Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - A Zero Involved (RE-RELEASE)

00:00:00.860 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:00:02.440 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:00:03.540 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:00:08.260 Two untamable intellects.

00:00:10.040 This is our hobby. 0.97

00:00:10.880 This is our hell.

00:00:11.740 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:00:14.020 This is POOG.

00:00:15.440 Today's topic, loosely speaking, insurmountable admin, 1K48.

00:00:24.760 Hello.

00:00:25.820 What a delight to see my friends.

00:00:27.800 Oh, hello.

00:00:28.720 Oh, well.

00:00:30.100 You know, by the way, look what I'm wearing.

00:00:32.360 I'm in a Dr. Loretta SPF, SPF shirt.

00:00:35.840 Yeah, they did send this.

00:00:36.820 It was sent to us.

00:00:37.400 It says SPF on it.

00:00:38.400 And as if by clockwork, the UPS man arrives, package in hand.

00:00:43.240 No.

00:00:43.640 Oh, there are two of them.

00:00:45.060 I wonder what it is.

00:00:46.260 I wonder what they are.

00:00:47.260 I swear to God, he yelled, hi, it's me.

00:00:50.080 What's the percentage?

00:00:51.000 What if it's sign only?

00:00:52.220 I'm going to see if he leaves.

00:00:53.580 No, he's gone.

00:00:55.340 First of all, you know what's amazing?

00:00:57.540 Imagine this.

00:00:58.720 20 minutes ago, I was getting a massage. 0.73

00:01:01.420 The masseuse just left my home.

00:01:04.340 Oh, my God, wait.

00:01:05.060 Let me take a minute with this.

00:01:06.480 In-home massage?

00:01:07.420 So this is the woman who I've talked about on Pooh before.

00:01:11.020 Over a year ago, she came and gave me lymphatic drainage, lymphatic massage. 0.91

00:01:15.720 And she comes in. 1.00

00:01:17.720 You're so good at making fucking appointments. 1.00

00:01:20.120 I can teach you. 0.99

00:01:22.680 She, and this was, this is like once you start down the path with someone of like wellness or anything,

00:01:27.060 she was like because I saw her over a year ago and she came in she's like I remember you like

00:01:30.900 your body was so clean because the last time when I saw her because she's like has a very thick

00:01:36.660 accent she's Brazilian there's like a lot of stuff that to be honest I'm just like saying yes to 0.98

00:01:40.560 things I don't know what she's saying um oh my god it's so weird you bust that out so Jacqueline 0.94

00:01:45.900 just busted out the Dennis Gross red light like neck thing which I just found well I was just

00:01:55.380 thinking like because you were talking about how i mean i know how religiously you use the

00:02:01.060 actual full dennis gross mask and i've like seen it on your nightstand and that's how you know yeah

00:02:06.800 totally i could tell it was in use yeah and i was like i gotta step it up i picked this thing up i

00:02:11.500 haven't touched this thing in a year yeah there it is held its charge fully yeah so cool anyway

00:02:17.100 but she said to me last last time i saw her she was like i'm really surprised at how clean your 0.54

00:02:22.100 body is she was like you really have like no blocks clean yeah like no blocks like the lymph

00:02:26.580 system or whatever like your energetic pathways i don't really even know lymph something yeah

00:02:31.480 but she was like yeah and then this time she was like she was like nothing bad but like you have

00:02:36.880 new blocks and she's like she like she immediately it's unbelievable like like when people are just

00:02:41.860 gifted like she has my arm there and she just like immediately from starting massage she goes 0.99

00:02:47.380 she touches my arm and she goes right up to this one spot on my arm presses on it pain

00:02:51.320 yeah she's like yeah you've bought you have a blockage right here and i'm like ow okay she's

00:02:56.860 massaging it she's like don't worry like did you say ow and yeah he said yeah no no she was like

00:03:00.600 i'm not like doubting her i just want to know the process no no she touched my arm and very

00:03:03.960 she immediately went to one spot like on my arm and was like pressing it and i was like oh she's

00:03:09.900 like yeah you've got a block there she's like it's okay like it'll you know it'll go away or

00:03:14.600 whatever she's like they're not deep but she's like yeah you've got these new blocks she's like

00:03:17.900 the last eight months she's like this one's eight months old I was like it's so interesting because

00:03:22.660 I was like thinking back and I was like right the last eight months when things I just have been

00:03:26.480 under unusual dress yeah and I was like that's crazy and so but then she's like yeah you gotta

00:03:33.560 ask the angel angels for help I was like don't I fucking know it and she said you need to yeah

00:03:39.260 she was like she's like don't do it alone and then she like grabbed my my like throat in this 0.78

00:03:42.980 way and she was like you're not saying something like hurt like my throat she didn't grab my throat

00:03:49.080 she was doing like massaging but she was like something's like you haven't said something to

00:03:55.560 someone or something and then she yeah it was cool but then she's like close your eyes she's

00:04:01.120 like touching my stomach like what colors do you see and it's that thing where i'm kind of like

00:04:04.660 purple like i'm just kind of yeah like yeah and she's like you have to eat pear i was like okay

00:04:10.660 she's like you need fruit she's like you need to be eating a lot more fruit i was like totally

00:04:15.060 that's really interesting considering what did i tell you fruit fruit well i love up your fruit

00:04:19.940 massively no but i was telling you that you need to up the quantities yeah you were you were and

00:04:25.920 so i just think i was tuned into something by the way you'll be thrilled to know guess what i had

00:04:30.000 for lunch plant strong veggie burgers we made the mix oh my god you made them you made the patties

00:04:36.800 yeah well yeah because it's it's a mix right you had you had you had hot water we added spices

00:04:43.000 whatever boom burger patties on english muffin loved it well i had okay amazing i had plant

00:04:51.080 strong um pancakes oh and i invented something what it's called pancake mash okay what's that

00:04:59.120 and it's i i don't i struggle with waiting till the bubbles are in the center of the pancake to

00:05:05.700 flip them that whole thing yeah i really struggle with basically cooking a pancake well baking

00:05:10.380 because of the weight that gets done out of the oven you have to wait i mean at least the oven you

00:05:17.280 you set it and forget it right i mean you're standing there with a pan it's like and i just 0.98

00:05:23.040 i want it so badly so i said well if these were eggs i would say fuck it i'm not making an omelet 0.96

00:05:28.660 here i'm gonna make scramble i'm gonna push it around the pan to cook it up into i do scrambled 0.98

00:05:35.080 eggs often in favor of an omelet, right? Yeah. Probably prefer what's going on there. So I just

00:05:40.860 started spatula, the pancake around the pan. Made a scramble, a pancake scramble. Cook, cook, cook.

00:05:49.320 Delicious. I believe it. I don't look pretty, but it don't matter. I believe it. She's got a heart

00:05:54.800 of gold, my pancake mash. I get it. Pancake scramble. Yeah. Mmm. Pancake scramble. I was

00:06:01.780 Well, one thing we've been talking about.

00:06:03.120 Tell me more.

00:06:03.500 I'm dying to this planet.

00:06:04.660 This is everything you dream of.

00:06:05.640 What?

00:06:05.780 Oh, about the woman?

00:06:07.280 Well, I'm going to have her back.

00:06:08.460 I'm going to have her back.

00:06:09.560 Well, because then you zoom out, you look at your life.

00:06:11.880 I'm like, oh, wow.

00:06:12.540 I had acupuncture on Monday and today lymphatic massage.

00:06:16.080 Really?

00:06:16.380 Can you believe it?

00:06:16.820 Yeah.

00:06:17.100 But I'm only doing the acupuncture thing.

00:06:19.580 I don't know how long I'll do it.

00:06:21.020 It's kind of like coming out of the egg retrieval.

00:06:23.760 You know, I kind of like gave myself the gift of like, I'm going to do this stuff.

00:06:27.740 Oh, there it is again.

00:06:28.720 Another treat.

00:06:29.200 you know it requires the way you require to give myself a gift I know it's always got to be well

00:06:37.160 because of blah blah blah I know what is that I um because you're not someone who thinks it's

00:06:42.680 like wrong to right I mean no cheapness no I guess it just it just sounds so extravagant but um

00:06:50.040 I uh but anyway but the woman it was great the massage was great and she was like you meditate

00:06:56.200 right i was like yep haven't in months but you know what i mean but i felt like she was picking

00:07:00.240 it up and she was like yeah your body's good at that um by the way i just discovered this sitting

00:07:08.180 here i haven't tried it yet what's what color is that is it at last no it's not at last my favorite

00:07:12.660 ilia blush is at last it's dreamer yeah it's dreamer and this is the this is i was very excited

00:07:18.780 about the multi-stick with avocado oil orange used in may december of the film really yeah

00:07:26.760 that's the blush that julian moore uses i remember because i saw the film i go that's ilia that's

00:07:31.700 ilia folks and at the premiere they had ilia in the gift bag folks no no yeah oh yeah so i imagine

00:07:39.940 i okay so i got the massage but it's funny how it goes in your head right like oh yeah i hear

00:07:45.960 these blocks and now suddenly I'm like oh god I gotta get the blocks out like it's a it's like

00:07:49.920 you people you can slide into orthorexia pretty quickly or you know what I mean um

00:07:54.600 which is like the fear of like oh no get the blocks out it's like it's fine of course there

00:08:00.160 are blocks of course there are blocks right now that there hadn't been a year ago right you just

00:08:03.980 have to we have to go through different seasons sometimes you're gonna have blocks sometimes

00:08:07.180 you're not that's okay doesn't mean anything's wrong but I want the blocks out I mean there's

00:08:12.440 no point in going to acupuncture or a lymphatic person if there are no blocks you know that's

00:08:17.280 what you want you want to hear there's something to fix oh i told her because my friend my fancy

00:08:21.240 friend recommended this lymph massage woman and i texted my friend i was like oh i've got new blocks

00:08:30.060 whatever she goes see her in two weeks i'll be gone um in other news we were asking about

00:08:37.240 electronic toothbrushes and a hag reached out and said with a message so detailed i thought 0.97

00:08:42.140 does this hag work for this brand by the way who cares but they're like yeah the electronic

00:08:47.100 toothbrush you need is surrey right i reach out to surrey they're sending them very sleek

00:08:54.360 kind of gentrified electronic toothbrush you know they sell it at air one no you're joking

00:09:00.080 i'm not joking that is the toothbrush you've seen as an end cap an aisle cap 0.51

00:09:04.200 at air one holy shit i had no idea 40 days it was like in charge that's cool it was poog 0.93

00:09:11.420 you know 0.90

00:09:12.360 prophecies fulfilled

00:09:13.740 oh uh-huh

00:09:14.500 okay you going

00:09:15.260 what color toothbrush

00:09:16.640 you want

00:09:17.080 okay

00:09:17.380 me like so in the middle

00:09:19.400 of something right

00:09:19.980 but was still able

00:09:20.900 to take a quick glance

00:09:21.900 at the Surrey

00:09:22.480 that you linked to

00:09:23.420 and it's right back

00:09:24.340 winter fern 0.97

00:09:24.980 that's what

00:09:26.260 and that's what I wanted

00:09:27.100 I responded

00:09:27.780 two winter ferns please

00:09:28.880 I love it

00:09:30.000 Blueland also reached out

00:09:31.560 because I was begging

00:09:32.580 for Blueland

00:09:33.180 which is great too

00:09:33.800 you gotta send me

00:09:34.320 a Blueland

00:09:35.000 oh yeah

00:09:36.180 I meant to send you

00:09:37.400 I mean

00:09:37.700 I like it all

00:09:38.900 well I'll tell you

00:09:39.780 about Blueland

00:09:40.300 I've been using the dishwasher tablets.

00:09:42.360 As we all know, my life has changed now to being a dishwasher user.

00:09:46.680 Okay, so mine now.

00:09:47.380 You know, you can put other things in there too.

00:09:49.800 Like what?

00:09:50.820 Wait, let me look.

00:09:52.320 Because that's kind of exciting for you.

00:09:53.600 I'm just trying to think of other things that dishwasher can also clean.

00:09:56.840 What else does someone put in a dishwasher?

00:09:59.140 I mean, you know.

00:10:00.420 All right, well, like here's an example.

00:10:02.780 The scrub brush is used to clean your dishes.

00:10:05.900 Oh, interesting.

00:10:07.260 Okay, that is new information.

00:10:09.100 Or I like to throw the, like, the mesh drain, you know.

00:10:17.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the drain thing in there. 0.99

00:10:19.560 The drain thing that catches the shit. 0.99

00:10:21.640 Throw that in there, keep that nice and fresh. 0.99

00:10:24.320 Yeah, amazing.

00:10:25.460 And then I know there's other ones.

00:10:28.340 I had...

00:10:29.740 Do you sort your, like, do you put the forks in with the forks?

00:10:34.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:10:36.140 Wait, what do you mean?

00:10:37.100 so as you're loading utensils into the dishwasher right you just throw them in there

00:10:42.760 in the you just throw them wherever this this dishwasher has like a little thing where you put

00:10:47.840 a single utensil in like a hole it's like a holder so you like you can't just throw them in

00:10:53.340 unfortunately each one gets a whole you mean each one one one yeah each single fork yeah

00:10:57.940 gets like a holy holder is it challenging no does it knock have to knock in at both sides like

00:11:06.420 no it's just like a lot to ask it's kind of it's hard for me to describe i don't do well

00:11:12.480 with spatial configurations interesting i excel at abstract uh geometry um one thing i texted you

00:11:19.420 today and you kind of yeah you kind of helped me through it um yesterday and today shocking mood

00:11:25.820 danger wanting to rip people's heads off not yelling at anyone but just internal fury

00:11:30.440 everything being so hard where i go it's impossible just there's just insurmountable

00:11:38.400 tasks insurmountable admin um self-loathing and not being able to mail a single form

00:11:44.600 well yeah and being emailed every four days by a company hey can you get that form out

00:11:49.340 in the mail today a week later hey checking back on the form in the mail today i haven't

00:11:55.420 mailed things in years it's it's impossible you know we were sent something that i actually did

00:12:03.240 start using i just want to say and have had some success with which is what i think it might still 0.51

00:12:08.960 be in beta duck bill what the fuck is that we were sent this we each got an account okay and it 0.50

00:12:17.280 does tasks for you and i think the full version of it long term is you know someone signs up for 0.98

00:12:24.740 like I think like $99 a month or something okay I forget do your own research you know not that

00:12:29.580 here but and it's I think it's like just unlimited tasks okay so for example I've been testing the

00:12:37.040 system okay and you know you write in a little chat message like and I'm just like like so these

00:12:44.600 things that have been hanging over me like one of my little gimbals my dgi osmo gimbal camera that

00:12:50.760 has had a problem for like a long time i just like can't bring myself and i'm like and call

00:12:55.620 sammy's camera store and ask them if they will rehabilitate my osmo you know yeah and if not

00:13:01.400 what do i do and they did it they did the next thing i know they're like like ai did it well

00:13:07.540 this is a service so they've got like a team of no they got like a team of people slash ai is as

00:13:12.380 far as i can tell okay so they're like i think what they're doing is i think it's i'm going to

00:13:20.260 ask them how it works because that's the feeling I get so I'm like I'm like I so I literally had

00:13:24.840 to make doctor's appointments no okay and it worked and like annoy me like like they're texting

00:13:29.780 or like the messages is coming through the app and they're like they're like hey so like here

00:13:34.120 are two you know gynecologists you know you know and I'm like I'm like are they good okay and it's

00:13:40.020 like it's like this one you know is this this and this but some people there's been there are mixed

00:13:45.000 reviews when you look at it under da da da you know like but this other one you know he's been

00:13:49.020 he's been uh for 45 years and a lot of people seem to really like you know i'm like book it

00:13:54.260 okay okay so i've gone to one doctor's appointment i have two more on the books

00:13:59.860 good for you because of phone call avoidance that's okay so and they reached out to say

00:14:04.900 how's duck bill going and i'm like it's been seamlessly integrated into my life terrified

00:14:08.380 that like the membership's gonna like end on me i need before i fully tested thank you for i'm

00:14:14.340 writing down duck bill it's a huge ad um then i was like what else did i ask them to do i was like

00:14:19.820 trying to test the bounds i was like create a graphic for me like like utilizing the media

00:14:25.840 media um the brand bible of getting your knees well i guess that's the ai element like

00:14:30.780 texas i mean technically i don't know it seems like it i really don't know how it works yeah

00:14:37.440 they say because i know that there are humans i think they're called co-pilots or something

00:14:41.320 But I think it's, I'm not really sure what's going on.

00:14:45.180 I will report more, but I can't lie and say it hasn't helped me.

00:14:49.700 That's huge.

00:14:51.780 That's massive in my book.

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00:15:06.120 you're taking your towels you're throwing it in there with a hope for a brand new day a brand new

00:15:12.300 day of freshness and what do you get no they still don't smell fresh yeah you need a laundry detergent

00:15:20.920 that actually seems to have the intention of cleaning clothes it shouldn't be the case that

00:15:26.440 you have to choose between a laundry detergent that actually works and something heinous something

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00:18:21.220 I have a fixation on finding a protein powder that's tasty.

00:18:28.560 And I don't care if it's, I don't care what's in it.

00:18:32.620 Here's a question.

00:18:33.320 Why are you looking for protein?

00:18:36.260 Why am I looking for protein?

00:18:37.900 Because I'm obsessed with this.

00:18:39.420 I know it's all over, but 30 grams of protein in the morning.

00:18:43.300 I believe it.

00:18:44.380 I really feel a difference when I get the protein.

00:18:45.400 Where did you get this info?

00:18:46.940 Just the internet and a naturopath.

00:18:50.380 Interesting. 1.00

00:18:50.920 That women need 30 grams of protein in the morning. 1.00

00:18:55.820 I mean, you might want to do a little reading on Perfect Amino. 1.00

00:19:00.400 The powder?

00:19:01.080 Remember I told you that's the one that tells you, what is it?

00:19:04.400 perfect amino body health perfect amino that's what i'm on i've actually got an affiliate link

00:19:10.160 or or like a i'll use it because i need it drop that it tastes really bad and then i'll get

00:19:14.660 the taste is kind of i mean i don't mind it but you blend it into you adjust and stuff

00:19:19.120 no you actually don't because you have it plain okay because in water the idea of it is the yeah

00:19:26.240 amino acids it's the exact right ratio of amino acids okay the building blocks right it has like

00:19:32.120 all of them lined up you eat them without any other food so there's no tetris blocks left out

00:19:36.560 of the mix okay this is like the problem with other forms of protein so they're like according

00:19:40.940 to this you know guy whose pamphlet i read hang on i want to be clear you drink it in plain water

00:19:46.060 on an empty stomach yeah and then you can eat yeah how long have you been privately doing this

00:19:51.700 privately check the record i know how long i've been pushing i'm pushing it for ages well i fell

00:19:57.240 off for a little bit i sort of spaced out but um but probably several months i was so i like to use

00:20:04.540 it um astonished how much protein per serving i bought i paid out of pocket for the perfect

00:20:10.320 aminos reds the red powder yeah i remember that you were like there's no protein in that i don't

00:20:17.000 think no that that's what it is the protein is protein is built of amino acids okay okay this is

00:20:26.260 like the thing it's like there's a lot of myths out there about protein okay there's even a book

00:20:32.020 out there called like proteinaholics or whatever okay and it's like we have these ideas you know

00:20:37.320 you know the whole thing also like like we can't build muscle without

00:20:40.580 whatever eating like an animal's muscle and it's like it's like this is like you know plant-based

00:20:49.480 sort of information where they're like uh have you seen you know an elephant or whatever have

00:20:55.980 you seen totally the biggest strongest have you seen a cow what does it eat grass right right and

00:21:03.140 it's more muscular than you so so there's like this anyway perfect amino guy to cows yeah he

00:21:11.660 was searching for the perfect protein perfect amino because he was like a childhood vegan like

00:21:17.860 i want to be clear if perfect amino does not send a haul to us this will all be wiped from the

00:21:22.740 episode no see to it you can just yeah block out the brand name from anger until until it's

00:21:29.600 it's time um but i gotta get my energy i'm talking in this register and i want to apologize to 0.55

00:21:37.380 everyone um celsius sent us so i i i have um i'm back on celsius we got celsius based poop you guys

00:21:47.000 we got sent three pallets of celsius no no no no not pallets wait oh no oh no what for years

00:21:56.800 you've been saying pallets about things what's the word what's the word no no the word is right

00:22:02.660 oh but to me a pallet like like when they're shipping you know they're shipping something

00:22:08.460 right like product like massive amount of product right you're like saying pallets technically 0.98

00:22:12.280 pallets as far as i understand are like four and a half feet by four and a half feet oh shit

00:22:16.980 they're the wood slats okay i get it there's two layers you've seen them people make coffee 0.86

00:22:21.400 tables out of them the whole thing yeah so every time you've been like yeah i ordered a pallet of

00:22:27.120 you know mountain valley to my home or whatever i that's what i've been picturing and now i'm

00:22:31.100 realizing that what we got right was a small case a cardboard box 12 inches by eight of celsius

00:22:38.260 three of those generous amount yeah so all i'm saying is you're saying three pallets they might

00:22:45.900 be picturing something that's four feet by five feet when in fact it's eight inches by 12 inches

00:22:50.440 yeah that's my cardboard thing like if you got a 12 pack okay is it a 12 pack or is it a 24

00:22:57.080 yeah um i think it's actually 24 i think it's 24 hey yo four times six and kind of picturing

00:23:05.760 my mind i tried to do a little row of that i tried to do a basic multiplication the other day

00:23:09.860 i think it was what was it it was four times 21 maybe and i was trying to really visualize it

00:23:18.360 couldn't do it how'd you um let me see if i can do it right now let me see if i can do it right

00:23:23.580 now yeah four times 21 hang on but talk talk talk okay first i want to cheat the system and go what's

00:23:28.940 two times four eight is it okay here's my first guess here's my first guess hang on okay here's

00:23:34.320 my first guess what is it four times 21 okay hang on one second is it 84 do it out loud is it 84

00:23:42.320 no the whole point is to is it 84 yeah yes yes yes but wait do the thinking out loud let's try

00:23:48.380 another one two times 36 okay do it out loud don't whisper it this time okay okay so then i go

00:23:54.320 two times 36 it's 36 plus 36 so to carry the one 70 no okay did i get it

00:24:03.960 did i get it no i'm i'm horrified that you're so i mean this is just this is way but did i get it

00:24:11.420 i'm like and by the way i have my i have my own i have my own like you just did this wait you want

00:24:16.980 me to you want me to call it out spell out the system exactly what you're doing yeah what because

00:24:21.140 what did i give you what was the assignment two times 36 36 so i did six plus six is 12 i put a

00:24:26.900 two there i put a two there carried the one carrying a one but you're envisioning you're

00:24:33.680 i'm visualizing it three plus three and i feel like a genius i'm holding my head look at this

00:24:37.660 three plus three six plus one seven 72 wait yeah yeah but so give me one you did it you did it

00:24:47.960 With pencil and paper in your head is my point.

00:24:50.420 I did it in my head with pencil and paper in my head, yeah.

00:24:53.900 Yeah.

00:24:54.300 Or the other one I did differently, whatever one that was.

00:24:59.880 Yeah.

00:25:00.560 I felt like I was cheating the system.

00:25:02.700 It was, um, what was it?

00:25:07.200 This is, I can't understand.

00:25:10.000 Cheating the system, this is huge.

00:25:12.300 Okay, next four episodes are devoted to this.

00:25:15.480 numbers and how we deal with them in our head

00:25:17.940 cannot be overstated

00:25:19.900 as one of my primary interests.

00:25:21.520 Because I have my own

00:25:23.300 psychoses around these things, but I

00:25:25.500 become very conscious of them and try to fix them.

00:25:27.300 So I can also, you know, succeed at the SATs

00:25:30.340 because I look at these people around me

00:25:32.120 and I go, I don't believe you're

00:25:34.000 more intelligent than me.

00:25:36.280 I believe you locked in

00:25:38.320 on a very specific way of doing a problem

00:25:40.480 instead of 30 different ways of doing a problem.

00:25:42.780 And your limited

00:25:44.320 thinking is actually serving you now yeah right anyway okay so hold on will you will you talk

00:25:52.520 about how you did the other one what was it four times 21 so i saw four 21s in a row so all i have

00:26:00.480 to do is add up the twos that's eight and then there are the ones right there and it's four of

00:26:08.340 them so 84 that's a really easy one nice give me my one did did you see them i saw them write it

00:26:17.020 down this time so i don't forget i saw them stack okay and you saw and you saw the numbers like

00:26:22.600 written yep not not beans not you know not beans i saw the numbers all right nine times 36 oh i

00:26:31.400 like this a little bit of it and she wants to play tough like i i like that nine times 36 okay here

00:26:37.300 we go so this one i go crazy because i go it's not beans i can't stack them up i can't stack up

00:26:42.080 nine 36s that's too hard so what i'm gonna do is i do 36 times nine so nine times six by the way 0.86

00:26:47.900 already stumped completely fucking stumped on what nine times six is yeah let me or yeah nine times 0.67

00:26:55.580 six is not going down easy for me so wait but what i'm hearing and what i'm hearing i just want to 0.87

00:27:00.160 make sure are you doing it in your head again over a line are you putting nine on the bottom and 36 0.96

00:27:04.160 yeah nine times talking about who the fuck knows that 34 okay are you serious 0.98

00:27:10.680 i think that's from memorizing is that from like are you going back to childhood oh yeah 0.96

00:27:15.560 that's from memorizing yeah that's absolutely from memorizing so you're the language way

00:27:19.920 the multiplication table is is from memorizing i'm not i'm not doing the work not like seeing it

00:27:25.620 what yeah but what i could sit there and do if i really wanted to right is go like

00:27:30.200 because what were we talking about nine times six nine times six yeah really tough

00:27:35.820 but let's just play this out nine times six okay you know it's 54 now now what are you

00:27:41.700 gonna do with that well now i'm screwed what was the original question nine times 36 okay so

00:27:47.880 54 god this is hard i can't hold it in my head to the four goes down there 0.59

00:27:52.100 see yeah you're drawing i lost it again i lost it again yeah you're drawing in your head this is

00:27:58.020 the mistake well not no not a mistake but it's like i can't hold on it's like

00:28:02.960 and no one can i mean some people can i guess that but that's like a totally different skill

00:28:08.160 see what i'm saying yeah so i can't help but feel that you were robbed you know what i'm saying like

00:28:15.920 yeah like that wasn't the way to do it you're yeah there's a way there's a there's a now i do

00:28:23.180 feel like once you get out of school depending on kind of you know there can be a quick and

00:28:28.500 dirty fashion that develops that like isn't the best and you just but you're used to it so you do

00:28:33.680 it and I feel like I have some of those like like the options like like technically speaking what do

00:28:40.540 I do if right now I go nine times 36 now because they're listening there's like an inherent panic

00:28:45.400 and I'm self-conscious and so I don't know what I'd really do in life makes sense but but like

00:28:51.380 i'm i'm trying to you know like have an impressive version so let me like try to just like be real

00:28:55.700 right now if i'm like really quickly let me do it okay i'm like because i'm almost panicking and

00:29:00.420 starting to think of like what someone else might do yeah for example so nine times 36 right well

00:29:05.480 here's a question right it's like let me just go like rogue 10 times 10 times 36 you know what that

00:29:11.140 is 3600 baby right hmm 3600 what'd you say am i wrong 360 3600 3600 3600 am i wrong 0.90

00:29:21.120 fuck oh 3600 360 360 yeah no i know i know i know i didn't know by the way i thought i had 0.92

00:29:32.040 right hang on hang on 360 times 10 is three okay let's wait let's play this out hold on hold on 0.99

00:29:42.700 This is going to be huge for you.

00:29:43.860 Okay.

00:29:44.180 36 times 10.

00:29:47.060 360.

00:29:48.580 Yeah.

00:29:49.420 Okay.

00:29:49.880 360 times 10.

00:29:51.680 3600.

00:29:54.140 Okay.

00:29:55.420 3600 times 10.

00:29:58.120 Oh, you want to play hardball?

00:30:00.320 360,000.

00:30:02.800 No.

00:30:03.960 Okay.

00:30:07.200 So I just said, what did I say?

00:30:09.080 3600, right?

00:30:10.840 Times 10.

00:30:11.360 hang on okay three three three feel like i lost it three thousand six hundred right

00:30:18.320 times did you notice a pattern with the other two yeah more zeros what was it adding zero

00:30:24.640 no but what was it they got it got bigger yeah yeah by a hundred ish no no no don't answer what

00:30:33.600 you think is right just just just just trust yourself got bigger with zero 36 right times 10

00:30:38.140 Add a zero.

00:30:38.860 36 times 10.

00:30:40.040 Two zeros.

00:30:40.740 Yeah.

00:30:41.440 Oh, okay.

00:30:42.560 And then how many zeros?

00:30:44.720 Three zeros.

00:30:47.120 And on we go.

00:30:48.980 So we become millionaires.

00:30:50.080 And so let's see if you can get the answer now.

00:30:51.980 Okay, what's the question?

00:30:54.100 3,600 times 10.

00:31:00.620 It's not 360,000?

00:31:03.680 No, hold on.

00:31:04.860 3,600.

00:31:05.660 Wait, wait, wait.

00:31:06.340 that was what we started with times 10 okay okay so

00:31:09.980 wait is it a random number like 38 oh wait

00:31:19.440 no hold on wait i want to figure it out 360 body what was the question 3600 times 10

00:31:27.560 yeah and do you have a pencil no i'm using my finger 3600 times 10

00:31:35.480 Uh-huh. And what do we do when we're timesing by 10? What do we learn we do?

00:31:40.660 I have a zero.

00:31:41.680 You had it before. Yes. So, so now I'm going to tell you something. I know how your brain is.

00:31:46.820 36,000?

00:31:48.000 Yes.

00:31:48.740 Yes. Thank God. Okay.

00:31:50.520 Yeah.

00:31:51.220 Okay, cool.

00:31:51.980 Okay. 1.00

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00:34:25.900 malibu.com now i would argue because those numbers as artists okay have emotional qualities to them

00:34:41.300 and i would say 3600 even has a different quality than 3600 right oh yeah when articulated even

00:34:48.020 though they're saying 300 sexy 3600 is you're in the mud and you're counting pennies interesting

00:34:55.400 well 1500 or 1500 i prefer it really depends on the context right yeah yeah it's like we're not

00:35:04.420 overselling it like i said 1k the other day about something and sexy people were like i've never

00:35:11.280 heard versus a thousand anyone one k because one k it's a situation i was like they're giving me

00:35:21.420 one k it was poverty one k it's like it's like really amazing it makes one k it's like one k

00:35:27.340 you know what i mean like because people people well it's like if you're talking k if you're

00:35:32.540 talking k you're talking big k's why are we talking about k we're talking to thousands

00:35:35.940 people yeah you're like 850k versus 1k like 10k well here's what'll blow your mind yeah a million

00:35:42.840 dollars well here we go now you want to play the game see kate this is where she gets real okay

00:35:47.700 okay okay talking about like gonna buy a house or whatever yeah okay we're playing this out

00:35:53.420 now what i wanted to say and what i wanted to offer you is that when you're sitting there with

00:35:59.920 3,600, right? What are you picturing in your head? 3,600 or no? 3,600. Yeah. And we're going to add a

00:36:09.440 zero, right? That whole game we were playing for a few minutes, right? Add a zero. Yeah. And that

00:36:14.140 was stopping you. Something was not computing there, right? And it's almost like, I believe

00:36:19.040 it's because in your head, you have the shape of like 3,600, right? And the 600 is like this block

00:36:25.780 on the side there and when you try to add a zero to it doesn't something like fuck up in your head

00:36:30.980 right yeah it doesn't seem right the zeros all blur together and it's because we when we quote 0.95

00:36:37.460 add a zero we usually have to move the fucking comma over yeah the comma always sucks okay so 0.85

00:36:44.860 you're not so i was going to tell you if you were going to write it down in you know with your 0.97

00:36:49.380 finger don't do commas i was gonna say that's great that's a great get rid of it that's a great

00:36:53.300 tip and then stare at it and go if i was looking at this number where would i put the comma okay

00:36:57.040 now i know how to say it that's good that's good but like so like i panic right in the moment i go

00:37:02.960 nine times 36 right and i start to go well what if i did 10 times 36 in this experiment

00:37:08.040 right that's 360 right and then i go and then i could subtract 136 from that yeah that's good

00:37:13.620 that's good okay but i hate subtraction but we'll talk about that right so but that's not very

00:37:17.660 pleasant right that's sort of like oh well subtraction is crazy because where does it start

00:37:21.300 okay this is a big question 12 minus 4 arguably I got it stay with me yeah um I know exactly what

00:37:30.760 your issue here is is it eight is the answer okay okay what was the question again yeah where does

00:37:38.040 it start I forgot where we were coming from oh 12 minus 4 like 12 minus 4 it's a whole thing I know

00:37:42.660 exactly you get it right yeah I know before you're saying anything I know exactly what you mean I 0.84

00:37:47.880 okay and this is and this is this is once again this is i will argue this shit for the rest of 0.85

00:37:52.300 my life because this is my personal chip on my shoulder okay you and i are suffering as a result 0.92

00:37:57.200 of our genius i believe it i love this no thank you okay okay so there's there's two things going

00:38:02.440 on with this there's the number line right there's this line and along the way there are these

00:38:08.420 demarcations almost of of what 12 is right yeah yeah and it's confusing because it's like

00:38:13.800 started zero in the first line you get one and then you get two but how is that a quantity like

00:38:19.980 if you had 12 beans it's confusing because a bean takes up space where a line is like a point along

00:38:24.480 yeah point along the line yeah okay it's it's it's it's off it's like there was this brain teaser

00:38:29.800 about books on a shelf and how many you could fit in a certain space and there was like something 0.59

00:38:35.180 about that it was fucked up and it tricked this exact part of the brain the point is 0.60

00:38:39.800 so yeah you're going where to the start at the end of a 12 kind of yes exactly yeah okay or 0.97

00:38:47.160 sort of at the beginning of the demarcation totally i believe you have a number line

00:38:52.500 but instead of it being a single line with with marks you have this you're combining the two

00:38:59.900 things into one thing and you have almost a line but in that line you have where 12 is you have

00:39:05.360 a block that takes up space it's like so it's like where where within

00:39:12.000 it's almost like 12 minus 12 okay

00:39:17.240 would would almost trick you like yeah exactly well is there one left almost like there it is

00:39:26.540 yeah no i mean i mean zero to one you want to talk about zero to one when does one start yeah

00:39:32.400 the second after zero you know what i mean like or a little space here's a zero this is exactly it

00:39:39.940 this is one this is i feel so seen i feel so seen kate i know this is like i could weep okay i feel

00:39:49.200 it because there are people who have to cry okay there are people like there are people who could

00:39:57.380 hear this okay yeah and and be astounded okay in in like horror by our confusion yeah by

00:40:08.120 questioning this yeah or like not understanding you know they would perceive um an absence of

00:40:15.320 brain power in favor of an excess dare you say yeah i'm not saying everyone who can who can do

00:40:21.580 um you know because this can be a stigma too like oh you're gonna you're good at math so like you

00:40:26.680 i have no soul or something you know i'm not yeah we're not talking about that okay please yeah yeah

00:40:30.980 yeah okay this is huge so let's just stay with this this is worth nine episodes don't you dare

00:40:37.120 leave it okay and trust me i know what's good and what's good okay talk so so you're going

00:40:43.200 what's the space between zero and one right uh-huh when does one start so if you're at zero

00:40:50.460 okay and now you are and now are you on a number line kind of are you in a line yeah i'm kind of

00:40:54.980 seeing like i can i get really confused too like rulers like 11 inches like like yeah like the

00:41:02.200 little like zeros at the end right yeah yeah exactly like on a zero yeah exactly the end of

00:41:07.280 the ruler what's what's on the other end at the end of the row well here we go are you ready see

00:41:12.320 this is education because this is what if a child if you pose that question okay then it would be

00:41:18.980 time for the unit where we go into negative numbers okay yeah because you'd actually ask

00:41:24.260 the question and you've produced a there's an absence what what could it be yeah and then they

00:41:31.000 would give you the answer and you would you go yes that does solve it i believe okay and it's like

00:41:36.040 so like on the ruler right be like two one and then zero you're at the end of the ruler and

00:41:41.360 you're saying what's beyond yeah negative one yeah negative two right right right into hell

00:41:49.040 but the yeah it's like or it's like no hey come from who cares right four hours yeah what's four

00:41:56.080 hours six to nine no no that's wrong six to ten that's three kate same issue right same issue 0.99

00:42:03.560 exactly okay so when does it start is a big fucker okay with this this shit okay time well 0.99

00:42:11.620 are you ready when to get really fucked up i mean the fact that time is on the the 60 oh instead of 0.99

00:42:17.380 on the 100 oh my god they fucked us with that like the fact that it's not it's not 75 and time 0.98

00:42:23.660 to go to dinner because dinner's at seven um it's not 675 because dinner's at that is 600 at 700 0.95

00:42:30.060 by the way straight up mean the 680 isn't a time come over at 680 yeah well it's 680 it'll take 10

00:42:37.460 minutes to walk there so we're fine because then we'll have another 10 minutes yeah exactly okay

00:42:42.800 okay okay just checking in fact we just start doing that we just start doing that

00:42:46.100 right now it's you know what time it is right now 495 exactly yeah actually it's 494 there

00:42:54.800 are times where i'll apply the time thing to i'll accidentally apply the time thing to

00:43:00.500 just regular quantity yeah where i'm like you know i'm like almost like oh like you know you

00:43:08.260 gave me 30 30 beans out of the entire thing of beans there must be 30 left i mean that's not

00:43:14.560 quite it but i know it's happened i know they've been so so here's a huge one that is is just you

00:43:22.040 know this is just language but three day like three days before your appointment stop you know

00:43:28.000 uh putting retinol on your face okay what do you mean three days yeah if it's on friday 24 hours

00:43:35.240 yeah or are we counting number line versus quantity appears yet again it's so crazy the

00:43:43.140 hours you're asleep still count all right six times 15 okay so you know what i wanted to do

00:43:48.440 well five times 15 that's easier so here's my question okay okay that's because you're drawing

00:43:54.660 it right yeah wait wait wait i have to write down what the what the problem i've posed is i'm not

00:44:01.580 I'm not doing the math, okay?

00:44:02.860 Is 5 times 15 75?

00:44:06.100 That's my first question.

00:44:10.800 So 5 times 15 is 75.

00:44:13.100 Couldn't I just add 6?

00:44:14.860 78, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81.

00:44:18.720 Is the answer 81?

00:44:20.340 So you added 6 instead of adding another 15.

00:44:23.580 You forgot we were counting 15s.

00:44:25.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:27.080 Right, so let me just write down the original question.

00:44:28.940 The original question was 6 times 15, right?

00:44:30.680 Okay, okay.

00:44:31.200 so you were going for whatever reason five times 15 feels easier to go five times 15 75 yeah so

00:44:37.420 could i add now why why oh yeah could i add 10 10 to what oh wait 75 85 is the answer 85

00:44:45.060 if it is that's crazy is it 85 um wait wait hold on i'm panicking wait what was the original

00:44:52.140 question i don't know was it five times 15 no no no wait wait what was it

00:44:57.740 oh wait wait hold on you had a six six times 15 was the original question right

00:45:04.300 no no right yes yes yes is it is the answer six times 15

00:45:09.580 well here's the thing here's the thing okay let me just before before we go there can i just do

00:45:17.280 what i'm doing in my head maybe is it and i'm hoping the answer i'm hoping the question was

00:45:20.860 six 15 but i mean six times 15 i think it was yeah it was because you then said five times

00:45:25.920 15 would be easier and then you tried to add a six to it to bring us around home at the end

00:45:30.760 when you needed to add a 15 to it but you added six so therefore there's nine more there's nine

00:45:38.940 more you left on the table okay i think so what was your original uh what was your what was your

00:45:43.760 original answer i got excited i'm just joking this is obviously not the worst was it 80 but

00:45:49.160 No, there's no way it's a round number.

00:45:50.080 If it's six times 15, okay, one know what I do?

00:45:55.540 So six times 15, I go, we got 10s and we got 5s, right?

00:46:00.140 I go six times 10 gets me to 60.

00:46:02.940 Oh, that's good.

00:46:04.440 And then I go six times 5 is 30.

00:46:07.580 And now we're at 90.

00:46:09.060 The answer is 90?

00:46:10.300 No way.

00:46:11.780 That's crazy.

00:46:12.940 Did not see that one coming.

00:46:13.900 so here's the other thing i want to point out really quick okay you still with me

00:46:22.940 all right you ready because when you said is it 81 or whatever you said okay

00:46:30.460 by the way what about when we're doing the 25 and you were like you're like is it like like

00:46:36.780 or like we were doing we were doing 36 times 10 times 100 whatever and then you were like 0.85

00:46:42.280 is something random like 38 hysterical okay but so you're like doing all this shit in your head 0.95

00:46:52.160 and you're like 81 and i think one of your issues right yeah would be a block if i were your teacher 0.95

00:46:57.000 yeah would be you you go impatient and you hope that maybe you've landed on it yeah totally i get

00:47:02.860 very impatient you want the answer is that it though yeah yeah and if it's it even though you

00:47:07.300 don't quite know why it's it you let go i'm done yeah totally totally totally guilty as charged

00:47:15.300 but when we're talking about six times 15 i think is what we're talking about right

00:47:19.820 and so and you go 81 okay what i think you're missing is that

00:47:25.040 however many 15s you add up you're always going to be on a five or a zero do you know what i'm

00:47:34.060 talking about or not really so 15 plus 15 i got this 30 one of my favorites actually 15 plus 15

00:47:42.400 has always been a real anchor for me yeah yeah i wonder if that's because of the hours that's why

00:47:49.360 quarter hour half hour okay it feels familiar so 15 so so 15 plus 15 30 right now if you had to add

00:47:58.060 another 15 of that what's happening here okay another 15 five years a five magically appears

00:48:04.480 at the bottom would you ask 15 what was it 30 plus 15 i want to i i want to move you i want

00:48:16.380 to move you away from drawing uh doing the arithmetic you were asking 15 plus 30 conceptually

00:48:21.820 is that the question yeah yeah okay then i would go at 45 it's actually a really easy one

00:48:30.020 okay because because you're at a half hour you're at a half hour and you're gonna add 15 minutes

00:48:35.360 right you know you're at 45 right yeah so did you ever learn like the multiples did you ever

00:48:44.720 learn the multiples like we're gonna do multiples of five five ten fifteen twenty twenty five thirty

00:48:51.960 thirty five forty forty five fifty of course that's a song and dance from the olden days

00:48:57.820 that you could you could sing yeah yeah could you do multiples of of two probably when i remember

00:49:05.540 something equals 81 is eight times nine 81 yes that one always stuck in there wait

00:49:11.960 yeah so so to me those are like those multiples are like their own just story that absent of

00:49:18.880 meaning they hold like you kind of get a vibe for them so i've always felt like um like

00:49:25.040 uh there's there's some that just work for me and some that don't

00:49:28.260 but kate okay could you do let's do multiples of 15 just for a second

00:49:36.100 15 30 comes next if you had another 15 30 then 45 another 15 is it see i want oh 45 60

00:49:49.780 yeah six five no no um 60 70 so let's start beginning to feel it 50 wait wait 15

00:49:59.760 15, 30, 45, 60. Picture it. Are you saying words or are you picturing it visually at all?

00:50:08.880 75. 80. Wait, you're doing multiples of five.

00:50:13.540 Wait, 75, 90, 75, 90. Right? 75 goes to 90. 60. Oh, wait, multiples of 15. So 60 goes

00:50:27.320 to 75 goes to 90 i got it wait so 105 no 110 no no no can't be a 105 105 it's what were you doing

00:50:40.480 15 30 45 60 um 75 90 uh 105 see this is where it starts to get a little whack

00:50:55.860 this is where things start to go real funky all right so let's just let's just take it back a

00:51:03.100 okay multiples of 12

00:51:05.320 12

00:51:08.780 oh I'm starting to shut down math wise

00:51:11.260 all right we'll move off

00:51:13.320 in one second but let's just push through

00:51:14.800 for a second as an experiment

00:51:17.020 12

00:51:17.800 12 to 24 is a classic

00:51:20.460 a classic

00:51:21.760 then I start to get

00:51:25.020 into some troubled waters

00:51:26.960 yeah

00:51:27.260 so then you add another 12 to 24

00:51:31.180 how would you approach that

00:51:32.980 not drawing not drawing conceptually the meaning of it i go okay there's 24 beans there's 12 beans

00:51:40.720 so 34 mm-hmm what was the question 10 more right we're adding 12 to 24 yeah okay okay okay and you

00:51:50.460 added 10 and you got to 34 i can't you know it's like i can tell this is good for my brain

00:51:56.680 and it hurts you can feel it hurting it hurts all right we'll move on you did great today

00:52:03.160 and tell me what 24 plus 12 is tell me what 24 plus 12 is so i'm not going to give you the answer

00:52:09.700 okay why walk me through it i'm going to take you through it according to your i'm going to

00:52:14.820 take you through it it's not just memorization okay i got it i got i can do this i can do this

00:52:19.820 36 i know you got it yep 36 and by the way i knew that and inherently i knew that

00:52:25.860 right in that other way but here's the thing i was trying to do it raw this this you'll like this

00:52:30.080 okay now you're in 36 and let's say you're gonna add another 12 no no because you got in this 0.69

00:52:34.320 habit of adding 10 plus 2 i think you'll be able to fucking knock this out okay for you'll be good 0.66

00:52:39.380 for a couple are you ready check this out okay so 24 you added 10 plus 2 right yeah you added 0.93

00:52:46.080 the 10 and the 2 24 to 34 plus 2 6 right you got to 36 just stay with me there's the last one i

00:52:53.880 swear okay because this could be breakthrough okay okay if you have 36 lock into 36 feel 36

00:53:00.460 okay picturing it you can't forget it okay you're gonna add 12 to that using the same strategy

00:53:05.900 so you got from 24 to 36 is it 68 you got from wait wait wait 30 what did i get okay kate you're

00:53:15.800 doing really good okay but but you're really close okay but because the eight is correct

00:53:20.700 this is what i'm saying okay okay so so you're at 36 you're gonna add 10 and then and then add two

00:53:26.600 36 you go 48 what's the two is 48 yes and then let's say you had to do it again oh you said

00:53:33.720 that was the last one 12 but just because you're learning wait one second so you're at 48 right

00:53:39.680 and i go add 12 now it's gonna go crazy i know i know but don't panic i know don't panic okay

00:53:47.500 just try it for a second so we're at 48 48 plus 12 50 there's a five there somewhere wait wait

00:53:56.020 48 you're at 48 zero okay you're in 1948 the year is 1948 that helps that helps that helps

00:54:02.860 okay and 12 years later but that's cheating okay it's like 10 years later and two years later no

00:54:07.720 it's not okay 10 years into 60 okay so hold on no what was 1948 plus 10 right 58 you got to what

00:54:21.160 58 plus 2 60 1960 I did get it yes god that was hard thank you you're a really sweet tutor

00:54:30.520 I think you learned a lot you're a really sweet tutor wow wow

00:54:35.660 Wow.

00:54:38.380 I mean, imagine I was satisfied if that was my job.

00:54:41.760 I'd go home.

00:54:42.820 I'd have to dinner and I'm like, she was right there.

00:54:45.740 Except for the panic.

00:54:50.420 She's got it.

00:54:52.760 You were really, I felt in that moment like you really knew I could get it

00:54:58.340 and I didn't feel shame.

00:55:00.280 well that's that's 100 percent essential um because you shouldn't because i know

00:55:10.560 you're doing things in your mind i i can guess some of them because some of them are

00:55:15.240 how i think i was like that's why i was like we're gonna go for gold here because this one's gonna 0.98

00:55:22.300 when you're gonna add two you're gonna be at a zero you're gonna be at the the fucking borderline 1.00

00:55:26.640 here yeah but you fucking did it your your mind it's it's just extra it's a fucking you got 1.00

00:55:35.300 we're gonna heal the fucking nation yeah we're gonna heal the babe i mean 1.00

00:55:41.100 that really felt i feel electrified first of all by no no by the actual i really feel like that 0.97

00:55:51.380 oh yeah and and like i'm speaking to you because i am you like i just i'm you plus

00:56:00.760 a burning desire to like you were able to at some point be like lol it doesn't matter 0.90

00:56:09.300 right yeah yeah totally i don't need to show fucking timmy yeah yeah so i need need to show 0.85

00:56:18.580 timmy you know so i i live this dual existence of like i'm both you and i'm on the other side of 0.95

00:56:26.120 i don't know i've got one foot in one foot out yeah it's interesting yeah

00:56:31.220 and you know in some ways i i envy you you know i just shut it out yeah for not needing to

00:56:40.240 master something just to prove to the self you know that yeah i don't struggle with that i'd say

00:56:48.580 to a fault perhaps

00:56:50.280 okay well

00:56:54.780 that was a real

00:56:56.160 that was a real challenge and I love you for it

00:56:58.460 I love you

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - August 11, 2026

A Zero Involved (RE-RELEASE)

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