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00:02:52.740 is Coog. Today's topic, loosely speaking, Velvet Slipper, Black Honey, Home Sauna.

00:03:02.900 By the way, we're back. We're back. We're back. And by the way, I went live from the Emmys.

00:03:08.560 Okay. That was a gift. Okay. I went live with the hags from the red carpet. I will say,

00:03:15.940 should that ever happen again, a rerun situation, we would just, I was thinking about,

00:03:20.540 we just go live on Instagram together. We just fucking do live for however long we can manage.

00:03:26.040 You mean as a, as an apology for a rerun? Essentially as a replacement. Yeah. Like 0.98

00:03:30.240 they get 20 minutes live. By the way, I mean, everything's fine. I can only imagine people

00:03:34.500 worried, you know, everything's fine. Yeah. I mean, well, it's also important. People don't

00:03:38.620 realize that technically Poog is seasonal. There are seasons. This is like a TV show.

00:03:44.700 interesting and ultimately they're gonna have to realize that next season's not guaranteed

00:03:51.620 you know wow i love when you threaten the end it scares me it's important because this isn't

00:03:57.620 no no nothing's guaranteed it's an odd thing like for particularly i mean like talk about

00:04:04.080 not just scarcity but like as an artist you know if it's just guaranteed like i i don't know like

00:04:11.200 Like, I know we talk about it like it's just life, but I love to threaten how it could end at any time.

00:04:16.980 I do. I do love to threaten it, but it literally could.

00:04:19.700 So congrats on what you get.

00:04:21.400 And just so everyone knows, I think this does add an element of suspense.

00:04:26.180 I do get texts from Jack on sometimes when she says we're quitting or she's like, you've been like, you're like a couple of times.

00:04:33.120 It's been like, like, let's end it. Like, it's over.

00:04:35.380 We end it. Like, you know, it can still exist like in other forms.

00:04:38.860 like, you know, okay, maybe we tour, uh, you know, once a year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or something like

00:04:45.280 that. No, it's not, I need everyone to know it's not going anywhere and we're going to be bigger

00:04:49.880 and better and brighter as the years pass. Sure. Well, no, but that's what I'm trying to say is

00:04:54.980 that I think ultimately we need to be able to promise seasonally. Okay. Because then at the

00:05:00.320 end of the season, whatever that is for us, it's like, we can decide if it's continuing. I just

00:05:07.360 think to go like for the next 10 years every tuesday this is coming out like i think it'll

00:05:14.240 lead to issues i think we also want to be able to have a spirit of the season where we go like

00:05:18.620 here we go season whatever of course of course and there'll be like remember season four you

00:05:24.220 know or whatever god remember there's several ideas floating around but the point is nothing's 0.69

00:05:28.820 guaranteed in this life all may pass away ain't that the fucking truth but i'll tell you one thing 0.85

00:05:34.140 that is guaranteed in this life. Yerba mate being, listen, imagine me at the grocery store 0.97

00:05:41.220 the day before yesterday, ravenous, freaking out, grabbing snacks, eating them, going, I need coffee,

00:05:49.180 midday slump. I stroll past the Yerba mate. This is the jarred. What's this brand?

00:05:56.160 Bottled, I think you mean. Yeah. It's bottled. Is it Yerba or is it actually Herba? I don't

00:06:01.380 fucking know. I don't know about tea. Okay. But here's the point. Unsweetened traditional. 0.99

00:06:07.320 This will get your rocks off. There's nothing else. It's just good. I was excited. Also,

00:06:12.740 it was like $3 versus what? My $8 matcha, you know? I wonder if that was the brand that had

00:06:18.540 the tie-in with somebody. It was like sugar. Probably. They do energy drinks, but then the

00:06:24.000 energy drinks, sorry, not to be toxic, but we're talking about 20 grams of sugar. You know,

00:06:28.780 there's no sugar in this there's no this is just black this is just tea yeah and the flavor you

00:06:34.140 because like you know when you try to you're not saying you're not saying this is instead of coffee

00:06:38.320 in your life no no no i'm just saying but for unexpected my beverage world is quite limited

00:06:43.540 you know it's like water coffee seltzer you just go time for some water now in the day how do you

00:06:50.320 how do you remember to drink any fertility struggle or my my uh oh when you're swallowing

00:06:56.800 a pill no my uh yeah my fertility jug just flew out but my um my my sippy cup oh your fertility

00:07:05.180 mug yeah I call it fertility mug because I got that water bottle when I was freezing my eggs 0.99

00:07:10.000 because it was like you need to be drinking two liters of water a day and I was like fuck this 1.00

00:07:14.080 I see these women out here the trad wife yeah the trad wife sippy cup yeah I see these women 0.99

00:07:18.280 out here with this and I go join the ranks of them yeah and that thing is at my side 1.00

00:07:23.620 Miss Trad Wife sippy cup fertility mug.

00:07:25.780 Yeah. 0.52

00:07:27.460 It's at my side all day, every day.

00:07:29.820 Okay, but listen.

00:07:30.560 Yeah, and I got one too.

00:07:31.980 It freed me to get one.

00:07:33.340 I got one in gray.

00:07:33.700 Wait, you got one?

00:07:34.960 Well, I went to Backcountry at the Grove, you know, store.

00:07:38.920 I'm horrified to say I don't.

00:07:40.360 Sort of like a modern REI kind of vibe.

00:07:45.120 Wait, are you serious?

00:07:45.880 They've got different brands in there.

00:07:47.500 Yeah, it is incredible.

00:07:48.740 And I won't lie.

00:07:50.060 I was recognized on the way into the store.

00:07:51.920 and someone working there, 1.00

00:07:55.440 hag. 0.96

00:07:56.160 Huge.

00:07:56.620 It was unbelievable. 1.00

00:07:58.940 The hags are infiltrating 1.00

00:08:01.140 all areas of culture. 1.00

00:08:02.800 When they speak out,

00:08:05.240 it changes the day. 1.00

00:08:06.840 God bless the hags. 1.00

00:08:07.440 Yeah, it really does give a boost. 0.99

00:08:10.300 But backcountry, 1.00

00:08:10.960 Lord protect the hags. 0.91

00:08:12.460 Oh, I went in there

00:08:13.280 and then I was like,

00:08:14.140 yeah, I want one because

00:08:15.500 I drive now.

00:08:17.520 Wait, whoa.

00:08:18.880 Stop, stop everything.

00:08:20.420 You're driving?

00:08:21.840 I finally just like got in the habit.

00:08:23.820 When did you start?

00:08:25.080 Like, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, maybe.

00:08:29.120 I mean, mostly it's just like, so I can go to Tracy, you know, like in the morning without.

00:08:34.460 So you're driving yourself.

00:08:35.680 Yeah.

00:08:36.140 And I zip off.

00:08:37.260 How's it feel?

00:08:38.200 Great.

00:08:38.680 Were you scared the first few times?

00:08:40.260 No.

00:08:41.320 It was just like.

00:08:41.980 You driving is something, it's making me laugh.

00:08:44.360 Something about you behind the wheel is really funny to me.

00:08:47.400 The joke is like, I've driven all over this country.

00:08:50.000 I grew up in the suburbs.

00:08:50.840 i drive so it's just that we got in this habit of like me not driving in los angeles and then it

00:08:57.680 just felt like it was today the day like right i don't know it just sort of got in this habit and

00:09:02.880 then i love it it's fun and i've always experienced a mood lift in the car the car is a huge place 0.98

00:09:11.320 for transformation like even like real depression if you just get on the road you get your ass on

00:09:16.140 the road like drive like drive drive drive the music going oh yeah it's it's huge driving is so

00:09:24.380 interesting because you're at either side like the Brits you know over on the right side or the left

00:09:29.600 side I think it's weird it's weird to operate something not from the dead center think about

00:09:34.540 that you know what I mean yeah doesn't seem like the driver's seat should be oh no look I did it

00:09:41.640 I was doing the thing.

00:09:42.760 What?

00:09:43.100 Like, this is my microphone.

00:09:44.340 Oh, she's holding the limo.

00:09:45.440 I caught myself using it as my mic.

00:09:47.800 What was I saying?

00:09:48.900 Operating out from the center.

00:09:50.300 Oh, yeah.

00:09:50.680 It doesn't seem like it should be from the center and that like, and that from the side,

00:09:54.940 you would just be totally slamming into things.

00:09:58.020 It's unnatural.

00:09:59.180 Completely.

00:09:59.720 It is crazy.

00:10:01.120 It's weird.

00:10:02.100 In the center.

00:10:02.700 And then guess what?

00:10:03.220 You can fit a person on each side.

00:10:04.900 Yeah.

00:10:05.660 I have a lot of ideas for, oh God, it reminds me.

00:10:09.160 I need someone, I think, reached out, but I really need like a technical drawing type person in for my patents because I have some products that are not even, nothing even splashy about them.

00:10:19.420 They're just the kind of thing where like no one noticed that we needed them and like we need them and I'm just going to do it and I'm going to be rich.

00:10:29.160 Actually, I won't be.

00:10:30.160 The product I deal will immediately take in.

00:10:32.560 That's the thing.

00:10:33.460 If you build a mechanism, it's so hard to say.

00:10:35.340 anyway the ADD um my uncle asked me yesterday if I was gonna bite the bullet get medicated to the

00:10:42.880 doc for ADD yeah oh because I forgot you never made a call oh yeah full diagnosis the whole

00:10:51.220 full Monty honey but not for like 15 years right right and classic ADD fashion I got the number

00:10:57.800 called the woman left a message or almost did and they just never pursued it beyond that but um yeah

00:11:04.560 Yeah. I can feel, listen, the seasons are shifting. Something is in the air. Do you feel this?

00:11:09.380 Well, seasons shifted as of today to me. That's the first day I felt a noticeable anything.

00:11:14.980 The other day I put on a sweater. I couldn't believe it.

00:11:17.400 I cracked open and by open, I mean on my infrared heater outside, let the dust burn off. I've been

00:11:22.460 afraid for two years to turn it back on because I let it get filled with like dust.

00:11:26.280 Wait, the light.

00:11:27.060 No, no. Just my infrared heater brought back. Yeah. Because I want to make sure Boo has somewhere to

00:11:31.460 be cozy right anyway go on no just just the seasons that we need the seasons we're guided

00:11:36.840 by them it actually is essential the weather has to reflect the interior and vice versa it's like

00:11:41.380 it we need change we need to yeah we need to be nudged into new into new moods and realities and

00:11:47.980 i can feel it and i'm doing full new life now ceremony back on armor back on vitamin d vitamin

00:11:54.900 d every day i'm deficient as we all are or whatever oh yeah yeah but then you gotta be

00:12:01.460 spirals, right? Vitamin D. Oh, I'm deficient. Take vitamin D. You have to regularly take

00:12:05.540 like 500 a day, but then like three months you have to go check and make sure you're not overdosing

00:12:10.460 because if you have too much vitamin D, that's a problem.

00:12:12.840 Anything where there's a risk of overdosing is where I go. I guess I'm not getting it

00:12:17.280 because I can't manage, you know, the poison is the dose or whatever they say.

00:12:21.320 Yeah.

00:12:21.920 Remind me to tell you I had an explosive facial with Joanna check. So let's get into that at

00:12:26.320 some point.

00:12:27.220 Remind me, just go right in.

00:12:28.480 I also finally went to Kosha Spa.

00:12:31.200 To what?

00:12:32.000 And I got lymphatic drainage at Ricari.

00:12:35.220 Okay, wait, hang on.

00:12:36.300 Slow down.

00:12:38.180 What's Kosha Spa?

00:12:39.260 Were we offered?

00:12:40.240 No, no.

00:12:41.060 Okay, you're paying out of pocket.

00:12:42.020 Okay.

00:12:42.540 Yeah.

00:12:43.300 Will you go to the Korean Spa next week with me?

00:12:44.980 Five, four, three, two.

00:12:46.680 Decision.

00:12:48.020 Will you go to the Korean Spa with me next week?

00:12:49.980 My worst nightmare decision with a countdown?

00:12:52.660 Please.

00:12:52.940 I mean, yeah, but I'm just trying to think

00:12:55.620 because I'm finally getting back in my routine after, you know.

00:12:58.480 Too bad.

00:12:59.200 The Emmys.

00:12:59.640 You have to go with me.

00:13:00.480 It's essential.

00:13:01.140 I'm just saying, why isn't it the weekend?

00:13:02.620 I'm not good enough for your weekends.

00:13:04.440 The weekends, although it's so crowded.

00:13:06.060 Right, right.

00:13:06.480 You don't want to go to a place like that on the weekend.

00:13:08.340 Interesting, yeah. 0.99

00:13:08.980 Everyone's fucking uncles there. 0.98

00:13:10.400 I want to go somewhere. 1.00

00:13:12.860 I don't know.

00:13:13.700 But yeah, I mean, I'm looking for that kind of experience.

00:13:15.780 Although I did hear about a spa in Palm Springs that's like brand spanking new, I think.

00:13:22.020 And so it's just something nice about when you're like, I'm a third person in this spa.

00:13:26.380 Spend the night?

00:13:27.800 Maybe.

00:13:28.480 Let's reach out.

00:13:29.160 What are they called?

00:13:29.700 Let's go.

00:13:30.520 Listen in, folks.

00:13:31.880 Listen in.

00:13:33.000 But wait.

00:13:34.220 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:34.740 So I've essentially had three premium poog experiences. 1.00

00:13:39.400 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:13:40.220 Like in the sense of, but I paid.

00:13:42.540 It was all, and I'll say it again, pre-Emmy's desperation.

00:13:47.160 Where you go. 0.99

00:13:48.340 You said you got buckle massage?

00:13:50.440 Yeah, kosha.

00:13:51.840 I've been dying for that.

00:13:52.960 What's kosha?

00:13:53.940 Kosha, I've sent you a bunch and I've recommended it on this podcast.

00:13:57.200 People have gone as a result.

00:13:58.160 they got there before even I got there. So Kosha, she has an Instagram account. She's blonde. She

00:14:05.100 does face massage. And then she shows doing it in her studio, Kosha Spa on Instagram. And so I

00:14:13.220 wanted to go in for a very long time. And I went in. It was with a different practitioner. But

00:14:19.200 anyway, I went in there. It was heavenly. I kind of like fell asleep, essentially. I mean,

00:14:24.960 while their thumb is in your cheek.

00:14:27.440 I mean, it's pretty impressive.

00:14:28.940 Loved it.

00:14:29.720 The environment was really quite nice.

00:14:32.180 I mean, which isn't always the case.

00:14:33.340 I don't even mind when the environment is sort of whatever.

00:14:36.180 As long as once you're on the table,

00:14:37.540 but the environment was quite lovely.

00:14:39.780 Loved it.

00:14:40.220 Not much to say.

00:14:41.560 Joanna Cech, who I've followed for years.

00:14:46.140 This is huge.

00:14:47.180 And I was like nervous to meet the facialist 0.55

00:14:50.060 because she's like a celebrity facialist to me.

00:14:52.340 What'd she say?

00:14:52.620 she was just suggestions everything you could hope for oh yeah I got suggestions all right

00:14:58.200 like what like what like what I mean I got major wisdom I mean first of all she was so cool you

00:15:05.200 know what I mean yeah you'll see her you'll go oh okay yeah like there's a a two silver massager

00:15:12.220 like that's very classic her yeah she she just I was immediately at ease because did you find her

00:15:19.720 oh yeah to be clear I know I just yeah yeah yeah yeah okay I was gonna say I feel like I have seen

00:15:25.020 her before yeah yeah and I think she's like does she have thick black rimmed glasses yep yeah and

00:15:33.440 like blonde hair and it's just I was immediately at ease and I get on the table and and this is

00:15:41.480 like a classic thing the whole idea of like the facial before you know it's this thing where it's

00:15:46.420 like two to three days before the Envy's.

00:15:48.180 And so there's this, like, it's like the wedding thing with the facial.

00:15:51.320 It's like, well, normally maybe I'd go after this or that,

00:15:54.920 but this close to the thing, you don't want to do anything too wild.

00:15:59.320 Take a risk.

00:16:00.520 And like, you know, my sort of sense of always wanting everything to be extreme,

00:16:06.640 like I'm almost like, do it.

00:16:08.140 You know what I mean?

00:16:08.740 Like, I'm like, do it.

00:16:09.940 I don't care if like you've, you know, lanced my face.

00:16:13.280 Yeah.

00:16:13.380 Yeah. Like just like almost I'd rather have the injury than the problem, you know, like, yeah, but I trusted her or whatever. And she was like over my face. Like she's like, while she's doing things, she's like almost whispering like extensive scientific knowledge. Okay. Extensive.

00:16:31.720 okay like what like what she was i think against the prescription retinoids okay i love to hear

00:16:40.900 this yeah okay okay by i'm breaking in with a quick thing i got a facial two days ago i talked

00:16:47.060 about retinoids on the podcast how dare i have a podcast even pretending to about yeah it's beauty

00:16:52.820 or wellness yeah but i myself are not on them yeah i made the decision i'm doing it and guess

00:16:57.620 So my derm, my facialist, who I really trust, gave me Avene, the drugstore French brand.

00:17:05.260 Oh my God.

00:17:06.040 Yeah. 0.84

00:17:06.300 Retinal.

00:17:06.940 You know, it's like mixed in with a cream.

00:17:08.660 Non-prescription strength.

00:17:10.120 Yeah.

00:17:10.380 Just chime in to say that.

00:17:11.440 I'm planning on starting tonight.

00:17:12.640 Okay, go.

00:17:13.540 Well, yes, exactly.

00:17:15.080 So she's explaining in this glorious flood of the retinoic acid, you know, what all of

00:17:23.040 these things are made of vitamin A. Vitamin A is the first thing.

00:17:25.040 like vitamin A, when it hits the skin, it turns into the retinoic acid, which, okay, H2O is when

00:17:29.060 you do, you know, like, and that's two molecules of this. And I'm like hoping that she knows how

00:17:35.020 much I'm enjoying it and how much I want more and it doesn't hold back. I'm like loving it.

00:17:38.880 So anyway, she's like the retinoic, whatever, the prescription one, I don't know if she said

00:17:44.100 it was too drying or too irritating or something, but it was like, I believe it. Yeah. Like it's

00:17:48.640 irritating or like, like almost like, so she's, she believes in these other ones. And then the

00:17:53.580 other thing that's really cool about her is she's like she has products and I got like a travel

00:18:00.180 like a really nice set of products in a gorgeous travel bag like that I was like I might use this

00:18:07.340 as a purse and like the only people who will know are the other people like like it's stunning okay

00:18:13.240 yeah anyway but she has products you know but she's like I don't believe in lines I like you 0.72

00:18:19.240 know in a skincare line like i believe in individual products like and she even pushes

00:18:25.180 and recommends things that are not the joanna chick so so at the end she's like she's laying

00:18:33.060 out different things and different things i might be interested in or whatever and she's talking

00:18:36.460 and they're all like all these products are laid out and i'm like well what would it be if i was

00:18:40.460 getting everything or like you know like well what do you have do you have the placenta drops or

00:18:44.460 whatever yeah yeah yeah she's like yeah she goes she goes yeah but it's so expensive yeah and I'm

00:18:50.020 like how much okay and she's like two hundred dollars and I'm like uh for the for the face

00:18:56.600 of my dreams people have gone they go 700 yeah yeah I've and I've had people say four 450 okay

00:19:02.580 for the same amount or less product with a straight face right totally so totally I just

00:19:07.740 thought it was elegant and fucking cool the people's facialist to not just act like you know

00:19:13.880 and then and then she's like and i'm like and what about like the other products the ones you 0.59

00:19:16.740 were recommending like the the vitamin a the particular c like you know her c and she's like

00:19:23.620 oh there's there's a very affordable brand it's called environ and it was like all these environ

00:19:27.900 products this is and i was like ring me up okay ring me and then she wrote she wrote down for me

00:19:34.300 like the plan of like morning night can i just copy your plan i mean i think so but the headlines

00:19:41.520 were, I mean, it was essentially, it was a, oh, so one of the big things was, you know,

00:19:47.460 she has a toner, but a toner, anytime water touches the face, okay, washing, whatever,

00:19:53.900 whatever it is, you know, toner instantly to reset the pH of the skin. That is like, 0.83

00:20:03.020 if you strip away that pH, good luck.

00:20:05.620 Do you mean like once you've, once water's there, you have to immediately apply something

00:20:08.300 else you're saying yeah like like after you shower after you cleanse whatever yeah it's like you

00:20:13.000 strip some of the acid or i think that you actually need it's like the face is supposed to be like

00:20:17.000 slightly acidic or something yeah so you must and which you know makes sense to me i mean i've been

00:20:21.880 using variety of essences and toners and things like that well i'm addicted to now the snail

00:20:26.580 mucin in the spray bottle which one is that i'm on my second bottle it's cos rx i'm trying to

00:20:31.940 picture it it's like 16 bucks and it's i can sort of see it in my head is it actually slightly

00:20:37.940 thinner than the other one that they have in the pump bottle. So here's what's weird. When it hits

00:20:42.560 my face, it feels a little bit thinner, but when I'm looking at the bottle, it's thick in there.

00:20:46.480 So this is a huge question of like, can you force anything through an atomizer, essentially?

00:20:50.680 A spray. I know. Yeah. I mean, I've tried and failed at times. I've gone with something too

00:20:55.280 thick, but. Wow. Congrats. So yeah, I was just, I was really, really just lit up from within

00:21:02.820 with her knowledge and her entire style. And it was just fantastic. So I'm going to be diving

00:21:10.900 deeper into her world. So I do that. I do kosher and I did lymphatic drainage at Rick Harry.

00:21:19.460 Did we talk about that place? I don't think so. Okay. Sounds familiar. I got a wreck from a dear

00:21:25.660 friend. Tracy Anderson. No, it wasn't. It wasn't Tracy. I got a wreck and I was like, here we go.

00:21:33.100 So psychologically, here's what I experienced about red carpet preparation. Okay. I think this

00:21:39.320 is a notion. I think this is interesting. So I felt pressure to, oh God, what am I supposed to

00:21:45.580 be doing? There's all this stuff I'm supposed to be doing to prepare for the red carpet, right?

00:21:49.500 Now, why did I feel that way? Our entire lives, we're reading in the magazines,

00:21:52.980 here's what the stars do to get ready for the red carpet and it's always it's the most extreme and

00:21:58.580 it's suggested as kind of the most extreme like more extreme than even these wedding type things

00:22:02.780 right it's like you want to do what they do because like it's like almost like looking good

00:22:07.280 is their job like everything's on the line so and it's the red carpet it's the it's the biggest deal

00:22:13.540 we have you know and so you're like I was almost like oh shit there's stuff I'm supposed to be 0.80

00:22:18.160 doing? Of course. Like, almost like if I'm not lymphatically drained and everyone else is, 0.97

00:22:23.280 well, I just look like a pile of lymph up there, you know? Yeah. So it was just, you know, it was

00:22:27.960 just like anxiety and like, kind of like, I'm wanting a spa experience and having like a,

00:22:32.160 you know, that'll be fun, whatever. So in I went and it was a humongous machine. I took photos

00:22:37.340 and a huge machine and they move it and they move the lymph all over your body.

00:22:43.040 And I want to hear results. They carve you out and it costs hundreds. It costs hundreds.

00:22:46.520 did you see a difference who knows but it's the one where you get into the white smock

00:22:51.420 oh yeah body stocking how many hundreds i can't totally remember because four it feels like it

00:23:00.080 was at least four because i don't know if that's like a turning point for me if something like

00:23:05.060 still is in the realm of 300 yeah i can almost be like well that's practically like a 200 dinner

00:23:10.200 that i overspent at or whatever yeah and then like but like four you're like i start getting 0.99

00:23:15.340 into like oh shit yeah yeah totally totally fuck you're reminding me of a bill i have to pay i still 0.99

00:23:21.540 get an alert on my phone that says like your account has more than one thousand two hundred 0.99

00:23:25.700 and forty five dollars that i set up like like a million years ago when i first was in new york

00:23:31.220 and i just wanted to make sure i always had my rent money in my account yeah yeah as though that

00:23:36.260 was enough but i was just scared of dipping below yeah anyway i still get it maybe it's time to

00:23:41.760 update it for her. I love that. Do you still have your 1115

00:23:44.200 alarm? Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.

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00:27:19.120 something that i'm ready to really bake for and i don't know if you're interested in this too

00:27:29.760 i think i want a sauna well here we go what do you mean couldn't you it's a huge question

00:27:38.800 because can't i do it in the back patio yeah do you want one yeah sure do well because it's a

00:27:45.240 size of like well there's a few things because here's the fear right so i'd be sacrificing

00:27:50.300 precious outdoor space as we all would be and then do i use it once every two months right

00:27:55.440 like this is the fear or or it's like you use it once every day for two months and then never again

00:28:01.220 exactly one bird drops something on it and it's over um well no i want to get into this hardcore

00:28:10.100 i want to get into this hardcore so obviously if you're getting that you're going to need the cold 0.77

00:28:13.400 plunge next to it we'll see this is where we go this is where we fucking by the way i've seen where 0.82

00:28:17.780 you live you have the space oh yeah so i'm thinking there's a little area that i am like 0.97

00:28:24.500 fuck by the way i'll go further i could technically even fit the cold plunge but then you're looking 0.99

00:28:29.860 at fucking astronomical price so listen i have a fancy friend okay she has an at-home sauna 0.99

00:28:35.420 really nice in my mind i go is it 15k right i was like how much is it i go home look it up 0.99

00:28:42.760 You looked up a specific one?

00:28:43.880 It's under 6K.

00:28:45.200 I want to be clear.

00:28:45.940 It's still very expensive.

00:28:47.020 Did you notice, here's my question.

00:28:49.000 Did you look at the brand that was like,

00:28:50.900 like, did you essentially clock the brand

00:28:52.600 when you were in the friends thing

00:28:53.840 and go home and Google?

00:28:55.060 Or did you ask?

00:28:56.200 No, no, no.

00:28:56.740 I clocked it fully.

00:28:57.960 I was like, huh.

00:28:58.640 And what was the brand?

00:29:00.140 Because I'm looking now. 1.00

00:29:00.700 I think it's Renu, R-E-N. 1.00

00:29:02.160 All right, hang on. 1.00

00:29:02.680 Let me look at this.

00:29:05.260 I'm seeing Renu, Sana.

00:29:07.020 Yeah, Renu, Renu.

00:29:08.000 For one or for two?

00:29:09.460 Is it a social experience?

00:29:10.900 It's got to be for two, right?

00:29:11.920 You got to do two.

00:29:12.760 because otherwise what do you want i want to be in there with my lover i want to be in there with

00:29:15.960 my friends yeah yeah so okay right here okay i'm looking two people we're looking at basically 6k

00:29:20.880 5,854 weird number renew therapy are you looking at the one that looks like a barrel

00:29:25.760 yep the xeno barrel home sauna handsome yep okay hold on yeah honey i'm just laughing like i saw

00:29:33.180 one of these in in my like back patio like in my apartment complex like it would just charge

00:29:38.720 charge people so so here's a question what does it run on okay so here's what the reason why i

00:29:45.080 feel empowered to do this a little confused there's a little area in my backyard that has

00:29:49.060 like a power thing like i think you just plug it into it i don't know these answers okay let's

00:29:53.060 look here all right how much i'm wondering how much and this is i know this is relevant because

00:29:57.460 everyone poses these questions it's like they all want to know you know because by the way you see

00:30:02.900 some cold plungers that look actually i'm gonna head to amazon the cold plunge i think that's where

00:30:08.780 i kind of draw the line i go i don't know another stage in life if money's no object but why is it

00:30:14.000 why do you think the cold plunge is so um cold punch is more expensive well not if you not if 0.99

00:30:19.240 you do it right look at that look at this fucking shit not if you get the barrel the thing is the 0.99

00:30:23.240 plastic barrel yeah but it's like i'm just looking on amazon for fun okay and for real 1.00

00:30:29.620 plunge magic

00:30:31.400 okay it's inflatable so yeah that's like a balloon

00:30:34.500 but $600

00:30:36.300 okay then there seemed like this

00:30:38.040 barrel cold plunge

00:30:40.420 tub ice bath I think that's like

00:30:42.240 something there's a big tub of water and then

00:30:44.360 you drop that thing in and it makes it cold

00:30:46.520 you want to tell me they're not

00:30:48.340 going to give us this

00:30:49.500 come on guys

00:30:51.100 Renu we do a Renu

00:30:54.300 oh Renu

00:30:55.460 Renu is that what they want

00:30:57.420 Yeah, I mean, it must be.

00:30:58.400 Oof, I'm seeing the black cold plunge.

00:31:01.040 Yeah, it's beautiful.

00:31:02.460 With a wooden top.

00:31:03.920 Oh, I also, I went to pause. 1.00

00:31:05.480 Fuck. 1.00

00:31:06.000 After you did. 1.00

00:31:06.940 I went running to pause.

00:31:08.280 This was part of my prep.

00:31:10.520 I went in there, I did a sauna cold plunge.

00:31:12.420 By the way, I might be going to pause tonight.

00:31:14.940 Oh my God.

00:31:15.960 They're open at night?

00:31:17.100 Yeah.

00:31:17.920 You were like the receptionist to HAG and I went in there like-

00:31:20.620 Which location?

00:31:21.440 Like West Hollywood, I guess? 1.00

00:31:22.540 Studio City is the HAG. 0.99

00:31:24.160 Okay, good to know.

00:31:25.500 Cooper, I believe.

00:31:26.440 Shout out.

00:31:26.880 so the cold stoic hysterical that's by the way imagine imagine me thousand dollar yeah me calling

00:31:33.960 pause to make it clear pause is a chain spa experience in los angeles maybe other cities

00:31:39.280 i don't know they do sauna cold plunge float experiences whatever yeah okay they do i got an 0.99

00:31:44.660 iv drip there i felt like i got a shot i got a shot of something b12 in the ass but yeah oh no 0.97

00:31:52.120 it wasn't b12 it was um i forget glutathione yeah maybe but but they you know it ain't cheap 0.98

00:31:59.200 it's nice and i um we'll go there and you know but imagine having it in your home the 0.92

00:32:08.920 the ability to sound a cold plunge shit let's just think about this let me just think about this 0.90

00:32:15.320 think about it i mean well here's the question here's the question right you go we're getting 0.99

00:32:19.880 it we're getting them both i can feel it really yeah because by the way listen to me listen to me

00:32:25.620 let's call it it's almost 20 000 it's almost 20 grand okay they're gonna do it

00:32:33.060 by the way it's actually it has to happen now we need to see if they are currently if they have

00:32:40.200 any partners see what i'm saying do they have a instagram presence instagram i'm sure they do

00:32:46.560 renew god imagine it how often though let's talk about it if there's a sonic cold plunge

00:32:54.000 so first you're doing it yeah constantly yeah and then what happens i think if you can do it

00:33:01.480 three times a week it's worth having in your home how do you feel about that certainly um 0.84

00:33:06.360 my question is this oh my god see i'm going i'm going so fucking i'm going so like cosmic with 0.88

00:33:12.240 this where i'm going if i have this you know everything changes dropping into breathing where 0.92

00:33:17.180 yeah yeah this is gonna be the time that it's just you know returning to the self because i'm going i

00:33:21.140 have to slow down the guides i'm not quiet enough for the guides to enter me for them just give me

00:33:25.220 their messages i'm going way too fast i'm back i've relapsed i have instagram on my good phone 0.97

00:33:30.320 is everyone hearing this i have instagram on my good phone instagram is on my phone i'm fucked 0.96

00:33:34.900 i have to take it off yeah i've been struggling with uh with that a little bit you go in there 0.75

00:33:39.820 scrolling you see other stuff it's over it's hell um they actually have to give us the free systems

00:33:47.240 it's not free we're gonna like this we're gonna pay for i'm so fixated i'm seeing it i'm seeing

00:33:52.640 a life of it so i just want to play this out right because there was a period where i'm trying to

00:33:56.420 think i would do the higher dose blanket yeah yeah we had that going right i still have it

00:34:04.360 right now it's folded up under my bed okay yeah in a moment of chaos of like you know

00:34:09.480 get it out you know yeah yeah yeah yeah and I'm going I could be doing my own sweat in front of

00:34:17.520 even the infrared heater I have I have several okay I'll be doing red light combo plus infrared

00:34:23.520 sweat and then getting a cold tub I could be doing that okay oh god and having you know getting the 0.99

00:34:31.020 results so this is like the classic question this is like buying the fucking drum set the full drum 0.97

00:34:35.720 set hoping that'll force you to you know get get do the drums and then it's like you know no what 0.97

00:34:43.420 you need is like the drum pad and the two sticks and see if you can bring yourself to do it for

00:34:48.640 five minutes you know it's so i'm just now i also believe that purchasing things is one of the only

00:34:56.420 rituals we have left okay and a modern ritual of i don't know you know it's like that's all we have

00:35:03.900 right so purchase and we go i purchased you know like i'm in an energetic exchange i

00:35:09.600 that's me with this lip liner today by the way walking by part of the reason i was late

00:35:14.480 to food today not only is she late she's gone she just disappeared she knocked her camera 0.87

00:35:21.520 she's gone

00:35:22.800 I think she

00:35:24.240 did something with the

00:35:25.640 lip liner

00:35:26.720 I'll take this moment

00:35:31.300 to do a bit of reading 0.60

00:35:32.480 oh she's in the lobby

00:35:33.820 I'm gonna let her in

00:35:34.600 hello 0.95

00:35:36.280 she's back

00:35:37.040 sorry

00:35:37.800 I knocked it

00:35:38.580 so you did it with the lip liner today

00:35:40.020 talk about energetic exchange

00:35:41.460 so today

00:35:42.020 I'm walking by

00:35:42.840 I already started a book

00:35:44.260 oh you were gone

00:35:44.960 alright

00:35:45.360 okay

00:35:45.880 going in

00:35:47.500 the sales experience

00:35:48.780 right we talk about this endlessly

00:35:50.000 where'd you go in

00:35:50.640 I can't see you

00:35:51.220 on the show

00:35:51.500 i went to credo i knew it was credo yeah i don't know why but i just knew you went to credo okay

00:35:56.760 i went into credo i was walking walking i walked by blue mercury because i go i want a new pressed

00:36:00.800 powder i go blue mercury i keep walking i go you have to leave by the way two hags on the street

00:36:06.360 were hags i go oh my god i'm late to go record with jacklyn it was it was you know i go by credo

00:36:11.820 i go you got a minute you know what you want you're not browsing i go in there press powder

00:36:16.220 anyway the point is why do you want press powder shine for my purse shine no I mean but really

00:36:23.220 like you look yourself and go shiny I I get very shiny and I do a loose powder like if I'm going

00:36:29.280 out yeah my makeup loose powder bup bup bup I'll do a setting spray and I'm usually fine but like

00:36:36.360 particularly in the daytime because I'm doing like ilia skin serum I have sunscreen on right

00:36:41.800 quite fucking shiny and i powder it at the end close it down and i want the little compact with

00:36:46.900 the mirror i want to be able to open it look at myself a little on the t on the t zone you know 0.96

00:36:52.400 okay so i'm in there this woman is helping me she is very beautiful she has unbelievable makeup

00:37:02.080 she's fucking young okay she's maybe it's almost uncomfortable like i think she may have been like 0.58

00:37:07.880 23 honestly and I suddenly felt by the way what's uncomfortable because I felt like lecherous or 0.98

00:37:13.700 something oh like there's no way I wasn't behaving in that way but something about it like hey little

00:37:19.960 girl I felt like I was like a perverse old man having like someone sell me a car I mean like

00:37:25.080 yeah yeah like I don't know like I felt like and she she had amazing makeup on yeah well she had 0.74

00:37:34.160 amazing i loved her lip color we're talking about powders and she's kind of like she's like yeah 0.99

00:37:39.720 she's kind of like cool and like kind of checked out and like she like doesn't fucking care and

00:37:42.720 she and like or something which draws me in and i go i'm gonna get her clowning oh yeah by the end 0.53

00:37:49.520 so then what was your first a little like joke you made essentially it was visual i just felt

00:37:55.580 myself just being crazy with my face and she kind of laughed yeah and i go oh yeah so i go i love

00:38:00.920 your lip color and she's like that yeah get ready i'm like what did you what did you use yeah i felt

00:38:05.920 like i love those lamps i don't know it just felt weird she takes me over she's showing me this lip

00:38:10.500 liner very similar to a color i have i'm just like sold right i'm like i'm getting it and it was like

00:38:15.400 it was like because of her she sold it to me she was classic to me not a good salesperson i say

00:38:22.780 that with love she wasn't but or was she because there's nothing worse okay you can relate to this

00:38:28.700 went into a store the other day hate it when they when they they come for you when they come for

00:38:34.040 you i had a full come for which was having an explosive morning with um the community we took

00:38:40.480 this long walk we're going i'm talking to this guy oh you know she makes the best empanadas oh my god

00:38:45.200 they sell out by new and we're having so much fun right by any time limit to give meaning to life

00:38:49.860 yeah going exactly going into stores i'd never been into before having fun this guy goes we just

00:38:55.700 opened a new store brand new it's our grand opening grand opening very stressful time for

00:39:00.700 a shop okay right so you want to show support we're eating we're finishing up our food we'll

00:39:04.560 come in after okay they were on me okay oh no no and they were the guy that had brought you in in

00:39:12.700 the first place right so sweet yeah wish the business the best no i'm just checking that

00:39:17.560 it was the same person okay no no same no and it was like hi from before and they're showing you

00:39:22.300 every item. And it was like samples of this, samples of that. And wait, what kind of store

00:39:25.900 was it? Or you don't want to say because that's fine. Beauty products alongside some home objects.

00:39:31.780 Oh my God. High price point. Okay. A boutique. Boutique. But so, so this woman today with the

00:39:38.240 lip pencil, she kind of seemed a bit inconvenienced by me. It was empty. It was like no one there.

00:39:43.540 Oh, right. We never got to it. Right. Her sales technique was better. Her failed technique worked

00:39:47.380 yeah because I actually and it was aspirational because she had her her makeup was amazing

00:39:52.440 you wanted to impress her or like something and it was like I was buying the limp pencil she had

00:39:57.860 on it was like it worked I was like hot girl like I want it too yeah like it worked on me and I

00:40:05.740 really did feel like standing next to her she was like I like this one she was like yeah I like this

00:40:10.960 one too like like yeah like a darker right and then I was kind of like being like a girl with

00:40:15.900 her I was like yeah like I have one just like that like oh my god yeah yeah over at the checkout 0.97

00:40:20.300 and she was like I love your purse and I was like I'm fucking in bitch yeah and I did it you mean 1.00

00:40:25.340 like she thinks I'm cool now yeah I'm like in her eyes 65 hunchback like right like 0.99

00:40:34.620 lipstick on a pig like like oinking my way back to my car yeah with my by the way it felt so 0.97

00:40:43.480 fucking good. It really worked. I felt transformed by the purchase. I was like in the car, putting 0.99

00:40:49.200 it on in the, in the little mirror. And I was like, I love this color. It fucking worked $25

00:40:55.380 for a new life. I mean, this is, this is part of the trouble at Sephora, right? It's like a 0.99

00:41:00.640 multi-worlds problem. It's like, um, okay. So it's like, so you have Sephora and you have like

00:41:05.820 a lot of brands in there. Right. And you go to one brand's shelf and you've got, you know,

00:41:10.740 what seems like every color lipstick in the world okay yeah and then you walk over to another shelf

00:41:15.420 different brand every color lipstick in the world right so you're going okay could I in theory find

00:41:22.940 this pink over in this other brand right like you're very aware of that fact yeah versus the

00:41:28.560 makeup counter back in the day you had to buy into the brand that you wanted to go look at

00:41:34.020 first right you gotta go you know what I'm going to the Chanel counter right you're like

00:41:38.660 estee lauder oh my god wait sorry okay this is breaking in was that here the whole time

00:41:45.640 no it's not the 7-eleven oh my god okay because i was yearning for a celsius and there weren't 0.99

00:41:52.500 any in the fridge and then one just appeared amazing okay okay so with the people oh shit 0.96

00:42:02.620 God, that does sound good 0.99

00:42:05.280 Damn, doing an ad 0.97

00:42:07.740 Kiwi, guava 1.00

00:42:08.960 By the way, Celsius, to be clear, sent us

00:42:11.480 pallets of Celsius, so shout out

00:42:13.220 Oh yeah, and we got through them and now I'm back

00:42:15.840 Huge shout out, I think there were some new flavors

00:42:17.880 in there

00:42:18.280 Imagine Celsius

00:42:21.500 ex-pug

00:42:32.620 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:42:36.960 It was many and many a year ago, in a kingdom by the sea.

00:42:41.900 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:42:45.740 It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature, and trees, and praying, and drugs.

00:42:50.700 So no, I am not your guru.

00:42:54.480 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

00:42:59.360 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:43:02.160 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:43:05.040 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:43:07.860 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:43:11.200 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:43:14.120 and not the obvious boyfriend?

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00:43:18.720 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97

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00:45:57.800 Wait, hold on, but I'm not done

00:46:05.580 So you go, you know what, I'm going to Chanel

00:46:08.080 Okay, or you go like, well, let's go to the MAC counter

00:46:12.340 And you're like

00:46:13.200 If you could have a beauty, if you could have an endorsement

00:46:14.760 If you could be the face of a beauty brand, what would it be?

00:46:16.640 Makeup brand

00:46:17.180 mine's chanel yours is chanel i don't know i love chanel makeup i just do

00:46:25.240 and i know it might be like made with rat poison when i was a teenager

00:46:29.040 it locked me in it's a teen sprung for this as a teen someone said like that the i forget how

00:46:34.940 because i wasn't i wasn't over there but then i somehow ended up over there and i got i'm not i

00:46:42.020 believe I've talked about this but it was this sort of shimmery kind of brightish blue liquid

00:46:48.760 no oh liquid wand uh eye shadow and we built I say we like I think I was like at the mall with

00:46:57.620 my mom and it was like there was some kind of dance and I'd gotten this gold kind of a burnished

00:47:02.940 gold I want kids I want kids I want kids I want kids I want kids I mean you know just above the

00:47:08.820 and it was very like felt very like like juliette like almost like a lace or some kind of pattern

00:47:15.560 it was just and it was gold and it was like well what's the you know what's the dress and

00:47:19.540 and then it was like well this blue and the idea of blue eyeshadow was always sort of um

00:47:23.720 treated as like kind of like a joke or something you know what i mean like a blue eyeshadow like

00:47:28.440 but i was like no this is like a beautiful blue you know and like with the gold and then i remember

00:47:35.960 also being like talking about the brows and like something with the brow and like they frame the

00:47:40.360 face i feel it was like like an early live experience of the whole like the brows you know

00:47:45.000 if you get the brow right you know everything else falls into place and i i think it's probably one

00:47:49.920 of those things like i never felt so beautiful like meaningfully put it together choice by

00:47:56.580 choice this is actually relevant also to the emmies okay it and and then why is this an issue

00:48:01.780 in Sephora. I want meaningful choices. Otherwise it could be anything, right? Everything has to

00:48:08.420 mean something. And so how do you do it? This is a marketing lesson, folks. Yes. So they used to do

00:48:12.660 it by naming the shades. That was their first attempt. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, and you would,

00:48:20.200 you flip it over, you know, and it's ballet slippers. Okay. Black Honey Clinique. Oh yeah.

00:48:26.280 Black honey. That was, that is Julia Robertson's stepmom. That is her passing the lipstick. She

00:48:34.420 lights up. Mommy gave me that. Entrance into womanhood. The doors have been flung open.

00:48:42.340 She brings down the mirror, puts on the black honey lipstick, that color, let me tell you.

00:48:47.140 And that was something that took off on TikTok or something in the last couple of years. It was

00:48:51.240 like sold out. You couldn't get it because the teenagers, like preteens were going crazy for it.

00:48:54.860 that black honey that had mystique this mystical property to it yeah and then i'm just gonna say

00:49:02.340 this a few months ago i'm standing in a in a half circle i'm beautiful woman okay shocking famous

00:49:10.840 there i said it hugely famous mid conversation pulls out black honey and you could tell you

00:49:18.640 could see it i knew it instantly and i go that's branding did you say black honey or yeah i actually 0.89

00:49:27.080 did close no i know i did i'm gonna look up right now if you can even fucking buy it if it's sold 0.56

00:49:32.120 out in every country sorry to bring up the emmys again okay but i just want to say like it was it 0.72

00:49:37.640 was 25 baby well i i still have a love of clinique like like just a spiritual love of clinique

00:49:45.580 that's genius it's called i'm sorry but they call it almost lipstick yeah that's by the way you can 0.64

00:49:51.040 get this shit on amazon that's crazy you got to be careful i mean that's one i'm not getting on 0.98

00:49:55.800 that's the rumor yeah you want the experience you don't want it floating like wrapped in sexlessness 0.99

00:50:01.540 imagine something more depressing than buying makeup on amazon except sometimes you got to

00:50:06.040 and sometimes sometimes you got to and sometimes the fact that amazon carries something that you

00:50:10.060 didn't think it would. I know. They shock us. I mean, Chris needed a suit. We ordered a suit

00:50:17.020 overnight. No. Yeah. No. On Amazon? Sized. Came. No. He slips it on. Perfect fit. Okay. They had

00:50:24.900 length and, you know, like all the different iterations of what, how it all. That's wild.

00:50:30.740 Men's suits are like chaotic sizing. And I was like, I'm doing it because like. I'm buying

00:50:36.520 buck honey right now keep going i am like king of remember when i got the tuxedo we got the tuxedo

00:50:42.480 last minute before an event and then we got that tailored and he wore it to the emmys okay i i

00:50:47.840 spent weeks doing brick and mortar by the way for his shoes and it was another thing about the

00:50:52.580 meaningful thing okay it was about we're getting okay we're doing the banana republic tux because

00:50:56.520 that's what we have we're gonna find meaning and like we're gonna use this as an opportunity to get

00:51:00.680 an exciting shoe oh yeah see what i mean oh yeah it's like so we get into this idea our friend

00:51:06.880 paul's like look at a pair of ferragamos you know the last 30 years right oh my god so you go okay

00:51:14.280 here we go he's giving me meaning right oh yeah yeah and i'm like oh great we have ferragamos and

00:51:19.300 like whatever and he like sends me a picture of like his like old ferragamos that like you know

00:51:23.360 are still kicking right beautiful and i'm like yes yes yes okay we literally went neiman's sacks

00:51:30.860 We went to those ones in Beverly Hills.

00:51:32.840 Oh, well, honey, I was at the Neiman Marcus.

00:51:35.420 I was at the Neiman Marcus.

00:51:36.560 Oh my God, did I tell you?

00:51:37.480 In four days.

00:51:38.480 When I was talking about the Neiman Marcus in a past episode 0.98

00:51:40.600 and how there was no AC and it was fucking shocking. 0.98

00:51:42.920 Oh yeah. 0.97

00:51:43.300 Because shoes are still $1,600 and there's no AC.

00:51:45.060 Yeah.

00:51:45.900 Somebody who worked at the Nordstrom's DM'd. 1.00

00:51:49.120 She's a hag. 1.00

00:51:50.100 Sorry, that worked at Neiman's. 1.00

00:51:51.220 I can't believe it.

00:51:51.920 What section?

00:51:52.560 Working at the row.

00:51:53.240 I can't believe I didn't meet them.

00:51:54.040 Working at the row.

00:51:55.420 And this is a call out to the row. 0.84

00:51:56.900 We need the row to completely outfit Jacqueline and myself. 0.89

00:51:59.660 thank you with goes without fucking saying yeah okay but wait keep going no so so did you get 0.79

00:52:07.760 the experience multiple trips okay sizes the whole thing what are we getting patent leather 0.93

00:52:12.680 then you go what is a tuxedo you know i start to go like what's the tuxedo what are the shoes all

00:52:17.240 this thing it's the whole thing they don't have the size and so we go down this oh and we've

00:52:21.720 decided like we're spending it like that's going to be the thing we're spending money on $950 for

00:52:27.120 a ferragamo shoe yep it was a it was such an intense like endeavor and like the sizing and

00:52:33.320 this is where brick and mortar fails and and it's like they act like the fact like well we know we

00:52:37.480 can order it to the store and have it here in nine days by the way we know yeah it's like hey you

00:52:43.720 know we can we could order it in your size we can send it to you then i could drive you know over

00:52:49.100 here so whatever oh also actually actually i had an experience where so we went in we're looking

00:52:54.100 around they don't have the thing I've researched it extensively online this is the thing I know

00:52:58.280 exactly what's in stock right at Neiman's or what they have so we get to the store I go up I go

00:53:02.880 looking for the exact one that I'm interested in you know and this woman comes over and is

00:53:07.020 starting to kind of offer help and I'm like thank you okay and it's like do you have this in the

00:53:11.720 size they say no right she goes and checks comes back and says no now it begins this kind of well

00:53:16.820 if you're looking for a nice tuxedo shoe right and then just showing me things and it's like

00:53:20.940 i'm there with a specific thing and i'm not i'm not just uh i'm looking for a tuxedo shoe

00:53:29.760 you know what i mean like yeah of course yeah and then she's sort of pushing this one and it's

00:53:35.020 like and chris is like like i forget what chris said but basically i was like well i'm not i'm

00:53:39.020 not ready okay i was like i was like i'm not ready and like it was like this confusing thing like

00:53:43.800 and i just like like i was like i was like i just i need a break or something i'm like i just need

00:53:50.100 to like walk around and think we left we ended up coming back two hours later okay and I had to go

00:53:55.660 in with a fresh attitude because I was like you know she might not like me from earlier went in

00:54:01.020 and we're like all right let's look around maybe we can they don't have that but we need something

00:54:06.200 fast now I will go to the last minute you know and you know Chris is like four days out and he's

00:54:12.900 like I don't know shoes he's like kind of freaked you know what I mean like I just will crank it to

00:54:16.560 point of whatever yeah yeah but oh my god let's look at some other brands like we're springing 1.00

00:54:21.440 for a shoe we're like yeah like let's see what else is here and then we find some ysl shoes

00:54:26.800 okay and we're like oh we're like that's pretty you know and i'm like that's that's pretty right

00:54:31.800 and like into it and the whole thing tries it on and i start sort of selling myself on what

00:54:36.440 whatever like i'm i'm like the ferragamo like i moved on whatever become so intense on these

00:54:42.640 laurent okay and then we get him and it's a whole thing with the sizing that she's going to send us

00:54:47.700 the the bigger size to our home but we're going to bring home the one that's smaller in case blah

00:54:52.000 blah whatever we do the whole thing you know we're going to the enemies oh you know and then and then

00:54:57.580 yeah yeah and then I get home and my stomach flies into a knot okay no because and I send a picture

00:55:04.460 to Paul right my friend and I go Paul like the Ferragamos fell apart on us we got YSL I go tell

00:55:11.280 me is the quality is the quality enough okay because i i'd forgotten like it wasn't just like

00:55:17.800 oh we're getting no it's about the last forever and so i go oh my god and then i googled the

00:55:23.540 quality of laurent laurent shoes you know and like you know you see some stuff and you just don't

00:55:27.100 know whatever and then like he's not replying right away i'm like panicking oh no yeah and

00:55:32.180 then like later we got on he's like what i didn't see it and i'm like okay paul i'm like we got

00:55:36.800 laurent and i'm like just is that good quality he's like yeah i'm like no but paul like the

00:55:42.280 whole idea was like the ferragamo and the quality like is it good or is it just like one of those

00:55:46.580 things where they make it cheap and they you know put the name laurent on it i started panicking

00:55:50.100 going italy is the only place that can make a shoe yeah you're not wrong but i go you know i

00:55:55.640 was like and he's like if ferragamo is an a it's an a minus but it is definitely an a minus that

00:56:05.300 was his okay and i i breathed but then it came it came around to them not being comfortable they're

00:56:12.660 so pointy the whole thing we go back on the hunt for the ferragamos we decide we want a velvet

00:56:17.680 ferragamos slipper okay hang on hang on thousands of dollars of shoes are sitting in the house

00:56:23.060 no no no wait wait keep going this is amazing it's slowly coming back back you want a ferragamo

00:56:28.980 slipper you're saying so we decide ferragamo and we decide i go chris would you be excited about

00:56:34.920 because he wasn't that excited about the Laurent technically and he was excited that it was a nice

00:56:39.240 shoe but it wasn't like inherently loving the shoe and I was on this patent leather kick because

00:56:44.360 I was and then I'm reading oh velvet slippers a tuxedo a nice tuxedo look and his eyes lit up

00:56:50.760 okay and I was like I was like you like this and I found the most beautiful the most beautiful

00:56:56.060 velvet slipper from Ferragamo I was like that's the one I knew that's the one yeah okay and so

00:57:02.820 then it becomes a whole hunting for the size the whole thing it's not I order the size overnight

00:57:07.900 from Bergdorf's forget to click the final button the next morning I'm going oh god okay I click it 0.88

00:57:13.220 then it's like it'll come Sunday morning the day of the Emmys right I go fuck okay so we got that 0.86

00:57:17.780 coming we got the Laurent sitting there you know this is like talk about like a credit card thing 0.91

00:57:21.920 and just being like yeah like is it real and then and they're not going to come in time whole thing

00:57:26.960 we get this other one it's it's the wrong size I can't even remember there were so many trips

00:57:30.980 It all comes down to a half hour before we are leaving for the Emmys.

00:57:37.480 No, no.

00:57:39.220 Okay, a half hour before leaving for the Emmys.

00:57:41.420 The pair in the correct size is located at Nordstrom, I think.

00:57:47.600 Chris is showered.

00:57:48.840 And I go, Chris, it's there.

00:57:51.360 I go, Chris.

00:57:53.380 Now, can you imagine the stakes headed in the other direction?

00:57:56.600 No, no.

00:57:57.600 Okay.

00:57:58.180 The car is going to be there.

00:57:59.140 They come 15 minutes early.

00:58:00.120 like you know okay and he's like i'll do it like knowing the risks if i still want it to be done

00:58:06.680 he's like he's like you know i'll do it yeah i'm like uber there's no time for parking okay oh my

00:58:12.000 god he goes he gets back in time the most beautiful ferragamo flippers we're gonna need

00:58:20.660 pictures of them on the gram slips them on and off we go oh that's fun i'll have to post them

00:58:28.640 they're so beautiful and now like our life is devoted to returns our life is completely going

00:58:34.500 to be held so to returning what to the laurel and then the can you wear them out so you're fine

00:58:40.760 you don't wear them oh yeah no they're only tried on in the house amazing i think we we've got three

00:58:45.540 pairs going back on the uh going back on the amex three pairs going back yeah there was because

00:58:50.420 there was an initial it's like oh and then you i'm sorry like like the story is both like i can't

00:58:56.960 even apologize for story because like it actually is like to me kind of like it is poog you know

00:59:03.280 what I mean yeah like yeah yeah but like of course so then like because there's a ADD like

00:59:08.880 the hyper focus when I'm able to achieve if you just like leave me be when I'm able to achieve

00:59:14.000 in mere minutes with the flying brain that's coming up with creative options it's like amazing

00:59:20.360 and that's how I pull it out that's how I like research yeah and I was trying to like say to

00:59:24.300 Chris, like, you don't understand like the levels of research I've done, like speedy research. Like

00:59:27.600 I know the stock at every store in this country, like, you know, like every shoe, like it's, it's 0.99

00:59:32.540 like, and then, and then we realized like, oh fuck, he doesn't have a shoe to go with the suit 0.98

00:59:38.100 I got on Amazon. I find an offer up the correct size of a Ferragamo loafer for $70 from a doctor 0.99

00:59:46.220 in the hills. Okay. No. Yes. Okay. And I, I'm like, like, do you think they could be worn out

00:59:52.880 tonight? Like, are they spiffy enough to be worn out tonight? It's like 70 bucks or something.

00:59:56.720 And he's like, absolutely. Okay. He's like, they're the most comfortable shoes I've ever

00:59:59.920 worn. Okay. Whatever. What happened? I sent an Uber. Okay. I go, I'll Venmo you now. I don't

01:00:06.200 care. Like, like, I'm not afraid. I'll take the risk. You know what I mean? Like before I get

01:00:09.280 them in hand, I sent an Uber package, whatever. They scoop them up. They drop them off. Chris

01:00:14.760 slides his feet into them. And out we go. With a suit from Amazon. This was, you know, like a night

01:00:20.660 before thing so now we got two ferragamas one used for like 70 bucks yeah that's amazing and

01:00:29.320 then the full price I don't know I just like it was it was amazing you can get some amazing I'll

01:00:38.160 just say I love a Manolo Blahnik I have a few pairs of Manolos I've never paid full price for

01:00:46.760 a manolo now how are the bottoms when you get them good and guess what i do resole okay well

01:00:53.620 that's what i was gonna say how much not a lot right no it is no no very reasonable it depends

01:01:00.080 yeah i have a pair of precious manolas that i'm actually gonna take to the because i have a

01:01:05.280 really fancy shoe guy who will basically take a shoe it's like a brand new shoe 0.98

01:01:10.280 and he's fucking expensive 0.96

01:01:12.600 meaning 100 bucks maybe 0.98

01:01:14.300 okay redoing it all

01:01:16.300 so your shoe better be less than that but almost

01:01:18.380 yeah so it can be done

01:01:20.300 so you could find a

01:01:22.300 because I feel like the bottoms

01:01:23.960 are the part that bums me out

01:01:26.880 yes of course

01:01:27.800 the actual leather

01:01:30.540 of the top is going to be fine

01:01:31.940 it's like the bottom is what

01:01:34.620 makes you feel like it's an old pair of shoes

01:01:36.400 it takes a beating yeah

01:01:37.460 totally so you get a so you find like a beat-up pair and you bring it to a cobbler not a beat-up

01:01:43.480 pair even you can find listen you know you know what style you want you know what size

01:01:47.620 you can find these shoes online they're they're fine and by some of them i'm not saying they're

01:01:51.540 cheap you might still be spending 200 300 but it's a manola and it's in totally fine quality

01:01:58.380 i was laughing like i had a moment like where i see us from the outside just like

01:02:03.980 into two microphones. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're paying 300, but I mean,

01:02:08.420 it's a Manolo. For Christ's sake. No, I mean, I stand by it. It's 25 minutes on going to shoes

01:02:15.520 with Neiman. I know, I know. I love it. I absolutely, I love it. I felt like a shiver

01:02:21.720 of excitement as you said it. Okay. So I've never had a pair of Manolos, although it's very hard

01:02:28.100 for me to buy. I mean, that would be the gateway and I think would be the used pair. But again,

01:02:32.960 it's like well bang a brand new listen I've paid in a fetishistic way once that was very important

01:02:39.420 to me I feel like we talked about this I bought myself Versace blue sandals Prada yeah exactly

01:02:44.380 my Prada my Prada blues isn't it like that I remember too like that's how it is yeah and the

01:02:50.100 joy they bring me I think about them every time I walk through this shoe I go I go but Kate went

01:02:54.400 for it with those those ones I go but I'm walking around I go am I just gonna spot something like

01:02:58.940 again it's like how do i if i'm gonna go for it how do i seduce myself into the purchase like

01:03:05.880 am i going like act yeah but is it like i could get into the spirit of i'm gonna go to like

01:03:12.120 whatever is the greatest store and what's gonna be like cool about it is that i just sort of

01:03:17.140 spot something i like i like those in yellow please you know yeah to be in that space that

01:03:22.400 takes a lot i think i'm just rubbing this over my face it's like the glowing thing i don't really

01:03:27.960 I know I'm doing it, but.

01:03:28.940 Yeah, it's makeup.

01:03:30.200 But wait, I said, I said not to bring up the Emmys again, but then I never said the thing.

01:03:34.060 It's fine.

01:03:34.940 Which is?

01:03:35.960 I just want to say like, it was kind of incredible.

01:03:38.020 Okay.

01:03:38.200 Because I'm standing there and I go, oh my, because it's sort of this waiting around period

01:03:42.340 before going in.

01:03:43.820 Oh, uh-huh.

01:03:44.380 Uh-huh.

01:03:44.800 Like on the red carpet that isn't like, they're not photographing you.

01:03:49.180 You're just standing there.

01:03:50.120 You know what I mean?

01:03:50.680 Yeah.

01:03:51.180 So it's like, kind of like waiting and just like looking around.

01:03:53.920 and I go I should go live for the hags okay but it all feels very high stakes to me okay

01:04:01.780 now like I feel like I'm in a military complex like I feel like I am like almost like is it

01:04:08.420 even legal you know like right it all feels so like like intense and serious like you know like

01:04:14.400 it's like it actually feels like this is the most important event in the entire world you know

01:04:19.160 so I'm like I think I could do it I'm like and then I click over and I hit go live right

01:04:25.240 I don't say anything I don't even turn the camera like up like I kind of like it was like I was like 0.90

01:04:31.760 a spy for the hags yeah I just went I just went silent and was like in my mind it was like the 0.99

01:04:38.960 hags were like my best friends okay and they're like all I have to do is like call them I don't 0.98

01:04:44.160 have to say shit and they they know where I am and they know what's happening yeah and they get 0.97

01:04:48.100 like peek around and then I was like okay okay gotta go and it was pretty um spectacular that 0.99

01:04:54.320 was a real bonding with the hags so sad I missed it and then I didn't post it I just oh damn it's

01:05:00.580 just um it's to the ether no but I think it's archived somewhere if I want to like like check 0.78

01:05:04.540 it out hmm unbelievable well I we're gonna get a renew renew is going to outfit us renew and the

01:05:15.200 grow together at last well we get the cameras set up i think every episode of poog could be

01:05:20.560 a fashion demonstration absolutely imagine clamoring people clamoring brands designers

01:05:28.220 clamoring to send the outfit of the week oh wow i really missed you really missed poog

01:05:34.160 i want to thank everyone who um is still here um hanging on and i'm still working on that

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