Under the Influence (with Jo Piazza) - March 02, 2025


Sunday Nice Things： How to Build a Bookish Community

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00:00:00.000 Hello. Joe here. You're listening to Sunday Nice Things with Under the Influence.
00:00:14.280 I'm feeling pretty good this Sunday. I had a great night's sleep last night. I have been
00:00:20.040 staying away from the news as much as one can possibly stay away from the news this
00:00:25.480 weekend, and I just, I feel, I got a lot done. I got a lot done. Last week, I wrote a sub stack
00:00:35.940 on the Over the Influence sub stack called What Do We Do With All of This Rage? And I wrote it
00:00:42.600 when I woke up in the middle of the night and raged because I am waking up in the middle of
00:00:47.540 the night filled with rage right now. I'm also waking up in the morning filled with rage. And
00:00:51.820 it's something I haven't felt in a really long time. It's exhausting. It's breaking my brain
00:01:02.040 on a regular basis. And a lot of you really responded to this newsletter. I think I wrote
00:01:12.000 it just for myself, right? To just put the rage out there. And that's what so many of you said.
00:01:19.280 so many of you responded and just said, same, same, same, same. I feel this deeply. So much
00:01:26.200 rage. I'm so mad right now. And I'm bringing this up just to say, I think we're all in this
00:01:35.420 together. I think we're all feeling all of the feelings. But one thing that was really uplifting
00:01:42.340 to me was, was people talking about what they're doing to, to escape the rage. I mean, meds. Yes.
00:01:49.880 Yes. I increased, increased my dose of sertraline. Uh, people also said a lot of
00:01:57.040 lifting weights, getting outside, uh, planning my garden, planning my garden inspired me. I'm
00:02:04.940 going to do a rooftop garden. This year, I just, Nick Astor is building some raised bed planters,
00:02:12.700 which I'm very, very excited about. People also told me that they're walking their dogs more.
00:02:18.800 They're going to school board meetings. Another thing that I've been very inspired to do. I'm
00:02:24.420 attending my local school board meeting. I'm attending my local school board meeting next
00:02:28.840 month. And then a big one, a big one from people is building and maintaining community offline.
00:02:37.760 Now, I have been staying away from my phone much more than usual. I have always had the time
00:02:44.160 limits on Instagram, but I've recently actually been paying attention to them because usually
00:02:49.260 it's just like, we've reached a limit. Oh, okay. Would you like to click this button and you can
00:02:52.980 ignore your limit? And then I'm like, yeah, of course I want to finish what I was doing.
00:02:55.400 No, I stick to my limits now. So I've been thinking a lot about building community
00:03:00.260 offline. My book club hasn't met in two years. We are now just a group text. And I know that I am
00:03:07.920 not alone in this. This happens to a lot of book clubs. We're just a group text to be like,
00:03:12.200 look at this funny meme. Does anyone have an inflatable mattress I can borrow?
00:03:17.380 I'm reviving my book club. I'm pushing my book club to get back in person. It's a thing that
00:03:23.060 I'm definitely going to do. Someone told me the other day that they have a book club of just two.
00:03:27.900 It's them and their sister. And I love this idea because you know what? A book club doesn't have
00:03:32.360 to be 10 people. You don't have to have a big, big, massive thing around it. It could just be
00:03:38.260 you and one friend going to have a drink or going for a walk and talking about the same book.
00:03:44.360 That's so wonderful. My guest today is Robin Call, who is something of a genius of creating
00:03:51.640 community around books? For decades, she has been running a reading community called Reading with
00:03:57.860 Robin up in Rhode Island. She brings in some of the best authors in the world. I've been with her
00:04:04.440 twice now, and she's just so good at getting people together around books. She'll walk up to
00:04:12.000 anyone, anyone that she thinks might be a reader, and say, hey, come hang out with me at this book
00:04:18.820 event. It's incredible. It really is. And so I wanted to get some of her tips for how to build
00:04:24.560 a bookish community. And we're also going to talk about how to model a bookish and reading life
00:04:32.160 for your kids, which is something I want for my kids. And with the increase of so much of our
00:04:38.000 words on phones and screens, I think modeling that gets harder and harder. So Robin and I are
00:04:43.780 going to dig into how she modeled for her kids, what I'm doing to model reading for my kids.
00:04:49.280 And it's just a lovely talk to escape all of the rage. But now, now, now I do have to go to a
00:04:58.340 seven-year-old's basketball game, which is a room that is filled with rage-filled dads screaming at
00:05:05.940 seven-year-olds and volunteer refs, which is a whole other episode of this podcast. Enjoy listening
00:05:13.280 to Robin. Happy Sunday. Hello, Robin. Jo, it is such a treat to chat with you today. It's always
00:05:21.860 a treat to chat with you. I'm having you on today because you've built this really powerful
00:05:28.160 community of readers up in Rhode Island. And I want to hear how you did it because I talk to
00:05:35.820 people all the time who want to build community, are eager to gather people in real life, and they
00:05:43.220 don't know where to start. And you've been so successful with bringing in the biggest names
00:05:48.480 in publishing, the biggest authors to Rhode Island, to this tiny, tiny, but beautiful state.
00:05:55.620 And how do you get your friends, your neighborhood members just to show up in a third space to talk
00:06:02.020 about books? Well, firstly, I don't go to my friends. Those, they're useless.
00:06:05.880 beginning when I first started doing events I counted on friends and then quickly realized
00:06:13.540 you know short of my friends who are really readers that grew old really fast so that is a
00:06:20.280 good place to start people that know you and that might be interested for that sense then it's it
00:06:28.800 was so for me word of mouth and then also I did have a radio show so when I was hosting the radio
00:06:35.400 show for 12 years on air in the studio, I built that audience and translated that into an in-person
00:06:43.100 event space because we figured, hey, I always enjoyed planning events and bringing people
00:06:52.740 together for all different things that I'm passionate about. And the first event we did
00:06:57.560 was with Jennifer Weiner in 2004 for Little Earthquakes, I think. And I approached it like
00:07:06.100 an event. I was like, I don't know, I guess I sell tickets and I reach out to the people I know.
00:07:10.580 It is first, that is the first step is the people that you know. And then it was their friends and
00:07:16.040 tapping into book clubs. And I will talk to anybody who looks like they might be a reader.
00:07:23.340 I literally. Wait, how do you how do you identify readers? I just have a sense. And then, you know
00:07:30.240 what, if you're wrong, who cares? Like I have my kids loved when I used to do this. I'd say like,
00:07:35.920 you look like a reader. And and I would say nine times out of 10, someone would say, yeah, how did
00:07:40.240 you know? I'm like, I don't know. I just know. Like, I'm not afraid to just talk to strangers.
00:07:44.920 And then I would give them my my bookmark with my information and or take their email. So it was
00:07:52.300 really very one-on-one. If somebody was out in the wild anywhere with a book, I would approach them
00:07:59.060 and say like, hey, oh my God, what are you reading? A few times that I got into trouble once it was
00:08:03.480 like their AA Bible or the Bible. And I was like, oh, enjoy the actual Bible. Okay. Yeah. So I'd be 0.81
00:08:11.300 like, oh, how's that turn out? I don't want to spoil the end. So there was some of that, but
00:08:19.320 But anytime, sometimes I would see a group of like women that look like they probably were readers and I'd be like, it's a club. And sometimes the answer was yes. Or sometimes it was no, but we were thinking about it or we're just friends. And I would just say like, you know, this is what I'm doing. And people always interested. I never got someone that looked at me and said, you know, can you what? You know, so I still have people come to events and remind me where I met them. 0.56
00:08:45.520 I also have asked other friends to, you know, do you know book clubs? And this is not to say my events are book club focused, really, but that is a way to get seven or eight readers together. And then, you know, you just multiply it out. It's a good way to build an audience.
00:09:04.820 and I'm very persistent and we did a lot of really fun events and people just want to be
00:09:14.680 around that energy but now it's gotten to the point where there's you know I have a very large
00:09:19.380 email list and wrote we have Rhode Island and Massachusetts Connecticut like you know nearby
00:09:25.300 and then just readers from all over the country so when I travel I sometimes will meet up with
00:09:31.020 readers and you know it's all relationship building and you know like you were saying
00:09:35.940 about building community that's really important to me and I think that it it resonates with people
00:09:42.320 and whatever I've ever been interested in I like to sort of build that community and I and I really
00:09:50.600 love it and a lot of the communities do cross over you know so I know some of the knitting people
00:09:58.060 There are also readers, like the ladies who like to drink wine.
00:10:01.700 So then there's the wine clubs.
00:10:02.980 Like, I'm always thinking, you know, who else wants to be involved with this?
00:10:07.440 And the satisfaction and pride and, like, literally pure joy of getting emails or cards or messages from people who are like, you got me interested in reading again.
00:10:19.420 Or, you know, I've met new friends.
00:10:21.840 I've come alone to your events.
00:10:23.200 I've left with friends, people that they stay connected to.
00:10:26.680 because it's been over 20 years there's a lot of stories joe and so i just love it you know um
00:10:34.360 and i do i genuinely i genuinely believe that books bring people together
00:10:38.920 absolutely and in in a really unique way and there's there's just an energy in the room when
00:10:47.320 you're talking about books and yeah yeah because people are thinking they're thinking about what
00:10:53.280 you're talking about. It also, there's always reminders of other books they've loved through
00:10:58.280 the years. There are people sharing their favorite titles and you can see the, you can feel the
00:11:04.680 energy, you can see the excitement and people are, I love watching people jot things down or,
00:11:10.120 you know, tap into their phones or whatever, because there's so much, there's so much sharing
00:11:15.960 of beloved books. And I get messages afterwards, like what, what was that author talking about?
00:11:21.660 What were those books? You know, I'm very, I'm very good at following up and closing loops. And, you know, if I say I'm going to do something or follow up on an author or see if we can get so-and-so to come to Rhode Island, I do it. And I think that builds trust and connection, you know, no matter what you're interested in doing.
00:11:40.900 But yeah, books absolutely bring people together and it's something, you know, you're doing for yourself. When I'm reading a book, I'm in it, you know, and that is all I'm really doing. You know, that is especially exactly what I'm doing. I'm not thinking about other things or I'd have to just keep rereading.
00:12:00.140 So I think, I know we're talking about self-care and reading, that is one of the things that is, you know, just like the best, sinking in to some space with a book and just it's you and the book and the world of the story.
00:12:15.740 It's like magical.
00:12:18.220 That's what I want to talk about next.
00:12:20.000 I just wrote a substack on my rage.
00:12:21.980 I'm just so enraged all the time.
00:12:24.620 And I love my life too, right?
00:12:27.800 I've reached this point in my life that I'm really happy with. And the world is so enraging
00:12:34.460 that it feels very difficult to be, to enjoy it, to enjoy it. And then I'm more enraged about that
00:12:42.380 because I'm like, I have worked so hard to enjoy this and I can't right now. So I want, and I'm
00:12:51.280 trying to do more things to take care of myself. I want to hear about reading and self-care and why
00:12:55.700 you think that's so important. Okay, we're back. Is reading self-care for you? I mean,
00:13:08.800 it's also kind of a job because you organize these events, but do you still love it and enjoy it?
00:13:14.520 Absolutely. The day I stop enjoying it and loving it because, you know, job is sort of a loose
00:13:20.820 definition of, I'm not exactly sure what the definition is, but it's something I have created.
00:13:26.520 So I am now, yeah, it's my thing. You know, I'm going to do this thing and I spend a lot of time
00:13:32.940 at it. And if it no longer served me or the joy was gone at this point in my life, you know,
00:13:42.240 it would be hard to say I'm not doing this, but that is what I would do. I've certainly,
00:13:46.780 I'm aware enough to know what it is you know what this is giving me what this is doing for
00:13:53.300 my energy and truly self-care because I carve out that time in my day to read so I know which
00:14:03.360 authors I want to bring together what the maybe what the topic is around a book or something
00:14:09.940 that's important to me that I want to be able to have conversations about the book is a good way
00:14:14.760 So I really do, for me, think that reading is absolutely self-care. And from all of the readers who talk about not necessarily the escape. I mean, I know that's something that people will share. And then, you know, that is an escape.
00:14:31.720 I mean, as you say, this is a crazy time and it could feel not self-indulgent, really, because like what if you don't take care of yourself, you have no energy for the other things.
00:14:45.720 And that is just a true thing. So reading for me is something that's really vital to my happiness.
00:14:53.100 It always has been since, you know, I was a child.
00:14:56.940 It is a consistent through line for me.
00:15:00.240 So it is hard to shut out the noise and the worries.
00:15:06.140 And so maybe some days it's less reading time than others, depending on what's calling to attention, my attention.
00:15:13.580 But it is something that I put front and center, you know, where other people might put, you know, other activities front and center.
00:15:22.460 Reading is something that I would just be so sad if I didn't have it in my life.
00:15:27.760 Yeah, I hear from a lot of women, especially moms, that they only read, you know, at night before bed because they feel guilty doing it during any other times during the day.
00:15:41.180 And that is even true of me, which is insane because this is my job.
00:15:46.260 Right.
00:15:47.420 So when do you read?
00:15:48.780 How do you fit this into your life?
00:15:50.980 My little golden rule is to always have a book wherever.
00:15:55.780 So there's always something in my bag.
00:15:58.440 I have something in the car in case like I switch a bag, you know.
00:16:02.620 So like I really, it would be very sad if I were to find myself someplace, whether it's
00:16:08.840 waiting, you know, for an appointment or being online somewhere if I didn't have my book.
00:16:14.900 That's kind of a standing joke in this family.
00:16:17.200 If somebody's, like, stuck or something's delayed, well, you have a book, so you're fine, you know?
00:16:23.200 I love to read early in the morning.
00:16:26.140 The early morning quiet time is one of my favorite times.
00:16:30.400 And depending on the day, you know, the way the day is set up, if there's time during the day, I love reading when I'm more focused, right?
00:16:41.620 Later in the day and at night, forget at night.
00:16:44.160 That just would not work for me.
00:16:45.940 It's lulling.
00:16:47.200 But, you know, if I'm engrossed in a book and I just can't wait to see what's going to happen next, I'll just plunk myself down for a few hours in the afternoon and read, you know, and I do love to read over the week, you know, the weekends.
00:17:01.860 And I managed to get to maybe two books in a week, maybe three, depends.
00:17:06.840 But when there's a book, like when I was reading The Sicilian Inheritance because I know I was texting you or messaging you, I read that so fast.
00:17:14.480 And, you know, so I just was like, yeah, I'm giving myself all these hours on this day or two days, whatever it was, because I had to know what was going to happen.
00:17:24.880 I was so invested in the story.
00:17:26.740 And when I am doing something else and I know that I have that book waiting for me, that really brings a lot of endorphins, I guess.
00:17:37.440 You know, it's very exciting.
00:17:38.760 So, yeah, I don't I don't have the I'm not the kind of person that's very scheduled anyway.
00:17:43.960 I don't, you know, mark off one to three, four days a week to make sure I get my reading.
00:17:48.420 And it's really when that need calls to me, unless I'm on a deadline for something.
00:17:56.300 Yeah.
00:17:56.980 Well, I think that advice is really great to have books within reach.
00:18:00.640 Always.
00:18:01.660 Yeah.
00:18:02.000 All of the time.
00:18:03.140 I was going to Charlie's basketball game the other day.
00:18:09.160 And when he is playing, I am paying attention. 0.96
00:18:12.440 the restaurant i don't give a shit okay so like and i but i don't want to be on my phone and so 0.96
00:18:18.340 and we were walking from swim lessons to the basketball and i made sure we detoured so i 0.82
00:18:23.980 could stop it a little free yeah i would have a book with me so it's top of mind for you yeah
00:18:30.260 you know it's funny when my son was playing little league um and i always had a book and i'm also
00:18:35.580 social so i'm talking to the other you know parents but i remember many times somebody saying
00:18:42.240 to me david's up attention you know and i was like okay now i'm paying attention okay now he's done
00:18:49.420 his thing back to my book because you know it's yeah exactly i mean i want the other little boys
00:18:54.580 to do well but like i'm not here for them no no no no no that's i mean and i always love your
00:19:01.100 honesty. I mean, that's how I comport myself because it's just true. It is a team sport and
00:19:07.640 you're there to watch your kid for the most part. And it can be long. It can be long watching those
00:19:14.140 games. So I would always have that. That would be the idea of having a book in the car just in case
00:19:20.660 you grab a different tote bag or a pocketbook or whatever. And I usually have one upstairs by my
00:19:27.280 bed in case I don't feel like going back down to get the one I was really in the middle of you know
00:19:32.440 so there's always there's always a book and uh yeah and I don't necessarily like being in the
00:19:40.700 middle of more than one and the exception is I don't I don't love it but I can do two yes I
00:19:47.280 absolutely do two if it means you know like well here I am without the book but I'm happy to have
00:19:54.900 a book and then, you know, I can sort of remember where I am in each one. But it's it's and it goes
00:20:02.360 back to I mean, I remember as kids, like if we were getting in the car to go to a dentist appointment
00:20:07.620 or whatever, my mother would always say, can someone run up and get my book? Like and that is
00:20:12.000 such a happy memory for me because she didn't take a lot of time for herself. And reading was that
00:20:17.800 time. And I remember like I'd always be the one running up and it would be like right. And I would
00:20:24.060 know which the book was we were always very aware of the jacket she didn't read while we were all
00:20:31.320 doing things it was like her own time you know it wasn't like i'm reading she was you know so
00:20:37.680 but you saw her you saw her reading oh yes and and her books surround me in in my in my home
00:20:47.520 they're scattered around on different shelves so that if you know i'm just looking up or looking
00:20:53.380 around. They're always there around me. It's very comforting. And those are books that I remember,
00:20:59.820 like I said, her, you know, taking out and having upstairs or bringing downstairs all that, you
00:21:05.740 know, bringing us to all of those activities and having that time in the car that way. So it's,
00:21:13.660 and it's something that I've passed down to my children, really modeling it. I don't think I,
00:21:19.840 I know I never had to say, you know, is everybody reading?
00:21:23.920 I was like, they, just a thing that they do.
00:21:26.840 And they're, you know, they're always watching.
00:21:29.200 And for kids that aren't interested at some age, they could come to it another.
00:21:33.900 You know, it's not, not to worry.
00:21:36.380 It's not the same for everybody.
00:21:37.800 But modeling that absolutely encourages more reading at different levels, at different
00:21:44.620 times, perhaps, depending on, you know, if they're reading what they're very interested
00:21:49.280 in.
00:21:49.840 which is which i think is which i think is so important too and that's usually my response
00:21:55.760 to women who say but i have so much else to do but parenting job stuff but i think that reading
00:22:02.640 in front of your kids is part of parenting because they see you with a book instead of staring at
00:22:07.940 your phone like what what what is more productive you scrolling instagram are you reading a book
00:22:14.260 in terms of what you're modeling for your kids?
00:22:16.560 It's absolutely one of those things I always joke,
00:22:19.920 you know, we find out through the years
00:22:21.880 that something wasn't what we thought was great
00:22:24.680 or, you know, the data change, science changes data,
00:22:28.300 but I'm like, they will just never say,
00:22:30.740 it will never be said that reading
00:22:32.360 is not a healthy activity.
00:22:35.100 And it is absolutely something I saw
00:22:39.000 with my kids in school.
00:22:41.000 And, you know, I have my own feelings
00:22:43.000 about standardized testing. However, they did do really well. I mean, I attribute a lot of
00:22:48.060 their success and their passions in general to the things they were reading, which was
00:22:54.420 in this house, literally anything you want to read. Different for movies, you know, not,
00:23:01.280 you know, it was pretty lenient, but I had a lot more, you know, I had standards there,
00:23:07.280 but books, I was like, go for it, pick anything you want. I don't care. Just be reading. And it,
00:23:12.800 it absolutely has done what I had hoped. And, you know, having lifelong readers and always
00:23:24.000 being curious and picking up books that you wouldn't think you might takes all of us,
00:23:30.560 you know, into other possibilities. So it's just, just love reading, Jo. I'm so glad you
00:23:38.020 had me on to talk about this and that all is self-care you know I is self-care it truly truly
00:23:44.200 is it's self-care it's modeling reading for our kids and you know I just I was tearing up a little
00:23:52.040 bit hearing you talk about your mom and and having having her books close by because I just I want
00:23:59.560 to make sure that I do that I want to make sure that I prioritize that especially with the world
00:24:03.660 as weird as it is right now just think books are more important than ever yeah it's something that
00:24:10.820 is such it's a passion it's it's a known fabulous thing to do for ourselves for our children who are
00:24:20.240 as we know always watching and I look at these spines of books that were on shelves in my
00:24:28.840 childhood home as bits of art all over the house into some of them are vignettes of specifically
00:24:36.720 my mother. Some of them are interspersed with some of my favorites. And I don't care if somebody
00:24:42.600 takes one and looks at it and puts it in the wrong space. That's not a thing. And I just like having
00:24:50.440 them around like framed photos or like, you know, bits of what really matters to me.
00:25:00.280 Yeah. So I don't know if my kids will ever be able to take all of mine, which I pared down as
00:25:07.700 much as possible. But I know, I mean, Emily will say, oh, I remember you read that like in the
00:25:13.700 late 90s. Or I remember you read that when we moved into this house. Like they connect certain
00:25:18.740 books with different time periods so um i i am i'm very pleased that this has meant so much to
00:25:29.280 the kids and my nieces and nephews too um always aunt robin do you know this book can you get me
00:25:35.960 this book do you know this author and it's it's encouraged all of them um so you know what what
00:25:45.440 book recommendations do you have for people right now that they can get right now? Because you read
00:25:51.300 a lot of books in advance, and so do I. So I always forget what is available.
00:25:55.620 Right. Oh, Joe, it is the trickiest question because you're right. I mean, I can say we had
00:26:01.660 Fiona Davis here last month and The Stolen Queen, which I loved. Her historical fiction was so,
00:26:09.540 So there was so much to that book. And we actually have a Zoom that we're doing with her tomorrow night. I don't know when this clip is going to air, but that, you know, we had that. We also had Lisa Genova here and we talked about more or less Maddie, which was her, that's her latest book.
00:26:29.440 and it deals with a bipolar diagnosis and the family, you know, as all of her books deal with
00:26:36.040 some, you know, different diagnoses. And I love Tova Mervis' We Would Never.
00:26:47.200 That came out a couple of weeks ago, and it is such a thought-provoking thrill of a ride
00:26:55.760 and based on the nugget of a true crime story.
00:27:00.920 And I just loved it.
00:27:03.180 And then, so that's three.
00:27:05.180 That's pretty good, right?
00:27:06.420 And also Too Soon, Betty Shamaya, 1.00
00:27:08.820 who we have coming to our series next month,
00:27:12.280 I so loved.
00:27:14.380 So those are out.
00:27:16.080 These are all books that I haven't heard of.
00:27:18.520 Oh, I'm so happy to share.
00:27:20.440 Then I'm really happy.
00:27:22.040 I'm even happier.
00:27:23.820 Those are, oh yeah, Tova Mervis' We Would Never. It's about a divorce and what a family might or might not do to make sure their family member is able to have their children with them.
00:27:40.940 And I don't want to, I never, ever want to ruin anything, but it was just riveting. And the true crime story is, the person who's charged with something, I don't want to ruin anything again, is like currently, it's in court right now.
00:27:59.120 So it was like really interesting timing. But yeah, it's called We Would Never and more or less Maddie and The Stolen Queen are the three most recent ones.
00:28:10.760 Because as you mentioned, I'm reading Summer, Fall.
00:28:15.180 You're reading ahead. You're reading ahead right now.
00:28:17.020 Always reading ahead. So I did try.
00:28:20.020 No, that was perfect. That was so good. Those are books that I haven't heard.
00:28:22.820 Well, actually, that's a lie. I haven't heard of most of those books, but I did blurb The Stolen Queen.
00:28:29.120 And people can join the Zooms from all over the country.
00:28:31.460 So will you tell people how they can follow you and find out about them?
00:28:34.900 Sure.
00:28:35.380 Thank you.
00:28:35.920 They can go to Reading with Robin on Facebook, send me a message.
00:28:41.180 They can go to robincall.com and sign up for a newsletter.
00:28:46.240 And then I will send out a group message to remind people of the link.
00:28:51.420 And on Instagram, I'm robincallinc.
00:28:54.000 They can slide into my DMs and I will send them the link.
00:28:59.120 Yeah. Any of those ways. If you put Robin, Rhode Island books, I should come right away and feel free to reach out and I will get people the links and they can join. They're happy to have everybody join in.
00:29:14.260 I love that. I love that so much. This was such a nice Sunday. Nice things. Thank you for being here.
00:29:19.600 Oh, thank you so much for having me. I was really looking forward to this. And, you know, your presence here in Rhode Island had a wonderful shelf life. People just so enjoyed it. And I'm thrilled that there's a new book coming and we can have more.
00:29:38.660 I'll be up there this summer for Everyone is Lying to You. We just have to figure out a date. I'm going to bring my kids up. We're going to take them to the beach. We're going to make this one.
00:29:45.480 that's so fun every the titles everyone is lying to you everyone is lying to you and you know what
00:29:52.280 it is it is available for pre-order right now but wait with the price of eggs so high who wants to
00:29:58.300 pre-order books books last forever and eggs you know you digest them i digest them everyone is
00:30:07.000 lying to you such a great title
00:30:08.820 Thank you.
00:30:38.820 Thank you.