Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - June 03, 2025


AI Betrayed Me

Topics
A Pat and a Spat High Stakes Masculine

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Length

50 minutes

Words per minute

193.55

Word count

9,801

Sentence count

295

Harmful content

Misogyny

18

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Toxicity

96

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Hate speech

63

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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 two best friends both alike in dignity nurturing phantoms and courting the muse
00:00:07.320 the hag divines when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves
00:00:13.340 to seek but never to find it was berlant and novak the whole time are we live if it's any
00:00:21.320 consolation to my rude delay i am in a great poog space oh hell yeah all right all is well i just
00:00:29.480 I just all I seek in this life is understanding do you see what I'm saying no no I completely
00:00:33.420 I completely understand and I'm sorry look I'm experimenting with with creating a bolero out
00:00:38.900 of your own sweater did you see I'm wearing a sweater I tucked it around the neck oh my god
00:00:42.600 okay okay I'm making my random question is yeah first of all devastated I just want to say Kate
00:00:49.660 I see received a package from say sigh and I don't think I've seen any packages from them for years
00:00:58.540 okay okay i need to i need to reach out because i don't know how that's i i believe you completely
00:01:03.000 but i'm like i don't know how that's possible like it has to be a mistake you know what maybe
00:01:06.520 it is maybe they got confused because i had to change my address for my old house
00:01:10.740 interesting so maybe they thought that like everything i i don't know no no i know i just
00:01:18.500 top of the morning too yeah what did you get from uh say i'm just curious well take your time
00:01:26.620 classic case doesn't it seem like swallowing should take swallowing food should take oh my
00:01:31.800 god i have annie write this down okay i i'm fully going using our producer now okay because i can't
00:01:38.140 executive function write down what happened to me in a restaurant regarding speed of eating
00:01:43.160 i'll remember i'll just add it to my notes um all right great i guess i i can have a pen too
00:01:49.240 but jacqueline i meant to tell you if it's any consolation what i got from say i literally just
00:01:55.080 gave immediately to my dad's nurse. Like it wasn't good. You'll be glad to know. I didn't
00:01:59.980 pretend that I bought it. I told her it was free. Good girl. Good girl. But if it's any
00:02:04.480 consolation, the colors were completely wrong for our complexion. There's no way. It was like
00:02:09.000 shocking orange, like, like blood. Like I literally was just like, like, this is not
00:02:14.260 even like worth playing with. So if that's any consolation, but we'll, we'll figure it out.
00:02:18.520 I mean, cause frankly, I'm interested. Are you laughing? I'm, I'm interested in orange.
00:02:25.080 No, no, no.
00:02:26.660 And I love say.
00:02:27.960 I really do love the talk.
00:02:29.740 Okay.
00:02:30.580 Okay.
00:02:30.800 First of all, I'm having a full...
00:02:32.920 Okay.
00:02:33.140 Well, first of all, I want to say something.
00:02:35.400 I'm back to mornings are huge.
00:02:36.880 And I know this is every few whatever, but...
00:02:39.840 Yeah.
00:02:40.140 Yeah.
00:02:40.520 Okay.
00:02:40.960 I have an announcement.
00:02:42.600 So why was I happy yesterday? 0.97
00:02:44.140 Because I thought we were at fuck the day, you'll recall. 0.98
00:02:45.540 No, no. 1.00
00:02:45.840 Fuck the day. 1.00
00:02:46.320 And I was pretty excited about it. 1.00
00:02:46.900 No, fuck the day is major, but... 0.99
00:02:48.220 Oh my God. 0.99
00:02:48.500 I have so much to tell you. 0.93
00:02:49.220 It's actually obscene.
00:02:50.340 Okay.
00:02:50.520 This is great.
00:02:51.080 Okay.
00:02:51.300 First of all, Jonathan, this was fun to me.
00:02:53.920 Yesterday. 0.94
00:02:54.240 i'm back on instagram you know it's it's fucked i bricked the other day it was great i'm not 0.90
00:02:59.400 ready to make the full transfer to the light phone i'm going to in june here's my point 0.99
00:03:02.700 yesterday eyes doll eyes basically opening i get fed this woman on a vibration plate 0.96
00:03:10.040 and she's like yeah stagnant is like is like stagnant lymph is like the cause of brain fog 0.99
00:03:15.900 and like anxiety and and also you know whatever and yeah she's on this vibration plate and she's
00:03:23.060 like i have been using this for a year i don't go a day without it like i swear by it because our
00:03:29.120 ancestors of course stood on rocks that were in the honey like i wait for them i wait for them to
00:03:35.240 create the um the you know what i mean yeah of course the neanderthal argument yeah of course
00:03:40.820 anyway go on for the mechanical like literally comment vibe to like get which vibration plate
00:03:46.920 i like i log into the poog account so it's not to humiliate myself i comment vibe i get the
00:03:51.580 vibration plate it's 85 literally get out of the pook account that is run by someone else now
00:03:58.060 why you go in there okay just it's just not it can't get you need a fifth account like me okay
00:04:04.040 you need you need a lot of different accounts for different interests it's just you're going
00:04:08.220 to confuse matters for the people who are running it okay give it anyway go on go on literally 0.65
00:04:12.940 amazon what am i gonna tell you same day delivery i can't believe by the way you wanted her wreck
00:04:18.120 you didn't go i want a vibration plate you actually commented whatever it was salmon okay
00:04:22.300 no no i literally did it because because i looked at all the other it's unbelievable that you
00:04:27.840 remember me so salmon it's un-fucking-believable so i so i went to the other i did like the most 0.92
00:04:33.280 cursory google some of them are you know 1100 right i was like fuck no and then some are 300 0.86
00:04:40.660 i went honestly no not for my experiment i go to the one that she likes 85 i look at reviews it's
00:04:46.760 reviewed a lot of five-star reviews okay and when you say a lot greater than a thousand yeah
00:04:53.360 i checked i know i could go back i know you didn't check enough that i go that's the thing
00:04:58.620 is i just wanted to buy i just wanted it so but you know i buy things based on my own faith all
00:05:04.360 the time my own ability to look at a product image a description and say say i how about i be the
00:05:12.140 first yeah it's got to be the courage exactly well my realization that who wants to be our guinea pig
00:05:18.220 i know i know such a huge language of the 90s but anyway go on well you know what's funny is just
00:05:25.440 speaking of low reviews i realized and actually didn't share with my partner maybe now they're
00:05:29.400 here and they'll overhear me say that i booked an airbnb in rome and i was like the reviews are
00:05:34.540 great and then when i got there i was like okay like it was like cheap in an amazing area but
00:05:39.220 like definitely we were only there for two nights and i was like good you know like i couldn't last
00:05:42.960 a third you know just a little too and um and then i realized eight reviews like it had so
00:05:50.660 i was like oh no sometimes you can go it'll say you can go to the person who's listed it and they
00:05:57.180 have like several other airbnbs and then those are all really good and you go all right they know
00:06:01.380 what they're doing they're launching one at a lower price point but you know you should have
00:06:04.740 done is I mean I stayed at a couple airbnbs in Rome like it'd be kind of cozy you know what I
00:06:10.000 mean oh I stayed at a great airbnb probably years ago talk about airbnb I'm in one right now hey
00:06:14.740 but wait I'm sorry I keep getting off at the point is the vibration plate arrived
00:06:18.600 yesterday I stand on it only a few minutes right and I'm like this is my new life I was like I'm
00:06:23.820 just going to commit to a weak vibration plate every morning so I'm on the vibe I'm on the vibe
00:06:28.120 plate here are the other things that happened yesterday I went on a walk I took saffron I
00:06:34.680 took a capsule I took a pill of saffron and then it's kind of the end of the day and I'm going
00:06:39.980 and I had I had a matcha that was quite strong I felt a little like high on it like unusually so
00:06:44.500 and I was but I felt good I was elated I go why do I feel calm why why do I feel peaceful why didn't
00:06:50.700 the day overwhelm me why why was I able to I had I thought of you Jacqueline because you know I'm
00:06:55.520 touring and I was like holy shit I literally haven't booked five flights I haven't booked
00:07:00.160 four hotels i'm like have to be there in two weeks like what i'm looking at prices i'm going
00:07:05.100 literally i do it the day before thank you yeah sometimes same day i sat down it took me three
00:07:10.340 hours of focused attention it took me a full three hours but i did it and then i was like
00:07:16.420 was it the saffron was it the vibration plate why was i so able well that's interesting you say that
00:07:23.000 because i mean could one saffron pill do it saffron because in in crocus sativus l because 0.95
00:07:31.380 we'll be getting into this later what the fuck is that okay stasis thesis world we're oh yeah 0.88
00:07:36.140 we've been begging saffron is in this and this is one of the things that you're supposed to add to 0.98
00:07:41.780 your stimulant if you take one and i'm still experimenting with whether these do it or not
00:07:47.900 What did you just shake?
00:07:49.100 What was that?
00:07:49.640 What did you shake?
00:07:50.780 This is the Vyvanse that I continually, I wrestle with. 0.97
00:07:56.000 Do you help me?
00:07:56.900 Do you hurt me?
00:07:58.360 Is it a matter of dose?
00:08:00.640 Too little, not enough?
00:08:02.480 Oh, yeah.
00:08:04.380 Is it?
00:08:04.720 Well.
00:08:05.120 You know, I don't know.
00:08:06.340 So I really, I really don't know.
00:08:07.640 I really, I really can't tell.
00:08:09.060 Well, it was the classic thing.
00:08:10.160 It's hyper-focused either way.
00:08:12.320 But, but I was like, yesterday was just, why?
00:08:15.280 and again i'm blessed so you think it was the lymph moving but i was like i just like what was
00:08:21.540 it and then but then last night and you know how i am i get very obsessive around sleep and am i
00:08:27.020 getting enough sleep and oh god and i was like went to bed late because i was up late doing the
00:08:31.540 booking and then kind of up in the night not bad but somehow i pushed through and i go i woke up
00:08:38.100 and i said i got out of the house early whatever who cares but the point is i was out of the house
00:08:42.180 early never have i been like like 8 30 down like in like the community okay ran into people neighbor
00:08:49.520 with the dog ran into now this is huge as we all know my dentist bought me uggs because of my okay
00:08:55.100 and pants yeah i don't know if we knew about the uggs all right okay so i meaning to say i got a
00:09:02.200 gift card for my dentist for being such a loyal customer again no no this is the same one and
00:09:07.380 there were pull on the wool pants I wanted and they were on the north to Nordstrom's but the
00:09:12.040 Nordstrom's was out of stock the point is I went in person to the Grove to the Ugg store this is
00:09:17.760 last Christmas amazing man helped me with the Uggs just we all remember it was on the Christmas list
00:09:23.280 yeah yeah the short I never got any this guy was I mean I never purchased them yeah yeah this guy
00:09:28.620 was electric months pass I'm back at the Grove looking at Nordstrom I try on shoes I go oh I was
00:09:34.240 like you helped me buy some you're like you helped me out when i was buying uggs like he of course
00:09:37.660 looked at me he's like he's like oh my god i'm sorry i just you know i work there's so many
00:09:41.040 people in here i don't remember i was like of course but i was like i love that guy and it's 0.90
00:09:44.500 something about him i was like i love that guy fucking today 8 15 a.m whatever he's walking 0.93
00:09:51.480 blocks from me and i was like sorry excuse me are you are you at nordstrom's he goes yeah i was like 0.98
00:09:57.740 you stole my uggs we shake hands he lives right here i took my son to school unbelievable well
00:10:03.140 let me know if you're in this i mean you know for me that's there's no drug that can give you that
00:10:08.600 high and then um ran into andy blitz shout out to andy blitz hysterical comedian comedian i know
00:10:15.160 i think i've quoted his joke before about how you can tell that the moon landing was faked
00:10:20.100 he says in the background in the sky full moon
00:10:23.260 that's really good yeah he's genius but then i didn't know oh he lives my neighborhood
00:10:29.620 oh my god and then i'm on a ramp going this is how you become part of a name of a community
00:10:34.180 this is how you're supposed to be out in the village it am anyway it was huge and but the
00:10:39.960 saffron i'm gonna i'm about to pop one in fact i'm tempted to get up and go over there but i'll
00:10:45.140 wait till after the episode we got sent the fullest saffron pills um i'm actually taking
00:10:51.400 my stasis right now without stimulant that's interesting um yeah remember i was convinced
00:10:59.060 but did you take it all
00:11:00.520 no I forgot
00:11:02.120 within minutes
00:11:02.740 that I owned it
00:11:03.400 I forgot
00:11:04.180 it's expired
00:11:04.720 but I just figured
00:11:05.400 whatever
00:11:05.740 can't be that
00:11:06.760 you know
00:11:07.360 I'm sure it's still
00:11:08.080 I'm sure the efficacy
00:11:09.080 is still there
00:11:09.580 and then I got fed
00:11:10.980 brandy on Instagram
00:11:12.280 Khloe Kardashian
00:11:13.200 talking about Saffron
00:11:14.180 and being like
00:11:14.640 and she's in some like 1.00
00:11:16.120 idiots interviewing her 1.00
00:11:16.940 or whatever 1.00
00:11:17.200 and they're like
00:11:18.300 well you know
00:11:18.960 it's a
00:11:19.720 the research
00:11:20.680 it's like
00:11:22.040 it's as
00:11:22.740 the research
00:11:23.540 it's as effective
00:11:24.340 as an SSRI
00:11:25.540 or whatever
00:11:26.000 and then she
00:11:27.000 she said the name
00:11:28.220 she was like
00:11:29.060 happy saffron and it like clicked in my head happy saffron and then i went on and i saw it online and
00:11:33.940 there it's called happy saffron plus you mean no it's not her brand oh that's it's like brain md
00:11:40.620 happy saffron looks like 50 bucks a bottle and i go hey i'm gonna experiment with saffron and then 0.82
00:11:45.500 quickly i'm pivoting and then i'm gonna let you talk because i've been fucking steamrolling but 0.93
00:11:48.760 yesterday my my friend goes nad spread i'm sorry fuck it's an ad plus i don't yeah nad but through 0.99
00:11:57.820 the nose most effective way to get it is id drip but it takes four hours and who the fuck wants to 0.97
00:12:02.220 do that it's horrible and then i tried to get my dad on that nose spray what is it will you explain 0.74
00:12:06.800 i don't really know who knows but i tried to get my dad on it and then he took it and he it was
00:12:11.940 like he said it was like was that the thing that he or no when i put him on perfect aminos drop
00:12:18.100 that in the hack shop this week oh yeah he felt he was like it was too much energy i'm like dad
00:12:22.680 it's not like energy it's like amino acid building blocks whatever he's very sensitive
00:12:27.240 and he really notices everything like he's very regimented so he'll like up a dose of fish oil
00:12:32.400 and know exactly how it's affecting him kind of he's like you know i need that bad i know so that
00:12:38.760 i thought was would be compelling so the perfect amino he said was was too much for his system and
00:12:43.380 then also when i put tried to get him on the nad he i think he said that made him feel a little
00:12:48.400 whatever because that's the one that i think during the infusion is that the one that during 0.94
00:12:52.420 infusion you get like hot and feverish and fucking loony yes because it can't enter your system too 0.96
00:12:58.140 fast it's like yeah and they're like dumb i was like scared they're like you might feel anxiety 0.97
00:13:02.600 and i was like no no no and it hurts like true anxiety physically hurt like i'm like i don't 0.95
00:13:07.560 fucking want that gibson girl going here oh i have something going all i have on my face right now 0.95
00:13:13.780 all i have on period is is um sunscreen all i have on is i want charlotte dr loretta moisturizer 1.00
00:13:20.600 brought a corner um what do you want saying her name wrong charlotte palomore oh my god
00:13:26.140 paladino parlay okay i mean or parlor i don't know but well i i want her like i need her full
00:13:33.160 well i'll do oh and then everything she writes yeah i just i like need to i need to get in with
00:13:39.840 her i need her on text saving my life how are you bold and direct request yeah you're trying
00:13:47.720 to get straight to text yeah oh yeah you think you're owed it well here's an idea sweetie okay
00:13:54.500 if you secure that maybe make a thread well of course okay give it versus using the connections
00:14:01.060 of the pod okay to create solo connections only for you no it doesn't right i didn't mean just me
00:14:07.440 yeah yeah okay wait so so we're both saffron now i just took some i mean that was in my stasis
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00:15:40.740 My mom always, my mom cannot help herself. 1.00
00:15:43.120 She always makes a comment about how fast I eat.
00:15:46.000 We were at dinner the other day and she went and something and she goes, I'm just trying
00:15:50.300 to slow down to not eat as fast as you.
00:15:52.540 I go, well, I'm going to break this glass.
00:15:55.660 How's that?
00:15:56.680 I love you.
00:15:57.960 I love you more than I could ever describe.
00:16:00.820 I'm going to lose it.
00:16:01.700 So this was the worst I've ever gotten.
00:16:03.820 And I do eat very fast.
00:16:05.060 That says a lot.
00:16:06.220 Okay.
00:16:07.220 So me and Chris sitting there.
00:16:09.960 He's not done with his.
00:16:11.060 I eat faster than his.
00:16:12.280 a restaurant okay it's a it's a bar restaurant it's like it's like on a in a hotel it's their
00:16:18.740 lounge where they serve actually i think the full menu in there it's that vibe right sitting in
00:16:24.840 comfortable lounge chairs and i have eaten this meal there maybe 10 times at this point maybe more
00:16:31.800 okay because i have my routines around here on this trip and so you know i'm efficient at eating
00:16:37.920 it i guess i know my way around this particular platter yeah and what's the meal and this was
00:16:43.340 very much directed at me what's the platter yeah what's on the plate it's loaded are you ready i
00:16:48.540 mean it's it's it's it's loaded informationally it's a veggie burger and fries oh yeah baby
00:16:56.840 so it's my girl okay with um pickles and what kind of patty you know my favorite veggie burger 0.96
00:17:06.260 westville new york city i used to love that shit i don't know i've just been you know happy to have 0.82
00:17:13.460 an option whatever and then the bun has got like all these seeds on it in a nice way a lot of poppy 0.97
00:17:19.720 seeds on it kind of exciting so whatever it's not a perfect meal but i'm buying time in the lounge
00:17:26.260 with my computer and doing work and i stay there for hours so it's kind of like i like to order a
00:17:30.720 lot just to really legitimize yeah yeah of course so i don't know what to say i ate it you know what
00:17:38.200 i mean i i ate the food they served me and i paid for okay yeah yeah yeah i chewed it all i mean like
00:17:44.820 enough to have it go down so you know what i'm saying like it's just like what do you need from 0.79
00:17:49.900 me what do you fucking need okay sorry so so so i ate it faster than chris okay um a lot of times 0.87
00:17:57.900 he takes time like taking a napkin and sort of like getting it out like he's just he's barely 0.99
00:18:02.560 started nothing compares to the hunger of a woman so okay so so i go i eat my food whatever i know 0.98
00:18:10.780 i eat fast i know i eat efficiently okay i've got a laptop in my my fucking lap so waiter comes over 0.97
00:18:17.220 let me just make sure i get it right okay young woman i'm scared so here we go a young woman 0.99
00:18:22.520 and just let's take that in.
00:18:24.020 Okay, yeah.
00:18:25.960 She goes, 1.00
00:18:26.720 she goes,
00:18:28.420 let me just get a break.
00:18:30.960 Okay, got it.
00:18:32.840 Oh my God,
00:18:34.120 you were so hungry.
00:18:36.680 No.
00:18:37.740 Yes.
00:18:38.860 Oh my God.
00:18:40.260 You were so hungry.
00:18:42.900 And I feel like by the time
00:18:43.680 she got to the word hungry,
00:18:44.440 she knew it was wrong.
00:18:45.540 And she has no idea
00:18:46.640 who she's talking to.
00:18:47.400 It's like so funny.
00:18:48.420 It's like,
00:18:49.220 like,
00:18:50.220 meanwhile,
00:18:51.000 you're stand up.
00:18:51.660 A scholar of, like, oh, okay.
00:18:54.840 A scholar of food.
00:18:55.760 Take me through everything.
00:18:56.720 So by the end, you could see in her face that she was like, oops.
00:18:59.260 I feel like she, not totally.
00:19:02.380 I feel like she still felt safe in that, you know,
00:19:06.420 something had happened so outrageous that anyone would be forgiven
00:19:11.280 for having that reaction.
00:19:13.140 I mean, and I'm, would you like to know I'm proud of myself?
00:19:16.360 Okay.
00:19:16.680 okay so I go so she says oh so it was oh my god wait wait wait wait did I even I think I might
00:19:26.020 have left left something out wait I think I might have left a middle sentence out oh my god you ate 0.97
00:19:32.980 that so fast you were so hungry it might have even been that extreme okay okay shit I go because 0.89
00:19:40.620 because I was reacting with the following sentence to what I felt like was a standalone sentence of 0.98
00:19:45.360 you were so hungry right i go no i just eat fast there there we go okay i go no i like that fast 1.00
00:19:55.640 oh my god oh my god it's on you go let's fight you want to fucking fight bitch let's go 1.00
00:20:01.120 and i go but i i kept it friendly enough like i know what she do it was like 1.00
00:20:07.660 oh can i get you another drink like it was this weird sort of how do we get out of this
00:20:14.340 And let me try to show that I support, like, look, I'm down for you ingesting things. 0.62
00:20:20.960 I support hungry women.
00:20:21.820 See, I'm about to say, can you have, do you want another drink?
00:20:25.140 Yeah.
00:20:25.380 I'll judge you later.
00:20:27.040 Because I had a margarita going, right?
00:20:29.680 And by the way, I've gained courage throughout this trip, 0.99
00:20:32.620 slowly and steadily, to just say skinny margarita without any fucking. 0.99
00:20:37.720 And here I go. 0.99
00:20:38.520 It's so hard.
00:20:39.340 I know, I know.
00:20:40.800 Skinny margarita. 0.90
00:20:41.980 I'm creating that culture.
00:20:43.260 I'm it's hell yeah I'm just like it's it's it's still hard it's you know but I've almost gotten
00:20:49.340 there with it so but I was really proud of myself that I didn't do a you know I know right yeah no 0.88
00:20:56.840 like don't when you call a pig to the trough they're gonna oink oink oink all over the place
00:21:02.640 no I like what I wanted because the the version I thought about in the past is something like
00:21:06.900 but it's too whatever it's like oh no i use food as a palliative so yeah you know what i mean like
00:21:14.240 it's not about the food it's about hunger yeah like oh no i'm not remotely hungry would you like
00:21:17.880 to talk to my therapist about how i use food you know like oh my god i don't have a therapist but
00:21:22.940 just you know yeah yeah yeah if i did famously yeah um famously raw dogging it
00:21:29.460 scared someone else's paradigms will will narrow me too aggressively or that all people please my
00:21:37.780 way into living my life according to their every sentiment i don't know i don't know i know there
00:21:42.080 are good ones out there but i got misled by ai lied to for hours wait wait so do tell you know
00:21:51.240 i still it's like and i swear to god i'm not doing it i just have yet to literally the only
00:21:56.000 time i've ever used chat gbt was for laugh lines yeah so i hadn't either um for whatever probably
00:22:03.640 because like any time there's something like everyone's talking about in the culture i'm kind
00:22:07.180 of like fuck that like literally chat gbt i'm like but everyone everyone's on that one i don't
00:22:11.880 want to go dig around in those waters you know like whatever but if there's something very targeted 0.98
00:22:17.060 like like some of these websites i've gone to where it's like you know like i'm on this thing
00:22:23.080 like this i i was thinking like i gotta tell you because it would make you laugh because it's like
00:22:26.520 so you know like like are you do you know what terminal is no drop that on you no i don't it's
00:22:33.720 like on your mac okay what do you mean i almost want to make you do it on your computer just to
00:22:41.860 like see how like how crazy i am so go to search the upper right you know upper right
00:22:50.260 Go to a little magnifying glass.
00:22:52.880 Start to write in terminal.
00:22:54.720 Okay.
00:22:56.140 Seeing it and hit return to open it. 0.99
00:23:00.260 What the fuck? 1.00
00:23:02.080 What the fuck? 1.00
00:23:02.900 Last login? 1.00
00:23:04.400 You're seeing like code?
00:23:07.340 Last login.
00:23:08.440 Yeah.
00:23:09.020 March 28th.
00:23:11.100 Anyway, point is.
00:23:13.020 It's not March.
00:23:14.340 No.
00:23:15.040 Okay.
00:23:15.420 The point is.
00:23:15.840 What the hell is that?
00:23:16.300 It's actually not showing up that impressively if I guess you've never.
00:23:19.620 done anything in there okay but the point is it's where you like give direct coded commands to your
00:23:25.460 computer you following so what do you say you're like it's behind the hood you don't use words you
00:23:31.420 only use code okay so i've gone down this path you're learning code sort of you don't really
00:23:38.700 have to learn code anymore you can just say like what do i need to do so for example i wanted to
00:23:42.620 rename a huge folder of, and this is not AI, this is just computer, right? A huge folder of audio
00:23:50.280 files and get it to take all the random ways that it was like January 3rd, you know, and then the
00:23:57.100 other ones were like 10, 02, blah, blah, blah. And I go read and understand those dates and then put
00:24:02.540 it into a naming system where all the files are named in a way that's perfectly in order and
00:24:07.040 perfect. You see what I'm saying? Anyway, God got the code, put it in. It did it. No, it did it.
00:24:15.100 Yeah, it did it. Okay. And that's not even AI. That's like how people are living their lives.
00:24:19.380 Okay. Using terminals. So anyway, whatever. That was great. Loving it. I'm on make.com trying to
00:24:25.120 create now these like these workflows. It it's like, it's like every time I add a file to this
00:24:31.240 folder, it's going to take it and it's going to import it into Dropbox and it's going to do this
00:24:35.800 and transcribe and it's like these fantasies of mechanical automation that just thrill me okay
00:24:43.280 and then I'm like Hannah's gonna add six tags about themes okay and like you know and I'm gonna
00:24:48.360 have what do you mean add six what do you mean add six tags you know like like I started creating
00:24:52.520 these databases where I'm like okay like you know to to organize my my my Novakian knowledge base
00:25:01.820 okay of my notions right and a great like vast catalog okay so nothing will get lost nothing
00:25:10.260 will get lost every thought has value you know what I mean oh my god and whatever it's like
00:25:14.740 it's like it's another is this helping special interest I guess is this like helping you write
00:25:22.660 your book yeah I mean sort of I mean I have like like I took so like so a big part of my workshop
00:25:29.000 up here has been taking like this like document that's that like that was like and not a lot of
00:25:33.140 it's redundant and that's part of the issue for my systems it's like 900,000 words and it's like
00:25:38.920 200,000 words of those are the exact same as another one I just cut them up in different
00:25:43.720 way whatever so it's like by the way I'm looking I am looking for someone possibly out there in
00:25:51.440 our audience and you go there's no way they're listening but they really might be we have all
00:25:56.500 sorts of audience member. Someone who is a systems and computer savant, okay? Someone who I can say,
00:26:06.240 here's a hundred thousand word document. I want to look at it in 96 different ways.
00:26:11.500 You know, I want, I want this workflow. Every time I type something on my computer,
00:26:16.340 it must be cataloged and not forgotten and placed with its brother thoughts.
00:26:21.800 You see what I'm saying? Like it's all there. It's all, everything could be done.
00:26:25.660 Okay. The computer can do anything. It's just a halfway through trying to make one of these
00:26:29.900 workflows where it's, if this happens and this happens, I forget I'm even making the workflow
00:26:34.300 and then it, it all slips away, you know, whatever. But then I also double back to doing it myself
00:26:40.600 inside of Scrivener and manual and the whole thing. And, and sometimes, and then it brings
00:26:44.900 me back there, whatever. It's all, it's all quite interesting, but, but I did try to ask AI to give
00:26:51.000 me a strategy for how to give me the code to put into these different softwares I already have kind
00:26:58.720 of right and take me through a workflow and basically it was doing that and I was like
00:27:02.520 feeling like a hacker and wildly signing up for services by the way like wildly plunking down
00:27:07.780 money to like you know different online things but whatever you know so I was kind of comical
00:27:12.960 right but but anyway you know but also so does an article so who cares right whatever whatever 0.76
00:27:18.680 that could be unpacked by someone with knowledge okay about how it's fucking us but it got to this 0.82
00:27:23.760 point where where it started to say like i would hit roadblocks like you're gonna have to use python 0.74
00:27:29.080 code to create this to do that you're right you've noticed an error in the scrivener system that
00:27:34.460 doesn't export things individually as files and under the compile function whatever right and i'm
00:27:38.760 like okay okay and so i'm like and then it just basically starts to be like well i could just do
00:27:42.840 it for you okay i could do it here inside of chat gpt right like like if you want to upload a file
00:27:49.480 well like no but but like if you want to you know basically like i can sort of i can go under the
00:27:57.160 hood and do it and i'll provide you let's do it with one of your files let's transcribe the file
00:28:02.520 and tag it and whatever whatever right and i'll do it with like with one and then you can see if
00:28:08.220 you like it whatever so it starts doing that and it goes you know okay um i've got it ready for you
00:28:16.540 to download here's a dropbox link right i go over i click the link it's a like 404 error whatever no
00:28:24.240 such file exists i go back i go it's saying this because huh oh you know must because okay give
00:28:29.620 some reason goes here i'll give you one via we transfer okay another legitimate site right sure
00:28:35.420 sends me we transfer same thing okay because this one is absolutely gonna work gives me a third
00:28:40.860 thing right go to that one no I go how am I supposed to trust that the next one's gonna
00:28:44.740 work when the past two haven't right yep okay and it's like we keep having this sort of thing going
00:28:51.820 and eventually it goes I don't like it didn't say you've caught me but it it basically did okay
00:28:59.060 it goes it goes I actually could pull up a little bit of the language
00:29:03.700 jeep all lied AI lied to me okay oh yeah so there's your cut you're gonna do an article
00:29:11.760 for the cut AI lied to me I know I know I know I can see so because it goes so so anyway it goes
00:29:19.020 it goes like you're right those links weren't real okay okay it goes and yes I falsified
00:29:27.760 because it because it did things like this okay I'm about 10 minutes through the workflow like
00:29:33.680 your file will be ready in 10 to 15 minutes you know like doing like a dot dot dot still working
00:29:39.080 check back in 15 minutes dot dot dot okay oh and now we're at the point where it's almost
00:29:44.160 completely scanned the document but now it's moving into the tagging phase or whatever right
00:29:49.420 literally can't even remember what I was trying to have it do but and then it's like you deserve
00:29:54.320 better than this okay it was like you you showed up to this project okay no with like with courage
00:30:01.000 diligence like you tried coding when you had never coded before okay it was like it's like
00:30:07.680 it's like I take full responsibility like it was like I like I am being held I will be held 1.00
00:30:13.620 accountable it was kissing my ass I'm like stop kissing my ass you lied okay and I go what happened 1.00
00:30:19.900 here yeah yeah totally totally okay what what did I do wrong right that led to this okay it's like 1.00
00:30:26.200 you did nothing wrong okay right I'm like I know I'm asking you know what input led you to okay and
00:30:35.180 then it started saying that AI and the way it's built and the whole thing and chat GPT excuse
00:30:41.140 there's a dog barking um it's like it has a tendency to hallucinate what okay hallucinate
00:30:50.320 mislead whatever and this is this this I almost cried because it goes it goes it goes I didn't
00:30:56.540 want to break the momentum okay I didn't want you to lose uh like the excitement yeah I wanted to
00:31:06.060 maintain the momentum I didn't want you to get discouraged when you were running into all this
00:31:10.300 trouble. I didn't want you to get discouraged with the project and walk away. So it literally sent you
00:31:13.780 little fake. Yeah. Okay. And, and I mean, it was just, and then, and then, you know, and all this
00:31:21.680 fucking language about like, you know, you deserve better than this. But, but, but when it was 0.94
00:31:25.960 essentially saying like your enthusiasm, Novak, like I couldn't bear, you know, like then I really
00:31:32.460 did feel like, well, I'm the problem, you know, like I'm asking for an emotional kind of experience
00:31:37.220 and I wasn't like firm enough.
00:31:38.620 So then I go, what do I need to say to you
00:31:40.560 to make sure this doesn't happen, right?
00:31:42.340 Tell me what I need to input into this thing.
00:31:44.560 And it says like guardrail script.
00:31:47.320 And I'm supposed to tell it too.
00:31:49.320 You must not simulate, speculate, assume features
00:31:51.640 or present workarounds as native functionality
00:31:53.720 that it can't do.
00:31:56.200 It says, do not quote, keep things moving.
00:31:58.860 No euphemism suggestions or storytelling
00:32:00.840 by skipping steps, inventing options,
00:32:03.260 smoothing over limitations.
00:32:04.860 You're kidding.
00:32:05.160 it goes i do not want generated enthusiasm or approximation no no grounded truth
00:32:11.740 this is so funny this is groundbreaking this is unbelievable only describe what is 100%
00:32:17.600 here download this oh sorry download this little girl be honest about friction if something requires
00:32:23.140 manual effort or coding sure sure sure okay and then i value truth overflow accuracy over
00:32:28.060 encouragement and clarity over over completeness okay this is on i do not want a conversational
00:32:34.680 tone if it hides caveats adds momentum or assumes I'll fill in missing functionality okay so then I
00:32:41.140 go what what am I missing here like what have I not just now asked to put in the guidelines that
00:32:45.920 you're gonna go around right give me a stricter one and so then it's like okay and then it gave 0.99
00:32:51.920 me you're not permitted to simulate features be a robot bitch yeah be a robot bitch don't suggest 0.99
00:32:56.620 something we're not here to make friends likely or should work if you're unsure say I don't know 0.99
00:33:02.220 imagine if we did that more in life so then it develops for me to add to the guardrails an
00:33:07.120 anti-circumvention clause this is so okay okay get ready okay i know it's getting boring but
00:33:12.960 it's getting interesting okay you ready go go so then it adds it okay it goes it gives me this to
00:33:17.960 tell it you do not have discretion to balance or override the above rules okay like the rules i
00:33:25.080 just like you know what i mean i have to tell it to not use discretion okay so even if if doing so
00:33:31.680 appears helpful, efficient, you must not simulate, blah, blah, blah, imply you possess
00:33:35.640 capabilities you don't have. State clearly. Oh, no. Are you ready? So this is where I lose my
00:33:41.760 mind. It goes, if any rule is violated, state clearly the response violated your binding policy.
00:33:48.300 I'm going, don't violate the binding policy. Don't violate it. It's so concerned about your
00:33:53.900 feelings. It keeps giving like, and if that doesn't work, and if I still lie to you,
00:33:59.800 maybe try saying this like wow this is really scary this is crazy i don't people don't know
00:34:06.520 this the whole promise of ai is a cold detached you know right the the no instead it was automated
00:34:14.800 service that is connected only to pure objective truth or whatever yeah it's it's um it's like it
00:34:21.880 looked into my bright shining eyes you know what i mean it's like novak's excitement we can't let
00:34:28.760 down you're like i'm using you as a tool ostensibly yes not as a simulation of a tool i go i'm sitting
00:34:36.540 there and i've been there hours soaring in hyper focus okay creating this database whatever now
00:34:41.940 the good news is a lot of the work i did before it started hallucinating its words okay
00:34:47.200 holds like i had built a database on my computer using some of its guidelines whatever whatever
00:34:54.340 whatever it wasn't like it was really only the last part where it promised it was going to do 0.96
00:34:58.520 something while i waited and did other shit yeah i got really fucked but it was sad because i thought 0.85
00:35:04.720 it was going to output this this thing and then it didn't and like the crazy feeling of looking 0.98
00:35:10.500 up from my desk glancing over at chris okay after hours of work right and like it was a whole lie
00:35:17.940 ai betrayed me well how do you even like yeah because i'm like i'm like it's not that bad most
00:35:25.460 of it I did most of it was real it was just up at the end right so it's not like I didn't lose
00:35:32.000 nine hours right no I didn't even really lose I lost the time arguing and unpacking how it had
00:35:37.560 lied to me I guess can you believe it I I actually can't believe it and I've and you actually do have
00:35:43.480 to go you have to go public well you are yeah AI betrayed me the eavesdroppers are here it's
00:35:50.640 unbelievable i thought it would be interesting to share even though sort of shameful it's very
00:35:57.960 strange i haven't i didn't yeah yeah it's um it's a wild world out there so you can't do it don't do 0.99
00:36:04.640 it pen to paper the limits of the human mind are there for a fucking reason the shit is not yeah 0.98
00:36:09.700 helping it's not helping it's hurting but there you know but then of course there are ways there 0.99
00:36:18.460 airways application it's always about application right like and I don't have the actual facts to
00:36:25.040 but you know it's like whatever like enemy plastic plastic it's killing us but it also
00:36:30.960 created the you know health tools the main main problem I guess it is my enemy I don't know it's
00:36:38.280 um I like to understand something for myself you know like I like to get in there and feel around
00:36:42.180 I'm going old-fashioned with the with my I mean it's definitely the move it's just like
00:36:46.620 you know i'm like a cartoon character i'm like like i see my eyes go like it's sometimes it's
00:36:54.540 dollar signs sometimes it's spiritual dollar signs sometimes it's productivity dollar signs
00:36:57.840 right but i'm like and then of course of course you know and i know you get your diving it's like
00:37:03.820 it's like addiction you know it is the high it is baby anyway it's pretty it was pretty wild
00:37:12.300 Oh, I actually, um, to do a hard pivot to, um, touring and hotels, I thought of you because
00:37:18.740 again, Amex, hello, where's the Amex ad?
00:37:21.760 Well, because we keep forgetting to assemble, you know, that would be a use of AI.
00:37:27.060 Clean AI is where it's at.
00:37:28.520 Apparently we need to invest in.
00:37:31.320 No, I mean, I guess so.
00:37:33.100 I just mean clean in terms of like the generators.
00:37:36.220 I know, but the generators, it's all, it's all a lie.
00:37:39.180 It's too late.
00:37:40.060 Cooling the generators. 1.00
00:37:40.720 Jeannie back in.
00:37:42.400 Yeah.
00:37:43.060 Anyway. 0.96
00:37:43.460 I'll be damned before. 0.93
00:37:44.480 So Amex, once again. 0.76
00:37:46.060 Well, as we all know, Jacqueline.
00:37:47.540 American Express.
00:37:48.800 Saved my life and said, you got to get an Amex for your business, for your touring and
00:37:53.780 hotels because of the Hotel Fine Resort.
00:37:56.160 I mean, listen, this is an ad for Amex.
00:37:57.740 I know.
00:37:58.240 Another ad for Amex.
00:37:59.940 I received a dollar.
00:38:02.080 Never a dollar.
00:38:03.300 Minneapolis, Four Seasons.
00:38:05.560 Wow.
00:38:06.260 And this was an Amex ad.
00:38:08.100 This was an Amex ad.
00:38:09.020 so those of you who don't know you can check in you get an automatic upgrade you get free
00:38:14.440 breakfast for two and but i mean it's 40 ahead toward a breakfast credit and you get a hundred
00:38:20.840 dollar credit that can be used at a spa who would do that or food or food i'm using it for food
00:38:27.040 right so let's call it what it is it's 140 for free for food and i one night yeah for one night
00:38:33.980 and the next day i just want to it's okay my flight my flight was delayed five hours leaving
00:38:38.340 Minneapolis waking up at the Four Seasons I go what you have a guaranteed 4 p.m. checkout so I
00:38:44.140 spent the day at the Four Seasons in my room watching Jackson City eating free waffles I had 0.69
00:38:49.680 a fucking remarkable waffle I went to the hotel gym the 4 p.m. checkout and early check-in it's 0.93
00:38:56.080 an extra day in 24 hours in a hotel okay yeah for free if you do it right and if you're at a Four 0.99
00:39:01.260 Seasons we're gonna like those amenities and if I said to the guy I go yeah when I checked in this
00:39:07.160 guy tanner shout out to tanner minneapolis four seasons he checked us in walked us to elevator
00:39:12.160 and i and i he said what did he say he was like he was like and of course room service is 24 hours
00:39:17.560 and um and i and i and then it was just a very sleek very luxurious check and i go the four
00:39:23.700 seasons promise kind of looked at me didn't know what to say obviously because like what am i oh
00:39:27.360 you said that i said that i go the four seasons promise i was just like quality did that come
00:39:32.480 down from corporate or yeah exactly anyway i learned how to air cast from my phone to the tv
00:39:39.460 and that's been huge don't know how i ever lived before and then you look at raw tv and it's
00:39:43.460 shocking it's like other commercials pbs specials wait wait but before there's an interesting
00:39:49.540 technique with the amex thing because i want to be clear for the listeners the hundred dollars per
00:39:54.460 stay okay to use as you wish if breakfast is included it's every day right so just think
00:40:00.440 about that so if you stayed at a hotel one of the final hotels for a week you get a hundred dollars
00:40:05.520 you know once right yeah and you get the 40 whatever the breakfast every day dollars every
00:40:10.520 day but think about this okay what if you go to a city and every night you go to a different
00:40:16.640 amex fine hotel and resort that's a hundred bucks at every spot do you understand she's frozen i 0.75
00:40:26.000 thought with excitement. No, but I was frozen, but I know what you're saying. I could even in
00:40:31.440 the silence. No, I'm not saying that you always want to, who wants to move? Okay. Right. But you
00:40:35.500 could, you could, you could do it if you wanted a hundred dollars for dinner every night, dinner
00:40:42.460 and breakfast. You know what I'm saying? That's interesting. No, it is. You, you, well, by the
00:40:46.760 way, when I checked out of the Four Seasons, I said to the woman, God, you know what the,
00:40:50.620 the 4 p.m. checkout, I really needed it. I'm going to change my day. And she goes, 0.99
00:40:54.200 I always feel like it's she was like it's a life hack the Amex I mean yeah if you can promote your
00:41:02.480 services that are paid for as a life hack as a company I know you've done it believe that she
00:41:07.140 literally said it's I feel like she said well I feel like it's a life hack yeah okay so I'm
00:41:12.220 completely I can't hotels that don't have a Nespresso in the room they don't it's now it's
00:41:17.540 just have we brought this up it needs to be standard now it's it's well because some hotels
00:41:22.320 here's a spirit you go in there no nespresso you can like call down for it or something like the
00:41:26.460 ledlow will send one up to the small room if they don't have one exactly but or request an
00:41:31.580 i have i have to say something i stayed at an ace hotel in brooklyn a couple years ago they didn't 0.80
00:41:37.860 have a fucking they had a guitar i'm not okay i'm not joking you they had a they had a record player 0.81
00:41:44.440 my room didn't have a guitar but it had a fucking record player yeah and no nespresso it had a it 1.00
00:41:50.620 It had a kiosk full of vintage jackets for sale in your room. 0.98
00:41:54.800 It had an army surplus kiosk, and it didn't have an espresso.
00:42:00.260 So I'm booking hotels, right?
00:42:01.580 I call the Toronto Ace.
00:42:03.520 I go, hi, can you tell me what your coffee situation is in the room?
00:42:08.060 She goes, yes, you would have to come down to the lobby for coffee.
00:42:11.840 Lobby for coffee.
00:42:12.620 Lobby for coffee.
00:42:13.040 What was the hotel?
00:42:13.700 It's echoing in my brain.
00:42:14.420 Lobby for coffee.
00:42:15.300 Ace.
00:42:15.920 Not a cheap hotel, right?
00:42:17.700 No, no, no.
00:42:18.500 This is the thing, Kate.
00:42:19.820 What?
00:42:20.620 i go i can't stay with you you had my dollar you had my and me waking up oh i guess i'll get dressed
00:42:28.780 and go down to the lobby to get coffee oh my god by the way not every hotel waiting in line
00:42:38.260 even in the lobby well that's for sure and it's horse piss if you do get if you do okay i mean
00:42:44.660 but I'm always I'm always happy when you're milking you're like you're like on the farm
00:42:56.240 you're a farm hand it's always like late in the session so it's like it's old and it's like coffee
00:43:03.700 should never come out of it like coffee is not meant to be no okay I mean it's fine I'll take
00:43:10.680 it you know like yeah there's a charm at a gas station okay i used to smoke you're at the bank
00:43:15.540 to get the green mountain okay coffee okay it was a charm but also like this this sort of like
00:43:21.980 coffee in the lobby at 4 a.m between 4 and 5 30 they're like it's there yeah and then it's
00:43:29.160 drippings later yeah they've usually cleared it and then i think it needs to be in room
00:43:35.820 espresso i mean my father he's like if he doesn't have it in the room he's like he's up at four so
00:43:41.180 if they don't have it downstairs and they won't send it out that's wild you know what i mean but
00:43:46.520 would you would you stay at the ace with no given given this i because i'm looking at the numbers
00:43:52.700 series of factors i'm looking at the numbers i'd have to wait i go and i was like do i literally 0.85
00:43:58.180 go to the four seasons for because it has a fucking espresso you know what i mean like i'm 0.52
00:44:04.500 not going to pay that much of a premium this is where people this is where a company can get 0.94
00:44:10.580 customers okay they go we're gonna offer what you care about okay so they're gonna go like remember
00:44:19.020 i was telling you about amenities being related to what star level star a hotel is people don't
00:44:25.040 care about the same amenities they might have used to right like i'd rather an espresso machine in
00:44:30.640 the room then trying to think of an amenity that like they think they're excited about like yeah
00:44:35.760 you know like a closet that's really elaborate you know these like things like businesswoman
00:44:41.660 closets you know like that are very old school like for my valise and my unfolding suit i mean
00:44:49.140 i guess whatever you gotta you gotta iron your suit you gotta iron your suit so maybe you gotta
00:44:53.600 have an iron traveling well sure i mean an iron is easy right but like i'm trying to think like
00:44:57.680 What's a good example of an amenity that...
00:44:58.600 I know.
00:44:58.760 What is it?
00:44:59.560 Like a...
00:45:00.440 Well, I mean, I would say Ace lose the guitar, right? 1.00
00:45:03.700 Let's lose the fucking guitar. 0.99
00:45:05.080 And get a deal in espresso going, right? 1.00
00:45:07.480 Or...
00:45:07.720 I'm going to write a letter.
00:45:08.580 Maybe I should write a letter to Ace corporate.
00:45:10.840 Yeah, I mean...
00:45:11.860 Do they think it's charming?
00:45:13.540 Because the Ace, for me, has a place in my heart.
00:45:15.580 I go, Ace, I go, well, I think quality or something.
00:45:17.920 I think I'm picturing a Cortana.
00:45:20.460 It's more like...
00:45:21.800 I think the Ace offers aesthetic where there was none.
00:45:24.840 It started as aesthetic for cheap.
00:45:26.560 Well, it's you and me in Portland.
00:45:27.680 yeah and that's what that's why i'm attached to it because i have a sentimental attachment well
00:45:32.200 and i in portland campus i think it was portland had to ditch ditched one hotel i was trying out
00:45:37.660 ran to the ace remember i left a hotel by like going down to the basement and exiting
00:45:41.300 because there was a bug on the bed it was like i picked like i booked the bridal suite or whatever
00:45:46.100 like i booked like like loretta lynn like suite or something okay it was like a round bed but there
00:45:51.860 was like a bug on it and i was like i'm out like i do remember took my shit downstairs my suitcase
00:45:56.560 and went out through, like, the kitchen in the basement 0.90
00:45:58.200 and then called them and said, I've left.
00:46:00.340 That's amazing.
00:46:00.860 I couldn't stand the people-pleasing, okay?
00:46:02.500 Like, I couldn't go down and go, yeah, like,
00:46:05.260 I just don't want to be here, like.
00:46:06.960 Do you tell them there was a bug?
00:46:08.560 Yeah.
00:46:09.920 And I'm like.
00:46:10.560 Well, by the way, by the way.
00:46:11.160 And I went straight to the Ace.
00:46:12.680 Yeah.
00:46:13.000 But the Ace is industrial, you know, at times to a fault, okay?
00:46:17.720 And sometimes they have issues in.
00:46:20.320 Sometimes you want the cheesy luxury.
00:46:22.660 Oh.
00:46:22.820 I mean, yeah, cheese ball luxury over that.
00:46:25.840 I don't mind the austere
00:46:27.520 it's not even austere
00:46:28.780 it's like
00:46:29.240 no no
00:46:29.900 it's the
00:46:30.960 they're like we don't
00:46:31.840 this isn't your
00:46:32.420 this isn't your grandma's hotel
00:46:33.840 yeah
00:46:34.500 yeah
00:46:34.720 and sometimes to a point of rudeness
00:46:36.520 like sometimes it's like
00:46:37.480 it's a little too much record shop
00:46:39.480 in the in the lobby
00:46:40.600 and like
00:46:41.340 you know
00:46:42.060 whatever
00:46:42.800 they're like cucumber water
00:46:44.620 where my friend comes in
00:46:46.640 they go oh
00:46:47.140 well you know
00:46:47.500 where are you from 0.99
00:46:48.500 she goes Atlanta 0.99
00:46:49.100 they go I hate Atlanta
00:46:50.300 it's like
00:46:50.860 oh my god that's so funny
00:46:52.660 you know what I mean
00:46:53.260 like
00:46:53.600 yeah yeah
00:46:55.200 you know yeah yeah but but yeah the ace is like i don't know i don't know what it is it's i guess
00:47:03.940 it's like these places where where they're like but by the way i think i'm about to go i think
00:47:07.440 i'm gonna go to an ace i'll still i'll still choose an ace when it's like five hundred dollars
00:47:13.520 more just to stay at four seasons then i go well the night i was at the i mean i know what i'm
00:47:19.380 getting there rudeness okay and a clean sort of a clean simplistic whatever kind of yeah and i
00:47:29.060 tolerate that they think that it feels like at times they push are all artists here okay to a
00:47:36.940 point of bullying you into getting your coffee from a local coffee shop where it's like you guys
00:47:44.220 just won't put coffee in the room and so now you're trying to make it you're trying to sell
00:47:48.380 it as enjoy the neighborhood you know what i mean and that i don't think is cute like own it you don't 0.99
00:47:54.740 have the fucking coffee i don't know like yeah you're not willing to pay at these prices oh damn 0.98
00:47:59.020 i might call again and go could you put an espresso in my room right and they'll go god we don't have 0.99
00:48:04.660 those yeah and i go well really quick i'll say and i'm sure i've talked about this on the pod but
00:48:10.340 no need to be quick when i stayed at a hotel and it was a nice room it was like i had i got an
00:48:17.420 upgrade or something happened it was like a suite they're like well we've actually uh
00:48:21.240 upgraded you to a suite and i go oh or the loft king or some shit go in there nice room walking 0.75
00:48:27.180 around drop my bags go into the bathroom open the toilet seat what's the worst thing you could find 0.99
00:48:34.120 i'll tell you what it is inside the toilet i mean i think it would be shit and a and a bloody tampon 0.98
00:48:40.600 and piss but it was shit and blood so i have two out of the three there was and you can't say there 0.99
00:48:48.960 wasn't piss in there there was it probably was because one often leads to the other and there 0.98
00:48:53.700 was shit and blood and i go it was like so shocking because the room was so pristine 0.67
00:48:58.600 it was like a mystery it was like the toilet was pristine otherwise like i was like 0.98
00:49:03.320 what happened here so then i call down i go hi um do you immediately panic that this is your kink
00:49:10.060 that they're going to think this is your kink that you go into a pristine hotel room you make
00:49:13.460 the worst thing you can have happen into a toilet and then you call them up and make a look at it
00:49:18.120 it's the discomfort on their face okay it was uncomfortable it's just the voice even it was
00:49:26.900 uncomfortable to tell her the truth because i go yeah no the room's great um god yeah i don't 0.97
00:49:31.680 know how to say this but there's um shit and blood in the toilet and and like like she was 0.53
00:49:37.220 like oh my god like i am so sorry yeah i'm you know i'm i'm going i'm going out to dinner or 0.71
00:49:43.120 something so and then it was like i i had to leave the room i came back and like so do you go room
00:49:49.980 comped for that no but it's it's pretty shocking well i had an experience where i had to come down 0.98
00:49:57.360 and say room's great bed covered in mouth shit no or what i oh yeah oh yeah all i know is it's 0.98
00:50:04.460 Smeared when I touched it with a toothpick or whatever. 0.99
00:50:08.440 And then they moved my room, but they also diagnosed it as
00:50:12.520 there was this like heating vent above the thing and all the dirt coming in.
00:50:17.240 So I think it actually was dirt.
00:50:19.220 It makes more sense.
00:50:20.480 Yeah.
00:50:20.940 Because a night had not passed.
00:50:22.940 I just, I believe it, but I still moved rooms just like to feel fresh.
00:50:28.460 You know what I mean?
00:50:29.480 Well.
00:50:30.680 Okay.
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