:02.340 And get going.

00:28:02.940 Get going.

00:28:03.760 By the way, I want to see people's words so bad I could cry.

00:28:06.820 I know.

00:28:07.180 So please post.

00:28:08.060 I also want to, I also, and if they, but other forms, we got to get into more loose.

00:28:12.720 The magic you create yourself is the real magic.

00:28:14.860 Magic you create yourself is the real magic.

00:28:16.640 The ritual you create yourself.

00:28:18.040 I want to see videos of people reciting their words.

00:28:22.880 And discovering them maybe.

00:28:24.680 But I'm also open if you turn a wine glass upside down, okay, and make a game where you tap it with a pen.

00:28:29.220 What?

00:28:29.680 I remember the glass upside down.

00:28:31.020 There's a spider in it, yeah.

00:28:32.540 Oh, maybe that's why I thought.

00:28:33.700 No, but a wine glass turned upside down and they're tapping it with a friend.

00:28:35.660 And if the sound is sonorous, that means yes.

00:28:38.060 Like, people need to claim the right to make their own ritual magic huge.

00:28:51.380 You ever wake up with a curious symptom, a swollen and itchy eye, a strange-looking rash, an oddly tight knot in the neck, a cold that's persistence astonishes, and immediately you Google it looking for answers.

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00:30:26.600 By the way, all this word talk making me in the mood for the hagline.

00:30:30.120 the hagline no it's probably gonna say it's perfect so just so if you're if you're new here

00:30:34.540 the hagline been called the muse line we're changing the name casually called this hagline

00:30:41.820 and we go fuck it it's a hagline all right we're doing the hagline now okay the hagline guys link 0.74

00:30:48.640 in bio okay call in what is the idea the idea is leave a fragment of a fragment an inspiration a 0.98

00:30:55.280 a comment a thought the point is it's it's not a place for question well everything's a space for

00:31:00.220 question but you know what i mean it's a no right this is not sharing this is about sharing this is

00:31:05.840 about stimulating conversation and being part of it in in a glorious way so so we had a lot of fun

00:31:12.460 doing this on the bonus episode privately and we said we got to bring it to everybody yeah because

00:31:17.760 everybody can call and leave a message this is this is what's happening yeah all right so let's

00:31:22.020 let's go okay hit it's telling me to speak now this is the first line of a poem that i wrote

00:31:30.120 called my snow white what she winds a braid to a grassy floor kneeling by a rock she extends her

00:31:40.460 arms and the little men climb eagerly take sanctuary in her pale embrace

00:31:49.120 love berlant and novak love poog will love what you do next who is this woman i mean

00:31:59.440 and by the way if that's you i need you desperately in my life i know i need integration

00:32:05.560 if that's you you mean oh you mean to to the to the person listening i was like they are they

00:32:12.440 they are they you know what i mean like what no no but

00:32:19.120 I need her.

00:32:20.520 Yeah.

00:32:21.240 Well, I mean, I was just, I was just, I was nurtured.

00:32:25.640 By the way, have you ever heard someone talk about their own poetry with that level of just ease?

00:32:33.680 The giving, the generosity.

00:32:35.140 Neither a me nor a capacity.

00:32:38.780 That was sharing.

00:32:40.640 By the way, that was the spirit.

00:32:42.660 That's the true spirit of Haggeline.

00:32:45.200 Hail embrace.

00:32:46.620 Okay.

00:32:47.320 Him again.

00:32:47.440 Oh my God, I love that.

00:32:48.180 That's what I'm talking about.

00:32:49.120 it again this is a line from the lottery in babylon by jorge luis borges it's about um a

00:32:56.220 society whose citizens had to participate in a lottery every change in their life every fork

00:33:02.940 in the road in someone's life was the outcome was determined by drawing a ticket in a lottery

00:33:08.520 so in many cases the knowledge that certain happy turns were the simple result of chance

00:33:16.880 would have lessened the force of those outcomes to forestall that problem agents of the company

00:33:23.340 employed suggestion or even magic right that's that's that's interesting that's very interesting

00:33:31.700 the only option for me is to go read the full i know lottery no because i i remember that yeah

00:33:37.940 because that sounds compelling we're gonna have to revisit that well that is what it is it is a 0.97

00:33:43.020 fucking lottery birth they're saying that the people in charge of the lottery had to use magic 0.99

00:33:48.500 and superstition whatever to offset the fact that because it said that it was too random 0.99

00:33:53.620 if it was it would soften the blow if they knew it were up to chance

00:33:58.640 see to me that's saying like that's like you know the ritual as the faux control

00:34:07.920 Mm-hmm.

00:34:08.520 Maybe?

00:34:09.020 I don't know.

00:34:09.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:09.720 But all right, we need to catch up on our Borges.

00:34:12.400 We need to.

00:34:13.080 I need to catch up on my sleep.

00:34:17.020 No, but I mean, I want to be sharp for it.

00:34:18.560 Let me be sharp for the Borges.

00:34:20.060 Yeah.

00:34:20.840 All right.

00:34:21.360 Thank you.

00:34:21.960 Always bring Borges.

00:34:22.620 You're amazing.

00:34:23.080 Never upset.

00:34:24.180 Okay, we'll bring Borges ourselves. 1.00

00:34:26.240 That hag understands. 1.00

00:34:28.460 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:29.040 Thank you.

00:34:29.720 We feel seen.

00:34:30.900 I really do.

00:34:32.120 Okay, give me more.

00:34:34.020 To trust.

00:34:34.660 I have so much faith in you. I believe I could wait for your voice silently through centuries

00:34:42.760 of darkness. Like the sun, you know all the secrets. You could make the geraniums and the

00:34:49.600 wild sagara bloom deep in the marble quarries and the legendary prisons. I have so much faith in

00:34:57.500 you i'm as calm as an arab wrapped in his white barrican listening to god make the barley grow 0.90

00:35:05.360 around his house oh that's beautiful that's by antonio ozzi like here's the thing about listening 0.75

00:35:14.100 to poetry right you're listening right it's going over you you know it's beautiful and it's gone

00:35:19.640 and it's gone and then you go what did you just hear right i mean this is like like the question

00:35:25.600 of reading retention

00:35:26.380 or listening retention

00:35:27.820 with poetry

00:35:28.400 and like

00:35:28.760 what is the goal

00:35:30.220 you know what I mean

00:35:30.960 I mean I always

00:35:32.420 when people are like

00:35:33.060 but I don't understand

00:35:33.920 I'm like

00:35:34.260 that I wash over you

00:35:35.480 that I wash over you

00:35:36.320 it's a pain to you

00:35:36.980 the emotional response

00:35:37.820 something

00:35:38.060 yeah you don't need to

00:35:39.500 don't use your head

00:35:40.100 yeah 1.00

00:35:40.660 use your cunt 1.00

00:35:41.940 well that's what I was just thinking 1.00

00:35:42.980 yeah because you go to the heart

00:35:43.840 and then keep going

00:35:44.640 yeah 0.99

00:35:45.100 this woman talking about 1.00

00:35:47.460 singing from the hips

00:35:48.220 I remember in college

00:35:49.100 her mother taught her 0.97

00:35:50.200 like sing from the hips

00:35:51.480 like you gotta sing from down here

00:35:54.120 yeah yeah

00:35:54.720 and you're like

00:35:55.600 I was referencing Six Feet Under and Olivier, basically.

00:36:04.280 Saying what?

00:36:05.120 That's what I said.

00:36:05.920 With the, oh, with the, just cracking open the eye.

00:36:12.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, cracking open the eye.

00:36:14.060 But I got to say, that person really knew how to read, like,

00:36:16.740 are you kidding with that voice?

00:36:18.520 That was like, are they an Oscar-nominated actor?

00:36:21.220 The meeting was coming through because of the reading.

00:36:23.280 because reading poetry isn't reading a book you know what i mean yeah that's even privately to

00:36:28.980 yourself you can't be like i went to the store and it was crazy because they had although to me

00:36:34.220 how it is a little bit like through the centuries there's a there is a both yeah both are real

00:36:41.120 what's that learning poetry with your teacher yeah right i just mean there is like i open a

00:36:49.220 book and it like like smells like an old book from the 70s but then the poetry is actually from

00:36:53.680 the 1500s like yeah and like there's something happening there like in the silence of my mind

00:36:57.840 I remember like in seventh grade reading poetry and going like oh my god like across the centuries

00:37:02.580 it's unbelievable and then that's where modern poetry just you're like what they're alive and

00:37:08.080 you're like oh my god it's like erotic almost a fresh fruit like oh yeah yeah totally I know

00:37:14.580 It's like, what?

00:37:15.360 This was composed in 19...

00:37:17.360 He's somewhere right now.

00:37:19.260 He's in 1997 instead of last week.

00:37:21.300 Right.

00:37:22.160 Okay.

00:37:23.820 Glorious.

00:37:25.160 It's a question.

00:37:26.260 It's an ongoing question.

00:37:27.600 What?

00:37:27.940 You ever read poetry?

00:37:29.000 Yeah.

00:37:29.820 No, I mean, like, you ever...

00:37:31.600 Or recite it?

00:37:33.060 Basically, have you ever written a poem and read it aloud for people like...

00:37:35.820 Yeah.

00:37:36.540 Me too.

00:37:37.160 I mean...

00:37:37.600 Yeah.

00:37:38.600 It's good.

00:37:39.280 Yeah.

00:37:39.580 No, I know.

00:37:40.020 I agree.

00:37:40.480 I agree.

00:37:41.120 It's pretty wild, though.

00:37:43.160 To be like...

00:37:44.580 These words have meaning.

00:37:47.800 I mean, I know that's what we do.

00:37:48.900 We stand on stage and we say words that we wrote.

00:37:51.320 But there is something like, you know,

00:37:53.540 just vintage throwback to like college

00:37:57.620 and like seeing poets.

00:38:01.080 You know, like a visiting poet or something.

00:38:03.040 Like that kind of life.

00:38:04.200 Oh, yeah.

00:38:05.640 And it's wild.

00:38:07.760 All right, give me more.

00:38:09.280 I'm starving for it.

00:38:10.920 Oh my God, this is so exciting.

00:38:12.240 okay this is advice to myself by louise erdrich 0.64

00:38:16.660 leave the dishes let the celery rot in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator and an earthen scum

00:38:24.360 harden on the kitchen floor leave the black crumbs in the bottom of the toaster throw the cracked

00:38:30.080 bowl out and don't patch the cup don't patch anything don't mend buy safety pins don't even

00:38:36.160 sew on a button. Let the wind have its way, then the earth that invades as dust, and then the dead

00:38:42.280 foaming up in gray rolls underneath the couch. Talk to them. Tell them they are welcome. Don't

00:38:48.340 keep all the pieces of the puzzles or the doll's tiny shoes in pairs. Don't worry who uses whose

00:38:53.340 toothbrush or if anything matches at all. Accept one word to another or a thought. Pursue the

00:38:59.620 authentic. Decide first what is authentic, then go after it with all your heart. Your heart, that

00:39:04.900 place you don't even think of cleaning out. That closet stuffed with savage mementos. Don't sort

00:39:10.380 the paperclips from screws from saved baby teeth or worry if we're all eating cereal for dinner.

00:39:15.840 Again, don't answer the telephone ever or weep over anything at all that breaks. Pink molds will

00:39:22.140 grow within those sealed cartons in the refrigerator. Accept new forms of life and talk to the dead

00:39:27.480 who drift in through the screened windows, who collect patiently on the tops of food jars and

00:39:32.800 books recycle the mail don't read it don't read anything except what destroys the insulation

00:39:38.660 between yourself and your experience or what pulls down or what strikes at or what shatters

00:39:44.020 this ruse you call necessity oh how freaking good is that and did i stumble upon it on facebook 0.82

00:39:52.620 yes yes i did yes i did and i thought this is for fucking pook all right i love you guys so much 0.72

00:39:58.840 thank you love you doll what a sweet angel great reading too and yeah and i sense a theater degree 0.73

00:40:06.120 oh i do too yeah and there's a reading was there and um yeah well it's interesting because i

00:40:13.280 sometimes think there's a i go well first i got that i would some people need to tighten the

00:40:19.560 screws no no i got i got defensive at the beginning well like me i have to patch it oh really yeah

00:40:26.000 that's what you see i'm going like i'm going like like check and check you know what i mean like

00:40:33.380 like in other words like you know notes notes to self like

00:40:39.460 if you're already the poet like you know what i mean like do i need the poem that's like note

00:40:45.660 to self that's like that's like keep a budget you know what i mean like try mending something

00:40:51.440 once in your life yeah yeah totally you know like consider cooking the celery before it rots

00:40:56.740 like i'm like already like living the poet's dream okay at all times you're making dump soups

00:41:03.600 yeah yeah like like let the the edges fray oh there are you know it's like yeah i mean i am

00:41:13.300 i am the poet eccentric you know what i mean but but we come to town to tell the others right i

00:41:18.860 I mean, we're deranged at the edge of town.

00:41:22.280 So it's like, yeah, it's not.

00:41:23.660 And I don't know if Erdrich, you know, Erdrich, if she really needs to.

00:41:30.540 I bet she has holes in her shoes.

00:41:32.560 No, I'm wondering.

00:41:33.760 But she's fixed.

00:41:34.440 See, that's what I'm wondering.

00:41:36.140 Is she.

00:41:36.800 I think she does not have holes. 0.73

00:41:37.580 Because she says notes to self.

00:41:39.080 Yeah, no, I think she's doing it.

00:41:40.480 But it's not interesting to be a poet, okay?

00:41:42.360 To be a poet and not just already be.

00:41:46.340 like they suggest to me she's kind of

00:41:48.820 yeah she's clean up

00:41:50.420 you know yeah it's like

00:41:51.940 totally

00:41:53.680 I don't know we hold within ourselves

00:41:56.140 contradictions

00:41:57.560 like

00:41:58.480 music train the music of train

00:42:02.700 taught us

00:42:03.280 she only drinks coffee at midnight

00:42:06.380 when the moment is not right

00:42:08.460 the timing is quite

00:42:09.980 unusual

00:42:11.040 you see her confidence is tragic

00:42:14.500 her intuition magic

00:42:16.680 I think good

00:42:17.680 I'm gonna

00:42:18.620 I'm gonna unpack this episode

00:42:20.280 I'm gonna unpack this song

00:42:21.280 for you one day

00:42:21.880 I think that

00:42:22.480 meet Virginia

00:42:23.120 I think important

00:42:23.920 oh that's that song

00:42:25.080 meet Virginia

00:42:25.740 I can't wait to

00:42:28.480 I think important context

00:42:29.540 for this episode

00:42:30.200 that's gonna really help

00:42:31.220 meet Virginia

00:42:31.380 yeah yeah

00:42:32.840 it's like 11 o'clock at night

00:42:35.120 and I'm so tired 0.72

00:42:36.680 she wants to be abusive

00:42:39.620 oh wait I slipped into 0.98

00:42:41.600 wait that's what

00:42:42.420 While she's thinking about her life.

00:42:46.600 Oh, no, no.

00:42:46.940 Hold her hair back.

00:42:49.060 Wait, that's a different song, no?

00:42:50.820 Oh, no, thank God.

00:42:51.720 Okay, wait.

00:42:52.020 I want to talk about Meet Virginia.

00:42:53.680 I want to talk about a train.

00:42:54.500 I've been wanting to talk about it for 20 years.

00:42:56.040 No.

00:42:56.280 I don't have a connection to a train.

00:42:57.720 I never have.

00:42:58.160 I'm going to teach you.

00:42:59.500 Okay?

00:42:59.860 What I just want you to understand,

00:43:00.860 we'll talk about another episode, okay?

00:43:02.240 Okay.

00:43:02.560 But, like, I want to take a minute

00:43:03.920 because you know the tunes, okay?

00:43:05.240 This is one of these songs that I love,

00:43:06.660 these songs,

00:43:07.180 where they have the fantasy woman, okay,

00:43:09.400 who they pose as complex

00:43:10.900 and full of contradiction,

00:43:12.420 And then the contradictions are nothing.

00:43:15.940 She only drinks coffee at midnight.

00:43:18.540 Okay, it's like, who doesn't at a diner?

00:43:22.600 And also, who doesn't at a diner?

00:43:24.880 Okay.

00:43:25.720 Yeah.

00:43:25.960 And then, like,

00:43:29.020 May Virginia, I can't wait too.

00:43:32.480 May Virginia, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:34.700 Okay, listen.

00:43:35.980 I think it's 11 at night.

00:43:37.940 I have to go to bed.

00:43:39.100 That's an interesting context for a listener.

00:43:42.420 I get more amped up before bed.

00:43:44.280 The eyes are red.

00:43:45.520 I get amped up.

00:43:46.320 I already am operating.

00:43:47.320 The listener wants to hear me sing.

00:43:49.260 I'm operating on seven hours of sleep.

00:43:51.580 I need nine.

00:43:53.080 Daddy wrestles alligators.

00:43:55.280 Oh, wait, wait, wait. 0.80

00:43:56.020 Daddy wrestles alligators. 1.00

00:43:57.240 Mama works on carburetors. 0.73

00:43:59.820 You wish. 1.00

00:44:02.040 For the president.

00:44:02.620 You know what I mean?

00:44:04.220 Okay, well.

00:44:04.800 Here she is on the phone, just like me. 1.00

00:44:07.780 Hates to be alone. 1.00

00:44:09.600 She just wants to sit home. 1.00

00:44:11.140 shit on the president okay okay okay um good night wait this is our latest this is what i was looking 1.00

00:44:18.500 for she smokes a pack a day wait that's me but anyway wow you like that the point is 0.99

00:44:30.680 i don't know i don't know what i have to say but but i like to laugh about it but then what can i

00:44:36.640 say I love the tune hey I would never take that from you I love you I love you

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 21, 2025

A Book and a Finger

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