Under the Influence (with Jo Piazza) - October 26, 2023


Would You Pick Your Kids Nose on Instagram? With Mom Uncharted

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00:00:01.000 Hello. Hello, hello, hello. The world is crazy right now, but it is so good to be here with
00:00:08.380 you talking about something really gross. Yeah, gross. This episode is kind of kind 0.94
00:00:15.380 of icky. So to start off, I have a question for you. What is the grossest thing that you
00:00:22.680 have ever put up online of your kid? And you can be honest, we are all friends here. And
00:00:29.080 you don't have to say it out loud. Is it a messy food video? Is it a poop blowout? Boogers? Vomit?
00:00:39.140 Or nothing. Maybe it's nothing at all. But some parents, in fact a lot of parents, are putting
00:00:46.160 really gross shit of their kids online every single day. And millions of people are watching 0.99
00:00:53.760 it. Millions. Millions. Sarah Adams is the unfortunate recipient of many of these videos.
00:01:02.320 She gets sent all of it. See, ever since she started the anti-sharenting account,
00:01:07.860 Mom Uncharted, where she discusses the perils and pitfalls of sharing your kids online,
00:01:13.500 people, her audience, her consumers, they've been sending her every single gross video that
00:01:18.940 they come across. It's gross, but also scary and sometimes even dangerous videos of children.
00:01:27.200 I don't know how she does it. It must break her brain on a regular basis. And I needed to know 0.96
00:01:32.780 that. I needed to know how she takes in all of this crap. Literal crap. She gets sent poop videos 1.00
00:01:40.960 constantly. And that is one of the things that we are going to talk about in today's episode.
00:01:45.780 How do you unsee some of the terrible things on the internet that involve children?
00:01:51.740 And make no mistake, it is truly a cesspool.
00:01:56.140 Sorry for the downer in an already down time, but also love you so much.
00:02:03.800 one of the most recent videos i was tagged in over on tiktok was an account and it looks like
00:02:18.040 the whole account or at least like 80 of it is just a mother picking boogers that is the entire
00:02:26.300 account and um it is okay hold on let me just look what do we have here and i'm talking the
00:02:35.960 video i was tagged in almost 30 million views stop it stop it 30 million views the next one
00:02:44.860 15 million views they're getting hundreds of thousands millions of views and it's just a
00:02:51.960 close-up of the baby's nose with you know the nose picker and there's 26 parts thus far
00:02:59.620 out of her baby's nose i've been talking about these subjects for let's call it close to two
00:03:06.260 years a year and a half and i continue to be floored by what people send me like i was not
00:03:12.860 expecting last night to find an entire account 30 million and i'm in canada so i'm thinking like
00:03:19.800 You know, 90% of our population watching some stranger pick a booger out of their daughter's nose.
00:03:29.240 Out of their daughter's nose.
00:03:32.060 That's most of Canada. 1.00
00:03:33.540 Most of Canada is watching these booger videos.
00:03:36.340 You know, well, let's not go too far on the Canadians here, Jo.
00:03:39.980 You're like, stop vilifying Canada, Jo.
00:03:42.860 You know, I think a lot of people, they have a hard time thinking about the views, right?
00:03:49.540 Like, you know, first kids can't conceptualize it, but even us as adults sometimes can't conceptualize the eyes on our video and like just using your child's boogers at entertainment for strangers.
00:04:04.580 Like, are you that are you that boring of an individual and that desperate and starved for attention that that's what you're doing to your child?
00:04:14.480 And then people who are watching this, are we that bored?
00:04:18.080 that we want to watch this like go pick your own boogers i just just watch yourself there's a
00:04:26.660 mirror watch yourself in the mirror picking your own boogers and you know you know what i'm gonna
00:04:33.320 ask you because this is something you talk about all the time when this kid grows up and all of
00:04:40.380 his boogers are living forever on the internet what will it be like to be booger kid 100 0.66
00:04:47.560 100% like I can't I can't conceptualize what that's going to feel like and I recognize that
00:04:54.380 like there's a good chance that there's going to be so much content of some of these kids
00:04:58.720 that they might not even find the worst of the worst of it right but if this account is like
00:05:05.240 literally just based on being the booger kid there's a good chance that that's going to be
00:05:11.220 easy to find and follow you for a long time. I was tagged in a video where an influencer,
00:05:18.660 millions, millions of followers, was discussing her newborn baby girl's vaginal discharge.
00:05:30.340 And her husband's experience with it. And like that, I couldn't even watch the whole thing. I
00:05:37.640 heard like that and like my husband's first experience with that and he was all ick it was
00:05:43.440 when I saw it over a million views could you imagine being that little girl and finding out
00:05:50.420 that one of your earliest viral videos was your mom talking about your newborn discharge and not
00:05:57.720 even like in a way that like this child has never been seen like I'm pretty sure they were like
00:06:03.240 tiktoking live from the hospital right like right it's a very kid as content account but like it's
00:06:10.720 just there's no boundaries there's no privacy there's nothing is sacred anymore it's extremely
00:06:17.760 concerning i'm i'm terrified by it and we right well you know what let's back up i need you to
00:06:26.240 introduce yourself i need you to tell about that whatever we just dove right into it i need you
00:06:31.200 about that audience. I'm like, yeah. So I'm Sarah. Hi, I'm Sarah. We're talking about boogers and
00:06:39.640 baby vaginal discharge today. But you know what? My audience likes that. We like to get right into 0.94
00:06:45.200 it. You are Sarah. You are Mom Uncharted. Talk to us about your account and all of the awesome
00:06:52.620 things that you do with it. And then we're going to get into some more gross things that people
00:06:57.740 post about their kids and the crux of this which is kids art content and they really shouldn't be
00:07:04.080 content the second they come out of the womb yes yeah yeah um yeah so i'm sarah um better known as
00:07:12.040 mom uncharted online i started talking about these subjects probably like a year and a half two years
00:07:16.720 ago and um honestly joe like uh fangirling right now because under the influence and your first
00:07:24.280 season of the podcast was one of the, you know, lightbulb moments that got me more interested
00:07:29.500 in this subject. So just it really had an impact on me and triggering me to look further into
00:07:37.220 these influencers and the family bloggers and things like that. So thank you for that,
00:07:43.020 because you were a large part of my lightbulb moment. And, you know, I didn't always think
00:07:48.020 this way. You know, I had my first baby in 2017. I followed a lot of like the mummy influencers on
00:07:53.740 Instagram because I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I didn't know how to do this, what to 0.98
00:07:58.300 buy, what to, you know, the tips and tricks. So I fell into that, you know, mummy influencer ghost
00:08:04.720 scroller. I think that's what they called me. I was kind of like a ghost scroller and didn't really
00:08:10.600 think critically about it. It seemed pretty normal back then. And as time went on, we went into a
00:08:16.560 pandemic. I had a pandemic baby. We're all on our phones more. I just started to get really
00:08:22.780 uncomfortable with the amount of time parents were spending on their phones with their kids you know
00:08:30.160 like the amount of stories I was seeing throughout the day the things they were sharing like I was
00:08:36.280 starting to see people like their kids waking up eating breakfast what they were wearing to school
00:08:41.040 school drop off there were weekends where they are at that exact moment medical diagnoses and I just
00:08:47.580 thought whoa hold up one second and a light bulb went off and I was like I'm a stranger watching
00:08:54.520 and like kind of invested in this kid's life that's weird that that doesn't feel good that
00:09:01.080 doesn't feel good anymore that doesn't feel good it doesn't feel good right yeah it feels wrong
00:09:06.840 it feels invasive I shouldn't be privy to this information right um and yeah it was just a big
00:09:14.900 moment for me. And I started discussing it with family and friends. And they're like, wow, you
00:09:19.000 seem really interested in this. Like, what are you going to do about it? And I was like, I don't
00:09:23.240 know. And I downloaded TikTok on a whim, started talking about like random stuff and talking about
00:09:30.420 this. And then I realized I just kind of wanted to talk about this. So I just kind of niched my,
00:09:35.440 yeah, I just was like, there's so much to talk about. Why would I talk about anything else?
00:09:40.320 the content never ends. There's so much to talk about. We can talk forever and hopefully you're
00:09:46.920 going to become a regular on this show when we talk about kids as content because it's something
00:09:53.140 I want to go back to over and over and over again. And look, I struggle with it too. My kids are
00:10:00.660 still on some of my accounts. It freaks me out that I still do it and I don't stop doing it.
00:10:07.320 i tell myself it's because i want to share parts of my family but not all of my family yeah in in
00:10:13.560 a perfect world i would get off the social medias all together but mama's got to sell books i was
00:10:17.540 gonna say books yeah yeah yeah and so i'm not going anywhere anytime soon friends but this is
00:10:24.480 something we have to keep discussing and something you and i have been going back and forth on
00:10:28.680 on the dms is videos postpartum videos of the baby literally the second that it comes out of
00:10:37.040 the womb yes yes um it's a thing like the you know you google you google birth videos go on
00:10:44.740 youtube um i would say a large portion of the family vloggers and influencers share their
00:10:52.840 labor and delivery these days um right it's a thing it's a thing and it does really well
00:11:02.360 for a lot. Oh, it does. You know what? Like pregnant pregnancy, the minute an influencer
00:11:07.660 announces they're pregnant, like that is peak influence right there. Like that's when it kind 0.98
00:11:13.380 of starts. That's when they start growing. Pregnancy, babies, you know, you kind of have
00:11:19.920 like it all until they move away from toddlerhood. And then they kind of start thinking about like
00:11:25.820 number two or number seven. Number eight. Number eight. We're just saying number eight just
00:11:31.060 happened for for for one of them oh i saw that on sarah's instagram yeah the other day yeah i got
00:11:37.680 i got shit on a lot for posting about ballerina farm having another baby and saying you know that 0.88
00:11:45.560 this is probably good for her content some women attacked me saying how dare you attack a mother 1.00
00:11:52.440 but i'm not attacking her they can support all of these babies they can do all of the things 1.00
00:11:58.080 It's like, whatever. 0.84
00:11:59.720 Generational wealth, baby.
00:12:01.620 Generational wealth.
00:12:02.360 That's a great thing. 1.00
00:12:03.860 She, you know, they have lots of money to spread around for all of these children. 1.00
00:12:08.260 Not that that matters, but let's call a spade a spade. 1.00
00:12:11.560 It makes it a lot easier.
00:12:12.820 Yeah. 1.00
00:12:13.140 But it's not going to hurt her content because the social medias love a pregnant body or 1.00
00:12:20.860 they love a certain kind of pregnant body. 0.88
00:12:22.460 They don't love all pregnant bodies, but they love a certain kind of pregnant body.
00:12:25.800 I think that's important to note.
00:12:27.120 Mm-hmm.
00:12:27.500 And they also love certain newborn babies.
00:12:33.280 And so I think that, yeah, this will be very good for Ballerina Farm.
00:12:38.020 And there's nothing gross about saying that it's a good business decision for her to make.
00:12:42.880 Well, I don't think so.
00:12:45.200 And I think it would be naive to think that there aren't content babies in this day and age.
00:12:51.540 It literally feels that some people, and there's a variety of reasons why people have children, but if you're looking at some of these people as a viewer, as a critic of these individuals, it really does oftentimes feel that a lot has to do with content.
00:13:17.060 It feels that way.
00:13:18.800 It does feel that way.
00:13:19.420 It does feel as if there are now content babies in the world.
00:13:24.500 Not everyone goes to an Elton John concert in North Dakota and drinks a lot of cheap beer and whiskey and makes a third baby.
00:13:34.580 Yeah, exactly, right?
00:13:36.360 That's not how babies are made for everyone.
00:13:39.880 And it feels that way because the minute they come out, the minute they come earthside, they're already in a content calendar.
00:13:51.520 They're already being monetized. Right. And like I have seen it.
00:13:55.420 I have seen an influencer whose first image video of her child was a monetized ad.
00:14:03.720 It wasn't like I announced my baby and then the next day had a monetized ad.
00:14:08.820 it was that was the first the child's first foray into the online world was being used
00:14:17.540 as a pregnancy ad that's just what it was it is it is and you know i you sent me one video
00:14:24.740 of a baby video joe i said yeah i said i send you a few videos you sent you send me so many
00:14:32.260 good videos and i just looked at my inbox and you sent me a lot of booger videos yeah sorry
00:14:36.460 you asked i did i did i asked for boogers but it is the one that i'm looking at is a five
00:14:42.880 hour old baby and in it there is a lot of branded content this is a commercial it is a commercial
00:14:51.580 that features a five hour old baby so that because you know that like newborn freshies 0.99
00:14:59.040 freshie babies right out of the womb they get a lot of attention and so this mom branded the shit 0.96
00:15:05.000 out of this five year five month old baby what i'm trying to go through and remember which brands 0.96
00:15:10.400 were in here all the product bloom was the big one that bloom yes bloom it's always bloom yes
00:15:16.780 bloom and you know what honestly like props to bloom and their marketing because like they're
00:15:22.600 everywhere they're literally everywhere so like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna knock a company that
00:15:28.560 is doing influencing marketing quote-unquote well um no because you know what i mean that like why
00:15:36.860 why they all have them because they're doing a good job in their marketing department
00:15:40.260 they're doing a good job i just don't for sure there was on top of like the five hour like first 1.00
00:15:46.420 it's gonna create some buzz and controversy right because there's gonna be moms talking like either
00:15:52.400 like whoa look at you go five months um you know oh my gosh i wasn't doing that right five hours 0.86
00:15:57.720 Five hours, yes, five hours.
00:16:00.520 So there's going to be a lot of thoughts and feelings about that already.
00:16:04.820 So that's going to track the engagement right there.
00:16:07.880 But there's something about using, like promoting a supplement, like a bloating gut health thing five hours after postpartum that also felt really icky to me.
00:16:19.680 The fact that a mother is five hours postpartum and so invested in social media that they're setting up their camera and getting the bloom and stuff ready to create this video to edit and stuff like that.
00:16:35.300 Like, for me, it's like, that's what you were thinking?
00:16:37.740 Like, you had a baby and that was one of your first thoughts?
00:16:42.000 Like, let's make some content?
00:16:44.080 To me, that's very bizarre.
00:16:47.640 That's very bizarre.
00:16:49.680 it's bizarre it's bizarre and it's also the world we live in right now that's the thing yeah i mean
00:16:55.920 i think that it's becoming very normalized there was this viral video that a thousand people sent 0.84
00:17:01.380 me of a dude carrying a newborn baby through a grocery store oh the nicu the nicu baby in target
00:17:13.240 lion king hold we're gonna take a quick break here before we get into this gonzo banana story 0.56
00:17:18.740 about a dad carrying a newborn with one hand raised in the air. The baby is in that hand
00:17:24.680 as he walks through the aisles of Target. And I'm pretty convinced he did it just so his video would
00:17:31.600 go viral. Okay, we are back. For those of you who haven't seen the video of content creator
00:17:50.440 Stephen Lomas of the account at Alex and Stephen, here is what it is. It is a video of him going to
00:17:59.080 target with his newborn baby Maya on the same day that she was released from the NICU. She's less
00:18:05.320 than five pounds. And you should probably look it up because I can't do it justice. In the video, 1.00
00:18:12.300 Steven, who I just I need to talk about his mullet. He has a really intense mullet. And I don't know
00:18:18.680 why I keep looking at the mullet when I should be looking at the baby. But I'm a bad person. So I do. 0.63
00:18:25.520 so I do. So he is walking through Target with the baby in his hand like a football,
00:18:31.480 with one arm outstretched like a quarterback going in for a touchdown. At one point, Maya's
00:18:38.140 mother, Alex, who is behind the camera, encourages Stephen to dangle the baby in the air with one
00:18:45.340 hand. The parents then laugh like Disney villains at their little baby's very confused expression.
00:18:53.100 for a while i didn't know if it was a real baby at first at first i thought it was a doll
00:19:01.240 how many times did you watch it before you realize i'm still watching it right now and now
00:19:06.260 i realize oh no it's a it's a it's a real baby it's a real baby um this got stitched so many
00:19:12.460 should i just stitch it on tiktok because i'm trying to teach myself tiktok right now um
00:19:17.520 that was can you describe that video to us it is a video of him in a target and the title do you
00:19:26.040 have it there what does the title exactly read it's my Maya's first day out of the NICU Maya's
00:19:32.680 first day out of the NICU yeah and the dad is walking through a target holding his newborn
00:19:39.700 or his NICU baby in essentially the palm of his hands up like kind of to his right up high
00:19:48.280 as we said kind of like a Lion King pose and it's not a proper way to hold a baby especially a NICU
00:19:56.180 baby and then there was all the talk about also like bringing a NICU baby right into a public
00:20:00.920 space and things like this and this is important to note that this is a repost this baby is not
00:20:08.040 that age anymore this baby is a few months if not a year old now so that video was already out there
00:20:15.000 but this was the one that trended and went viral and got all the controversy going
00:20:20.420 this is a family that has more than 300 000 followers yeah yeah yeah and that's just on
00:20:29.380 one of their accounts yeah and they have lots and lots of accounts all the other accounts and
00:20:33.500 things like that yeah so um other people see this and then like we can't then other people are so
00:20:41.600 starved for virality that other impressionable maybe young parents could see something like
00:20:48.580 this and be like oh well this was controversial and this went viral like I regularly hold my baby
00:20:54.900 like this at the gas station maybe I should try that right like you just don't know what this
00:21:00.340 kind of content can turn into and create it has resulted in some pretty good satire videos though
00:21:06.540 i mean i feel like i should make a video now all right yeah i mean look i can't have another baby 0.99
00:21:13.120 so i'm never gonna have a newborn again when i guess i could but i can't make one with dick 0.97
00:21:17.800 because vasectomy but i'm sure i could find a very nice young sperm donor who would want to 0.99
00:21:24.400 have a fourth baby with me oh joe if i if i need more content calling it at two calling it at two
00:21:31.280 over here you know i thought i was calling it at two too no don't go to fargo don't go to fargo
00:21:37.680 north dakota going to north dakota don't go to north dakota um so talk to me a little bit more
00:21:43.740 you you this has become an area of expertise for you and how like just tell like what tell me
00:21:53.980 everything that you're seeing what are what are some of the craziest things that you have seen
00:21:57.880 posted or you get tagged in you get tagged in a lot of stuff now you're tagged in a lot of things
00:22:02.740 because I think it's important to note that like I've curated my feed so my my for you page and my
00:22:08.380 feed is actually like not kids and family vloggers like it's pretty niche to me so most of these
00:22:14.140 videos are sent to me from right my audience or I get tagged in them and if I can see them before
00:22:20.720 people block me that's also a thing right of course i joe there are just so many um some of
00:22:28.160 the ones that upset me the most are the parents who record their babies covered in feces what
00:22:36.660 yeah so there are and i'm not talking about oh i've been tagged in one or two video i'm talking
00:22:42.040 about many many videos children have accidents and what the parent does is they pick up their
00:22:50.000 camera and they go into their crib and they see feces all over their crib, all over the child.
00:22:56.060 Maybe the child had an explosion in the car seat and is covered. And they film and offer commentary
00:23:02.640 on this. Oftentimes they say like, you know, hashtag like birth control or here's your birth
00:23:08.860 control for the day. But they literally film their own child covered in their own feces and put it on
00:23:16.300 the internet for strangers. And it is the most degrading thing I have seen. It's shocking.
00:23:28.780 It's shocking. It's shocking and degrading. And you, I don't think you would treat a stranger
00:23:34.300 like that. That's what I'm going to throw out there. If you saw a stranger on the street who
00:23:39.160 had just shit their pants, I don't think you would take a picture of them and put it on the internet 0.99
00:23:43.940 because you would feel guilty and yet some people take pictures of their own child and put it out 0.98
00:23:49.700 there it's it's it's absolutely appalling and these are beautiful little babies and toddlers
00:23:57.780 and like you know they have accidents and like listen like a lot of people will be like oh well 0.98
00:24:03.840 they posted it to relate because what mom hasn't had a blowout we've all had fucking blowouts right 0.98
00:24:10.560 But we all aren't thinking, let's record my child covered in feces and use it as a form of entertainment for strangers online. 0.98
00:24:20.180 Many who apparently have like a poop fetish, which is a whole nother thing that is, you know, because when I started talking about this, it was mainly like a privacy and consent thing.
00:24:34.260 Of course, I know the Internet's danger and stuff like that.
00:24:36.680 But I didn't know the magnitude of all of this.
00:24:40.100 So wait, talk to me. Talk to me about this terrible, terrible dark corner of the Internet.
00:24:43.920 So not only are you posting this video of a child covered in feces without their consent, but then there are the grossest of gross pedophiles out there whose kink is actually kids covered in feces. 0.99
00:24:58.740 It's it's awful and disgusting to say. But, yeah, there is a segment of the population who gets off on feces. 0.99
00:25:07.020 And if that segment of the population is also predatory towards children, then those videos are gold mines for them.
00:25:15.860 And, you know, we talk often about how, you know, things can be Photoshopped and AI and digital altering and videos can be manipulated and things like that.
00:25:28.020 And that happens. That is terrifying.
00:25:30.860 um regular videos can also end up on bad sites but another thing that has recently come not
00:25:38.420 recently i've been aware is that a lot of times people will take these sick individuals will take
00:25:45.480 these videos and these images or they become obsessed with like an influencer kid online
00:25:49.840 and they go to forums and they talk in like graphic detail about what they would like do
00:25:57.040 to these children and things like that yeah um i've i've seen the screenshots i get a lot of
00:26:05.840 emails and things like that i've seen fan fiction written about influencer kids no that is
00:26:13.020 yeah that is extremely graphic and wrong and this is a real human child that somebody has wrote a
00:26:22.400 quote-unquote fan fiction and I don't want fan fiction to get bad a lot of people in those
00:26:27.360 communities they're doing it right because it's fiction but some fan fiction is great we love
00:26:32.240 fan fiction right exactly love fan fiction but not when but not when it's not fiction because it's a
00:26:37.640 real human that you are um thinking uh yeah so I've seen some really awful stuff and I try and
00:26:45.100 stay above board. I never want to get anywhere where I shouldn't. I'm very open about that. But
00:26:53.000 it's it's scary. And, you know, on Instagram, a few clicks and next thing you know, you're in a
00:26:58.340 really dark place. And that's not even the dark web. That's just Instagram. That's just Instagram.
00:27:03.620 That's just Instagram. I think we all just need to know how unsafe these online spaces are
00:27:11.140 becoming and I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know how bad it was so when I hear these things
00:27:19.540 and I come across these things I feel like I just have to tell other parents that like
00:27:23.720 this is happening and like you can do what you want with the information but like
00:27:28.440 it's really starting to feel unsafe the thing is you're doing a service because the best thing we
00:27:34.220 can do is talk about this right and because when we don't talk about it we pretend that it's not
00:27:40.040 happening and the fact of the matter is that kids should not be content yeah they shouldn't be yeah
00:27:50.020 and i've i've made the and i've said it before there is a difference between a parent turning
00:27:57.480 their kids into content so like utilizing their kids as content meaning they would not have a
00:28:03.620 successful platform without regularly featuring their child right their child is their platform
00:28:10.840 versus an influencer who that's their full-time job and occasionally at christmas they have a
00:28:18.480 image of their family or a kid is doing a silly dance right like in my opinion there is a difference
00:28:26.300 in that right totally or well and then there's also a difference between the mom that just posts
00:28:31.860 pictures of her kids once in a while right the everyday the everyday uh parent yeah in my and
00:28:39.740 i always because i get one of my questions is always like um is private accounts safe right
00:28:45.560 and what do you do and i don't post publicly or privately i don't i don't share like some of my
00:28:51.860 closest friends oh you can talk to my parents ask them the last time they saw a picture of their
00:28:56.000 grand kids i don't know because i don't send them that often right but i don't post privately
00:29:01.480 or publicly and i always advocate for parents the everyday parent if you are sharing go private and
00:29:08.240 know the people who are following you like do you really need that guy from college do you really
00:29:12.720 need that like co-worker from 10 years ago i wish that we didn't live in a cesspool of a world where 0.69
00:29:19.500 i couldn't share my beautiful kids with lovely readers yeah uh because some creepy poop obsessed
00:29:26.020 man might be watching and trolling my feed and also joe is it it's sometimes not just like the
00:29:33.540 creepy ones sometimes people are just crazy it's not the creepy guy sometimes it's like another mom
00:29:38.920 who like just hates them and is just making their life miserable by you know creating other accounts
00:29:45.540 with photos or calling cps and doing things like it's not always like the creepy guy in the corner 0.97
00:29:52.440 Sometimes they're just crazy people in this dumpster fire of social media. Right. 0.93
00:29:59.900 Yeah. A lot of unwell and unhappy people.
00:30:03.100 What are a couple other crazy things that you've seen that you think would give parents a wake up call about posting?
00:30:10.860 I think when people are stealing images is another thing.
00:30:17.720 Like I've I don't know how these influencers are OK with people creating fan accounts of their literal human children and then not having control over those photos and those comments and the followers.
00:30:36.140 Like, to me, that's very bizarre that people and like people steal photos.
00:30:45.640 You know, I have friends who their their photos were stolen.
00:30:48.660 Their family was stolen.
00:30:49.960 And they were like someone else was like impersonating, like created new names for them.
00:30:55.280 Right. They call it digital kidnapping and things like that.
00:30:59.540 That's very concerning as well.
00:31:03.060 And just like in general, the digital footprint we're creating for our kids, right?
00:31:07.680 Wouldn't it be a nice gift if they can hop online when we've educated them and they're
00:31:12.320 well-informed digital citizens and they don't have like pictures of them pooping on the
00:31:17.380 potty and they don't have their meltdowns and they don't have us, you know, pranking
00:31:23.640 them or whatever.
00:31:24.620 Wouldn't it just be nice for them to show up online and be authentically who they are
00:31:29.280 without this curated narrative of who we've been telling the world they are that would be lovely
00:31:36.980 that's the dream that's the dream you know like and it's a pretty easy gift to give your kid these
00:31:42.080 days right to not just overshare their life online um yeah but there's just yeah there's a lot
00:31:52.540 You once said something. You said, when is it no longer exploiting and it's literally pimping out your children?
00:32:02.740 Yeah, so that's in relation to what I refer to as mummy-ran accounts, parent-ran accounts, where parents have made the account solely about their child.
00:32:12.540 And I stumbled upon this world.
00:32:16.820 I went down this rabbit hole one time because I was clicking around off an influencer kid and ended up in like the dance, cheer, gymnastics world.
00:32:26.720 Yeah, it's a world.
00:32:28.400 It's a world.
00:32:28.880 That's another episode, Joe. 0.73
00:32:30.720 And there are parents, specifically mothers, who are hyper-sexualizing their young girls and selling images and videos to predatory people online.
00:32:46.320 That's it. That's what is happening.
00:32:49.700 There is a subscribe button on Instagram where individuals can subscribe for exclusive content of children.
00:32:59.500 wow how's this confetti was that on your side sorry everybody confetti just confetti just
00:33:06.480 rained down on my great it's like congratulations you're making yeah um and they are yeah they are
00:33:14.200 selling photos to strangers online um and what we're talking about is these these are accounts
00:33:21.620 they're you know the moms who have young girls they take pictures of them cheering or doing
00:33:28.340 gymnastics or just doing cute adorable things but people pay to get to see the pictures they
00:33:32.400 subscribe to get to see the pictures they get to they subscribe to see exclusive pictures so
00:33:37.100 my thought is if all the pictures are already pretty um hyper sexualized like lots of legs
00:33:43.100 in the air and splits and limited clothing and you know like cardi b wop songs and things like
00:33:51.620 that like if what they're posting publicly is already like highly sexualized imagery of children
00:33:57.340 what are they selling privately like what are these people paying to see privately right um
00:34:05.980 that's scary that's terrifying it feels very like of for kids yes yes and of for those of you who
00:34:16.960 do not know is only fans and we have a great action we have a great influencer only fans
00:34:22.000 episode coming up. We're going to talk about. Oh, awesome. Yeah. But not children. There's not
00:34:27.240 children involved. It's adult women who make money on OnlyFans in the adult industry. It's a 1.00
00:34:36.000 fascinating crossover. It's going to be really good. And I've always taken around that if you
00:34:41.220 are a consenting adult and you are doing, you know, sex work on OnlyFans, that's cool. I have
00:34:47.920 no problem with that however if you were promoting your only fans on an account that also features
00:34:55.900 your children that's where i that's where i have a problem with it i feel like those should be
00:35:02.360 separate yes thanks yes yes separate things separate things well and i think that we do see
00:35:10.520 an intense over-sexualization of young girls on social media. I really do. It brings to mind
00:35:19.520 the Jean-Benet Ramsey images from beauty pageants that we used to see when I was growing up and in
00:35:28.320 the tabloid news. But that is all over the social medias. And a lot of like the Brooklyn moms may
00:35:35.320 not see it because you don't get served things that are unlike you. But around the rest of the
00:35:40.420 country it's a big thing i i we're just speaking of this so i need to send you this so here you go
00:35:46.940 so this is um this is a young girl who has been talked about in the media before actually pink
00:35:56.280 brought it to oh my god shut your mouth guys i just want to i just want to tell you so all of
00:36:01.640 these all of these links that sarah is telling me i will be posting them in the sub stack over 0.53
00:36:07.840 the influence these are shower videos her name is piper raquel and her mother's name is tiffany
00:36:13.840 raquel and i think you would be very interested in learning more about that all right oh my gosh
00:36:23.940 in this one video that got a million like she's making out with some dude yeah well and the thing
00:36:30.420 is she's been you know she's been a popular young kid star for a very long time uh many would say
00:36:38.480 like hyper sexualized for a very long time and here's the thing so she's 15 now um and a lot of
00:36:47.180 the audience that's watching this is like children like you know children like tween girls 11 12 and
00:36:54.540 they're seeing this and they're thinking like oh well that's how i get likes and popularity like i
00:37:00.180 take off my shirt and reveal my sports bra and dance and then shower in a bikini and stuff like
00:37:06.040 that and sometimes I just think like how did we get here how did we get here this is wild I don't
00:37:13.040 want to be here I don't want to be here this isn't where I want to be well you know all right we're
00:37:19.000 gonna end today's interview on that note because I think that this takes us to a whole new another
00:37:23.460 episode a whole new world a whole new world a whole new episode about the things that teen and
00:37:28.520 tween and younger girls can find online um i'll be back christ you'll be back i'll be back we went
00:37:40.380 from boogers to 15 year old girls boobs is what i know it's it's weird how we get here but i feel
00:37:47.560 like it all like really flowed well it did like it did you know it's really good narrative right 0.59
00:37:52.220 narrative it's really great narrative yeah well you're coming back on i love having you on here
00:37:56.700 you are such a great expert on all of this. And tell people where they can find you to get all of
00:38:01.800 your great advice to protect your children. Yeah, of course. So on the socials, I go by
00:38:09.040 mom.uncharted. And you can find me on TikTok and Instagram and YouTube mainly. And that's what I'm
00:38:17.380 doing. And in the new year, I have a podcast coming out. So stay tuned for that.
00:38:26.700 What a whirlwind today. Baby boogers, teen girls in showers, which I'm, you know what, 1.00
00:38:36.200 I'm usually judgment-free. I'm putting my foot down. I don't want teen girls in showers 0.99
00:38:40.600 on the social medias. I don't. I do not. Ugh. Preemie babies being carted around the target. 1.00
00:38:49.600 The internet is just, it's a gross place. It's gross. I'm just, that's, that's all it is. It's 0.96
00:38:55.200 gross. But what isn't gross is how much I love my audience. You guys send me the best stuff. The
00:39:03.260 stuff that is, you know, the dark corners of the internet, but also the stuff that makes me laugh
00:39:08.260 and laugh. There will be a transcript of this show with a lot of the videos and the accounts
00:39:13.700 that we talked about on my sub stack over the influence. Subscribe. You get all sorts of cool
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00:39:38.620 to resort to picking my own nose on TikTok. Talk soon, smooches.
00:39:49.180 Thank you. 0.62