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00:03:11.220 So we're on the plane.

00:03:13.020 It's like, okay, this plane's a little small.

00:03:14.340 I'm like, but it's fine because I go to, it doesn't matter.

00:03:16.060 It's a jet engine.

00:03:16.820 It doesn't matter if it's a smaller jet engine or it's a jet engine, right?

00:03:20.220 It doesn't have this belief in me.

00:03:21.840 Okay, you're safe.

00:03:22.840 And then I look over and I go, what's that?

00:03:25.020 Okay?

00:03:25.580 Right outside my window is something just spinning like a fan.

00:03:29.640 From 1894.

00:03:31.400 It's true.

00:03:32.260 And like, oh, really?

00:03:33.740 A circle is going to get us?

00:03:35.480 Oh, really?

00:03:35.880 The centrifugal is going to?

00:03:38.200 Oh, no.

00:03:39.280 Send us skyward?

00:03:40.680 It's hard to believe.

00:03:41.240 I go over and I go, oh, no.

00:03:44.260 And I hear it like in my head, Chris, as long as it's not one of those prop planes.

00:03:47.440 As long as the prop planes are safe.

00:03:49.060 Oh, no.

00:03:49.380 Oh, God. 1.00

00:03:50.100 We're taking on the fucking prop plane. 0.99

00:03:52.360 And then I see a slight space. 0.99

00:03:56.540 So there's the base, and then there's the prop, okay?

00:04:00.380 Right?

00:04:01.140 And over here, I notice there's a little more of a gap on the bottom

00:04:04.840 where it connects to the rest of the plane than there is on the top.

00:04:07.540 You lost me, doll, but keep going.

00:04:09.140 Okay.

00:04:09.800 Emotionally, I'm here.

00:04:10.900 Okay.

00:04:11.360 I just can't see it.

00:04:12.500 Yeah.

00:04:12.720 I see what I think might be like, it's a little unscrewed on the bottom.

00:04:16.840 Oh, yeah, totally.

00:04:17.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:18.460 Okay, and I'm going, should that, I'm going, should that, is that?

00:04:21.160 Oh, no.

00:04:21.740 It seems like it shouldn't have more space on the bottom than the top.

00:04:24.100 That seems like I didn't fully screw in my thing.

00:04:26.640 You know what I mean?

00:04:27.640 So I see that, and then it gets a little bad.

00:04:30.920 And then at one point, a little later in the flight,

00:04:33.440 and this was, okay, I look, and my stomach drops

00:04:38.440 because I see what looks like smoke.

00:04:40.360 It was clouds.

00:04:42.480 And I see that suddenly the propeller, okay,

00:04:49.100 has been charred.

00:04:50.460 it's been charred

00:04:52.700 carbon black

00:04:54.000 okay so I see smoke and I see a carbon

00:04:57.040 black prop plane and I go

00:04:58.840 we've lost jet one

00:05:00.840 okay and it's not even a jet

00:05:03.140 you thought it was at the charring

00:05:04.900 state it had burned to the point of char

00:05:07.100 yes okay

00:05:08.560 and then I start going wait 0.83

00:05:10.700 maybe it was always black

00:05:12.040 yeah and then I start

00:05:14.980 trying to look past Kate's hair

00:05:16.940 okay to catch out the

00:05:19.000 other side 0.96

00:05:19.820 i was listening to is that one black yeah okay pretending it was me singing actually that's what

00:05:27.340 i was scared could you tell i was singing inside the mask no i was listening to lana and then i

00:05:32.940 fiona apple it was like i was listening to this roundup i was in the top two percent of lana del

00:05:37.420 ray listeners this year by the way in my spotify roundup um and wait sorry i don't know why i'm

00:05:42.820 over here this is weird but i was in the mask going full dexterity really fully singing

00:05:49.680 I saw nothing

00:05:50.600 I saw nothing

00:05:52.740 I was like losing myself in it

00:05:54.320 Eyes neutral

00:05:55.540 Are you with your headphones utterly unreachable?

00:06:00.360 I know

00:06:00.800 It was kind of shocking

00:06:01.840 Wait, I'm glad we're dressed

00:06:05.460 There was something about like Keeper Lant being gone

00:06:08.600 Okay, inside of Ramp

00:06:09.720 It was unusual

00:06:11.020 Like it was a level of aloofness

00:06:13.760 Does it strike you as adolescent?

00:06:15.460 Like I'm in there and I'm like

00:06:16.460 No, no

00:06:16.920 Not when I listen to my music

00:06:18.240 Yeah

00:06:19.100 No, no, no, no, none of that.

00:06:20.980 I mean, there were a couple moments where, you know,

00:06:23.320 I'd say something, you have to gesture that, 0.99

00:06:25.200 okay, hold on, I'll pause my shit. 0.99

00:06:26.620 Hang on, hang on. 1.00

00:06:27.820 Bop, bop, bows.

00:06:29.180 Yeah.

00:06:29.760 I did consider, I really thought there was, 0.90

00:06:32.700 I was like, I fucked up, it's on me, 0.96

00:06:35.540 I booked a prop plane without us knowing. 0.99

00:06:37.660 Right.

00:06:38.420 It's not screwed on completely.

00:06:40.060 But remember, I made you laugh thinking about us falling,

00:06:42.280 screaming to our death.

00:06:43.360 Yes.

00:06:43.400 That's hysterical.

00:06:44.360 And I said that I was preparing,

00:06:46.680 I was trying to decide whether a voice memo or a video would be better for my family to find.

00:06:50.960 Oh, remember?

00:06:52.120 And you go, what, and the charred remains? 0.99

00:06:54.380 And I go, like, sometimes all the shit's still there. 0.99

00:06:58.000 It's just the people that are dead. 1.00

00:06:59.320 Yeah, totally.

00:07:00.120 You know what I mean?

00:07:00.900 Imagine the footage.

00:07:02.640 You would, I feel like, in a moment of the free fall, pick up the phone and just just screaming.

00:07:08.900 No, I actually, I was going there, and I go, okay, what am I going to say when we go down?

00:07:13.980 and I'm going to get the video going

00:07:15.460 and I go, guys, okay, literally,

00:07:17.760 this is what I thought.

00:07:19.360 If I have like three seconds,

00:07:20.620 I grab it, grab it.

00:07:21.540 Guys, I had a great life.

00:07:22.920 I experienced all the things

00:07:23.860 that there are to experience

00:07:24.800 just in the range of human emotion.

00:07:26.760 It was enough and I love you all.

00:07:29.460 Imagine you're plummeting to your death

00:07:31.500 and you have the cognizance.

00:07:33.080 Sorry.

00:07:33.840 I think it was more just like 0.99

00:07:35.400 you're like shitting and screaming. 0.99

00:07:38.000 Really? 0.99

00:07:38.620 Yeah, probably. 0.98

00:07:39.440 Do you think you lose the anus? 0.98

00:07:42.100 At last. 0.98

00:07:43.980 Because, wait, there's a term for this.

00:07:45.660 What is it called?

00:07:46.520 Prolapse?

00:07:47.600 Oh, prolapse.

00:07:48.740 Sorry, I thought you said it last.

00:07:52.380 Last thing, it is releasing.

00:07:53.800 I think you're screaming and pissing and, yeah.

00:07:58.360 Right, you lose the vowels.

00:08:00.340 You lose the ability to go,

00:08:01.800 I'm so grateful for my little life and I, yeah.

00:08:05.240 I think so, probably.

00:08:08.540 I just cannot.

00:08:09.680 Imagine a cogent message.

00:08:10.980 go into file four

00:08:12.780 and collect the,

00:08:13.820 you know,

00:08:14.080 like,

00:08:14.340 I mean.

00:08:15.220 Do you have, 1.00

00:08:15.760 do you have any of your shit, 1.00

00:08:17.380 do you have a will, 1.00

00:08:18.180 do you have a goddamn email, 0.99

00:08:19.200 anything? 1.00

00:08:19.640 A will?

00:08:20.260 Honey,

00:08:20.660 I don't even have a way.

00:08:25.200 Okay.

00:08:26.480 You watch a lot

00:08:27.600 of the murder stuff

00:08:28.540 that I,

00:08:29.200 because I watched,

00:08:30.100 I watched,

00:08:30.900 I watched Dahmer

00:08:32.320 and I was like,

00:08:33.800 well,

00:08:33.960 I'm different now.

00:08:35.240 And that was not

00:08:36.060 even a doc series.

00:08:36.900 Oh,

00:08:36.960 I could talk.

00:08:37.700 I grew up,

00:08:38.360 my best friend growing up,

00:08:39.620 her father was,

00:08:40.980 the like number one like world-renowned expert on serial killers okay like hot and so i would

00:08:48.500 you know i would go through his harold schecter okay and i would go through his study i would go

00:08:52.900 through his study and he had all these little creepy things what study you were creeping into

00:08:56.880 a back bedroom during the sleepover we were loud in there oh sorry yeah we were loud in there and

00:09:03.580 he had a little mini guillotine well that's shocking if you're the number one serial killer

00:09:07.100 father

00:09:08.340 expert

00:09:09.700 that he had

00:09:10.480 if you're like

00:09:11.220 my line of work is

00:09:12.260 I'm a serial killer expert

00:09:13.400 and then you go 1.00

00:09:13.800 girls get into the files

00:09:15.260 have fun

00:09:15.780 it's cookie night

00:09:16.660 yeah

00:09:17.100 it was exactly that

00:09:19.560 okay

00:09:19.840 it was

00:09:20.920 and it was

00:09:21.220 it was heavenly

00:09:21.880 because I do believe

00:09:22.940 children are meant to hear

00:09:24.380 kind of

00:09:25.160 on a archetypal level

00:09:26.440 they need to hear

00:09:27.240 sort of

00:09:27.680 sort of heavy

00:09:29.100 like

00:09:31.280 they need to hear

00:09:32.600 kind of deep archetypal

00:09:34.140 she also told me

00:09:35.960 like

00:09:36.180 like these like archetypal

00:09:37.480 like fair

00:09:37.820 like Bluebeard

00:09:38.540 like you know Bluebeard

00:09:40.260 okay

00:09:40.540 like the key

00:09:41.820 and the bleeding

00:09:42.400 from the keyhole

00:09:43.500 and the whole thing

00:09:44.120 and like 1.00

00:09:44.580 there's dead women in there 0.59

00:09:45.800 like so like six 0.99

00:09:46.480 she's like telling me about

00:09:47.700 she just like knew

00:09:48.600 about things like Bluebeard

00:09:49.660 you know what I mean

00:09:50.220 where I was like what

00:09:50.820 she's like well

00:09:51.380 there's many tellings 0.51

00:09:52.180 but she was six

00:09:53.140 well

00:09:53.720 you know

00:09:55.160 but like so like

00:09:55.960 I got to hear

00:09:57.040 some of these like

00:09:57.520 classic tales

00:09:58.260 like told like

00:09:59.220 like one little girl

00:10:00.380 to another

00:10:00.820 like no you won't

00:10:01.500 even believe this

00:10:02.200 like

00:10:02.400 like

00:10:03.300 and then there's like

00:10:04.040 all these dead women 0.98

00:10:04.920 in there

00:10:05.160 and I was like

00:10:05.540 oh

00:10:05.800 you know yeah but then she would also read to me from case studies this is unbelievable and

00:10:13.040 you've never mentioned it okay okay and and she would read me you know you know the most

00:10:19.680 unimaginably heinous stuff and i loved it i mean because yeah because i won't even pretend like

00:10:28.940 you know to not i'm not alone we all consume no a lot of us consume this content you know i mean

00:10:35.560 but you know it was pretty like one of the best are there any people who like kind of like know

00:10:41.000 this shit all right so like albert fish who okay yeah like that was real like i'll tell you one

00:10:49.060 thing about albert fish for fun it's weird because i know the name albert fish is he in is he in 0.96

00:10:55.720 prison or dead no you know what i think is weirder i know some guy hardly and that's his instagram 0.63

00:11:02.000 handle and that's fucked out or something not okay interesting well i'm bringing him up anyway 0.89

00:11:08.980 keep going you know world i i think but i think he was the one that had every like i i could be 0.97

00:11:14.700 getting this wrong and i don't care like it's fun regardless but it was like he had she told me this

00:11:19.220 again like at seven like she's like albert fish had every known perversion every known perversion

00:11:23.620 to man he had and then there were ones that he invented yeah so like he one of those things was

00:11:29.840 he would like put like long okay i'm adding the word long stem but like he would like insert 0.98

00:11:35.500 roses long stem roses like into his penis okay he did a lot he did a lot of sounds like the 0.99

00:11:45.040 whitney biennial last year am i wrong yeah yeah but it's compelling i mean like i think we're 0.98

00:11:54.280 supposed to not find it compelling like that's sort of like the modern thing is like you know 0.79

00:11:58.740 we're all like trash 0.94

00:11:59.900 because we're hungry 1.00

00:12:01.320 for serial killer narratives

00:12:02.500 but

00:12:02.820 I don't know

00:12:04.620 I think anytime

00:12:05.340 the brain is intrigued

00:12:06.460 it's intrigued

00:12:07.060 for reasons

00:12:08.140 that someone else

00:12:09.100 could explain

00:12:09.580 yeah

00:12:09.900 there's no such thing

00:12:11.320 as a guilty pleasure

00:12:12.040 it's just pleasure

00:12:12.660 exactly

00:12:13.760 it's pleasure

00:12:14.900 and I believe it's true

00:12:16.380 you don't get scared

00:12:17.160 you don't get scared

00:12:18.400 do you little girl

00:12:19.180 watching

00:12:20.160 like you don't get scared

00:12:21.220 horror movies

00:12:21.480 yeah

00:12:21.820 no we're like

00:12:22.300 you do get scared

00:12:23.880 oh okay

00:12:24.440 depends

00:12:24.920 I mean I don't get like

00:12:26.540 scared doing like a

00:12:27.740 because i get scared with ghost stuff where i'm like oh no they're here you know or and i've been

00:12:34.180 like i don't i've said to the room like i'm not available yeah that's important i don't want like

00:12:39.980 i'm not engaging yeah and i'm not i'm not so that's that's good energetic practice

00:12:47.880 hello no well like you're right too no did you ever play with a ouija board as a child i was

00:12:54.120 just discussing this with someone.

00:12:55.280 A Ouija board as a,

00:12:56.100 maybe like fifth grade,

00:12:57.280 but like knew it was fake.

00:12:58.120 Well, my heart wasn't in it,

00:12:59.080 you know?

00:12:59.200 Yeah.

00:13:00.140 So you weren't inviting in.

00:13:01.640 I wonder, yeah.

00:13:02.320 I've never invited in

00:13:03.220 and I won't.

00:13:04.680 I played it fast and loose

00:13:06.560 and I regret it.

00:13:08.180 Those who know me know

00:13:09.060 I regret it.

00:13:09.660 It's risky.

00:13:10.480 People have been thrown

00:13:11.540 around their homes.

00:13:13.740 Thrown.

00:13:14.320 I once read about a family,

00:13:15.600 okay? 0.99

00:13:15.820 Ragdoll?

00:13:16.220 A father talking about

00:13:17.140 when his family was thrown

00:13:18.460 around the living room.

00:13:20.060 Okay.

00:13:21.020 All hitting the walls,

00:13:22.420 the whole thing.

00:13:24.120 And then it's who you go to.

00:13:26.240 No one believes you. 0.99

00:13:27.760 No one fucking believes you. 1.00

00:13:29.320 Showing the bruises. 1.00

00:13:30.280 I mean, that's what fucking, 0.98

00:13:32.460 what was the movie that ruled? 0.99

00:13:33.820 Oh, Paranormal Activity.

00:13:34.860 That first one. 0.99

00:13:35.600 God damn, that was good. 0.99

00:13:37.020 That was, they made it for $4.92. 0.99

00:13:40.500 And then it grossed $14 million and 92 cents.

00:13:43.960 Which does that, do you love that?

00:13:45.120 Because I just go.

00:13:45.600 There was some scary.

00:13:47.320 Oh, found footage horror. 0.99

00:13:49.060 And then they fucked it at the end, right? 0.99

00:13:50.960 What? 0.99

00:13:51.200 Because I did the thing at the end where.

00:13:53.020 Oh, it's like.

00:13:54.120 It's a very, like, it's a thing from the early Oscars.

00:13:56.480 No, it's a Blair Witch.

00:13:57.960 It's a thing of, like, speeding up the frames where the girl's like. 0.91

00:14:00.600 Yeah.

00:14:02.400 Yeah.

00:14:02.860 Like, whatever. 1.00

00:14:03.360 It's like they fucked it. 0.99

00:14:04.240 It was like, no, it was this, like, amazing, like, lo-fi kind of thing. 0.99

00:14:07.060 We didn't need.

00:14:07.940 I mean, I like seeing.

00:14:08.760 Doesn't she go into the camera and go.

00:14:11.080 Yeah.

00:14:11.440 At the end?

00:14:11.940 It's like.

00:14:14.120 No, hold it.

00:14:15.560 Hold the tension.

00:14:17.140 You know, hold it.

00:14:18.300 I mean, although.

00:14:20.780 Well, it was.

00:14:21.600 I mean, sorry, but it was effective in Blair Witch

00:14:23.400 because they didn't go,

00:14:24.420 ah, right?

00:14:25.560 They just... 0.99

00:14:26.920 That was fucking good. 0.99

00:14:28.080 Right? 0.99

00:14:28.660 That's...

00:14:29.220 That...

00:14:29.620 That...

00:14:30.320 Oh, no.

00:14:31.720 That was so good.

00:14:32.660 Terrifying.

00:14:33.460 I need to revisit Blair...

00:14:34.680 Has someone watched Blair Witch recently?

00:14:37.200 I saw it in New York City. 1.00

00:14:39.200 See, that's fucking cultural persistence. 1.00

00:14:40.200 That's unbelievable. 1.00

00:14:41.100 No, no.

00:14:41.360 Oh, it's...

00:14:42.420 Yeah, there's a lot...

00:14:43.000 Found Foototaur is some of the scariest.

00:14:44.660 Yeah.

00:14:45.180 My favorite...

00:14:45.800 Like, I love a security cam.

00:14:47.300 Like, I love in found footage,

00:14:49.880 like, the terror that you're out of control.

00:14:52.480 Oh, that's what paranormal activity did.

00:14:54.860 They're going to, like, the camera's going to turn

00:14:56.780 and, like, you're forced to turn with it,

00:14:58.780 but you don't want to turn.

00:14:59.820 Your body is out of control.

00:15:01.900 Yeah.

00:15:02.200 Found footage and, like, even when it's cheesy,

00:15:04.000 like, paranormal activity, like, you know,

00:15:05.740 it's like that weird...

00:15:06.980 Oh, my God.

00:15:07.400 I'm like...

00:15:08.020 I think about the guy, they call the exorcist guy

00:15:10.600 and he comes in and he's like,

00:15:12.000 oh, oh, I have to leave.

00:15:14.080 They're angry or whatever. 1.00

00:15:15.180 That guy, he's like an 82-year-old gay guy. 0.92

00:15:17.420 I thought he was gay. 0.66

00:15:18.120 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:18.440 And, like, he comes in and he's, like, channeling

00:15:20.680 and he's like

00:15:21.160 I'm doing more

00:15:22.680 he's like

00:15:23.260 I'm actually doing more damage

00:15:24.360 by being here

00:15:24.880 and I was like

00:15:25.520 no exactly

00:15:27.140 like that's a movie

00:15:29.180 when they refuse

00:15:30.380 okay I love

00:15:31.340 when they refuse

00:15:32.000 to do the work

00:15:32.780 like

00:15:33.300 I'm always happy

00:15:34.980 with a practitioner

00:15:35.780 who's unwilling

00:15:36.680 to do the work

00:15:37.200 like I'm like

00:15:37.760 I just had

00:15:38.340 I just had this fantasy

00:15:39.460 how much fun would it be

00:15:40.600 to watch a movie together

00:15:42.260 to watch a scary movie

00:15:43.360 like a child

00:15:44.140 I thought

00:15:44.880 I tried to lock down

00:15:45.820 us in bed

00:15:46.880 totally

00:15:47.480 because then maybe

00:15:48.420 it would be really fun with you

00:15:49.460 but then I'd have to go

00:15:50.120 to my room at the end of the night and get really scared because we've had you know early days uh

00:15:55.900 we would uh tour together and we would share one bed and i do have memories literally and by the

00:16:00.660 way that wasn't even like an elective choice to be cheap that's what the festival suggested which

00:16:05.700 is not like you girls can bunk literally you girls can bunk it's weird how do you know that we can

00:16:11.800 bunk like yeah oh i bunked it's bunking with you great but like i bunked i think about my bunking 0.86

00:16:18.420 days like that's fucking insane they're like so like there and they like wouldn't even allow you 0.78

00:16:23.120 to put in a request we were like divas god sorry comedy there's anything we need more of in 0.89

00:16:29.560 podcasting is behind the scenes comedy commentary on the road it's crazy they tried to make us

00:16:36.040 wait i have something weird i had a weird thing happen about a therapist what was it was something

00:16:43.440 really disturbing

00:16:44.620 and maybe question

00:16:45.480 all of therapy.

00:16:46.740 Did you tell me?

00:16:47.640 No, I,

00:16:49.340 what did I hear?

00:16:49.900 Did I hear someone

00:16:50.320 like talking about,

00:16:51.200 I don't know,

00:16:51.700 I'm not sure.

00:16:52.220 I told you my therapist

00:16:52.940 when I left her.

00:16:54.380 Dramatic language. 0.54

00:16:55.400 Oh, yeah.

00:16:56.220 Well, she pushed you out, right?

00:16:58.460 No.

00:16:58.940 Didn't she say you were done?

00:17:00.020 She told me to come less,

00:17:01.460 which I was like, 1.00

00:17:02.020 good for her.

00:17:02.700 By the way,

00:17:02.920 I was going once a week.

00:17:03.820 I want to be clear,

00:17:04.400 once a week. 0.99

00:17:05.320 But she was like,

00:17:06.140 you are over-processing,

00:17:08.000 you have OCD.

00:17:10.780 She was like,

00:17:11.580 you're actually,

00:17:12.120 I think it would be good 0.97

00:17:12.700 for you to take time away it was really really good fucking advice and then i was like i actually 0.99

00:17:16.600 want a youngian and you know i'm gonna get into a youngian um analysis i'm gonna get out of here 0.97

00:17:20.700 went into the full closing ceremony it was great a ceremony and uh paid her and said bye respect

00:17:27.820 you know thank you for the last six years whatever and then she was like she told me in the session

00:17:32.260 i don't know if i told if i talked about that on the pod probably not but she was like i never told

00:17:37.080 do this but i'm a fan to tell you this i think you did and it's absolutely disgusting i by by the 0.78

00:17:43.820 way i was like i would fucking hope so like that's like that's how i was like i'm so deranged i was 0.87

00:17:49.060 like good i was like i knew i liked you you know like i like was like i need a fan yeah my new 0.97

00:17:56.820 therapist doesn't give a shit i love it thank god yeah that's really disgusting i'm sorry i'm like 0.68

00:18:03.220 Peacock streaming means nothing? 0.99

00:18:05.320 Yeah.

00:18:08.080 The characters?

00:18:09.280 2016?

00:18:10.840 Yeah.

00:18:11.480 She's just 0.91

00:18:12.600 doesn't...

00:18:13.780 She's blank.

00:18:14.420 It's really good.

00:18:14.780 Oh, yeah.

00:18:15.540 As you know,

00:18:16.080 it's the number one requirement.

00:18:17.080 But the old one,

00:18:17.500 but I think,

00:18:18.240 I mean,

00:18:18.880 it's more...

00:18:19.480 Are you horrified more

00:18:20.600 that she told me?

00:18:21.780 Because why should she have...

00:18:22.580 She shouldn't have said,

00:18:23.560 by the way,

00:18:24.120 love the work.

00:18:25.520 I'm horrified across the board.

00:18:28.180 Like,

00:18:28.780 if she was a fan,

00:18:29.700 she should have let you know up top

00:18:30.820 and asked if you're comfortable with it.

00:18:32.160 But I called her out by name in my stand-up special.

00:18:35.400 I go, Christina, that's her name.

00:18:37.180 Oh, that's fine.

00:18:38.060 First name only.

00:18:38.800 But then I go, well, you never mentioned to me

00:18:40.320 that I called you out by name in my stand-up special.

00:18:42.200 And that was supposed to be a special moment between us

00:18:44.180 where you, maybe you're streaming my special

00:18:45.760 and you go, oh, she's reaching out.

00:18:46.920 She never mentioned it.

00:18:48.340 Neither of us ever mentioned it.

00:18:49.520 Okay.

00:18:51.000 Or I'm like, are you a fan?

00:18:52.120 Because it seems like you didn't watch 0.99

00:18:52.940 my goddamn stand-up special. 0.99

00:18:54.360 Streaming on Hulu. 0.99

00:19:02.160 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts women

00:19:11.020 right in the center of their own stories i'm back with more one-off interviews with some

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00:19:44.600 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:19:46.500 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:19:49.220 I'm not too intimidated by her.

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00:21:04.700 This is Ryder Strong,

00:21:05.820 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:21:08.360 It was many and many a year ago

00:21:11.360 in a kingdom by the sea.

00:21:13.740 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor,

00:21:16.280 disappeared from a commune.

00:21:17.560 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:21:18.760 It was nature and trees and praying.

00:21:21.460 and drugs. No, I am not your guru. And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police,

00:21:30.220 I lied to everybody. There were years right where I could not say your name. I've decided to go back

00:21:35.060 to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:21:39.680 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened. Isn't it a little bit weird that they

00:21:44.560 obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for

00:21:48.980 30 years. I'll teach you

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00:22:03.140 The more you listen to your kids

00:22:06.820 the closer you'll be

00:22:08.280 So we asked kids, what do you want

00:22:11.060 your parents to hear?

00:22:12.740 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to

00:22:14.800 I would just want you to listen to me more often

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00:22:39.600 So as you know,

00:22:40.960 on the podcast,

00:22:42.340 we talked about flying a lot,

00:22:46.000 the world of airlines,

00:22:47.020 the world of pilots.

00:22:47.720 and recently on an ep

00:22:49.160 we were

00:22:49.760 we were wondering

00:22:50.420 about gay pilots

00:22:51.280 and we were like

00:22:51.660 I wonder if it's like

00:22:52.280 gen pop or how many

00:22:53.460 you know

00:22:53.960 and we were like

00:22:54.720 speculating like

00:22:55.740 because we've been 1.00

00:22:56.280 amazed with Poog 1.00

00:22:57.100 we have like 1.00

00:22:57.920 truck drivers

00:22:58.860 and like

00:22:59.520 skater guy 1.00

00:23:00.900 like fucking 0.99

00:23:01.860 like DoorDash 1.00

00:23:02.640 do you give me

00:23:03.080 an impression

00:23:03.440 of that guy

00:23:04.120 I love this

00:23:05.520 this like

00:23:06.120 cute like 0.78

00:23:07.020 22 year old

00:23:07.840 like skater guy

00:23:09.020 was like

00:23:09.700 I love Poog

00:23:11.000 this like

00:23:11.340 straight like

00:23:12.180 22 year old

00:23:12.820 you hear what I'm saying

00:23:13.580 like

00:23:14.220 with the skateboard

00:23:15.660 was like

00:23:16.080 I love Poog

00:23:16.740 it gets me through

00:23:17.400 my door dash um uh is that the best weeping not really but essentially weeping i was like thank

00:23:24.580 you like this is what i'm talking about trucker long haul trucker that's when you weep that's

00:23:30.440 when you like i mean unbelievable like i can listen to you girls talk about anything

00:23:34.860 i mean can you imagine can you imagine on long nights you can imagine our you can imagine our

00:23:42.680 joy when we received an email

00:23:44.560 that said hi hags 0.95

00:23:46.120 I'm a gay airline pilot 0.98

00:23:48.440 airplane pilot

00:23:50.120 and I

00:23:51.320 and so he said he's in Philly

00:23:54.760 and we're gonna bring him on right now

00:23:56.500 okay

00:23:57.300 oh my god

00:24:00.700 incredible you have the stool

00:24:02.160 dead center I think right here gorgeous

00:24:03.840 oh my god yay

00:24:05.540 he was giving a mic

00:24:08.000 he was giving a mic

00:24:08.940 this is huge what's your name

00:24:11.940 Sean

00:24:12.520 Sean

00:24:13.360 Will you sit right here

00:24:15.580 Thank you

00:24:16.540 By the way

00:24:17.280 Do you come with someone

00:24:18.280 Or are you single

00:24:18.780 Because this is about to become

00:24:19.620 A dating show

00:24:20.460 My boyfriend is right there

00:24:21.580 Boyfriend's right

00:24:21.860 Congrats

00:24:22.400 Okay because

00:24:23.300 Okay

00:24:23.680 Love it

00:24:24.320 That's good

00:24:24.600 And congrats

00:24:25.520 Okay

00:24:25.940 Truly

00:24:27.620 Truly mazel

00:24:28.740 Thank you

00:24:29.440 This is

00:24:29.960 You're literally

00:24:30.620 Just take a minute with this

00:24:31.480 You're the first guest

00:24:33.000 On POOG ever

00:24:33.980 Yeah

00:24:34.360 Ever

00:24:35.380 On POOG live

00:24:37.660 On POOG original

00:24:38.820 I'm possibly never again

00:24:40.620 Unless this is so explosive

00:24:41.900 if we realize that we've been depriving people.

00:24:44.000 Commercial?

00:24:44.940 I fly private jets. 1.00

00:24:46.660 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:24:48.560 Okay, this is a huge question. 1.00

00:24:50.560 Are they as safe as the big boys?

00:24:52.880 Or safer?

00:24:54.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:55.340 Because it's a smaller craft,

00:24:57.360 and so if you go down,

00:24:58.440 there's no people at the front to...

00:25:00.440 I don't think that's why.

00:25:01.780 So, sorry, I don't know where to put this.

00:25:03.960 No, I know, I know, I know.

00:25:04.880 They'll adjust.

00:25:05.920 Show business is crazy.

00:25:06.940 Yeah, I got you.

00:25:08.940 Well, yeah, we are the flight attendants,

00:25:11.900 so pretty much

00:25:12.840 they show up

00:25:13.640 and there's like

00:25:14.540 our planes hold like

00:25:15.440 12 people

00:25:16.160 and we were like

00:25:17.520 hey yeah like

00:25:18.240 if anything goes wrong

00:25:20.520 this is what you do

00:25:21.340 and you need seatbelts

00:25:22.380 and so

00:25:23.140 and we like

00:25:23.560 load the luggage

00:25:24.160 and

00:25:24.860 by the way

00:25:25.240 I'm looking at you

00:25:25.800 I'm like

00:25:26.140 you are a pilot

00:25:26.860 you're gorgeous

00:25:27.340 this is

00:25:28.060 no

00:25:28.300 because by the way

00:25:29.140 I'm not kidding

00:25:30.220 I've never seen

00:25:30.880 like a busted pilot

00:25:31.780 like for real

00:25:32.720 and like

00:25:33.540 there's just a look

00:25:35.280 do you think it's knowing

00:25:36.080 that you're supposed

00:25:36.600 to be close to God

00:25:37.460 like you're born

00:25:38.840 like sort of beautiful

00:25:39.640 wait I have a huge question

00:25:40.760 I'm supposed to be up in the skies

00:25:41.260 Do you have a favorite airline?

00:25:43.720 Delta.

00:25:45.120 Oh.

00:25:46.500 Well, as two gold medallions in the house.

00:25:50.700 Status.

00:25:51.320 I grew up in Portland, so I used to fly Delta a lot.

00:25:54.120 And just all the pilots I've met have been really nice.

00:25:56.620 Did you have like a first pilot experience?

00:26:00.120 When did I know?

00:26:00.960 When did you know you went, so to speak?

00:26:04.200 Yeah.

00:26:05.140 I grew up in between England and Oregon.

00:26:07.420 And so we used to fly a lot.

00:26:09.520 Publishing deal.

00:26:10.560 Publishing deal.

00:26:11.260 for me it was just a lot of

00:26:13.780 always being happy on planes

00:26:15.580 because you don't get to talk to people

00:26:17.020 you just get to be in the moment and be in the zone

00:26:19.460 and enjoy life

00:26:20.800 and you get to people cry, happy cry, sad cry

00:26:23.720 they're going to see loved ones

00:26:25.000 huge revelation coming through

00:26:27.060 I know what it is

00:26:28.520 the pilots are poets

00:26:31.060 two things

00:26:32.640 first of all

00:26:33.900 I'm going to start crying

00:26:36.460 because one of the only

00:26:38.700 sacred spaces we have left where you're not actively

00:26:40.680 we're doing

00:26:41.760 you know what I'm saying here right

00:26:42.720 it's like

00:26:42.980 we talk about this a lot

00:26:44.360 and poo

00:26:44.600 I need to slow down

00:26:45.340 I'm getting too excited

00:26:46.200 it's a modern cathedral

00:26:48.160 literally it's the only place

00:26:49.280 we can go

00:26:49.760 you contemplate

00:26:50.540 you listen to music

00:26:51.240 you look at you

00:26:51.680 oh my god

00:26:52.420 this is the only place

00:26:53.620 we can do this now

00:26:54.260 you silently sort of sit

00:26:55.800 I mean 0.98

00:26:56.660 there is a pew quality

00:26:58.560 there is a pew

00:26:59.260 coming in

00:26:59.980 and it's very humbling

00:27:01.740 and you're in there

00:27:02.760 and you're a part of

00:27:04.600 you know

00:27:04.840 you're in communion

00:27:05.880 with strangers

00:27:06.580 priest comes on

00:27:07.860 they should have

00:27:08.420 priest come on in

00:27:09.440 no I meant the pilot

00:27:10.840 the pilot comes on

00:27:12.240 as a priest

00:27:12.960 I'm just saying

00:27:13.500 there should be a priest

00:27:14.160 in the middle

00:27:14.520 with a catholic

00:27:15.260 with an incense

00:27:15.920 that would be amazing

00:27:16.720 us and

00:27:17.500 so wait

00:27:17.980 I have some questions though

00:27:19.360 I have a lot of questions

00:27:20.540 Jacqueline

00:27:20.660 because you got so much

00:27:21.740 on the flight

00:27:22.540 to Philadelphia yesterday

00:27:23.660 you got a lot of work done

00:27:25.160 and you were like

00:27:25.840 I should just start

00:27:26.740 booking cross country flights

00:27:27.980 constantly

00:27:28.620 I think it would be worth it

00:27:29.820 I think it would actually

00:27:30.720 pay off in terms of

00:27:31.780 getting things done

00:27:33.040 become a pilot

00:27:33.640 just do the work up front

00:27:34.600 huge question

00:27:36.080 what's going on up there

00:27:37.240 yeah what's going on

00:27:37.940 in the cockpit

00:27:38.480 what are you boys doing up there

00:27:40.980 so most of the time you are just actually

00:27:43.000 doing work but then on the

00:27:44.580 down time you can

00:27:45.800 no no you just like talk to people and like plug

00:27:48.700 things into the like and talk to people

00:27:50.700 wait you don't mean the

00:27:51.780 this is a huge question

00:27:54.060 private you're like well it's like we always

00:27:56.840 talk about when the

00:27:57.600 like a commercial whatever when like

00:28:00.720 you know this is true

00:28:02.320 we always debate it but sometimes

00:28:04.520 the pilot will come on and talk about the meals

00:28:06.300 oh yeah I've never heard that

00:28:08.460 I still don't think it's real.

00:28:10.280 It's real.

00:28:10.940 The pilots go chicken palm?

00:28:12.900 Yes.

00:28:13.420 They're like, we got a penne and a roast chicken.

00:28:16.220 I've never heard the pilot do that.

00:28:17.980 It's literally real.

00:28:20.440 So here's the biggest question, I guess.

00:28:24.300 The big one I've been asking recently is when it's rough on the way down, let's say.

00:28:28.740 Is the pilot afraid?

00:28:30.220 No.

00:28:30.820 Okay.

00:28:31.380 By the way, let's take a second with that.

00:28:33.900 No.

00:28:35.480 Probably the one time we're actually happy to do things.

00:28:38.200 because half the time when you're like just

00:28:40.060 in cruise, you're just bored.

00:28:42.760 You're just sitting there like

00:28:44.060 wondering. You're like talking to the person next to you.

00:28:46.400 You're stuck in a room with another person

00:28:48.320 for like eight hours.

00:28:50.180 So what are you going to do the entire time? You're just like

00:28:51.940 casually having a conversation for eight hours with a stranger? 0.98

00:28:54.540 Are you allowed to listen to Poog in there? 1.00

00:28:57.160 Are you allowed to listen

00:28:58.360 to podcasts in there?

00:28:59.780 No, that is the one you can't do.

00:29:01.320 Music? I've like crocheted.

00:29:03.780 No.

00:29:04.700 No.

00:29:05.860 Are there?

00:29:07.540 That's how you know 0.99

00:29:08.180 I've got a gay pilot, folks. 0.99

00:29:09.580 Yeah.

00:29:11.960 Okay.

00:29:12.740 So.

00:29:13.280 Are you, like, listening to music?

00:29:14.440 No.

00:29:15.240 Because you're, like,

00:29:16.200 you're talking.

00:29:17.040 Oh, audio spatial, right?

00:29:17.660 No, and you're, like,

00:29:18.280 talking to, like,

00:29:19.040 the air traffic control

00:29:20.060 and you're looking for stuff.

00:29:21.040 That's, like, the one thing you can't.

00:29:21.960 Do you have to sign an NDA?

00:29:23.720 Yeah, I do. 1.00

00:29:24.500 Fuck. 1.00

00:29:25.000 Okay. 1.00

00:29:26.140 Wait, what do you mean?

00:29:26.800 What do you mean?

00:29:27.060 I figured.

00:29:27.920 Because of some of the people,

00:29:29.300 he's flying private.

00:29:31.320 Oh, sure.

00:29:32.420 anyone make your stomach turn because of the wealth yes they also really like they've been

00:29:39.280 rude they also really really love like natty lights and like michelab ultra like that's like

00:29:44.480 when you know you're rich at that point you're like i don't want like dom and you're like you

00:29:48.320 own this four million dollar plane i'm about to fly and you want natural lights money wasted 0.97

00:29:52.640 like accommodate them by going to get the cheap shit yeah yeah i like go to the gas station before 0.92

00:29:58.280 like we have like a manifold like a list and they're like i want natural light i can get you 0.97

00:30:02.580 anything in the entire world and you're asking for corona light which honestly corona is pretty

00:30:06.980 good so you think that's their attempt to be like well i'm a regular gun no but i do i do but they're

00:30:13.420 not they're not showing off to anyone it's me like i'm the only person that you're seeing on

00:30:18.020 this plane unless you take a video of it now there's two at all times right yeah yeah and

00:30:22.700 in case one goes down are they strangers pardon are they are you a stranger with your pilot every

00:30:31.840 time sometimes always no never yeah it's like back and forth we have like like i flew with

00:30:38.680 like a random rotating group yeah rotating anyone that you hate but you do it anyway

00:30:43.260 like yeah now it's scary up there and there's some ever decisions like that you're arguing over

00:30:49.560 like we should take this we should take it off auto like i can like no no there have been moments

00:30:55.540 you're like are we sure we're gonna do that and then it's more just maybe like no like like more

00:30:59.720 just like um this is huge like but in terms of safety it's safe what about my fear of flips

00:31:09.640 can you talk about turbulence yeah yeah yeah so um the jello theory turbulence the jello theory

00:31:16.880 that we always love to hear about.

00:31:18.520 Yeah.

00:31:18.720 Yeah, it's a very good way

00:31:19.720 to think about it.

00:31:20.320 It's jelly.

00:31:20.940 It's real.

00:31:21.720 I forgot what the theory was.

00:31:23.480 Jelly theory, as I learned,

00:31:24.780 is that the plane's like this

00:31:25.760 and you think,

00:31:26.200 oh my God, I'm in wildness.

00:31:27.840 No, there's jelly on both sides.

00:31:29.340 And that's the air?

00:31:30.180 Yeah, it's the air.

00:31:30.940 Because like air is not a vacuum.

00:31:32.840 Like the air is something.

00:31:34.220 It's literally jelly.

00:31:35.260 You're moving within it.

00:31:36.380 You feel it.

00:31:37.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:37.700 It's still holding you up.

00:31:39.380 What about prop planes?

00:31:40.340 Because I was terrified.

00:31:41.800 Prop planes are fine.

00:31:42.740 They're just slower.

00:31:44.100 And they're just louder.

00:31:45.200 Good.

00:31:45.400 slower, slower your destination, faster

00:31:47.540 to... Have you ever been on

00:31:49.460 a plane and been in a situation

00:31:51.560 where things are a little hairy and you maybe

00:31:53.340 say to someone like, I'm a pilot, it's okay

00:31:55.440 or something. Are you a passenger?

00:31:57.500 No, God, no. We have to travel in

00:31:59.340 uniform sometimes. We go a lot to Costa Rica

00:32:01.180 and half the times they like, you sit next to the people

00:32:03.420 and they won't stop talking to you, which is fine. 0.96

00:32:05.500 Sorry, not to be like a dick about it. 0.87

00:32:07.580 I would be, I would be 1.00

00:32:09.520 able to stop fucking in the head house. 1.00

00:32:11.300 Yeah, exactly. I was like, I have specific places that I 0.99

00:32:13.520 want to talk about it to.

00:32:14.540 and the people I would like to answer questions to.

00:32:17.020 Oh, my God.

00:32:17.840 So the jelly, right?

00:32:19.260 Now, did you hear the thing I was saying about?

00:32:23.480 In the jelly above, jelly below that I mentioned?

00:32:26.300 Yes, exactly.

00:32:27.420 Did you happen to?

00:32:28.400 What about this idea with the climate getting worse,

00:32:31.100 turbulence getting worse?

00:32:31.620 It is getting worse because the jet stream is getting stronger.

00:32:34.380 But the big thing is, like, I just flew back from Colorado

00:32:36.680 and I had the worst turbulence I've ever had.

00:32:38.620 Okay, tell us everything.

00:32:39.680 So pretty much we were in really, really bad turbulence.

00:32:41.720 and the minute it happened we started like everything started going up and down and it was

00:32:45.920 like stomach drops yeah my stomach dropped which doesn't happen often and so pretty much what

00:32:51.300 happened is dropping i never occurred to me that that could happen yeah but we it stopped like

00:32:56.640 after a second and we reported it and then every other plane around us the air traffic was like

00:33:01.100 hey by the way there's bad turbulence get away so that's the thing is like one person if it happens

00:33:05.560 to one person everyone else will be fine yeah yeah that's okay interesting but one one has to

00:33:11.100 suffer unfortunately yeah no i'm sorry i'm not ready to move on from turbulence okay go go

00:33:16.940 so what about i once had a weird drop okay now my friend once had like something like an 11

00:33:25.000 second drop which sounds too long like no that feels like no comedian greg johnson comedian

00:33:30.680 greg johnson really he said it was like free fall for a while they hit some air pocket or something

00:33:35.300 yeah i mean i guess jelly jelly jelly but can you flip in the jelly it's very unlikely like

00:33:43.440 almost impossible like the likelihood is like yeah the most that will turn is like 30 degrees

00:33:49.060 which is like not as much as it feels like a lot but it's not as much as it seems and what about

00:33:53.640 when they're going down right and then you feel i got a little freaked i was like we're supposed

00:33:56.760 to be landing why are we tilted back up yeah when you slow down and they put the flaps out you go

00:34:02.960 it to a higher angle so when you're coming into land yeah yeah yeah you literally have to slow

00:34:10.500 it down and then you like flaps out and you get up from my angle you're well because i'm thinking

00:34:15.400 with commercial airlines right yeah i'm obsessed with the toilet situation

00:34:19.300 where's it all go toilet centric yeah where's it all go well no not even that's good too but i

00:34:25.780 It aerosolizes

00:34:30.280 and it's recirculated

00:34:31.380 in the cabin.

00:34:32.320 Yeah.

00:34:32.860 No, but I just mean

00:34:33.680 you're just using

00:34:35.340 the bathroom

00:34:35.720 that everyone

00:34:36.480 is one bathroom.

00:34:37.780 No.

00:34:38.160 I forgot about that.

00:34:39.500 So when the plane I fly,

00:34:40.600 we don't have a door.

00:34:41.620 So all the passengers

00:34:42.480 can like talk to us

00:34:43.820 and like look at us

00:34:44.900 while we fly.

00:34:45.340 And be like

00:34:46.740 drunken nightmares

00:34:48.220 that come up and

00:34:48.680 scream rock and roll, right?

00:34:51.100 And if like alarms go off,

00:34:52.380 which is like

00:34:52.720 just the normal thing

00:34:53.440 to be like set stuff,

00:34:54.900 people hear it.

00:34:55.620 Yeah, and they're like, what's happening?

00:34:57.640 You're like, it's fine, go back. 1.00

00:34:59.980 Look at your pearly whites, do you whiten? 1.00

00:35:02.640 Pilots have to. 1.00

00:35:03.840 Wow.

00:35:04.820 They have to keep up.

00:35:08.540 Appearances.

00:35:09.760 There are certain expectations.

00:35:12.020 What was the first time you flew?

00:35:14.980 I mean, I assume you were second.

00:35:17.600 I mean, the first time I flew a jet

00:35:19.760 was to Costa Rica last year

00:35:21.780 and the first time I ever flew

00:35:23.140 I was in Oregon and I flew just little

00:35:25.400 Just a little plane

00:35:26.440 Oh my god

00:35:27.160 First time jet last year

00:35:28.800 Now I'm picturing you

00:35:29.600 Running out of a

00:35:30.320 Yeah

00:35:30.540 Running out of like

00:35:32.460 I'm picturing you

00:35:33.040 Running into a field

00:35:33.900 Okay

00:35:34.300 Yeah

00:35:34.740 Where like

00:35:35.580 Your grandfather's plane is

00:35:36.800 I'm picturing you

00:35:37.520 As a little boy

00:35:38.040 With a model plane

00:35:39.080 Yeah

00:35:39.960 Exactly

00:35:40.980 Exactly

00:35:41.660 Cut two

00:35:42.500 Put that away

00:35:42.980 And get inside

00:35:43.740 Yeah

00:35:44.640 Cut two

00:35:45.960 Wide eyes

00:35:46.760 Like fixing

00:35:47.820 Oiling up

00:35:48.520 Grandfather's old

00:35:49.560 Yeah 1.00

00:35:49.860 You and that damn plane 1.00

00:35:51.500 Yeah 1.00

00:35:51.980 And then like

00:35:52.940 When will you learn

00:35:53.620 The sky's for angels

00:35:54.940 I don't know if I have enough

00:35:57.000 I don't have enough room to take on

00:35:59.080 Come on girl 1.00

00:36:00.560 Wait do you call the plane she? 1.00

00:36:04.220 Yeah 0.99

00:36:04.560 Cause that's traditional

00:36:05.560 Right? You're like

00:36:08.320 I love her

00:36:09.160 A lot of photos like hugging the nose

00:36:13.380 Do you have any little rituals

00:36:16.980 Or OCD adjacent

00:36:18.160 I have to touch every plane I fly

00:36:20.240 Even if I'm a passenger

00:36:21.300 I'll just like touch

00:36:22.600 I touch my planes

00:36:24.620 I touch the outside of my plane too

00:36:26.160 For me it's about being like

00:36:27.780 But you always touch it?

00:36:30.140 Not always

00:36:30.800 I'm touching it

00:36:33.900 I get like in front of someone else

00:36:35.560 I have to touch this

00:36:36.880 Okay so the answer is yes

00:36:40.240 Yes

00:36:40.680 Now how to survive a crash

00:36:44.220 Listen to the flight attendant

00:36:47.460 Here's my big question

00:36:49.780 What do you think

00:36:51.100 If you're flying commercial

00:36:53.880 as a passenger right yeah what would you what would concern you oh don't when should i get

00:37:02.300 concerned like when they suspend beverage service because there's gonna be turbulence on like no i

00:37:07.000 i'm like thank you i don't want the drinks like do you know many people have hot coffee and like

00:37:10.620 thrown on you and you're like oh no you know like it's not their fault but you're like gonna be mad

00:37:15.060 at them for no reason you can't go hot on a plane the water is peepee literally i drink coffee all

00:37:21.760 the time on the plane. I love it. I know.

00:37:23.800 Or hot tea. I did my flower head. I brought

00:37:25.580 more hot water. Wow.

00:37:27.560 First sneeze on stage. Been on stage since I was 17.

00:37:29.860 First sneeze. And first guest.

00:37:32.440 That's how comfortable you are. Huge.

00:37:34.400 Okay, wait. So

00:37:35.240 can the flight attendants

00:37:37.800 be trusted to communicate danger?

00:37:41.120 Like,

00:37:41.540 or are they like, we don't

00:37:43.840 want to cause panic on the plane or we'll all get strangled.

00:37:46.060 So they wait till the last

00:37:47.880 second. So there's this whole thing. There's this Brazilian

00:37:49.800 airline called Azul and the flight attendants

00:37:51.740 will put on lipstick during turbulence

00:37:53.620 so that all the other passengers will be calm.

00:37:56.160 That's really great.

00:37:56.820 So like you're sitting there

00:37:57.620 and like literally going through turbulence.

00:37:59.920 Imagine practicing that.

00:38:01.080 Like when do you decide

00:38:01.820 like I'm going to go on something

00:38:02.920 and just put on lipstick.

00:38:03.920 No, that's genius.

00:38:05.060 Or chapstick.

00:38:05.820 And you know I would fall for that in a second.

00:38:07.740 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:08.060 You're like, okay, everything's amazing.

00:38:09.240 Like you're going to crash

00:38:10.080 and they're just sitting there

00:38:10.860 like putting on lipstick.

00:38:12.320 We look at all of them.

00:38:13.880 Yeah, you're like...

00:38:14.860 What can I think?

00:38:18.140 How much does it cost?

00:38:19.760 how did kate and i start flying private okay and and do never never i mean i guess no i mean like

00:38:26.680 like in theoretically right like what's the cost i'll take a free ride um but our smallest is like

00:38:32.140 3 000 an hour and then our largest is 7 000 an hour wait an hour so if you if you take your time

00:38:40.220 up there i mean you can you ever run out the clock no you like quote it and i think they're 0.91

00:38:45.960 like it's about this and then they just pay that wow i mean yeah talk about scum yeah um i know i'm

00:38:53.160 like ethically i don't do a good job no no no no no no no because i'm like i shouldn't you're

00:38:58.180 saving lives yeah what's the scariest flight experience you've been in sorry for my theme

00:39:05.920 no it's okay um i where you've been like i think this might be it okay i've never had that before

00:39:11.400 Do you leave a message on the black box?

00:39:15.000 Do the privates have a black box?

00:39:16.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:17.380 That's FAA regulation?

00:39:19.440 Yeah, it's required.

00:39:21.000 I think the worst thing that happened is we had like a pressurization problem

00:39:23.420 and there was like someone talking to us during it.

00:39:25.700 I think it was like my second week when we were at like 40,000 feet

00:39:28.940 and all of a sudden like an alarm bell went off.

00:39:30.920 And this girl was like standing there talking to us.

00:39:33.260 And I was like, oh my God, what do we do?

00:39:35.300 And then my boss was like, it's fine.

00:39:37.900 Don't worry about it.

00:39:39.020 And later he looked at me like, oh my God.

00:39:41.100 yeah see this is exactly what i was worried about this kind of like don't upset the customers no

00:39:48.120 everything was fine it truly was fine i will say that yesterday on our flight it was a little over 0.95

00:39:52.820 five hours and at one point by the way american airlines so you're fucked we get there we get 0.95

00:39:59.160 we're in row 35 okay we're way in the back we sit we sit there way in the back sit down so imagine 0.97

00:40:05.880 this five hour 45 minute and i go i go i'm gonna watch some movies i'm gonna have fun i'm with 0.99

00:40:10.920 Jacqueline we get there no screens on the back of the and then this pilot has the fucking gall 0.87

00:40:17.800 to come on and go this is one of our newer planes that we uh oh yeah do you hear what I'm saying no 0.79

00:40:23.940 one of the new 830 air buses or whatever but then we ended up having a great time and at one point

00:40:28.800 I saw there was an hour and a half flight there was an hour half left and I said to Jacqueline

00:40:32.300 Jacqueline it's only an hour I thought Kate's got it wrong she goes you've got it wrong there's no

00:40:36.000 way it's been 45 minutes I go I've been working there's a we start laughing we're so happy the

00:40:40.160 flight attendant goes by we go excuse me excuse me sir wait is it true there's only and this this

00:40:46.080 was literally this was like key me i think yeah no excuse me excuse me is it or maybe you you

00:40:53.780 initiated i don't know what it is to think you're like yeah you were like you're like we're sitting

00:40:58.220 a little bit or whatever okay and when he i couldn't i couldn't control it he goes like

00:41:04.360 yeah there's only an hour she goes it's a true it's only an hour she seems to think it's only

00:41:08.300 an hour and a half left that's not possible he goes yeah like an hour and a half really yeah so

00:41:13.780 excited so excited it's a miracle she starts cackling i can't believe it flew

00:41:19.200 and he he had been hardened he kind of i had kind of a hardened interaction with her

00:41:25.580 he thought maybe i was like it was sarcasm he he lifted the joy light filled his eyes i was like

00:41:30.780 this is a blast and he was like it's crawling for us and then we were like yeah he goes to tell

00:41:36.140 How can you add more time?

00:41:37.500 Because we're having fun.

00:41:38.900 Yeah.

00:41:39.920 All right.

00:41:40.400 We've got to say bye to Sean.

00:41:41.460 Sean, thank you so much.

00:41:41.880 It was lovely to meet you both.

00:41:42.800 Thank you.

00:41:44.600 Wow.

00:41:45.000 First ever.

00:41:45.980 First ever.

00:41:47.040 First ever.

00:41:48.140 Thank you for your willingness.

00:41:49.060 They'll help you in the back, Sean. 0.96

00:41:50.820 It's so beautiful just to get an email, gay pilot. 0.84

00:41:53.800 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts women

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00:44:04.200 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:44:08.420 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:44:13.480 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:44:17.300 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:44:18.640 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:44:22.260 So no, I am not your guru.

00:44:26.040 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:44:28.680 I lied to police.

00:44:29.960 I lied to everybody.

00:44:30.680 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:44:34.000 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

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00:45:36.100 We get to the hotel that you booked.

00:45:40.500 Thank you.

00:45:41.380 I mean, I'm paying, to be clear.

00:45:42.860 But you topped me and figured it out.

00:45:46.660 And then...

00:45:47.860 My itinerary.

00:45:48.960 Remember, I asked you.

00:45:50.040 I'm so proud of it.

00:45:50.840 And I'm not that person.

00:45:52.280 But Jacqueline, I texted you.

00:45:53.960 You didn't respond. 0.95

00:45:54.360 I said, was there a woman in your room?

00:45:56.320 I responded.

00:45:57.260 No, no.

00:45:58.580 She texted it three times.

00:46:03.160 Okay. 0.99

00:46:03.320 because there was a woman in mine 0.99

00:46:06.260 okay go

00:46:07.820 but you also seem to think

00:46:09.500 it was a perk

00:46:11.000 like

00:46:11.420 so because there was a plate

00:46:17.520 there was a plate of cheese

00:46:19.920 and a nice note

00:46:20.580 there was an incredible charcuterie

00:46:22.380 not a single piece of meat

00:46:24.820 that's a classic question

00:46:26.800 it was a meatless but

00:46:29.160 you know

00:46:29.760 no it was nice it was totally nice

00:46:32.920 But I, walking in the hall 1.00

00:46:35.220 And you go, is this Amex shit? 1.00

00:46:36.800 Okay 1.00

00:46:36.980 I don't have Amex, this one's pushing me to get it

00:46:41.320 I might, is everyone

00:46:42.220 Okay, whatever, anyone here work for Amex?

00:46:44.300 Kate is writing, I cannot believe we take to the stage

00:46:47.380 And talk about Amex, but I'm so proud

00:46:49.200 At the same time

00:46:49.960 To be not given money by Amex

00:46:52.780 And then to just do theater about Amex

00:46:55.260 Amex really made my day great

00:46:56.480 I don't know if you know about this experience credit

00:46:59.420 But it's applicable at the spa

00:47:00.880 It's applicable at the restaurant 0.92

00:47:02.120 Didn't someone fucking get Amex to give us, I don't know, something? 0.88

00:47:05.560 Yes, something, because I've seen them shell out for others. 0.98

00:47:08.740 But not only did I have charcuterie, there was a woman.

00:47:11.520 Okay, so listen.

00:47:12.860 So I'm walking.

00:47:14.160 I'm walking.

00:47:15.280 I see my thing.

00:47:16.340 I take out the room key.

00:47:18.600 My hand is starting.

00:47:19.780 And then I hear a door moving. 0.99

00:47:21.320 And I go, oh, shit, it's not my room. 0.99

00:47:23.080 Woman. 0.99

00:47:24.560 Hi.

00:47:25.060 And I went, oh.

00:47:26.720 Oh, hi.

00:47:27.280 I didn't expect to see you.

00:47:28.200 Look at my acting.

00:47:29.360 Oh, hi.

00:47:30.080 No, no, no.

00:47:30.540 We saw.

00:47:31.140 we were blown away. That was crazy, right? Stay in it.

00:47:33.700 Yeah, yeah. I go,

00:47:35.300 oh, I didn't expect to

00:47:36.900 see you, you know.

00:47:39.420 She's probably

00:47:40.500 58, maybe. I don't know

00:47:43.240 why that matters, but I'm just, I'm trying to get older. I think I met her

00:47:45.320 later, and I think she was 53, but anyway. 0.85

00:47:47.440 She might be 40, like, I'm bad, but she's,

00:47:49.220 but she was, you know, I'm just saying, older, very

00:47:51.140 professional. Yeah.

00:47:52.880 And I go, okay, and she goes, come in.

00:47:55.280 And me and I go, I don't want you to be

00:47:57.280 in my room. I want to be alone.

00:47:59.160 like it's not a good business model for them to be hiding in your room okay i go i'm about to go

00:48:05.100 in there and take my pants off miss okay okay you're in there going okay yeah okay you're in

00:48:11.560 there rubbing the main chain girl who knows where you keep this is what you said save it for stage 0.98

00:48:18.140 because you still don't understand every time you bring this up i just mean she wasn't supposed to

00:48:22.280 be in there okay this is crazy okay i don't know that this perk is all that it's cracked

00:48:28.180 Jacqueline, Jacqueline.

00:48:29.000 She goes, she goes, she goes, here's your bathroom. 0.66

00:48:31.580 I go, yeah. 0.76

00:48:33.900 She starts walking around. 0.74

00:48:35.480 She goes.

00:48:35.680 It was an error.

00:48:36.780 I think she had set your charcuterie a little too late, maybe.

00:48:40.820 No, no, no. 1.00

00:48:41.660 This bitch was, listen. 1.00

00:48:43.020 She goes, she goes, I'm from like customer services or whatever. 1.00

00:48:46.540 Okay.

00:48:47.460 Get out.

00:48:48.180 Okay.

00:48:49.200 Please get out.

00:48:49.940 In a suit.

00:48:50.420 I don't even like that you have your shoes on.

00:48:51.860 I take my shoes off.

00:48:52.880 Like, I'm not even going to wear my, my, these are shoes I wore at the airport.

00:48:56.240 They're covered in piss, hepatitis, and I'm not going to wear these in here. 1.00

00:49:00.540 There she is in her shoes. 1.00

00:49:01.780 Was there a woman in your room? 1.00

00:49:04.140 Was there a woman in your room?

00:49:05.000 No, there wasn't.

00:49:05.900 I don't know why there wasn't.

00:49:07.280 Was there a woman in your room?

00:49:09.040 I couldn't hear it.

00:49:10.380 The woman goes, the woman goes, and I saw the charcuterie.

00:49:14.420 I went, oh, my God, how nice.

00:49:15.800 Wow.

00:49:16.380 Still won't leave.

00:49:17.420 And then she goes, if there's anything you need, I'm like, we're here for a night.

00:49:21.160 I was like, oh, it's such a quick trip.

00:49:23.540 Just in and out.

00:49:24.300 Get out.

00:49:24.800 you know

00:49:25.240 interesting detail

00:49:26.940 at the check-in

00:49:28.420 station

00:49:29.260 the concierge said

00:49:30.940 would you like

00:49:31.620 turndown service

00:49:32.560 it's between

00:49:33.140 5.30 and I

00:49:34.020 and we both went

00:49:34.580 yeah sure

00:49:35.120 we'll be on stage

00:49:36.320 normally I don't like it

00:49:37.500 normally I'm going

00:49:38.200 one night whatever

00:49:39.080 but I went

00:49:39.460 I'm going to be a

00:49:40.160 special cookie or something

00:49:41.520 you know

00:49:41.880 well no

00:49:42.180 it's sad when you think

00:49:43.060 it's going to mean a mint

00:49:43.840 and it doesn't

00:49:44.440 oh exactly

00:49:44.960 water

00:49:45.980 literally

00:49:46.400 I'm like

00:49:46.840 please give me free water 0.99

00:49:48.040 so it's fucked up 0.98

00:49:49.240 okay 0.97

00:49:49.480 actually I asked

00:49:50.760 the same thing

00:49:51.420 is there anything

00:49:52.340 you would really love

00:49:53.040 at turndown

00:49:53.480 and I go

00:49:53.800 agua

00:49:54.480 Yeah, probably like a refill of water would be really nice.

00:49:56.840 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:49:57.480 So she goes, she goes, um...

00:50:00.440 Wait, what did you...

00:50:02.580 Oh, turn on service.

00:50:03.460 And I'm laughing because it's so inconsequential.

00:50:05.300 Oh, yeah.

00:50:05.560 Oh, so I walk in there.

00:50:07.180 All the curtains have been...

00:50:08.260 It's 1.30 in the afternoon.

00:50:09.620 All the curtains have been drawn.

00:50:11.360 My bed has been, like, turned down.

00:50:13.380 Oh, drawn closed.

00:50:14.240 She goes, yeah, drawn closed.

00:50:15.680 I go in, I went, well, this is really, like, grim.

00:50:18.560 Like, I'm walking in.

00:50:19.640 They also said good afternoon to me way later.

00:50:22.500 Okay, anyway, sorry. 1.00

00:50:23.260 and then she goes

00:50:24.780 I understand you would like

00:50:26.480 turndown service

00:50:27.500 and I looked around

00:50:28.200 and I go 1.00

00:50:28.640 you fucking freak 1.00

00:50:30.600 not at 1.30 1.00

00:50:31.600 but I just didn't

00:50:32.480 I went oh yeah

00:50:33.280 and I just was like 1.00

00:50:33.900 get her out

00:50:34.400 don't

00:50:34.620 was it turned down?

00:50:37.200 yes

00:50:37.560 how do you know?

00:50:39.720 I looked over

00:50:40.480 and the bed was turned down

00:50:41.760 and all the curtains were closed

00:50:43.500 and then I go

00:50:44.060 I might open these

00:50:45.080 and then she goes

00:50:45.700 oh let me open them for you

00:50:47.280 I don't know that that's

00:50:48.060 turned down Kate

00:50:48.840 it's freaking turn down

00:50:50.800 I mean I think

00:50:51.520 that's just what the bed

00:50:52.300 it's not like

00:50:52.780 the bed is normally tucked under there were shortbread cookies next to the bed are you joking

00:50:57.240 there were shortbread cookies next to the bed i didn't see that it was turned down

00:51:00.700 and i start opening the curtains and she goes well there's anything you need

00:51:05.720 she goes here you have a show tonight was she a little well kate i didn't tell you this kate kate

00:51:10.700 kate kate kate i've been embarrassed to admit okay i was like wondering if we can go there okay 0.97

00:51:16.320 no she said it she said it the ploy so you said is this amex shit okay and i go it could be amex 0.99

00:51:22.520 or it could be my my my vip ploy you go you go was it nadia i go what the fuck are you talking 0.99

00:51:30.180 about so you go oh nadia is that who that is you know who that is okay so i need to explain so 0.99

00:51:37.340 should i explain my ploy yes go all right it's bold but you know we have a podcast that we made 0.90

00:51:45.260 to beg for free shit there's no shocking to go i have a ploy to get something free you know 0.73

00:51:49.420 forget free charcuterie so i like to call ahead okay and say um something like oh yeah are we 0.99

00:51:57.500 going to be able to check in early okay or or have like our editor call in someone okay a voice

00:52:03.000 unlike my own and say you know we have got to get to the theater so we just want to check that and

00:52:07.800 there's also a way of checking the mx benefits have been recognized okay you know we're guaranteed

00:52:12.480 early check in late checkout you know so you know we're gonna we want to check if we're actually

00:52:17.060 going to you think we'll be getting early because we do have to get to the theater by whatever

00:52:20.740 because we're performing in town okay get to google in folks yeah that's a signal to the

00:52:27.360 front desk get to google now get on it okay and then occasionally i have found that this leads

00:52:33.740 to a note acknowledging we're so glad you're performing in town and occasionally a charcuterie

00:52:39.660 i will say one thing too she goes is there anything i can get you she goes water i go oh

00:52:44.840 i would actually love some additional water she goes she looks like this she goes six bottles

00:52:48.820 wait she said six bottles to me she goes i'm gonna bring you six bottles she goes six bottles and i 0.97

00:52:53.800 go i'm not a i go actually fuck it yeah me too i accepted too now i had a moment where and that's 0.96

00:53:02.140 the big that's the big what's the craziest amount of water i could bring you six bottles right that's 0.98

00:53:07.720 kind of the like because we both said we needed nothing then this is where i go were we wrong

00:53:12.260 were fools to go I could crave a good peach I mean a good peach like was this her opportunity

00:53:19.180 like I'm sorry it's not even very like heavy-duty diva I was lost in the narrative about the good 0.98

00:53:24.100 peach I was like she said is there anything we can get for you right because obviously you know

00:53:28.300 to be a performer I have to sit in a chair yeah have a champagne you know you know whatever

00:53:32.360 and yeah what could I buy and I had nothing I had nothing in my mind I was so thrilled by the note

00:53:38.840 the charcuterie.

00:53:40.140 Anyway.

00:53:41.420 Now, I will say

00:53:42.160 she sort of...

00:53:43.300 Who's Nadia? 1.00

00:53:45.300 That's...

00:53:45.780 I think...

00:53:46.080 I believe it's the same woman 1.00

00:53:46.900 because I don't think

00:53:47.340 the six bottles...

00:53:48.640 I feel we're picturing

00:53:49.500 her name like...

00:53:50.320 You're like,

00:53:50.600 oh, is it Nadia?

00:53:51.600 That's the way you said it

00:53:52.300 to me back then.

00:53:52.900 No, because I clocked it

00:53:53.760 when I was...

00:53:54.460 I wanted to clock it,

00:53:55.500 okay, but...

00:53:56.860 She's up.

00:53:57.420 So I'm in my room.

00:53:58.620 She's probably just finished

00:53:59.620 in your room, okay?

00:54:00.500 She comes up,

00:54:01.260 knocks on my door.

00:54:02.460 Oh, okay, okay.

00:54:03.260 I got a knock and go,

00:54:03.900 hello, you know,

00:54:04.860 hi, welcome to your hotel,

00:54:06.500 whatever. 0.93

00:54:07.000 Pretty nude, yeah.

00:54:08.840 like open it up da da da and thank you i'm i'm because i too want to be alone right so i'm just

00:54:14.540 like thank you everything's like so beautiful thank you what a great hotel whatever i'm like

00:54:18.380 going hard to the harder you go the quicker you're out right like oh jesus it's unbelievable

00:54:24.140 in here okay right it's true it's true i'm trying to up it i keep upping it and i i start to i start

00:54:30.560 to okay i start to get like like i'm like i've accepted the like there's nothing you can do

00:54:36.440 there's nothing good even more water okay right and then six bottles sure and then and then I'm

00:54:41.760 like unbelievable Nadia unbelievable Nadia okay and I'm starting to a slow close okay and but

00:54:49.300 she's not reducing she's not fading out at the same rhythm of my gentle door closing okay and

00:54:58.000 I actually was forced to come back open okay and then I go surely surely this time we all now we're

00:55:04.600 all on the beat okay and i go unbelievable not just thank you i'll reach out i'll reach out if

00:55:10.680 i need anything one more time one more time okay and don't be in the room i keep flashing back to

00:55:24.120 seeing the and by the cortisol in the system someone's in my room i'm in the wrong room i'm

00:55:28.760 about hi what are you doing in the room doll by the way i just actually i was watching you do

00:55:37.320 this gorgeous act out i go i had this imagine if she were here

00:55:41.580 imagine it i was imagining nadia going i reckon i'll see their show tonight where i had this

00:55:49.100 whole thing can you imagine jacqueline i'm and then i go she's sitting in the back no no no wait

00:55:55.180 wait wait wait okay hold on hold on okay a couple things to say i want to be very clear i want to

00:56:01.020 be very very clear okay i only have not said the following because i think it would be boring okay 0.99

00:56:09.800 okay you say no nadia fucking rocked it okay she rocked it okay by the way she fucking rules 0.96

00:56:18.220 because be in the room be in the room so i come in i go i don't like that chair i need the lamp 1.00

00:56:24.640 moved whatever she's right there right she's got the shortbread did yeah she showed me where the

00:56:31.560 can was this is a mistake i never make okay let me go like this was so interesting kate because

00:56:36.960 aren't i the one who's always they could be here or or you can't put you wanted to post the pilot

00:56:41.360 huge paranoia levels and i go no you go quite poking from the back i go his family knows what

00:56:45.520 he looks right from behind i mean they do this idea that from behind you can't recognize someone

00:56:50.040 right the pilot i'm always the one who's worried like no you're about this sort of thing so i'm

00:56:55.580 i always want to go oh let's say the name of the hotel on stage she's like no way they'll come kill

00:56:59.420 us no okay no kate goes you think they're gonna come kill you i go no okay it's not what it is i

00:57:05.120 just don't like the idea of it it's fine it's something in it that's just not it's it's it's

00:57:09.880 not good and i got news folks and this is gonna be hard to break to people that's not her name

00:57:16.100 It's not?

00:57:16.900 Kate and I discussed it before coming out.

00:57:19.040 It's not Nadia. 0.96

00:57:19.560 Right, Kate? 0.59

00:57:20.180 Oh, I literally fell for it.

00:57:22.560 I am gullible.

00:57:23.900 I'm putty.

00:57:24.700 I truly just fell into that trap.

00:57:28.820 We're getting into a car to go to the venue last night.

00:57:32.020 Jacqueline, spoiling me, orders a Tesla.

00:57:34.920 No, I didn't.

00:57:35.580 I ordered a Comfort Plus, okay? 0.78

00:57:40.260 And a Tesla came up. 0.88

00:57:41.280 I go, give me the shittiest cage you got.

00:57:42.920 I'll just pray to get there, right?

00:57:44.860 Yes.

00:57:46.120 Okay, car rolls up.

00:57:48.440 By the way, I want to be clear.

00:57:49.460 We're not in traffic.

00:57:50.340 It's not like, get in, get in.

00:57:51.380 The car's a car.

00:57:51.720 Not at all.

00:57:52.460 It's like a kind of leisurely, we get in, hi.

00:57:55.540 I sit down.

00:57:56.800 I have my bag.

00:57:57.400 I close my door.

00:57:58.780 Jacqueline is unloading.

00:58:00.460 She's a couple bags.

00:58:01.060 She puts a bag in.

00:58:01.620 A couple bags. 1.00

00:58:02.100 I'm hauling a lot of shit. 0.99

00:58:02.960 She puts another bag in. 1.00

00:58:04.280 She starts to enter the car, and this motherfucker starts driving. 0.99

00:58:09.700 And I'm not talking about even a gentle. 0.99

00:58:11.720 i'm talking about he starts driving and i and i start going whoa it took a second because it was

00:58:19.600 so i'm like whoa whoa whoa i got three woes out and you're still driving still driving i was so

00:58:26.040 stunned okay that i didn't my woes came later they overlapped hers but it was like whoa whoa

00:58:34.100 whoa and then together whoa whoa whoa all we had was whoa like yeah you have what you have

00:58:39.880 you know i couldn't reach for stop no because i could i couldn't reach for stop i was okay

00:58:46.260 because it's it's exactly this is it's it's it's it's that moment where the weight is the car had

00:58:51.960 your leg okay and but my weight has already started to go in there and it is going and i

00:58:57.060 think it was one of these you know no it took you like it took me we moved like and i was i was

00:59:03.320 whoa whoa whoa whoa and then we're screaming and i'm like in shock and then i get in right

00:59:08.160 You get in.

00:59:08.720 I get in, and I'm like, I'm like. 1.00

00:59:10.900 By the way, this fucking. 0.98

00:59:11.980 Because I'm trying to get in, because getting in feels like safety, 0.99

00:59:14.560 because I was about to get sort of ruined by the road and the tire, right?

00:59:19.240 So it's this weird thing, like, get in the car, get in the car.

00:59:21.480 And then I have a moment where I go, do we just go, like,

00:59:24.440 I don't think this is going to work out, man.

00:59:26.060 Get out.

00:59:26.640 I know, I know.

00:59:27.500 So you get in.

00:59:28.680 We sit down. 1.00

00:59:29.780 This motherfucker doesn't even turn his head. 1.00

00:59:33.020 And I go. 1.00

00:59:35.000 So we're sitting there, and I go, you know,

00:59:36.420 typically when you almost run when you almost kill someone with your car it's customary to say

00:59:40.700 i'm sorry she said no i was like scared when kate said it i go i was in a victim i was in a i was in

00:59:51.080 a fawning mode you know freeze flight yeah okay i was fawning i go oh you want to fight he he looks

00:59:59.820 straight ahead won't even and i'm like he didn't acknowledge that no no he does this to me this

01:00:03.540 guy's maybe 32 he's a young guy he turns around and kind of looks at me like this like no i'm not

01:00:09.700 and i went my blood is boiling yeah at this point we're driving it's not a long drive it's 10 minute

01:00:14.780 drive and i'm already going what am i gonna do what am i gonna do right i have these visualizations

01:00:19.260 of breaking his car window like with my the umbrella i had i had all these wild fantasies

01:00:23.740 and you started texting me too i text you zero i text you one star one star one star terrified that

01:00:29.840 You know, I was already anticipating the fawning.

01:00:32.140 I thought you would give him four.

01:00:33.180 Because, by the way, I'm five stars no matter what. 0.99

01:00:35.400 You can do crazy shit I'm going to give you five stars. 1.00

01:00:38.760 You don't fuck with someone's job unless it's, yeah, no, no, no. 1.00

01:00:42.080 You don't fuck with your job. 1.00

01:00:42.860 You can say, oh, I'd like to wake up next to you every morning, sweetheart. 1.00

01:00:46.520 They say it every time.

01:00:47.940 They say it every time.

01:00:48.340 Like, I'm just like, this is tough work, like, five stars.

01:00:52.300 And sometimes I love it.

01:00:54.860 Sometimes I love it.

01:00:55.740 Sometimes I'm digging it out of them.

01:00:58.600 Where are you going tonight, sweetie?

01:01:00.620 Yeah.

01:01:01.400 No, five stars forever.

01:01:03.720 So I text you one star, all caps.

01:01:05.540 And by the way, I've been doing a new trick,

01:01:06.900 which is on the way out of the car,

01:01:08.000 you go, oh, well, that's what I call a five-star ride, okay?

01:01:12.280 You let them know it's coming their way.

01:01:13.980 So they don't come back and get you.

01:01:14.740 Make sure that they aren't angry,

01:01:16.860 they heard the nibble of a quest bar

01:01:18.260 briefly in the back seat.

01:01:19.700 Yeah.

01:01:20.600 With my purse completely surrounding,

01:01:22.560 under my chin and around,

01:01:23.980 so it should have crumb dropped.

01:01:25.240 It drops into my own domain.

01:01:26.540 i sneezed into my shirt and and no one congratulated me at the airport and they

01:01:33.420 were not doing that anyway go on this guy i go hmm so we're driving i mean i'm scared actually

01:01:38.820 by the way we get the beep beep he almost like we were in someone he was like the like it's like

01:01:42.820 he spaced out or something like it was bad yeah i thought he ran a red then i realized there was

01:01:46.500 no traffic light okay yeah but something was amiss okay we get there now he goes he goes get out on

01:01:54.640 that side it's safer i did not hear that okay and i and i go okay okay classic abuser classic

01:02:04.080 abuser i loved it i felt and i go well i didn't hear that so so i i'm like yeah yeah and i'm just 0.85

01:02:10.340 like we just got to get out of this because i was shocked by kate's aggression at the beginning of

01:02:15.020 the ride i was still afraid i was fawning and she's going it's customary to say i'm sorry when

01:02:20.200 he'll almost kill a woman.

01:02:21.760 Oh no, you kept saying half, 0.99

01:02:23.660 oh, well this is the thing.

01:02:24.740 No, no, no, this is like,

01:02:25.220 so then I go,

01:02:25.860 I'm going to say something.

01:02:26.800 So then I go,

01:02:27.640 and I'm like,

01:02:28.120 I'm not going to start,

01:02:28.940 I'm not going to start freaking out,

01:02:29.920 I'm going to keep it

01:02:30.500 in this kind of register,

01:02:31.760 and I go.

01:02:32.680 But wait, door,

01:02:33.500 we've arrived,

01:02:34.360 you open your door.

01:02:34.960 I open my door.

01:02:35.960 I'm stuck in,

01:02:36.820 because we're getting out

01:02:37.420 on that second and following orders.

01:02:38.880 I'm sorry,

01:02:39.480 I should have had you

01:02:40.440 completely exit 0.93

01:02:41.120 before I started talking to him.

01:02:42.440 And I can say that now.

01:02:44.420 So,

01:02:45.080 I start in this kind of

01:02:46.660 calm register,

01:02:47.420 I go, 1.00

01:02:47.660 you know man you really could have fucked her up because that's the fucking truth i go sit with 0.99

01:02:52.920 that for a second because there was like again it's sort of the eroticism of you like doing that 0.99

01:02:57.180 like thing like this kind of manning up thing there was something like like okay like yeah well 0.97

01:03:03.060 yeah being like dude you could have fucked her up like i was like fucked her up it was like cool 0.94

01:03:07.060 like i was like yeah no i i i said i kept it i was like you know dude you really could have 0.99

01:03:12.280 fucked her up i was like and then he he turns around he turns around and goes i'm not what is 0.94

01:03:17.260 he said oh i'm not going to respond to you right and i go excuse me and i go wait what did i say 0.99

01:03:23.760 okay now this was huge okay this was huge okay okay you started in on a series of rapid fire

01:03:31.280 to everything he said okay you were coming back with stuff about his mother

01:03:34.840 so i go i go i go i go i go who raised you i go you take off in a car with a woman i go a woman

01:03:42.700 is halfway into your car you start driving you don't have the decency to say to say at least 1.00

01:03:47.200 say thank you i go what kind of woman raised you he goes whoa whoa i can't i go how fucking 1.00

01:03:51.680 bitch made are you you can't say sorry i've never heard the phrase i didn't even understand what 1.00

01:03:57.660 she was saying i just heard like bitch okay and i was like i like knew it was fucking cool okay 1.00

01:04:02.580 and then i go i go you're fucking useless yeah and call your mother okay call your mother 1.00

01:04:07.660 i go i go oh yeah i forgot what's up the big oh yeah call your give me a favor call your mother 1.00

01:04:14.200 ask her why she's such a fucking slut or something like that you know i'm still waiting to get out 0.99

01:04:18.940 and i am up to here i'm like i'm like traffic whizzing i mean kate's out of the car okay 1.00

01:04:24.440 throwing shit back into the car i'm like still in okay and i'm and i want to be clear i want to

01:04:30.100 be clear he takes off driving full speed with jackson have partly in the car really could 0.97

01:04:35.340 hurt her if he had gone like this oh my god i'm so sorry are you okay i just i totally i'm sorry

01:04:41.260 You know what we would have done?

01:04:42.260 I ain't fine.

01:04:43.060 Oh, we would have been,

01:04:43.680 it would have been more. 0.98

01:04:44.460 No, you almost killed her. 0.93

01:04:45.340 It would have been, 0.85

01:04:45.960 it would have been like,

01:04:47.920 oh my God, no, I feel,

01:04:49.080 it would have been me comforting him.

01:04:50.660 Like, I would have done what you did

01:04:53.040 and like, oh, I just want you,

01:04:54.380 like, we get it.

01:04:55.320 You know, like, we get what you did.

01:04:57.220 All we have to,

01:04:57.860 if he just expressed,

01:04:59.060 oh my God,

01:04:59.780 I just needed some acknowledgement

01:05:00.980 of the gravity of the situation

01:05:02.100 and that he took,

01:05:02.820 he started driving with your leg in the car.

01:05:04.420 And more than,

01:05:05.100 see, this was the issue.

01:05:06.080 It's really,

01:05:06.800 and I know I already pushed it before,

01:05:08.060 but as Kate was saying,

01:05:09.540 halfway to car, 0.95

01:05:10.320 A woman is halfway in a car.

01:05:11.620 I was like, I'm a woman. 0.93

01:05:12.740 I referred to you as being a woman like three times.

01:05:14.840 I was a woman.

01:05:15.440 I was so many things.

01:05:16.480 Okay, it was amazing.

01:05:17.540 But we're just like, a woman halfway in the car or whatever.

01:05:20.500 And I started worrying about precision, okay?

01:05:23.280 And I started going like, he's going to think like halfway in the car,

01:05:26.580 like I was safely lodged enough in the car that like it was mere leg dangling out.

01:05:32.120 Okay?

01:05:32.420 It was scary.

01:05:33.540 I was in the exact, and it wasn't one foot in where the car could pull away and I'm just here.

01:05:39.300 Yeah.

01:05:39.760 Okay?

01:05:40.260 yeah it was the exact place of danger okay where weight is is distributed okay okay wait is this

01:05:47.520 is the moment of the weight shift it was really bad and i also want to be clear it was long it

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 09, 2024

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