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00:02:39.360 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.840 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:03:14.820 Should we say what happened on the flight?

00:03:17.220 Okay.

00:03:17.640 Because it was interesting.

00:03:18.980 This was the night before last.

00:03:20.120 We're on the plane,

00:03:21.460 and then toward the end of the flight,

00:03:23.340 flight attendant comes forward, 0.96

00:03:25.540 kneels.

00:03:26.400 Did he kneel?

00:03:27.420 No, he didn't kneel.

00:03:28.360 Okay, okay.

00:03:30.060 In my memory, he kneeled beside me.

00:03:32.960 A single kneel, yeah.

00:03:34.040 This flight, he comes over, he goes, Kate Berlant?

00:03:37.300 Or he goes, Ms. Berlant?

00:03:38.220 And I go...

00:03:39.140 I think he said Berlant. 0.97

00:03:40.740 No, he did the correct pronunciation.

00:03:42.080 Someone said Berlant recently.

00:03:44.660 Wait, someone did say Berlant recently.

00:03:46.000 The front desk, maybe?

00:03:47.080 Anyway, it was front desk, okay.

00:03:48.220 I was like, Berlant, lantern, okay.

00:03:49.920 Yeah.

00:03:51.060 And he said, are you Ms. Berlant?

00:03:53.180 And I went, yeah, doll, you know.

00:03:55.600 Are you what?

00:03:56.160 Gold Medallion.

00:03:56.680 We want to thank you for being a gold medallion.

00:04:01.280 Remember, we appreciate your business.

00:04:03.060 And by the way, he did this thing that was almost like this hushed.

00:04:07.160 By the way, we are deep in coach.

00:04:08.980 I want to be clear.

00:04:09.780 Deep.

00:04:10.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:11.580 Oh, we're deep in coach.

00:04:13.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:14.300 And we pulled off a switch where, hey, would you like the aisle so I can sit next to my friend?

00:04:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:18.520 So I want to be very clear.

00:04:20.940 I am also gold medallion status.

00:04:24.600 Yeah.

00:04:25.440 So I start to realize first.

00:04:28.040 First I go, I see what's happening.

00:04:29.680 Okay, I'm next.

00:04:30.520 I'm going to look away now

00:04:31.940 so that he can then sort of call my name

00:04:34.720 and I can, okay.

00:04:35.700 I'm not going to be part of hers.

00:04:37.800 And then he gets to me and he's like,

00:04:39.820 okay.

00:04:40.960 So I prepare,

00:04:43.320 I prepare to be discovered the whole thing.

00:04:45.480 Okay, I look down and I'm waiting.

00:04:48.860 And you know,

00:04:49.980 there's a thing when someone disappears

00:04:52.300 in your periphery

00:04:53.900 and you go

00:04:55.080 he's gone

00:04:55.800 okay and I go

00:04:57.000 I go what the

00:04:57.540 I go I'm gold medallion

00:04:58.720 I'm gold medallion

00:04:59.380 okay I go

00:04:59.840 I'm also gold medallion

00:05:00.720 he's gone

00:05:01.240 he's gone

00:05:01.580 I was like I know

00:05:02.140 and I tried to assure you

00:05:03.220 I was like

00:05:03.560 I think they might be

00:05:04.840 going alphabetically

00:05:05.920 no I started to go

00:05:08.700 okay

00:05:08.880 I believe that

00:05:09.640 because I started to go

00:05:10.820 airlines

00:05:11.240 it's very like an airline

00:05:12.960 in the way that they don't

00:05:14.580 get you on the plane

00:05:15.440 like they should load 0.99

00:05:16.220 all the window people first

00:05:18.100 right

00:05:18.480 in my opinion

00:05:19.600 then load the middle seat

00:05:21.260 oh interesting

00:05:21.660 then load the thing

00:05:22.640 that should be the

00:05:23.180 by the way 0.98

00:05:23.420 fucking brilliant 0.98

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00:05:25.180 okay

00:05:25.560 I also have a belief

00:05:26.680 that they should have a

00:05:27.680 instead of a line

00:05:29.640 okay

00:05:29.940 they should essentially

00:05:31.800 have a

00:05:32.420 a thing that is

00:05:33.720 seat number based

00:05:34.600 so essentially

00:05:35.100 in the waiting room

00:05:36.080 right

00:05:36.580 that's not what it's called

00:05:37.340 but

00:05:37.860 we get into 7a

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00:05:40.260 okay

00:05:40.740 and it's like

00:05:41.960 this is where we are

00:05:42.840 and like

00:05:43.120 like

00:05:43.420 like it's sort of like

00:05:44.520 you know what you are

00:05:46.720 no zones

00:05:48.640 let's

00:05:49.100 let's choose

00:05:49.780 what we are

00:05:50.420 like so it'd be like

00:05:52.100 then all the aisle seats

00:05:53.120 would be

00:05:53.380 It'd be a long line

00:05:54.320 in which you have

00:05:54.860 a very specific place.

00:05:56.660 Yeah.

00:05:57.040 Not this.

00:05:58.160 That's what they call.

00:05:59.840 Yeah.

00:06:01.480 Oh, by the way,

00:06:02.240 we pulled off a...

00:06:03.260 By the way,

00:06:03.660 I've always said,

00:06:05.280 board out of your zone, honey.

00:06:07.320 Have fun. 1.00

00:06:07.540 She says board ahead of your zone.

00:06:08.780 I see this.

00:06:09.180 And by the way,

00:06:09.700 all hell could break loose.

00:06:11.020 I understand these are the kind of

00:06:12.260 modes of conduct

00:06:13.600 that keep society in place

00:06:15.000 and keep it from completely fracturing

00:06:16.440 into absolute chaos. 0.80

00:06:17.600 And she likes to fragment them.

00:06:18.160 I love to test the water.

00:06:20.340 Honey, today we were zone four.

00:06:21.920 What'd we board in?

00:06:22.760 Zone two.

00:06:23.220 did they care

00:06:23.920 no sweetie 0.66

00:06:25.000 because also

00:06:25.840 you go up there

00:06:26.820 let's just say you do that

00:06:27.840 you're zone four

00:06:28.720 you're called up

00:06:29.620 this is what happens

00:06:30.800 because it's happened to me

00:06:31.800 they go

00:06:32.140 oh we're not boarding

00:06:33.420 your zone yet

00:06:34.000 and you go

00:06:34.400 oh my god

00:06:35.520 I'm so sorry

00:06:36.020 I saw two

00:06:36.880 and they go

00:06:38.100 it's fine

00:06:38.540 they let you through

00:06:40.420 oh we're gonna have you 1.00

00:06:41.940 weave to the back

00:06:42.880 right 0.95

00:06:43.180 and be humiliated

00:06:44.300 I've seen it Kate

00:06:44.560 really

00:06:44.940 now you push it through

00:06:46.260 with sort of the forcefulness

00:06:47.720 of your like

00:06:48.520 direct intention

00:06:49.640 oh my god

00:06:50.120 I've got a four with a two

00:06:50.880 what's next 1.00

00:06:51.340 my wife is my husband

00:06:52.660 I don't know

00:06:53.760 but like

00:06:55.220 but I

00:06:56.020 yeah I lay it on thick

00:06:57.300 yeah

00:06:58.020 and just

00:06:58.880 I believe

00:06:59.380 but I believe

00:06:59.900 even more than the charm

00:07:00.720 you go really friendly

00:07:02.720 you go

00:07:03.220 how you doing this morning

00:07:04.500 and they go

00:07:05.080 oh I like her

00:07:06.240 and then they go

00:07:06.760 oh it's not her zone yet 0.83

00:07:07.980 I'm gonna kick 0.99

00:07:09.200 one of the only people here 1.00

00:07:10.400 who has any humanity

00:07:11.280 to the back of the line 1.00

00:07:12.280 I'm gonna let her through 0.99

00:07:13.640 to reward her

00:07:14.240 for being polite

00:07:14.900 I worked that

00:07:15.720 I worked that

00:07:16.360 at immigration today

00:07:17.260 I felt 0.90

00:07:17.700 I went in

00:07:19.060 with a kind of vibe

00:07:19.960 that they just

00:07:20.460 they didn't want to

00:07:21.440 give me a hard time

00:07:22.260 Oh 1.00

00:07:23.060 Immigration is where 1.00

00:07:24.340 I do my best work

00:07:25.600 I said

00:07:26.140 I had a

00:07:26.660 Performing at Vogue Theatre tonight

00:07:28.360 Why are you here?

00:07:29.540 Performing at Vogue Theatre tonight

00:07:30.640 No response

00:07:31.340 Right?

00:07:32.520 It hurts when they respond

00:07:33.080 Well, there was one of these

00:07:34.020 You know

00:07:34.420 I had an unbelievable interaction

00:07:36.940 With the immigration border officer

00:07:38.320 Coming back into the states

00:07:39.540 From, where was it? 0.89

00:07:40.600 Mexico

00:07:40.960 A couple weeks ago

00:07:41.940 I'm not going to get into it

00:07:42.840 Five of those vacation

00:07:43.620 No, but the guy goes

00:07:46.220 No, no, that's not it

00:07:47.160 Hang on, hold

00:07:47.800 Talk about something

00:07:48.400 Let me remember

00:07:48.880 Okay

00:07:49.160 There was a couple things

00:07:51.000 We meant to cover

00:07:52.160 oh yeah yeah so so it's mexico he never came back to me okay he it wasn't alphabetic oh no

00:07:59.540 the whole point he never came back he never came back because hold yourself hold your thought hold

00:08:03.520 your thought okay don't leave i'm letting go it's not worth it no we never do that back we'll go

00:08:07.760 back okay hold it i'd have it or do it now i just want to say the reason i brought up the line at

00:08:14.120 the airport is because airlines are like that they would do it alphabetically even though i'm

00:08:18.480 right there right there airports they're always sort of like these inefficient but then there's 0.99

00:08:23.680 these moments of efficiency i believe he never came back yeah he never came back that's fucked 0.99

00:08:29.280 up man yeah yeah i was humiliated i actually felt i felt a little embarrassed for you 0.99

00:08:36.180 like she got to do her whole genial by the way it made me kind of go oh fuck yeah i have to say 0.98

00:08:44.740 Even back there in coach, I went, you're right. 0.99

00:08:47.140 I am a woman.

00:08:48.340 You know, I felt like, I felt like respect.

00:08:51.080 No, and there's a thing where there's a faux hush quality.

00:08:55.200 And I feel like everyone else is one.

00:08:56.540 It's for everybody else.

00:08:57.760 Okay.

00:08:58.240 No, no, it's sick.

00:08:58.980 It is for everyone around.

00:09:00.800 Okay.

00:09:01.000 And it's kind of, I mean, it's an erotic spectacle for all.

00:09:04.000 Like.

00:09:04.220 No, it's honestly.

00:09:05.060 It's like, oh, Miss Berlant, you know, and then it's like, we just want to thank you. 1.00

00:09:08.480 It's deeply homosaping. 1.00

00:09:09.560 And it's like Neanderthal, like prestige. 1.00

00:09:12.880 That one's fine. 0.58

00:09:13.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:14.040 Power, power, power.

00:09:15.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:09:15.860 Kill the king. 1.00

00:09:16.560 Kill the king. 1.00

00:09:16.780 By the way, it's scary. 0.99

00:09:17.660 It's like you give people power,

00:09:18.900 they'll ruin the world.

00:09:19.600 Because even I in that moment went, 1.00

00:09:20.820 yeah, I am a fucking gold medallion. 0.98

00:09:23.320 What did you do? 1.00

00:09:24.360 I fly more than you on this airline.

00:09:27.220 You think because I'm in coach,

00:09:28.880 I'm nowhere.

00:09:29.660 Yeah, you think I'm nothing back here.

00:09:30.780 Well, that's also.

00:09:31.260 Do you think Marlon Brando?

00:09:32.040 I don't know what I'm doing.

00:09:32.220 They bring you down?

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.780 Because, you know, coach,

00:09:35.300 all whatever, you know,

00:09:36.440 deep in coach,

00:09:36.980 but then to be elevated,

00:09:37.880 that's actually a little bit farcical.

00:09:39.980 I'm realizing now.

00:09:40.680 I actually think it's a mockery.

00:09:42.760 I think gold medallion,

00:09:44.840 they march into coach

00:09:46.620 to go...

00:09:46.980 They come deep into coach

00:09:47.820 and they're sweating.

00:09:48.720 They're sweating.

00:09:49.300 Yeah.

00:09:49.700 Yeah, almost to go like... 0.99

00:09:51.420 They go, poor peasant. 0.52

00:09:53.280 You too. 0.50

00:09:53.680 And they go,

00:09:53.960 you're a gold medallion

00:09:54.600 and you're still not paying up.

00:09:56.300 I don't know.

00:09:56.660 There's something weird about it.

00:09:57.380 You're right.

00:09:57.780 It's actually really...

00:09:58.960 It is dark.

00:10:00.360 Oh, whatever.

00:10:01.680 The immigration officer,

00:10:02.600 I'll just say...

00:10:02.840 No, not whatever.

00:10:03.580 I'm interested.

00:10:04.240 I'll just say I was coming back

00:10:04.640 from Mexico.

00:10:05.920 Immigration officer.

00:10:07.660 What were you doing in Mexico?

00:10:08.660 I was on a trip.

00:10:09.360 What do you do for work

00:10:11.100 That's weird he said that

00:10:12.400 And I went

00:10:13.060 I'm a comedian

00:10:14.500 Fatal flaw

00:10:15.440 Right

00:10:15.800 Fatal mistake

00:10:16.820 Never say that

00:10:17.440 And he goes

00:10:18.460 Oh do you have any drugs with you

00:10:20.600 He goes

00:10:20.980 And what

00:10:21.280 We had a little chat back and forth

00:10:22.760 And he goes

00:10:23.220 With a big smile

00:10:24.300 Do you have any drugs on you

00:10:25.600 Did you bring back any drugs

00:10:26.600 From Mexico 1.00

00:10:27.020 I almost wanted to go 1.00

00:10:27.740 Yeah dude

00:10:28.500 You know like it was like

00:10:29.300 He was sort of feeding you

00:10:30.760 Yeah

00:10:31.300 And I went

00:10:33.840 I went

00:10:34.680 I go

00:10:35.400 We're in LA

00:10:36.060 I don't need to bring drugs here

00:10:37.060 Wait you go what

00:10:37.780 I gotta go, honey, we're in L.A. 0.99

00:10:39.460 I need to bring drugs from Mexico. 1.00

00:10:40.900 We had a laugh. 1.00

00:10:42.040 It was like the interact.

00:10:43.420 Oh, you were able to do the jokes about drugs.

00:10:46.720 I gotta go, no, I'm in L.A.

00:10:48.880 Ganja town, baby.

00:10:49.920 Like, whatever.

00:10:51.020 We had.

00:10:51.540 Oh, that's good.

00:10:52.640 We were laughing.

00:10:54.280 Can you tell them about the train?

00:10:55.480 It's like my favorite kind of non-story.

00:10:57.820 OK, the train guy.

00:10:59.760 Oh, yeah.

00:11:00.100 And it's going to be huge for all of us.

00:11:01.420 It's not even a non-story.

00:11:02.500 We caught the train.

00:11:03.740 Really romantic and exciting.

00:11:04.980 Oh, that story.

00:11:06.080 I forgot about that.

00:11:07.040 oh what were you talking about the man on the train wait so was i oh i was just saying that i

00:11:13.840 thought you were talking about the man in the train station no but that was really sweet we

00:11:17.960 never talked about him so early on actually the very first on the airport in los angeles heading

00:11:23.720 out on the tour okay i took a video of something and i never sent it to you and it was as i was

00:11:27.800 walking in to the Celsius, the Celsius. Yeah. I don't recall getting a response. I mean, like

00:11:39.320 to me, it was like one of the greatest videos ever made. So I'm walking in a lot going on. Yes.

00:11:44.300 I have a Celsius in hand on the way into the airport. Okay. Rolling suitcase, big, you know,

00:11:49.440 hard shell. Okay. And I've rested it. Yeah. I've rested it on the thing and then it's open. I've

00:11:56.800 and drinking. I rest in there. And then I start to go in, you know, to the airport and I go and

00:12:02.260 I go, I look down and I sometimes let, let it roll free to catch up with me. Like kind of like,

00:12:07.600 right. It's not like I do it on purpose, but it just happens sometimes. And I just glanced down

00:12:13.720 and I see an open Celsius just rolling along atop my suitcase. And I thought that was hysterical.

00:12:20.880 Okay. And so I sent it, I said, okay, in my mind, you never heard that story. You didn't know about

00:12:26.420 it and then here we are again this morning and in philadelphia's station also called union station

00:12:34.000 i think gorgeous you know gorgeous tree go go see it if you can beautiful beautiful yeah there's no

00:12:40.960 story here oh other than i became self-conscious about no no i just i had a huge mountain valley

00:12:46.360 resting on my suitcase we had huge gorgeous you know you know the guys huge leaders what

00:12:51.880 pure

00:12:53.580 yeah

00:12:54.460 yeah

00:12:55.520 yeah

00:12:55.840 the glass

00:12:56.380 you could taste

00:12:56.920 in these

00:12:57.440 okay

00:12:57.720 yeah

00:12:58.400 and this man

00:12:59.820 next to us

00:13:00.400 an older man

00:13:01.040 not just a man

00:13:01.480 like an elderly

00:13:02.520 it was actually 1.00

00:13:03.660 I almost started crying

00:13:04.620 he was like

00:13:05.160 104

00:13:05.740 next to us

00:13:06.440 next to us

00:13:06.960 on the wooden

00:13:07.660 on the wooden

00:13:08.940 bench

00:13:09.740 wait I want to get it right

00:13:10.440 didn't he say

00:13:11.020 hey kid

00:13:11.800 that's a lot of water

00:13:12.620 did he call you kid

00:13:13.320 it was something like that 1.00

00:13:14.560 fuck 1.00

00:13:15.420 it was like 1.00

00:13:16.940 it was like

00:13:17.400 wow son

00:13:18.520 it was something like that

00:13:19.120 yeah

00:13:19.500 my favorite

00:13:20.660 I think it was kid

00:13:21.600 yeah

00:13:22.720 I think so.

00:13:23.860 It was so sweet.

00:13:24.700 Well, I almost got his information.

00:13:25.840 Like, I was like,

00:13:26.620 I don't know why this needs to continue,

00:13:28.120 but it does.

00:13:28.560 I felt that a lot on this tour.

00:13:29.560 Like, with those housemen,

00:13:30.940 those bellmen.

00:13:31.900 I know, I know.

00:13:32.840 The bellmen.

00:13:33.080 But we'll get to them.

00:13:34.140 But, yeah, he said,

00:13:35.260 wow, kid, that's a lot of water.

00:13:36.480 And I went, look at mine.

00:13:37.780 You know, I'm already halfway done.

00:13:39.400 And he went, I couldn't drink all that.

00:13:41.300 We went into a full number.

00:13:42.800 Okay, we went into a full number.

00:13:44.400 I started making up a lot.

00:13:45.700 I just, yeah, I sweated out.

00:13:47.000 Okay.

00:13:47.380 I did hear you say that.

00:13:49.180 Like, I must just sweat it out.

00:13:51.020 No, because he goes like,

00:13:52.640 I'd have to pee every three or something.

00:13:54.060 He didn't say pee.

00:13:54.740 That would be far too.

00:13:55.920 No, I know.

00:13:56.360 He didn't say pee.

00:13:56.920 He said, I'd be using the bathroom all the time

00:13:58.880 if I drank that much wine.

00:14:00.380 Okay.

00:14:00.760 And that's when I.

00:14:02.740 We were having so much fun.

00:14:04.120 We were creating a community.

00:14:05.700 And then he goes, where are you headed?

00:14:07.680 Again, tears falling.

00:14:08.620 Not really.

00:14:09.080 But I was like, you know, seized with emotion.

00:14:11.760 We thought we were all in the same.

00:14:12.680 He's like, you're on the 1.30.

00:14:13.700 I'm like, no, we're on the 25.51.

00:14:15.760 He's like, no, I mean the time.

00:14:16.760 I'm like, still no.

00:14:17.700 We're on the 12.13.

00:14:19.000 And then we both spaced out

00:14:20.400 and realize that we're moments from missing the train

00:14:22.260 and we get up.

00:14:24.120 Another comment about the water is made like,

00:14:25.920 well, good luck, drink all the water.

00:14:27.540 Oh, thank God, Merry Christmas.

00:14:29.200 And then, and then I just-

00:14:30.880 And it threw me somehow about the water.

00:14:32.340 It just threw me, okay?

00:14:33.720 A huge shatter.

00:14:36.220 So I went running off with it on top of the thing.

00:14:41.080 You know, I feel like every day I like drop something,

00:14:44.580 watch, think it's going to break and it doesn't.

00:14:46.800 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:14:47.360 Like that's a big part of my life is like shit not breaking. 0.89

00:14:50.400 so i was astonished okay to just see glass shatter on like a marble floor straight up 0.91

00:14:56.800 shatter it's like a million pieces and we're late this is you want to cry you want to cry he goes

00:15:03.080 he goes i'll take care of it get to your train i'll take care of it go go no and jacqueline you

00:15:11.180 go with your hands to pick it up me and the old man saying don't don't pick up with their hands

00:15:14.860 i feel a little guilty though i feel like we didn't really do we were supposed to report it

00:15:19.560 to the front of the house.

00:15:20.480 No, no, no, no.

00:15:21.280 We were like, no.

00:15:23.140 There's people here

00:15:23.800 cleaning up

00:15:24.260 because they are.

00:15:24.800 It's like there are people

00:15:25.300 that are going to the train station.

00:15:26.360 That's happening constantly, right?

00:15:27.680 Spills and spills

00:15:28.960 and other thrills.

00:15:29.800 Anyone who needed to know

00:15:30.720 saw, okay?

00:15:31.860 Okay.

00:15:32.500 It was dead center

00:15:33.860 in the middle.

00:15:34.560 It was dead center.

00:15:35.480 It was the most obvious

00:15:36.400 thing that's ever happened

00:15:37.160 in a train station.

00:15:38.480 Yeah.

00:15:40.500 Imagine this,

00:15:41.400 1 a.m.,

00:15:42.040 backseat of a cab,

00:15:43.420 talking to a dear friend.

00:15:44.920 She said something

00:15:46.140 with a lot of gravity

00:15:47.680 and then it was this.

00:15:49.560 and and I didn't hear what she said and instead of going sorry what I reacted as though I had heard

00:15:55.060 yeah and I was like what and then she was like yeah yeah and at any moment I could have gone

00:16:03.140 I'm sorry because every second that passes it becomes crazier you can't double back and go

00:16:08.280 by the way we've been having this whole moment I have no idea what you said no no however I see

00:16:13.240 there is I would believe I would believe in sort of spirit of humanity that no the longer it goes

00:16:18.260 the greater the meaning of when you admit it later oh by the way i woke up in the middle of

00:16:22.980 the night i was like oh and i was like you you didn't hear her you say what like how could you

00:16:30.100 not have no it's hard and i thought about writing an email i started drafting it in notes hey this

00:16:34.600 is crazy but never did it so six months to a year after i never i was on a podcast once where

00:16:42.060 it's too hard to explain i mean for another time but the point is i i wrote an email and i said

00:16:47.520 I acted like I knew something and I didn't know something and I was too ashamed and I went into

00:16:52.740 an elaborate and elaborate ruse and and it was the simplest thing and guess what you know I thought

00:17:00.400 okay this is where the friendship is finally going to form with these people with these

00:17:05.240 acquaintances you know what I mean like now it's going to really take for real they weren't having

00:17:09.080 it. They were not having, and there was nothing. Can you believe that? I prostrate myself. I

00:17:16.340 crucify myself. I know. On the altar of their podcast identity. Can you hear me? Laughing it. 0.99

00:17:24.960 Can you hear me? Wait, I have an idea, which is, this is, this is one that I find bad. Have you

00:17:32.000 ever done this? Okay. You're, you're in a performance setting. Okay. Much like this.

00:17:35.740 you're in the audience if you can imagine okay okay okay you're cackling it up you're cackling

00:17:39.540 it up okay and you're just you're taking with the whole thing so performer says something you

00:17:45.200 cackle performer says something you cackle okay and then your friend goes what did they say i

00:17:49.280 missed that oh and you don't know and you don't know well this is also a critical misunderstanding

00:17:54.920 of live performance because you thank you laughter is an involuntary response or should be right yeah

00:17:59.940 it's okay to be swept up in the yes the orgasmic flow of live performance and then you're you're

00:18:06.300 brought out of you know yes it doesn't matter it's not a linguistic uh cerebral linguistic

00:18:11.400 cerebral haha cerebral to say to say what wrong is actually almost godless what did you say

00:18:16.700 no it doesn't matter why are you plucking me out of the ocean right but i yeah i used to feel shame

00:18:23.140 like i don't know but i i did know by the way you can't say what because then you're interrupting

00:18:27.520 the phone oh oh um show missing it missing it missing it no missing it missing it i guess

00:18:33.980 you almost can never ask someone what sorry no well i think i think why i think why is one of

00:18:41.220 the rudest things you say to anyone oh in general why okay because it it someone says something okay

00:18:46.480 why okay it it inherently questions the purpose it's i don't have the words for it right now i

00:18:54.600 think but it's wrong and i've had people say this to me it's a power thing and by the way some people

00:19:00.100 will falsely understand you saying why as caring and they'll think that you're a martyr like yeah

00:19:04.900 talking talking why people go no one's asked yeah it's like oh you really care so i think it's it's

00:19:10.920 almost like an abuser tactic like oh yeah therapist i mean that's the therapist right it's they let

00:19:16.540 you do the work yeah yeah they really do the questions themselves are the rope with which

00:19:20.260 You hang yourself both in investigation and other contexts.

00:19:25.840 I can't imagine being your therapist.

00:19:28.820 Oh, I don't have one.

00:19:30.500 By the way, she's looking. 1.00

00:19:33.460 How dare you?

00:19:34.600 This is really good.

00:19:35.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:36.280 No, give it to me.

00:19:36.900 I love it.

00:19:37.360 This is really good for an LA audience.

00:19:39.140 As you know, I am actively seeking a lawyer friend.

00:19:41.500 Yeah.

00:19:42.120 And some emails came through and I was like, oh, out of state could be huge.

00:19:45.820 But also, I kind of like the idea of a lawyer friend who's like, meet me at Spago.

00:19:50.980 Do you know what I mean?

00:19:51.600 Like someone, so if anyone wants, and again, I'm actually looking, I'm not going to abuse

00:19:55.580 you.

00:19:55.960 It will be a friendship.

00:19:56.740 Poogpodcast at gmail.com.

00:19:57.700 Couple lunches a year. 0.81

00:19:59.740 I'll do whatever you want, you know, but I just think, but someone I can call in dead

00:20:03.720 of night, help, you know, that thing.

00:20:05.320 People have reached out though.

00:20:07.120 People have reached out, it's been amazing.

00:20:08.740 I'm the one fielding the emails.

00:20:10.420 I'm the one fielding the emails, okay? 1.00

00:20:12.140 she wants what she wants

00:20:15.440 and then I'm trying

00:20:15.940 to work it out

00:20:16.860 today I'm going

00:20:17.500 I'm not sure why

00:20:19.100 she specifically asked

00:20:20.100 for family law 0.99

00:20:20.860 you know what I mean

00:20:21.460 like I don't know

00:20:22.420 what she's looking to do

00:20:23.340 I really appreciate

00:20:24.160 you hearing that

00:20:25.280 I'm preparing for my eventual

00:20:25.500 orphanhood

00:20:26.340 not gonna happen

00:20:27.160 but by the way

00:20:28.200 it's never gonna happen

00:20:28.840 by the way

00:20:29.360 guess who's here tonight

00:20:30.280 my mother

00:20:31.340 Helen Burlant

00:20:33.320 she's up there

00:20:35.600 can you stand 1.00

00:20:36.260 actually can you stand 0.97

00:20:37.160 there she is

00:20:37.840 I love you mom

00:20:39.080 there she is

00:20:40.160 Helen

00:20:41.160 helen is here uh i'm gonna be flipping my hair i just want to acknowledge because

00:20:48.900 there's no volume tonight there's no volume tonight can you look at her launching do you

00:20:52.420 see that she won't listen i'm gonna say it i'm gonna embarrass her 79 i know you're not supposed

00:20:57.000 to wait you mean the way she launched yeah just like like it's launching under joy from the core

00:21:01.620 yeah yeah unbelievable

00:21:03.820 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

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00:24:47.920 Oh, yeah, this was huge.

00:24:51.320 Okay, so let me set the scene.

00:24:52.480 This is vulnerable.

00:24:54.320 So we were in San Francisco the other night.

00:24:57.260 It was a tremendous show.

00:24:58.460 Wonderful crowd.

00:25:00.340 Many of you may know from the pod,

00:25:01.920 I have family in the San Francisco Bay area.

00:25:04.560 So I invited, so I had a couple aunts, some cousins,

00:25:07.000 you know, it was really exciting.

00:25:08.740 And I go, hey, let's go after.

00:25:09.960 We were treated very well by the proper hotel.

00:25:11.820 I'll say if anyone here is from proper associates.

00:25:15.740 Loved it.

00:25:16.840 Rooftop.

00:25:17.920 cocktail and i and i knew i was like this is an expensive place it's like you know i went to the

00:25:21.480 website and i read i feel like we're not setting it up well i just want them to really understand

00:25:26.740 the facts right okay okay which is family's coming to the show no this is okay right i mean or we

00:25:33.060 could play your narrative first let's play i want objective i want i don't know the view of the

00:25:38.220 because i because because you really did help me but i could only i i could only perceive it once

00:25:43.460 I had experienced

00:25:44.160 your narrative of it.

00:25:45.020 Okay, so a key detail.

00:25:46.360 Let's actually let that play out.

00:25:47.120 15 minutes.

00:25:48.320 If you want me to do my version first.

00:25:49.840 Let's not unpack first.

00:25:50.400 Okay.

00:25:50.800 Let the prosecution,

00:25:51.940 you know.

00:25:51.960 So here's what I would say happened.

00:25:54.420 Inviting,

00:25:54.960 how many people?

00:25:55.920 Nine?

00:25:56.300 Nine people?

00:25:57.520 Get to the rooftop.

00:25:58.180 I think it was more than that.

00:25:59.600 I don't think so.

00:26:00.260 I think it was 12 to 14.

00:26:01.620 Maybe 12 including us.

00:26:02.900 It was not 14.

00:26:03.880 Really?

00:26:04.200 It was 12.

00:26:04.660 Here's what I remember, okay?

00:26:06.380 Just do the math

00:26:07.260 the way I can,

00:26:07.820 only I can, right?

00:26:09.520 Or not,

00:26:10.000 or the only way I can, right?

00:26:11.360 Yeah.

00:26:11.500 So me.

00:26:12.460 Okay, that was,

00:26:13.460 huh, then huh, right?

00:26:15.980 And two.

00:26:16.540 You count, and I'll do the huhs?

00:26:18.060 I count.

00:26:18.860 Okay, one, two, right?

00:26:20.340 Then there was kind of a, huh, huh, huh, right?

00:26:24.700 Are you still counting, or are you just in the halls?

00:26:26.160 I lost it, I'll be honest.

00:26:27.940 But I want to say there was 12 max.

00:26:30.580 Okay.

00:26:30.860 Okay, let's just say 12.

00:26:32.040 Let's say 12.

00:26:32.960 12 people.

00:26:34.840 We get to the hotel rooftop.

00:26:36.160 And by the way, the hotel was like,

00:26:37.560 we're going to give you champagne, baby.

00:26:39.240 We get there, very nice.

00:26:40.760 Everyone gets a glass of champagne.

00:26:42.980 So this has been sort of mumbled through, okay?

00:26:44.880 The idea is my family's coming to the show.

00:26:46.540 They're all coming to the show.

00:26:47.720 Afterwards, we're going to get, you know, right back.

00:26:49.680 We're going to go back to the hotel.

00:26:50.780 We'll have drinks.

00:26:51.240 We'll have drinks at the hotel.

00:26:51.860 Oh, the hotel's going to reserve a table for us,

00:26:53.560 which is something that you can have a hotel do anyway.

00:26:57.020 Right?

00:26:58.060 This is where it gets confusing.

00:26:58.960 Okay, okay.

00:26:59.440 Where is there something special happening?

00:27:01.600 Or is it just because you called direct?

00:27:03.600 My cousin said, oh, drink at the hotel.

00:27:05.480 She goes, well, the rooftop at the proper is really nice,

00:27:07.940 but good luck getting a reservation on a Friday.

00:27:09.720 And I said, I think we're going to be okay, sweetie.

00:27:12.260 No, but so it's like, and by the way, it was hell to get out there.

00:27:16.300 There's like 18 security guards.

00:27:17.460 It's the whole thing.

00:27:18.320 And people are like, you know, it's like a weird, you know, it's a weird group.

00:27:22.760 Really glass fire pits.

00:27:24.540 They lead us outside.

00:27:25.520 Beautiful fire pit.

00:27:27.140 Warm.

00:27:27.740 Pretty.

00:27:28.320 And there's no promises of anything other than like, yes, we have the table reserved for you.

00:27:32.440 So let me get there.

00:27:33.300 Very nice.

00:27:33.960 Complimentary.

00:27:34.320 And not even a table.

00:27:35.260 A fire pit.

00:27:35.900 Fire pit.

00:27:36.140 It was an area in this sort of lounge setting.

00:27:38.760 Okay.

00:27:38.900 and Kate's, Kate's made a, made a big show of, uh, the family coming over after, oh, please.

00:27:43.960 And I'm going, really? Are they going to want to haul ass from the theater? What all in Ubers or 0.52

00:27:47.780 in cars? It was a 15 to 20 minutes. 15 minutes. And it wasn't 15, 20, big difference as 15.

00:27:53.640 She goes. And I said on the family thread, I said, and I meant this absolutely no pressure

00:27:57.880 to attend. I know it's late. The show got out like 10 PM. I was like, it's late. People are

00:28:02.140 driving in. We get there. I already feel that I'm in the wrong. I just want to say as we now

00:28:06.360 really go through it all.

00:28:07.640 She said they all know.

00:28:08.560 They all know.

00:28:09.020 I was like,

00:28:09.300 really,

00:28:09.580 you sure they want to do this

00:28:10.280 at 15 times?

00:28:10.600 One of my cousins

00:28:11.220 dipped out and went,

00:28:11.840 I have to drive back

00:28:12.380 to Santa Cruz. 0.99

00:28:12.960 I'm not fucking coming. 0.99

00:28:13.800 And I went, 0.99

00:28:14.120 of course not.

00:28:14.500 You have three children. 1.00

00:28:15.360 I'm a childless whore 1.00

00:28:16.840 in the city. 1.00

00:28:17.840 You should go home.

00:28:19.220 Okay,

00:28:19.520 so we get there.

00:28:22.960 And by the way,

00:28:23.620 do not underestimate

00:28:24.920 the stress of anything.

00:28:27.640 But of,

00:28:29.860 hey,

00:28:30.120 let's meet here.

00:28:31.840 Right?

00:28:32.700 Fielding.

00:28:33.720 I over update

00:28:35.080 moments away,

00:28:35.580 minutes away yeah parking in the elevator walking six minutes out up the stairs i see you you're

00:28:40.940 gonna see me yeah but i i know that i do that chronically and i'm trying to kind of go i'll

00:28:46.060 get there it's fine but yeah i was at a 10 okay so we sit down it's lovely no i get there a little

00:28:55.220 later right i kind of roll up i settle in felt welcomed yeah it felt like like jaws it felt like

00:29:02.000 bonfire on the beach okay okay really it was everything you dream of yeah yeah right i get in 0.68

00:29:07.180 you you go free champagne free champagne okay okay okay i gotta get my ass up there they go

00:29:11.980 everyone gets a glass right so everyone gets yeah all right so now did they okay so anyway i sit down

00:29:17.560 i have a champagne there's some ordering of cocktails happening one person orders

00:29:21.240 skewers okay another person orders french fries yeah i decide i'm gonna have a burger okay here

00:29:28.380 okay

00:29:28.740 here's where things

00:29:31.120 get interesting

00:29:31.580 now I go 1.00

00:29:33.120 this is a fucking shit show 1.00

00:29:34.380 I got 12 people minimum 1.00

00:29:35.320 I will not get into

00:29:36.540 some end of the night game

00:29:37.880 I go

00:29:38.260 I'm staying at the hotel

00:29:39.380 just do mine on my room

00:29:40.980 and I want to say

00:29:41.800 I haven't even told you this

00:29:42.600 I saw you settle

00:29:43.960 privately

00:29:44.880 and I went 1.00

00:29:45.420 fuck she's good 1.00

00:29:46.620 no truly 1.00

00:29:48.220 I saw you

00:29:49.040 without even

00:29:49.720 I saw you settling

00:29:50.740 and I went

00:29:51.900 wow

00:29:53.140 because I was prepared

00:29:55.160 to buy your meal

00:29:56.400 with joy in my heart

00:29:57.620 okay

00:29:58.700 I would never.

00:29:59.620 But I see you settling out of court and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:30:02.580 So then, okay.

00:30:03.540 So yeah, some cocktails.

00:30:04.960 I have to say everyone has two rounds maybe.

00:30:07.640 Okay.

00:30:09.320 Eventually, we're there for a few hours.

00:30:10.940 Eventually, here comes, you know what, the bill.

00:30:14.420 And I had, before this whole night, I go, you know what?

00:30:17.900 I'm going to pay for it.

00:30:19.140 I'm going to be a big cocked.

00:30:21.160 You know what?

00:30:22.000 I'm going to go get what you want.

00:30:24.620 Okay.

00:30:25.660 But then when the bill comes, it was a shock.

00:30:28.040 okay i'll say i'll say it was a shock

00:30:31.540 now let's get real right proper hotel 23 dollar cocktails minimum you know i go

00:30:38.860 so i um i had i had cocktails we're gonna do this and the food okay okay because it's not

00:30:44.500 i mean tell them the bill well now now i sound because it's not so crazy because it's not so

00:30:49.320 crazy because really no one ate i had i split an imposto burger with my lover um but it really

00:30:56.140 wasn't a food thing people were earning. So cocktails alone, 12 people were looking at with

00:31:00.740 tip was like 550 bucks. I thought it was 599. I thought it pushed into six. No, no, no. It wasn't

00:31:07.640 699? 550, honey. Checked it this morning. So what did I say? I said so many things. No, no, no. But

00:31:12.800 it comes, it comes. I already decided to pay for it. I'll be honest. When it came, I went, I thought

00:31:16.660 it was going to be worse. I thought it was going to be a band. I thought, I thought it was going

00:31:20.520 to be worse. I thought maybe it was going to be worse. So I go, so I actually was like, I'm not

00:31:25.040 fucking kidding you i had two margs in me i go i wish it were higher okay i was fine i had two 0.63

00:31:30.060 margs i was sailing so i had the two margs in me i sign away my cousin's boyfriend who's very like 0.99

00:31:36.180 in tech and it's like oh you know he was like whoa whoa let me split it with you what you didn't tell 0.86

00:31:41.020 me this shit okay okay okay okay i can't believe you let this out okay this is huge my cousin's 0.98

00:31:46.440 boyfriend no sorry no that's my blood relative okay kevin my cousin's boyfriend who's fabulous 0.99

00:31:52.440 okay and he and i thought this was very this is like you know the right thing to do it's coming

00:31:55.900 to mind he goes he goes he was right here he had that for me he had the astra the the windbreaker

00:32:01.060 with the with the astra zeneca yeah yeah astra zeneca so i i don't even know what that is but

00:32:06.200 the word was right there yeah he had that it's medicine right he he goes he goes oh my god no

00:32:11.100 no let me let me help you let me split you i go it's my joy it's my joy to take you out it's my

00:32:15.820 joy to take my family memories out you said it weekly a couple of the older a couple of the

00:32:19.040 older aunts earlier what took out their cards i said and becky and becky you kidding me good get

00:32:23.240 out of here get out of here this is an insane story okay you never you you spoke of no offers

00:32:28.220 okay okay okay why did you hide that from me i don't know i don't think i was hiding it though

00:32:34.860 because the final issue here okay we're getting to the final issue so i go no no and again i mean

00:32:39.740 it in my heart no it's like i'm your lawyer i can't help you okay if you don't tell me the

00:32:45.340 entire truth okay okay so here's what happened so it's on me it's on me it's on me i've got the 0.86

00:32:50.900 bill here i'm signing and i'm kind of going i hope they're fucking seeing this okay so i 0.50

00:32:58.340 sign it's away of course tipping 20 percent even though there were issues okay yeah there were 0.54

00:33:04.980 issues you're always gonna get 20 things get loose around the bonfire yeah yeah having a great time

00:33:10.240 people start peeling off no one says anything so here's what i wanted so i was peeling off or was

00:33:17.400 it more like wild congratulations for your excellent show that night it was a beautiful

00:33:21.480 night i was trying no it was it was peeling off sounds cruel yeah what i just mean is that

00:33:24.940 here's what it is i thought i was happy to pay i really was but i wanted more recognition

00:33:32.000 for having paid so you told me i didn't want people to go oh my god how could we i just kind

00:33:38.380 No, you said.

00:33:39.380 I wanted kind of a this, like, you're kidding.

00:33:42.400 Thank you.

00:33:43.220 You know, I wanted a little, I wanted a little,

00:33:46.200 oh my God, but this is crazy.

00:33:47.580 This is a rooftop.

00:33:48.460 This is the San Francisco.

00:33:49.800 They rob you blind here.

00:33:51.000 I just wanted a little bit of.

00:33:53.660 And what did I say?

00:33:54.800 Or let's start with this.

00:33:56.440 What did you interpret that I said?

00:33:58.640 Huh?

00:33:59.720 I said a number of things, okay?

00:34:01.640 And I'm curious.

00:34:02.000 Because I texted you in the morning.

00:34:03.140 I wish I had my phone so I could bring up the thread.

00:34:04.760 I texted you, no acknowledgement for picking up the tab.

00:34:08.020 I could probably grab it.

00:34:08.980 Should I grab it?

00:34:09.400 It's right there.

00:34:09.880 Yeah, I got it.

00:34:10.320 All right, keep him entertained.

00:34:11.440 So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:12.940 I just want, because again,

00:34:15.980 I thought this was kind of a philosophical,

00:34:18.540 there's something under here, right?

00:34:20.320 Which is, of course, my own kind of archetype 0.80

00:34:23.520 of the cheap Jew, if I may. 0.85

00:34:26.240 Here, I want to share my gold. 1.00

00:34:28.400 You know, and it's like, no.

00:34:29.440 And I really did feel, I really, I wanted to pay.

00:34:32.180 And I didn't need,

00:34:33.120 I didn't need some crazy display of gratitude

00:34:36.160 that was above what the moment needed.

00:34:40.500 It was more my own,

00:34:43.120 what was I supposed to do?

00:34:43.880 Sign out?

00:34:44.820 Hey, hey, hey, enjoy.

00:34:46.300 I think I even did that.

00:34:46.960 Sorry, I was looking for it.

00:34:48.380 I was looking for it.

00:34:49.300 I'm like scrolling, scrolling,

00:34:50.500 a lot of chatter, right?

00:34:51.700 And I just like, I stopped

00:34:52.760 because I see, again,

00:34:53.940 I was happy to pay.

00:34:58.240 So you ready?

00:34:59.120 I texted my mother.

00:35:00.320 Helen can tell you.

00:35:01.080 I texted my mother, 2 a.m.,

00:35:03.040 a little tipsy off two margs.

00:35:04.380 I'm a lightweight.

00:35:04.860 and I said bought drinks for the whole family $550 happy to pay happy to give everyone a nice night

00:35:12.540 on the town and my mother responded like oh great how fun she's not like that whoa okay are you

00:35:17.840 ready she just was like that's great morning okay morning of right okay uh no one noticing me pick

00:35:24.900 up the bill and I'm I pause for when it's a new text right no one noticing and I won't say anything

00:35:30.700 offensive if it appears I don't think anything offensive no I know but no one I just wanted you

00:35:34.400 feel safe so no one noticing me pick up the bill is so funny i'm still obsessing like 559

00:35:41.680 and then me clarity at all costs i got a separate check

00:35:48.120 i guess no one else did and then i go unfortunately you were kind of hosting

00:35:59.760 And that really helps.

00:36:00.940 Okay, Kate Berlant, you're a class act.

00:36:03.480 Again, I was happy to pay.

00:36:05.660 I just wanted the recognition, ha.

00:36:08.560 I wanted, quote, no, really?

00:36:11.980 But Kate, ha, ha.

00:36:14.440 I am sweating because I'm so shy.

00:36:17.160 And I, to free you, said that actually wouldn't have been appropriate.

00:36:18.900 Yeah, that was cool.

00:36:19.820 For those people, I believe, and we'll get into that.

00:36:21.760 And then you go, so fun at the bonfire, you know, et cetera, okay?

00:36:25.340 And I'm not done.

00:36:26.460 I go, and others had drinks, you know?

00:36:28.820 okay oh because you're like we just ordered there was no names okay i remember you saying

00:36:33.420 no no because you go we just ordered burgers i go and others others had drinks and then and then

00:36:37.220 you go no no just now i got burgers oh tasty okay okay and i go i'm trying to explain why it would

00:36:42.700 have been inappropriate for everyone to pipe up about the check you said this yeah yeah the vibe

00:36:46.960 is it's your party and you just performed for hundreds okay and you totally totally okay

00:36:54.240 and you seem to be getting special treatment by the place because they gave us champagne yeah

00:37:01.260 okay so you're the god of the night right right so and then i go and if one person piped up

00:37:08.660 everyone else would have to so no one wants to implicate the group completely true one guy 0.97

00:37:13.700 then everyone else grumble has to rumble in so no one wants to fuck the rest of the group yeah 0.76

00:37:18.680 okay so everyone's silently right i go but you were kind of hosting a party okay and then i wrote 0.72

00:37:24.500 all caps who ate and i was like this is why i love you because we're getting into it i feel so

00:37:30.860 like we're yeah we're doing a forensic analysis of what happened and at the end of it i'm gonna

00:37:34.700 have the truth and i have to say that even right now i can feel we'll keep going but i go they

00:37:39.460 drove there and valet ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding huge i go acknowledgement

00:37:45.240 I'm saying this like to free you

00:37:46.740 because it's like acknowledgement by them, right?

00:37:48.780 I go, acknowledgement would have been lame.

00:37:50.520 Yeah, I see that.

00:37:52.260 Can I say names?

00:37:53.640 Yeah, you can. 0.81

00:37:54.780 Leo got a mane and Mari got fries.

00:37:59.160 That's it.

00:38:00.180 Very little food.

00:38:01.280 I said that, yeah.

00:38:02.400 I go, Leo got pork belly skewers.

00:38:04.540 the fact i noticed new and corrected

00:38:16.680 i also also want to unpack something i said leo got a mane

00:38:22.680 the pork belly skewers were not a mane i was trying to clarity clarity and there was no sign

00:38:33.160 They were four small skewers, okay, on a small plate.

00:38:37.640 Okay, and I go, multiple rounds of drinks?

00:38:39.400 Like, questioning, because it was pretty, yeah, exactly.

00:38:41.280 It was the drinks.

00:38:41.920 It was the expensive drinks.

00:38:43.300 And then I go, you hosted a 12-person party, and it cost you $600.

00:38:48.200 And Kate, LOL, this rules, okay?

00:38:51.920 Me, haha, Kate, I love you.

00:38:54.120 Hahaha, okay?

00:38:55.320 Yeah, okay.

00:38:55.920 You free me.

00:39:03.160 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:39:09.800 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:39:14.980 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:39:19.000 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:39:20.340 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:39:23.960 No, I am not your guru.

00:39:27.740 And back then, I lied to my parents.

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00:39:32.400 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:39:35.620 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

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00:39:41.100 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.

00:39:44.440 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

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00:39:49.040 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92

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00:42:41.320 I don't like to be wrong or to be in the wrong, okay?

00:42:45.940 If I am, I admit, okay?

00:42:49.780 If I wasn't in the wrong and I'm being misunderstood,

00:42:51.760 I like to make it dead fucking clear I wasn't.

00:42:54.080 You know what I mean? 0.84

00:42:54.560 Yeah.

00:42:55.460 But in the act of making it dead fucking clear, 0.86

00:42:57.300 I wasn't. 0.64

00:42:57.800 I don't like to make any new transgressions

00:43:00.240 that could cause the tally to find its way.

00:43:04.620 You understand, right?

00:43:06.680 The cover up worse than the crime sort of thing, right?

00:43:10.200 So I'm in the lounge

00:43:12.720 and I'm still wondering if I'm bulletproof on this story.

00:43:15.480 I am wondering.

00:43:16.040 I think I'm bulletproof, all right?

00:43:17.340 So you take it in.

00:43:18.460 Okay.

00:43:19.340 Coffee machine in the Delta Lounge.

00:43:21.240 It will make anything you want by the press of a button, okay?

00:43:24.820 It might not be good, but I'll give it to you.

00:43:27.180 It's not going to be a Breville Bambino, I'll tell you that much.

00:43:31.260 Still, no sponsorships.

00:43:33.040 So, I go up.

00:43:34.600 I take a mug.

00:43:35.620 Now, here's the thing.

00:43:37.400 Two machines, okay?

00:43:39.040 Okay, I go up, line behind this guy.

00:43:40.840 This one's being serviced.

00:43:41.820 This one's being serviced.

00:43:42.680 The guy steps away from being serviced.

00:43:44.120 Now there's a free machine, and there's a line here behind one.

00:43:46.860 So, the guy who's servicing it says, you know,

00:43:49.120 man, there's a free machine, okay?

00:43:50.920 Yeah.

00:43:51.080 So I, with my mug, step towards the free machine as I've been asking.

00:43:55.160 Now, at that moment, a man appears from out of nowhere, okay?

00:43:58.240 Okay, no mug, all right?

00:44:00.540 All right, just, okay, it comes up.

00:44:02.260 And now, so he's coming straight at it.

00:44:04.700 No.

00:44:04.920 I'm some diagonal interloper in his mind, okay?

00:44:09.040 Okay?

00:44:10.380 Meanwhile, I'm just doing as I was told.

00:44:12.560 And I've got a mug, so I've clearly been there, okay?

00:44:14.420 So there's a moment.

00:44:15.080 Now, I hesitate, even though I'm right.

00:44:17.000 I hesitate because… 1.00

00:44:18.620 Female labor, yeah. 1.00

00:44:19.680 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:19.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:21.080 So he genially, okay, allows me to do what I was right to do in the first place, okay?

00:44:29.080 And I accept it.

00:44:30.300 I let him play his chivalry game.

00:44:32.600 So, okay, but I'm hoping that he saw what actually happened here.

00:44:36.280 I step up.

00:44:37.360 I know the machine pretty well.

00:44:39.120 I put down the thing.

00:44:40.420 I press cappuccino, okay?

00:44:42.060 Just stay with me, all right?

00:44:44.320 Cappuccino, okay?

00:44:45.140 processing processing brewing brewing there's a little man in there making it up real fresh

00:44:53.120 the elves are working the elves are working and then yeah yeah comes into thing great right as

00:44:58.380 now the screen comes back to its thing i hit espresso because i want an extra shot in there

00:45:02.160 okay yeah totally so i just boom espresso okay and then i look at my phone texting kate probably

00:45:07.820 with the bill all right and it's processing it's going slow i mean it's not even at the point where

00:45:12.500 it's pouring it oh boy so what do i hear ma'am when you're done on your phone i'd like to get

00:45:19.160 my coffee wow now i gotta say it felt good to know how right i was yeah yeah and i had to stay calm 0.73

00:45:31.220 you know what i mean and because when you're fucking right you're right yeah and so i just 0.51

00:45:36.560 said, uh, it's brewing. Okay. Oh, oh, it's not done yet. Sorry. Okay. Then began sort of a bunch 0.94

00:45:42.420 of people piping in and need the extra dose in the morning. Okay. And then he, he desperate,

00:45:47.800 desperate to backpedal, tried to a little, a touch of cinnamon perhaps, you know? Oh no.

00:45:53.440 That's a little story. It was wild. And then I sat down, I sat down and I texted the entire thing

00:46:00.700 you did anyone get fucked okay trying to get merch tonight yeah okay so which i mean the merch 0.98

00:46:09.100 company bent us over a chaise lounge and fucked us okay we got i mean and you know what it is 0.99

00:46:17.220 it's misogyny it always yeah because the merch company went you girls the merch company goes 0.99

00:46:22.280 girls relax no one's gonna be buying your t-shirts what are you a live podcast 1.00

00:46:26.280 A couple of senile hags with a microphone. 1.00

00:46:30.360 It is literally misogyny. 0.99

00:46:32.820 We arrived at a venue, there's four water bottles.

00:46:35.680 I mean, four water bottles, are you kidding?

00:46:37.680 Who can that even, you know, sustain?

00:46:39.640 Well, I'll say, when we were in Portland,

00:46:42.340 we arrived first night of the tour.

00:46:44.120 First night, this is the big discovery.

00:46:44.680 And we were like, you know, it's fun,

00:46:46.200 we'll wear the merch on stage.

00:46:47.260 That's really fun.

00:46:47.860 Then we don't have to worry about what to wear every night.

00:46:50.020 So I go, okay, can we get two smalls to wear on stage?

00:46:53.340 And we find out.

00:46:54.320 they go well then there'll be no more right okay we're like pardon so what we realized was so there

00:47:02.860 were two smalls total i believe actually no i think i've got this wrong you know why it was one

00:47:09.680 it was okay it was one small of the red red red red because you're ready because this was the

00:47:14.440 the image we had that we realized a pair of friends they get to the venue early okay yeah

00:47:19.980 okay they get in line before anybody before anybody okay they go we're gonna get there so

00:47:24.140 early we don't even care okay and they get there and then they wait and they're at the front of

00:47:27.260 line they're front of line and they see all the stuff and they go up and they go okay and they go

00:47:30.180 we'll take two red christmas hoodies two red christmas hoodies and smalls thank you

00:47:36.100 sorry we can't accommodate you yeah first in line no there's no they had so yeah so so these

00:47:43.800 frankly these dudes who run the merch company and i remember in portland we were like oh no

00:47:49.060 that's so few

00:47:49.680 and the merch person goes

00:47:50.620 it's Portland

00:47:51.300 you're going to be fine 1.00

00:47:52.080 really bitch 1.00

00:47:52.920 because we sold out 1.00

00:47:53.760 so anyway

00:47:56.500 so just

00:47:56.880 so the merch store is live

00:47:58.380 everything that you want

00:47:59.120 online is live

00:48:00.140 online is live

00:48:01.380 do you hear this

00:48:02.020 online is live

00:48:02.920 now did any

00:48:03.720 so did anyone go up there

00:48:04.840 and go there's one left

00:48:05.680 there's one left

00:48:06.600 yeah

00:48:07.220 yeah see yeah

00:48:09.000 yeah yeah

00:48:09.560 it's live

00:48:10.160 more of you should be sharing

00:48:11.300 yeah

00:48:11.580 we sent a lot of emails this week

00:48:14.280 and actually

00:48:15.560 there was a

00:48:16.580 it was interesting

00:48:17.800 I wonder what people 0.92

00:48:18.820 would suspect and if this is different than what they would expect because i had to be a real hog

00:48:22.540 on these emails yeah i i was mad thank you because kate was a little checked out initially you know

00:48:28.240 she was just like where do we sign you know and i was that's why i need a lawyer to help me okay

00:48:33.760 because i'm just in my body i can't and i was like let me check and i you know the you know

00:48:39.240 this is what i animate around kate it's not who i am but around kate you know it bucks within me

00:48:44.100 right yeah and so suddenly i'm again i go let me see the projections okay and the projections are

00:48:50.040 six emails up and i said i didn't say i was like god you know what i mean but anyway the fact i'm

00:48:53.780 asking about him is something so i look at the projections i go i go okay why is it that if we

00:48:57.300 sell more we make less right why is the number that we make at the end less and that's when the

00:49:04.700 entire group goes um fesses up to the fact that that number was in parentheses do you understand

00:49:12.820 I still don't follow

00:49:13.600 Accountants may know

00:49:14.080 Accountants may know

00:49:14.920 What does it mean

00:49:15.460 If number's in parentheses

00:49:16.380 How the hell

00:49:18.400 What 0.89

00:49:18.880 Where did you learn that

00:49:21.760 Ready to go guys

00:49:22.720 They were like

00:49:23.240 There should be a book

00:49:24.100 There should be a book

00:49:25.000 Called

00:49:25.820 You gotta know this

00:49:28.040 And every page

00:49:30.480 And by the way

00:49:31.100 It's a big book

00:49:31.660 But just stuff like that

00:49:32.960 You gotta know this

00:49:33.940 Because I've

00:49:35.180 Where

00:49:37.900 And this is

00:49:38.900 I mean

00:49:39.240 That 1.00

00:49:40.260 Oh fuck 1.00

00:49:40.900 I'm doing it in 1.00

00:49:41.460 Lawyer stuff

00:49:42.620 Oh, make sure you don't.

00:49:43.960 I mean, people, I mean, I can't even imagine.

00:49:46.160 You know, God forbid you buy a house one day.

00:49:48.800 People, oh yeah, because the mortgage blow.

00:49:50.520 I imagine.

00:49:51.080 What?

00:49:51.920 Where did you?

00:49:52.620 And I'm like, is it because everyone has like a financial dad?

00:49:56.580 You know, people have like, there's like a patriarchal, like, let me see.

00:50:00.360 Let me cook the books for you, sweetheart, or something.

00:50:02.280 Like, but how do you know?

00:50:03.640 Where did you?

00:50:04.180 Yeah, you got to know this.

00:50:05.280 I have sort of a financial dad.

00:50:07.040 He's not like confused by the numbers and stuff like that.

00:50:09.620 You don't always want to go running to daddy.

00:50:11.300 You know what I mean?

00:50:11.680 Well, I would be running to daddy.

00:50:13.280 Yeah, you love that.

00:50:14.220 But I think buy the book

00:50:15.400 and just every page, simple stuff.

00:50:17.060 Like, what's something else?

00:50:17.940 Like, um...

00:50:19.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:19.640 Change your tire.

00:50:20.500 No, but they have those books.

00:50:21.520 Oil change once a year.

00:50:22.840 No, no, no.

00:50:23.180 What?

00:50:24.480 That the book can't...

00:50:25.540 See, but that the book can't save you, Kate,

00:50:27.700 because you know that you're supposed to get

00:50:28.860 the oil change once a year

00:50:29.820 and we're not doing it.

00:50:30.260 Your windshield wiper fluid will run out.

00:50:32.480 It's not never ending.

00:50:34.060 That's a joke.

00:50:35.000 I mean, only if you use it.

00:50:36.500 Well, people will know.

00:50:37.420 By the way, this actually is so sweet

00:50:38.860 because I was talking about on the podcast

00:50:40.580 because for months I would go,

00:50:42.040 I'm not feeling it.

00:50:43.340 Yeah.

00:50:43.800 The company should know better.

00:50:45.360 Somebody, and I, by the way,

00:50:46.660 I went to three gas stations.

00:50:47.840 Oh, can you guys fill up my windshield wiper?

00:50:49.680 No, get out of here.

00:50:50.500 We don't want your business, okay?

00:50:53.200 Somebody wrote into the Pooh email

00:50:54.720 and was like, tell Kate to go to Valvoline or whatever.

00:50:57.880 Oh yeah, Valvoline, Valvoline.

00:50:58.780 So we're really loving though.

00:50:59.840 I was like, look at me.

00:51:01.120 I felt so held.

00:51:01.780 Did you see me?

00:51:02.800 Did you see me?

00:51:03.680 I went, oh yeah, Valvoline, Valvoline.

00:51:06.040 Okay, I was pumped up.

00:51:07.680 I don't even know if that's right.

00:51:08.600 It sounds wrong now.

00:51:09.240 By the way, I had a religious experience.

00:51:10.400 I went to Jiffy Lube instead

00:51:12.560 Oh right

00:51:13.300 Talk about community

00:51:14.060 I roll in

00:51:14.800 This guy

00:51:15.300 And this was actually

00:51:16.380 This was really philosophical

00:51:17.420 Because I rolled in

00:51:18.500 And I thought

00:51:19.440 He's annoyed

00:51:20.100 He just kind of looked

00:51:20.900 I was like

00:51:21.240 Oh he's having

00:51:21.720 I'm like 0.99

00:51:22.100 Fucking like 0.98

00:51:23.020 I was like 0.99

00:51:23.500 Oh I just want windshield

00:51:24.260 He seemed kind of

00:51:25.060 Turned out to be

00:51:27.360 One of the most saintly

00:51:28.840 I wanted to go 0.99

00:51:29.460 Give me your mother's number

00:51:30.680 Yeah

00:51:31.060 I'm calling her

00:51:32.040 He fills up

00:51:32.920 I go

00:51:33.240 Oh what I owe you

00:51:34.020 He goes

00:51:34.360 Don't worry about it

00:51:34.940 I go

00:51:35.100 Please

00:51:35.380 Don't worry about what?

00:51:37.040 Like don't worry about

00:51:37.680 Painting

00:51:37.940 So I pull out

00:51:39.080 A five

00:51:39.740 Yeah

00:51:40.240 I've had a good year

00:51:40.900 And I go

00:51:42.040 Well please

00:51:43.000 Like just

00:51:43.800 You know

00:51:44.380 This is just for your trouble

00:51:45.480 And he

00:51:45.860 Won't take it

00:51:47.060 And I'm not talking about

00:51:47.780 He won't take it

00:51:48.480 He'll take it

00:51:49.020 He wouldn't take it

00:51:50.220 No 1.00

00:51:50.380 He wouldn't take it from a woman 1.00

00:51:52.680 Oh wow 1.00

00:51:53.900 Who needed her windshield wiper fluid 1.00

00:51:55.320 And I went 0.98

00:51:55.880 There's

00:51:56.920 Now that's a man 0.99

00:51:57.740 No yeah

00:51:58.520 I truly

00:51:59.200 I was like

00:51:59.840 Thank God

00:52:00.340 Okay this is actually very cute

00:52:04.280 How did you two meet

00:52:06.100 And what were your first impressions of each other

00:52:09.200 okay that is cute okay this is huge let me think so i believe we met we met new york city on the

00:52:17.460 yeah absolutely okay can you imagine 1962 no we did we clocked each other because this was a time

00:52:24.880 we've discussed this but that when comedy wasn't for hot people yeah right yeah and and so there's

00:52:31.600 a couple of trolls going you know i got a joke going yeah we're interested in jokes you know

00:52:36.700 what i mean we like yeah like some of us still interested in jokes you know this sort of thing 0.98

00:52:40.740 and okay it wasn't wasn't like how can i get fucked let me go oh my god absolutely not to 0.75

00:52:45.360 an open mic no this was like a perverse interest no one liked that we wanted to do this yeah yeah 0.88

00:52:51.080 exactly and we saw each other across the way at pianos yeah i believe it was at pianos right

00:52:55.920 the bar pianos and we were sitting across each other this came to me recently we're sitting

00:53:00.360 across from each other as for picnic table bar but i remember meeting you i thought that we met

00:53:04.360 in the street really my memory my first memory of you is being cigarettes out on Ludlow burning

00:53:10.220 them down and I was like oh it's Jacqueline Novak because I had seen a video of you on the on

00:53:14.960 YouTube that made me laugh I saw a video of you destroying a heckler yeah and I wrote destroy

00:53:21.260 that was just all you know now now it's like no and I was doing it even at the time to be like

00:53:26.560 I'm doing the thing yeah but I'm gonna do it my way you know no but I saw a video of yours and I

00:53:30.960 I was like, I like her.

00:53:33.340 She's funny.

00:53:34.240 And then I saw you on the street.

00:53:35.960 I thought it was on the street outside of Piano's.

00:53:37.840 Well, it might have been because I move in and out of there.

00:53:39.660 But what I remember is this moment where I think I had ordered a burger and it came.

00:53:47.900 And there was a third, there was another, okay? 0.91

00:53:50.640 A third woman, okay?

00:53:51.980 I don't remember. 0.99

00:53:52.500 And I believe she took the tomato off my plate and ate it, okay?

00:53:57.200 And I believe that me and Kate looked at each other.

00:54:00.700 okay like okay and looked at each other like okay and we're like and then but we you know

00:54:08.720 rode it we fawned I don't know okay but after the person was gone I remember being like Kate

00:54:14.120 and it was I just I mean you don't forget the first time Kate you know crosses her eyes at you

00:54:17.520 okay but she it's all I've got like she's like I mean yeah I was like completely weird I'm like

00:54:22.500 whoa that's like nothing you do you know just like it was like I was like crazy like I just

00:54:27.000 I was like,

00:54:27.620 I was like, 0.99

00:54:30.040 holy shit, 0.96

00:54:30.700 I've never seen anyone's face 0.99

00:54:31.700 move that fast.

00:54:33.220 And with that precision,

00:54:34.580 like the isolations

00:54:35.760 that you were capable of

00:54:37.720 just quick and communicating

00:54:38.780 emotional truths

00:54:39.900 as we were doing

00:54:41.060 absolutely just completely

00:54:42.240 like you do not take a tomato

00:54:43.400 off someone's plate.

00:54:44.000 There was a single tomato there

00:54:44.940 and even if there had been

00:54:45.900 six tomatoes there

00:54:46.580 it would have been

00:54:46.840 completely ridiculous. 0.59

00:54:48.500 And then it was just, 0.87

00:54:49.500 then we were just,

00:54:50.320 you know,

00:54:51.420 I don't know,

00:54:51.980 we were the only ones of us

00:54:53.440 kind of.

00:54:53.860 Yeah, well that's the truth.

00:54:55.220 And I remember

00:54:55.940 I had a

00:54:56.500 I had a

00:54:57.160 I had my own show

00:54:58.040 my own open mic

00:54:58.760 down the street

00:54:59.260 at the cake shop

00:54:59.980 now gone

00:55:00.600 on the lawyer's side

00:55:01.920 Crime and Punishment

00:55:02.700 it's called Crime and Punishment

00:55:03.580 with Kate Merlant

00:55:04.340 and I was like

00:55:06.800 please come do my show

00:55:08.100 absolutely whenever you want

00:55:09.100 you started coming

00:55:10.600 and

00:55:10.900 and then

00:55:11.320 and then it just

00:55:12.020 yeah remember

00:55:12.520 yeah there would be this

00:55:13.520 I feel like I remember

00:55:14.600 going up to you

00:55:15.160 and going

00:55:15.440 before going on stage

00:55:16.520 going I have nothing

00:55:17.120 I have nothing

00:55:17.660 I do remember you doing that

00:55:18.740 you was going to be

00:55:19.220 you got me

00:55:19.560 I got nothing

00:55:20.860 I got nothing

00:55:21.540 it became like a fetishistic thing

00:55:23.720 where I couldn't go on stage

00:55:24.740 without believing I had nothing.

00:55:26.460 And then remember what,

00:55:27.280 then I would text,

00:55:28.200 I would be like,

00:55:29.040 Jacqueline,

00:55:29.580 like about to go doing shows.

00:55:31.360 This is huge.

00:55:32.740 I'd be texting Jacqueline,

00:55:33.700 you know,

00:55:33.920 from the road.

00:55:34.420 I go,

00:55:34.920 I have nothing.

00:55:35.840 You texted me,

00:55:37.480 just go up there 1.00

00:55:38.300 and do your bullshit. 1.00

00:55:39.260 And it literally freed me completely. 1.00

00:55:41.380 Just do your usual bullshit. 1.00

00:55:42.640 And I knew it would free her. 1.00

00:55:43.960 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:44.900 Because her bullshit is a dream, right? 1.00

00:55:48.680 No, stop. 1.00

00:55:49.280 But no,

00:55:49.540 but I was just like. 0.91

00:55:50.240 And it's not bullshit, 0.97

00:55:51.080 but I knew it would. 0.96

00:55:52.680 No, 1.00

00:55:53.160 reducing me to bullshit, 0.99

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 16, 2024

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