Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - River Flowing Backwards

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00:02:39.300 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.780 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.900 And this is Poogh, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:53.800 Today's topic, loosely speaking, daily dozen, rinse your teeth, cribs and cots.

00:03:04.700 It's amazing because laughing because the grumpiness.

00:03:08.740 So the hags know we've almost canceled recording today like twice because it was technical difficulties and hell.

00:03:15.180 And I'm really proud of us for getting here.

00:03:17.120 I can't believe it because.

00:03:18.600 what is it why when technology when technology fails the problem when it's truly it and not

00:03:27.060 and not you right and it's insurmountable it just feels like yeah it feels it I mean there's a lot

00:03:35.220 there's a lot going on I just I guess I just wonder on a primal level uh why like the cords

00:03:42.520 well just just why um what in the evolutionary everything's evolutionary you know theory right

00:03:52.340 but like okay which thing is it like i feel like it feels like it must feel like your early man

00:03:59.660 and the river's flowing backwards or something or like you're putting your hand in the water and it

00:04:07.100 won't get wet it won't get wet yeah yeah totally and you're like what a nightmare and they're like

00:04:12.280 you must not be putting your hand in the water no i am well look yeah i see my hand under the

00:04:16.560 water oh my god well by the way it's so exciting because since we've recorded we saw each other

00:04:22.320 physically oh my god unbelievable and um i've well i yeah i think i feel when we record a couple

00:04:31.260 weeks ago i've like lived a lifetime aged yeah so shockingly where i have to say i feel like i

00:04:36.580 always have like i think i've had you know pretty healthy self-image whatever yeah it happened so

00:04:42.260 fast or suddenly I'm like the face where I was texting. I was like, I have cortisol face. It's

00:04:47.640 like Instagram consciousness where like you see a post once you go cortisol face and it gets locked

00:04:52.740 in there and you develop it just having seen the words, not knowing what it is. Completely. And I

00:04:56.460 was like, do you mean corticosteroids or whatever, which is another thing I don't know about.

00:05:01.080 Sheer stress. I mean, no reason to hold back from saying it because the hags have been so, 1.00

00:05:06.680 I mean, just worst two weeks of my life, Alzheimer's hell wise. Yeah. Finally climbing 0.99

00:05:11.540 out kind of sending all the love to everyone dealing with the fucking hell that it is tried 0.93

00:05:18.120 to join or i'll figure it out but i went to like a like a like a zoom support group this morning 0.89

00:05:23.380 hated it yeah yeah how bad was it because it wasn't like like and god bless everyone of course 0.71

00:05:31.040 and i still want to do it and i'm and i'm going to i'm gonna look around i'm gonna find the right

00:05:35.840 group yeah to say I hated it is too strong no but I know the spirit I know the spirit it's you

00:05:41.500 didn't say I hated every single one of them and I love everyone that's in there I just didn't

00:05:46.280 it was and it was a very it just wasn't and this is fine you go to a few you find the one that's

00:05:51.240 right but I was like well this one ain't it just any part of you go and I know it doesn't but

00:05:56.740 like when things are wrong sort of go or is this the medicine I need is this the exact group I

00:06:02.760 well of course because I was like my issue by the way I want to be clear not the people it's

00:06:07.580 like the organization tactics which is like like I just you said it was lawless earlier it was

00:06:13.100 lawless and I need more I like the thing of like there's a speaker everyone gets three minutes

00:06:18.440 you're commenting on the whatever the you know organization around a theme or around somebody's

00:06:24.380 like the kind of like anyone talk when they want thing that's what it was yeah and I was like was

00:06:31.420 the leader was and then again i'm not going to say any revealing details but of course

00:06:35.420 one person god bless is talking about something that has nothing to do with alzheimer's for like

00:06:40.760 you know what i mean like it just gets yeah just naturally i don't blame anyone just like

00:06:45.320 the conversation just goes and then suddenly you're talking about like you know someone's

00:06:49.880 rancher's husband's it's funny i'm trying to not say anything details so i'm going what's

00:06:54.440 something that no one said uh someone talking about a rancher's husband that almost sounds

00:06:58.160 more emotional it's like no someone's talking about like which kind of like dish drying rack

00:07:01.700 to buy it's like well that one's a little bit and i tried to return it and i'm like can we get

00:07:05.680 back on course because i'm drowning and i need the solidarity um did anyone else now buddhism

00:07:13.240 iv drip needed directly so many times last couple weeks it's like okay i don't know buddhism like

00:07:19.400 and it does it does help if only i were not attached kind of yeah yeah or just like okay

00:07:23.580 just have to fully surrender just walk arms open into the ocean of of life and there is the thing

00:07:30.040 i'll say for anyone dealing with grief or the sick and the dying it's like the thing of um

00:07:37.280 you have to go into it well it's the buddhist principle that i do like which is like avoiding

00:07:42.120 it or avoiding it trying not to look at it whatever is not a fear of death it's actually

00:07:47.340 a fear of life like fear of life is what keeps us from actually it's like that is what life is

00:07:52.440 right yeah because there is no death here like not confronting the the sick or or avoiding the

00:08:00.380 right like they're alive like if you're dying you're alive dying is something living is part

00:08:05.360 of life totally i mean you know right i mean it's like yeah i think but yeah yeah yeah or like the

00:08:11.660 chain it's like particularly with alzheimer's there's no it's like utter groundlessness because

00:08:16.480 everything changes and suddenly the most horrible thing can happen and the thing that was a week ago

00:08:20.140 seems like everything was actually fine a week ago and then and it only gets worse and you just

00:08:23.620 don't know what's coming and so it's like looking at it directly as difficult to difficult as it is

00:08:29.260 to look at it directly is almost the only medicine it's the Jungian thing that I've said of like 0.94

00:08:33.240 reality is medicinal but that's really been my like fucking mantra lately because I'm like yeah 0.58

00:08:37.600 just like the reality that is where like just be in the reality of it and that actually weirdly 0.94

00:08:42.880 provides relief more anxiety comes from like I can't do it I don't want to look at it oh god

00:08:47.400 it's like just be in the

00:08:49.460 reality because that shoe is slipping away

00:08:52.300 I hate being in anything

00:08:53.860 I mean I just

00:08:55.560 yeah like I'm always

00:08:58.060 trying to avoid

00:08:59.720 everything

00:09:03.440 I mean like I think

00:09:04.680 while then plowing forward in other ways

00:09:07.680 you know to make up for

00:09:08.960 the constant instinct to avoid

00:09:11.820 all things I don't know

00:09:13.120 it's um

00:09:13.920 yeah being in the

00:09:17.340 stay staying and i have to of course i've been like well meditation practice if i just

00:09:21.900 but that yeah that could help i guess nothing helps really but just time i don't know but um

00:09:31.720 yeah so sorry for the rerun folks i simply couldn't get on and record poog

00:09:37.140 due to overwhelming distress oh sorry for the rerun yeah yeah yeah um but we're back

00:09:43.440 huge and by the way back and this is the other thing about grief and death and dying and the

00:09:47.620 waves of it all it's unbelievable you hit your lowest low a couple days later you're laughing

00:09:52.360 right so i'm like today i was like i actually can't wait to record poog today and we have

00:09:57.320 massive huge poog update that i almost don't well jack then i'll let you say it's not i i but i want

00:10:05.760 to be clear i make no stances about my life like nothing's permanent necessarily but i have spent

00:10:11.460 two and a half weeks or three weeks at this point. Whole foods plant-based. Say the word.

00:10:17.920 Oh, and no oil. Say the word. Vegan. Jacqueline Novak has committed. No, I know plant-based

00:10:25.440 whole foods. Sure. But the word, the scare word. Well, yeah, the scare word. Sure. Sure. But I'm

00:10:30.660 not leading. Jacqueline Novak. But I'm excited for you. I think this is the window. This is

00:10:34.960 the window to health. Yeah. I mean, hey, I'm mostly plant-based. I guess I'm more Mediterranean. I

00:10:39.540 don't have any actual restrictions and i'll eat whatever i want so to speak but most days of the

00:10:43.860 week i am plant-based and my partner's vegan yeah most days of the week oh yeah no dairy most days

00:10:50.460 of the week yeah but eggs i do do eggs right a lot right so i don't do dairy no i'm just look

00:10:57.480 i'm not coming for your your diet and i also just um no but i i could literally like i'm so excited

00:11:05.460 us because this is what's fun grains jacqueline sending me photos of buckwheat groats and oats

00:11:10.740 and like i'm just like this is fun well yeah and this and i and i told jacqueline the other night

00:11:15.800 yeah opening up to a whole new market vegan poo well vegan well you know what i heard this so

00:11:22.000 it's more and i you like the triggering word of what you will or what me we will i don't know okay

00:11:30.500 I mean, I don't know.

00:11:32.520 Unbelievable.

00:11:33.320 I really just don't know.

00:11:34.380 I make no claims about anything.

00:11:37.720 But yeah, the last couple of weeks, I've been exploring a path.

00:11:41.800 Any differences in how you feel?

00:11:42.800 I'm actually trying to be a nutritarian.

00:11:45.960 Oh, see, this is where I get sexy. 0.78

00:11:48.140 Well, because nutrients. 0.90

00:11:49.140 Nutrients, Kate. 0.91

00:11:49.860 Go for the nutrients.

00:11:51.100 Okay, this is so it's not, I just.

00:11:52.580 Health.

00:11:53.120 It's not about anything.

00:11:55.540 Okay, okay.

00:11:56.800 I'm like tired because I was up late and woke up.

00:12:00.500 early uh and okay let me just give it like clarify a little bit so I've gone down a rabbit hole okay

00:12:10.340 and I've been enlightened to a certain series of you know documentaries websites whatever where I

00:12:18.220 have a new set of gurus okay a new set of names Dr. Michael Greger Dr. I subscribed yesterday to

00:12:25.880 T. Caldwell Esselstyn, his son, Rip Esselstyn, okay?

00:12:31.760 Rip?

00:12:32.580 Yeah, that's his son.

00:12:35.440 Barbara and Anne, I think, are the sister and the mother.

00:12:39.540 So Caldwell Esselstyn and then T. Colin Campbell, okay?

00:12:42.700 I wrote the China study back in, I forget, 96 or whatever.

00:12:46.880 Okay, huge. 1.00

00:12:48.100 Look at her with her hibiscus tea.

00:12:49.660 So this is exciting, Jacqueline.

00:12:51.240 So by the way, I love hibiscus.

00:12:53.640 Hibiscus.

00:12:54.860 No, I pronounce it hibiscus.

00:12:56.840 What?

00:12:57.220 And you pronounce it hibiscus.

00:12:59.040 Hibiscus?

00:12:59.960 Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't know.

00:13:02.100 Hibiscus.

00:13:02.300 I just feel the need to call out because I feel like, I always feel like it's violent

00:13:07.360 You're probably saying, I have weird pronunciation stuff.

00:13:09.760 to just continually pronounce something differently than someone else and not acknowledge it.

00:13:15.080 Yeah, totally.

00:13:15.340 It's like, so I feel aggressive every time.

00:13:16.660 I'm like, no, the thing I love about hibiscus, okay?

00:13:19.840 Hibiscus, it's definitely, it's probably hibiscus.

00:13:21.960 I'm saying it, strange.

00:13:22.980 I don't know

00:13:23.880 but

00:13:25.420 so

00:13:26.680 okay

00:13:27.140 okay let me wake up

00:13:28.960 she's up

00:13:29.840 I'm getting really excited

00:13:32.340 about the hibiscus

00:13:33.100 okay

00:13:33.640 a huge part of my life now

00:13:34.900 easels

00:13:35.420 okay

00:13:35.840 I'm back on

00:13:36.580 Painter's easels

00:13:37.620 I didn't know you were ever

00:13:39.480 on easels

00:13:40.020 I have my comedy

00:13:41.600 on a

00:13:42.080 massive canvas

00:13:43.400 okay

00:13:43.900 which I

00:13:44.380 and I sat in front of it

00:13:45.640 on a stool

00:13:46.640 okay at one point in my life

00:13:48.040 different points in my life

00:13:48.840 writing

00:13:49.060 like 0.99

00:13:50.000 laying shit out 0.99

00:13:51.200 contemplating 0.99

00:13:52.100 but in the artist's posture do you see it changes everything whoa i didn't know this

00:13:59.160 jacqueline you used to put your stand-up on an easel and sit in front of it on a stool

00:14:02.800 this is the thing that it fell apart like like quickly like you know but at different times i've

00:14:08.960 i do these things like this right so now i'm i'm in a mania okay i'm gonna i'm in easel mania

00:14:15.360 diy easel build my own easel wall easel okay okay whatever you know the cheap easel okay 0.94

00:14:20.380 fuck it spend it on the easel because the easel is going to pay off in the end 0.95

00:14:23.640 but i am getting back into the stool posture okay sitting upright on a stool and doing creative work 0.99

00:14:31.720 and feeling like an artist of another time anyway that's what that's what i yearn for so whatever

00:14:38.020 that all right take it back i want to get i have so much i know she's learned so much so much has

00:14:43.720 happened in two weeks all right so it all begins with dr michael greger okay and his website

00:14:49.760 nutritionfacts.org and Dr. Michael Greger and by the way I because I've now looked him up because

00:14:55.760 of you he's the he's the guy who's writing these books how not to die how not to age how not to

00:15:00.680 diet yeah yeah and and I think in two years how not to hurt oh it's coming and he specifies that

00:15:08.840 he's not saying you know how to not die you're gonna die but hey maybe you don't want to die

00:15:15.560 this way sure this way or this way you know with a long chronic illness starting at whatever you

00:15:21.220 know what i mean i would love to beat it by the way i'm i told you all the stuff i'm going through

00:15:25.620 yeah getting my will in order yeah death with dignity california never leave i don't know

00:15:30.780 where it's legal should i mean i know california portland ignoring in my will now hey if i get

00:15:37.040 a certain degenerative disease give me the pills i beg of you as soon as xyz i get i have to look

00:15:44.440 into it i guess yeah what the xyz are because it's difficult if people have cognitive decline

00:15:48.980 then they can no longer make those decisions but i i'm i'm looking into it and it's legally

00:15:54.500 it's kind of tricky if people are scared to do with people who have cognitive stuff but

00:16:00.100 because what if what if they what if the neurons re re fire and wire or something no i just think

00:16:07.180 it's more that to do it because to do it you have to talk to the doctor they give you you get the

00:16:12.060 prescription for the pills i believe that you know take you out and then it's it's very litigious the

00:16:17.900 way they administer you have to say oh you you're aware you take these you're gonna die there's no

00:16:22.360 doing it for your family member no you can't do it for family right right right you're saying

00:16:26.180 what's legal in california is doctor help me what's legal in california is i'm terminally ill

00:16:31.940 xyz you have to prove it whatever you get the prescription for the pills and then you get them

00:16:37.380 and then they give and they say you have to do this thing like so you're aware that if you take

00:16:40.860 because you're going to die

00:16:41.380 and you say yes 0.89

00:16:41.960 and then you take them.

00:16:43.680 So, right. 1.00

00:16:44.000 It's fucking rules. 0.99

00:16:44.860 So, if you're, 0.99

00:16:45.660 if what you're upset about,

00:16:47.900 if what you're,

00:16:48.920 the reason you want to go

00:16:49.780 is because of cognitive decline

00:16:51.180 and you're trying to argue

00:16:52.300 for how cognitively declined you are

00:16:54.700 to this doctor,

00:16:55.640 they're saying,

00:16:56.260 well, therefore,

00:16:56.660 how can I trust you

00:16:57.960 to be making this decision?

00:16:59.060 Right.

00:16:59.340 Well, as soon as you get,

00:17:00.240 say, Alzheimer's,

00:17:01.560 you know, in time,

00:17:02.920 you have to give away

00:17:04.680 all your legal and medical autonomy

00:17:07.560 to a family member.

00:17:08.780 So, at that point,

00:17:09.320 you're no longer able

00:17:10.420 to then go oh okay no no i don't want to you know live like this or whatever you have to do it early

00:17:17.400 and do it up front yeah um anyway sorry i got off how to die into death of dignity act and my own

00:17:26.000 no but how not to die fascination or yeah how not to die right yeah that's you know exactly it so

00:17:33.140 so um so there's like a few guys that and i watched like six documentaries in a row

00:17:39.320 you know and it's like funny when you're onto a topic and so you just want any doc on it yeah

00:17:44.980 yeah and like some are better than others but you're consuming them all and you can't tell

00:17:51.660 and like it's kind of frustrating because like there's some really good moments

00:17:55.400 or useful things in like the bad doc but I can't send my father to go watch the bad one you know

00:18:01.240 what I mean like where the guys like like I was telling you there was one that was sort of like

00:18:05.240 you know this guy going up to like the dairy council like to like the receptionist the front

00:18:09.820 office of the thing being like you know sticking a microphone being like how can you let americans

00:18:14.400 eat dairy when we've proven that it i know i know leave her alone yeah she's at work for the crisis

00:18:21.780 like the blood's on her hands the receptionist so so watch a bunch of docs whatever but gregor

00:18:29.460 okay gregor's like this gregor's whole thing i was just thinking how powerful is it to have a hook

00:18:34.640 You know, he's like, I read every nutritional study, you know, published each year.

00:18:40.500 So busy folks like you don't have to.

00:18:42.520 Okay.

00:18:42.820 Yeah, there we go.

00:18:43.600 And then he pulls them all together and he pulls out the insights and he gives it to

00:18:47.940 you.

00:18:48.280 And then guys, the site is not for profit.

00:18:52.280 Yeah.

00:18:52.880 The site has no ads.

00:18:54.440 That's big.

00:18:55.100 And his books, his books.

00:18:57.880 Yeah.

00:18:58.700 Funds go to charity.

00:19:00.380 See, this is when you go, oh, that's interesting for him to not profit.

00:19:04.420 off of it at all does

00:19:06.140 point to something

00:19:08.740 enticing. He's doing it because his grandmother

00:19:10.280 at, I'm not sure

00:19:12.560 what age I forget, sent home to die. 0.97

00:19:14.940 Okay, they said, 0.83

00:19:16.320 you know, your coronary disease

00:19:18.660 is so advanced.

00:19:20.340 And then this other doctor, Pritikin,

00:19:22.700 I think, who's a predecessor

00:19:24.640 of Ornish.

00:19:26.880 He makes cards, baseball cards.

00:19:29.420 Gregor is,

00:19:30.300 you know,

00:19:32.480 not beneath, but you know what I'm saying.

00:19:34.420 Yeah. Okay. Carrying the torch and, and, um, I'm just laughing because the amount of new

00:19:45.120 knowledge in my head, you know, like, like, yeah, it shocks me how quickly I can take it in through

00:19:51.140 hyperfocus, you know what I mean? And so like, there are articles I've read on his site like

00:19:55.900 six times because I've arrived at them different ways through different Googling things. And I

00:20:00.660 by myself write this okay i mean over and over again so there's a forgetting and so he's like

00:20:06.980 so pritikin says you know she goes to the doctor and he says he puts her on a whole foods plant

00:20:14.140 based diet okay cared lives another 30 years wow okay so he does it as a tribute to his grandmother

00:20:22.980 so so there's a couple things with him one okay so then last night i was watching this other one

00:20:28.540 and there's this other guy.

00:20:30.100 Okay, we're on YouTube.

00:20:31.240 We're watching a show on YouTube

00:20:32.160 on the television.

00:20:33.060 Can you imagine?

00:20:33.540 Oh, yeah.

00:20:33.800 Okay.

00:20:34.400 While I'm cooking up oak groats,

00:20:36.800 I asked Chris to find something.

00:20:40.200 On oak groats.

00:20:41.240 Endorsing plant-based

00:20:43.400 while I'm cooking it up.

00:20:44.740 Yeah, of course.

00:20:45.620 This one guy's talking

00:20:46.620 and he's like the head of cardiology

00:20:48.720 in America or something.

00:20:50.300 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:51.100 Okay, this one guy,

00:20:51.940 I forget his name.

00:20:52.460 He's new to me.

00:20:52.960 He's like being added

00:20:53.720 and he's like,

00:20:55.300 he got in trouble a little bit

00:20:56.860 because of this saucy thing.

00:20:58.540 he said. And I was like, Jesus, what's it going to be? You know what I mean? But he goes,

00:21:03.100 there are two kinds of cardiologists, vegans and those who haven't read the data. 1.00

00:21:08.760 Oh, fuck me. Okay. Damn. 1.00

00:21:12.700 Okay. And by the way, a leading cause of death among cardiologists, heart disease. 1.00

00:21:18.940 No. Yeah. I mean, which is nothing. I mean,

00:21:23.020 it's also like, I think the leading cause of death in America now.

00:21:25.240 Yeah. The thing that you said to me-

00:21:27.580 because you

00:21:28.540 because again

00:21:30.020 I'm

00:21:30.860 omnivorous

00:21:31.680 whatever

00:21:32.080 but you

00:21:33.380 saying to me

00:21:34.440 you were like

00:21:35.500 and this is what I wanted

00:21:37.060 because again

00:21:37.600 I'm not going to read the studies

00:21:38.620 I need to get the

00:21:40.080 stuff through you

00:21:41.100 you said something

00:21:42.620 pretty inflammatory

00:21:43.500 pretty wild

00:21:44.200 and saucy

00:21:44.940 about chicken

00:21:45.580 because everyone's running around

00:21:46.980 going

00:21:47.240 well I don't eat red meat

00:21:48.500 yeah I take the skin off my chicken

00:21:50.320 I mean that's like

00:21:51.420 vintage

00:21:52.320 okay

00:21:52.680 well a couple things I've read

00:21:54.340 and you know

00:21:55.240 poog is a rumor mill

00:21:56.320 to be clear 0.99

00:21:56.800 don't come here

00:21:57.300 And I want to be clear too

00:21:58.800 to everyone that's listening also.

00:22:00.580 I will not be held accountable.

00:22:02.540 And I'm never going to not have it.

00:22:03.960 You know, I think I'll be omnivorous

00:22:06.600 until I die.

00:22:08.080 But daily.

00:22:10.320 Yeah, that's why I'm not saying

00:22:12.700 because that's why I wasn't like,

00:22:14.520 I'm a vegan.

00:22:15.440 Because that is a,

00:22:18.120 like, that is a,

00:22:19.700 you know, I'm just at present

00:22:21.180 exploring a particular situation.

00:22:24.300 I think it's really good

00:22:25.200 because I'm excited to see

00:22:26.520 You're sending me photos of the Wonder...

00:22:28.040 By the way, Wonder Oven, air-fried shiitakes last night, moaning in ecstasy.

00:22:32.100 Shiitakes in the Wonder Oven.

00:22:33.260 I make purple yams every night in my Wonder Oven.

00:22:36.480 Unreal.

00:22:36.680 I mean, actually, this is Michael Greger.

00:22:38.620 So I boil my potatoes first, okay?

00:22:42.340 Because it's the least...

00:22:44.600 Starch-resistant?

00:22:45.920 Well, yeah.

00:22:47.280 So first, it keeps the nutrients.

00:22:49.660 Then you cool them.

00:22:51.160 This is the whole starch thing.

00:22:52.300 When you cool your potatoes and then reheat them,

00:22:55.060 the crystallizing of the starch whatever that is it's like a glucose hack this is where i start to

00:23:01.240 like melt because i go the time the effort i'm like boiling it and then cooling it it makes me

00:23:06.680 want to just shatter every glass but once you're a nutritarian yeah yeah okay did you make that up

00:23:13.980 i've never heard that no no there's this other guy um firman you may remember his book to live

00:23:19.860 now you know like when the student is ready the teacher reappears sometimes I remember seeing his

00:23:27.500 book at my friend's in like like it was her dad's book and in like 2000 or something okay 2006 and

00:23:36.220 I flipped through and I'm like he's saying no oil I was like well this guy's a joker okay I was like

00:23:42.920 this guy is obviously some ascetic monk you know what i mean like like this is just not

00:23:49.920 this is not i just i wasn't ready for it okay now part of it is because i'm not ready for no oil

00:23:56.320 well i know i mean you're i keep picturing your violent reaction when i first of all did not try

00:24:00.560 to push it on you i'm just telling you okay but you like you sort of i have it like because i'm

00:24:07.520 so sensitive okay i have it almost like a trauma olive oil i have a religious thing with olive oil

00:24:12.360 like olive oil being it's like and i i say huge news again rumor real poo you can say i am repeating

00:24:19.700 what i've heard now go read this stuff make your own choices whatever okay i'm just giving you like

00:24:24.980 what has landed okay it's literally um has no nutrients it's empty calories okay but but olive

00:24:36.200 It's pure fat. And, and, you know, I've been pushing the fat agenda. I've been on this podcast

00:24:41.580 saying, you know, low fat was the, I swallowed whole. Okay. Okay. The, the propaganda of,

00:24:48.040 okay, whatever. It doesn't matter. Okay. This inflames the internet, inflames the internet,

00:24:53.220 these, these questions about fat. Okay. And you've got the Bulletproof guy who is absolutely,

00:24:59.100 you know, coconut oil, MCTs, fat, the whole thing. You should be in a state of ketosis at

00:25:04.540 times for the brain function and then you got the other guys who are like saying and I feel 0.99

00:25:11.340 who are you know saying no coconut oil you fuck okay no oils at all what about algae oil what 0.84

00:25:21.760 about avocado no oils if it's an oil it has no fiber it has everything that's good in the olive 0.99

00:25:27.260 The idea being that it clogs your heart, right?

00:25:33.020 So, yeah.

00:25:35.020 I mean, dietary, like, basically about fat, like, you know,

00:25:40.640 oxidizing in the bloodstream and fucking with the endothelial layer of every artery,

00:25:46.020 which is what it's all about. 0.96

00:25:48.000 So I actually recorded this for you for fun just to disturb you even further.

00:25:54.060 Oh, no.

00:25:54.680 Okay?

00:25:54.920 no it's just

00:25:56.480 it's Rip Esselstyn

00:25:57.520 I mean

00:25:58.040 I'm sharing this

00:25:59.400 with this sort of

00:26:00.120 excitement because

00:26:01.420 no it's fun

00:26:02.200 I am

00:26:02.660 I am Mrs.

00:26:04.580 do not limit

00:26:05.240 butter fat

00:26:06.060 whatever

00:26:06.480 this is

00:26:07.060 Jacqueline

00:26:07.660 that's why this is so amazing

00:26:08.960 for me

00:26:09.300 in the case of

00:26:10.180 over the course of two weeks

00:26:11.600 as a case study

00:26:12.140 Jacqueline

00:26:13.540 Jacqueline with

00:26:14.880 yeah by

00:26:15.980 oh my god

00:26:17.100 I was gonna

00:26:18.180 sidetrack with something

00:26:19.100 can't hear it

00:26:21.320 we try again

00:26:23.040 because I'm putting it

00:26:23.700 next to the thing

00:26:24.400 okay

00:26:24.760 ready so i said listen opt in the fried chips and the candy bars but they had no idea that

00:26:33.200 extracted plant oils weren't heart healthy and weren't beneficial so i said listen this

00:26:39.820 epitomizes the triumph of marketing over science let's pick on olive oil for a second it takes

00:26:45.020 1375 olives that you have to squeeze to death right to get enough olive oil for one 32 ounce

00:26:52.940 bottle and you get rid of all the fiber in the water and the phytonutrients and the antioxidants

00:26:58.240 in the water and you're left with 100 fat the most concentrated source of calories on the planet

00:27:03.700 and it's 15 saturated fat and all it's doing is contributing to america's heart disease and

00:27:12.000 obesity epidemic okay but milk milk does a body good right oh no guys milk does no body

00:27:21.320 any good all right you've been marketed to death don't buy the hype as a matter of fact this milk

00:27:28.120 is just liquid meat is what it is it's got a very similar nutritional composition and as a matter of

00:27:35.420 fact one eight ounce glass of whole milk has the same amount of saturated fat as four slices of

00:27:42.460 bacon okay i love bacon i know no no no i tried to get no no no and this is the way it goes was 0.81

00:27:54.300 right everyone goes hang on how do you you know everyone i don't fucking know i'll just never do 0.54

00:27:59.780 one thing i can't even one thing like i guess what i mean is i i fully you know limiting meat 0.85

00:28:07.440 all that great limiting dairy probably for the best but don't take away my oil no so a week ago

00:28:14.280 okay i was saying i am not ready to like i i'm trying to explain that i am saying all this with

00:28:23.800 the fact you're not doing it from now i will say perhaps does everyone understand that that's what

00:28:28.240 i'm trying to perform here all right it's poop it's not the daily okay it's like i find it

00:28:36.700 fascinating so a week ago i'm going but you can't be serious about olive oil okay and i'm going what 0.93

00:28:41.960 the fuck the mediterranean diet okay isn't that one of the ones that was you know studied whatever 0.70

00:28:46.320 however apparently the what gregor says is that the father of the mediterranean diet the guy who's 0.99

00:28:53.160 sort of credited with that ansel keys okay wow he wasn't saying olive oil's heart healthy he was

00:29:01.940 trying to get him off the meat in any way they would eat the vet he could get him to eat the

00:29:05.000 vegetables right right right saute okay so so whatever whatever right now so i'm going but

00:29:10.600 but when gregor lays out the data and the thousands and thousands and thousands of studies

00:29:18.320 talk to my tofu it because guess what we eat a lot of tofu in this house good

00:29:24.100 although there is a there is a limit um there is a certain threshold of of it that you don't

00:29:32.080 want to cross well i doubt but you want to make sure you're but but you want do want it in your

00:29:36.480 diet like yeah like you definitely want to it has all these benefits tempeh is even better

00:29:42.380 but the things i've how are you feeling do you feel a difference

00:29:47.900 no yeah see i love that you know what i mean like no but i mean i'm asking that jackan because you

00:29:55.680 were very like if i eat grain whenever i crash i sleep i can't like i'm a little like this morning

00:30:00.840 i did eat like i kind of overdid it with the oatmeal okay or i should say with my steel cut

00:30:06.720 i love oatmeal okay i did steel cut should take a lot longer i can't believe it's jacqueline

00:30:11.500 novak having oats i mean it is a new day unbelievable okay so and i mean i did it for

00:30:18.440 years kate before okay okay years ago i was a queen you know what i mean sure but it's been

00:30:23.000 years of no oats

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00:35:04.700 my current reality i'm trying to be clear is the following it really comes down to the core of what

00:35:15.140 i'm doing right now probably uh dr greger's daily dozen okay so walk me through that okay so let me

00:35:22.980 give you the daily dozen okay i want this so i am making sure and there's an app a free app okay

00:35:29.840 okay

00:35:31.500 he called

00:35:32.160 whatever

00:35:33.280 alright

00:35:33.880 so beans

00:35:35.100 three servings a day

00:35:36.480 a serving

00:35:37.600 what's a serving

00:35:38.080 a cup

00:35:38.500 a half cup

00:35:39.540 cooked beans

00:35:40.440 okay

00:35:41.040 a fourth a cup of hummus

00:35:42.340 because that's

00:35:42.940 you know

00:35:43.180 concentrated

00:35:43.600 one and a half cups of beans

00:35:44.680 that's nothing

00:35:45.180 I know

00:35:46.240 okay

00:35:47.140 but

00:35:47.480 you know

00:35:48.940 oh well by the way

00:35:50.000 the bean protocol

00:35:50.540 I was talking to a friend

00:35:52.220 yeah 1.00

00:35:52.960 a hag who's a bean protocol 1.00

00:35:54.380 who literally 1.00

00:35:55.200 reversed 1.00

00:35:56.100 but she 0.98

00:35:57.160 again this is what 0.99

00:35:57.840 so

00:35:58.080 debilitating migraine

00:35:59.820 we used to talk a lot about migraines

00:36:01.080 the bean protocol

00:36:02.400 I feel like I've talked about it

00:36:03.360 it's the whole bean thing

00:36:04.160 but also

00:36:05.000 absolutely no sugar

00:36:05.960 absolutely no caffeine

00:36:06.900 you know it's tough

00:36:07.700 yeah

00:36:07.940 she changed her life

00:36:09.360 she's like I'll do it

00:36:10.240 for the rest of my life

00:36:10.900 like literally like

00:36:11.720 ended her migraines

00:36:12.900 yeah

00:36:13.540 actually on nutritionfacts.org

00:36:15.800 beans

00:36:15.960 I mean you start looking things up

00:36:17.820 on nutritionfacts.org

00:36:19.180 like if I

00:36:19.820 if I just type in migraine

00:36:21.180 let's just see what comes up

00:36:22.420 foods that help

00:36:26.000 migraine relief

00:36:26.980 blah blah blah

00:36:27.820 ginger for migraine

00:36:30.820 lavender

00:36:31.480 he does all the

00:36:32.620 whatever

00:36:33.140 I'd have to go in

00:36:34.060 and

00:36:34.320 alright

00:36:35.400 but I do have to get through

00:36:36.780 the daily dozen

00:36:37.300 yeah yeah

00:36:37.760 okay so

00:36:38.260 half a cook is a serving

00:36:39.320 three times a day

00:36:39.980 I mean three per day

00:36:40.940 I just think

00:36:41.500 it's probably better

00:36:42.380 eat them all at once

00:36:43.480 but they have benefits

00:36:44.980 so have you heard about

00:36:46.020 the second meal thing

00:36:46.960 with beans

00:36:47.440 no

00:36:47.920 if you eat beans

00:36:48.660 in meal one

00:36:49.380 later in meal two

00:36:50.860 when you go and have

00:36:51.600 a piece of cake

00:36:52.220 for your lunch

00:36:53.580 okay

00:36:53.960 you have less of a

00:36:55.480 glucose response

00:36:56.440 yeah yeah

00:36:57.120 Literally from beans earlier that day.

00:36:59.880 Wow, cool.

00:37:01.000 All right, berries, one serving a day, half a cup fresh or frozen.

00:37:05.160 Other fruits, okay, one medium fruit.

00:37:09.600 Sorry, other fruits, three servings a day.

00:37:12.680 So guess who's back on tart Granny Smith apples.

00:37:15.780 Now, it's another thing I struggle to control myself around, okay?

00:37:18.960 But my hope is because of my nutritarian system,

00:37:22.600 I have to get all the things I'm about to read out to you in,

00:37:26.480 And it just, it takes work to make sure you get all these things in.

00:37:30.060 So it's not like I'm just left with a bag of apples.

00:37:32.660 No, of course.

00:37:33.760 Cruciferous vegetables, servings one per day.

00:37:36.760 Okay.

00:37:37.940 Broccoli, you know the ones.

00:37:39.340 But there's some that you might not know are that like, and by the way, broccoli sprouts.

00:37:43.980 Guess who's about to start sprouting her own broccoli sprouts? 0.99

00:37:45.980 Oh, I want to talk about broccoli sprouts because broccoli sprouts, that shit is real. 0.99

00:37:50.920 And, you know, as Gregor says, you know, he has fresh produce. 0.99

00:37:55.260 he's got a couple in rotation

00:37:56.760 so he's always got them

00:37:57.800 because you know

00:37:58.620 they just grow

00:37:59.100 every couple days

00:38:00.140 so he's always got

00:38:00.840 and they are like

00:38:02.080 high nutrient

00:38:02.740 but I'm learning crazy stuff

00:38:04.380 about like chop your broccoli

00:38:05.440 if you cook your broccoli

00:38:06.580 and it loses the nutrients

00:38:07.540 then you add

00:38:08.780 mustard

00:38:09.860 or horseradish

00:38:10.920 and it actually

00:38:11.600 adds back the enzyme

00:38:12.900 that gives you the thing

00:38:13.900 that you remove

00:38:14.600 by cooking it

00:38:15.200 I'm like

00:38:15.640 okay

00:38:16.500 what's the thing

00:38:17.040 like chopping broccoli

00:38:17.740 you're supposed to leave it

00:38:18.480 like cut up

00:38:19.360 for like 10 minutes

00:38:20.200 and then cook it

00:38:21.260 or something crazy

00:38:22.120 yes

00:38:22.500 so like

00:38:23.460 ideally you chop it

00:38:24.440 and like

00:38:24.840 you know

00:38:25.140 chop it in earlier or whatever but if you and then if you can't do that because a lot of these

00:38:30.680 things this is why the whole foods thing it's like a lot of these things involve things like

00:38:34.480 reason you're supposed to chew it is because when you chew it the saliva actually interacts with a

00:38:38.660 thing that causes a certain enzyme that causes it to have a certain reaction you know it's tough

00:38:42.960 news what you won't be that upset by it i don't think but yeah and we we knew this to a certain

00:38:49.700 extent you know it's not ideal what don't smoothies oh well we knew that okay but i mean

00:38:56.980 but depends on what's in it well just in terms of getting your fruit i mean this is why i wouldn't

00:39:02.640 juice because i was worried about the fiber but well i juice i juice celery you can green juice

00:39:07.360 by the way need to shut out the haram juicer which they sent us which is unbelievable it's

00:39:12.680 making the most delicious juice i've ever had it's and it's i'm telling you this guys the cleanup

00:39:17.660 is

00:39:19.220 because I had a juicer

00:39:21.060 yeah

00:39:21.600 god bless

00:39:22.040 here I go

00:39:22.460 Breville

00:39:22.740 we know I love my Bambino

00:39:23.720 but I pay out of pocket

00:39:24.860 for a Breville juicer

00:39:25.660 god bless

00:39:26.480 it's so loud

00:39:27.720 it's like there's a car

00:39:28.620 in the kitchen

00:39:29.320 screaming

00:39:30.080 and was it a hot motor

00:39:31.580 just destroying

00:39:32.700 the Fido

00:39:33.360 yeah

00:39:34.120 yeah

00:39:34.380 yeah I guess so 0.99

00:39:35.760 the Haram

00:39:36.580 it's quiet

00:39:37.800 it's sleek

00:39:38.500 the cleanup is easy

00:39:39.760 you put it all

00:39:41.080 in like a basket

00:39:41.760 you press a button

00:39:42.520 and it just starts

00:39:43.580 slowly

00:39:44.980 I mean

00:39:45.780 munching it down

00:39:46.620 It is really fun.

00:39:48.760 It's really nice.

00:39:49.980 So I've been doing daily celery juice.

00:39:52.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:52.780 Just because there's that guy who's like the prophet of celery.

00:39:55.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:56.040 And I haven't even seen much on Gregor's site about that,

00:39:59.340 but I'm sort of still doing it.

00:40:01.540 I'm sort of still doing it based on like the rumor. 0.98

00:40:04.680 I just like doing whatever the fuck, 0.96

00:40:07.140 green juice with like ginger, lemon. 0.97

00:40:10.940 I just, the more, the whole food,

00:40:14.380 there are ways, there are ways.

00:40:16.620 You're saying smoothies, though, because you're losing the fiber or whatever.

00:40:20.040 You're talking about fruit specifically, right?

00:40:23.360 What?

00:40:24.180 It's TBD.

00:40:25.760 I mean, like, it's like, you know, pulverizing it, right?

00:40:33.180 Versus your mouth pulverizing?

00:40:35.860 Well, your mouth can't pulverize like a Vitamix can,

00:40:40.060 which is what Vitamix is like.

00:40:42.440 See, we're getting access to nutrients.

00:40:44.360 You know, like, I remember these green smoothie books talking about you need a really strong blender like the Vitamix so it pulverizes the cellular structure, you know?

00:40:51.700 Yeah.

00:40:52.200 But then over here in these studies, we're going, oh, wait, actually, no, you don't want that cellular structure.

00:40:58.140 It's like, you know, no, you don't want it broken down.

00:41:00.460 You actually want it to make it all the way down to the, you know, large intestine.

00:41:04.920 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:05.760 Or whatever.

00:41:06.380 It's like, it's a lot of information, but one thing that's like never wrong is eating it whole.

00:41:13.040 You know what I mean?

00:41:14.360 Yeah.

00:41:14.920 Like, yes, some things are more whatever when cooked.

00:41:18.480 You know, I'm getting into it and I'm enjoying it.

00:41:21.180 And fruits and vegetables, you know, are like my new friends, okay?

00:41:24.540 I think that's fun.

00:41:25.140 That I'm learning things about.

00:41:26.120 All right, all right, all right.

00:41:26.460 Will you please send me more photos of what you're making?

00:41:28.180 Beans, berries, other fruits.

00:41:28.840 Yes.

00:41:29.720 Cruciferous vegetables.

00:41:31.240 I made such a good dinner last night.

00:41:33.100 Greens, okay?

00:41:35.100 Greens, two servings a day, one cup raw, okay?

00:41:37.900 Other vegetables, e.g. non-leafy vegetables.

00:41:41.680 So you get your mushrooms, you know, et cetera.

00:41:44.840 Okay, this is a big one.

00:41:46.800 It's easy.

00:41:47.860 Flaxseed, one serving per day, one tablespoon ground. 0.98

00:41:53.140 Ground flaxseed makes my stomach fucking in the worst pain of my life. 0.94

00:41:57.160 I'm like almost allergic. 0.99

00:41:58.220 Yeah.

00:41:58.780 Flaxseed meal. 0.98

00:42:00.080 Probably ate more than a tablespoon, but flaxseed meal fucks my stomach.

00:42:04.120 Like almost like hospital level pain.

00:42:07.160 Wait, but why would you have had more than a tablespoon?

00:42:09.760 Were you treating it like-

00:42:11.060 putting it in baked goods

00:42:13.020 and like a cup of it

00:42:14.720 not even that much

00:42:18.360 but yeah

00:42:18.680 we made the most

00:42:20.180 unbelievably delicious

00:42:21.520 flaxseed chocolate banana bread

00:42:23.180 moaning

00:42:24.100 doubled over in pain

00:42:25.880 on verge of tears

00:42:27.400 like in the middle of the night

00:42:28.940 oh my god

00:42:30.320 yeah expands in the stomach

00:42:31.760 to the point of

00:42:32.760 now was there

00:42:34.180 right like

00:42:36.800 was there

00:42:38.280 I wonder

00:42:40.200 but you have to try it again.

00:42:41.680 How are you downing,

00:42:42.600 how are you getting the flaxseed meal in?

00:42:44.000 How are you getting it in?

00:42:44.600 So I,

00:42:45.340 I have,

00:42:46.380 are you ready?

00:42:47.400 I finished one canister of nutritional yeast.

00:42:50.700 Okay.

00:42:51.000 So good.

00:42:51.800 Okay.

00:42:52.580 And so I used it.

00:42:53.980 I poured the flax into it.

00:42:56.520 Mix it up.

00:42:56.900 And so I shake it onto salads.

00:42:59.100 I shake it onto things.

00:43:00.560 Got it.

00:43:01.380 And that's generally how I do it.

00:43:03.260 And I just make sure to try to get to a tablespoon.

00:43:05.300 A tablespoon is not a lot.

00:43:06.740 Okay.

00:43:07.020 Nuts and seeds,

00:43:08.600 one serving a day,

00:43:09.640 A fourth a cup of nuts or two tablespoons nut butter, herbs and spices, turmeric, of course, is recommended.

00:43:19.340 Whole grains, three servings per day.

00:43:22.760 Now, a serving is a half a cup of hot cereal, okay, or a slice of bread. 0.97

00:43:26.960 I like a big fucking bowl of hot cereal, so that's going to be an issue. 0.97

00:43:30.500 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:43:31.200 Yeah.

00:43:32.180 That's where I'm going to be like, this is going to be hard.

00:43:34.420 I don't want to have a half cup of oatmeal.

00:43:37.000 Well, can't you have a cup and a half then?

00:43:39.280 Three servings?

00:43:40.340 Sure.

00:43:40.920 But then that's no grain later in the day when you want to have a grain bowl with me.

00:43:45.400 Got it.

00:43:46.060 I mean, it's like this is where, you know, portion control.

00:43:50.120 Ooh, last night, breaking through, extra firm tofu on a box grater.

00:43:55.200 Okay.

00:43:55.640 Oh my God.

00:43:56.400 Grating it.

00:43:56.900 Yeah.

00:43:57.480 Oh, that's what that was.

00:43:58.800 Sautéing it.

00:43:59.180 You said grated and I couldn't tell.

00:44:00.860 Unbelievable.

00:44:01.220 We did sushi rice with the grated, like stir-fried kind of tofu, air-fried shiitake mushrooms, chopped up cucumber, scallions, sesame seeds, nori, got seaweed, unbelievable food.

00:44:20.200 I've actually made a few, what did I make?

00:44:23.680 Like an avocado roll.

00:44:25.560 But yeah, I finally got the thing that helps you roll it. 1.00

00:44:28.360 you know this is the driest poog episode i've ever i was going through i mean listen i'm actually 0.99

00:44:34.680 i'm riveted though because i want the full daily dozen i want to hear it

00:44:38.760 i've questioned my life like a lot during this episode like i i'm like but again there's a

00:44:46.100 larger performance that of poog there's a larger performance art i insist do you understand well

00:44:54.060 Well, I want to say that I went to, that I was having a full-

00:44:57.380 Beverages, five a day.

00:44:58.520 You get mad when I left the list.

00:45:00.560 So I wanted to finish the list.

00:45:00.820 Go, go, go, go back, go back, finish the list.

00:45:02.780 Okay, you hated my easels, all right?

00:45:05.180 No, I didn't.

00:45:06.520 So beverages, five healthful beverages a day.

00:45:08.840 This is where we get into water, green tea and hibiscus tea.

00:45:11.800 Now, he pulled all this research and he decided to line up all of the antioxidants of all

00:45:16.560 the different things because he was pushing green tea for years, okay, based on the studies. 0.99

00:45:19.680 holy shit 0.98

00:45:21.260 hibiscus 0.99

00:45:21.880 was through

00:45:23.280 the roof

00:45:24.560 how are you doing it

00:45:26.240 okay

00:45:27.000 how do you compare it

00:45:27.820 so right now

00:45:28.780 I don't have any

00:45:29.700 special strainer

00:45:30.560 or anything

00:45:31.160 but of course

00:45:32.180 got so

00:45:32.860 determined on this

00:45:34.260 that I already sent

00:45:34.940 my parents

00:45:35.580 the strainer

00:45:36.240 you know what I mean

00:45:36.920 like

00:45:37.200 so they could get on it

00:45:38.600 I don't like

00:45:39.000 leave people in the dust

00:45:39.920 so

00:45:40.760 mason jar

00:45:41.740 okay

00:45:42.260 I throw in the hibiscus flowers

00:45:44.080 dried

00:45:44.580 yeah

00:45:45.000 throw them in

00:45:45.660 like the equivalent

00:45:46.980 of what I imagine

00:45:47.820 like four teabags is

00:45:49.060 or whatever

00:45:49.440 okay fill it with water boiling screw the cap back on throw it in the fridge cold no cold brew

00:45:56.860 overnight but no it's not boiling you don't have to you can cold brew hibiscus oh next morning okay

00:46:03.340 i pull it out and right now i just have a little strainer and i just pour it into a new into the

00:46:09.100 other jar now you don't want to drink more than a quart a day a big like a like a i guess 32 ounces

00:46:16.900 because of the manganese content, okay?

00:46:20.720 Which you want.

00:46:21.540 But anyway, you want to limit it for the cup.

00:46:23.180 You don't want to drink gallons.

00:46:24.360 I mean, sorry, at a quart, okay?

00:46:26.740 How much is a quart?

00:46:27.600 How many cups is a quart?

00:46:28.680 I'm pretty sure it's...

00:46:30.360 Wait, let me check.

00:46:30.840 I think it's 32 ounces.

00:46:32.220 Hold on.

00:46:34.120 Well, that's fine.

00:46:36.180 Yeah.

00:46:36.540 So like a big mason jar,

00:46:38.740 just like a normal Erewhon soup mason jar.

00:46:41.800 Got it.

00:46:42.200 Got it.

00:46:42.440 Okay, so no more than a full mason jar.

00:46:44.040 Yeah, of course.

00:46:44.780 Okay, but spread it out through the day

00:46:46.180 and rinse your teeth after. Okay. And try not to drink it three hours before until three hours

00:46:53.080 before you brush your teeth because it's acidic. Got it. Oh God. Full-time job here.

00:46:58.940 Full-time job. You know, I've also started working in the kitchen. Okay. Which has been huge. It's

00:47:06.460 part of sort of the stool culture for me. Okay. Which is, and I'm going to get a little thing

00:47:10.480 that I'm kind of in the kitchen. My oats are cooking and my laptop is resting on this grate

00:47:14.940 I have going across the sink water's flying over the laptop I don't care you know what I mean

00:47:19.520 because you're cooking in there yeah I'm cooking in there and I'm I don't know something about it

00:47:24.020 it's like really working I completely believe it I had a I had a food meltdown I was in Vancouver

00:47:29.420 very briefly and it was a thing of like wanting me being invigorated by your veganism that me

00:47:36.980 getting excited suddenly feel you calling veganism is going to be a continued issue

00:47:42.120 Piccadillo for me.

00:47:43.420 But it is vegan.

00:47:44.380 It happens to be vegan.

00:47:45.780 Oh, okay.

00:47:46.380 Wow.

00:47:47.180 Okay.

00:47:47.480 There's a consciousness shift.

00:47:49.160 To say, because first of all.

00:47:51.840 I hear what you're saying.

00:47:52.820 What do you prefer?

00:47:55.080 Whole foods plant-based.

00:47:56.300 Okay.

00:47:56.940 Well, then here we are.

00:47:57.960 That's what you got to Google to get to the real information that we want.

00:48:00.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:01.360 Sure. 0.99

00:48:01.960 Not just because vegan, you could be on a trash diet.

00:48:04.320 Not even just because of that, but also because I do think veganism, 0.89

00:48:08.600 like as a ism is a thing that people like you know are doing with a you don't care about the

00:48:16.480 animals yeah well it's no i mean i'm it's not that like i'm thrilled of course i feel like i

00:48:24.040 look boo the cat in the eye you know what i mean like i feel like like but i ate meat for for years

00:48:31.700 and and just blocked it out right so it's like you know what i'm saying it's it's like a it's

00:48:37.660 like, I'm trying out, like, am I trying out something? Am I trying out nonviolence? You

00:48:42.940 know what I mean? So anyway, I just, whole foods plant-based is what's leading me. And like,

00:48:48.100 hopefully I'll, and yes, like, you watch the docs, the environmental, I mean, it'll fuck you up. 0.97

00:48:53.620 Of course. I'm excited for you to come over and for us to make a gorgeous plant-based cornucopia.

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00:53:48.780 Went to Vancouver, I'll just say.

00:53:50.940 Oh yeah.

00:53:51.360 Woke up, I was like, I want juice, right?

00:53:53.900 DoorDash delivered, you know, it's like turmeric juice. 0.99

00:53:56.740 okay two shots um a protein like kind of like an acai situation right i'm posting on fucking 0.89

00:54:03.180 instagram what came i was devastated i texted you i was so upset i took one but it was literally i'm 0.90

00:54:08.520 like have you blended the acai with liquid cane sugar it was inedibly sweet in edible and it

00:54:14.900 looked i mean i'm like it was honey look at this maple syrup i sent you this photo i mean there's

00:54:22.080 nothing about the photo that if you told me that was delicious and made of the like there's nothing

00:54:26.220 offensive on that photo I mean but the turmeric juice had so much honey in it it was a glass of

00:54:32.080 honey I was devastated and then I door dashed Starbucks and what'd you get from them you're

00:54:40.420 not gonna like it egg bites I like it I don't judge the other food you see this is what you're

00:54:45.440 forcing vegans okay okay now um but and I don't but in an emergency you know in an emergency the

00:54:52.840 starbucks egg bites i texted i i would eat i love the starbucks egg bite god i mean like in a pinch 0.95

00:54:59.940 the fucking spot yeah yeah hits the spot was on the plane yesterday sat on the plane for an 0.97

00:55:04.680 for an hour co-pilot stuck in traffic it's not interesting no yeah co-pilot stuck in traffic 0.99

00:55:11.040 so you're stuck at the gate oh yeah on the plane because he's not he's no at the gate they didn't

00:55:15.780 they weren't taxiing yeah the guy's not even on exactly i was just sitting there that's insane

00:55:20.760 guy next to me it was insane how do you feel about this guy next to me older gentleman maybe

00:55:26.220 60 maybe under about 30 minutes in starts hacking he's wearing a surgical mask which we know doesn't 0.95

00:55:32.900 really do shit he's hacking coughing taking off the mask to blow his nose and I go well here we 0.87

00:55:38.160 go I'm wearing a mask but I'm like could it be that it's just he literally knows he has COVID 1.00

00:55:44.860 or is it he's actively sick,

00:55:47.120 not sure what it is

00:55:48.000 or is it...

00:55:49.080 Because if I were displaying symptoms like that

00:55:51.300 sitting on a plane

00:55:52.020 and it wasn't COVID,

00:55:53.820 it was just residual, whatever,

00:55:54.680 I would literally turn to the person and go,

00:55:56.040 by the way, I'm not sick.

00:55:57.560 I've just had this for weeks.

00:56:00.020 But the fact that he didn't do that

00:56:01.440 made me go, 1.00

00:56:03.240 this motherfucker has COVID. 1.00

00:56:04.920 That's a very specific personality style. 1.00

00:56:07.920 What, the hacking?

00:56:09.220 No. 1.00

00:56:11.380 The hacking Jew? 0.98

00:56:13.140 To be clear, it's not COVID. 0.93

00:56:14.400 okay there's different versions of this personality no but i turn to the person next to you this one

00:56:20.280 makes me think that he knows it's covid and he goes well i'm traveling with a mask is that i was 1.00

00:56:25.400 like inching kind of away from him like i just was like i'm gonna kill myself this motherfucker 1.00

00:56:29.920 like by the way he's taking off his mask to eat chicken piccata 0.99

00:56:33.720 my mask stayed on thank you took it off course to because i was dying of hunger i had to eat a bar

00:56:41.520 drink some water

00:56:42.440 but he

00:56:44.340 said oh can I get up

00:56:46.040 to use the

00:56:46.440 he's like oh do you mind

00:56:47.420 if I get up to use the restroom

00:56:48.300 and I've said sure

00:56:49.080 and he goes thank you so much

00:56:50.600 I'm so sorry

00:56:51.340 he starts apologizing this way

00:56:52.760 I go you're apologizing

00:56:53.840 for giving me COVID right now 1.00

00:56:54.840 motherfucker 1.00

00:56:55.260 like the way that he was 1.00

00:56:56.580 so effusively like

00:56:57.340 I'm so sorry

00:56:58.200 I was like it's fine

00:56:59.020 no no getting up

00:56:59.940 to let you go to the bathroom

00:57:00.880 that is fine

00:57:01.780 this is fascinating

00:57:03.440 I wonder

00:57:04.820 this

00:57:05.160 I just I just can't say

00:57:08.220 unless I'm there

00:57:08.740 he was so excessively polite

00:57:09.740 and he was like

00:57:10.540 to the flight attendant

00:57:11.600 he was doing a whole

00:57:12.340 like

00:57:12.620 would it be possible

00:57:14.240 to get ice

00:57:14.940 you know I'm like

00:57:15.420 what are you doing right now

00:57:16.780 guilt

00:57:17.640 wait he was blowing

00:57:18.520 was it

00:57:19.260 is it possible

00:57:20.180 the cough was chronic

00:57:20.980 or he was blowing his nose

00:57:22.200 like it was an active

00:57:23.320 like could he just be

00:57:25.140 could it be a chronic

00:57:26.560 but coughing Jacqueline

00:57:27.720 coughing 1.00

00:57:28.660 a lot

00:57:29.520 but coughs can be

00:57:30.500 like

00:57:31.220 yeah that's true

00:57:31.860 coughing

00:57:32.380 he could have lung issues

00:57:34.020 like

00:57:34.420 he could be like

00:57:36.400 on the way out

00:57:37.600 I hope for my case

00:57:38.620 he was on his way out

00:57:39.560 but he was

00:57:40.060 Hacking, coughing, blowing his nose.

00:57:43.780 Yeah, the blowing his nose makes it sound like he's actively fighting something off.

00:57:48.700 Well, I guess we'll find out.

00:57:51.280 Do I go visit my elderly parents today as I was planning?

00:57:53.800 You know, this is like, this is what we, these are the questions.

00:57:58.280 I wonder if you could empower yourself to be like, is it COVID? 0.99

00:58:01.200 I was almost considering like, hey, motherfucker, just tell me right now. 0.99

00:58:05.120 Is it? 0.99

00:58:05.740 Because I know I should have done that. 0.99

00:58:07.860 Because, I mean, you could also lure him in with the you're not going to get in trouble ruse, but like, you know, just like, just like, listen, I don't give a shit. 0.99

00:58:16.460 Is it COVID? 0.98

00:58:17.240 Like, or just like, like, I don't blame you, but like, let me know.

00:58:20.100 Is it COVID?

00:58:20.660 Okay.

00:58:21.600 And then if he's like, it is, you could be like, then you could start being like talking to the, the flight attendant and saying like, can I get moved or something?

00:58:32.680 Get moved where?

00:58:33.600 Do whatever you gotta do to get the information

00:58:36.420 To pull the information out of him

00:58:37.960 Oh god

00:58:41.500 But I also don't think there's a reason

00:58:44.620 For you to assume

00:58:45.460 You should start asking

00:58:47.980 Yeah

00:58:48.680 Well cause people as we know

00:58:51.220 People do have COVID in there

00:58:52.760 They're out there running around knowing it

00:58:55.740 Really?

00:58:57.220 100% 1.00

00:58:57.620 That's why I was like this fucking cocksucker has COVID 1.00

00:59:01.260 I'm hacking it up 1.00

00:59:03.300 were you in

00:59:04.840 business class?

00:59:07.240 Yeah.

00:59:08.380 Again,

00:59:08.720 it was a job.

00:59:09.820 No,

00:59:10.000 I know.

00:59:10.380 So they flew you.

00:59:11.400 They flew me first,

00:59:12.200 but it was fake first. 0.91

00:59:13.120 It was shitty first, 0.74

00:59:13.980 but yeah. 0.56

00:59:14.440 Oh,

00:59:14.940 it was old school first.

00:59:16.040 Ashtray.

00:59:16.700 Ash.

00:59:17.080 Yeah.

00:59:17.480 Trey first.

00:59:18.560 So it's just,

00:59:19.180 it's a bigger seat.

00:59:20.460 Yeah.

00:59:21.680 Whatever.

00:59:22.540 No point in dwelling on it.

00:59:26.840 Here's a,

00:59:27.420 here's a fun little,

00:59:29.100 I'll,

00:59:29.440 I'll wrap us up with this.

00:59:31.880 So I'm staying at a hotel.

00:59:33.300 you know, in for a job, nice hotel. In the morning, I'm leaving and I asked to get my

00:59:40.160 room made up because truly because I had ordered in so much takeout. So coming home that night,

00:59:46.900 a stack of takeout in a bag, trash, sitting on top, resting atop a tiny

00:59:52.940 hotel-sized trash can. Coffee table? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's part of my life.

00:59:57.600 Yeah, totally. I know. Okay, go on.

00:59:59.420 So the room made up, I come back maybe 1130 that night and walk in, walk in.

01:00:11.560 It's a big room.

01:00:12.500 It was like a living room area.

01:00:13.820 I'm like, wow, they made it up.

01:00:14.940 It's great.

01:00:15.740 I have like nothing with me.

01:00:16.960 It's two nights.

01:00:17.480 I have a tiny bag, very sparse.

01:00:20.000 I turn the corner into the bedroom.

01:00:22.300 Next to the bed, perfectly made up, is a baby crib.

01:00:26.960 did you were you frightened for a second i was frightened i mean howling laughing no well it was

01:00:36.200 i was howling laughing because it was eerie and i'm gonna post the photo because it's like it was

01:00:40.400 well the photo was very the crib is like standing there is the presence of the crib it's so funny

01:00:46.920 and also just like a businesswoman like them like oh yeah they're like this woman hardened by work

01:00:54.080 coming home 1.00

01:00:56.580 and then put the whore 1.00

01:00:58.800 on the 10th floor, 1.00

01:00:59.860 let's put a crib next. 0.86

01:01:00.800 It's,

01:01:01.240 I mean,

01:01:02.400 it's so funny.

01:01:03.620 To mock you,

01:01:04.720 to say,

01:01:05.600 what about your family

01:01:07.260 that you've left at home?

01:01:08.580 Or,

01:01:08.740 yeah.

01:01:10.120 A baby,

01:01:10.680 you know.

01:01:11.040 A baby crib.

01:01:12.020 And I was like,

01:01:12.460 Or to say,

01:01:12.980 you have an empty crib

01:01:14.220 in your life.

01:01:14.960 I know,

01:01:15.380 exactly.

01:01:15.900 It's a haunting image.

01:01:16.820 By the way,

01:01:17.460 you could trigger someone 0.99

01:01:18.420 to hell with that. 0.98

01:01:19.680 Yeah.

01:01:20.120 I was like,

01:01:20.540 that could be the most upsetting thing

01:01:22.220 that someone could ever.

01:01:23.080 I want to, here's what I want to do.

01:01:24.360 Come back to. 1.00

01:01:24.880 You can fuck someone. 1.00

01:01:26.480 Okay. 1.00

01:01:26.940 I want to review this.

01:01:28.000 I want you to call.

01:01:30.300 I'll pick up.

01:01:31.000 You say you want to get the room made up.

01:01:32.640 Just do it as you would have done it.

01:01:34.060 Okay.

01:01:34.340 I want to see if there's something they could have heard that they might have interpreted

01:01:38.400 and misheard.

01:01:39.120 By the way, I said it.

01:01:40.160 I didn't call.

01:01:41.160 I put the please make up the room thing on and then on my way out, I said, hi, because

01:01:45.460 I was even kind of late.

01:01:46.320 I was like, would it be possible to get my room made up?

01:01:48.460 That's all I said.

01:01:50.320 I didn't say.

01:01:50.800 Those words?

01:01:51.800 Room made up?

01:01:52.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:52.840 Would it be possible to get my roommate up? 0.97

01:01:55.160 Crib up. 0.99

01:01:55.800 Put the crib in the room up.

01:01:57.380 Yeah, no.

01:01:57.980 Would it be possible to-

01:01:58.720 And I have a baby. 0.99

01:02:00.080 So maybe let's get a crib in there for the baby.

01:02:02.580 Thank you.

01:02:03.320 Like, there's no way.

01:02:04.460 So I, it was late and I was tired.

01:02:06.420 And I was like, I don't need it to go away.

01:02:08.800 But I was like, but I should call 0.99

01:02:10.100 because what if somebody's like, where's my fucking crib? 0.99

01:02:12.140 Yeah. 0.99

01:02:12.720 So I called their front desk and I was like,

01:02:14.160 hi, I just came back and there's a crib next to my-

01:02:18.560 And by the way, I want to be clear.

01:02:19.440 This crib means they assembled it in the room. 0.99

01:02:21.380 it's like a big crib yeah it's not like a bassinet it's a fucking crib like I don't think it would 0.98

01:02:28.060 have fit inside the door maybe well how did they get it out then we'll know the answer to that 0.99

01:02:32.980 question well I don't know I left I checked out the next morning she was like oh they didn't come

01:02:37.140 and get it no I said she was like I'm sorry I could have someone come get it I was like

01:02:41.820 I was like no it's I'm so tired I don't want to you know I was like no no it's no problem I just

01:02:46.140 wanted to make sure someone else wasn't waiting on a crib and she was like oh it must be some

01:02:50.280 error. No, it's fine. We can take it out in the morning. I said, okay. So I slept next to the

01:02:55.260 empty crib. Incredible. It's kind of interesting. I made a point not to touch it. Well, I think

01:03:02.160 that was smart. Almost like in a superstition. On so many different levels, I think that was

01:03:12.800 smart. It's a very charged object. I might've been like, it's got to go. First of all, you're

01:03:19.580 begging you know i mean it's a it's like a horror movie you know premise where you go it's fine and

01:03:28.160 it's like but you haven't thought of all the reasons it's not fine and i could come up with

01:03:31.420 you don't think i'm cursed no no i think i thought you could have woken up with a demon in there

01:03:37.400 yeah i thought it was kind of playful i thought i thought it was kind of cool i was like oh

01:03:43.500 oh wait you do these send these little signs to me but it was like what was what did it mean

01:03:50.680 it was very Hashem have a baby you know yeah I guess oh my god kind of crazy I just also think 0.93

01:04:00.980 like I inherently picture it as like a germ I just don't really anything that isn't you know

01:04:08.100 whatever hotels are disgusting but then anything that's sort of like the rogue items like

01:04:12.740 the cots and the

01:04:15.140 Jesus, you know, a humidifier.

01:04:17.900 You know, like apparently it's a thing

01:04:19.180 you can ask for a hotel.

01:04:20.600 It's like, that thing's not been cleaned.

01:04:24.980 Cots and cribs

01:04:26.180 and the storage unit that those are in.

01:04:28.700 Oh, I know.

01:04:29.380 The closet those are coming up from.

01:04:31.640 I'm just picturing fluorescent light,

01:04:33.260 almost worse than if they were held in a dark closet.

01:04:35.560 There's like a room that's fluorescent

01:04:37.100 all night long and there's

01:04:38.760 like a crib in there and six cots

01:04:40.960 and another crib.

01:04:42.740 There's something disappointing in a business when you see that their businesses run on stuff you can buy at the store. Like under the sink, you see the Clorox wipes and you're just like, like in, I don't know, in a, in the office, in the hotel, like in the office, like in a, in a site, like in the lunchroom in a hotel, you know what I'm saying? It'd be like, and you see Windex or something, like someone carrying Windex.

01:05:06.180 Like, it almost seems like everything should be like, oh, they ran out for some Windex.

01:05:11.660 Like, everything should be coming down through the hotel's, like, branding or something.

01:05:16.860 Like, you want to see Windex with the...

01:05:19.320 Hilton logo on it.

01:05:22.540 Like, I'm like, decant into a Hilton spritzer.

01:05:26.120 Jar.

01:05:26.420 There's just, I think it breaks a little bit of the mystery.

01:05:29.460 I don't, none of these are the perfect example, but I know one's out there.

01:05:33.560 if you were me

01:05:34.880 would you go see

01:05:35.920 your parents

01:05:36.760 like having been

01:05:37.900 to the hacking man

01:05:38.680 I don't know

01:05:41.900 what to do

01:05:42.440 like truly

01:05:44.040 when was it yesterday

01:05:44.700 I had a mask on

01:05:45.640 yeah

01:05:46.320 but I mean

01:05:47.300 I took it off

01:05:48.020 to drink water

01:05:48.920 I mean

01:05:49.140 it wasn't on

01:05:49.760 when his was off

01:05:50.560 oh yeah

01:05:51.240 he was having 1.00

01:05:51.740 fucking chicken piccata 1.00

01:05:52.800 this bitch 1.00

01:05:53.340 no I mean 1.00

01:05:54.560 I mean

01:05:55.220 when did you

01:05:56.340 yes there was

01:05:56.800 some crossover

01:05:57.400 yeah

01:05:57.680 not a lot

01:05:58.760 but there was

01:05:59.260 definitely a crossover

01:05:59.920 um

01:06:01.580 I mean 0.98

01:06:03.500 how long is the fucking incubation two days what isn't the newer strains it's like fast right 0.99

01:06:11.800 it's like oh fuck me i don't know man i mean i just don't know i mean the other thing though 0.99

01:06:19.560 is like but everyone you're also going to your i mean you are going to your parents after you 0.99

01:06:23.980 go out to dinner with me like well that's exactly what i'm saying i'm like i'm not living i'm not

01:06:28.440 exactly no I'm not at all doing that

01:06:30.640 it kind of doesn't seem like

01:06:32.100 I know I know

01:06:33.180 I don't know

01:06:34.580 my mom had COVID a few weeks ago

01:06:37.740 no symptoms

01:06:38.660 so that's good but my dad still hasn't had it

01:06:42.140 but yeah no

01:06:43.800 I'm not living like hermetically sealed

01:06:45.960 he's you know

01:06:47.240 he's getting visitors and stuff

01:06:49.440 people are traveling down

01:06:51.460 oh really?

01:06:53.240 yeah

01:06:53.600 alright I'll just go

01:06:57.660 I just yeah I just I I don't know I don't know I think I guess I guess it's like if

01:07:06.340 if he got it um I don't know in the future I'm gonna live with that risk could you live

01:07:11.860 with having taken that risk and yeah I guess in the future I'm just I'm gonna ask someone 1.00

01:07:16.960 hey is it COVID because I have to adjust my plans then you bitch do you know if it's COVID 1.00

01:07:24.300 because they could have spontaneously... 1.00

01:07:27.920 They could be, well, I haven't tested.

01:07:29.140 I don't know.

01:07:29.780 Yeah.

01:07:30.500 Do you know if it's COVID?

01:07:31.560 It's almost...

01:07:32.280 I just want to make it as okay as possible

01:07:34.580 for them to admit the truth.

01:07:36.020 I'm trying to figure out what that is.

01:07:37.580 Right?

01:07:38.040 So you're like, COVID?

01:07:39.240 Exactly.

01:07:39.540 Or you're like, I get it.

01:07:41.140 I just use it now.

01:07:42.440 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:43.020 Dude, dude, dude.

01:07:43.940 I'll get it.

01:07:44.500 I don't care.

01:07:45.600 Yeah.

01:07:45.740 All right.

01:07:49.240 Well, Daily Dezen, 1.00

01:07:51.320 I'm going to go have a Brazil nut. 1.00

01:07:54.300 I'm starving. 0.99

01:07:57.320 I'm starving.

01:07:58.380 I need to make my...

01:07:59.880 The groats are just finishing up downstairs.

01:08:02.440 I got groats.

01:08:02.960 I got steel cut oats going.

01:08:08.100 My groats are barley, to be clear.

01:08:12.100 And yeah, I'll send you some pics.

01:08:14.060 Send me some pics.

01:08:16.060 All right.

01:08:17.200 Back at it.

01:08:18.260 Back on the studio.

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