00:03:54.160You know, I haven't talked on this podcast about my dirty Diet Coke experience.
00:04:00.500Why don't we open the podcast with that?
00:04:02.300Because that's a really Utah thing to talk about.
00:04:04.000And before we get into my latest true crime obsession, I did not realize how much soda was a part of Utah and Mormon culture until until I arrived, until I got there.
00:04:18.100And there's freaking soda machines and soda bars everywhere.
00:13:19.840here we go so he was going to build a hunting lodge in this house and it's right on the provo
00:13:24.840river the view if you look at any of the pictures is gorgeous and around 2019 it stopped and i
00:13:33.260believe he moved to guadabala and supposedly to do some sort of non-profit work and so the house
00:13:41.060proceeded for the next three years to rot like the elements took it over very quickly also sadly
00:13:48.760during this time a construction worker went into the house and died from suicide in the home and
00:13:56.980so that had a lot of lore attached to it too where it was like people have said that even before this
00:14:04.140house began it was already haunted and the ownership it just there was no other ownership
00:14:10.780for this period of time. And then Corey Richens, who also is on multiple of these groups as a
00:14:19.160realtor, the posts are still up in some of these groups where Corey Richens has piped in and said,
00:14:24.340I have this house for sale if anyone's interested. Also, many of the people who are in this trial
00:14:29.800are also in these Facebook groups. Their names have popped up as I've been reading through this.
00:14:35.560uh she wanted to turn this home into a event center and the zoning would not have allowed
00:14:43.640for that uh it's only zoned i believe for private residents and so even going into that she was told
00:14:51.980that uh girl's got a dream what can you do so she put an offer in on the house maybe in december
00:15:00.400of the year before. And it was about, oh, maybe it was 2.9. I'm sure a lot of your listeners will
00:15:07.840know more of this. It was just under 3 million. I don't know if they will. I mean, this was new,
00:15:12.760this was new news to me and a lot of people I've found. Okay. Oh, really? Okay. Well, and I mean,
00:15:19.060I live in a town, Midway really only has maybe 5,000, 6,000 full-time residents. So the fact
00:15:24.800that we have, you know, you throw a rock or you throw a minky, you're going to hit an influencer0.54
00:15:29.900and that we have this like very high profile murder case happening around us is it's fun I
00:15:37.500I don't know another word at this point so no it's great it's great okay all right I'm not
00:15:42.580we don't love murder but come on like no and true crime and again there's so much I think what's
00:15:48.680been really interested about this child too is the people who she has hurt and seeing all the ways
00:15:56.640that it's it's not just the murder it's everything that she did that got her to the place to be a
00:16:03.340murderer and just kind of the the chaos and the sadness that has happened because of it and you
00:16:11.360look at her and she like she also in the case has changed her side part the side part was psychotic0.72
00:16:19.500that should have probably been the first indication of usually nefarious activity1.00
00:16:24.380Exactly. When I see a side part that psychotic, I'm like, you've committed murder.
00:16:28.380And hey, I'm a proud side part still. But that was actually one of the first comments, even when the news started to come out, was what's up with the side part. So I'm not in the minority talking about that, but she wanted to buy this house, turn it into an event center.
00:16:46.340And so she was a realtor and had been for a period of time and she was flipping some houses. And her husband, they had had some unrest between them. He, his family had money from like land or ranching or something going into their marriage.
00:17:07.240he had been married once before he was actually married in midway and the woman who he had been
00:17:13.140married to they got divorced after a few years and then a few years after they got divorced she
00:17:18.080she died in a tragic car accident so um he marries cory in maybe 2013 they have they already had a
00:17:27.860kid so there's a lot of speculation about whether they're mormon too um if you look at eric's
00:17:35.520obituary. He was raised in the church and he served a mission for the Church of East Christ
00:17:40.820Latter-day Saints somewhere, I believe, Spanish speaking. Many of his family members are still a
00:17:47.140part of the church. Cory grew up here and here being Wasatch County and Summit County. So they
00:17:56.580lived in a town called Camas and Camas is about 15 minutes from us. Now, but it is the next Camas
00:18:03.740might be uh yes indeed might be familiar to our listeners because indeed who who lives in camas
00:18:11.140we also have uh the family on the end of democrat lane ballerina farm ballerina farm
00:18:18.860the ballerina farm brand the nealmans uh i visited their dairy we just posted about that
00:18:23.180on under the influence or on over the influence on the sub stack uh yeah so that's where i always
00:18:28.900thought it was kamas uh it's kamas yeah right yeah put some twang on it like make it country
00:18:35.440don't don't don't make it fancy on us that's for park city they both have familial ties going into
00:18:40.920yes okay yes and but they didn't live in midway at the they lived in kamas at the time but she
00:18:47.220was doing uh she was flipping houses in our county and in her county as well and eric had a construction
00:18:54.020company. And, um, I know many people who have known Eric and it's always interesting how it
00:19:02.300comes out. I actually was getting my phone fixed and the man who owns the phone, phone dock in
00:19:09.980town was friends with Eric. And I was saying I had to keep my texts, uh, specifically from my
00:19:16.380ex-husband for documentation. And so then we started talking about the importance of keeping
00:19:21.360our texts for various reasons and um eric was really loved and he coached his kids teams um
00:19:30.600he also really loved cory and i think that's really important and that's kind of plays out
00:19:36.280in the trial again and again one of the more heartbreaking uh witnesses is his sister just
00:19:42.160talking about they talked all the time they were so close and he really just wanted to have this
00:19:50.200family. And he had had his first wife, according to the internet, had had some infidelity. So when
00:19:59.040he was with Corey, he wanted to have a more traditional family and he wanted to provide for
00:20:04.480her. They did, however, have a prenup. And as the lore goes, that prenup was signed maybe on their
00:20:12.580wedding day in 2013 and the prenup said something something along the lines of if they get divorced
00:20:20.700you she gets no money but if they're married and he dies she would get the money we're gonna take
00:20:27.060a quick break when we get back so much more okay we are back all right so they get married there's
00:20:40.340a prenup if he if they get divorced she gets nothing if he dies she gets money what happens
00:20:46.500next so she wants to work and he supports her in this but she she ain't the best with money
00:20:55.660she uh takes out a loan in his name doesn't tell him so there's some forgery along the way
00:21:02.960um there's some bailouts here i think at a time it was maybe the loan was
00:21:10.100again listeners uh helped me out here but i think it was about two hundred fifty thousand dollars
00:21:15.260um and they stayed together and his family's testimony says and i i've been thinking a lot
00:21:22.580about this too with the um secret lives of mormon wives is when you're in a relationship and you've
00:21:29.280already had a history of, um, maybe infidelity or maybe unrest in a previous relationship,
00:21:34.940you just want to make it work. So I have a lot of compassion for him, even though people might say,
00:21:41.580well, why didn't he just leave? And which is always the question that we're asked. And he
00:21:47.880wanted to believe the good in her. And he wanted that for his kids too, because now like the great
00:21:55.360tragedy of it all is now these kids are are parentless so uh he they still have heated
00:22:03.460arguments they still have some back and forth she had infidelity there is statement by her that he
00:22:11.920also had infidelity and those statements are golden because those are emails and letters
00:22:17.720and so much of this case is cory's emails letters and texts that if they were a fictional character
00:22:25.160we could delight in so much more because they are ridiculous in this is part of the reason i
00:22:32.480love this story so much because it is just so absurd yes like here is uh she wrote i'll get0.70
00:22:42.760to her ridiculous in a second anyway so basically what happens then is her he had talked to his
00:22:49.780loved ones he had talked to his sister he talked to some of his friends because cory needs to uh
00:22:56.300she's tried to buy this house in december and the closing date on it is march 4th so she has to come
00:23:03.540up with the money for this and she goes to a former housekeeper who's also her friend who also has
00:23:12.800struggled with drug addiction in the past and asks her to get her some pills and she tells it's for
00:23:18.340an investor or for a client that Corey's working with that she needed to get some drugs.
00:23:24.080So this woman went, let's see, her name is Carmelita and also Carmen. So she had gotten0.98
00:23:32.980her drugs three different times. The first time she got drugs, it was probably some sort of
00:23:39.780oxy. It was not what it came to in the beginning. The first person she got drugs with
00:23:47.840i was reading last night was actually my daughter's elementary's friend's mom and when we were0.88
00:23:57.280in my daughter was in elementary school i didn't have good vibes on this mom and i would only let
00:24:02.640the friend come to our house so um i did have a little bit of like i knew it i knew it thank you1.00
00:24:10.140hearing her name and but also i was very protective still even though this woman had sold drugs
00:24:17.600i like even listening to the court i'm like don't say her last name like everyone in the community
00:24:24.380is hearing this even though everyone in the community has already heard this to begin with
00:24:28.500so she sells her drugs they do an exchange she comes back and is like i'm gonna need something
00:24:34.860a little better uh and so carmen goes to another drug dealer and he gets her fentanyl and uh as
00:24:45.220the quote says some of the michael jackson stuff is what cory was looking for cory texted the drugs
00:24:52.320that i want are some of the michael jackson stuff meaning some of the kinds of drugs that we know
00:24:58.060killed michael jackson because she's trying to find because she's trying to find drugs to kill
00:25:01.720her husband right and which carmen carmen got off she got immunity um with her testimony um which
00:25:11.840okay if someone's saying give me that sweet death drug you're like really michael jackson death
00:25:19.380drug yes for a client fascinating so she gets her some more of the fentanyl and uh there's a house
00:25:27.720that is a drop-off point this house is not the murder house it's a smaller house in midway
00:25:32.760and this house was where they did the exchanges cory sold this house to a woman so she was one
00:25:40.520of the witnesses talking about when she sold the house like did you see drugs were there boxes in
00:25:46.980the house what did you see and it's a historic tiny house in midway which you have been here
00:25:53.780seeing the backdrop of this murder it very it is very idyllic here it is very a midway midway is
00:26:02.480yes it is a hallmark movie town in fact hallmark movies have been filmed there and it is also it
00:26:08.320also looks like a swiss village like it's ridiculous yes so usually the only white that's
00:26:14.460coating us is snow and not residue from drugs in multiple uh of cory's houses that she's flipped
00:26:21.780so they exchange the drugs ultimately she the second exchange she gives him a sandwich on
00:26:29.300valentine's day he has an immediate reaction to it he believes that he's having an allergic reaction
00:26:35.100so he takes some Benadryl goes to sleep but he did say to family members and to friends I think
00:26:41.680Cory's trying to kill me and here we have again with domestic abuse where people will say if you
00:26:48.900thought she was trying to kill you why would why wouldn't you leave and you really don't think
00:26:53.760someone you love is going to kill you and you really want to believe every time someone you
00:26:58.000love hurts you that this will be the last time and they show you every indication that that's
00:27:04.780going to be true in the beginning of the cycle and i'm just saying that because any of us who
00:27:11.060have been in some sort of toxic pattern like that or cycle so much of taylor frankie paul is on the
00:27:16.200mind right now and i just i don't want eric in all of this like his goodness hurt him um but i think
00:27:26.220he's he was still good in all of this so look at me getting defensive for a guy yay i know for a1.00
00:27:33.540man oh my gosh i'm never defensive for a man but you know what there's terrible women out there
00:27:38.600like women commit murder all the time and yeah yeah cory richards does not seem like the best0.97
00:27:43.160of human beings yeah i mean give me a nice dad as a coach i'll take that over an aggressive side0.89
00:27:49.880part any day of the week any day of the week so she fails she gives him her she gives her her0.52
00:27:54.280murder she gives it again she gives him the murdering death sandwich the death sandwich
00:27:58.740does not work out and so third time's a charm um a day or two before she murdered him the sister0.99
00:28:05.540had even come and they were having a domestic dispute and they were yelling at each other and
00:28:11.360everything and the sister said that she like stood between them so in this uh eric decides
00:28:16.760that cory is not his beneficiary and he has uh there's multiple testimonies about this but i
00:28:23.980believe that he had a trust in his name and that he had instructed his business partner that his
00:28:30.500part of the business goes to this trust and then his sister was also his what is it called a
00:28:36.680beneficiary what is beneficiary yeah right i think so um cory doesn't know this and so cory
00:28:43.500wants to celebrate that she's about to sign on this deal for this house and so she fixes him
00:28:49.960his drink. And like Chicago, some guys just can't handle their arsenic. And then said she went to
00:28:56.340bed to sleep with the kids and fell asleep in their room and that she woke up at three and he
00:29:01.200was cold to the touch. And now we can see the police body cam footage of how bananas she act1.00
00:29:08.940when she called the police. She called her mother next and her mother also came there.1.00
00:29:15.020and then his sister also came. And he was dead. And she says that he has taken a THC gummy that
00:29:23.600he would take to sleep. And so maybe it's something to do with the gummy. He died with
00:29:29.380five times the amount of the lethal dose of fentanyl. There is no gummy in the world. You
00:29:36.000could go to like the M&M store and get one of those life-size gummies. There is no gummy that
00:29:41.360would hold that much fentanyl in it to begin with. But that is her plan is, oh, they're going to
00:29:47.140think it's the THC gummy. So her mom also acts strangely and might be because Corey has taken a
00:29:56.600cue from her mother because her mother had her girlfriend who she lived with passed away in
00:30:05.120maybe 2006 in wasatch county and she died from an opiate overdose and uh mama murderer
00:30:14.360also was the beneficiary for her girlfriend so that case was already discussed in our town like
00:30:22.900oh everyone everyone knows about that that she probably killed her but because her girlfriend0.58
00:30:30.120had a history of drug abuse. It was a hard, hard case to argue. And so her mother has already
00:30:38.800benefited possibly from a poisoning. And so, and her mother's name is Lisa. So Lisa and Corey
00:30:46.720are crying, but they're also asking weird questions. And when Eric's sister shows up,
00:30:53.140she pulls the cop to the side and says, just so you know, I'm the beneficiary,
00:30:57.620which was even from the get we're suspicious of her so um eric has a funeral he did have a funeral
00:31:07.920in an lds church he uh they do an obituary i have screenshots of when they first posted the
00:31:15.840obituary because i was all like i was just following this as oh the sad story that this
00:31:22.800dad died in town and the comments in the obituary got a little interesting with people just saying
00:31:28.860well is it a loving wife like what's really going on so she proceeds to uh and i will say a quote
00:31:37.540unquote on this one write a picture book about grief to help her children in this trying time
00:31:44.140the year after his death and as she told good morning utah she just couldn't find any good
00:31:51.860picture books about grief so she had to give one for them and it was like your children aren't
00:31:56.320haunted enough let's let's do a ghost written haunting for you because this picture book
00:32:02.460features pictures of their dad in the clouds as an angel watching over them and all that they do
00:32:08.560this part is bananas okay like this was like all of this i was intrigued from the very beginning
00:32:13.560of this ever since you pulled over on the side of the road and was like we're like take a picture
00:32:17.620of this house but the fact so she slips him his his death cocktail kills him and then writes a
00:32:26.020picture book about grief for their children yes because if she's grieving then she couldn't have
00:32:32.920done it and also she clearly has narcissistic traits and so how is she going to put on the
00:32:42.540widow's shroud with this and not only look innocent, but get the attention for her, for her
00:32:48.260pain. So she goes, she uses a company, it's called Book Writing Lean. And it's an indie published
00:32:56.860company that also just writes the book for you. And by company, maybe robots, I'm not sure. But
00:33:02.980you could look at this website. And they have text exchange with the quote publisher about her
00:33:10.380writing this book so she even lied about writing the book about grief about her husband dying
00:33:17.120which of course she did but also oh my goodness come on it's and also this is the best they can
00:33:24.740give you you paid money because the book is awful and you can still get a story time of it if you
00:33:30.360look on youtube uh it's hard to find a copy obviously but you can have it read to you and
00:33:36.800And that's why I had nightmares last night. So she then goes on to the local Park City radio show. And she also goes on to, I believe it was Good Morning, Utah. Now, here's my part in that. I am a children's book author and I had a-
00:33:54.780are a wonderful author. Let's talk about some. We'll tout your books at the end of this, my
00:33:58.600friend. Yes. Thank you kindly. So my book came out May or June of that same year of 2023.
00:34:05.520And I had reached out to a friend who worked for this news station and had said, hey, I'd really
00:34:12.400love to get on the show to promote my book. And I had reached out maybe April, April, May, and they
00:34:19.580said, yeah, we'll talk to the producer. Well, meanwhile, in April, Corey goes on the show a
00:34:26.020year later in April of 2023 and talks about this book that she wrote and the reason she wrote this
00:34:33.220book. And yes, she's a murderer, but also everything she talks about writing this book is also a lie.
00:34:39.820And I reached out again in May because she was arrested in May. And I said, hey, I'm just
00:34:45.020following up can i get on that new show and uh i got a you know i think we're gonna pause on
00:34:51.640children's authors for a bit oh so yeah so cory richards took my spot on like i can side part of
00:35:01.100my hair i i it's an indie published book that she didn't even i like i was so bitter about that
00:35:07.480so that's what put it on my radar i get it from the get yeah yes so she was then arrested in may
00:35:16.240and that was in may of 2023 and she just recently served trial uh three years later and as far as
00:35:24.180the trial details the in between that's really like accessible information they she's had multiple
00:35:32.260attorneys uh they tried to change the location because it is a summit county is a small county
00:35:40.100and a lot of people either knew eric's family or his construction company or they had heard some
00:35:48.860like buzz about this we are the next county owner over i was not contacted to be on the jury
00:35:54.780um and i would have said no because i would have showed them my screenshots on my computer
00:36:02.160for the last three years reading about this case um right before she was arrested though that's
00:36:08.160one of those letters comes into play that she wrote a letter to the attorney to the cop and said
00:36:14.120i just want this over i just want our lives back to move on and to grieve and mourn my husband
00:36:18.620without looking over my shoulder constantly this is riddled with misspellings for you guys0.97
00:36:24.300or the idiotic private and guest investigator or the richards family whatever i can do to help0.99
00:36:30.780close this out. Just ask. I'll give you or tell you whatever you want to know. Please check with1.00
00:36:36.000the lab on those gummies. Corey Richens. So her case was he had fentanyl-laced gummies.
00:36:45.700And P.S. Chad, I hear you could ask, you know, our good friends. Our kids play soccer together.
00:36:51.940And then she goes on. Chad, the police officer or detective, I loved his response because he was
00:36:59.060like great cory thanks for keeping us posted like thanks for the update my friend we are we this is
00:37:06.000not delayed this is us getting everything into our arsenal because there you are going down and
00:37:13.360that was very interesting to me about this trial i also very oddly had my ex-husband was friends
00:37:21.580with Jodi Aris, Travis, who was killed by Jodi Aris, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago. So I watched
00:37:29.020that case as well. This case, what was interesting to me is there was no case. It was us watching to
00:37:36.720see, like, how did she botch this over and over and over and over again? Like, this is the sloppiest0.96
00:37:44.300murder slash cover-up that i have ever seen it's bananas my friend okay i want to take one more
00:37:52.880quick break and when we get back there was a verdict there was a verdict last week after i
00:37:57.420had already you know seen murder house and gotten done dirty by my dirty diet coke uh and so we'll
00:38:04.000tell everyone the conclusion when we get back from our last break
00:38:06.840okay we are back like i stumbled on the cory richard story just as it was as it was coming
00:38:20.780to a close as it was ending because the the verdict came down last week she was found she
00:38:26.440was found guilty to no one's surprise right yes and and there's there's it's too bad there wasn't
00:38:35.460even a little bit more of some sort of pushback. So it's like betting on a game and it's, you know,
00:38:43.160an NBA team playing a junior jazz. And it's very clear how this is going to go. It's almost as
00:38:52.120disappointing as looking at her search history. And you and I know search history does not nary
00:38:58.280a murderer make. It just makes... No, no. If you looked at my search history,
00:39:03.140especially for the past few weeks because i'm working on this dude ranch murder for hire plot
00:39:08.320and so i'm like which you also helped me with like we we did a lot of brainstorming around
00:39:13.160storylines when i was with you in midway but like my search history is how long would someone have
00:39:18.060to be locked in a sauna to burn to death yes yes and and we leave it there because i might have
00:39:25.540forgotten the answer to that so i actually have to go back to my search history to remember that
00:39:29.300Oh, no, I have to ask it over and over again. I'm like, what kind of tape could I use to bind someone's wrist?
00:39:36.100Yes. And that is useful information because you're actually writing a smarter murderer than the one that we are discussing now.
00:39:43.100And so her queries, that's the thing. Like me, like as a murder thriller writer, would never fuck something up this badly.
00:39:51.740Yeah. Her queries were, what was in her search history?
00:39:55.060What constituted a fail in my amount of the substance used?
00:39:57.940what is the cause of passing is it listed on official records she also searched luxury prisons
00:40:04.300for the rich in america how long life insurance takes to pay you and whether deleted texts can
00:40:10.500be received and that that whether police can force a lie detector test wow wow also all things that
00:40:18.620i've searched at some point but i'm also not planning on murdering my husband right and also
00:40:24.280i mean luxury prisons luxury looking out for someone yeah right exactly exactly wow yeah i
00:40:32.560mean she didn't even she didn't even try to commit the perfect crime is the thing at all i mean this
00:40:38.560it truly is and i asked you when i first heard about it i was like is there a true crime podcast0.98
00:40:42.840about this like like it it would it would be a podcast about the stupidest criminal in america
00:40:48.760yeah and it couldn't be a serialized podcast it would be an episode because which is why we're0.97
00:40:54.780doing at a point you're shaking your head and just like she did it and there's there's not a
00:41:01.200lot of surprises i mean most of the surprises for me was just reading about it and i would like
00:41:06.080one of her victims she had a best friend that she said she was going to buy a house for her
00:41:11.680and the friend gave her her life savings of like forty thousand dollars and she bought the house
00:41:17.000for Corey and then didn't tell that, you know, it wasn't her friend's house. And her friends
00:41:21.700actually had someone come to the house and say, Hey, we just bought this house. You need to leave.0.97
00:41:26.240And so she lost her house, lost her life savings and lost and murdered her friend.
00:41:30.840And she, on her Facebook page, her profile picture is at Halloween. And in the picture,
00:41:36.660she's standing in front of my house in the background. So I have, I, I don't know Corey
00:41:42.680Richens I live in the next county over from her but we are all haunted in different ways and that
00:41:49.440two degrees of Mormon bacon that exists here and the coincidences of it all makes for a very0.87
00:41:54.180interesting small town interaction and small town murder too oh yeah yeah no I mean I love the idea
00:42:02.460of combining like a hallmark movie with a small town murder like are you a person that loves cozy
00:42:07.980romance and also true crime have i got the movie for you yes and i am working on a small town
00:42:16.320murder mystery now i just need all of the small town to slow down a little bit for me so i can
00:42:22.380catch up because every time something happens in town someone's like are you going to put this in
00:42:27.000your book and at this point i'm like i'm not writing a small town encyclopedia like this is
00:42:33.220or how-to guide of how to, I guess, Hallmark Meets Murder is kind of lifetime, right?
00:42:39.960Hallmark Meets Murder is kind of lifetime. Yeah. I mean, seriously, like, you are trying to write
00:42:44.020this small-town murder that is, you know, vaguely set in your town. You have to be like, can people
00:42:49.820stop murdering? Stop murdering so I can just write this book? Yes, because they're gonna know. I was
00:42:56.460quick to put uh poison in the scones that they served at this festival and now it's like who0.96
00:43:04.940who hasn't put poison in a scone who hasn't who hasn't five times dose of moscow mule
00:43:10.720easy mistake so tricky so tricky girl oh i love it i love it so much i love it i love midway i love
00:43:18.600you i love your bookstore folklore being a bookstore owner is relatively new for you
00:43:25.160So as an author, why did you decide to open your own bookstore, says the girl who just bought a vintage book trailer?
00:43:31.220As an author, you know, you have this podcast, which it gets you, you're at least shouting out of your cave to other people, but it's a very solitary job.
00:43:42.000And especially during COVID, it became an even more solitary job because we had less in-person events, less conferences, and I missed my writing community.
00:43:52.880And I moved here in Midway in 2015, and I got married in 2016. I'm about to have my 10-year
00:44:00.400anniversary to my good husband. And I kind of struggled with some of the intensity of the
00:44:09.520culture here. Even though I'd grown up a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
00:44:14.780it was very different from my hometown of Las Vegas. So I didn't want to go out of my house,
00:44:22.160And I didn't really want to get to know my neighbors and trust them because I had that.
00:44:31.620Are they supporting some reality star that I would just like to change the channel?
00:44:38.120What are the differences between us?0.97
00:44:40.160But what the bookstore has given me is, first of all, I opened it with two also amazing women, female business owners.
00:44:47.960And we have all gotten community from this.
00:44:51.400And I've met people that I wouldn't have met otherwise because I had never left my cave.
00:44:56.340And we've helped facilitate this third space in a very, very red state.
00:45:02.100I feel like we're kind of this like sweet purple dot that in a place where, you know, we have many hardworking trad wife influencers around us, too.
00:45:16.660And so I really felt that that was valuable.
00:45:20.180I don't know how it's going to help me then go back to my author career and start focusing on
00:45:25.840that again. But you and I even talked about this when you're out here. It's just it's a business
00:45:30.680of relationships and we can plan for our career and be very savvy. But I feel like so much of
00:45:37.760that savvy comes from organic connection, empathy, like we met and it's yeah, I'll stay up and have
00:45:47.720a nightmare about Corey Richens would be on your podcast because we never know what spaghetti
00:45:54.080we're throwing on the wall, how it's going to stick. And so I don't know if that's going to
00:45:58.080parlay in, but I know me as a person and also finding a way to stay in my community and matter
00:46:05.200in my community and have my community finally matter for me, I've gotten all of that from the
00:46:10.120bookstore. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, I think that third spaces are more and more important
00:46:16.280than ever these days and the community of women that you brought to my everyone is lying to event
00:46:22.700it was such a great event and we had we had your friends they made these gorgeous bouquets for us
00:46:28.800let's tell everyone let's tell everyone about them so they can follow them yes so my friend
00:46:33.600she owns flower barco at it's flower barco on instagram she did uh hand hand tied uh dried
00:46:42.280flower bouquets for us they were so gorgeous so gorgeous our theme and uh she often she is our
00:46:49.320resident florin she's also one of my best friends and uh she's one of my co-owner allison's best
00:46:54.320friends so when we were even coming up with the ice idea doing a bookshop it was going to be a
00:46:59.700bookshop and a flower shop next door to each other so uh she's a single mom she moved here too a lot
00:47:05.680of people who moved to midway are kind of somehow 2.0ing their life finding um healing finding a
00:47:12.580new beginning and so that's been really cool that i've shared that with her and she brought these
00:47:17.640bouquets for us we also had some june pies served there which is an excellent local bakery
00:47:22.880and we also had a soda bar too which i did not yes which was kind of you i had already soda barred
00:47:29.920you. And then it was like last call and, and you didn't take it. Congratulations. And I want to say
00:47:36.060one thing about your event, which was one of the most fantastic events we've had. I, it was really
00:47:41.300fun to kind of stand to the side, but still stand in the front and watch the audience. I love doing
00:47:47.460that with kids during story time, but I felt like this was like grown up mom story time because
00:47:55.540because everything you told them, every antidote, every comment, they were wrapped and they
00:48:01.500absolutely loved. And you taught me too, even how you pitched your Dude Ranch story. I went home
00:48:06.400that night and thought, I need to write a story that can be pitched just like that. And you can
00:48:11.360talk about what your origin is and you know where you're going with it. And I have had multiple
00:48:15.840customers ask me when that book is coming out. And I said, well, she finished it here. So it's
00:48:22.520got some time. Yeah, I finished it at your store. Yes. And also in the hot tub with you. And it's
00:48:30.200that summer 2027 after Parisian Heist. But people can also order Parisian Heist from you from
00:48:35.940a woman owned bookstore and you will you'll send it out, right? We'll send it out and we can send1.00
00:48:43.480anything with it as well. We'll have those signed by you. So we've had already quite a bit of
00:48:49.700pre-orders i'm very excited about that book i'm so excited about that book i love all your books
00:48:55.240too they're timely but it's like you catch the time before the time even happens it's you writing
00:49:00.720this parisian heist it's like you're kind of making things happen you're like never-ending
00:49:05.720story or something you're you're writing it and then it's begetting i know i know i should write
00:49:11.200something pleasant actually i should write a happy future for the world and then they all woke up and
00:49:16.700it was just a dream and it was just a dream it was just it never happened hillary was elected
00:49:21.10020 years ago uh yeah exactly well also tell everyone about your children's books because
00:49:26.280now i'm in the midst of of working on my first middle grade grade novel so i'm gonna have to
00:49:32.020take all of your expertise too yes so my my recent titles are the garden just beyond and
00:49:38.200that's about a family who in the new jersey pine parents who have a magical garden behind their
00:49:44.760house that the fruits and vegetables change people's emotions so the town is humble hollow
00:49:51.320it's very stars hollow midway-esque and they have all these quirky characters around them
00:49:58.640but it's mostly about legacy it's about grief and it's about when you have power what do you do with
00:50:07.160it and so do you commodify it like they start to do where they charge people for these mills that
00:50:12.700can change their lives? Or is that something that should, you know, should we own power or
00:50:18.520should it be shared with all? And then my second title that's more recent is called North of
00:50:23.320Supernova. And that is a reverse parent trap book about a girl whose dad comes home from a Las Vegas
00:50:29.820business trip, says he's met his college girlfriend again. They're moving to Vegas for the summer and
00:50:34.320he's getting married. So she and her future stepsister to be decide they're going to break
00:50:38.860up their parents and they use that. They do that through psychics, tarot cards, trying to just find
00:50:45.340out what the future is because she has a lot of anxiety and she's trying to get some sort of0.91
00:50:50.960control. Both of them are incredible. I'm going to put links to everything in our show notes.
00:50:56.440Thank you so much for joining us today, Lindsay. It was delightful. And also it's delightful to
00:51:00.920listen to you it's you are everything that people hear and more in person and i can i'm excited to
00:51:09.140just continue to get to know you through your podcast and then continue to stalk you relentlessly
00:51:13.580yes same ditto to you my friend ditto to you