Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Cleavage

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00:01:34.840 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:01:36.300 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:01:37.400 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:01:42.140 Two untameable intellects.

00:01:43.900 This is our hobby. 0.93

00:01:44.760 This is our hell.

00:01:45.620 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:01:47.880 This is POOG.

00:01:49.300 Today's topic, loosely speaking,

00:01:50.780 Gruyere, accidental texting, phantom purchases.

00:01:55.300 greetings greetings i'm having one of those mornings where i just can't wake up jacqueline

00:02:02.220 wow i'm so tired really i was driving to go get breakfast tacos because i was starving and i woke

00:02:09.140 up and i thought i'm not having oatmeal today that will devastate me and i thought i'm gonna

00:02:14.940 get breakfast tacos and i drove and got them and i was on the road what do those mean to you

00:02:18.900 I'm tired.

00:02:19.420 Egg in a tortilla?

00:02:20.640 What does that mean to you?

00:02:21.240 Yeah, flour, tortilla, egg, you know, beans, cheese.

00:02:25.360 Really simple.

00:02:26.780 Really, really simple.

00:02:28.380 I'm glad to hear the beans in there. 0.99

00:02:30.040 I used to get a breakfast taco from this place called, fuck, what was it called? 0.98

00:02:37.700 It doesn't matter if it was in the East Village. 0.99

00:02:39.620 And I get it sometimes on the way to work.

00:02:41.400 I get these two little mini breakfast tacos.

00:02:43.300 And then also this little mini muffin or cupcake or something.

00:02:47.160 It was like, it was really specific

00:02:48.920 You know when you get into a specific food

00:02:50.880 As like a familiar taste of the mornings

00:02:53.880 Oh my god, all those mornings in New York

00:02:55.780 When I had my spot

00:02:57.620 I mean, shout out to Abraco 1.00

00:02:58.920 In the East Village 0.66

00:03:00.220 Shout out to what? 1.00

00:03:02.280 Abraco

00:03:02.800 But I think in Portuguese it's Abraco

00:03:06.960 I don't know 0.69

00:03:08.300 And what would you get from them?

00:03:11.180 I would get incredible coffee

00:03:13.040 I would get an olive oil loaf

00:03:14.860 And I was smoking at the time

00:03:16.780 So I'd walk with my cigarette

00:03:18.840 I'd have my beautiful cup of coffee with half and half

00:03:21.400 And a slice of olive oil cake

00:03:23.980 Me smoking a cigarette

00:03:26.080 Can you imagine?

00:03:28.040 Was this pre-smartphone?

00:03:29.400 Yeah, sure it was

00:03:30.740 So eyes on the road

00:03:32.320 Eyes on faces, eyes on trees

00:03:34.620 Pre-smartphone

00:03:36.620 Versus head straight in the phone

00:03:38.060 Versus head straight

00:03:39.600 A cigarette plus phone

00:03:41.180 I guess you see, but now that people have a phone

00:03:43.760 I never smoked while I had a smartphone

00:03:45.920 wait okay it replaced it yeah yeah it gave you something to do smoking without a smartphone is

00:03:51.320 i highly recommend it yeah well you know it's fun to encourage smoking um you know what i mean

00:03:57.440 like just like yeah do it like pick it up for a little while like i love to encourage someone 0.98

00:04:03.320 to have a cigarette you know like ah fuck it yeah it's it's meanwhile i wouldn't touch the stuff 0.99

00:04:08.480 Right. I've been eating croissants in the mornings and, uh, uh, and it's, it's, it's been a damn joy. I was thinking a lot about, cause it's in that Marian Woodman addiction to perfection book. She talks about like, you know, women and food issues and all food is stolen inherently from the witch archetype in the self that is the withholding mother. And so, so all food is stolen. And I believe that's why, um, uh, it is a pleasure in eating the croissant out of the paper bag itself. 0.99

00:04:38.480 versus taking it out and plating it. Did we talk about this

00:04:40.500 last week? No.

00:04:41.800 This has been really heavy for me.

00:04:44.200 Just reaching into the paper bag.

00:04:46.360 Reaching into the paper bag and pulling

00:04:48.200 out your fingertips, pulling

00:04:50.560 the croissant from

00:04:52.380 itself. Versus

00:04:54.240 the plate, which... Resting on a plate.

00:04:56.480 Because plating it is kind of like, I'm having

00:04:58.400 a treat. Yeah, exactly. Right.

00:05:00.400 Like making it dignified instead of just what it

00:05:02.380 actually is, reaching into the paper bag vulva

00:05:04.480 to procure... 0.63

00:05:06.260 Yes. To pull out... The delicacy.

00:05:08.100 yeah and god to pull oh my god when it pulls croissant apart okay and feel that tension and

00:05:14.820 then the release and then just to inhale the air on the inside of the croissant the grease

00:05:18.740 staining the bag and when it flakes off where are you with chocolate croissants zero interest

00:05:25.100 literally give me a death feeling for you oh my god i had a feeling you were gonna can you believe

00:05:29.800 it because i love it whereas i welcome it i take almost any breakfast for years as like a middle

00:05:35.320 schooler wow it was chocolate it was a croissant stuffed with nutella this is my mother to me i've

00:05:41.600 never had nutella um of course due to the nuts yeah yeah but it's sublime yeah to me it's like

00:05:48.180 the very thing that's good about a croissant is only interrupted by the chocolate taste like i'm

00:05:52.540 like get that chocolate taste out of here i can get the chocolate taste over eating chocolate it's

00:05:56.440 just it's just and you know chocolate is so sweet you're not that into chocolate are you no i'm a

00:06:00.680 hound for it remember me with the with the with the choco hound i mean i didn't know that i've

00:06:06.220 pulled myself away from it but you know i've pulled myself off but but then i'll binge the

00:06:11.320 the lilies uh you know stevia ones to a point stevia erythritol to a point of you know profound

00:06:17.280 abdominal distension but yeah no chocolate like it's an ecstasy that i just once i start and then

00:06:25.300 i'm going and the brain is just the brain is just firing i understand and i just want it to keep

00:06:31.020 going but yeah to me croissant the what if i insisted on calling it crescent roll because

00:06:36.840 like i didn't want to like you know like a croissant you know like like in humiliation of

00:06:43.900 going for it but yeah croissant i'd rather a piece of cheese in there than a piece of chocolate if it

00:06:49.280 had to be something wow well again that would be a hard that would be a tough i always lean savory

00:06:54.480 gruyere ham

00:06:56.100 honestly let's get real about gruyere

00:06:58.400 okay okay great do we like

00:07:00.980 it like yep we do

00:07:02.500 no no no let's get real Kate let's get real

00:07:04.960 do you like it yes

00:07:06.740 I do okay take a minute

00:07:08.760 with that because I'm starting to wonder

00:07:10.620 if we're not where are you with manchego

00:07:12.740 I mean it's perfect

00:07:14.680 see I'm I'm

00:07:16.520 over manchego if you say over meaning

00:07:18.720 you suggested it was a la mode

00:07:20.900 and then it was no longer

00:07:22.580 i mean a la mode as in you know of the times on top of the style no i not on top oh i mean

00:07:29.920 because i think technically that's what a la mode means oh all the mode right right technically

00:07:34.240 yeah no i i do enjoy gruyere a sharp cheddar to me reigns supreme well yes gouda aged gouda i don't 0.99

00:07:40.940 want to see a smoked gouda anywhere near me i'll knock it out of your goddamn hand if you bring it 0.98

00:07:44.840 the smoke gouda i mean it's like it's a diversion and a shock when you pop it in your mouth oh so 0.99

00:07:49.840 what is the deal with the rind on the smoked gouda i can never get a straight answer out of

00:07:53.660 that cheese about whether i hate that they're not smoking it right they're like it's a chemical

00:07:58.540 yeah it's like a chemical it's like they come is it treated or is it spritzed is it spritzed on i

00:08:05.580 don't believe that there's a big old smoker there at the factory and they're smoking it all morning

00:08:09.860 i think it's like some kind of like dry ice situation that simulates smoke and they're

00:08:14.960 they're letting the yeah they're spraying it down right that's why when you go into the center of

00:08:21.300 piece of gouda there's no smoke it's only on the edges exactly rinse your good smoke gouda off

00:08:25.980 still if it's still smoked but here's the thing the gruyere i feel like i i'm actually having

00:08:32.360 trouble calling to mind the taste of gruyere despite probably having it three times this

00:08:36.560 week in a variety of dishes where i choose it because it sounds good yeah oh i'll have the

00:08:44.000 omelet with a gruyere okay and you're like yeah i just can't i'm surprised that you're over manchego

00:08:47.800 when you consider that to me manchego has i don't crave manchego it's such a sharp cheddar quality

00:08:55.120 relatively relatively it's in the realm manchego has a bit of a powderiness do you know what i'm

00:08:59.660 talking about i knew it was going to be textural for you i knew it was going to be textual i'm not

00:09:03.440 one of these texture people like when people are like yeah it's a texture thing for me i'm like

00:09:07.760 well get over it yeah it's like is it or is it or is it the is it the sugar coursing through your

00:09:12.200 veins yeah no the texture argument has never held for me has never held the cupcake not the sugar

00:09:17.920 and the carbs yeah people that scream texture i see that there is something amiss scream texture

00:09:25.340 and there's such a um brag embedded i know it's like in claiming exactly the flavor actually isn't

00:09:31.940 even registering it's the texture yeah or like or like the feeling of the weight of it hitting my

00:09:36.260 belly is it's not about that no no it's not about you know it's not about burying the feelings

00:09:41.740 under a blanket of food it's it's actually just a sort of um an aesthetic experience you know

00:09:48.780 what did i have last night i i bullied my way into via carota and um late night pocho and what

00:09:56.160 did i get oh i got i got a i got a frito misto it's a fried seafood okay well let's call it what

00:10:03.220 it is okay it's fried cod it's fried calamari um it's fried uh shrimp piled high fresh two lemons

00:10:12.340 for squeezing and i had the insulata verde which you know is famously delicious it uses a white

00:10:18.180 wine vinegar vinegar and the preparation for the via corona uh insulata verde is is online you can

00:10:26.660 see it and it involves oh putting the lettuce in cold water and making it happy in there oh i love

00:10:31.940 that yeah i love to energize kale in cold water honestly honestly i mean kale i haven't i just

00:10:41.360 realized so beyond bored i've not been buying groceries i've been a really bad girl what have

00:10:47.800 you been doing i just realized like when did i go grocery i've just been i've been eating out 0.83

00:10:52.120 like a little slut on the town perfect example this morning waking up i i found some bread in 0.99

00:10:58.620 my fridge but I was like this isn't even fresh anymore like I couldn't even make toast you see 1.00

00:11:02.300 what I'm saying I had to I had to go get breakfast tacos in order to eat wow because there was no

00:11:06.400 food I was like I'm not making oatmeal I already said that but yeah yeah um I you know this is a

00:11:12.760 moment of I have to push through and realize that I'm strong because right now I'm having

00:11:16.480 internal fear that I'll never wake up today but that's not going to happen I'm I feel so tired

00:11:21.460 Jacqueline help but what is it let me work it through why are you tired okay so dairy before

00:11:26.560 bed i've heard that and oh dairy doesn't have please the dairy line i know the dairy lie is

00:11:32.060 is utter foolery and i cannot go to sleep without a piece of cheese patting it's it's i'm sorry but

00:11:38.480 a piece of a square piece of not square i mean one of the you know the cracker cut yeah cut okay

00:11:45.080 of the cheddar yeah love those pre-cut deflated rectangle cuts yeah and then and then i lay that

00:11:52.320 on my tongue and then I eat it and it just feels like a tiny blanket on my spirit on my mind a

00:11:57.880 tiny blanket tucking me in for the night piece of cheese yeah I'm so I mean I went to bed at maybe

00:12:03.460 one okay no that's not that's early I mean then I woke up Jacqueline 8 30 okay so you got seven

00:12:12.040 did you happen to wear your muse s to sleep that I hawked our spirits for to get for free to track

00:12:18.820 you're sleeping kate because it could change everything for you i want to hide the the muse

00:12:25.240 s headband somehow in my hair it's impossible and then wear it on stage and track my brain waves

00:12:31.580 and see wear it one night and just that'll be a special night i think it might distract you can

00:12:37.640 last night a fly landed on my arm and i left it there for like a minute and talked about it for

00:12:44.760 a while and just like it didn't move and i told you about a fly previously this is another one

00:12:50.060 they're they're kind of they've really taken to the theater in the in the heat that's and it just

00:12:53.840 i stared at it and you know it's interesting because you know how we talk about like you

00:12:57.420 the courage that comes about when you're being filmed like you can you can hold a snake if you're

00:13:02.260 being filmed you can take a shot if you're being filmed yeah i mean a shot in the arm yeah i felt

00:13:07.400 like on stage i could comment on this fly that had landed on my arm even though normally i'd

00:13:12.040 I'd flick it off.

00:13:13.060 It was like I was able to to be present with it.

00:13:16.460 Yeah.

00:13:16.740 I told you that someone thought the fly was a plant.

00:13:19.000 Yes, that's unreal.

00:13:20.500 Isn't that sensational?

00:13:21.800 On last week's episode.

00:13:23.240 And it's like becoming like, well, how could you say it's not a plant when it happens nightly?

00:13:27.600 I know.

00:13:27.980 I try not to give the same lines every time.

00:13:31.660 Those moments. 1.00

00:13:32.740 There's been some poog fans at the show. 1.00

00:13:34.420 I've appreciated they haven't screamed out poog hags from the crowd because that would be distracting. 1.00

00:13:38.800 They would never. 1.00

00:13:39.520 I've heard some chatter on the way in and out.

00:13:41.040 you know oh oh i love to monitor chatter do you monitor your audience's chatter oh well i try in

00:13:47.380 different ways i'm thinking of upping the tech you know just sort of dropping a a wire in the

00:13:52.140 lobby um well you know you know that old jerry lewis leave leaves his suitcase behind in the

00:13:57.420 meeting thing oh my god then he comes back and goes oh i forgot my briefcase and he's recording

00:14:02.160 in there so what they say about him when he left the room now could you handle that somebody i know

00:14:06.860 somebody who did that who copied that for auditions no left was leaving her phone inside

00:14:12.640 audition rooms that is oh my god i left my phone by the way the strength to listen to that recording 0.99

00:14:18.000 well that's the question i have for you god she's insufferable well you remember i think you remember 0.92

00:14:22.680 because i think you were with me that one time an executive at a network ran into me at a at the 0.90

00:14:28.920 airport on the way to a comedy festival okay and you and me might have been on the plane together

00:14:35.300 i don't know it was it was there were a couple women like like joe firestone maybe um maybe a

00:14:41.360 partner and sherilla and it was like maybe you i forget but it was like some of us were on the

00:14:45.120 plane whatever and and there was some acknowledgement that to this this exec i get on the plane and then

00:14:50.620 when i get off the plane there's an email in my inbox that's an accidental send to me okay

00:14:57.540 between the tv exec and some other tv exec from that from that same network okay and they're just

00:15:05.020 going like ran into uh jacqueline novak at the airport um oh she did that thing for us that it

00:15:11.100 was too weird we didn't we didn't do it but um oh no they go they go they go but she but she's

00:15:15.820 she's going to be hanging out with firestone and and nancherla or something okay so i'm going to

00:15:20.520 try to get drinks with them during it was literally an email like saying and then they're

00:15:25.980 like oh yeah jacqueline she's too weird they said that in the reply okay so i see jacqueline

00:15:30.840 Novak she's too weird and they sent this to you yes okay that is so scary so it just says it says

00:15:37.180 it says like you know like almost like I'm at the one exec to another I'm at the airport I run

00:15:41.920 under Novak well she's too weird obviously but you know she she's friends with these other girls

00:15:45.500 I'm going to try to meet up with them can you imagine what did you say Jacqueline well I went

00:15:49.520 with silence at first okay to wait and give them time to suffer because actually if I yell at them

00:15:54.940 immediately that actually relieves the tension for them yeah totally so I want to let them sit

00:15:59.520 it okay for a little while and so they do and then i drafted all sorts of things in my mind

00:16:04.820 chris suggested just unsubscribe oh my god yeah he's running back all caps unsubscribe

00:16:10.440 um and then and then we worked on a few different ideas but i think i ultimately didn't i try to

00:16:16.320 think did i i can't remember it's like one of these things that like it sits there it's like 0.97

00:16:20.000 i i wake in the night going you know is today the day i reply and go by the way this was shit 1.00

00:16:24.060 you fuck bags 1.00

00:16:25.720 you disgusting shit bags 1.00

00:16:27.480 who's weird now 1.00

00:16:28.620 so embarrassing

00:16:30.900 them saying him saying it was a him

00:16:34.300 saying Firestone

00:16:35.580 you see what I'm saying

00:16:37.380 about colleague Joe Firestone

00:16:39.180 she's going to be hanging out with Firestone

00:16:41.020 so I'm going to try to get in there 1.00

00:16:42.140 disgusting

00:16:42.960 we have to go to break 0.67

00:16:44.300 I love that story though

00:16:45.340 can you believe it

00:16:45.980 this is Ryder Strong

00:16:50.180 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather

00:16:52.400 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:16:58.400 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:17:02.160 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:17:03.460 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:17:07.080 No, I am not your guru.

00:17:10.880 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:17:13.500 I lied to police.

00:17:14.760 I lied to everybody.

00:17:15.760 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:17:18.720 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:17:21.160 to interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out

00:17:26.140 what actually happened. Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:17:30.500 and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of

00:17:36.160 to come around here and my wife. Boom, boom. This is The Red Weather. Listen to The Red Weather 1.00

00:17:43.640 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:17:51.160 and we're back and we're back i i'm racking my brain like do i not have a story like that

00:17:59.760 talking it seems like that i'm so scared i have the opposite thing where i'm so afraid that

00:18:05.460 someone's going to hear me talk about them that i have to like take out of town trips just to have

00:18:09.780 a conversation do you know what i mean like i'm so scared a weekend away to have even three and

00:18:14.120 obviously there's a thing of like oh you're calling the person they're hearing the conversation right

00:18:17.680 that's scary oh yeah like accidental but sometimes if i'm if i'm talking shit on text as we all do

00:18:24.500 but although never mind i was trying to be virtuous just now i don't really talk that much 0.94

00:18:29.740 shit i was trying to be like man but i was sometimes if i'm sending you know you're like 0.74

00:18:35.120 look at who i'm sending this to this person i'm talking you have to double back and you have to 0.96

00:18:38.280 check because it's so scary because people really do that i have a friend who was in the middle of

00:18:43.780 a breakup and she texted this long thing accidentally to the person she was about to

00:18:52.000 break up with about like yeah I just got to do it like it's just I'm like it's weighing on me yeah

00:18:57.980 and texted it to the person and then the person was like well I mean can you imagine and then

00:19:05.120 it's almost like is that a blessing hearing about this well it is right I mean or like you know

00:19:10.820 the accident it's actually kind of a great it's a it's a great tactic to text it's not a well the

00:19:16.360 accidental the accidental on purpose text yeah oh my god i thought i invented but larry david

00:19:21.560 also invented what was it it's like where you pretend to have accidentally so so it would be

00:19:27.880 like you know um if i wanted you to be like jealous or something or i wanted okay i would i

00:19:34.580 would i just this is a bad example but i'd be like kate i love you and then this is a terrible

00:19:40.240 let me think of a better example uh accidental on purpose you were amazing last night and you

00:19:46.400 said to someone that you're saying i didn't this is the wrong god it's the wrong kate yeah i'm so

00:19:51.980 sorry you're right you're in my phone right next to like that sort of thing oops i didn't mean to

00:19:56.920 send this you know what's a funny idea yeah if you sent someone that you're trying to impress

00:20:01.400 right maybe a crush someone you're a little you're a little titillated by you want them to think

00:20:06.360 you're smart so you send just like a really smart anecdote to them totally and then say

00:20:10.420 yeah heidegger was always yeah you like you like oh my god no totally like that's the much like

00:20:18.920 better cleaner sort of way like yeah you just draw or you like you want someone to know something

00:20:23.580 like like these are the like romantic comedy like 90s romantic comedy versions like you know like

00:20:28.980 i want them to know that i'm living this life now that's so great so okay i'm gonna like send like

00:20:33.880 the thing about like yeah so i'll pick up my tesla at four or whatever and then like oops sorry i

00:20:41.160 didn't realize this was for you but can there be flirtation in the hyper surveillance state

00:20:46.240 you know what i mean like i'm just like we can we've actually we've been ruined we've been

00:20:51.800 ruined by this explain what you mean do you mean um with the government's watching sorry social

00:20:56.900 media i meant more social media and this thing of like access to everyone all the time and the

00:21:01.880 digging and the looking at the tagged photos and the you know all of it and it does there's no um

00:21:08.600 whatever i'm not going to actually be here to be like there's no eroticism because there's no

00:21:12.000 actual distance there's no searching there's no discovery there's nothing to

00:21:15.200 okay okay but what is falling apart for you of the point because it's interesting like half like

00:21:22.160 you're becoming deflated and going like is it because you feel like it's not even your point

00:21:25.220 or something yeah something it seems a little too obvious but there's something about as we know

00:21:28.860 this like the 24 hour access that we have to one another, right? The phone, you know, if someone

00:21:34.480 we're all on our phone. So when someone doesn't respond, I mean, it's just like, very occasionally

00:21:44.360 I'll have like three hours where I'm actually present in something. And I'm, you know, once

00:21:48.960 every three years, I won't look at my phone for three hours. And sometimes you go back to it and

00:21:52.620 you see the text and you go, Oh no, they are going to think that I was screening or I wasn't,

00:21:56.560 But I actually was lost in the field, you know, I live on Do Not Disturb.

00:22:00.640 That's right. You actually do.

00:22:02.060 Literally live on Do Not Disturb.

00:22:03.260 So it's called Moon and I call it Moon.

00:22:05.500 But I just feel like that permanent access to each other has robbed us of romance.

00:22:10.500 No, I remember even as a teen, okay, even as a teen girl, I remember feeling a disappointment at how much access I even had to, you know, potential crushes in the sense of school.

00:22:22.540 i remember wishing because i'd read these books like things would be simpler if i lived on this

00:22:26.980 like farm in the 1800s or something okay and you know there was like a single boy like on like the

00:22:34.080 next farm over and like having to like run out like basically i mourned the fact that i was like

00:22:39.420 allowed and able to like interact with like boys right i was like i wish it was forbidden and i

00:22:46.000 wish i had to like run to like the the stone wall like in the middle of the night and like try to

00:22:51.480 like climb up and like steal a kiss you know what i mean right like i was just like disappointed

00:22:55.640 almost by like like oh i can stand at a party and like do anything you know like i wanted the i

00:23:02.920 wanted yeah i wanted the wall i wanted the um the montagues versus the capulets i had that removal

00:23:07.940 because i went going to an all-girls school there was something you know all-girls school seventh

00:23:12.840 grade through senior year right oh right so there was kind of this the eroticization of the other

00:23:17.980 well the othering the othering of you know if you're at a girl school and thus uh you know

00:23:23.540 maleness has been othered then is that just is that what's creating you know the hetero no one

00:23:30.260 gives more bjs than the all girl school crowd right well because they what is it they sit around

00:23:36.820 like it's like all you do is sit around prepping all you do is talk about bjs all day and actually 0.94

00:23:42.500 you could talk about it like louder because like exactly i remember in the seventh grade

00:23:46.120 because all my friends were really like hot girls who were like on birth control i took

00:23:52.000 i i got on birth control when i had never been kissed i mean i just like wanted to be involved

00:23:58.060 how young were the girls that were on birth control uh i don't know 15 yeah okay maybe

00:24:05.000 fair enough i guess i'm sure but i remember like specifically this one girl i won't say her name

00:24:09.500 to protect her identity but i just remember like because our school also started at 7 40 a.m 1.00

00:24:14.860 and she had like she had like tried anal like the previous sun like at night like the previous night

00:24:21.200 and it was like 7 40 a.m and i was like oh my god no i don't think so but but um yeah everybody 0.94

00:24:29.120 was going wild you ever look back years later and go oh they were lying like yeah of course

00:24:33.100 you start to repeat a story that from someone children were lying like well my friend you had

00:24:37.940 a ghost in his attic he told me that it said my name or whatever and then you're like this girl

00:24:42.040 oh no this blonde hot girl frankie told me what a pearl necklace was and she also introduced me

00:24:47.440 to the band modest mouse in the same day of course she did i'm sorry but is a pearl necklace like 0.99

00:24:53.080 semen around your neck or something yeah yeah so dumb i hate so stupid i'm not impressed i'm sorry 1.00

00:24:59.320 i'm not impressed heterosexual sex is a fucking embarrassment i'm not impressed with that with 1.00

00:25:05.120 pearl necklace as a cute you know euphemism like those euphemisms are just always like 1.00

00:25:11.580 an annoying reach to me i don't know it's like that one really annoys me i mean i remember the

00:25:16.160 first time i heard you know the word i hate to even say it what come okay i remember the first

00:25:22.060 time i heard it it was it was at a lunch table and this guy said like that might it doesn't make

00:25:27.400 any sense he said that my chicken noodle soup he goes it looks like come okay and i was like

00:25:32.440 yeah wait what because i just heard a verb that means to go you know like i was like confused

00:25:38.660 I was like, why am I hearing the verb form of to go?

00:25:41.920 Like, it was just like in that, like, that looks like gone.

00:25:45.840 You know, like that looks like.

00:25:47.280 Did you ask him to clarify?

00:25:49.180 I think I did.

00:25:50.400 I think I still had the innocence enough.

00:25:53.600 I hadn't been shamed for asking questions enough yet.

00:25:57.180 So I think I just did.

00:25:58.600 And then he was, you know, then it became, you don't know what that is, you know?

00:26:02.280 Oh, no. 0.99

00:26:02.740 And I remember this girl explaining this thing, saying this is what a penis felt like. 0.99

00:26:10.240 She crossed her fingers like you're making a steeple. 0.99

00:26:14.580 Oh, yeah.

00:26:15.040 I had that, too.

00:26:16.240 And then you feel the edges of your fingers.

00:26:19.700 And I'll do a visual in case this ends up on the.

00:26:22.660 And so this way, if you want to do it yourself, it would be like you do this.

00:26:25.440 That looks amazing.

00:26:26.320 Just keep doing that.

00:26:27.200 It looks like.

00:26:27.720 How am I doing it?

00:26:29.100 It looks like you have four hands.

00:26:31.460 It's like a Rorschach.

00:26:32.740 Yeah. Whoa. It looks like you have a full chicken in you. It looks like a chicken.

00:26:36.680 Ew. It does look like a chicken ready to be stuffed. Um, so, so yes. So she like held

00:26:45.400 out her fingers with her two middle fingers pressed together. And then you were supposed

00:26:49.080 to like feel that with your, with your fist in order to, and it was like, that's what a 1.00

00:26:53.260 penis feels like. And it was like, it feels really other. Cause it's like a weird feeling 0.99

00:26:57.460 where your fingers suddenly don't feel like your fingers. But then the only way to do

00:27:00.760 it yourself is to try to feel it with your two fingers like this which of course is never how

00:27:05.160 anyone would ever feel the genitals right right right oh this lets me know what it would be like 0.61

00:27:10.380 to have my hands clenched in a bizarro position like reaching with two index fingers can there

00:27:18.140 be erotics i would argue the internet the hyper eroticism of the internet in fact robbed us not

00:27:24.320 only of our bodies you know there's well what we all what we all need we need the cloak that covers

00:27:30.620 so that the cloak can be pulled back you know right well as foucault of course the lie that

00:27:36.680 sex is taboo right sex is not taboo we've it's you know couldn't be more um flagrantly out in

00:27:43.920 the open right we've come up with the mosaic of language to constantly discuss sex ruminate on

00:27:49.960 sex the pleasure of pretending to hide something so it can be uncovered pushing something into

00:27:56.180 darkness so you can enjoy the thrill of bringing it out of darkness it was never in darkness you 1.00

00:28:01.080 pushed it there because you wanted to bring it out it was already light on it you fucking whore 1.00

00:28:05.720 yeah you put it in a drawer you put it in a drawer because you just love to open a drawer 1.00

00:28:09.260 exactly you just love opening drawers you can open a curtain when there you know there needn't be

00:28:13.400 but also that is you know the nature of i mean that is what we bring to this this world we bring

00:28:19.200 to this natural world, you know, facade, but artifice, you know, and artifice is our great

00:28:26.060 offering as human beings. I was just imagining you and me, if we were Foucault's best friends,

00:28:31.600 I was just imagining if you and me were Foucault's best friends, okay, you and me, these two hags, 0.91

00:28:35.820 okay, who were closely Foucault, gave him all of his ideas, okay, at dinner nightly. And we like, 0.95

00:28:41.360 he was a pig, you know, I know nothing like, I mean, I read one of his books, but he was a pig, 0.93

00:28:45.740 and we gave him all his ideas and was imagining us at this like cafe uh in france at night and 0.95

00:28:51.180 we're sort of like he's a pig i mean just like i like imagining us in curious in curious settings

00:28:58.380 i know me too trust me trust oh i'll trust me um do you have spiders in your home and if you see a 0.92

00:29:05.860 spider i have a bug catcher that i am thrilled with that allows you to safely take a spider

00:29:11.540 outside. Is it, um, is it that thing like that tubular thing? It's not a tube has a magnifying

00:29:17.220 glass attachment. So you can really look at it too. Cause I have a fear and complete obsession

00:29:21.820 and fascination with insects. And like, I'm for example, terrified of wasps, like terrified

00:29:27.040 bees wasps, but I could, I could stare at wasps for hours. Like they were building a nest outside

00:29:32.040 my window and I was able to stare at the wasps and I could just do that. I mean, I was just

00:29:36.660 truly fascinated but so scared right so scared last night oh yeah we're talking about the

00:29:42.040 spiritual significance of like certain insects like like you know i've had these flies and i'm

00:29:46.680 like so what is that is there something going on like i came home last night flipped on the

00:29:51.100 light in my bedroom there was a big black spider in the center of the wall above my bed which i

00:29:55.140 of course took oh i have four days to live right charlotte's web important to you at all charlotte's

00:29:59.640 web no no i i mean i made a pretty big impression on me as a child but that's also because we did

00:30:04.740 it as a play i don't really remember it i can see the cover i'm sure i read it it's it's brilliant

00:30:09.660 it's actually it simply is okay what's it about a pig it's about a pig a runt pig and a spider

00:30:17.680 who talks um and i think there's a wait i think there's a rat and and uh and the spider i think

00:30:26.240 in order damn i'm gonna get this wrong but it might but it'll be spiritually right which i

00:30:30.360 think will be funny so let me let me see if i can pull it forth from a version from my brain 0.97

00:30:34.160 So what I'm imagining is a runt pig that they save from from killing because it's the runt.

00:30:40.040 So it's not pork meat anyway. 0.96

00:30:42.240 Or he was just going to be killed because he was a runt.

00:30:45.240 And no, he's our pet.

00:30:46.540 And then no, you know, to save his life, the spider starts writing things in the web like terrific, like the word terrific.

00:30:54.780 And then like the pig becomes like a sensation and they go to the fair and it's like, oh, this is adorable.

00:30:59.700 I had no idea.

00:31:00.780 It's heavy.

00:31:01.460 i'm screwing it up but it's it's really really heavy and i i don't know if i should spoil i

00:31:07.220 think i mean but spiders only live so long okay got it yeah i feel like i can i think it's safe

00:31:12.560 i mean it's a full thing but at the end like she she grows old and um she dies but she there's a

00:31:18.880 she's given birth to babies and you see all the babies and you know that life continues but she's

00:31:23.300 just very a very wise and lovely spider i love that and i remember being afraid of a spider in

00:31:29.360 the corner of my room when i was a little kid and you know my dad saying the spider's more afraid of

00:31:33.880 you than oh yeah it's a classic a classic and sort of me going um not so sure actually yeah

00:31:39.700 yeah it looks pretty stoic over there oh yeah it's we gotta go to break on that okay we're

00:31:46.900 going to break and there's nothing you can do to stop us this is rider strong and i have a new

00:31:55.400 podcast called the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea

00:32:02.200 in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head

00:32:07.620 around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied

00:32:16.960 to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years right where i could not say your

00:32:22.940 name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern california interview my friends family

00:32:27.240 talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find out what actually happened isn't it a

00:32:32.660 little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they

00:32:36.940 have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of come around here and my wife boom boom

00:32:43.820 this is the red weather listen to the red weather on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever

00:32:51.080 you get your podcasts well we're back and i do want to talk about cgm something i was googling

00:33:04.320 in the morning you know i wake up an idea comes to me that's continuous glucose monitoring actually

00:33:10.120 i wasn't googling it in the morning oh is that the little pen that you blow into no i already

00:33:14.140 have one of those keto um but it's related this and i i act like i see this is really sick this

00:33:20.300 really shows the insidiousness of advertising okay but because i just remembered it as me

00:33:25.080 waking up and googling something when in fact i saw an ad on instagram for a glucose monitor

00:33:29.660 continuous glucose monitor and then i started googling okay before i just buy that one based

00:33:34.260 on the whatever and so anyway stick it in your arm has a tiny filament it's not in your arm

00:33:40.540 yeah a tiny filament that goes into the skin okay but not it's not as much as a needle it's very

00:33:46.800 very very very thin and it measures blood glucose via the interstitial uh the the fluid that

00:33:53.040 surrounds the cells and you know you eat something and you see whether it spikes you or whether it

00:33:58.740 keeps you even and it's just appealing what do you do with that info well you go hey when i eat this

00:34:04.300 well like the example one example is i mean look it's it's more for for diabetics but then i was

00:34:09.340 like i like it was like let's see what the keto i know the keto community would get into this

00:34:13.420 So I started poking around and they're like, it lets people to assess whether the croissant is spiking their blood sugar or not, because depending on certain like genetic factors, some are more susceptible to the spikes in the blood sugar based on them.

00:34:26.700 So in theory, you could get the blood glucose monitor and realize that carbs are perfectly, perfectly healthy for you.

00:34:33.960 Oh, so that's kind of the shock.

00:34:36.240 You know what I mean?

00:34:36.820 it's really it's once again it's about you know it's it's me choosing to not want to uh just do

00:34:44.000 the thing on the off chance it's like yes i we it's wanting to ride the line it's wanting to

00:34:49.320 eat just as many carbs as is as healthy for me do you know what i'm saying versus just like

00:34:54.180 cutting something out it's like it's like i always yeah i want to do the minimum i want to

00:34:58.100 i signed up for the tracy anderson 14 day you know it starts free so did i so tracy anderson

00:35:04.260 is a workout um you know for for like i don't know 40 years or something or 20 years 20 years

00:35:11.980 but like she's just tracy anderson has been the name in fitness for a long time right her workout 0.99

00:35:18.860 videos don't have music and she's in front of a mirror doing this dance music list with no 0.97

00:35:26.540 instruction you're supposed to follow her i'm sorry i'm sorry there must be music there must

00:35:31.020 to do music. There's just no talking or instruction. She won't look at you, which I find

00:35:36.140 powerful. I read on the website specifically, it said it said, yes, so she does not guide you

00:35:42.900 through the exercises. OK, you just have to pick it up. And they're like, she doesn't because

00:35:47.280 actually she discovered in the lessons that I mean, in the workshops with her test subjects,

00:35:52.620 that the guided instruction kept them out of their bodies and that she's able to keep them

00:35:57.700 more engaged when they're desperately trying to follow which actually makes some sense to me

00:36:02.280 because you can't turn it off in the same way you can't you can't just sort of space out and go into

00:36:06.360 the you know up down up right right right right you're you're wildly trying to follow and that

00:36:12.660 i could see like when i do these tap dance videos that i got these tap dance workout videos

00:36:17.820 that i purchased i'm wildly trying to keep up with the moves and so i don't even notice that

00:36:23.260 i'm exercising you know it's um really it's just uh but but anyway i signed up i just i keep signing

00:36:29.220 up for things in the night you know and and waking up and going where's my confirmation email

00:36:33.500 what about when you don't get a confirmation email for something you buy or sign up for

00:36:37.900 it is shocking you just reminded me that i bought this push-up bra yeah i was out with my friend and 0.99

00:36:42.400 i was like did she get a banging boob job because i was just like what i was like your tits look 1.00

00:36:49.480 incredible and she was like i don't have any and i said yeah all right lady and she had this bra 1.00

00:36:56.440 that like it's like a it cups just the front and it smashes your tits together and i bought one i 0.90

00:37:03.900 had one margarita i bought one on the spot it's a weird thing that it never came couldn't access 0.98

00:37:09.400 the confirmation and that's something and i and i think about it haunting where to go you need to

00:37:14.800 reach out no because this i remember double clicking to purchase yeah yeah anyway so this

00:37:19.660 bra that i i could have sworn it was like 42 okay it's nowhere i'm sure it was okay and i go well

00:37:27.180 was i so i was scammed what happened or did i just somehow not press maybe i didn't even buy it

00:37:32.160 maybe i didn't even buy it phantom purchase phantom purchase could have been a phantom

00:37:36.680 purchase i mean you could go so far as to as to reach out to the company and say i don't know

00:37:41.120 whether I purchased or not and I don't know whether to be furious and by the way you have

00:37:45.880 to stay on top of them because I bought a bucket hat that I actually now regret and I bought it

00:37:49.780 from this company I go where the hell's my hat I dm them on Instagram hi checking in they go oh

00:37:54.900 we're so sorry somehow that didn't get process so you mean to tell me I'm so I have to I have

00:37:59.840 to track my own hat no that is is that what I'm trying is that what you're telling me people

00:38:04.580 it's like I thought when I gave you the money out of my account that the deal was done I was

00:38:10.420 saying you track this yeah you track this now yeah i thought you would handle the handing over

00:38:15.440 the product as i handed over the cold hard cash i bought some shoes are you familiar with this 0.95

00:38:20.600 brand mista no hey if you're listening mista i'd love a free goddamn sandal because i there it's

00:38:26.880 quite expensive they have this less expensive line i bought two pairs i was again the constant 0.88

00:38:32.580 search for the perfect summer sandal i think they were on my instagram feed today actually

00:38:36.720 i'm sure sort of a square toed sandal they have different i guess who does an instagram shoe

00:38:41.940 it's very much an instagram shoe i was on the website i go this could be my summer sandal

00:38:46.820 yeah i did the fatal flaw fatal flaw people what'd you do no returns exchange only no returns

00:38:52.220 exchange only no returns exchange only so i i bought two pairs going oh it's fine because i

00:38:57.720 was skimming in bed saw 30 days something i went oh yeah i'm fine and no one so one of the shoes

00:39:05.660 again desperately searching for the summer sandal

00:39:07.920 I took them on a trip

00:39:09.280 they rip up my feet

00:39:11.120 wildly in the night

00:39:13.200 and then this other pair was hideous

00:39:16.000 beyond comprehension so I had to return

00:39:17.980 those

00:39:18.580 so I have an outstanding credit

00:39:21.740 and they've got some cute shoes on there 0.95

00:39:23.020 I'm not trying to shit talk here

00:39:25.220 I have a couple things to say because you were talking about the 0.97

00:39:27.700 miracle bra lifting and pressing 0.99

00:39:29.680 your breasts together 1.00

00:39:31.140 the problem with when they press them in 1.00

00:39:33.480 together to create cleavage is then 1.00

00:39:35.240 so now your breasts are this thing in the dead center of your chest like right like what about 0.71

00:39:42.220 the side now there's nothing over there like do you know what I mean like it's weird I haven't

00:39:47.040 thought about cleavage in so long cleavage for me I I never like I never really wanted it because I 0.99

00:39:53.260 only associated it with almost like you know older women in sitcoms in the 80s like the sluts okay 0.66

00:40:02.140 Like almost like, you know, in Golden Girls, like like cleavage to me. 0.89

00:40:05.960 I don't know.

00:40:06.620 Like, I don't have the associations with it that I have.

00:40:09.740 Like, I never wanted I never wanted that.

00:40:11.900 And I even feel like almost a shame, a shame when I when I have it.

00:40:15.960 It just looks like a it just looks like a crevice. 0.66

00:40:18.620 Like it looks like a sexual crevice that sure does just feels desperate to be just laying a crevice out there. 1.00

00:40:24.680 Well, it's an ass. 1.00

00:40:25.760 It's an ass on the front of your body. 1.00

00:40:27.500 Right. 1.00

00:40:28.000 That's the whole idea.

00:40:29.240 Right.

00:40:29.460 But I chased it so wildly in high school.

00:40:33.320 I had a water bra.

00:40:34.680 Are you familiar?

00:40:35.480 Oh, my God.

00:40:36.100 I forgot about that.

00:40:37.180 I had a water bra.

00:40:38.900 One of my best friends.

00:40:40.040 Now, where did you get it from?

00:40:41.420 Nordstrom.

00:40:42.320 No, I remember that.

00:40:42.960 That was very exciting because it was finally natural.

00:40:44.960 And if you ran around, it would shake.

00:40:46.680 You could hear the water.

00:40:48.060 If you moved around, you could hear the water.

00:40:50.680 Oh, wow.

00:40:51.940 There's a photo of me that I'll have to put it on the Pooh Instagram.

00:40:55.520 I barely recognize myself.

00:40:56.820 I'm wearing low-rise jeans.

00:40:58.680 i'm wearing a rhinestone cross necklace because i thought those were so cool i have a water bra on

00:41:05.500 my cleavage is it looks like the photograph that you you know put on the back of the mill carton

00:41:10.880 for a missing girl and i look hot right but i don't recognize myself right you're like she

00:41:15.940 took risks yeah you look like you were out at night like yeah like she went to a blink 182

00:41:20.820 concert yeah yeah it's so rude it's so rude like no it just it reminds me of it just really quick

00:41:26.520 when i remember the like e uh not e a lifetime or some network the introduction of their network

00:41:32.220 there were all these advertisements in new york you know in the subways and whatever

00:41:35.580 it was like for like maybe like one like a lifetime channel that was or it was one of those

00:41:40.500 crime channels like crime only channels and it was just like natalie holloway's like face okay

00:41:45.840 and it was like remember her she was like bahamas like famous missing dead case i think it was

00:41:52.700 bahamas jesus now whatever it doesn't matter anyway natalie holloway like famously murdered

00:41:57.360 right okay yeah and then like it was just like you know almost like her high school photo or

00:42:01.120 whatever like yeah and it's like the sort of indignity of like when she sat down and took

00:42:05.460 that high school photo you know the portrait to know that her that very photo that very photo

00:42:10.560 would be promoting the introduction of a new television network can you imagine my god i know 0.99

00:42:16.280 is that not i know stunning but anyway take oh cleavage but yeah so it's like yeah cleavage

00:42:22.200 always like i can't get excited about it and then similarly i remember being introduced to the

00:42:26.220 concept of toe cleavage okay which is the crevice but the crevice between the big toe and the next

00:42:32.060 toe over yes okay now so in a high heel imagine a high heel this is very early 2000s yes it is a

00:42:37.840 low uh where the you know the top of the shoe there on your heel isn't completely covering your

00:42:43.320 your toes yeah so there's little line between you see the line the cleavage they're kind of two toes 1.00

00:42:48.040 stuffed together creating yet another stuffed in there crevice for a mouse penis for a mouse penis 0.99

00:42:54.480 yeah and yeah it was toe cleavage they were like don't you know that's sexy and it's like 1.00

00:42:59.340 again there's something like it just looks very like squishy there's just something about this

00:43:03.520 sort of oh it's squishy it's squished together to me isn't you know i i'm drawn more towards

00:43:11.980 i don't know i don't know i guess i'm drawn if anything more towards the kind of um

00:43:16.060 separated breast and the deep plunge that kind of i'm monologuing because kate has uh sirens going

00:43:25.280 so i feel the need to just monologue through okay so we've got a major siren and i'm trying

00:43:29.900 to be quiet here i hope everyone's okay pray for the people in the ambulance did you have

00:43:34.420 any graveyard are there ever fun emergencies like oh my god there's a school of cats that

00:43:40.820 right you know we gotta help or like you know i guess there's no fun yeah yeah yeah yeah like

00:43:47.120 oh my god the candy factory there's a leak at the candy factory in the factory you know there's

00:43:52.940 chocolate everywhere do you remember do you're running running wait do you remember when they

00:44:01.400 were leaving money out in new york city and this was like a thing no this was like five years ago

00:44:05.740 it was like a i don't know social experiment where they were just like leaving envelopes

00:44:09.860 of cash around and sort of like dropping hints go to hell hints about where they were and i remember

00:44:13.780 like it was in like central park and we like we went out there one day just like strolled around

00:44:17.720 and saw people like hunting around for the cash and it was kind of thrilling to go like to go

00:44:22.820 like and they were like it's already they already found it was over by that rock you know like can

00:44:28.160 you imagine the camaraderie the camaraderie of like of like i was kind of like and we were kind

00:44:32.440 of like proudly you know not directly camaraderie until it turns violent well camaraderie among

00:44:38.020 those who'd come late, you know, who kind of decided to, you know, take their morning stroll,

00:44:42.600 at least in the direction of potential cash. Like we had the morning. I just want to, you say

00:44:46.420 morning stroll and that brought up a lot for me. Yeah. Morning stroll will save your life. I,

00:44:51.240 and listen, I, I, whenever I do a morning stroll, I know it's about myself, get the hell out of the

00:44:56.380 house. Even today, driving to get the breakfast taco tired, did something for me. I was tired in

00:45:00.380 the car, but there's sunlight on my face. I'm feeling it. I'm out in the world. I'm seeing

00:45:04.200 dogs i'm seeing children running after their mother's skirts you know i'm alive in the world

00:45:08.860 i the morning stroll will set you free and when i do that when i actually get up and go for a 0.96

00:45:18.020 goddamn stroll it can be two blocks to a coffee shop just something i'm changed and then you gotta

00:45:23.880 get out i'm not doing it and even though today although i still guess who's still not fully 0.98

00:45:28.620 awake me guess who's a little sleepy me where do you gotta go i guess nowhere i could get back in

00:45:35.220 bed but i don't know if that's strong i don't know if that's a strong idea wake up i think

00:45:39.540 you'll be fine and you go to bed early i mean who cares be a little tired i want to go to a

00:45:44.080 party tonight and i want to talk to the people who's that who's that who's that who's that

00:45:48.580 they'll be saying that about me yeah yeah no i feel that it's um it's there's a party tonight

00:45:54.460 There's a party tonight

00:45:55.560 Everyone's going

00:45:56.740 Including me

00:45:57.760 Who's going to be there?

00:45:59.020 Berlant's going to be there

00:46:00.060 Hey everyone

00:46:00.880 Oh I wish you were going to be there

00:46:02.800 I think I'm going to go to a party tonight

00:46:04.500 Where I don't really know anyone

00:46:06.820 No oh my god

00:46:08.220 And you're going to wander around

00:46:09.720 Being the curiosity

00:46:11.660 Eyes darting about

00:46:13.560 Looking and going

00:46:14.100 I don't really know anyone here

00:46:15.360 So it's great to talk to you

00:46:17.300 Yeah I'm going to claim my power

00:46:18.480 You're a genius at a party

00:46:20.180 Claim your power 0.98

00:46:21.120 I'm going to claim my power

00:46:21.920 At the party tonight

00:46:22.620 I'm going to have a smile on my face

00:46:24.320 I'm going to be friendly at the party

00:46:25.940 yes yes

00:46:27.520 you always are

00:46:29.680 you're very good at a party

00:46:31.840 you dance and we'll do that

00:46:33.000 you'll adjust the lighting

00:46:34.100 I've seen you arrive at a party

00:46:36.740 and adjust the lighting

00:46:37.660 when it's not even your party

00:46:38.980 and you'll do that tonight as well

00:46:40.580 God I have done that

00:46:41.640 on that note

00:46:42.780 I'm going to go make more java

00:46:44.580 I hate to leave but

00:46:46.040 I know

00:46:46.620 you know

00:46:47.360 I can go put my face on my cat

00:46:49.020 I think for a few minutes

00:46:49.880 and I'll sort of

00:46:50.520 do what it leads me to be done

00:46:52.000 yeah it's really nice

00:46:52.720 very mushy

00:46:53.860 goodbye friends and goodbye

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00:47:20.980 and drugs

00:47:22.540 No, I am not your guru.

00:47:26.220 Back then, I lied to everybody.

00:47:28.540 They have had this case for 30 years.

00:47:31.480 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 13, 2021

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