Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - It’s Just a Guy in His Car

00:00:00.800 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:00:02.340 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:00:03.440 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:00:08.160 Two uncamable intellects.

00:00:09.940 This is our hobby. 0.99

00:00:10.780 This is our hell.

00:00:11.640 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:00:13.940 This is POOG.

00:00:15.380 Today's topic, loosely speaking, terabytes, altitude sickness, soft breaking.

00:00:25.160 Hello?

00:00:25.960 Hello.

00:00:26.960 Oh wait, you're coming out of my computer.

00:00:29.140 Oh, wait.

00:00:29.460 Hold on, Kate.

00:00:30.120 Kate, don't. 0.86

00:00:30.700 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

00:00:32.540 Oh, no. 0.99

00:00:33.000 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

00:00:34.960 Stubtoe?

00:00:35.720 Stubtoe?

00:00:36.820 No, much worse.

00:00:38.000 Really bad.

00:00:38.740 Hold on.

00:00:39.560 Oh.

00:00:40.800 All right, all right.

00:00:44.660 It's coming down.

00:00:45.820 Hold on.

00:00:46.200 Breathe through it.

00:00:46.720 Oh, my God.

00:00:47.520 It'll pass.

00:00:48.580 Oh, no.

00:00:50.140 I just destroyed my knee.

00:00:53.140 Oh, no.

00:00:54.480 I just hit this corner of this wood desk.

00:00:57.060 Ow, ow, ow. 0.96

00:00:57.440 sharp ass corner and it went so deep and it's reverberating all through the thigh oh god oh 0.96

00:01:04.180 god i'm sorry that was unbelievable all right well i would post on poog but it's too graphic 0.65

00:01:10.320 i hit my toe so hard on the edge of my bed that naomi genuinely thought like it might be broken 0.87

00:01:17.020 did i send you a picture of it i cannot believe you didn't oh shit this reminds me i just found 0.80

00:01:22.320 measuring tape here i want to send you a picture of it so that you can on air react 0.53

00:01:26.920 because it was actually it's like amazing when something actually looks bad like the pain

00:01:32.460 god i have a lot okay so i just want to say it's reverberating all the way up to my hip bone oh

00:01:40.940 god i'm so sorry this is so sorry this is outlandish here to start with pain look at the

00:01:48.600 picture i just sent you of my tail it's better now let's see it oh hell yeah i love that it's

00:01:55.060 so satisfying because it's like that people would be people would be jerking again i see like

00:02:00.240 you know the feet people yeah i know because it's like so intimate of your foot in a way

00:02:07.360 i know like now i wonder if the foot person would be into the injury do they need to see

00:02:15.100 well sure you know but do they need to see

00:02:17.720 no i was wondering if they need okay if the eroticism isn't just feet it's caper lance

00:02:26.960 foot right yeah yeah it's like you know do they really want to see essentially this right

00:02:34.220 you know what i mean yeah do they it's mine right or their face behind it going like

00:02:40.440 it'd be like my foot yeah yeah right right hold on now now now i don't want this record now here's 0.97

00:02:48.420 what i'll say okay gonzo i'll say if the audio of this headphone is fucked i just can't decide 0.94

00:02:58.220 whether to go no no audio and use the the mic and the camera i mean which is a good better 0.66

00:03:04.760 microphone but then i won't be able to see you quite as well so how is it sounding to you do

00:03:08.580 the better mic i would say all right all right let me let me try but then you won't go really

00:03:13.580 why um i mean this audio is not terrible it's really hard for me to talk because also my

00:03:20.980 hearing is so crazy right now because i'm so congested that everything kind of sounds weird

00:03:25.620 right testing sounds pretty good testing testing i can't like find the microphone that way

00:03:31.700 testing where is it you just had it all i'm saying is that sometimes it's like

00:03:39.160 reporting from the edge and you know i think the listener can handle it okay so

00:03:46.440 so folks here's what we're trying to say here i've left my laptop in the seat back pocket

00:03:54.060 of delta columbus ohio to jfk yesterday wow jacklyn novak notices today when it's time to

00:04:02.520 record boog so did you instantly realize yeah no i go okay pop over to where it usually is now i've

00:04:09.680 been getting on a plane basically every day the last you know five days or whatever tour dates

00:04:14.220 and i have a routine i get on i slip usually my laptop into the tom bin kind of yeah that's where

00:04:22.680 thing and on this occasion I was in a sort of it was first class but it was a budget first class

00:04:35.260 you know it was like a small plane the leather chair yeah and two more inches of leather yeah

00:04:42.160 and I'm just thinking about it I'm going okay anyway I decide because I really like was into

00:04:50.680 know using my laptop and i really hate putting away my laptop when it's trying to take off

00:04:55.220 because i want to do what i'm doing i just i hate the laptop i basically under no circumstance have

00:05:03.820 my laptop out on a plane i'm not surprised really yeah it's i mean you're you're one of the you're

00:05:09.620 either you know you you've come in for your to you clock in as a tv watcher yeah i've seen you

00:05:15.840 even with me next to you right it's like it's like severance like do you watch severance at all

00:05:22.800 you know it's like they go in and they do their macro data filtering or whatever you know it's

00:05:28.140 like it's like this arbitrary weirdness right and the plane is like that was a tv what like okay um

00:05:35.060 and then like serious looking people people would like it's just like they're like they're like

00:05:39.140 it's like they're they're clocking in at their data job you know and they get they get started

00:05:46.020 and uh you're like you're like okay they're watching your friends and neighbors or whatever

00:05:49.400 you know like with the seriousness of whatever so oh i go yeah i'm gonna slip i'm gonna go

00:05:57.060 the seat back pocket is quite big oh it's scary yeah i go i'm just gonna slip it in there i go

00:06:02.880 because they're saying this thing also about under two pounds i'm like i think my laptop's

00:06:07.680 how long is the file to put it away it is like freaking hour 50 okay okay so put in my seat

00:06:16.280 back pocket then i can just grab for it you know as soon as i can i never do this god it's like

00:06:23.460 stop changing you know do the thing i always have to reinvent right and so whatever i i get off i

00:06:32.220 you know i'm tired man as you know i'm coming to new york dreamy okay i'm like and i'm gonna

00:06:37.520 I go see John early in what we did before our month days and you know,

00:06:41.880 hell yeah. 0.97

00:06:42.260 So fucking awesome. 0.97

00:06:43.440 New York, 0.98

00:06:43.960 whatever it rocks.

00:06:44.860 So I get there.

00:06:46.520 I don't take him out.

00:06:47.420 Like whatever I sleep,

00:06:48.900 I shower,

00:06:49.540 I forget.

00:06:50.240 I get the thing.

00:06:51.160 I have an explosive New York evening of theater.

00:06:53.840 I mean,

00:06:54.020 it just doesn't get better than that.

00:06:55.760 It doesn't get better.

00:06:57.800 And folks.

00:06:58.360 Yeah.

00:06:58.720 I'm going to have to reclaim my spot in New York city theater.

00:07:02.200 Okay.

00:07:02.680 I yearn.

00:07:03.780 I need,

00:07:04.340 I require anyway.

00:07:05.920 So because,

00:07:06.420 because I just I need that West Village I need that I need all of it okay the rainy nights

00:07:11.580 I miss New York off-Broadway New York best time of my life it's best time okay I'm telling you 1.00

00:07:21.300 okay I go where it was laugh out loud because because and I met a hag a couple of hags at um 1.00

00:07:28.380 the theater and that was you know an honor because it's it's just always amazing that 1.00

00:07:34.520 that new york new york knows we are new york okay even though we have forsaken them by heading

00:07:40.840 westward you know for for a little bit i know i mean i know you grew up in la but

00:07:44.660 i know i should say cheers new york yeah yeah okay eight jack on ten okay so nine

00:07:50.980 yeah there it is they knew it was something sorry monologue okay but

00:07:55.480 and there we go and john did john got confused that i was coming tomorrow

00:08:00.140 he didn't realize i was there which is very interesting because you know you kind of think

00:08:04.560 the performer that is your friend is sort of like willfully but also yes it's for your genius okay 0.91

00:08:10.400 yeah but it's sort of like they're not gonna they're not fucking winking at you from the stage

00:08:15.300 right but there's like an almost an awareness and did he see you i thought maybe he did but he

00:08:20.720 didn't lock eyes with me or anything i was in like the sixth row you know um and it wasn't until 0.88

00:08:27.380 after and oh and i'd send him texts like break a leg bitch you know and like and then sent him 0.99

00:08:32.780 like some like i forget if i did it during the two intermissions which fucking hell yeah man 0.98

00:08:37.860 three hour play two intermissions i'm listening it's like i didn't even want i was like the first 0.88

00:08:43.080 intermission came i was like we have to indulge these people you know they have to go to the

00:08:47.080 bathroom they have to get their snacks i was like raring for more oh i know i only wanted one

00:08:51.680 intermission yeah i'm like but it makes sense three hours and if people are coming and going

00:08:57.200 to the bathroom anyway so now i'm just thinking of new models of theater where there's like

00:09:02.220 a realm that you does blocked off the feet they can't see you okay like you're blocked from the

00:09:08.920 performers okay but is there a room where people who really need to come and go a lot

00:09:12.240 and wander and they can talk about themselves but they can hear the play all right so explosive

00:09:19.600 night of theater yeah the entire cast okay it was genius yeah these people fucking rock it was 0.54

00:09:25.960 hardcore so afterwards the surprise john looks at me what and he's in shock and then i'm like 0.56

00:09:32.280 we're getting a drink you know what i mean yeah or i i didn't want to push it because maybe it's

00:09:36.160 okay you know he's in the rhythm and i'm like and should we get a drink you know like and it was

00:09:41.140 just we were laughing oh my god i love it you know like me being like i mean have you because

00:09:45.520 we used to go nightly i know i know and so we go to via corona we go no okay we roll over via

00:09:51.980 corona like you know near closing or whatever and we're like we're like there's i'm like come on

00:09:57.780 like come on like maybe maybe come out of this spot you know and and we get in and the guy's 0.96

00:10:03.240 like we're closing like all we need is a drink you sit down at the fucking bar we have a drink 0.97

00:10:07.220 we're like can we have another they're like no you cannot we're closing we're like it's fine we'll go 0.98

00:10:11.260 to buvette we roll around the corner for a drink to a buvette this is heaven yeah heaven talking

00:10:16.960 about john's electric performance yes yes it's raining i mean it laughing in the streets

00:10:24.640 oh we're gonna need to we're gonna need to lock our new york thing down so we have it

00:10:31.360 oh we have it we have it it's locked no i mean a living space okay we need to figure it out

00:10:37.340 i know that's all i'm saying we need to have we need to stumble upon we need we need we need a

00:10:42.940 flat okay we need a you have one no but i'm talking no no no because this is not i'm staying

00:10:50.200 you know it's not always free okay yeah i'm talking how i'm going do we go in on it oh trust

00:10:57.500 me i've thought about this do we anyway so sorry i'm just like soaring so you did you get food or

00:11:04.240 know there was no food but luckily i i mean you know luckily i had eaten okay and so i actually

00:11:11.000 wasn't hungry but and today's the last day of the show right yes i was actually going to try to go

00:11:15.940 it today too but can't get in um is there only a matinee today yeah and then at night i'm gonna go

00:11:24.360 see wallace sean perform the fever it's great it's so great yeah so this is a huge weekend so

00:11:32.400 you can throw some wall sean plays books etc in the hack shop okay absolutely place class

00:11:40.560 the join up a little bit so trying to record proof i go over to my left i go to my bed i go

00:11:46.580 huh okay i reach my bag i'll sound in the pocket you know maybe i dropped in the general section

00:11:51.160 i had been mixing things up and putting it in there that's not there i'm gonna go i look at

00:11:55.420 my toe took it out in there i go i must have taken it out when i got here could i have no

00:12:00.800 recollection of wanting to or needing to start to go oh no now the complex thing here i start to go

00:12:08.640 i've been burned again and what do i mean okay i took a couple risks the last couple days in the 0.83

00:12:15.820 airport where i left my shit and just went where i wanted to go oh you mean like you you're like 0.59

00:12:22.840 i'm not carrying this to hudson news or whatever is that what you mean yeah so i i like found a 0.97

00:12:27.220 spot well well first it was like you know yeah i found a spot plugged in my shit yeah i'll post it 0.68

00:12:33.060 or you know in the newsletter okay you're so right it's like what if a phone plugged in next to a bag 0.90

00:12:39.180 what some you walk away someone's gonna go there and start tampering like no way or just take it

00:12:44.360 i mean yeah there's no i know they could but there's just something about the interior of

00:12:47.860 the airport that feels very like its own country we already got through secure like like stealing

00:12:54.300 within the the realm well i guess you could do you could now if you bought a ticket in order to

00:12:59.380 go to the airport and work this game you could okay yeah you know what i mean like you could do

00:13:04.560 a lot but the amount of cameras in that environment like if you would yeah it feels really so or the

00:13:12.060 i mean imagine like the next level safety of being in the delta lounge i know okay that's like

00:13:16.900 whatever so i i took a picture of it just to like horrify chris picture of what what i left so i

00:13:22.820 went on a so my new thing okay health on the road okay is i get to the airport you know you try to

00:13:29.600 get there with enough time you go i got 40 minutes i've started trying to get my steps in in the

00:13:34.000 airport all right you heard me okay because on tour you know it's bad right and it's like

00:13:39.780 when you're traveling and it's day of so you travel there you shower and go to the show

00:13:44.920 i'm like it ain't happening i walked to the venue one day i threw up on the way because

00:13:49.340 because I had a bad experience I got a text from Jacqueline just bent over on my hands and he's

00:13:53.740 barfing on the sidewalk in Denver I go she is a rock star it was wild um altitude sickness is

00:14:03.580 real oh yeah it took me so I'm in like a hyper focus of my own narrative here and I feel like

00:14:09.500 we might as well just ride it like just want everyone to know Kate's not upset okay I love

00:14:13.680 i'm in heaven go so i've been going like oh my god right it's like i could stand here waiting i 0.94

00:14:20.640 could obviously sit on my phone i could whatever i can even drink a goddamn starbucks and do my 0.99

00:14:26.980 stroll so i started going like yeah fuck it and going oh my god i have a 3 000 okay oh my god i 0.99

00:14:32.680 have 4 000 okay i just walked the perimeter walked the perimeter kept passing back to my gate i racked 0.99

00:14:38.420 up like 8k steps like and I was like how long did it take you an hour yeah not even like I probably

00:14:45.300 already had a few thousand or something but it was like I made a major dent yeah because you're

00:14:51.620 getting a few just getting your gate and then you go let's keep playing this game and so I just kept

00:14:56.160 walking around and whatever stuff leaving the stuff would give me I think too much anxiety

00:15:00.880 so I've been doing it without leaving the stuff okay but on this particular day nothing's charged

00:15:06.700 And so I go, and I want to repeat, the way that I'm touring right now, or was this past week or two, is at night after the show, I get in bed, I'm on the phone, Chris, boo, they let me focus, okay? And I pull up the app, and I book my hotel and my flight for the next day.

00:15:25.160 Unbelievable.

00:15:25.480 And in some cases, I don't book the hotel until the next day, while headed to the city.

00:15:30.260 The amount of anxiety gives me, it's just unthinkable. Yeah, okay.

00:15:33.260 and it works because actually when no one's there questioning and distracting me with my own

00:15:41.220 process I actually like pretty much like don't have any problem like I'm never late to get to

00:15:46.060 the airport like I get there in time there's like an intuitive my own rhythm that just that works

00:15:50.920 it's only when someone's like what time do I go yeah yeah like it like throws me you know what

00:15:55.060 I mean whatever so I'm getting my steps and I go nothing's charged and so I literally done my

00:15:59.600 i charge my macbook i charge my power bank and i charge my phone and they're all resting there

00:16:06.020 and whole life i've got my hard drive plugged in oh by the way i want to i want to i wanted my

00:16:11.100 t7 shield my samsung i'm pretty sure it's plugged into my laptop okay my t7 shield is the bedrock

00:16:19.360 of my existence okay every file every show every everything i put under no technically yes is it

00:16:25.000 all also on frame pretty much okay great you don't need it we have to always require i know it's just

00:16:32.420 i just hope they don't pull it out of the seat pocket and the t-shield which often kind of

00:16:39.340 pops out is small and stays in the seat pocket is a delta yes i really believe in the delta

00:16:45.200 awesome found so live update so so i go oh my god i go find my phone whatever okay find my

00:16:51.980 device as i go now this isn't a big moment of truth i'm really afraid what's a big moment right

00:16:56.100 now i'm gonna go look at the fine mine see if it's moved okay oh like if someone stole it so i go

00:17:02.740 where is it right and i see it's here it is in the delta terminal of pittsburgh you're seeing this

00:17:09.660 right now yeah i saw this before and i'm seeing like i haven't gotten an update unfortunately oh

00:17:14.760 wait 12 minutes ago i have gotten an update okay it's there okay it hasn't it hasn't moved now

00:17:19.920 what's scary about this and I take a photo okay is you'll see it's right on airport boulevard so 0.96

00:17:26.920 I see this this morning and I'm going is that someone waiting for a fucking uber and they're 0.98

00:17:32.320 about to take my shit away or is that one of those little offices no what that is is that's 0.99

00:17:37.680 safe in the lost and found that is safe in the lost and found and I listen I believe I do think 0.99

00:17:44.060 most people I didn't tell them though they're not wait I didn't tell them about the hard drive

00:17:47.180 find it i'll have to believe that but it could have slipped out it's so small if so i'll report

00:17:53.860 that loss too yes yes no one's taking a hard drive and going i'm gonna toss this no i'm worried that

00:18:00.740 you pull the laptop out fast i know but it will be found is what i'm saying do they check the

00:18:05.360 seat that pockets that deep yeah someone's gonna find it for sure yeah i'm just wondering as you

00:18:11.280 can imagine me going i filed the report but i forgot to mention the hard drive so i'm just

00:18:16.800 going to have to I'll deal with that after the recording I think yeah now when you dealt with

00:18:22.180 Delta I mean you got it back in a matter of hours because right your coat I got the next day back

00:18:28.580 when you went back to the airport went back to the airport the next day yeah so welcome Jacqueline

00:18:33.680 I mean I filed a report what now you're gonna get it back we're gonna follow along we're gonna

00:18:40.400 follow along but you're free you're okay you know because no that's that thing of you spend your

00:18:48.140 life don't lose your laptop right you spend your whole life don't lose the laptop and then you lose 0.83

00:18:54.140 it and you go all right and by the way best place to lose it best place to fucking lose it not oh 0.85

00:18:59.940 no I left it on the park bench I left it at the coffee shop yesterday where you know you're gonna

00:19:05.960 get it back I'm completely confident you're gonna get it back and I think you're gonna get the hard

00:19:09.480 drive too in the hard drive my mood has shifted once the hard drive became the conversation okay

00:19:17.080 i was like whatever i was like but my t7 shield like my t7 is like seven shield just so i have

00:19:22.780 something i know because it's like it's okay borderline and it's borderline credit card size

00:19:27.620 okay you're seeing the price yeah i'm seeing the price well i'm seeing what is it summer 575 and

00:19:32.640 they go up to 1100 i'm like oh right because it's yeah it's about how much terabytes and i don't

00:19:38.020 remember but i bet i went i went hardcore particularly because i think there's some

00:19:41.720 kind of there's a run on on um storage due to tariffs or something they're like get your okay

00:19:48.720 so it hasn't moved but everything's fine i was thinking i was thinking you know so because of

00:19:54.580 that i'm recording on my phone i'm recording with um my yellow beats and just thinking how

00:20:02.500 you know we're busy with ladies i'm just thinking and and intimacy okay i'm just thinking i think

00:20:09.980 we need to give people more cozy comfort i think we need i was thinking like and other people do

00:20:14.060 this but i would throw on you know with body doubling and remember you've never gotten so

00:20:19.460 much done as when you're on the phone with me or whatever for like 40 minutes chatting and you're

00:20:23.440 like hung a curtain and like fix a curtain thing that i've been looking at and i saw this thing

00:20:28.000 about messy spaces like how it's like creates neurological damage like i know like even when

00:20:33.680 you think it doesn't like it just so it's like it does so it's like you look at the broken curtains

00:20:37.800 there's like this little thing of the curtain that was broken that i was looking at every day 0.90

00:20:40.740 and then it was like i was on the phone with you and then i got a stepladder and i fucking fixed it 0.86

00:20:46.080 something goes on okay in the chemicals in the whatever when we are in that way with another 0.98

00:20:51.740 that I think must deep, deep chemical, whatever, make us feel capable, safe, whatever the fuck can 0.98

00:20:58.780 do it. I know. And the lending of focus, the group lending of focus, blah, blah. So I just go, 0.98

00:21:04.820 you know, we're artists, whatever. And Poog offers a very, you know, unusual space. Okay.

00:21:11.980 We, we must be free to use it. Like, I'm just like, I was like, I go a lot. I'm packing. I go

00:21:17.100 live yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry like you could go live not want to join you could go live absolutely

00:21:22.980 people would want to join in okay i was also thinking like like i woke in a panic about

00:21:27.580 something that was overdue and i'm like if i could just because i keep almost having to hire

00:21:32.060 people to essentially like babysit me doing the thing because yeah i'd hire them to do it but

00:21:36.840 then i start to do it myself and go oh i can do this myself yeah it's like their focus so you

00:21:41.080 know huge issue point is i'm going what if like you know premiums premiums have access where they 0.73

00:21:47.540 get a little alert and it's like hey i'm gonna spend an hour fucking unpacking my suitcase which 0.79

00:21:53.420 is something i hear apparently some people do i right now go you know what i would do right now 0.92

00:21:57.280 go live i'm fucking determined to go through my drawers like do closet like i'm determined to do 0.77

00:22:04.580 like the amount of t-shirts i have like i need to well closet clean out maybe this week because 0.98

00:22:10.300 right now I'm in the I can't walk in my closet I can't enter it my closet I open it I open things

00:22:16.060 fall and I it's really bad and I would even do yeah I just I do closet clean out where I would

00:22:22.900 spend a full hour and my hope is that I mean to me it would be the coziest thing and you re-listen

00:22:27.540 and you get to know the parts and you clean out your closet to it and then I'm going I'm going

00:22:31.440 I'm just laughing because like I'm imagining like this couple rocks and rocks and um I can't remember 0.74

00:22:38.640 his name right now they're like adhd and autistic couple and they make content about it but then

00:22:44.860 like they have an app where it's like all body doubling it's like you know okay you like wash

00:22:49.080 the dishes and like you play the video of them washing the dishes essentially it's just like

00:22:52.700 whatever instead of his app but i'm just like growing library of cozy comforts right

00:22:57.440 poog cozy comforts so i'm like i had a name for it i thought of this i was like

00:23:01.940 oh yeah yeah are you ready i was like in the company of poog yeah okay well so it's like i

00:23:09.300 told you what i want to do in the company of food i told you what i want to do tell me i want to 0.74

00:23:14.320 watch close encounters late night honestly i watch tv every night well honey i'm on la time

00:23:19.820 you're in new york so when you come home i'll be up wait i have breaking news i have breaking news

00:23:25.000 this is huge news for the community jacqueline and i have been given pre-nuvo scans i'm gonna

00:23:31.480 say it again. I'm going to say it again to the community. I'm so afraid. Jacqueline and I-

00:23:35.440 I'm excited. This is a miracle.

00:23:37.900 Gifted prenuvo scans. And I have to say something, which is that I-

00:23:42.300 Yeah, say it.

00:23:43.300 Have been having really, like, disturbing, won't be too strong a word, but strange

00:23:48.840 neck pain, eye pain. Went to the ophthalmologist. I was terrified. She looks at my eyes. You're

00:23:54.460 fine. Point is, prenuvo came just in time and I'm going to get my prenuvo weeks ahead of when my

00:24:00.040 doctor could get me in for a scan so it's amazing timing and we're gonna be did you lock your date

00:24:05.600 yeah i wonder if i could when did you when are you doing it first okay i gotta i gotta look um

00:24:14.240 they emailed you i believe yes so they emailed us to have our appointments at the same time if you

00:24:19.760 can do june 1st or it's like i'm one you're 130 or whatever do you think they've only got one

00:24:23.980 machine in there probably right no oh i don't know i just wonder like how much the machine 0.67

00:24:30.520 you know you believe we're getting full body scans bitch well you know what i'm immediately

00:24:35.480 asking about and wondering about is like you know how i i like would download anatomy apps and sort 0.96

00:24:41.060 of like soar for the human body right yeah i'm like always looking at the layers of anatomy

00:24:46.120 and i'm just going like what is that okay yeah yeah and i want to understand because i haven't

00:24:53.620 really looked in a while what kind of scan this is like what technology is this do you know i think

00:25:01.220 it's basically an mri let me look here it is a whole body mri what was funny also i'll say is

00:25:10.080 we're sitting around brainstorming about christmas and you know a christmas tour and you know who do

00:25:17.640 we sort of think about what is you know like do we build a wish list whatever point is you're

00:25:23.280 sitting there and kate starts going it's pre-nuvo it's pre-nuvo and i actually had to turn turn you

00:25:29.040 away and be like not for christmas even though mri for christmas was your thing i was like building

00:25:34.620 our like christmas like you know special or whatever around our holiday special around

00:25:40.440 horrifying detection of yeah yeah i know i had to back it out i was like we can still go for it

00:25:45.520 without giving them christmas it really is scary but what i'm dreaming of is that i get

00:25:50.060 that the prenova skin is like is almost like the mri and i'm given you know 400 terabytes of

00:25:57.840 of every sliver of my body of skin and i get to go you know i've always wondered about this area

00:26:03.920 you know what's going on back here and i go and grab a picture and send a doctor so this is just

00:26:08.700 what um these five slivers in this part of my neck look like like i'm like going to be annoyed

00:26:13.760 if i don't have access to the entire download yeah i'm very curious to know what form

00:26:19.140 new results coming um so yeah i can't believe you did it i can't believe

00:26:25.540 uh you know i'm stressed about it you know part of me is like part of me wants to do like you know

00:26:33.340 um like in these books you know these radical healing and books and stuff like that where it's

00:26:38.300 like you know something's on the scan they book the excision for you know four weeks later the

00:26:44.040 person goes and you know goes into serious meditation for four weeks and then they come

00:26:49.460 in and they go sorry it's not there anymore because these are like you know the tales are

00:26:52.980 radical yeah so I'm almost like I want to basically like brush my teeth really hard the more new

00:26:57.800 dentists yeah I'm like do I book it a month from now yeah yeah of course okay and like change my

00:27:03.360 epigenetic expression and then go in or do you want to go in you know with the dirtiest

00:27:10.620 and i know what you're saying you know like it's not something you can just whatever but

00:27:15.740 it sort of might give me a bias towards like like they taught us like predestination or whatever

00:27:23.040 calvinism or whatever they were like it was like they believed that it was predetermined whether

00:27:27.460 or not you were like a soul that was going to get into heaven yeah and so these like calvinists would

00:27:33.040 sort of like all like constantly perform good works and all this like essentially to convince

00:27:38.580 themselves that they were one of the pre-determined ones they're really good like they're like they're

00:27:43.400 doing good things like i'm one of the good souls yeah isn't that like to mentally sort of like try

00:27:48.660 to uh that really stuck with me imagine i'm like sitting there in high school and i'm like

00:27:53.640 like talking about like calvinists and like i'm like what and like it stays with me forever yeah

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00:35:53.400 I'm in a good mood.

00:35:54.300 I'm in a good rainy day in New York mood.

00:35:56.020 I love it.

00:35:56.480 No, it's a great day here in LA and I have a cold, everyone.

00:35:59.240 That's right.

00:35:59.520 I have a cold.

00:35:59.880 And you know what I want to say is because Jacqueline, you're very familiar with me, right?

00:36:02.780 Am I getting sick?

00:36:04.100 Am I getting sick?

00:36:04.840 Like, is that a tickle? What's that? You know what's unbelievable? When it just hits. So when

00:36:10.420 you go from complete health. So exactly what happened. I was on the flight back from New York

00:36:15.040 in a mask just cause. And I go, huh. I merely started feeling something in the throat and I go,

00:36:23.620 that's a little undeniable. By the way, on the flight, I watched all of the yogurt shop murders

00:36:29.000 and I have an announcement. I can't watch this shit anymore. Really disturbed me for days. And 1.00

00:36:34.260 like that one's great because i by the way watched the new episode so i had watched the first three

00:36:39.200 parts or whatever yeah that came out two years ago or something or whatever it was a new one

00:36:43.180 no no you're caught up yeah then they they just literally recently put out like part four like

00:36:48.900 since creating i haven't seen that i haven't seen no no you have because it's been out it's like

00:36:53.740 well because spoiler alert they know who did it now is that what you're saying yeah no i didn't

00:36:59.260 see that i didn't see that so this was what i watched it on the plane okay i'm gonna have to

00:37:04.380 log in and see because i do want to see that but the yoga i sat down to watch it to catch up with

00:37:08.880 with you but now now i'm ahead i guess okay i have to watch that because by the way yoga

00:37:13.180 we're so desensitized to the horrors of course yeah and it's not gratuitous it's like a you know 0.53

00:37:18.580 kind of classy whatever yeah and you think why would this it really fucking disturbed me in the 0.79

00:37:27.320 days that follow and you know what I can't do anymore I don't like sexual violence with murder 0.97

00:37:33.000 that really doesn't sit well with me and it fucking haunts me in the middle of the night and 0.90

00:37:38.900 I can't and I actually I can't tolerate because I my and then so here's what happened so again 0.90

00:37:44.400 spoiler they found out who did it you'll take a dateline you'll take a dateline murder a husband

00:37:48.860 that just yeah but just the horrors of a of a man who just like it's too unbearable and like

00:37:57.460 so here's what happened Jacqueline I googled it after I watched because I didn't know I watched

00:38:01.580 I guess the old episodes and I was like yogurt shop murder is solved and then I read yeah they

00:38:07.180 figured it out through a DNA it's a serial killer I click on his Wikipedia and then I start reading

00:38:14.500 about all the things he did to all these women. And I just exit the page. I go, I actually don't

00:38:21.480 want to fucking read about this. It's, it's too horrifying to imagine when people endure and I 0.97

00:38:29.420 can't do it. And then it was with me for days and, Oh, but wait, the point is, so I start feeling a

00:38:35.820 tickle in my throat watching that. Oh, I'll tell you something. So I, and I'm like, it's not

00:38:42.900 terrible, but I go, Oh, is this? Oh, great. Okay. So I'm, I watched the yogurt shop murders. Okay.

00:38:48.000 So extra sensitive to the horrors of men, but listen to what happened to me. So I go, I'm going

00:38:53.260 to call an Uber and I'm going to call a comfort because you know, black, it's like $150. And I 0.98

00:38:58.680 like to walk after a flight anyway, if I don't have, you know, such heavy stuff. So I go, I'm

00:39:03.720 going to walk to call. Yeah. And I go, I'll call a comfort because I'm looking at, I go pinch a

00:39:08.600 penny, call it comfort. So I always click on my driver and I like to see, and you should too,

00:39:15.260 how many years they've been driving and how many rides they have. And cause sometimes always,

00:39:20.060 and I heard someone once say, you really don't like, you want someone to have 5,000 rides under

00:39:24.560 their belt. And I swear to God, like not too long ago, I click on someone, he had 250 rides.

00:39:31.200 I canceled instantly. Like, I don't know. It's just, I like to see those ratios, high score,

00:39:36.960 15,000 rides whatever okay this guy has a high score he has a lot of rides he's like over 10,000

00:39:42.560 rides okay so and I also when I get in the car with a driver I always I'm like hi how are you

00:39:51.700 I like to get a sense like are you what are we dealing with here right so he gets out of the car

00:39:58.640 and my first instinct is he looks wired in a way that it's not late it's like it's maybe 7 30 8

00:40:06.620 o'clock he looks it was just like I looked at him and I was like huh tall guy white guy he just 0.81

00:40:12.640 looked a little fucking wired and I immediately was like huh and I was like hi how are you and

00:40:17.620 then he kind of grunted like I guess I'm okay something like that it was just a little weird 0.98

00:40:21.520 and then he goes do you need help with your bag I go yeah he opens his trunk I have a checked bag

00:40:27.240 he starts to lift it and he goes can you help me oh and I went sure and so he's already lifting it

00:40:34.260 up the the handle is on his side the handle's on his side you grab a raw wheel no so so i went

00:40:40.000 oh well the handle it was happening so fast i go oh well the handle's on your side he goes jesus

00:40:44.580 christ like that and throws my bag in the suitcase i without even i just immediately grabbed my bag

00:40:52.340 with full strength and i said i'm calling another good girl and i turned around i didn't even look

00:40:57.720 at him i turn around i completely turn my back and i just and he left and it was like it was that 0.98

00:41:02.940 thing the animal instinct i swear to god i was like i'm not fucking getting in a car with you 0.80

00:41:08.440 you have to trust it was interesting too because i then did he say anything when you were walking 0.88

00:41:14.480 away like hello and you just go i'm not doing it no no i was very calm i said i'm gonna call

00:41:18.380 another uber like that i didn't say like so that's really another world with me because i can get

00:41:24.700 lightness someone i'll be like as you know i was flashing back to me screaming at that guy being 0.99

00:41:29.560 like put a fucking muzzle on your fucking boyfriend about the guy who stole my uber and 0.98

00:41:33.420 then yelled at me or whatever oh yeah yeah yeah so it's like i actually and you know i stuck up 1.00

00:41:37.500 for you in the uber i can be very i'm happy to like puff my chest chest out whatever the fuck 0.57

00:41:43.040 but this was like really interesting it was like something took over i was just like i was 0.51

00:41:47.280 completely calm i wasn't angry i didn't look at him i just like i'm calling another uber

00:41:50.780 but i felt spooked because it was just like reminded you and it was just interesting it 0.99

00:41:56.460 as soon as i looked in his eyes like i just was like and who knows not that he's a fucking murderer 0.96

00:42:01.460 but it's like and yeah those drivers they're driving crazy hours they're exhausted they're 0.96

00:42:07.060 i mean who know it's just like i had a drive i had a driver on tour like that i thought he was

00:42:13.440 falling asleep on the road taking me from the airport i have that all the time yeah i was like

00:42:17.980 well like it was like bizarre and like i finally got there and it's just crazy because you know i 0.85

00:42:25.460 once had a cab driver fall asleep for a second yeah it was fucking did he deny it he it was the 0.66

00:42:31.680 thing we weren't on the highway we were in new york city on the street and it was like middle 0.88

00:42:36.580 of the day it was the thing where he came to right and it was like the craziest slam like

00:42:41.320 damn and this is like 15 years ago and i was too meek to even say anything or pretend i was scared

00:42:47.120 but well we keep going then i want to tell you about my next about the next driver did you say 0.98

00:42:51.900 something because sometimes i'll no because i was pretty close then that was was disturbing it was

00:42:56.620 like i was like you know do i let him let me out here in this like jar barely populated like kind

00:43:03.620 of series of parking lots let it to so i'm sort of just like now i'm looking around going we're

00:43:08.080 not we're not on the highway we're not on a curve on the highway like we're kind of in this no man's

00:43:14.000 land of parking lots and like little dividers and stuff leading up to where the hotel is so i'm like

00:43:20.660 if he does fall asleep right now i think we are rolling like we're rolling slowly into something

00:43:27.340 and i'm surviving basically so it felt more like i'm like hey okay like and i forget it'd be so

00:43:35.000 sometimes you just talk to them sometimes i just talk to them make sure they're like hey so where

00:43:38.420 you from you know i think i was like you're all right like all right yeah yeah it's amazing isn't

00:43:43.040 amazing how um it's not just like oh we're polite and whatever we're we are also um protecting our

00:43:51.420 safety by managing the ego oh of course always so that's what's so crazy about the whole like

00:43:58.580 don't accuse him it's insane because then he'll murder you yeah but yesterday it was it was

00:44:04.220 raining and i was i got a car from the airport to um hotel in columbus and he was going really fast

00:44:12.460 in the rain on like curvy kind of roads and i was like in my head trying to come up with what i was

00:44:19.700 gonna say like safety first or something or like don't be afraid to slow down i'm a nervous rider

00:44:24.960 okay i've told people to slow the fuck down and it's terrifying keep going and i keep like

00:44:29.500 jutting my head and i'm like i'm like it says 80 and then i'm looking ahead at the root and going 0.73

00:44:34.280 there's only one big curve ahead because the curves scare me and i see like an exit that has

00:44:39.580 one of those signs and it's you know i have a lot of dreams yeah skull and crossbones and a curve

00:44:44.620 and like a tipping truck and i've had a lot i have a lot of bad dreams where someone like we're

00:44:49.380 driving and someone takes one of those too fast and you just soar right over the edge of the curve

00:44:54.060 yeah straight and like i dream that all the time and i'm flying through there going well it finally

00:44:59.160 happened or whatever oh my god so i i want to feel and then he was breaking a little and i was

00:45:05.500 like god i love the feel of the break like i love the feel of the gentle like break break break the

00:45:11.280 soft breaking like feeling the road by the way and i have something to say about turbulence after

00:45:15.160 we'll get to it perhaps honestly i might have to save all the plane chat for the next step but

00:45:19.800 anyway go back tell me more i arrived safely you know so i i send that guy on his way and i'm like

00:45:26.800 kind of just a little like shaken up just like a little bit because i was like god just he just 0.53

00:45:31.740 like what the fuck was that okay anyway call another car comfort again he rattles up in a 0.79

00:45:39.720 tin can interesting you didn't you no no when you go with the cancel fee i shouldn't go by the way 1.00

00:45:44.280 yeah i go fuck this i'm doing suv escalade i want somebody who's like vetted beyond i go fuck this 0.98

00:45:50.880 and then i look at the price it's 150 bucks like i'm not doing it i was like i was like yeah i go 0.99

00:45:55.200 the other way i'm like i'm like torque off no no and i should yeah because so i go comfort again 0.99

00:46:01.400 I go, fuck it. I'm sorry. I just, okay. Tin can rattles up. Guy comes out. I do my usual. Hi, 0.99

00:46:08.320 how are you? Trying to get a sense. Immediately I go, he's good. He's smiling. He's friendly.

00:46:13.380 He grabs my bag. We're good. We're in there. I say again inside, you know, how you doing,

00:46:17.960 whatever. I feel that he is sweet. I feel that he is driving too fast. And we are, again,

00:46:24.940 we're in and it's like and i'm talking about driving i'm talking about 90 yeah like i'm

00:46:32.200 talking about like going too fast and then there's this part of me that's going oh god i'm getting

00:46:37.180 by the way i got home real quick i was like but i really was like what do i and i have had a

00:46:43.180 language i need language and you know what it was this guy's probably in his guys in his 50s

00:46:47.760 yeah i remember one time a young driver in an uber and i swear to god i felt like he was trying

00:46:54.120 to like be like big cocked and legendary and be like, check me out. And I said to him, I was like,

00:47:00.880 Hey, can you slow down? Like when I get there in one piece or something, or I think I even

00:47:04.980 pretended I was like, Hey, I like, I, I made up something which would be like, okay. For why I

00:47:09.600 was scared. But it's like, it's so fucking crazy. The Uber thing is on fucking believable the way 0.90

00:47:17.220 we just, cause then I go, you, you kind of have to dissociate and go, yeah, well there, it's just 0.99

00:47:22.540 a fucking guy. It's just a guy. And some of them like, and that's, again, I hate to say it. I've 1.00

00:47:30.440 been anti-Waymo. I was like, I fucking hate Waymos. I took a Waymo for the first time not 0.99

00:47:36.060 too long ago. Yeah. Because, oh my God, I think you told me this, but we never got into it. I

00:47:40.880 don't know. So here's why. I really hate taking an Uber if I'm dressed up in the evening. Like

00:47:47.140 if i'm like dressed up yeah yeah you feel like a piece of bait yeah and the guess what because 0.98

00:47:53.740 the fucking tone shifts the last couple times i've been dressed to the nines i get in an uber 0.99

00:47:58.080 yeah little and i'm being cheap i don't get the svu the s fuck the suv black car and it's a guy 0.99

00:48:05.660 and he's literally hello my lady like the last the last time i had a guy wait you cannot just 0.98

00:48:10.040 be dressed up in some guy's car kate i'm sorry sweetie it's over it's it's uber black i can't

00:48:15.620 I'm horrified to do this. 0.99

00:48:17.020 It's super black from now on 1.00

00:48:18.140 and you make the rest of your life work around it. 0.99

00:48:20.200 Okay, okay.

00:48:20.760 No more dinner out.

00:48:21.640 No, no, no.

00:48:22.140 It's unfortunate, but it's what it's come to.

00:48:24.260 No, I know because listen to this.

00:48:26.040 I've dressed up.

00:48:27.140 I was going to the Wuthering Heights premiere.

00:48:29.340 Literally black car.

00:48:30.200 Literally the best outfit I've ever worn.

00:48:31.920 Like it's unbelievable.

00:48:33.020 Like what was it?

00:48:34.320 It was a Vivian Westwood. 1.00

00:48:35.200 This fucking crazy corset, amazing dress. 1.00

00:48:37.780 Floral is black tie. 1.00

00:48:38.900 I look amazing.

00:48:39.600 Okay, if I may.

00:48:40.520 I get it.

00:48:41.140 And literally the guy,

00:48:42.000 he's probably like a guy my age.

00:48:44.340 he says he goes if i may you look ravishing ew first of all that's crazy okay and i was like

00:48:52.400 thanks and then i feel and then he's like where are you going if i may ask no no no yeah and i

00:48:59.000 was like oh i'm just going to like see a movie ha ha ha and i'm like no and he's like oh like

00:49:05.180 do you work in the industry and i go oh kinda i get on the phone of course hello call a friend

00:49:11.860 like i'm like and then i start feeling bad oh no i'm being rude he thinks i'm big time so then i

00:49:17.680 i end up having to talk to him for 30 minutes you just dive in deep about his dreams like i don't

00:49:25.420 even know did you get to his dreams it was just like anyway so and then another time i'll just 0.99

00:49:30.680 say no time i was dressed up and the guy was just like talk just trying to talk me chat me the fuck 0.91

00:49:36.060 up in a way that is not just the friendly normal person to person like it was too fucking much 0.98

00:49:43.440 and and sweetie it's over no no it's over it's over it's crazy i don't care how cheap you are 0.98

00:49:48.200 you literally you cannot you you can't be you can't have an invite to that premiere i don't 0.77

00:49:52.460 care how you grubbly got your way in there okay okay okay you you you've put yourself into a

00:49:57.980 position all right where you're going to that premiere sweetie you don't show up in a pale

00:50:03.420 blue uh whatever well no i don't i'm to be clear no no i'll be very clear i spring for the black

00:50:08.320 suv i'm not talking about i i spring for the escalate for look i'm talking about yeah sorry

00:50:13.820 i said show up which makes it sound like i mean like you don't show up to a big premiere okay i

00:50:18.420 mean like safety like it's over no no you can't do that you're right you're right you're right

00:50:23.800 you're right no no i completely completely think you're right so so then the next time i was dressed 0.96

00:50:29.840 up not to go to premiere what was it what was i going to i don't know but i what the fuck was i

00:50:33.860 going to but i was dressed up and i go guess what and i only had it was a 15 minute drive and i go 0.86

00:50:37.820 i'm getting a fucking waymo the waymo took forever to arrive i will say that but then amazing i get 0.87

00:50:43.720 in and i go this is amazing i don't have to i'll say it deal with a man deal with a man so hold on 0.96

00:50:51.720 now you know that suppose okay chris women drivers saw this oh no no okay that that they're

00:51:00.240 not or that some of them or that all of them i don't know he saw something that said it's someone 1.00

00:51:05.880 remotely in a center in wherever driving it like a video game shut the fuck up shut the fuck up 0.96

00:51:13.700 is that real obviously we have to look that up okay obviously we have to look that up but like 0.97

00:51:17.900 and he's like like the piece like so i'm talking i'm like from a coffee break goes to a coffee

00:51:23.520 break gets distracted whatever like comes running back like hey no babe i don't think that's what

00:51:27.680 it is i don't think that's what it is i think they monitor ai no no it's a full because the

00:51:32.120 idea that waymo they say it's 70 it's like 70 years of driving experience or whatever

00:51:36.320 no no 70 lifetimes 70 lifetimes i want to look up waymo um uh remote drivers remote operators

00:51:46.400 let's see what it says okay to oversee its fleet when a vehicle encounters an ambiguous situation

00:51:51.880 it prompts the remote team for guidance such as confirming a blocked lane or clearing yeah so

00:51:56.440 so that's that's what it is but it's a no but so listen so then i want to do the other the other

00:52:00.600 side of this coin so at the waymo and i had video but you weren't i just for nervous nelly whatever 0.97

00:52:07.340 i just wanted the listener i wasn't you're you're in a driverless car bitch not scared not on the 0.95

00:52:13.720 freeway so there was a thing that immediately happened which is like going around a little 0.98

00:52:18.960 mountainous hill and it gets confused and it pulls over to let someone by and it's like scared and I

00:52:25.160 was like what rather you took one like in the hills yeah that's crazy because like they get 0.58

00:52:29.100 they get fucked up up there yeah it got a little fucked up we saw a standoff I thought we were 0.88

00:52:33.500 together we were we saw a standoff oh yeah between two and a narrow road but I have to say 0.99

00:52:38.060 for a short distance for a you know they don't go on the freeway although I saw one on the freeway

00:52:43.320 I was like hello I've seen them flying wildly fast on like big boulevards where they're like

00:52:49.800 basically going 55 in the rain so here so they're like they're like I'm like I'm like who is that 0.98

00:52:56.900 bastard and then you look and it's one of them that's fucking crazy they're not the most timid 0.98

00:53:00.860 driver on the on the scene okay so here's so here's what happened so so here's the other side 0.99

00:53:05.000 of that so then I get out and I go this is pretty great okay so it's uber blocks forever escalade

00:53:11.260 or Waymo. So then the other day I take the cab, I take an Uber to the airport and it was a comfort

00:53:18.440 driver. We ended up having, but we ended up having, I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop.

00:53:24.580 I'm really going to stop. It's just a life shift. No, no, no, no, no. I know. If it helps you to

00:53:28.340 think about it as calling in abundance. Okay. Okay. Then think of it that way. Okay. No, no,

00:53:35.660 know you're totally right so but i my driver we end up having a 45 minute conversation it's

00:53:42.100 unbelievable he's iranian we're talking about all that he's probably he's in his 50s he's going

00:53:48.240 you know talking about the war talking about all of it he goes he goes you know my uh my cousin 1.00

00:53:53.600 was executed for being gay he says you know he told me he was gay i said don't say anything on

00:53:58.560 the phone i'm working on him getting his citizen you know getting him his papers to come to america 0.99

00:54:03.060 10 days later he's executed you you know we're talking about that i'm like holy shit we have 0.86

00:54:07.940 this long talk and what do you do and i just give it to him i go i'm actually a comedian we start 0.80

00:54:12.520 talking at the end he goes yeah end of the conversation it wasn't like it was like but

00:54:16.780 it was really sweet but then he was like you know you really made my day he's like talking a lot of

00:54:22.960 people don't want to talk i was like i was like you made my day this was lovely and then he goes

00:54:26.660 thank you for your service he goes if i when i have military personnel in my car i say thank you

00:54:30.980 for my service for your service you're a comedian i say to you with the same regard because you're

00:54:35.820 out there and you're helping people it's too sweet and what you do do that whole thing with

00:54:41.220 comedy it's no no no literally thank you he gives me a true thank you for your service

00:54:45.540 for recording poop when people do that they go they go yeah yeah they go like when people like

00:54:51.780 there's just like some people are like laughter no i know i know no and so but it was so sweet

00:54:58.260 and i go well that's the thing that's what we lose with the waymo and the you know because i i'm a

00:55:04.560 talker i want to talk but sometimes i don't want to talk let's be honest and i don't want to talk 0.86

00:55:09.720 when i when i when my body is coated in gorgeous luxurious perfumed oils my tits are up to my chin 1.00

00:55:17.260 i have a bold lip on and i have to convince you that don't worry i would maybe fuck you 0.99

00:55:24.860 literally i have to exactly you have to convince him i have to go life in another night i have to 0.99

00:55:29.660 go it's not off the table they have to feel that it's not i can't because of xyz they come and cut 1.00

00:55:35.320 they have to they have to know it's not off the table or else they chop your fucking head off 0.99

00:55:39.640 wild i don't know that people understand that sometimes who i don't because men you know okay 0.99

00:55:47.520 no i mean i mean like they don't understand because i think they might not they go but

00:55:54.340 it's like that's not true or something but it's like no we we've we are constantly dealing with

00:56:00.500 an animal that that we believe does not know itself and i don't think we're wrong too

00:56:04.180 i know and it's you know the general you know you know whatever like it's just

00:56:10.800 we've got a problem we've got a problem guys i mean that's that's

00:56:15.580 and you know i mean gavin de becker you know that book gift of fear i can't remember if you've

00:56:23.560 I've ever actually read it. I haven't. I haven't. It's a gripping read. I was like obsessed,

00:56:28.660 but it's all about listening to and learning to not let, um, you know, the fear of whatever

00:56:37.920 get in the way of doing what you, you know, following the instinct.

00:56:41.540 The gift of fear was the Uber guy. The way that I moved with instinct, it was really interesting.

00:56:46.080 Something else took over because I'm a highly anxious, obsessive, whatever person. So plenty

00:56:50.780 of times like oh is this gonna happen is that gonna happen it was like right the calm that ran

00:56:55.360 through me right and i had super strength i lifted my suka and i just said i'm getting the uber i

00:57:00.180 didn't want to escalate i didn't want to make him mad right i didn't want to do anything i just turn

00:57:04.060 oh by the way i'm gonna show you we're gonna keep this off air i'm gonna show you a picture of him

00:57:09.540 because i kept okay because i was gonna say like part of me almost i'm like on the others

00:57:14.520 almost yeah because then i felt bad because i was looking at his profile i'm seeing other 0.60

00:57:18.480 i'm seeing this picture is fucking scary by the way i'm seeing i'm seeing reviews you know sometimes 0.72

00:57:22.960 uber they have reviews and it's like nice guy i've like somehow i didn't know that so i've 0.87

00:57:27.460 totally missed all of that so i've seen that a couple times and so he was getting he has a high

00:57:32.040 score and i go you know what maybe he's just having a really fucking hard day i still think 0.83

00:57:38.260 it's weird and him going jesus fucking christ about the like the bag and everything you send 0.93

00:57:44.320 it no i'm gonna show you look look it's pixelated i can't see okay i'm texting i'm texting because i 0.98

00:57:50.840 go tell me this guy's not fucking scary like something about him the way when i said like 0.82

00:57:57.280 how are you like the whole like kind of laugh professional courteous professional courteous 0.95

00:58:01.200 drivers with extensive experience and like luxury vehicle right and the vehicle is whatever like

00:58:07.740 but it it all comes together to form a package that rocks the the uber the uber black right 0.96

00:58:13.940 like it's there's a professional type of there's a fucking professional driver no no that's the 0.99

00:58:19.720 thing that's like they fucking rock what they're fucking doing and i salute them i salute them no 0.97

00:58:26.200 that's that's what i want that's what i want from now okay look at your text because it's a it's a 0.98

00:58:30.760 service to make someone feel comfortable oh my god kate wait kate kate kate what the hell does

00:58:39.680 this guy looks like um what does he look like okay first of all first of all is he okay and

00:58:47.820 by the way is he in motion or is he parked on the side of a highway here wait that's a really

00:58:51.980 really good question because like i see a car behind him it's almost like he's driving and

00:58:55.780 took it looks like he's he's driving you're a genius and and then and then over on the other

00:59:02.260 side i see i'm like there's a yellow line yeah oh wait my headphones are like 10 minutes out

00:59:08.480 we're actually we actually have to finish by the way he's driving you're like fully right he's

00:59:12.160 fully driving but he looks um he looks in this photo like he's been up all night yeah right yeah

00:59:19.540 he lost a lot of money in the night yep and okay he's and you know what i'm gonna say

00:59:25.320 gambled it all away he's kind of hot so he gets by okay so he gets by don't you agree like he's

00:59:31.220 handsome but he looks like he was up all night and he's taking something to stay up exactly

00:59:36.500 okay exactly his eyes like glazed red he was on something and someone was like you know you can

00:59:42.080 just you could make it all back today oh my god just take a photo man just take a photo okay and

00:59:48.520 you know he's not looking into the eye of the camera he's he's looking at the user interface

00:59:52.560 yeah it's such a crazy photo it's such a crazy photo and then last thing i'm going to say

00:59:58.860 is that i took a yellow cab i like when i landed gfk take yellow caps sometimes right

01:00:03.940 oh i took one yesterday what's going on i often do because let me guess why are they all vans

01:00:09.680 no no no here's my question my idea of a yellow cab you get in 79th and lex off they go they know 0.96

01:00:17.340 that city like a fucking kate what's going on they don't kate kate it's like new york is dead 0.93

01:00:22.900 they don't know i go no but here's the other thing he asked me to put it into his phone 0.99

01:00:28.320 me too okay no i go i go i'm going to williamsburg i'm going uh to this and that he goes he goes is

01:00:34.520 that brooklyn i go yeah and he goes what what's the address i'm like are you i take his phone

01:00:42.320 i put in bop bop beep beep beep and then i go is this the driver because i also noticed his license

01:00:47.480 the thing was turned around where i go oh is this the driver this is the driver's nephew and he's 0.94

01:00:53.040 picking up shifts and i go okay whatever what the fuck am i gonna do yeah this country is 0.55

01:00:58.140 hell right yeah I'm not going to be like can I please verify that you are licensed like whatever 0.95

01:01:04.160 but I am like what's going on this has been happening right or I'm saying okay I'm going

01:01:09.240 to the lower east side I'm going to Houston and Ludlow no no you don't know how to get there

01:01:15.160 no no okay okay okay okay I mean people need to take a second okay what's going on there was a

01:01:20.740 time okay and it's like you know but think about what it meant honestly to be a new york city cab

01:01:29.340 driver okay when you get in a car and you say an address or you say because even way back when

01:01:36.800 right giving them 70 79th and and lex okay it's actually almost a courtesy because they can

01:01:43.020 navigate to that like you know if you give them 525 yeah sure blah blah they have to know that

01:01:49.440 that's going to be between this and this it's technically a little more but you could get in 0.97

01:01:54.040 like like a fool with a you know like you've come from out of town and you go my hotel or whatever 0.98

01:01:59.160 or or i mean well again you just you know my hotel the uh saint regis okay whatever yeah is 0.99

01:02:05.240 no you go you go i'm going to the saint regis okay i don't know if they go something off they

01:02:10.380 go or you'd be like i'm going to say it's at 322 i know where this is you know sweetheart i know 0.83

01:02:15.440 yeah and off they fucking go and they're wild driving i mean just just to take a moment and 0.89

01:02:21.020 sort of relish in history they're wild driving you trusted it because it was like they know how 0.99

01:02:26.000 to ride this this city they know the rhythms and the language of cars in the city so even though

01:02:31.360 you're you know afraid for your life so to speak in the cab you're not right you you have a kind

01:02:35.180 of faith so it's just like you could be so moved by it it's just anyway but yeah so yesterday same

01:02:40.480 thing i can't believe it i get in and what i do is if there's going to be a moment where i have to

01:02:44.900 find the exact address or something but i know i'm going to brooklyn heights okay when i'm getting

01:02:52.480 in to get out of the airport where i'm going to brooklyn heights i'll get the address right now

01:02:56.460 you know what i mean and it's like it's a no-go it's crazy it's a confusion it's a no-go and then

01:03:04.260 suddenly a phone is being passed back right it's just like you know knowledge rules and someone

01:03:11.960 having knowledge in their brain 0.96

01:03:13.540 is fucking cool 0.98

01:03:15.600 and it's worth remembering 0.98

01:03:17.920 how fucking cool it is 1.00

01:03:21.580 to know some shit 1.00

01:03:22.500 and to know it intimately. 1.00

01:03:24.880 I don't know.

01:03:25.720 I'll have to take a few more rides

01:03:26.880 to know.

01:03:27.920 Yeah.

01:03:29.140 But how many do we have left?

01:03:30.980 You know?

01:03:31.100 I know.

01:03:31.780 I know.

01:03:33.340 Okay.

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01:03:34.880 I love you.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - June 02, 2026

It’s Just a Guy in His Car

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