Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - You’re Pixelated as Usual

00:00:00.000 two best friends both alike in dignity nurturing phantoms and courting the muse

00:00:07.280 the hag divines when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves

00:00:13.300 to seek but never to find it was berlant and novak the whole time

00:00:17.960 hello hello so we might have to get some kind of blur function if these are going to go to um

00:00:27.040 instagram before my i have a massive skin i'm always shocked the videos of myself and poog i'm

00:00:37.800 like that is not me i have been telling myself and i'm anytime there's something i'm telling

00:00:44.600 myself over and over again neurotically not unlike you with paris is locked in there's something that

00:00:50.020 like remember when i said paris is locked in for you and you kept repeating it because

00:00:52.740 so yeah like anytime you have an idea that is like saving you you sometimes like tell people

00:00:57.580 you're in trouble i don't mean you one over and over again yeah yeah you're in trouble like i've

00:01:02.460 probably told the people this i mean these droppers it's cool that we're ugly yes okay

00:01:06.620 like yeah i agree that specifically like aren't we like maybe like the coolest girls on the

00:01:11.500 internet okay by being like you know within our own spectrum of beauty the scrappy nature of this

00:01:19.680 whole production is inherently punk because anyone else with even an ounce more business sense

00:01:24.860 would be probably living off poog and have like crazy partnerships and we just can't get it 0.99

00:01:31.320 together and that's why we can still be artists because it's such a bizarre like road show act

00:01:38.420 wait i do have breaking news yeah that the owners of via carota and esoti as well as commerce in 0.53

00:01:45.720 yeah yeah i'm scared are married lesbians wait and they always have been yeah wait i thought

00:01:53.760 that was known that's not news i didn't know that no it's breaking news to me oh it's breaking news 0.90

00:01:59.720 to my personal yeah my personal life but did you know they were connected in the in the cooking

00:02:04.180 world i didn't know who these people were i go i go oh i'm at via corona oh i'm at you sody

00:02:09.740 see that's exactly the kind of info i would think you would have i know that's why i'm shocked

00:02:14.320 commerce in peace alino like you're telling me john early never know this because no one cares

00:02:20.980 about lesbians and this should be front page of the news every day but no one cares so this is a

00:02:26.580 direct plea to rita sody and jody williams first of all congratulations on your lives self-taught

00:02:32.140 chefs i'm seeing um and i would love to be brought in and i would love to be upstate at your home

00:02:37.480 for various functions and i would love to be a part of the culture that you've been cultivating

00:02:42.580 for years I spent all of my money at Via Corotta and Ultra Paradiso not them but I was gonna say

00:02:53.240 but Via Via was during my get on your knees run where I thought I was you know I thought I was

00:03:03.100 making money i guess um but boy was it dreamy and that's where i really got my habit of brazenly

00:03:13.960 ordering margaritas in italian restaurants without shame oh yeah no shame i'm like take me back wait

00:03:21.480 i have so much i have so much to cover by the way i gotta say this is feeling pretty good this is

00:03:26.680 amazing just found this in a friend's home that's a classic face gym lymph roller right

00:03:31.940 oh that's something else which i always thought had something more you must have paid for that

00:03:37.200 out of pocket something about this that looks like it's like it's got technology in there but i i

00:03:42.760 think it's just design unless it is something i feel like i might have once heard from a friend

00:03:47.380 that it had something to do with like the sun's rays were getting in there can't be watch me live

00:03:54.020 try to like move the face into well vibration plate i'm seeing because as you know i bought

00:04:01.660 a vibration plate i've been gone i'm kind of back on it did 10 minutes yesterday but that moving

00:04:06.100 lymph they say you know because rebounding the little trampoline they're like oh this is great

00:04:10.680 yeah but that if that hurts your knees or whatever a vibration plate will also give you the benefits

00:04:15.600 right well there was some stuff where i think there was some conversation about like careful

00:04:21.080 like rebounding will cause the pelvic floor to fall right out of your totally i believe it

00:04:27.500 i believe it i don't know if i believe it i guess you know in that trampolines don't exist in

00:04:33.520 nature maybe right right but jumping on the ground has always been used to achieve euphoric state

00:04:39.940 and also my mother made an announcement to me that md solar science what is just like

00:04:47.560 she's just good or bad i can't even hang i'm like oh good good just okay good she is really locked

00:04:53.580 in on that permanently folks it's been a few years but she's using the mattifying sunscreen

00:04:57.680 yeah i gotta order by the way i gotta order some of that i know i've gone through so many tubes of

00:05:02.420 that it's the classic thing we talk about you forget about something then it goes away i know

00:05:05.880 and then you're like i mean these grabbers using as a there's something about these grabbers i just

00:05:12.240 want to say real quick that the face grabbers they're not it's different than the roller and

00:05:17.640 it's different it actually and it's not just two balls it's it's you could feel it when you pull

00:05:23.020 it this way it rolls it it really grabs it like it actually grabs you see how it's grabbing like

00:05:28.740 look yeah it grabs the skin wait but there's something i wanted to tell you about lymph oh

00:05:32.980 but bouncing on the ground this idea of um impact being good for the bones the bones growing in

00:05:39.340 strength and response I'm sure I've brought this up every two months yes but and then like you know

00:05:44.980 tap tap tap on the bones they respond and they strengthen they need some of the intensity and

00:05:52.400 we need the listen I'm I'm on a full this is a reminder to this is a anyone here who so a week

00:05:59.100 ago I was I felt completely immobile unable to work out or anything whatever and I'm here to say

00:06:07.240 first of all all you need to do is take a walk no not again but i'm always disappointed to hear

00:06:13.980 again with the walk

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00:07:48.900 jacqueline i'm like you guess what i've been doing look what's on my hand what i'm you look

00:08:00.440 look what's on my hand wait wait wait wait you got small hold on you flew away look what's on

00:08:05.720 your hand what's on my hand ring i'm back oh my god no wait you had the worry around did you sign

00:08:12.880 up i was just looking this morning again six dollars a month six dollars a month and i have

00:08:18.380 to say i'm so proud of you thank you i'm into it as um i listen i can't help but i'm really curious

00:08:24.820 about the sleep diagnostics and i'm really trying to hit 10 000 steps i know and then there was this

00:08:30.420 crazy thing happened where i was on the couch wearing my aura ring and it was like i got

00:08:34.720 i got a stressful phone call and then i would just after the phone call i was looking at my 0.85

00:08:39.760 aura ring and it goes stress detected like 12 minutes ago literally the fucking second i got 0.85

00:08:45.260 the phone call well you know it's crazy when i used to do the glucose monitor and i don't want 0.98

00:08:49.560 to hear any fucking shit about it from anybody okay it'd be like you go on stage literally go 0.97

00:08:55.080 on stage later it's like oh i walked on stage glucose spikes because it's like flooding my 1.00

00:09:00.320 blood the sugar of the crowd to give me yeah and then wait i was just gonna write something down

00:09:05.980 about 10 000 steps imagine me because i was just thinking here's the thought process god writing

00:09:13.740 things down could be huge right like to remember later in the conversation and then i thought and

00:09:19.000 then i went to like i require writing things down and then i went to like the pain of if i lived in

00:09:23.880 a pre like where you could only do blood on the cave wall the chaos i would be living in your own

00:09:29.820 period your own period blood once a month you get to write a couple things down you have to save it

00:09:34.060 all month and then be like what was it that's beautiful right particularly because wait this

00:09:38.880 is huge maybe that is what we're meant to do writing the true writing is the blood on the 0.99

00:09:44.500 wall the blood on the wall of you know a woman wrote the bible you know about this a fucking 0.98

00:09:49.860 broad wrote it all the obsession with the bible this girl married that guy and this happened and 0.99

00:09:54.280 they had some broad which some cluck clucking in the hen house is the bible are you talking about

00:10:00.780 old testament new testament yeah the stuff of like so-and-so married so-and-so and they had

00:10:06.780 so-and-so and the hula hat and the hehehe and they had not to be you know whatever but i forgot

00:10:11.620 who wrote down the old testament all i know and again i know nothing because the new one is is 0.63

00:10:17.860 all disciples of jesus correct right right it's all secondhand whatever the old one was a freaking

00:10:24.460 girl interesting that's what some people um are into and i could go deeper but i lack the knowledge

00:10:31.020 i have to write that one down look it up if you need to okay so my aura ring has popped off wait

00:10:36.140 But 10,000 steps, wouldn't it be horrible if research came out in, you know, however many

00:10:41.020 years, right?

00:10:42.180 That actually 11,000 was what was needed and anything below 11,000 had no effect.

00:10:48.820 It was useless.

00:10:49.960 They've actually found research points to a different trend that actually 10,000 is

00:10:54.280 probably a little more than, if you're talking about just like what to, just for maintenance

00:10:57.560 or something, they're saying that's probably actually less than 10,000 is still okay.

00:11:02.100 Let's see what I've walked today.

00:11:04.240 Oh my God.

00:11:05.000 i can see how people go crazy with this though and they like data yeah like because i'm just

00:11:10.080 kind of dipping in yeah but then guess what i also got wait i have an at-home health system

00:11:15.240 i'm developing a health so i've got the vibration plate i've got the high zoo high zoo and guess

00:11:21.480 what i've added wait let me guess is it in the realm of i can't remember if i mentioned health

00:11:26.560 wait it is is it in the realm of is it tech or is it analog somewhere in between all right but

00:11:32.800 more analog more analog instapot well by the way that did arrive two days ago and i'm planning on

00:11:39.000 trying it out tonight that's huge i just ordered an instant pot to the location i'm staying in

00:11:45.580 because my new thing this is quintessential me right this is quintessential me logic

00:11:51.000 and to be clear i mean good logic that others have ignored i do not i and i'm not a fan of

00:11:57.720 this whole like you know girl logic or whatever okay you know what i mean girl math and like

00:12:04.060 whatever this whole anyway point is point is point is i mean i like spiritual logic i like

00:12:09.540 emotional logic but you know own it as such right anyway point is point is i've been ordering in

00:12:14.660 from this plant-based mexican ha ha ha ha place right i'm telling you the order you say ha ha ha

00:12:20.260 ha ha because that's what it's called yeah i mean j a j a j a j a yeah yeah yeah yeah i got it i

00:12:26.360 I figured that's what you were saying, but I had to be sure.

00:12:28.280 Yeah, understandably.

00:12:29.520 And I'm telling you, when I order what I really want, like the full deal,

00:12:33.400 which kind of includes like a secondary meal for later.

00:12:36.180 It's like $100.

00:12:36.820 You walk me through the order.

00:12:37.600 It's like $100.

00:12:38.520 Of course.

00:12:39.180 It's $100.

00:12:40.060 It seems low for two people.

00:12:41.480 I've been getting basically like these nachos because, you know, I love them.

00:12:46.200 And as kind of this like fun lunch.

00:12:48.400 And then I've been getting this secondary salad that has these chickpeas.

00:12:53.160 it's like a big lightly I guess blanched broccoli and just this really dense whatever kind of salad

00:13:01.440 and then I'm trying to think oh and then I like to get a side of big ass side of salsa and then

00:13:06.860 times two me and Chris so you do that a couple days in a row and then you see instant pot is

00:13:14.540 on sale or whatever the one you know 100 bucks and I'm going if I'm at a place for two days

00:13:20.380 it actually saves me money to order an instant pot just for that trip if i were to a hotel and

00:13:26.080 i was willing to plug it in you know you know that's not allowed but if i were to a hotel for

00:13:29.680 three days it's like not allowed to plug in at a hotel they don't want you with cooking plates

00:13:35.920 in hotels right right right you know sure sure you can't bring your little hot plate

00:13:40.820 you can't be roasting you can't do corn on the cob i heard another thing that was like

00:13:46.600 the amount of underwear left in the coffee filters of hotel coffee machines i hope no they

00:13:51.740 can't be doing it with nespresso maybe that's part of the change because it's too small that's old

00:13:55.400 school although honestly they kind of could do it in espresso because it's really the dead center

00:14:00.380 of the underwear you're you're worried about cleaning isn't it oh jesus by the way back on

00:14:06.200 hotels and coffee i'm i called a hotel recently looking which hotel should i stay at i call

00:14:12.860 hi can you tell me what the in-room coffee situation is there's instant coffee yeah yeah

00:14:18.320 but we have coffee in the lobby this again this is different from celebration is this different

00:14:23.000 this is different this is a new time and then and then i said what about do you have room service

00:14:28.640 they have dinner only between 4 and 6 30 p.m probably and then they go like we can't technically

00:14:36.440 bring it up to the room shoot i didn't understand wow needless to say i booked elsewhere needless

00:14:41.480 to say I booked elsewhere. Huge phrase, actually. Loving that for the t-shirt when those roll out,

00:14:49.260 everyone. Needless to say, I booked elsewhere. Wait, you didn't guess what I bought. Oh yeah,

00:14:53.940 thank you. For my at-home health life. Okay, hold on. So it was sort of- I'll give you a hint,

00:14:57.240 10,000 steps. I was just about to say, you're going to give me a hint that's too obvious.

00:15:01.140 People always do this. Wait, wait, but what was it? My hint? Yeah, the hint. That I'm trying to

00:15:05.840 get 10,000 steps a day. It's related to that, right? Oh wait, I think I know. Oh no, I don't

00:15:10.280 know because this is definitely analog rucking actually i have one of those i got a weighted

00:15:14.720 vest we'll talk about rucking soon it's only 10 pounds though and i kind of feel like i barely

00:15:19.100 feel it i think it's that's the idea you're not like weight lifting although i was lifting weights

00:15:24.580 the other day instant muscle and um i mean it looks you're pixelated as usual but by the way

00:15:31.600 i'm sorry i'm thinking only in t-shirts but you're pixelated as usual makes me laugh as

00:15:38.680 that's funny both the podcast and life i agree so it's a stepper i couldn't wait anymore sorry

00:15:46.980 thank you what it's a little stepper oh i think you talked about this like a little treadmill

00:15:51.980 i get half off if you want one i can get send you a promo you'll get a half off great thank

00:15:57.040 you for jumping to it's not expensive it's like 100 bucks a stepper you you mean like one of those 0.83

00:16:02.440 walking desk kind of things so you don't know i don't what the fuck do you mean it's this 0.92

00:16:09.440 oh wait i think i know what it is no hysterical okay my dad my dad went through a period with 0.85

00:16:17.420 those fitly i don't know why it's so funny but it is it is funny he went through a period with

00:16:23.060 that maybe he had an injury or something i was stepping watching couples therapy okay is it i

00:16:28.680 I was like, well, I'm 60.

00:16:30.000 Sorry about all the noise, folks.

00:16:31.160 No.

00:16:31.380 I'm just trying to find a pen.

00:16:32.780 It's not, we can't, we can't, we can't.

00:16:36.020 All right, so give us your entire thing.

00:16:39.500 So you've got, right now, you've got a vibration.

00:16:41.440 I've got the vibration plate.

00:16:43.620 I've got the high zoo.

00:16:45.100 Okay.

00:16:47.100 You've got stepper.

00:16:49.240 So this is a real don't need to leave the house kind of plan, right?

00:16:53.000 And then, as you know, we have the LED light path.

00:16:55.620 We've got the Lima.

00:16:56.460 so we've got kind of the whole overall light path not to mention the higher dose sauna blanket but

00:17:02.260 really but these items these are the new items yeah yeah no i'm just talking about the new

00:17:06.780 and this is just recommitment to and listen the stepper so i know it sounds but then i got my

00:17:14.340 head to go you hear this 10 000 steps a day you've been hearing this forever right and i was like

00:17:17.640 and i thought well what what if instead of because i go what if i actually tried to let's see how

00:17:23.220 many steps i have today what if i actually tried to hit that um god listen to me guys turn off the

00:17:28.420 show if you're listening there are times where i'm at 4 600 steps today what i'm probably because

00:17:34.700 all i did was go to the cafe where i bounce my legs and they say that you know that's good too

00:17:42.360 wait hold on should i look at what mine are because because i've walked nowhere i've walked

00:17:46.980 to the cafe and back today. Ready? Yeah. It's going to be low. Okay. Thousand, a thousand

00:17:56.920 47. Oh, that's not bad. Jacqueline, I did hot yoga. Oh wow. Really? And then I, okay, guys,

00:18:02.440 this is what happened to me, right? I did hot yoga and then I bought the new, the like new

00:18:07.040 client special, $80 for unlimited for a month. And I go, well, here we go. Here we go. Cause

00:18:11.360 first of all, the new client specials, I just want to say genius. They're geniuses. They get

00:18:16.560 i've paid i've continued on they work they are correct to do it when did i go to yoga

00:18:22.820 two weeks ago so tell me everything did you think about me in warrior yes i did i absolutely did

00:18:28.740 were you like she's right i did yoga a week ago i haven't been back it's not that bad and so much

00:18:33.340 happened in the last week so i'm fine what about chair pose let's go through every yoga position

00:18:38.280 i genuinely think this is interesting thoughts on on chair pose what is that ukatasana i feel

00:18:44.120 like it is oh i don't know you're you're the yoga master i haven't done yoga in ages except for a

00:18:49.140 couple times yeah but you're still the master i'll take it you know what i don't like in yoga and

00:18:54.020 immediately i was reminded of this so this is hot yoga which i like but so get in there in the room

00:18:59.460 it was a nice studio not too crowded thank god not crowded at all i'd say 9 a.m what am i pregnant

00:19:06.140 with six kids it's crazy to be at 9 a.m yoga anyway although i guess six o'clock is when they're real

00:19:11.840 or so anything below nine is impressive actually i guess nine o'clock is like the god i want to be

00:19:15.500 one of those people one of the 6 a.m i know so can you imagine i just i don't know okay so when

00:19:21.400 you eat dinner at midnight it's tough all right so i'm down there on my back right in corpse pose

00:19:28.800 waiting for the class to start and then i'm hearing this it's always a man sorry it's always a man 0.99

00:19:33.820 what heavy breathing deep really taking up space with his breath like can you fucking keep it down 0.97

00:19:47.040 i mean they do a lot of time encourage i know i know i just find it so fucking i don't like it 0.91

00:19:56.220 no and it and i know that we're all breathing in the room but it just conjures aerosols i'm like 0.95

00:20:01.940 so you're aerosolizing and then also it's just i don't know suddenly i'm like so now i'm like

00:20:07.640 making out with you against my will i think yoga i got an idea you'll like this one yoga studio

00:20:13.920 right in front or around your mat or maybe it's a no mat studio it's a different kind of system

00:20:20.060 there's a vacuum vent that's essentially sucking air straight down like oh you know what i just

00:20:28.160 invented on my own i invented that thing in planes that's above you basically air distribution

00:20:33.820 happening right under your own mat oh that would be smart that would be smart so wait i just want 0.67

00:20:40.820 to go through the positions i know it's stupid but honestly give it to me so chaturanga you know 0.98

00:20:45.240 are you like are you able to do a goddamn push-up you probably are i find it quite challenging i can 0.98

00:20:49.980 do like three it escapes me it's hard push-ups are fucking hard it's like i'm but by the way i'm 1.00

00:20:56.940 I feel like I'm having a revolution because I am trying to wake up my ass. 0.99

00:21:00.060 My ass muscles get out of the quads. 1.00

00:21:02.360 You're trying to wake up your ass muscles as usual. 1.00

00:21:04.660 New ass by January. 1.00

00:21:06.020 January 2006. 0.99

00:21:08.080 Yeah.

00:21:08.680 And the weighted vest.

00:21:09.860 That's in the.

00:21:10.300 So I've got the weighted vest.

00:21:11.360 I've got the stepper.

00:21:12.920 I could do the weighted vest at home with the stepper while watching couples therapy.

00:21:16.720 Interesting.

00:21:17.280 Do you watch couples therapy?

00:21:18.460 No.

00:21:19.240 It's astonishing. 1.00

00:21:20.060 You love that shit. 1.00

00:21:21.180 Like, what is that, HBO? 1.00

00:21:22.040 Fucking love it. 0.99

00:21:23.260 You'd think so. 0.99

00:21:24.220 Very good.

00:21:24.800 i'm sure hbo passed and they're regretting it maybe they didn't pass it's showtime now paramount

00:21:30.480 there's a new season it's exquisite it's unbelievable people stay in i don't usually

00:21:35.960 want to watch those things but i often resist reality when it's described and then once it's

00:21:39.900 on i'm loving it i think you would just love it it's so fascinating it's like just utterly

00:21:45.400 fascinating okay so i this morning so hang on i've really really been working on staying off

00:21:53.600 instagram listen i'm sorry amazing but the last couple weeks i've been very good just on there

00:21:57.500 for a second to pop in when i need to for example to promote i'm just going to do a local los angeles

00:22:02.380 promotion i have my own sandwich that i've collabed with kismet kismet rotisserie star

00:22:07.920 and anise i have my own sandwich in los angeles for the there's no star anise in it sorry i just

00:22:14.100 mean isn't that in their chicken and what gives it special flavor there's something really specific

00:22:19.300 about the flavor that and i once tried to identify it john early said it might be that

00:22:22.960 Anyway, go on. Sorry. Well, I have a collaboration pita sandwich, all benefits benefiting Churla

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00:22:51.060 you could also probably get the cob just i don't know can't you just say i want my sandwich to go

00:22:56.960 to the thing the kate i don't know i don't know i think it's an order that sandwich but it's 0.54

00:23:03.340 fucking delicious and i truly had it today for lunch for fun swinging by getting my sandwich 0.53

00:23:09.320 can you imagine david dream you know i know it's it's it's the dream and then by the way across 0.97

00:23:14.980 the street from kismet is my new hyper fixation beverage which is i know i'm late to the game

00:23:19.660 kettle matcha they sell it online you can they have a store in new york they won in la getting

00:23:25.620 the kettle matcha soy latte what's the business called kettle matcha kettle sorry kettle k-e-t-t-l

00:23:32.040 is this kind of high grade but where do they serve it at a brand at a store called kettle

00:23:37.400 they have a shop in new york they have a shop in la not a cafe cafe sorry i'm saying shop cafe

00:23:42.820 gorgeous cafe interesting i wonder i wonder i've been like three days in a row and i'm driving

00:23:49.340 20 minutes to get it that's how good that's interesting because i've actually been doing

00:23:53.000 for it for the last couple days i gotta make it at home just matcha at joe but really i have to

00:23:59.320 by the way i really appreciate the hags who said hello in the in new york in the neighborhood

00:24:03.040 the hags always say hello that one one had even said like you did you said to say hello

00:24:09.940 you know and of course of course doesn't matter how focused i look i'm always focused doesn't

00:24:15.920 matter if i'm under my special headset always tap always say remove the headphones boy does it give 0.81

00:24:21.680 me a boost no we need it so bad we need it so fucking bad yes by the way sorry so i was saying 0.85

00:24:27.520 popping up to promote the sandwich but then also so this morning i popped onto instagram 0.89

00:24:31.360 and i see in classic form they're feeding me a recipe someone at home making something

00:24:37.120 and i go i'm gonna do it so this is you're gonna do what the recipe why make this thing which is 0.98

00:24:43.660 an egg white so i can't believe you're able to get your ass to do a recipe i just cannot 0.84

00:24:48.620 bring myself to recipe is a strong word for what this was it was so easy but it did involve me 0.94

00:24:53.880 busting out the hand beater wow like the egg beater electric thing and i was like that might 0.99

00:24:58.920 be too much that might push me over the edge yeah having a plug in yeah i was like oh fuck 0.85

00:25:03.900 but listen to me and this is very like yeah keto whatever thing but it's an egg so it's a like a 0.98

00:25:10.660 big fluffy i'm just gonna say it fucking worked and i loved it oh i see i see i see i know where

00:25:15.540 this is going egg beat i know three egg bread to form peaks you make cloud bread yeah yeah literally 0.92

00:25:22.420 guess who's known about cloud bread for eight years of course i just did you make it no i've

00:25:27.480 never had the courage so there's the bread that i feel like is weird because it needs certain

00:25:32.020 additives like special like things this is only the egg whites a little baking powder cinnamon

00:25:39.160 and you're like protein bread i imagine is how you're how they sold it to cape relant it was a

00:25:44.220 pancake like i wanted i wanted a pancake look how just look it does not look good at least

00:25:49.440 i think everything looks good yeah i mean yeah yeah totally but this is i have to say i i loaded

00:25:56.980 it up with some greek yogurt some berries some monk fruit why am i laughing syrup and i was

00:26:03.800 moaning that looks delicious i was moaning like a cat on a hot tin roof that looks delicious

00:26:11.820 okay i'm not no i'm like staring at it going i'll make a better one luckily i'm just trying to think

00:26:19.300 i'm like wait but i don't eat egg whites and then it's like oh right i could make i could i know i

00:26:25.180 know i could just make a pancake not that you're trying to avoid chickpea or whatever the point is

00:26:29.400 yeah yeah totally mix no this was just a fun idea i also sent you a meme because i was like

00:26:33.800 isn't there something really cozy and relaxing when a meme really makes you laugh okay and you're

00:26:40.940 like laughing i couldn't agree more yeah so i was like you know stressful week oh oh i oh wait wait

00:26:50.120 you sent me a meme hold on we describe it for the listeners is that pedro pascal ones okay yeah

00:26:58.460 for whatever reason yeah he appears to be lying on his back you could take him out of it you think

00:27:02.520 that's irrelevant actually no you're right it's not because he's it's not a traditional it's

00:27:07.520 irrelevant to my enjoyment of the meme but yes it appears like he's lying on his back he's on the

00:27:12.640 ground yeah and then his head is lifted up almost and smiling to look at his phone i suspect he was

00:27:19.640 actually taking a photograph in that moment anyway but irrelevant smart god you're smart it creates a

00:27:25.520 nice baseline for the quote the caption me in my bed taking a survey at 3 a.m to see what kind of

00:27:33.180 pasta i am oh no wait well okay no this is funny it's just no no no it's just funny to like this 0.97

00:27:42.800 actually really this is really powerful exercise because it shows the way it doesn't fucking work 0.52

00:27:47.160 because the whole context of enjoying a meme is you're in bed you're laying down you're like 0.64

00:27:53.720 supine it's not about oration it's not about dictation you have to see it and you have to

00:27:58.800 come across it in like the hellish scroll totally you know what i mean like that's part of what it

00:28:05.020 is right you are in it while you can't hang them on a wall you can't hang them on a gallery wall

00:28:10.400 although the memory of where we meant to perceive them could actually put them on the wall but

00:28:15.360 it only emerges in the chaos yeah i think um memes fucking rock okay and they will be 0.85

00:28:23.860 ladies don't let no man who drinks matcha raise his voice at you you talk to him woman to woman 0.83

00:28:31.560 that's funny naomi's on that yeah naomi like like is in the like catches memes they're my

00:28:42.720 youth correspondent yeah no but memes have replaced contemporary art 100 percent correspondent is

00:28:48.280 funny because it i know what you mean by it but it when you say like the you know white house

00:28:53.540 correspondent whatever it's almost like they're reporting not no i guess it is it is sorry i had

00:29:00.880 to walk through the metaphor they're reporting to me yeah the youth

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00:30:21.720 have i already talked on this podcast about how i've been wearing a headset

00:30:31.480 in public no full gamer headset with a big ass great floating for phone calls for everything

00:30:38.920 yeah for just dictation like you know floating what oh the floating like microphone in front

00:30:46.620 in the face oh yeah true headset hound i'm not the first to introduce them in the joe cafe

00:30:52.180 can't believe you're on a stepper i don't know doesn't matter we are where we are i have something 0.95

00:30:57.640 from movie club and someone did tag godzilla midas one and say like holy shit this is amazing 0.58

00:31:01.920 still waiting for you to watch perfect summertime movie well it was interesting i was almost

00:31:06.820 disappointed when i realized that it was a japanese film right i was like oh no wonder it's

00:31:12.620 good i thought it was some american like slop you know trash film that then was actually amazing

00:31:19.240 yeah so i'm almost disappointed to know that it's known as a good those almost don't exist anymore

00:31:24.180 right there there was a great era of that in american cinema the trash film that actually

00:31:28.420 was good because there used to be some kinds of standards now they're almost entirely unacceptable

00:31:33.200 every last one i don't know when the last good american trash film was i couldn't tell you with

00:31:37.600 a gun to my head yeah it's hard to say i believe i believe everything everything has a chance

00:31:42.560 I hardly believe but I think they still are making some well but here I want to submit this

00:31:47.740 to movie club and Jacqueline specifically I need to know if you've seen this I want to guess just

00:31:52.320 kidding have you seen Ari Aster's masterpiece Bo's Afraid I literally haven't and I'm humiliated

00:31:58.540 and I did hear this is great news because you can no no listen listen to me so I just want to say

00:32:03.660 quickly something isn't it it's not no this is a no yes I'm a fan of I'm a huge fan of his all his

00:32:10.000 work. This, Beau's Afraid is my favorite of his films, which is, and I'm a big fan, but so it's,

00:32:16.000 you know, but I would have to say that one's the one for me. And I saw it in theaters when I tell

00:32:22.460 you for the first hour or whatever, cause it's kind of, there's some different kind of segments

00:32:27.620 in a way. I was cackling and I mean, loudly laughing in a way where I became self-conscious

00:32:34.380 people thought I was performing laughter. Much like me at your show. And I still feel bad about

00:32:39.400 that it couldn't be helped no me screaming no no that no that's great that's so it's so nice

00:32:48.440 no no i love it no but here's why you say i look i look it up and i just see american surrealist 0.67

00:32:53.900 tragic comedy and i go well yeah well yeah like holy shit like that gives language something like

00:33:00.560 that i want to from now on be like so i'd like to make an american surrealist yeah don't read 0.86

00:33:06.740 anything don't read anything there it is i'm not i'm not no one don't watch a trailer no one no

00:33:11.860 one do anything just go watch it but i knew naomi would love it when i tell you they were screaming

00:33:16.920 like they're no there's things that are making them like the best feeling truly i almost started

00:33:21.880 filming them like howling that's the best there's unbelievable comedy and by the way and i have

00:33:27.980 the announcement which is and this is i'm really saying this there isn't another film there's

00:33:33.280 nothing that i've ever consumed in my life that produces the anxiety of this movie oh and it's

00:33:40.400 the kind of anxiety and that's how successful it is wow like i've never related i like watching

00:33:46.720 difficult characters right like okay take it from the comedy david brent in the office right lisa

00:33:51.480 kujo and the comeback people go oh i just can't watch so hard to watch i just can't watch and i've

00:33:56.880 never related to that yeah and i'm like you're like it's hilarious like what yeah it's like you

00:34:00.680 understand that's exactly what pardon me like yeah really you really can't watch it or whatever

00:34:05.120 right but some people really do have come to learn find it too difficult to be walking phoenix in

00:34:10.660 this is it's such a remarkable performance and it is oh do you mean you actually experience the

00:34:18.360 anxiety of like of almost like what people are talking about like the whatever secondhand

00:34:23.060 embarrassment or whatever like it's this tragic comic figure but there's times where it's you

00:34:28.460 really feel his the difficulty of his like unique subjectivity and how it is i'm gonna go even

00:34:38.420 further and say it is it is i would argue maybe the only effort on the part of a filmmaker to in

00:34:44.660 any way try to reflect back the moment in which we are alive oh is in this current moment yeah or

00:34:50.160 you know current decade or whatever yes or just like 23 everyone and you know and he's also doing

00:34:55.060 this in this new movie it's and everyone's like oh we really want to talk don't we want to watch

00:34:58.880 a movie to escape do we want to get out of this hell sure but i would argue yeah sure the only

00:35:03.940 way out is through and also yeah reality is medicine and also it's actually unbelievable

00:35:07.920 when you see kind of your your situation reflected back to you or the someone trying to make sense of

00:35:12.320 it yeah true anyway please watch it i'm submitting it to movie club and i really think but but i'm

00:35:19.020 also like telling you it's I don't want to see your phone in your hand when you're watching this

00:35:26.220 everyone this is not a phone watch I thought you meant me and I was we have enough of those

00:35:29.780 no I meant everyone not I'm saying I'm saying though we have enough of those this is a phones 0.94

00:35:33.940 down okay also last thing I'll say in this goddamn world oh it's two and a half hours I don't want 0.89

00:35:41.380 to hear it I just saw Eddington which I loved I'm sitting there it's what two and a half hours 0.95

00:35:45.820 haven't seen it i want i'm telling you this not i'm never going let's hurry up let's get through

00:35:51.220 it what's next it's like and if at the very least and a huge accomplishment the smallest

00:35:57.280 the a huge accomplishment which is imagine two and a half hours where you're not thinking about

00:36:01.680 your life i would argue then what you've done is a success and people go oh well that's you know

00:36:06.680 marvel movies no you're thinking about your life i'm going where's my car i'm thinking about what 0.98

00:36:11.920 i'm having for dinner actually no i'm not because i'm not even in that i'm not even in the fucking 0.99

00:36:16.080 seat for that shit that being said i'm available wait you're not even the fucking seat for which 0.99

00:36:20.920 shit to play a crazy cashier wait sorry i lost you at the end there i was making how could you 0.99

00:36:25.680 have followed it i was making a pretentious comment usually i don't usually i'm right there 0.99

00:36:30.080 yeah i was making a pretentious comment yes about the fact that i don't see those films in theaters

00:36:35.240 right the last one i saw i saw guardians in the galaxy the first one in theaters when was that

00:36:39.580 2004 like i feel like hard to say hey they're having fun up there sorry i just heard a sound

00:36:45.480 and i got scared i live in constant terror all right um totally totally i actually i want to

00:36:50.180 make a comment on that the constant terror because something i am that you are not is a gasper

00:36:54.900 gasping no i'm a gasper do you do that oh because i am and my mother is the hugest gasper and my 0.99

00:37:02.360 whole childhood is like my mom and my dad like they say it's an idiot thing what they say it's 0.97

00:37:07.840 thing because you're kind of being like woken from hyper focus on one thing like i guess chris 0.87

00:37:14.400 is like why are you surprised that the person you live with walked into the room yeah yeah

00:37:19.480 completely completely you know i mean he doesn't talk like that or sound like that but i mean 0.99

00:37:23.600 he's raised that point when you live with a crazy bitch yeah yeah of course no it's it's a classic 0.99

00:37:30.640 like i shouldn't be surprised to see him i remember hearing or reading somewhere that's like 0.98

00:37:35.460 when you're spooked suddenly or startled easily it's of course a sign of like adrenal fatigue or

00:37:40.820 like that your system is shot like your vagus nerve is like shot beyond belief and i once was

00:37:45.360 i was having particularly tough or like tense couple days and i was i think i've even talked

00:37:50.300 about this on the podcast but i was yeah walking with my keys in my hands kind of like a little

00:37:56.260 above my like i was walking in stride and i saw out of the corner of my eye my own key that i was

00:38:01.240 holding. Oh yeah. And like, not just gas, I like got out of the way. I thought it was like almost

00:38:07.460 like a rat, like a flying rat or something that was coming for me. And it was my own keys in my

00:38:13.560 own hand. And I kind of flung my body away from my own hand. And then I realized that's not a rat.

00:38:19.980 It's my hand. Yes. And I thought, well, that's a sign of adrenal fatigue. By the way, like signs

00:38:27.760 of adrenal fatigue is like the biggest headline like they've been pushing for 15 years yeah they're

00:38:33.720 like it's at this point it's like we know we've been blowing out our cortisol yeah but you know

00:38:41.640 now we just have to wait for you know to come around again the other way just like the barrier

00:38:46.140 cream you know like we've been guys too much like a barrier cream wait you know what is a

00:38:53.080 i'll submit to television club because oh my god there i am gasping sorry it's deeply

00:38:59.720 it's deeply a me show i was gonna say started titan but haven't continued keep going what

00:39:06.000 started titan submersible last night but haven't finished oh yeah i actually received video of you

00:39:10.640 watching it oh yeah me high on one one one you didn't know or you didn't know no no they filmed

00:39:15.840 me but yeah but it's me yes reacting to yeah i'm excited calling interstellar now i what's odd is

00:39:22.720 i can't remember what was in the one i watched and what was in the the netflix one because remember i

00:39:28.240 was two the one wasn't available so i went running to discovery network or whatever it was yeah by

00:39:35.700 the way you know about this that i call it i think it's funny getting maxed which is you're on hbo max

00:39:41.740 or max right okay okay and you go oh this looks like an interesting documentary love a prestige

00:39:47.440 documentary you hit play you go this is and then you go oh okay and it's like because they bought 0.92

00:39:54.680 and subsumed id discovery network all this shit under there getting max that's hysterical it ain't

00:40:01.840 the jinx i'm like we got max you got max you think it's the jinx but it's actually yeah yes well 0.51

00:40:08.580 what's the trend there's a horrifying trend contemporary documentaries i find them almost

00:40:12.780 exclusively on hulu or something where it's because it's like you know now no one can watch

00:40:17.140 a movie or no one has the bandwidth to tolerate anything that's longer than 10 seconds so they

00:40:21.440 pump in like it's not even because of course obsessed with documentary reenactments and how

00:40:25.860 pathetic they often are oh no you better not be talking about the things in the corner that are 0.95

00:40:29.480 like have you ever thought your husband was gonna kill you no i've never seen that tweet at us try 0.99

00:40:35.000 to keep you in yeah no but it's like hulu or something like the conglomerate they pump in

00:40:41.520 clips from movies relate so let's just say the documentary it's like yeah and then i realized 0.80

00:40:46.200 oh my god i'm gonna miss my flight and then they pump in some fucking clip from a movie and it's 0.89

00:40:51.760 like clive owen i don't know why that's okay are you serious i'm going to miss my flight i know why 0.95

00:40:57.060 you just said clive owen why because i was about to bring him up no stop a good 46 seconds wait

00:41:03.160 that means that okay this is good this is channeling very good because jacklyn he's not in my

00:41:07.520 life he's not in my mind he's not someone that is my guy at all i know you said you sent it to me

00:41:12.120 he broke through send it to me this is huge this is huge i honor you once again you're not coming

00:41:17.780 back oh my god after this lifetime oh my god so and they pump they pump in clips from other movies

00:41:24.400 so that the distract to say go essentially to pepper it go watch this no no well sure but to

00:41:29.140 pepper it with like don't worry don't worry it's not boring look here's a clip from this one clip

00:41:32.600 clip clip clip to mimic like oh that's pathetic i don't think i've seen that i've seen it in a few

00:41:37.360 things and I have to stop watching because it's like they think they're like oh it's a documentary 0.88

00:41:42.340 but then you realize it's actually for like the schizophrenic like scrolling youth I guess I don't 0.54

00:41:49.900 know but it's not even just the youth as we know it's in fact the elderly I feel like are even more 0.63

00:41:54.480 because now they've got the phones in their in their golden years and they're susceptible I know

00:41:59.520 and they've no to launch in retirement well I was gonna say the most me show ever okay yeah

00:42:05.860 i mean i basically am him you know it's like whatever the nick ever seen it have i brought

00:42:16.840 this up before i almost can't even soda bird i almost on air can't admit that i haven't seen

00:42:23.160 it's how shamed but i have not seen it no right it rocks we're on our second viewing i watched

00:42:28.720 it years ago we're in new york we're feeling this very like let's watch stuff that takes place in

00:42:33.720 old new york whatever and i watch it i go god damn okay clive owen star that's why i can't

00:42:42.860 believe i mean that's why i was about to bring him up yeah okay you sent me clive owen i'm sorry

00:42:47.740 but this is you sent me clive owen there's no reason he'd be in my mind i know i'm almost like

00:42:53.160 i need to look him up to see if he's who i think he is because i'm so bad with celebrity names

00:42:56.980 and i wonder if even yeah that is clive owen i mean i don't know which way is even more impressive

00:43:02.360 if you've got the right image or not because it kind of doesn't matter like it's like you know

00:43:05.900 when the psychic is like so i'm seeing my symbol for you know mother's brother right right right 0.90

00:43:10.920 you know that is there's no reason he'd be up there you looked yeah so it's fucking rocks why 0.86

00:43:18.980 because it's about early surgery okay it's about being a pioneer of surgery which would i not have 0.95

00:43:24.940 been of course okay wildly advancing you know going for it going yes it freaking rules okay 0.55

00:43:35.520 and that was i said freaking i don't say friggin so i will not be misquoted this has happened 0.96

00:43:40.760 before occasionally i say freaking i love i say freaking i say freaking freaking maybe 0.98

00:43:48.500 obviously fucking um so anyway the nick get in if you want to spend an hour with me i want to do 0.98

00:44:01.120 that's fun that's fun i want to do major tv today i was thinking about firing up the screen firing 0.98

00:44:08.000 up the like it's a fucking grill firing it up at like five and and plug it go into midnight yes

00:44:14.560 because tv rocks naomi had never seen the piano teacher which is one of my favorite films of all 0.96

00:44:20.220 time newsflash yeah googled it earlier today going have you not seen have i seen it panicky

00:44:26.560 it's a brilliant you can watch it on criterion because nothing was coming to mind so i'm like

00:44:31.540 humiliating but but jacqueline i need you to watch beau's afraid i'm i'm going to and back to how

00:44:37.760 powerful it is as filmmaking i'm going to issue a warning because for example is this a movie that

00:44:43.100 i would necessarily say it's not scary because ari astor made hereditary which is genuinely

00:44:49.160 terrifying and like yes and if you don't like scary movies that's a movie that i'd be like

00:44:53.640 well that's gonna be too scary for you i was afraid it's not scary in that sense it's not

00:44:58.260 right like but it's a i mean it's a testament to the filmmaking and to the performances it

00:45:03.740 actually is deeply unsettling in this way that's hysterical too do you remember like maybe i'm

00:45:12.060 i'm assuming but like the first time you saw salant's happiness i'm actually gonna have to

00:45:19.060 i'm actually gonna have to almost i this is this is the first this is no no this is a first for

00:45:24.240 the podcast i've we've been doing this podcast for years okay i've never had the instinct to do

00:45:30.760 the classic rip off the headphones walk away oh my god no because it's like it's the most it's one

00:45:38.520 of the most integral films to like my entire being well so it's one of the things like

00:45:44.720 big enough like it's like it's like yeah it's like happiness is well that's why i said do you

00:45:52.060 remember the first time you saw it out of the assumption the answer is yes i must have been

00:45:56.660 16 15 i really want to get opening i want to say that i i know it it's it's i have it on dvd you

00:46:04.760 know it's deep in there the first scene of happiness changed my life because i didn't know

00:46:09.540 you could start a movie that way i didn't know i know i didn't know actor i didn't know you could

00:46:13.760 do that i didn't know i know that we could like i was in my basement okay me me like asking the

00:46:20.840 question to tell my own tale and there is no there is no story all like the story is like watching

00:46:26.880 the film but oh and i also you know it's pretty fun i ordered once online this like special poster

00:46:32.820 for the film it literally has like this like semen on it has what like a semen on it like

00:46:40.980 as a reference to the semen on the wall amazing okay and so i watched it alone in the basement

00:46:47.980 during my sort of like teenage awakening filmmaking i want to be a filmmaker yeah i

00:46:54.760 still do folks okay watching going like because to watch it alone is interesting okay because

00:47:02.500 you're going this is like the funniest thing i've ever seen in my whole life yeah right yeah and

00:47:08.640 you're going like there's a purity to it because i think if you watch that with someone or you watch

00:47:14.440 that with someone you don't know or whatever i i don't know what what scenario i'm trying to

00:47:18.820 imagine other than watching it alone but i mean to call the humor dark is an understatement 0.99

00:47:24.900 no one fucking had the realest motherfucker in the game todd salons i guess salons i've i don't 0.98

00:47:34.820 know i've been saying salons right i've been saying salons the whole time yeah i engaged 0.99

00:47:40.040 with his films not his name calendromes well oh my god that's really happiness to me is you know

00:47:48.020 a lot of people say welcome to the welcome to the dollhouse you know that i'm like happiness

00:47:52.240 happiness happiness i'm not dissing dollhouse dollhouses i mean it's really hard to pick this

00:47:58.040 doll but happiness is holy i'm even scared you know because we're in a new dawn of a new day

00:48:04.800 like i don't even think i can reference the jokes that in scenes that are the funniest thing in the

00:48:09.780 world like i can't be like sound in one scene i know no no it is it's i mean listen we can talk

00:48:19.260 all day about the state of media cinema the movies that were made that could never be made now

00:48:24.740 indie film used to exist and it still does indie film used to exist but it used to really exist

00:48:32.660 i saw one hour photo in theaters there's a there's a new there's always a new layer right

00:48:40.020 the thing gets commercialized taken ruined a new aesthetic must be born you know where

00:48:45.440 not aesthetic an aesthetic of the marketplace right a oh now the real film's happening on

00:48:51.420 youtube or whatever you see what i'm saying yeah yeah all right love you bye bye

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 08, 2025

You’re Pixelated as Usual

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