Under the Influence (with Jo Piazza) - How to Talk to Your Kids About the Election and Trump AND EVERYTHING

00:00:00.000 Hey, all. Jo here, and you're listening to Under the Influence.

00:00:11.980 We all have a lot of feelings right now. A lot of them. A lot of confusing feelings,

00:00:17.220 and they're all over the place. And it's really just kind of a tornado, hurricane,

00:00:23.360 disaster right now for a lot of us. I just jumped into the ocean wearing all of my clothes.

00:00:29.420 I did. I did. I'm down in Stone Harbor doing a book event for Sicilian Inheritance because

00:00:34.280 the world keeps moving and we have to keep working no matter who is going to be in charge.

00:00:40.300 And I went for a run on the beach in my clothes and the ocean looked really inviting. So I just

00:00:46.680 jumped in. Wearing my running outfit, people stared at me as if they should be concerned,

00:00:51.960 like, oh my gosh, why is that middle-aged woman jumping into the ocean? And I'm like, no, no, 0.88

00:00:55.920 I'm fine. It's Lululemon. It wicks moisture. And it was great. Jumping into the ocean on a

00:01:03.760 November day, which is, you know, a reminder that climate change really is happening, was actually

00:01:10.260 really lovely. And it gave me a little something that I needed to keep moving forward.

00:01:17.980 But I'm in a better place today than I was on Wednesday morning. When I woke up on Wednesday

00:01:24.120 morning, I was in a sheet cake and red wine coma. My seven-year-old had gone to bed around 10 p.m.

00:01:31.000 on election night, and even though things weren't looking good then, there was still hope. And the

00:01:37.000 first thing he asked me about when I got him up in the morning was who won this election. And when

00:01:43.340 I told him the answer, his face crumpled. His face crumpled. And he asked me the simple question,

00:01:50.540 the question that we all have, why? How could this happen? Why did this happen? And what does

00:01:59.360 this all mean for the half of the country that didn't want this, that was afraid of this?

00:02:07.320 I told him the honest answer, I don't know. I have no idea what any of it means. And anyone

00:02:13.020 who says that they do right now, anyone who has a hot take, is pretty much just bullshitting you

00:02:18.920 for clicks and likes because we don't know what's going to happen next.

00:02:24.720 But I want to know how to keep talking to my kids about this because I know a lot of kids out there

00:02:30.500 are really, really scared. So many of you have messaged me on social media saying that your

00:02:37.140 kids are not dealing with this well at all. We all want to know how to talk to our kids,

00:02:44.020 not just about what happened this week, but what's going to happen going forward.

00:02:50.100 So I've got a couple of experts on today.

00:02:52.420 They've got really good tips for us.

00:02:54.220 I think this is going to be a part one of a many-part series on how do we talk to our

00:02:59.140 kids about the world that we're about to live in.

00:03:01.960 First on, I've got Amanda White. 0.97

00:03:04.380 She is the executive director and therapist at the Therapy for Women Center.

00:03:09.780 And Amanda wants us to remember that our kids are really freaking smart.

00:03:13.280 like so smart and we have to talk to them like they are we cannot talk down to them

00:03:18.740 and mostly and given that you know depend depending on their ages mostly we need to

00:03:24.120 tell them the truth and she also reminds us that we are the leaders here we're the grown-ups in the

00:03:29.880 room whether we like it or not we are the ones who are going to set the tone and what our kids

00:03:34.920 need most right now is a sturdy leader. Hey there. So of course, as a therapist,

00:03:44.620 it really depends on the age of the kids that you're talking to. But I think, and I'll go into

00:03:50.220 that in a second, but I think regardless of age, it's important to be honest and authentic. I think

00:03:56.800 so many parents sometimes try to hide how they're feeling or pretend that something isn't happening.

00:04:03.160 and we really underestimate that kids are smart, they're perceptive, they're paying attention to

00:04:08.600 what's going on. And if we just say, no, no, mommy's fine. Everything's great. Nothing's going

00:04:13.700 on. It's going to be really confusing for them. So instead, my recommendation is to be honest.

00:04:19.820 That doesn't mean you tell every detail that you're thinking and go into things that are

00:04:25.240 above their head or purposefully scare them. But saying like, yeah, I'm having a hard time today.

00:04:32.760 It's not what we expected. It's not what we hoped for. We're nervous about things that are going on

00:04:39.380 and mom needs to grieve and be sad about this. It doesn't mean that the world is over. The country

00:04:45.940 is over. It just means that things happen sometimes that are hard. And I think really

00:04:52.140 leaning into kids are resilient, we're resilient, and we will get through this. And we don't know

00:05:00.340 exactly what that will look like, but we have each other and people have been through hard

00:05:05.720 things before and we can do hard things. One of my favorite metaphors about parenting that I didn't

00:05:12.460 come up with, Dr. Becky Kennedy did, is she talks about being a sturdy leader, being like you are

00:05:19.120 the leader of your family and thinking about the metaphor of if you are on a plane that is

00:05:25.120 experiencing turbulence or not going well, your job as the parent is to be the sturdy leader and

00:05:31.520 be the captain. That doesn't mean that you aren't honest about what's going on, but you don't get

00:05:37.580 caught up into all of the spiraling and the intensity and you try to continue to fly the

00:05:45.460 plane because that is your job as a parent. I think especially the younger your kids are, that

00:05:50.420 is more of your job. Again, that doesn't mean you can't be honest that you're struggling. We

00:05:55.020 don't want to make our kids not trust their instincts. But being clear that we will get

00:06:00.080 through this together, you will support them. You don't know what's going to happen. But as a parent,

00:06:04.740 you can promise that you will have their back. And that's one of the best things that you can do

00:06:09.420 as a parent. I think the other thing to keep in mind is not only are kids really perceptive,

00:06:16.360 but so many kids are on social media these days. I think the statistic is like one in five

00:06:21.440 people that are on TikTok are like under the age of 18. Kids are being fed content. They're seeing

00:06:29.320 what's going on. And I think it's really important, especially if your kids are older, to ask them,

00:06:34.660 what are you seeing? What are you afraid of? Asking them what's on their feed, asking them

00:06:39.500 what's going on so that you can speak to it, share with them, reassure them that maybe certain things

00:06:45.280 aren't going on. Pull from history. You know, we've been through hard things before, you know,

00:06:52.200 as a nation, before that even, and really leaning into some of that can be really helpful as well.

00:07:00.300 The other thing I would end with is it's important to hold space for your kids' emotions.

00:07:06.140 And it's really hard to do that while you're holding space for your own emotions,

00:07:09.280 but allow them to feel how they feel. Don't try to force them to feel gratitude.

00:07:14.980 Don't try to force them to look for a silver lining.

00:07:17.940 You don't need to take away their pain.

00:07:20.260 The best thing you can do as a parent is make space for their pain, hold their pain, and

00:07:25.640 remind them that they are resilient, that they will get through this because they have

00:07:30.680 you and you have their back.

00:07:32.880 So I hope that this was helpful in some way for someone.

00:07:35.960 I'm Amanda E. White.

00:07:37.000 I'm a licensed therapist.

00:07:38.040 My handle is Therapy for Women, and I have a practice in Philadelphia.

00:07:44.480 And we serve 43 states across the country.

00:07:46.680 You can learn more at therapyforwomencenter.com.

00:07:50.440 Let's take a quick break.

00:07:51.480 When we get back, we're talking to Julia Hitch from the Seattle Clinic.

00:07:54.760 Julia specializes in child and teen behavioral health.

00:08:06.360 And we're back.

00:08:07.200 Now we're going to talk to Julia Hitch of the Seattle Clinic.

00:08:10.400 And one of the things that I found fascinating about this conversation with Julia is that she was seeing patients all day on Wednesday.

00:08:20.300 She's seeing patients all day today.

00:08:21.840 And she's literally processing her own feelings and grief about this as she's counseling parents how to process their feelings and then how to help their children process those feelings.

00:08:34.740 So it's a really interesting dynamic. And I think the thing to remember here is that we're all figuring this out together in real time. So keep your questions coming. We're going to do another episode on this. Here's Julia.

00:08:49.000 Yeah. I've got so many, so many questions for you. I woke up and didn't want to get out of bed

00:08:56.840 this morning because I knew I'd have to explain to my kids what happened. They were only up,

00:09:03.160 they were up until about 10 and we didn't know anything then. And I know that half the country

00:09:10.300 is having a different conversation with their kids too. Half of the country is having a conversation

00:09:14.180 of, oh my gosh, we won. This is great for us. This is great for our family. That is not the

00:09:21.460 conversation that I was, that I was having. And I still, they know the news, but they have a lot

00:09:27.640 of questions. And I'm so curious to hear, mine are young. How do I talk to them, you know,

00:09:33.940 especially the seven-year-old? And then how do we talk to older kids too, who are watching their

00:09:38.940 parents i think in a lot of ways grieve yes oh such good questions i think um i guess the one

00:09:47.000 thing i want to start with is reassuring you and reassuring parents that our emotions are actually

00:09:54.320 really important and they actually have three evolutionally wired reasons why we have them

00:10:00.200 i'm such a data dork that this helps me when times of stress but they're they're they're

00:10:05.760 three functions of this. So any emotion, there's three functions, one to communicate to ourselves,

00:10:11.780 the other to communicate to others, and the third to motivate us for action. And so what I want to

00:10:16.960 reassure parents who are having all sorts of feelings, and in my house, there were hard

00:10:21.060 feelings. I personally was sad, ashamed, afraid. And these feelings are communicating to me things

00:10:31.580 that I need. And maybe that was also a few of my daughter's french fries when I picked her up from

00:10:35.640 a doctor's appointment, I'm not going to lie. But then there are also ways of connecting and

00:10:42.520 eventually they're going to motivate us for action. So I think in terms of how we're communicating to

00:10:47.700 kids at any age of thing, I'm having X feeling or all of these feelings and they're not bad or

00:10:53.960 inconvenient. They're such an important part of the process to figure out what's going to happen

00:10:58.760 next. And look at us, we're having this conversation right now. We're doing the thing that's wired for

00:11:03.460 our emotions. We're connecting about it. And I think in terms of how to think about emotions

00:11:10.320 and all that we're feeling with our kids, I sort of also like to think about emotions as

00:11:15.440 compost versus uncomposted emotions. I live in Seattle, so compost is a thing. It may not be as

00:11:21.500 much elsewhere. No, no, no. Please, please. I'm married to Nick Astor, who is saving, very busy

00:11:27.400 trying to save the planet. And composting has been a thing for the 10 years of our marriage.

00:11:31.840 and it was not when I was a New Yorker. Amazing. So being a Seattleite now, I think about emotions

00:11:40.060 as composted is before we can compost emotions, they have to be kind of like yucky things like 0.93

00:11:45.120 big, chunky, gross, stinky. And it's part of the process to get to smooth, rich compost that allows

00:11:50.380 new things to grow. So as a parent, I think a really important question to ask us when we're

00:11:54.580 having conversations about this with our kids is, are my emotions right now, am I on the way toward

00:12:02.100 composted or are they chunky and stinky? And not that that's bad, but you don't really want to have

00:12:07.420 chunky, stinky, emotional conversations necessarily with your kids and to sort of know where you are.

00:12:13.280 And you don't have to talk about all of this now with your kids. You can say, yeah, this has been 0.96

00:12:18.000 hard news. I'm sort of processing it. If you know you're in the chunky, stinky phase and then

00:12:23.620 waiting until you're a little bit more composted. And what I mean by that practically is like if

00:12:28.340 you're in the stage of like wearing, yelling, screaming, all the things that I think lots of

00:12:34.240 us want to be doing right now, that's kind of alarming, especially for younger kids or any

00:12:39.600 kids. So you want to make sure you're in a more composted spot where you can talk more in a

00:12:45.720 grounded place about your actual emotions. I'm showing you my, I realize your people can't see

00:12:50.280 this but I'm holding my chest so if you feel like you're here in your chest and your heart and you

00:12:54.600 can talk about it even with crying or loud voices but if you're dysregulated that's probably time to

00:13:00.360 tap out if someone else can have the conversation with their kids and it's also okay if you're

00:13:05.520 dysregulated right now yeah yeah absolutely I mean I was I was very dysregulated this morning

00:13:12.500 i really really was and mad so mad and and i and i i want to i want i want to create a safe space

00:13:24.720 for them to ask questions too i don't want them i don't want them to feel like oh my gosh if i

00:13:30.720 bring this thing up mommy's gonna start screaming um and and saying saying terrible terrible words

00:13:36.780 although i did say some terrible words uh when the early results were coming in last night 0.85

00:13:40.700 and my son's like you said the f-word and i'm like i'm allowed to and he's like am i allowed

00:13:45.680 to and i'm like do you have a college degree and he's like nope and i'm like that's what that when

00:13:52.660 you get a college degree they tell you you can use the f-word so you get to learn so many words

00:13:57.180 in college and use them one of them i love this i think this is a great i mean he's like excellent

00:14:02.760 he's like so after i go to college i get to say the f-word yeah you do yeah you do perfect i love

00:14:07.240 this yeah yeah um that's also I was two two glasses of wine deep because that's how I parent

00:14:11.980 but um yeah this morning totally fair last night yes yes you know this morning yeah I was really

00:14:18.960 and we didn't have a lot of time right before school I know the kids were all talking about

00:14:22.920 it in school and I also know that they parrot what we say yeah and so just trying to choose

00:14:29.680 my words carefully when I talk to them I think is so important um and I think you know one of

00:14:36.800 the things I really want to do is just make sure they know they're safe. Because that's my son's

00:14:41.620 concern, really. You know, a lot of his friends have gay parents. And or a lot of our friends

00:14:50.700 have teenagers who are gay or transgender. And he's worried for their safety. 100%. With good

00:14:58.700 women. Yeah. How can we assure them that they are safe still, even though we are presenting so much 1.00

00:15:06.180 fear of what's about to happen. I think that's really tricky. I think this is where I will go

00:15:12.540 back to that motivate us for action part of emotions and thing. You know, there was, I think

00:15:17.820 there's a time that maybe we took for granted. I know I certainly did a woman's right to choose

00:15:23.580 or that gay marriage is now totally legal or all a variety of things. And I know for me personally,

00:15:33.320 I probably became complacent where I'm like, this is taken care of. And I checked it off on my list

00:15:38.240 and was moving on to other concerns. And so I think the part I'd say is we are safe. Your friends

00:15:44.260 are safe and things are more shaky than they, than they seem to be before, but they probably

00:15:50.340 were as just as shaky, but we know that they are. And so this part about the feelings that we're

00:15:56.340 feeling, we actually don't want to move away from them. We are going to have, I don't know what

00:16:00.240 we're going to do yet in our family. We need to feel the feelings, but we're going to do something

00:16:03.780 to support the people in our lives who we love, who with this presidency are more vulnerable than

00:16:10.160 maybe we are. And that is what we're going to do. And we are also going to, again, the connecting

00:16:15.360 part about motivate us to connect with others. We're going to connect with the people who are

00:16:20.460 worried about and tell them we love them. And that's what we can do. And so with kids who are

00:16:25.420 younger, it does really help all of us to feel like we can do something. And so it's like you're

00:16:30.720 scared for your friend and they're feeling like under threat in some ways. Let's write them a

00:16:37.620 card. Let's tell them that we love them. Let's do this thing. And I think, you know, we're going to

00:16:43.160 see in the coming days, you know, if there's going to be other activities that we can have our kids

00:16:49.040 involved in, whether it's marches or any other bigger community-wide things. But I think it's

00:16:55.980 these smaller things that can make kids feel safe and also like they're doing something.

00:17:01.520 I know it feels so little to us, but I also feel like for families, you know, I'm a cisgendered

00:17:08.720 white woman who's heterosexual, so so much privilege. But to feel like the people in our

00:17:16.100 lives who we love. Like our kids, we have people in our lives. Our sitter is a dreamer. And, you

00:17:23.060 know, one of our concerns and our kids concerns is, is she going to be safe? And so how are we

00:17:30.060 reaching out to her and telling her that we love her and she's important to us? Does this fix who's

00:17:34.700 the president? No, but we're not going to let the hate or the fear be this ruinative, scary process

00:17:42.740 for our kids. We want it to actually be something connecting towards care and our values.

00:17:47.500 Yeah. Yeah. No. And I think, I think that's, I think that's what we all need too. I mean,

00:17:50.860 we're talking about how do we do this with our kids, but I think we also have to turn towards

00:17:54.960 our communities and towards, towards action. I do think a lot of us got very complacent for a

00:18:00.700 very long time. I mean, that's something that, that Emily and I have been talking about and

00:18:04.480 we will take action and it's okay to be in our feelings for today and tomorrow and this weekend.

00:18:11.560 And not even okay, but it's like actually a really important part of the process. Before we start going and moving, that would actually sometimes distract from the feelings. And these feelings, I think, are going to inform the process that you want. So feeling terrified, as awful as it is, maybe we don't look away from it and we look towards it. And that is going to inform the next steps with more clarity than just being like, okay, we're going to do X, Y, Z, because that's what you're supposed to do.

00:18:37.520 So I guess as the psychologist here, guilty as charged, I really it's, you know, I'm seeing a lot on social media like, oh, it's OK to feel the feelings and then we'll do something.

00:18:46.960 It's like more than that. These are these feelings are essential for the next step of what we need to be doing for our relationships, for ourselves and for our world.

00:18:58.720 Honestly, let's take a really quick break here.

00:19:01.840 We'll be right back.

00:19:07.520 I have one other thought that it's been coming up because obviously I've been seeing parents all day.

00:19:15.680 What has that been like?

00:19:17.420 I mean, it sort of reminds me of the pandemic, to be honest, where I was having my own experience alongside my patient's experience, where I'm very honest that I'm feeling the feelings you're feeling with you.

00:19:30.160 We're in this alongside.

00:19:31.600 side um and so i definitely feel that that camaraderie that human camaraderie that this

00:19:38.800 is not the outcome i wanted and i'm upset and sad and scared for and just i mean really really

00:19:46.720 deeply disappointed um deeply deeply disappointed i mean you know that's another thing that just

00:19:52.120 came up too because i think our kids saw us do a lot of things you know we were volunteering we

00:19:59.400 You were watching Fates.

00:20:00.840 We were talking about this and phone banking and it didn't work out the way we thought it was.

00:20:07.780 And, you know, I think, do you think it's important to express our disappointment over that?

00:20:14.460 And sometimes you work really hard and you don't get the thing that you want.

00:20:18.860 Yeah, I think actually totally because I think we're thinking about this on a meta level.

00:20:25.300 we have the election. But then as parents, we're always thinking multidimensionally about what

00:20:30.060 lessons our kids are learning. And this is this is a really important moment of not just speaking

00:20:35.880 about it, but modeling. There seem to be so many times your kids, things don't work out the way

00:20:41.060 they want to, whether it's they got assigned the teacher they wanted, they got they didn't get the

00:20:45.120 grade they wanted, someone they want to be friends with doesn't want to be friends with them. And

00:20:49.600 those seem like small things compared to who one president or not. But for them, it's not.

00:20:53.660 And so I think you can say, like, I am disappointed and I am feeling the feelings and I'm I'm going to regroup.

00:21:01.360 This isn't the end of our country. This isn't the end of our work together.

00:21:04.180 But maybe I'm going to do something different next time.

00:21:06.840 Maybe maybe I'm going to be phone banking, but maybe maybe, you know, I do all these podcasts.

00:21:12.140 Maybe this is going to lead me to making this up.

00:21:14.640 Maybe I'm going to change something about my podcast or maybe I'm going to change.

00:21:18.640 I don't know what it is yet, but I'm not giving up.

00:21:21.240 I'm really disappointed. But this isn't the end of my involvement because it didn't work out. That doesn't mean that our efforts were in vain. But we have to do something more and different next time. And we're going to. And so that's what we want our kids to think when they didn't make the team or they didn't get into the college they wanted.

00:21:41.900 How are they taking this lesson of a disappointment of seeing you want this so badly and working really hard and being disappointed?

00:21:50.660 And what did you do with it?

00:21:53.120 You're not wrapping it up in a bow.

00:21:56.080 Like, oh, yeah, well, you know, or you're not despondent.

00:22:00.100 Yeah.

00:22:00.980 Somewhere in between.

00:22:03.060 Somewhere in between.

00:22:04.220 I ate the whole sheet cake.

00:22:06.780 Or the French fries.

00:22:09.100 I was driving my daughter today. I'm like, here, give them to me. And I might have eaten all of

00:22:13.360 them, which is great. I think I needed the French fries today. You needed those French fries. You

00:22:17.440 deserve those French fries. They were delicious. Yes. Yes. That was right. You made the right

00:22:23.140 choice. I feel actually 100% convicted about that choice. There is one thing I have been

00:22:29.900 talking to families about, sort of about why. Why was Trump elected? And I think I have a couple

00:22:38.140 thoughts that I've been workshopping today with parents. And so you're getting the fresh take and

00:22:43.200 I don't know how they're going to land with all the kids yet. But one of the thoughts I have is

00:22:47.640 being honest, one, I don't know. I really don't know. And there's probably, I will never agree

00:22:56.600 with him or his behavior or his policies. And there's probably more I need to be learning and

00:23:03.740 listening. And there's some piece I'm missing, given that half of our country voted for him.

00:23:08.140 And there's something like modeling humility and disagreement.

00:23:13.680 So there's that piece.

00:23:15.040 And I have to say that feels really unsatisfying.

00:23:16.900 And I'm finding my own activation where I'm getting mad thinking about it.

00:23:20.340 But it does feel wise.

00:23:21.980 But I'm feeling my own resistance to that person. 0.97

00:23:24.820 The second one I've talked to the folks about is, you know, he's a bully. 0.99

00:23:30.420 He really is a bully. 0.95

00:23:32.140 And the thing is, bullies are so sparkly and powerful. 0.84

00:23:35.480 And so if you think about bullies at school, they're the people who draw people in. The people who want power, they draw them in. They want to be in that proximity to this really powerful bully. And then people who are the most vulnerable also want proximity to the bully because they think this bully, if they can be under this bully's wing, maybe they'll be protected.

00:23:58.080 And so there are people, and I think this is what I would say to my kids and the conversations I'm having, is we are really privileged. We aren't having to worry about getting food on the table in our family.

00:24:08.040 Right. So there are people in this country who are worried about eating every single day, who are worried about having a safe, dry, warm place to live every single day. And they perceive things have gotten worse for them. And they feel like Kamala Harris was part of this group of people who didn't make things better for them.

00:24:28.940 And so they wanted a change to someone to this bully who says he's going to make it better. Even if other parts that he's saying don't seem to fit with that, it's they want they're so desperate for a change. And this is where we can have compassion for that and say, I don't I don't get it.

00:24:45.000 But at the same time, our family is in that situation.

00:24:47.400 So a lot of people who we may not think, why would you vote for him?

00:24:51.680 That bullying power of saying, I'm going to change something, is really, really, really powerful and seductive.

00:24:59.620 And the reason why I'm saying that is that I think there can be this urge for a lot of us to say, oh, those people are crazy or why do they vote for him?

00:25:09.160 but to hold some possibility of this dialectical way of seeing it or some kernel of truth of why

00:25:16.560 someone might have voted for him with a little bit of humility. Again, there's the other part

00:25:22.940 of me that wants to be very clear to you and your listeners that has so many other thoughts about

00:25:27.780 this. So many. I think we're processing this all in real time. Totally. Yes. I mean, trying to help

00:25:37.080 kids find the empathy, because I think it is really easy to be like, those people just be 0.81

00:25:43.040 crazy. And that's not the right way to go about this. We know that because it was at the end of

00:25:51.020 the day, as a lot of people are saying, this was proof that our democracy did work because he did

00:25:58.060 win a majority. There was a free and a fair election. And if we believe in democracy,

00:26:04.700 we have to accept this choice and figure out how to move forward right yeah we can take them to go

00:26:10.820 see hamilton again exactly exactly and read the federalist papers together right i will be i will

00:26:20.000 be visiting the museum of the american revolution with my seven-year-old this weekend it feels like

00:26:24.980 a nice time for a civics lesson it's great that you're located in philly so uh yes yes very easy

00:26:31.960 for us to go try to lick the Liberty Bell

00:26:34.300 on Saturday afternoon.

00:26:36.260 Maybe, I like that plan.

00:26:38.520 As somebody who treats kids with OCD, 0.93

00:26:39.940 I think licking dirty things

00:26:41.220 is a great thing to do, actually. 0.68

00:26:42.660 So I love it.

00:26:43.300 Such a good thing.

00:26:44.240 Such a good thing.

00:26:46.680 And that's all we have for today.

00:26:48.360 I do feel a little bit better.

00:26:50.560 That was incredibly helpful.

00:26:53.340 I think I've got some tools,

00:26:54.580 some new tools to dive into this

00:26:56.940 and to figure it out.

00:26:58.160 But it's going to be different for all of us

00:26:59.760 because all of our kids are different.

00:27:01.140 So I think the best thing that we can do right now is just to keep having a continuous conversation, keep asking the questions, keep doing the things, and remember that we can't really be silent.

00:27:13.740 We can't really ignore this.

00:27:15.280 This is a thing that is happening in the world right now, and we have to move forward.

00:27:19.320 We have to push through it, and we have to figure out how to fight back.

00:27:24.160 That's just the truth right now.

00:27:26.340 It is.

00:27:26.840 So if you feel like jumping in the ocean, go jump in the ocean.

00:27:29.960 If you want to eat a whole sheet cake, you do that.

00:27:32.100 But you know what?

00:27:32.900 Don't get bangs this week.

00:27:34.160 Don't get bangs or adopt a puppy.

00:27:36.100 Neither of those things are going to work out for you.

00:27:37.820 I promise.

00:27:38.440 I know these things. 0.92

00:27:39.180 I am a Sicilian witch.

00:27:40.500 But right now, go do something nice for yourself. 0.94

00:27:42.380 You deserve it.

00:27:59.640 Thank you.

00:28:29.640 Thank you.

Under the Influence (with Jo Piazza) - November 07, 2024

How to Talk to Your Kids About the Election and Trump AND EVERYTHING

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