00:00:00.000class is in session and welcome to unlearn 16 classes in session today i am lucky to have stew
00:00:09.480sitting right across from me welcome dig in for our episode i am lucky the very time you have me
00:00:16.960on your show i'm like excited i'm like vibrating right now well this could be the caffeine too
00:00:22.020i've had eight coffees um and and i know that we're normally funny i mean i i think that's
00:00:32.520just naturally we get together i feel like i giggle so that's that's just who we are but today
00:00:37.420today we're going to go down a bit of a different a different road and i i wanted to do this this
00:00:43.220podcast for a while coming off the roe v wade overturning and um we have we've talked about
00:00:51.560it a little bit. I think we have a lot of experience when it comes to different aspects
00:00:55.020of the social media part. And I think, I think we just need to put it all on the table and
00:01:01.060maybe it'll be a cathartic hour to seven, you know, just to, to have all the sorts of
00:01:08.480feelings and put a bunch of things. There's only so much you can do on TikTok. For those
00:01:11.860who don't know Stu, he's this amazing phenom on TikTok. He has his own podcast. Hopefully
00:01:16.520I'm going to be on if I get, you know, educated enough. But today, this is where we're going to
00:01:23.840be. And there's been a lot of decisions going on with this particular Supreme Court. And I think
00:01:28.040they're all very intertwined. So maybe just get your initial vibe. Like, how do you feel right
00:01:35.100now about what's for those who don't know, I can't imagine people that don't know. But the Supreme
00:01:41.180Court of the United States has just overturned a 50 year precedent protecting a woman's right to0.94
00:01:45.820choose, a person's right to choose, excuse my language there, a person's right to choose0.83
00:01:50.300and have control over their own bodies. That is one of about six decisions. I've never heard so
00:01:57.980many decisions coming out of the Supreme Court this fast, which I also find interesting. It's
00:02:01.920like they're not even thinking about it. Here's one, here's one, here's one. But this is where
00:02:08.300we're going to start so stew what where do you what's this what do you feel what what what the
00:02:15.660one thing or main thing do you want to start with i honestly like it's it's really interesting
00:02:21.260because i think we all knew it was coming like oh yeah well it was leaked before it was leaked
00:02:26.020and and you made that really powerful video on tiktok kind of summing up um a lot of the thoughts
00:02:32.740that i had as well but i think when it actually hit even though i was prepared for it like i knew
00:02:39.400it was coming it's still it hollows you out because and yes it like to any of those who are
00:02:49.400gonna kind of like turn up their nose and say well we're not directly affected because we're
00:02:54.440not american it it does it affects everyone it affects everyone who knows anyone with a uterus
00:03:02.020um that this fundamental right of of um choice and autonomy over your own body
00:03:14.660and the choices there within to be up to the legislature to it's it's insane to me and it's
00:03:24.100insane that people can defend that that the stance of the supreme court saying that like
00:03:30.720they've won something and i think that's like the crux of where i'm just like i don't get it
00:03:35.480and i i see a lot of people reacting on social media um on the news programs coming on being
00:03:42.920like i feel like we all just need to find middle ground or like agree to disagree and i'm like
00:03:49.040agree to disagree about about what like you agree to disagree about like where you want to eat
00:03:54.080dinner like you don't agree to disagree about someone's right of like life liberty and pursuit
00:04:03.200of happiness and the freedom to make decisions about the what's happening with their own body
00:04:08.000like you don't agree you're not like oh yeah yeah i i agree disagree with that one and i think it's
00:04:15.640just there's so many ins and outs of this i mean so so everybody that's listening understand this
00:04:21.440There are also, we're not just talking about, you know, abortion in, for the most part, we have like 17, I think, to 25 states that are going to have trigger laws that are going to instantaneously criminalize abortion.
00:04:37.340Many of those states are criminalizing it in every specific situation.
00:04:42.500I don't want to spend too much time on this because I feel like if I spend too much time on this, somehow people are, they think I'm invalidating somebody's just, you know, their personal right to choose, which I'm not.
00:04:56.120But just so everybody understands, this allows states like Kentucky to say there is no exception.
00:05:03.400Rape, not an exception. Incest, not an exception. Atopic pregnancy, that's going to kill both people, not an exception.
00:05:12.500There are, you know, the mother having diabetes, which will probably kill not an exception. And a lot of people don't understand what. Okay, so but why would they do that? Why would they have those those thick, thick lines? Well, I'll tell you why.
00:05:29.240because within those states, you're going to have a huge chunk of people that still think it's a1.00
00:05:34.000woman's right to choose. So what they're going to do is use things like the mother's health was at1.00
00:05:38.740risk, right? I mean, in order to get around state legislatures, so state legislatures are going to
00:05:43.900have to make these very thick lines. And not only are, you know, fetuses not going to be born
00:05:52.240anyways, because the mother is going to, they're both going to go down in these particular
00:05:56.120situations. In atopic pregnancy, there's no possibility of a live birth there. There's no
00:06:05.600possibility. It's going to rupture. It's going to kill them both. So all of those things being
00:06:10.900equal, I think a lot of people will talk about those things and they'll say, well, in that case
00:06:18.360or in that case. And as soon as you start saying that, you start to understand the reality of the
00:06:24.800complexities of this issue that states have then boiled down to no complexities this it is what it0.94
00:06:33.880is if you don't want to be pregnant don't have sex oh my god that's so insane this is like
00:06:39.940i think the stand i'm sorry i'm going to say this is going to sound so
00:06:44.240the stance of like of punishing a woman um and and suggesting that they be more
00:06:53.260responsible in their sexual um habits but not assign the same energy or the same restrictions
00:07:01.680or the same stance to the men like there's a um i can't remember where exactly she is0.96
00:07:10.100a governor or but saying that a woman should control who ejaculates inside of her0.84
00:07:17.080i don't know i'm like how is that how can you puff your chest out and say that0.66
00:07:23.900being a woman of your like yourself listen like that's it not only well let me deal with the
00:07:33.100first part of what you said the fact that we're blaming women for not having responsibility
00:07:36.660you know what's funny i heard a a piece of somebody's tiktok in which he said we've
00:07:42.480always blame women to control men. Always. The patriarchy has been created to teach and train
00:07:51.740women how they are supposed to control men. Because men are uncontrollable, right? Men are0.99
00:07:58.960what? Savage and beastly. I don't know what their description of men are. So therefore,1.00
00:08:05.480it's always up to women. And this mentality doesn't surprise me at all. We still live in a1.00
00:08:11.160rape culture. We still live in a society where whether somebody says it out loud or not,
00:08:16.680a lot of people think, what was she wearing? Where was she going? Did she lead him on? Did
00:08:22.400she, did she, did she, right? So many different scenarios where that ends up being the line of
00:08:31.360thought and the pervasive kind of culture. Of course, it then spills over
00:08:38.860to pregnancy of course it does exactly of course that's what it's about
00:08:44.220it's just it's so beyond disgusting that we
00:08:49.500continue to blame women for the actions of men and now
00:08:55.780i just like i guess i guess as i sit here and there are these people who will defend this and
00:09:04.200say well it's not a constitutional right it was never in the the original um the original document
00:09:11.300in what 1788 1788 right or 1789 i think it was signed yeah in our operation um so it wasn't the
00:09:21.340original document therefore yeah okay therefore it can't be um therefore it's not a constitutional
00:09:27.540right therefore it can be taken away therefore anything is legislated no one should be comfortable
00:09:34.140with constitutional rights that are awarded to you
00:09:40.040through the legal system or a legal decision.
00:09:47.580So then I ask out loud to myself in my apartment,
00:11:27.240nowhere in there does it say that segregation is a problem nowhere in there none it doesn't say it
00:11:37.140at all it was interpreted it was applied right in there it says your right to bear arm if you're in
00:11:43.900a militia great join a militia join one it's uh you know and so you start looking at all these
00:11:51.820i'm like either apply it literally and if i start applying it literally everybody in the
00:11:57.200United States, everybody starts going, oh, this document's not nearly effective, good enough.
00:12:05.820It doesn't protect us enough. It doesn't do anything. This document is absolute garbage.
00:12:11.660And we tear it up. That's choice number one. Choice number two, we look at it like a living document.1.00
00:12:18.660and we say, okay, as we progress, we take things like these prime words, like you said in the
00:12:26.980beginning, life, liberty, right? The pursuit of happiness. What do those mean? And those are the
00:12:32.160first, those are the big three, right? What do those first three mean? And how do we expand and
00:12:39.140include rights to make sure that every citizen in the United States has access to all three?
00:12:45.420And if we're going to do that, then it gets messy. But then those rights get the protected rights get bigger and bigger and bigger, not more narrow. I think it's hysterical that Republicans right now are talking about state rights when the Republican Party, and everybody loves to ignore this, was created to put states in their place when it came to slavery.
00:13:13.260right that there's a whole point of ending slavery and putting the constitution was the
00:13:19.580federal government now was going to tell the states how they formulated and created economic
00:13:24.920systems and all of a sudden it was okay everybody that everybody that talks about lincoln that's a
00:13:31.520republican today i'm like listen if lincoln was at your convention the dude would become democrat
00:13:39.460in about 37 seconds and that's only because he walks slow because he's super tall that's it
00:13:45.120you are not the same he is a progress or he was a progressive the republican party as it stands now
00:13:54.120and i do say the whole republican party because i don't see anybody in the republican party besides
00:14:01.840cheney who's about to be kicked out any second representing anything progressive nothing it's
00:14:08.860all progressive. It's all about conserving. It's all about going. That is not Lincoln. That is
00:14:15.960not what Lincoln created. People talk about the party switch. I don't know if you've heard of
00:14:20.400this debate before. That's what they're talking about. They're talking this idea that the main
00:14:26.760difference between Democrats and Republicans used to be this. It's very simple. Republicans
00:14:32.320wanted more state and national power. The Democrats wanted more power to the states.
00:14:40.580That's it. That's the switch that's happened. That's the switch that's happened, right?
00:14:48.860Because Democrats have become progressive. Democrats have become about social justice
00:14:56.440and equality and equity. And the Republicans have seen that the more that that happens,
00:15:01.560the more you take away my well i don't want to be that anymore but i'm going to still use the
00:15:05.820banner of lincoln to protect me and pretend though i just hate slavery so much and that
00:15:13.440that's the only thing that makes me a good person it's just i think all of these people who kind of
00:15:21.700spout um they're originalists when it comes to the constitution and and we should if you actually
00:15:27.980were to look at it um there was 10 original like amendments amendments thank you i was like what
00:15:36.540is the word i'm looking for but like the 14th amendment is where roe v wade kind of fell within
00:15:41.580um and i think it's like if we're going to talk about like protects rights against state
00:15:48.300infringements define citizenship prohibits states from interfering with privileges and immunities
00:15:53.420and requires due process and equal protection punishes states for denying vote and disqualify
00:15:57.900confederate officials and debts and it's been it's been kind of like pulled out and and um
00:16:04.860added to over the years so that was not in the original one that that came into pass in 1868
00:16:11.740for the 14th amendment and i think it's it's interesting because if you want to really be
00:16:15.500an originalist i think that you have to sit there look at the original amendments look
00:16:22.060Look at the freedoms and liberties that you enjoy today and then ask yourself, where is your line?
00:16:29.380If those were given to you by a legal system that basically said that this is a human right to be able to vote, to be able to have autonomy over your own body, to be able to all be equal across the board.
00:16:46.640where are you going to draw the line and be like oh something's wrong and will that be too late0.53
00:16:54.920like yes we're having conversations now due to clarence's words about gay marriage um funny the
00:17:03.600guy didn't bring up interracial marriage i think that's right exactly clarence but go right ahead
00:17:09.300go off yeah right to contraceptive um and uh what happened basically the privacy what happens in
00:17:15.940one's bedroom and i think it's interesting because people are like oh it will never happen
00:17:20.140it'll never happen it will never happen they won't take away gay marriage and i'm like and
00:17:26.480they're like if they do it'll return to a state right well that's great that means that your
00:17:31.180marriage that is valid in california is not valid in texas that means the children that you have
00:17:37.940in your marriage don't count as your kids in this state that doesn't recognize your legal
00:17:45.640marriage for people who are married to an american citizen who are canadian or or from a different
00:17:51.520country altogether that would invalidate the marriage therefore it's a federal issue sure
00:17:57.800statewide you're recognized as married federally you're not so therefore any immigration proceedings
00:18:04.360are done any uh people i just i feel like people aren't understanding the nuance of the conversation
00:18:10.760where it's like sure you want to broad stroke it it's a state issue but what are the ramifications
00:18:17.160to those people past that and I think that's where I have a hard time especially for where we kind of
00:18:24.180like live and operate which is TikTok is these people making these videos who are like why is
00:18:29.920everyone freaking out and I'm like why are you not freaking out well I think I think number one
00:18:36.360I think most people only choose to read the 140 characters on Twitter
00:18:41.520and listen to the three minutes on TikTok, and that's it.
00:18:45.240Whether that's their capacity, and I don't even mean that horrifically negatively.
00:18:49.580I mean, these are complicated, heavy issues to understand law
00:18:54.160and constitutionality and application of this law and all of that.
00:19:02.360Or they like the broad strokes because it makes them feel righteous. It makes them feel a part of something. It makes them, it makes everything seem, and this is, in my opinion, the biggest flaw in democracy or the biggest, not flaw, but the biggest, the thing that will kill it.
00:19:23.240they want everything to seem black and white they want everything to be black and white
00:19:30.500right or wrong yes or no no and it's just not it's not it requires serious serious people
00:19:37.700having serious conversations and the more that people stand up and simplify it
00:19:44.460right and then the more that people are like yeah that's the side I'm on um all it does
00:19:52.340is widen the gulf between the two, the two parties and nothing legitimate happens. All that happens
00:19:59.760is, you know, violence. And I don't just mean physically, I mean, a lot of different ways,
00:20:06.840like legal, political, and emotional violence are all significant. Um, and it just breaks us down
00:20:13.060further and further and further. And, and here's where we are like, Stu, this time last year,
00:20:18.440if you would have said this would have happened, I would have said, I'll bet my house against it.
00:20:21.420Even with Trump in power, even with Kavanaugh, that slimy son of a, even with Barrett getting on the screen, I would have said there is no way that somebody that educated, that in that position of power, I mean, in all fairness, I really didn't look into Barrett.
00:20:42.400But in that, there is no way they're going to be able to twist and and manipulate and use as propaganda the Constitution, the United States, when in the past Republican majority Supreme Courts never overturned it.
00:20:59.140I would have been all in. Absolutely not. In fact, I've said I said it. I said it will never happen.
00:24:05.180But I also think an interesting conversation to have, and something that I've been kind of chewing on for a while, is that I loved Ruth Bader RBG.
00:27:49.400I'm thinking of the January 6th stuff and this all goes hand in hand.
00:27:52.480Cause what it's about is it's about a lack of accountability and a failure of
00:27:58.060democracy. That's it. People are talking about the United States. It's democratic. It's democratic.
00:28:03.400It's democratic. Listen, they said that Germany was the most democratic nation in the world.
00:28:09.380The constitution was built so a dictator could never take power. Countries from all over the
00:28:15.020world pre-1939, 1933, copied the German constitutional framework. And then Hitler.0.87
00:28:27.000So please let's not talk about democracy being this just singular entity where people get to
00:28:33.320vote. No, no, no. It's a multifaceted and a big facet of that is holding people accountable. In
00:28:38.840Canada, we can do a whole other podcast because we all know we're not holding anybody accountable
00:28:42.940up here either. But not holding people accountable is the first step. As soon as Trump made that call
00:28:49.660to the Georgian governor and said, cut me some slack, do me a favor, figure out, find me some
00:28:58.860more votes, I'll take care of you, which is exactly what the son of a gun said. Yep. Somebody should0.96
00:29:05.600have knocked at that damn door and arrested him on the spot. Think about Nixon. Nixon resigned1.00
00:29:12.760because he had some guys break into an office i know i'm starting to look at nixon as being a
00:29:20.820fine look he got he got a bad rap he had some guys break first of all they didn't find anything0.97
00:29:25.460that is the stupidest thing to lose it was stupidest way to lose a job nobody cared that0.98
00:29:30.120nixon was secretly bombing cambodia but besides that we're we're really upset meanwhile trump1.00
00:29:36.620is caught on tape coercing a governor to change election results i don't think we need anything
00:29:44.640covering january i don't even think we need anything past that phone call that's it you are
00:29:49.820done you're done you're done out you go buttercup like and there's the problem there's no
00:29:58.980accountability and i think what americans are really afraid of and this is what trump has done
00:30:03.500horrifically well, is that he has created such fractures in truth that nothing means anything
00:30:20.760anymore, which also means you have tens of millions of people who don't believe he lost
00:30:31.660the election whether or not they're crazy or not it doesn't matter he has fractured that
00:30:36.680so we're really adding him and that's what americans are terrified of right when you talk
00:30:43.440about jfk getting shot for example right i look i'll put money on the table everybody knew who
00:30:48.840it was everybody who was anybody knew it was but they went if this gets out our system as we know
00:30:55.620it is never going to be respected again it's nobody's ever going to take us seriously so we
00:30:59.900have to bury it not because we don't want to bring them to justice but because if we bring them to
00:31:04.120justice we're highlighting the fragility of the most democratic nation in the world and trump
00:31:11.440whether he goes to jail or not has broken that concept yes you know 100 and it's it's just like
00:31:23.240it's it's i wonder this is the thing i think like it's i guess it's it's shocking to me to like
00:31:29.840listen to these uh interviews on the news to watch people defend him on social media
00:31:38.880to read these articles written by supporters and wonder like
00:31:44.740you you look at the democrats and you accuse them of all the same things
00:31:49.620but like you can't critically look at this man and say this does not define the party or
00:31:59.320yeah the person that i want to run the party like a lot of people worship him like some sort of
00:32:06.420second coming and it's such a strange thing to watch because you're watching it being like
00:32:13.980but he is flawed and like whether you like him or not you know flawed is like the understanding
00:32:20.280of the year but i think like if you were to look at him you can still follow the republican party
00:32:27.180You can still be a Republican and denounce Trump.
00:32:31.440I don't know when they became synonymous, when it became the Republican Party of Trump, because people are continuing talking about a Reagan Republican.
00:32:42.360Point out one Reagan Republican, because I wouldn't classify any of them as that, because they were apologists when he was in power.
00:32:50.400And now that it's somewhat safe, a few of them are speaking out.
00:32:54.100but like speaking out in the weirdest of ways i would say that cheney is the only one
00:32:59.320and and romney which the fact that i have to defend mitt romney sometimes makes me physically ill
00:33:06.540nobody wants to defend the government no listen when people talk about reagan
00:33:13.720like so sorry so what are you saying you're saying that that the reagan republicans people
00:33:19.980still respect the reagan republicans well people still say that they're a reagan republican i think
00:33:25.580they're the i think trump and reagan are one in the same do you here's why okay yeah here's why
00:33:34.060reagan a is way more charismatic way more intelligent those aren't the comparisons i
00:33:38.220make and way less sinister about his application having said that reagan was nicknamed the teflon
00:33:45.740president yes and there's reason the reason for that is he did horrible things but because he
00:33:55.280was charismatic because he would say things like make america great again because he'd have these
00:34:01.660catchphrases because he used his very strong charisma because i did like watching him speak
00:34:07.220his very strong charisma people wanted to believe him and he seemed honest and he seemed steadfast
00:34:13.760And he seemed strong and he seemed like he cared. But all the while, look at what he did. He created a theory. Reaganomics trickle down theory is perhaps the single most debunked failure of an economic system. And somehow Reagan supporters still see that as being the pinnacle of his presidency.
00:34:38.460yeah what he was look i saw the elvis movie and i watched colonel parker and he called himself
00:34:46.460the snowman because he was the best at putting on a show like stealing money from people and
00:34:54.220they leave with a smile on their face they are con men they are con men now i think reagan
00:35:01.740had a built-in enemy he had the soviets right think about think about what reagan did in his
00:35:11.360presidency he in he he invigorated the evangelical christian right to a point where you're praying
00:35:23.600in schools god's on your money the whole nine yards because he used it as a as a solidifying
00:35:30.920force to fight the communists. Right. That was Reagan. That fight was his. He just had the
00:35:41.040enemy. So who's Trump's enemy? Well, Trump needs to come up with somebody. Trump used the same
00:35:46.680playbook. He just used Mexicans. And then he used the Chinese and Iranians. And then when he needed
00:35:56.900somebody in his own state like in his own government he used you know the gays and and the0.98
00:36:04.440the pro choice and trans he used that group of people why no different than hitler where you0.57
00:36:14.140pick a minority people aren't like you pick a minority like a very small minority that people0.53
00:36:20.880can rally around they don't understand they don't know they can get angry at them trying to change
00:36:26.300the fabric of who they've always been. They're the same. They're the same. I don't see them any
00:36:34.480different, to be honest with you. And proof of that was that he just stole Reagan's tagline
00:36:40.600and rebranded, right? He just rebranded. So I don't know if I see them different.
00:36:49.200If you're a Republican and you believe that God has a place when you talk politics,
00:36:56.300i can't stand with you not because i don't like god right i'm sure he's lovely i just
00:37:05.480i don't care what religion it is either by the way i just as soon as you say politics and say god
00:37:12.980they have no no place together no and i think that it's so interesting because like i'm not
00:37:21.340a religious person by any means but i will defend till my last breath someone's right to believe
00:37:26.980what they want to believe their right to practice the religion of their choosing but that belief
00:37:33.080should not infringe on anyone else's life or how they choose to operate their life
00:37:41.720and if your belief system is impacting people and harming them that is a problem and i think that
00:37:50.020people hide behind religion as a justification for um narrow-minded very uh rigid um unbending
00:38:02.840and and frankly in some regards ignorant belief systems and i think it's like they're like well
00:38:10.680it's not in the bible well yeah a lot of things are not in the bible but also if we're really
00:38:14.840going to look at the bible and i'm going to say this i'm being contested i don't necessarily think0.96
00:38:19.720the god from the bible is very pro-life um there's a lot of smiting in there he sent a fucking flood0.52
00:38:29.320like i don't know a plague and all the firstborn sons look there's so much but but if i separate0.96
00:38:39.100myself you know you know what i would love i would love for somebody to understand this
00:38:43.520the fundamental not me because everybody thinks that the government controlling religion means
00:38:49.520I have to look at you and say, you're not allowed to pray on Saturday. That's not what we're talking
00:38:53.240about here. When you create a basis of society, that is one particular faith, whatever the faith
00:39:01.040may be, right? What you're doing is creating a morality based on that faith, that is not just,
00:39:11.100that is not equitable, that is sure as hell not secular or democratic. So you want the first thing
00:39:17.160the United States should do take in God we trust off your money do it tomorrow you know Canada and
00:39:24.880the United States should do no more Christmas break even if you're calling it holiday winter
00:39:29.840holiday festivus the festival of lights picket done Easter no long we need to really take
00:39:41.100physical account of our language and our structure, our foundational structure, if we are
00:39:48.920going to actually toe the line and say, we are not a religious, we are not based in a religion
00:39:56.900anymore. We are not promoting any religion. We are truly, and politicians, you can go home and
00:40:02.160pray on Saturday, Sunday, Thursday, whatever works for you. I don't care who you pray to,
00:40:06.820but you step to that microphone. I don't want to hear your thoughts and prayers.
00:40:10.840right which is interesting though right you do what you want in your home with your family0.59
00:40:19.080a hundred percent we don't we shouldn't be funding religious schools anymore i can't
00:40:24.440believe that the supreme court in the united states another another sort of decision they made0.58
00:40:29.480this this friggin machine gun decisions that they're making lately stipulates that
00:40:35.320you're allowed to use your tax dollars and refocus them so you can go to a private religious school0.86
00:40:43.120what that's brand new yeah so it's kind of like the whole charter school thing you should be
00:40:51.400allowed to go to whatever school you want to with your money it's it's it's a very disgusting way
00:40:57.220of breaking the i also just want to like with the charter school thing i also love that there's no
00:41:02.480actual at least the last time I looked there wasn't a lot of actual protections on who and what
00:41:09.760and how a charter school was created and and like how they use their money and how what kind of um
00:41:17.820education they're offering because like we see charter schools depicted on television and they're
00:41:25.340like this wonderful oasis of like creativity and arts programs are wonderful and they're usually
00:41:31.180like on a beach somewhere and just gorgeous. But then you actually like look into certain
00:41:38.380charter schools that are funded by corporations that are, are just horrific. And it, it, I find
00:41:46.280it so, so sad that like, I guess it's just like at this point, it's, it's sort of a joke, like
00:41:55.120looking at some of the decisions that the Supreme court has looked at, because I mean, one,
00:42:01.180you have roe v wade two you have the absolute apps the absolute inability to manage their gun violence
00:42:10.860um and like you can conceal your constitutional right to conceal and carry right your constitutional
00:42:17.960right to conceal and carry which is great what if what fun um especially in the face of the
00:42:25.440i think there's something like 252 uh two mass shootings um currently in the states up to right
00:42:33.220and up to the first of june 25 of them being uh school shootings which is insane to me which is
00:42:42.620insane to me but marjorie taylor green can stand up on the podium at the lectern and0.92
00:42:50.800attempt to rip apart a British reporter by saying you have mass stabbings.
00:42:58.800Well, thank you, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Yes, they'll definitely deal with their mass
00:43:08.740stabbing problem by simply not getting shot. Like, it's a problem, but you can easily run
00:43:17.100from a knife you can't run from a hail of bullets i honestly think we have we have to start at the
00:43:27.860beginning you know and and again we're talking about the united states right now i can talk
00:43:31.640about canada this is easy there's a lot of private schools in canada and i won't name names but
00:43:36.760there's a lot of private schools just like schools in general that create a template this is how the
00:43:43.560school is run, right? And somebody comes in to investigate, they show them all, this is the way
00:43:49.980we do it. And look at how perfect we are. And then depending on how much you give them, that's what
00:43:54.080the mark is you get. Look, there's that kind of corruption everywhere, everywhere. And so
00:44:01.740how do we stop that? Well, there's a lot of things that we could do to stop that. But I think
00:44:06.300fundamentally, what we need to start changing, and the United States needs to start looking at0.98
00:44:12.020is I think there should be significant challenges to the religious aspects found within government
00:44:21.100and within the structure. And I think those should be challenged. Now, this Supreme Court
00:44:25.000is going to say piss off, but I think I want to see the challenges. Why do you have in God
00:44:30.720we trust on your money? How is that not the government of the United States stipulating
00:44:39.160at the very least a judeo-christian government or is it not of course it is and any rational
00:44:49.220person would say it is and that hasn't it's only been like that since 1955 and why was it done
00:44:55.580like that well it was done like that sort of at the height or at the beginning of the cold well
00:45:00.780at the height of the cold war kind of leading into vietnam as this rallying agent in order to put us0.91
00:45:07.480against them, us, the Christianized saviors and them, whoever they happen to be. We need to start1.00
00:45:15.120attacking and deconstructing those foundations or else these decisions are just going to keep
00:45:22.720happening because it's on the structure. It's on the foundation of we are still a religious country
00:45:29.580and a religious country gets to make religious decisions, which is why all of these idiots are1.00
00:45:35.320spouting about having a soul when a baby is conceived. That has not anything to do with1.00
00:45:41.260science. No, it doesn't. Having a soul is a religious belief. I don't want conception. That
00:45:50.040is a religious belief. That's it. It needs to be out. It needs to never be discussed in a
00:45:58.000political sense. If you want to talk about your baby having a soul and how important that is
00:46:02.760in your home, in your family, in your church, in your mosque, in your whatever, again, I support it
00:46:08.700100%. But if we have a secular democracy, I do not support it being spoken about or being the
00:46:16.620foundation of any law or constitutional reform. And it still is. It's something that I just,0.89
00:46:26.080again, like you just said, you are free to believe what you want. If you want to believe
00:46:30.300that you are the fetus that is growing within your body has a soul great 100 i love that that
00:46:36.600is your that is your freedom and your choice sounds beautiful what i what i cannot support
00:46:41.280is you assigning that belief to somebody else and saying that because you believe something
00:46:45.900they are unable to have a medically saving advice or medically saving procedure um or
00:46:52.740rights to their own body and i i think that's where i i struggle especially considering like
00:47:00.160the states has one of the highest more like maternal mortality rates in the world it's like
00:47:08.460what 23.8 deaths for every 100,000 live births well it's because you have no health care down
00:47:14.160there yeah no exactly but it's like a high rate of cesarean sections inadequate inadequate prenatal
00:47:19.420care you have like elevated chronic illnesses like obesity you have diabetes heart disease
00:47:26.640And, of course, like, they're like, now every person with a uterus is forced by this, they believe, is forced to give birth, forcibly give birth, but they're not going to expand the healthcare system and the support that they give anyone.0.60
00:47:51.320They're not going to have any place for these once-born children to go and live into. Their foster care system is completely overwhelmed and underfunded. They can't even figure out the children that they do have in foster care.
00:48:11.260they have no mental health uh care for anyone they're talking about mental health is a huge
00:48:15.980topic after uh uvalde but they've not done anything to expand mental health care exactly
00:48:23.940it all comes down to money but like and now they've thrown that thrown it back to the states
00:48:31.280and 13 of those states are going to have trigger laws that come into effect immediately or 30 days
00:48:35.780after and they're like exceptions for the mother if the woman is in like uh immediate danger for
00:48:43.420some but like what does that mean it doesn't specify that in the opinion yeah it doesn't
00:48:49.920specify that any of the trigger laws so like you have that woman um like sorry i'm gonna
00:48:55.420butcher where she was but she's in one of the states and she sat for nine hours after an eptopic
00:49:02.580rupture as the doctor conferred with a lawyer to make sure that he was not going to get put in jail
00:49:09.680and lose his license yeah thankfully they saved her but she was like septic by the time they were
00:49:15.840able to like get around to it and that's the issue here is that if you happen to suffer from a septic
00:49:22.500uterus or an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage doesn't pass out of your body what is the plan
00:49:28.800and these people who are just being like well life begins at conception and there's
00:49:33.440and like you shouldn't be getting an abortion great okay awesome show your work though like
00:49:38.120what is the plan for the women who are going to they don't have one exactly but then
00:49:44.660this is the thing they don't have one until it affects them a hundred percent and then they're0.67
00:49:52.340going to be like why is the government here to protect me where's the government's legal like
00:49:56.720legal recourse to protect my right to my body. I need this life-saving care, but it's okay for
00:50:03.340them to look at other people because the infant mortality, the maternal mortality rate for
00:50:09.280black women is like 55.3 deaths out of 100,000 births. It's almost double that.
00:50:19.340Well, that's why we're at another point that we haven't spoken about yet,
00:50:22.820which Jane Elliott, probably one of my most favorite few people on the planet,0.85
00:50:27.800talked about birth to earth and talked about the whitening0.81
00:50:31.060and how the certain political parties and certain people within politics0.77
00:50:37.760want to make sure that the white population grows
00:50:41.460and the white population is getting bigger.0.57
00:50:43.680And right now we're looking at, what, 60% of all abortions
00:53:18.940And we have to be able to say that out loud and hold them to it.
00:53:23.900And again, we're still coming from these ridiculous notions of, you know, superior culture, superior people. I mean, it's very Hitler-esque. I mean, it's no, this control of eugenics, and it is no different than 1933 Germany.0.67
00:54:14.360like i just want to go back and make the point of the fact that like you said something like
00:54:19.500we'll adopt your kids oh my god the other 424 000 children in foster care
00:54:25.540or like it's just like or like the 114 or so thousand of them who cannot be returned to
00:54:34.800their families and are now waiting to be adopted if you want to adopt a kid that's perfectly fine
00:54:40.100But, like, let's not for a moment spread this, like, notion that people are just lining up to adopt these now will-be babies that are being forced to have women birth them.
00:54:58.320and they're just going to go directly into a family a loving family or the state is going to
00:55:03.140provide services for single mothers or or women who are experiencing poverty uh mental health
00:55:13.160care uh health care just as a just a general health care um or any kind of services like
00:55:21.120a food stamp service social services anything like that to help these people raise these now
00:55:26.520children the government has forced you to have it's a lack of consistency you know i mean i've
00:55:32.460been reading this i was going to do a tiktok about it and and i just i don't know i'll talk
00:55:37.760about it here rather than there but the notion that if every life matters let's put that on the
00:55:43.260table in a real way for a second potential life in real life i'm assuming i'm assuming
00:55:49.360that if you're going to have a person that says, every potential life matters as much as life,
00:55:57.280then life matters. The people standing beside me matter just as much, just as much as a fetus.
00:56:05.380I'm not, I don't necessarily, I don't think that, but let's, let's put them equal for a minute.
00:56:10.340Okay. So if I get pregnant, I have a, an obligation, a legal obligation to protect that
00:56:18.260life as much as i can okay so then if stew needs a bone marrow transplant and i'm a match
00:56:27.580shouldn't i not be mandated to give you that if you need a kidney and i got two
00:56:36.760shouldn't that life matter just as much forget me being alive i'm even going to take that off
00:56:44.520the table. I die. Shouldn't I be mandated to donate all of my organs? It's not even a choice
00:56:57.280of my life or somebody else's. I am not using it anymore. No matter what you think the afterlife,
00:57:03.920I am out of body. So should I not be legally just as much as I'm legally mandated to protect that
00:57:13.620fetus that hasn't even developed into anything yet, shouldn't I be equally, I'm even saying
00:57:20.320equally mandated to protect somebody on this planet, walking on this planet that needs something
00:57:27.160that I can provide and that won't kill me? Isn't it? I want to hear one. I want to hear one pro-lifer
00:57:36.760ally themselves with that because then at least even though I don't agree with it at least
00:57:44.060we're talking consistency and you're actually putting your money where your mouth is
00:57:50.520I haven't heard one go ahead mandate post-mortem organ donation and that's the best part is the
00:58:00.340fact that I'm I'm pretty sure I'm not like well-versed on this but I'm pretty sure that1.00
00:58:04.860um a brain dead person has more rights currently than most females in the states0.93
00:58:12.720because you can't actually take the organs without consent you know what yeah well there
00:58:19.680you go Anna made a great point the other day she goes isn't it interesting that a fetus is alive
00:58:26.040when it has a heartbeat but if a person has a heartbeat but they are brain dead we can pull
00:58:32.980the plug yeah yep where's the consistency
00:58:38.780it's also quite funny i don't know it's just i find it really interesting that we put
00:58:47.740more we hold the two up like this is the other thing um is we hold up sarah sarah huckabee
00:58:56.780sanders made a point oh jesus i can't babies are as safe in the womb as they are in school that
00:59:04.160woman said that out loud she thought she ate it too um but here's the question for it like here's
00:59:11.700the question is that people were like or you have that like 12 year old kid that i i kind of stitch
00:59:20.380his video where he was like why is it okay to kill babies in the womb but not kill children in the
00:59:26.600classroom and people are like he has a point though no he doesn't have a point because what
00:59:33.700you're saying is you have a mother or a woman rather or a person or a person with a uterus
00:59:41.260aborts their the fetus is the same as them going up to their two-year-old child and shooting their
00:59:50.940two-year-old child dead that's the same it's not the same you would hold it differently0.55
00:59:57.000a classroom full of dead uh eight-year-olds is different than
01:00:03.760a aborted fetus and people trying to equate them is not is not a the comparative is not the same
01:00:12.880somebody was in my comments in twitter a few days ago and they're like
01:00:18.000a person is a person. I'm like, if you quote Dr. Seuss, I'm going to have to.
01:00:26.080A person's a person. So they are assigning personhood as a fetus. Okay. So they're like,
01:00:32.980that's a person. And I said, listen, you can assign it whatever you want. There are stages
01:00:39.220of development in which both science and the law and common sense dictates we give different rights
01:00:47.720and different responsibilities and different levels of protection. And she's like, well,
01:00:53.400a child's a person. I said, okay, let's run with that for a second. Your child is your property.
01:01:01.560Heaven help me. I wish they weren't this particular person's property, but you get to make
01:01:06.060every single decision for that child. Why? Because they don't have any rights. They technically
01:01:14.480have zero rights, zero agency, zero anything until they're 18 years old.
01:01:22.420We don't even allow them to make their own decisions. You're telling me if that same kid,
01:01:29.240because it's the same woman that would make the same argument, you don't even want them changing
01:01:33.520their name and going by a pronoun that they feel that they identify with, because somehow that's0.89
01:01:39.860not their power to do. That's yours. Different stages allow for different rights and responsibilities.
01:01:48.580There is no way a sack of cells that you can't, you don't even know what it is, to be honest.
01:01:55.620At eight weeks, if you had a miscarriage, you wouldn't, you would think you had a bad period
01:02:00.640for the most part. And you're telling me that has just as much right as a five-year-old,
01:02:08.500as a 21 year old, you're, you're lying. You're flat out lying. Because the development and the
01:02:17.500cognitive ability is what makes us human. That sack of cells or that heartbeat does not make
01:02:24.060them human. It makes them a differentiated block of cells. And to be honest, at 12 weeks,
01:02:30.780You can't tell the difference between a human embryo and an elephant embryo.0.58
01:02:40.180But also, too, like, I'm going to kind of build off your point, is that if a child is, if you are pro-life and you're going to hold it to this very narrow definition of what life is, then the child that you're bringing into this world deserves not to live in poverty.
01:03:00.780which 20 percent of the children in the united states do you have the right to health care
01:03:07.960and to have a chance eight million children in the united states don't have health insurance
01:03:14.700that's one in ten children and and it's it's doubled if you're a minority there are there
01:03:24.280are so many like nutrition 12 million american children struggle with um access to to food and
01:03:32.340nutrition and we have them cutting um meal programs in schools um like it's it's insane to me
01:03:43.580that you want to say that these things are your pro-life and bring a child into the world because
01:03:51.480every child deserves um or every fetus deserves a right to become a child and live a free life
01:03:58.060because they could cure cancer one day if i hear that one more time i'm gonna go insane
01:04:02.000but then great great awesome give them a good life then yeah give them the shot at that give
01:04:10.460them the shot at that because 10 to 1 that that fetus will develop into a child and unfortunately
01:04:16.780Unfortunately, there's a, the data will prove it, that it may not have a great life. And I am so, I am really, really sick to death of seeing pro-lifers being interviewed who were like, well, my aunt or my mother got an abortion 20 years ago, 40 years ago, and they regret their decision, so I'm here fighting for them.
01:04:44.280but they made that choice and in some regards they didn't and that should be talked about more
01:04:49.460but those like most of the time they made that choice for themselves and you're basically holding
01:04:55.220up and saying that their regret of the choice that they made is your foundation to deny that
01:05:02.660choice to any other person if we're going to talk about regrets controlling policy let's talk about
01:05:09.140how many people regret getting married. So maybe the institution in its entirety should be thrown
01:05:15.120out the window. People have the freedom to make choices, to regret the maybe, to learn from them.
01:05:23.460Nobody will ever know the opposite. That's the thing too, right? Like somebody that makes a
01:05:28.520choice to have an abortion, they could think about it at the very least. Let's say maybe
01:05:35.440they think about it but we will never know what the other path looked like because they never
01:05:40.880took both paths right could have been horrific who knows nobody knows exactly say which path
01:05:50.400is worse we can only say the past that we chose and we had the freedom to do so is life perfect
01:05:55.520absolutely not should people have inherent rights to control their own body and the own
01:06:01.600they're at the very least their own body that's all you got let's really think about it we can't
01:06:07.120control where we're born we can't control the color of our skin we can't control the sexism
01:06:12.560the racism the homophobia we step into the only thing we can control and we don't even have
01:06:18.000control of our own bodies half the time especially being women and and levels of sexual assault but
01:06:25.360But if that's it, if that's the basic, then let's at least, at the very least, if we're
01:06:36.220going to be minimalist about it, let's at least protect, and this is where I go back
01:06:44.900And that's why there is one thing I agree with.
01:06:48.580I wouldn't have made the argument based on privacy.
01:06:52.680I would have made the argument based on life and liberty.
01:06:55.360Period. That's where the argument lie. My life, my liberty comes before anybody. I make that choice for me before any other person on this planet. And if that weren't true, I'm going to go down and donate that bone marrow tomorrow.