Unlearn16: Class is in Session - The One Where Ana Lures Me To The Dark Side

00:00:00.000 class is in session is that delicious welcome to unlearn 16 classes in session i feel the need to

00:00:11.460 lean in i don't know if i need to lean in uh right now i'm drinking a slurpee and a slushy

00:00:17.340 whatever it is you people call it if you're not watching right now it is blue absolutely blue my

00:00:22.520 favorite is lime and she always says that it's the worst but leave it down in the comments if

00:00:28.100 you love lime as much as me yeah could you put in the comments which the best flavor of slushy is

00:00:33.600 i'm gonna tell you right now i don't even think they they serve lime and of course they well

00:00:38.840 i i haven't seen it they have to guys that's so many people love it it was starting so bad

00:00:46.480 i just want to say this before we get into it today anna doesn't really like talking and

00:00:53.900 arguing and debating that's not the person she is having said that um there are a handful of

00:01:01.320 topics we agree on a handful of things we we like and we enjoy together and one is star wars if you

00:01:09.360 if you can see i am wearing my full star wars hat and if you can i mean uh shirt and if you can see

00:01:15.940 this one to my right here is wearing my full my star wars hat my my i'd like to point that out

00:01:22.800 um she gave it to me in the background of the podcast image you will see an original 1977

00:01:29.280 so the point she's trying to make is if you're listening make sure you go check out the youtube

00:01:34.260 version as well so that you can see you know what it's not really the here's the point i'm trying

00:01:39.600 to make um i have been a star wars fan since 1977 and and i've watched them in the correct order

00:01:48.120 and I you know I've done all the pre-work I've done all the post work I mean and and this one

00:01:54.340 over here thinks she knows Star Wars better and somehow has more of a deep perspective and guys

00:02:01.300 we're sitting watching we did we agreed to watch all nine again number one first problem right off

00:02:08.040 the hop I say baby let's watch all Star Wars she said yeah that's a good idea because we don't agree

00:02:13.440 on anything right i said okay so i go to put in episode four as every star wars fan on the planet

00:02:22.260 would and she looks at me and goes excuse me i said what's the problem she goes we start with

00:02:28.520 one i said no you don't why wouldn't you want to watch something in chronological order because

00:02:33.920 the whole point of starting with four a not only is it chronological for the way it came out

00:02:39.840 and prequels matter because you've already we can't get into this right i think we gotta save

00:02:44.680 this for the for the argument i gotta i just gotta point out the okay introduce and use the podcast

00:02:50.920 go so number one we fight over what order to watch them in number two i say fine baby let's do

00:02:59.060 number one first because i'm a loving caring individual she really is who gives up my own

00:03:04.160 sense of self and identity for what is right and then guys here's what happens next episode one

00:03:12.640 comes up and here comes the scroll and any true star wars fan your favorite like the the moment

00:03:19.820 where you hear that music and then you read that scroll is the most powerful introduction there's

00:03:26.360 ripley in the back of the camera she also likes the millennium falcon i'd like to point that out

00:03:30.900 that's the most powerful minute this one does this what are you doing no i just no i said can

00:03:36.940 we fast forward can't i think we could stop the podcast right now and i think 99 of people 0.94

00:03:44.980 uh will say joanna you're 100 right you're gonna get larissa because she likes to suck up to you

00:03:51.500 but that's what the cat's now scratching at the carpet she's upset you've upset her by talking

00:03:55.900 about skipping the scroll first of all she loves scratching this carpet so i don't think that it's

00:04:00.740 because she's upset guys guys guys okay so we're gonna get into it today we're gonna talk about

00:04:05.840 all nine in some way shape or form star wars movies the underlying principles the the character

00:04:13.440 the acting the everything for those who are expecting like like those guys on the internet

00:04:21.180 that like know the backstory because they read the one issue of the comic book that was only

00:04:25.620 released in like sweden in 1987 we're not those people i'm gonna look i'm not i'm not that person

00:04:33.000 you're not that person so we we're not going to compete with that we're going to give you an

00:04:37.760 average watcher also if you are hearing trembling it is not that's the garbage truck it's yeah he's

00:04:45.140 serious about his job ripley's keeping good eye good eye keep a good eye on that all right so

00:04:50.720 let's first so right off the hop guys we have some differing of opinions about how to watch it

00:04:58.080 you didn't even introduce welcome everybody this is i'll learn 16 classes in session i did guest

00:05:03.100 today anna pack we're talking about star wars i'm sweating right now i'm sweating right now

00:05:10.220 because i already am so upset with the conversation that's gonna happen so we're gonna jump into all

00:05:16.620 of the different characters all of the different themes right off the hop who's your favorite

00:05:20.360 character be honest i really like that's right for those who are listening for those who are

00:05:30.760 listening i think we can disavow all of your information coming forward jar jar's her favorite 0.58

00:05:36.540 i also quite enjoy um c-3po it's because he's gay doesn't he feel gay to you doesn't the tone 0.95

00:05:43.520 of his voice we're talking in stereotypes now i'm gonna get all these people yelling at me but c-3po

00:05:47.380 to me has some gay vibes maybe that's why you're drawn to him maybe i mean i didn't that wasn't

00:05:55.460 like my thought i just thought he's funny but i'm just saying he's got a vibe okay so

00:06:01.200 we jump into it we're gonna start i guess for the love of god we'll start at episode one i

00:06:06.760 i don't know if i can go like episode to episode i just have like specific points

00:06:13.880 oh god she can't even talk about each episode you have all right all right look we're again

00:06:22.640 i'm gonna put down my whole identity and we're not gonna do it in a rational debating we're

00:06:27.820 gonna do it go ahead what do you got what's your first point my first point is that it wasn't

00:06:36.020 anakin's fault it was you're gonna have to elaborate look you and i are both teachers you

00:06:44.120 um work more in an academical situation did you just say academical academical um can somebody

00:06:52.260 please uh grammar check or spell check anyways and regardless me more in the arts but anyways

00:06:58.260 point being is that we work with kids and we both know that different situations call for different

00:07:06.860 ways to teach a certain well whatever it is that you're teaching that day but it calls for you

00:07:13.940 know differences and so you have this whole storyline saying that he was always angry and

00:07:21.480 his anger is what did him and blah blah blah and fear and so on and his attachments and whatever

00:07:27.160 right everyone's always skipping over all the important parts but it's but it's not

00:07:31.100 with it it is point we're gonna have to talk about the point that i is the point that i'm

00:07:36.700 and i'll get to that in a second don't you point at me the point that i'm trying to make is that

00:07:42.100 first of all they had already said that he was too old to be trained so now we know

00:07:48.920 that there's specific guidelines that we need to follow in order to follow this particular

00:07:53.760 curriculum that they've got going on pause did they still train him I need to finish my story

00:08:00.440 no no no no no because you said that the year because your argument is going to be they never

00:08:05.060 broke the rules for him they never changed what they did for him yada yada what I'm saying to you

00:08:09.140 is the initial rule was he is too old to be trained and Qui-Gon and and uh Obi-Wan and even

00:08:18.820 yoda bent to that uh-huh and decided to train him otherwise so they're not so hard steadfast in their

00:08:27.060 um ways of doing things that they're not willing to break it for exceptions that's what that proves

00:08:32.660 okay one exception in ages and ages of jedis so the fact is is that 52 the fact is is that okay

00:08:42.980 so that's literally two exceptions in the entirety of everything so listen did you watch everybody

00:08:47.860 else get trained listen point is is that they said that he was trained last year he was

00:08:53.420 he was too old they said that they did not want to train him there was pushback and then at some

00:09:00.120 point they said fine at that point when they said fine he now became their obligation to

00:09:09.600 do right by him in order to make sure that he succeeds because it is not a child's responsibility

00:09:20.560 to figure out what it is they're supposed to figure out. It's the teacher's responsibility

00:09:29.960 to make sure that they get there and that wasn't done. One, because every time that

00:09:37.880 he needed help or whatever oh my god or every time that something arose he wanted something

00:09:46.720 he was always pushed down and it was like every time that he was down they just kept kicking him

00:09:51.060 you don't kick someone while they're down and it was like left down left right left right

00:09:56.800 you're not giving any specific examples okay because you're giving generalities i'll give

00:10:00.580 you a specific example when he was having those dreams that uh know about padme yeah he went to

00:10:10.320 yoda and basically lied no he didn't lie he absolutely lied he didn't tell him what the

00:10:17.280 relationship was with padme he didn't say how intimate they become he hid all that information

00:10:23.240 he from yoda he lied he still wanted to train somebody who lies he went to go get help and

00:10:29.940 basically what yoda said was like let it pass that's not true that you i am going listen if

00:10:37.820 you're gonna make copyright let it play it's not what he said he said you're supposed to let go of

00:10:44.000 your attachments now you can debate on what makes a good jedi if attachments make a good jedi if

00:10:49.420 they don't make a good jedi but the point of a jedi and we should have done this at the very

00:10:53.500 beginning. The point of the Jedi is to be just. And in order to be just, you have to let go of

00:11:00.600 all attachments. And if you don't let go of all attachments, what you end up doing is you

00:11:05.580 prioritize one person or one group over others, not in the essence of what is just and what is

00:11:13.060 fair and what is right, but in the essence of what your heart is connected to. And as Jedi,

00:11:17.900 Jedi you are detached from that so you do what is right and not all Jedis can do that to be honest 0.93

00:11:25.840 Obi-Wan didn't do it right or else he wouldn't Qui-Gon didn't do it because Qui-Gon immediately 0.90

00:11:32.060 felt an attachment to him Obi-Wan felt an attachment to him to the point where he is just 0.98

00:11:37.720 going to live and die on that dusty planet until that kid's ready to fight okay right so they all

00:11:43.300 didn't do it but they all understand they're supposed to the problem with with him the problem

00:11:48.680 with anakin is he fought that he said that's not what makes a good makes a good jedi that's the

00:11:55.560 problem but it's not because he did try to no he didn't he kept saying that's not what jedis do or

00:12:01.740 sure he'll say it also not to mention himself back in that position so you're saying you know

00:12:07.500 a jedi is supposed to be this way and that way and you said that both obi-wan and qui-gon didn't

00:12:13.280 didn't do that yet the council still decided to appoint them and make them jedi masters yet

00:12:20.500 anakin is just as but anakin has all the powers and credentials nearly the time anakin wanted to

00:12:29.480 be a jedi master almost as soon as obi-wan was if anakin would have stepped back and said look at

00:12:35.160 how long look at the length of time obi-wan has taken to get there sometimes it takes people a

00:12:40.700 shorter amount of time and i'd agree with you achieve certain if he could detach if he could

00:12:45.420 master that emotion right but you're you just said that obi-wan wasn't able to yet he was still made

00:12:51.000 a mass yes he was able to do it to a much greater degree to the point where to the point where he

00:12:57.720 makes decisions that end up having luke uh sorry not luke anakin killed he makes decisions that

00:13:05.560 get Anakin almost killed his arms were cut off his legs were cut off almost killed right he made

00:13:13.100 those decisions why he didn't want to make those decisions but he knew that that the fate of the

00:13:18.740 of the whole system was going to be at risk but he couldn't bring himself to actually do it

00:13:23.660 did it but Anakin didn't make those decisions Anakin consistently made those decisions to

00:13:29.720 we're gonna skip over his mom apparently killing all those kids but anakin consistently made

00:13:35.160 decisions to save one person and one person alone anakin walked directly into that and the

00:13:42.420 again because he wasn't trained properly no again because if you know that someone has certain

00:13:50.140 attachments you can't just be like okay team now let it go i have a great you can't okay i have a

00:13:54.960 great question you have to have a different way of approaching different situations and the jedi

00:14:00.040 council let him down absolutely not i agree that all students can get taught differently sure we

00:14:05.340 can we can agree on that can you also agree that there will be students who will be great and

00:14:10.300 students who won't be sure okay so by essence of that had they given anakin more power and succumb

00:14:19.360 to his very and we can all admit childlike temper tantrums because we see it in him and then we see

00:14:25.300 it in kylo kylo they just accentuate exactly who anakin was which was a temper tantrum um i want

00:14:34.080 it my way or the highway little child but that's because he wasn't taught no no he was still being

00:14:41.080 taught that's because he was still being taught but when he demanded to be on the council remember

00:14:47.100 who did that he was so easily manipulated that demanding for him to be on the council by um the

00:14:55.480 emperor why because the entire council kept saying no no no even though you're amazing amazing amazing

00:15:01.900 still no no no amazing amazing amazing they said that he had natural ability that a high level of

00:15:07.040 metachlorines nobody ever said you were better than anyone else that's anakin's head it that's

00:15:13.120 anakin's head it's um it's the fact that palpatine builds him up instead of tearing him down highly

00:15:20.440 no no but palpatine and now now we're in oh god wait to hear a second point folks now you're into

00:15:26.760 a situation where palpatine he didn't build him up he manipulated him by building no he didn't

00:15:33.340 so if his team of people who are supposed to be on his side had built him up instead of tear him

00:15:40.880 you're missing the point constantly that's lying that's like a kid that sits in the back of my

00:15:46.080 classroom cheats lies steals manipulates somebody comes in and goes you're a really good student no

00:15:52.300 they're not no they're not well he but that kid wants to believe somebody else anakin is

00:16:00.240 the strongest jedi though no he's not you know how i know he's not the strongest jedi he's the

00:16:07.040 chosen one he lost he's the chosen one he's not the chosen one i know you're stuck on this chosen 0.84

00:16:12.060 one but he's not the chosen one one who is the chosen one he's the chosen one ray i'll stop it

00:16:18.000 ray's the one that brings balance to the force it was even it was already confirmed that he's

00:16:21.620 the chosen by who you we re-watched it by who who said he was the chosen one qui-gon said he's the

00:16:26.180 one yoda said i don't know author of the movie oh my god facts should i drop my mic now lucas

00:16:34.320 it go Mike drop roll the clip second point I never saw that confirmation second point that I want to

00:16:39.780 make oh god wait wait wait we have to get back to no no okay we can't just skip over what's his face

00:16:46.140 we can't just skip over the emperor whispering in his ear saying you're the best you're the best

00:16:50.960 you're the best that's a lie that's not building him up that's manipulation and if his mind was

00:16:57.040 clear if he wasn't so driven by fear and by the by attachment he would have seen that but because

00:17:04.500 he was driven by those things and that's going to take time because of where he grew up and how he

00:17:09.520 grew up that's going to take time for those things to go away if ever if ever i don't think we're

00:17:14.820 gonna i don't think we're gonna agree on this because again that's manipulation i can i can

00:17:19.060 come back and say how is a how is a student most likely to succeed by you always saying no that's

00:17:28.840 not how you do it blah blah blah or by praising the things that the student does right but if you

00:17:34.820 watch i would love everybody to watch episode one and two because he is praised but for anakin there

00:17:39.440 will never be enough praise because for anakin praise is supposed to lead instantaneously to

00:17:45.600 something else because he's driven by those attachments i don't think he was ever praised

00:17:50.260 100 he was qui-gon rest qui-gon risked his life to get him off that planet but all qui-gon did

00:17:57.900 died and what did qui-gon say to oh you have to train him yeah and obi-wan went against the whole

00:18:03.720 council and trained him and stood and this kid still thinks he's not supported for people that

00:18:10.920 have been through that kind of trauma look there's some deeper meanings here for people that have

00:18:16.020 been through that kind of trauma it's going to take an awful long time for them to have a true

00:18:21.380 sense of what support looks like and what those steps look like it can't be instantaneous there

00:18:28.380 is no other in the history of the council person as young as anakin ever admitted ever yoda can we

00:18:36.420 agree yoda is the top dog yoda took hundreds of years to get to where he is dude was 800

00:18:44.400 but by the end of it all sure but when was he that was just his span but when was he made

00:18:50.780 mess like when was he declared but again there is no in the hit they said it right in the movie

00:18:55.240 there is no person that was that young ever in the history of the council you got to take time

00:19:00.940 but just because even a master yet and he wanted on the council but just because um

00:19:06.560 just because it hadn't been done before just because he is the youngest doesn't mean that

00:19:13.840 it can't it just proves that at a young age he could have but he couldn't have because he still

00:19:20.040 had so much fear so much anxiety he was riddled every time he made a decision it was based on

00:19:26.940 emotion in high intensity emotions and that's not how you make but that wasn't trained properly but

00:19:32.180 that's not how you make a balanced decision so you're saying that we're supposed to back no he

00:19:38.560 wasn't held back again and again and again he was put in situation held back he thought he didn't

00:19:44.020 trained anymore no he kept saying i'm done being trained i'm good to go sign me up for master when

00:19:50.520 in actuality, every single instance proved that he wasn't ready. Sure, he could come out of it,

00:19:57.140 but what were his motivations? Because if your motivations aren't for justice, if they don't

00:20:02.220 come from balance, if they don't come from calm, you are not making just decisions. And his whole,

00:20:09.620 his entire reason for being was Padme. Now we can say that's romantic. You're still stuck on the

00:20:17.080 fact that the the only point that i'm trying to make is that he wasn't put into the council but

00:20:25.080 it's not he wasn't it's not just yeah but it's not just like that specific point it's the fact that

00:20:31.980 at every turn it was never good job anakin or you're doing good anakin it was never that

00:20:38.840 100 i think we could go back everybody can go back and count how many times obi-wan said that

00:20:43.340 was amazing but when when anakin puts other jedis at risk like when they were fighting dooku when

00:20:49.680 anakin puts other jedis at risk consistently because he is not going in with rationality

00:20:54.700 he's not going in with calm he puts everybody at risk any differently yeah but that's the

00:21:00.120 point he wasn't he he was being taught he was being he was being taught in the same way

00:21:07.040 that the other younglings were being taught no because every time those younglings how much more

00:21:14.120 freedom he got how much more how much more um like how much more freedom how much more

00:21:21.260 responsibility he got he got all of this stuff why because obi-wan was pushing for it pushing

00:21:26.840 for it because he believed him to be the one hi baby all right we're gonna move on to point two

00:21:33.020 and if you thought point one was annoying just wait to point two go ahead point two um and this

00:21:39.400 is ripley who now wants to sit here during the podcast um see i don't know if i want to go to

00:21:45.900 point two or reverse to like point zero point one because i feel like we got it skipped point zero

00:21:50.480 point one zero point one because we went to point one so we have to what's zero point one i think

00:21:55.780 that oh man i don't even know if i've heard this yet i think that um the whole jedi situation

00:22:03.020 might be a cult because listen though because if there are any star wars fans listening to this

00:22:11.600 listen don't shut us off they take you from anyone who could possibly be like maybe not the

00:22:19.840 best idea and that's what cults do they remove you from people that you know center you and and

00:22:26.140 things like that and they remove them who is centering him his slave owner well his mom but

00:22:31.880 i just mean right now you're just talking his mom's problematic but no jedi gets to take their

00:22:35.960 mom but and that's exactly what i'm saying i'm not just speaking on anakin right now i'm speaking

00:22:39.920 on everybody they are taken away from their people who would you know in normal life say

00:22:47.360 maybe not the best idea because really they're taking them away and but they're training they're

00:22:53.200 training child um army people no but they're but they're not i mean i mean why does it say it's a

00:23:00.160 call i mean anything you can say anything's a call you have to decide what they why does it good is

00:23:05.140 why is there a lightsaber in a kid's hand because they're competent apparently they couldn't all

00:23:11.680 those 50 of them couldn't take out anakin that one time though but they look he they lured him in he

00:23:16.640 he lured them in listen i mean i guess we can talk about that but the the end of the day

00:23:22.320 they're taking these kids that have gifts in order to magnify their gift and they are taking

00:23:28.620 them away from their families i get that because again attachment breeds making decisions that

00:23:35.360 aren't the best for the planet that aren't the best for the world they are the best for you

00:23:39.560 so point number two now that we got to from 0.5 now we can get to point number two so you're

00:23:46.900 taken away from all that and basically the jedi are saying repress all your emotions

00:23:54.080 so then it's like she's never seen an episode that's so then you're like

00:23:59.780 well i don't know anyone who has ever said to repress your emotions they didn't say repress

00:24:06.160 they don't say repress they say don't let them control you emotions are incredibly important

00:24:11.380 the foundation of a jedi is compassion and to have compassion you need to have empathy but you need

00:24:17.260 to have equalized empathy to all living creatures because all living creatures matter that are

00:24:23.200 walking this planet as much as the next one when we have unjust levels of compassion according to

00:24:29.720 the jedi those people then protect their own and as soon as you form tribes as soon as you reform

00:24:39.200 form that kind of idea when you're protecting your own you're not making good holistic decisions and

00:24:45.200 if you're not making holistic decisions that's cool you don't have to but the jedi is there to

00:24:50.400 make sure the whole planet works what makes of its ability what makes padme any less

00:24:55.600 what what makes padme any less any less what what are you talking about any less of a jedi

00:25:03.780 she's never a jedi no what any less what any less like what makes her survival or what her death

00:25:11.820 any less important than anybody else's why just because he loves her no no oh that's a great

00:25:17.840 question let me answer that because it wasn't just about her death because by him only caring

00:25:23.580 about her death he got lured and and transformed into the dark side he created the empire don't

00:25:33.440 you think that things would have been a lot more different if yoda in that moment had helped him

00:25:40.500 yoda didn't know want to know why because he said just let it pass anakin was lying about who she

00:25:47.520 was and about what he was willing to do maybe he omitted it but he was are we now saying omissions

00:25:52.660 aren't lie we're gonna need to take a break to find out what a lie is in a relationship no but

00:25:57.500 I'm worried that omitting things isn't a lie what I'm saying is is that he went for help and maybe

00:26:03.300 he wasn't ready to talk about the entire thing but he still went for help and what he was told

00:26:07.840 was to let it go no what he was told is the future is driven by emotion that's why every time Yoda's

00:26:15.240 asked for the future he says the future is unclear we cannot predict the only person that deals in

00:26:22.400 absolutes are the sith and and it's no different the reason why i love star wars so much or and i

00:26:28.260 think a lot of people a lot of people love star wars so much is because it really talks no put

00:26:34.060 down your fear yeah you have to learn how to not be led by your fear absolutely absolutely you need

00:26:39.920 to feel your emotions you you can feel them so maybe understand there's a difference between

00:26:44.060 feeling them and being led by them i don't know if he was led by them but i know that he was led

00:26:49.440 by it everything he did was fear that Padme was gonna die he could use it no just like in life

00:26:55.300 you're allowed to use your emotions sure but if you're led by one if you're not tapping into all

00:27:01.880 of them he's also led by love I don't think it was love I think it was attachment I think love

00:27:08.340 love true love and this is what lots of people would say true love even in that circumstance

00:27:15.200 he would have said i'm gonna let her go in that circumstance do you love me stop it am i at risk

00:27:23.580 of going to the dark side am i a jedi am i am i at the the hands of being able to do that no

00:27:29.840 notice notice that they never say the evil side it's not the good side here we go side guys

00:27:38.340 it's just i like to put a trigger warning right before this uh next argument it's just the light

00:27:43.620 side and the dark side it's not good and evil i don't understand why first of all we can't live

00:27:49.220 in both that's interesting a lot of people think luke was a gray jedi okay a lot of people think

00:27:55.740 luke was a gray jedi well we're not supposed to live in both because what it's showing is the

00:27:59.740 world will always have both that's what the whole point of that is right but it's not necessarily

00:28:05.260 being evil it's just the people that were nest were portrayed in this movie ended up doing evil

00:28:10.920 things. That's not true. But anybody that's lured by the dark side is our four selfish,

00:28:19.500 fearful, anxiety-driven goals. They are the negative, not negative people. I think the

00:28:26.820 reason why they don't call them evil people is because I think a person can be swayed just like

00:28:32.020 there was then swayed back to the good side of the force. But the reality is that those

00:28:37.120 characteristics, those inherent drives, those, um, those emotions we can choose to be led by.

00:28:45.600 And I, and I, I find it interesting because of how you lead your life and how you lead your life

00:28:51.400 with, with positivity and focusing on that because you know that you manifest things, which is by the

00:28:57.340 way the force well it is i mean guys take the word crystal and put in lightsaber and pretty much

00:29:10.160 sure but crystal so so does the dark side but here's my yeah you're right but they use them

00:29:17.460 for the wrong purposes so if if you if you were sitting there but that's because being led by

00:29:23.280 fear but that's what are you likely to get it's because the people that are portrayed in the

00:29:29.660 movies have a different um objective to gain with the power that they have power yeah okay they want

00:29:41.160 power they want control and they want it for their own might and their own yes validity and

00:29:46.720 and those are and and those are the characters like tell me the siths and what's a good thing

00:29:53.200 that comes out of fear hold on it's not but you keep saying fear but the thing is that it's not

00:29:59.240 just fear because they say that the dark side just uses their emotions period regardless of

00:30:07.220 whether it's fear or anger now they used in the movie fear and anger but they said is people who

00:30:13.980 are led by their emotions so it could be good emotions it could be and that's the point that

00:30:20.180 i'm trying to make is that you could be on the dark on the dark side because you are using your

00:30:25.780 emotions and not necessarily have a ulterior motive to use that force with you could just have

00:30:32.940 that force but be using the the dark side give me an example

00:30:39.360 well they didn't put one in the movie go ahead make one up if you understand the depths of this

00:30:45.220 so much because i feel like the new um she's not a new character ahsoka i think is her name

00:30:53.060 is it which one in obi-wan well no not in obi-wan ahsoka she's the one with the i think the yellow

00:31:03.400 or white lightsabers she's got the who plays her i don't know what episode she in she well

00:31:11.660 i'm pretty sure she was in mandalorian she appeared in in a few episodes of them is it

00:31:18.600 jennifer beale's character does she have the long head like it looks like her head's extended oh oh

00:31:23.120 no no it's um i don't know much about her to talk about her well she's not by emotion i don't either

00:31:28.860 but yeah but she left the jedi because she didn't believe in in what was happening and so she went

00:31:37.040 to the dark side but she didn't have those ulterior motives of using the force in order to

00:31:43.100 gain power or whatever but she did go to the dark side just because she feels her emotions

00:31:52.340 i don't know what character you're talking about i think you've hoodwinked me into this episode and

00:31:58.500 now i don't know who you're talking about and that's a hell of a backstory i missed she has

00:32:02.800 the how did you get all that backstory did she have a full episode well she we're gonna have

00:32:09.320 to come back around here's my question okay so if i'm led again jedis are led by compassion

00:32:18.300 that is not to say that love and love is compassion the point is not being led by

00:32:26.820 emotion the point is being led by equitable emotion that emotion isn't there to benefit you

00:32:33.120 or benefit people immediately around you therein lies the negative and if we then take that and

00:32:39.360 but isn't that what manifesting is though but if we apply it to the world around us

00:32:44.580 sure well that's because you're not a jedi so then am i saying for you to be a jedi no because i think

00:32:51.540 most people in this in like most people in the star wars universe aren't jedis or siths they

00:32:58.300 don't know about the force they haven't mastered it they don't know no i'm just using your i'm

00:33:05.320 using literally your example about how you said that i like manifesting and crystals and well i

00:33:10.700 think because it's basing it on an energy it's based on emotion because now i'm not going to

00:33:15.940 go into like the whole it's not meditating and manifesting thing but they say that your thoughts

00:33:22.320 are strong but your emotions are stronger so if you think about something and you feel what you

00:33:27.280 would feel while you're thinking about that thing it's a lot more powerful which is why i keep saying

00:33:32.900 just because you're driven by your emotions doesn't mean that you're evil in this situation

00:33:37.920 it puts you on the dark side but it doesn't make you evil but it does make you evil would be is if

00:33:45.720 If I used what I know about manifesting and crystals and thoughts and whatnot to do something

00:33:52.760 evil.

00:33:53.980 No, I think to a Jedi.

00:33:55.500 Okay.

00:33:55.680 So we're taking it to the extreme.

00:33:56.980 That's a good point.

00:33:57.580 But we're taking it to the extreme.

00:33:59.080 But I think what a Jedi would say, let's say you want to be a pop star and you're on the

00:34:05.900 road to that.

00:34:06.380 So you're trying to manifest that.

00:34:07.780 A Jedi would say, okay, but is that doing the world the best good?

00:34:15.720 Is that doing the world the best good?

00:34:17.600 And if it's not doing the world the best good, that's cool.

00:34:20.440 You can keep doing that.

00:34:21.900 You can keep manifesting.

00:34:23.040 You can keep channeling and doing all of that.

00:34:25.740 But what you've done is you've made it personal.

00:34:29.400 It doesn't make you evil.

00:34:30.320 It doesn't make you good.

00:34:31.160 It just makes you more self-interested, right?

00:34:34.840 Whereas a Jedi would say, all of my energy, all of my compassion has to be equitably distributed.

00:34:41.560 it has to be what is always for the greatest good not what's for my good okay there's the difference

00:34:47.960 there's the okay but with the example that you just gave i can turn that over as well

00:34:54.280 because okay being a pop pop star sure a pop tart pop tart i'd be a strawberry pop tart

00:35:02.380 but here's the thing this one over here the rocky road why why are you then saying as a jedi

00:35:09.840 that my message that I will then put into the songs

00:35:13.520 or the energy that I put out, let's say, during a concert

00:35:17.120 to make those people that are at the concert happy

00:35:21.180 or people that are, in general, listening to one of my songs

00:35:25.680 that could be very positive, very uplifting, make someone's day.

00:35:30.380 Why is now that any less?

00:35:32.620 It depends what your motive is.

00:35:33.860 And then Jedi is always about intent.

00:35:36.400 And I think that's pretty powerful.

00:35:37.700 If your intent is to do all of those things and to garner no fame and to garner no money,

00:35:43.920 that's not your intent.

00:35:45.220 Your intent is to use your gifts to make this world a better place.

00:35:50.300 They would say your intent is pure.

00:35:52.140 Therefore, your objective is pure.

00:35:54.220 Go out and do it.

00:35:55.160 But I am using my emotions to do it.

00:35:58.820 They never said you can't use your emotions.

00:36:00.740 You need to use balanced emotions.

00:36:02.180 So if you, if the emotions you're only ever using and you need to abuse the types of emotions that aren't negatively driven.

00:36:10.700 So what other emotion besides love and compassion are there that aren't negative?

00:36:17.060 On one side, we got love, compassion, empathy.

00:36:21.240 It's all the same thing.

00:36:22.660 The other side is what?

00:36:24.560 Fear and resentment and attachment.

00:36:27.720 What's another emotion?

00:36:29.140 I mean, those are the two main driving emotions.

00:36:33.000 But, but, okay.

00:36:34.960 Guilt, where does that lie? 0.75

00:36:36.780 Guilt has no place in a Jedi, right?

00:36:38.840 Guilt makes no sense.

00:36:41.820 Shame makes no sense.

00:36:43.380 Those are negative emotions and all those negative emotions are going to cause and perpetuate

00:36:47.540 negative impacts or negative actions.

00:36:50.460 You live in the positive and you live in a balanced state.

00:36:55.800 Look, we can even look at this when it comes to issues of gender.

00:36:58.540 when you when you separate categorizations of femininity and masculinity a strong person a

00:37:04.760 better a more holistic person can draw upon the great attributes and the great characteristics

00:37:11.480 of both that's what you try to do not the negative you're just that of both yep but of

00:37:18.780 masculinity and femininity what i'm saying is what you're trying to do is garner all of the positives

00:37:23.960 none of the negatives and fear I honestly believe and the reason why this these movies are so

00:37:32.420 powerful and everybody thinks it's the lightsabers but the reason why these movies are so powerful

00:37:37.200 well it's true the fight scenes um is because it speaks on how destructive and debilitating

00:37:45.860 and and um like self-sabotaging that fear is and fear is the primary negative emotion

00:37:57.960 because fear leads to everything fear leads to everything if you're afraid of losing something

00:38:05.040 if you're afraid of not being important if you're afraid of dying if you're afraid of of risking

00:38:11.720 things, if you're afraid of looking stupid, if you're afraid, all of that fear does is

00:38:16.980 limit, restrict, and then, and then make you bet on things that are either going to try

00:38:25.040 to minimize that fear for you, which that can't be done, or try to, you know, overcome

00:38:34.500 that fear by, by controlling, by excluding. So, so if I'm competitive, let's say, and I have a fear

00:38:45.560 that I'm going to lose the race, sorry, Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya Harding just popped into my

00:38:50.480 head. I can't help that kind of act. If I have a feeling, if I have that fear and that's the fear

00:38:55.420 that's driving me and I can't wrap my head around that I am good enough or, or even better. Now,

00:39:02.360 if you have someone telling you even better that you're not good enough no wait I'm you're not

00:39:06.460 going to go train with that coach but wait even better I might lose I might lose the race I might

00:39:12.940 lose the whatever and if I do maybe my greatness my perfection shouldn't take priority over what

00:39:23.900 it just what is and so I don't take a tire iron tire iron to my competitive's you know quadricep

00:39:30.740 i skate but you find a coach who's also helping you out listen there is no way that you can

00:39:38.160 possibly say that obi-wan didn't help him out that obi-wan obi-wan loved him so much he didn't even

00:39:45.220 kill him when his legs were coming off his arms um i'm not necessarily saying that obi-wan on his

00:39:54.100 own was just him to blame i like i said i keep saying the council a lot i definitely say that it 0.96

00:40:01.940 was that those groups of people that sat in that semicircle um and because obi-wan is led by those

00:40:11.400 people as much as he wanted to do good by anakin there was still this other side that was stopping

00:40:18.780 him from giving anakin his 100 but so do i think that the council i think he gave anakin is 100

00:40:25.000 failed anakin and was the reason for that i think when anakin said i should be on the council

00:40:30.340 even obi-wan went excuse me little boy like remember how young he would have been how young

00:40:37.140 are we what was he he was like when he was found and i'm not necessarily saying that like yeah

00:40:43.400 He should have been 16 for crying out loud.

00:40:45.260 I get that.

00:40:46.000 But again, I'm not necessarily saying like, yeah, put him on the council.

00:40:49.960 But also don't be like, no, absolutely not.

00:40:52.340 You're not ready.

00:40:53.200 You're not blah, blah, blah.

00:40:53.940 No, be like, sweetheart, maybe not right now.

00:40:56.100 But let's work on this, this, and this.

00:40:59.100 And let's keep working on this.

00:41:00.360 And then we'll touch base in a little bit.

00:41:02.100 And then like that, it gives him things to work towards.

00:41:05.060 Because right now, all he's being told is no.

00:41:08.000 But I think he had things to work towards.

00:41:10.120 i think he kept fighting for the things he thought were more important anyway going back to save his

00:41:15.380 mom going to save obi-wan go like and all of those things seem good i mean all of those things

00:41:22.660 no because you're supposed to you're supposed to do what's right for the universe you're supposed

00:41:30.460 to do what's right for everybody not what's right for you but i don't think that so what is necessarily

00:41:35.220 trained what if i'm going to save his mom 400 people died what about what about by him and

00:41:44.200 padme then you know being a part of that what if what if that and not doing what he was told

00:41:50.840 and not doing what was in that plan what if what was right according to the jedi okay but did

00:41:58.500 anything 400 did anything happen yep that's the point of course something happened something

00:42:04.300 always happens but something always happens well he becomes dark vader that's what happened what

00:42:10.120 if he had gone to his mother let's say a day earlier and saved her and then came back

00:42:16.520 but you can't that's not the point the point is is that if you lead but you just what's only good

00:42:24.280 for you you put you know at the end of the day what's the point i'll tell you what the point was

00:42:29.060 and i totally forgot this part of the movie but thank you for jarring it that's the point of the

00:42:33.920 movie where obi-wan's finding about the clone army and he can't get a hold of anakin to get a hold

00:42:42.420 of the of the um council in order to say what was happening what if they would have found that all

00:42:48.560 out right then quicker and stop the clone army now what now it's not just 400 people we're talking

00:42:56.480 about hundreds of thousands of people that are going to be killed by the empire empire because

00:43:01.160 that clone army was allowed to be brought to fruition i don't know what you're talking about

00:43:08.000 when when anakin doesn't stay put yeah the way he's supposed to stay put

00:43:13.180 obi-wan can't he goes and finds a planet with all the little clones but obi-wan can't connect

00:43:18.660 with him anymore okay now he needs to come home and go find him because he's run off somewhere

00:43:22.820 i got that all of that took time my previous statement which was what if we had saved his mom

00:43:28.460 earlier no no but that's not the point but you're missing no it's not that's the point that's the

00:43:33.520 original point that i was trying to make when it comes to making an exception in order to bring

00:43:40.240 into your program someone that you think is the chosen one you have to then continue making

00:43:46.120 exceptions like maybe saving his mother but he doesn't ever make it known to anybody

00:43:51.480 he doesn't even why he doesn't even because he's not allowed well because he's not allowed he's

00:43:59.220 not but but again exceptions need to be made he was true to his emotion he'd put it on the table

00:44:06.060 the reason why he doesn't put it on the table is because he's told not to no because he knows

00:44:09.900 that running your emotion that making decisions to be selfish and self-gaining

00:44:16.120 aren't the jedi way you can be a hero all on your own you can be han solo you can be padme you can

00:44:23.640 save your own people and that can be your own limited place on this earth and it is powerful

00:44:30.080 and it is amazing but if you truly want to be bigger than that you don't just look what's good

00:44:36.380 for you and your immediate family and what makes you feel good you have to have to take what's into

00:44:41.780 an account and anakin couldn't do that because he never could put those things down that's why he's

00:44:47.420 not a jedi why couldn't he put those things down because because they trained him the same way

00:44:52.560 that they trained they did it we've already had the little younglings no they didn't because he

00:44:56.320 was already too old to be trained like the younglings well at whatever younglings younglings

00:45:01.220 anyways all i'm saying is that they made the exception for him to come in at some point you

00:45:06.900 can't train him the same way that you would train somebody else because at that age, those kids

00:45:13.340 already do not have that attachment. So what are you going to do? You know that he's feeling all

00:45:18.660 these feelings. That was a weird noise. Ripley's into something. She's decided to break into a

00:45:25.440 closet. She doesn't like it when doors are closed. Anyways, exceptions should have been made. And

00:45:30.840 I'm saying exceptions were made. Please come below. All the exceptions that were made. Somebody's

00:45:35.340 going to be like hey listen there was an episode that never aired that was made into a book that

00:45:41.080 was only sold in three stores and it tells the whole story of the exceptions made um also why

00:45:47.120 don't you love luke did i press record the fact that we have to get up right now to see if she

00:45:54.440 pressed record is so horrible you said that you press record i'm not going to cut this out but

00:46:00.880 you're gonna i'm gonna hold on to this and you're gonna go take that walk and guys if she didn't

00:46:06.100 press record i'm gonna be so i thought she pressed record okay why don't you like luke

00:46:12.640 excuse me well guys i'm we're gonna be quite on okay so her favorite episode is

00:46:20.260 two oh good god two episode like the actual two the actual two uh and and we watched one two three

00:46:27.100 right and heaven help me one and two painful uh and i'm finally getting to four and i get to four

00:46:33.260 and i'm so excited what do you say about four what did i say about four what do you say about a new

00:46:38.280 hope that's boring why why is luke why are you dislike luke i don't know why you why are you not

00:46:46.080 drawn to him in the same way be honest it's because anakin's cuter oh yeah hands down

00:46:54.340 see see what happens when you're when you're led by one emotion your favorite episode ends up being

00:47:04.040 two if i drop this mic it's so expensive i drop it right now um i don't i don't think i ever said

00:47:11.740 that i dislike luke i think that his journey was very fast forwarded and i think that with

00:47:19.620 everything that we learned with anakin going through his thing and then eventually becoming

00:47:26.900 darth vader it just it it didn't seem you don't think his character development was big enough

00:47:33.940 well because that's you jumped in at the beginning right you well you you watch the episodes in their

00:47:41.680 chronic like in their episode one two three four five six order so you never gained an attachment

00:47:46.680 to loop i no that's a lie i watched four or five six with my brother it was it was our thing and

00:47:53.600 then ever since then every time a new movie came out then we would go to the theater and watch the

00:47:58.040 what is going on so you think that you look crazy right now for those who are just listening to us

00:48:03.840 um she's randomly picking at something in the air that doesn't exist there's like a hair hanging

00:48:08.340 down it's bugging me it's the force um so no i i did see four by six first and then you just don't

00:48:14.520 think there's enough character development to it's not that there isn't it's just not believable

00:48:18.280 because you because you watch what happens you watch you clearly see anakin go through whatever

00:48:25.680 and he started when he was way younger than luke but what's the difference luke has way more

00:48:31.540 attachments way more whatever he doesn't have any attachments well okay then anger i guess he

00:48:38.060 doesn't have anger they killed his family well but that he still doesn't have i think the big

00:48:43.800 difference i think the big difference between anakin and luke well there's no way you can say

00:48:48.100 luke is is angry you can see he might be a little whiny i mean i have noticed a consistent line of

00:48:53.560 whininess among the the people who raised you and took care of you all of a sudden get blown up and

00:49:01.160 you're like i'm just gonna go on my merry way i just don't i don't feel like he was he never felt

00:49:07.400 that that's where he belonged i don't think first of all for sometimes he's gonna the cat will come

00:49:16.640 lie on anna because she knows oh your your blood pressure is very high let me sniff you um i think

00:49:23.260 that the difference being is this um number one anakin's life as a young person was horrible

00:49:31.040 horrible he was a slave his mom was used for heaven no he knows what i mean at some point

00:49:37.840 she ends up getting taken by those creatures but she's also a slave they were born into slavery

00:49:42.340 they were abused they were used all of that kind of thing luke had a had a fine upbringing one that

00:49:49.100 he never felt attached to but he was loved and he was taken care of and i think those underpinnings

00:49:55.060 Those foundational underpinnings are by far, and if we just talked about psychology in

00:50:01.020 general, those are by far the most significant underpinnings to having a balanced sort of

00:50:07.040 energy.

00:50:08.120 It's not to say you can't heal.

00:50:09.760 It's not to say that you can't get broken depending on what your life gets thrown at

00:50:13.440 you.

00:50:13.920 But what I'm saying is Luke had a balance of that.

00:50:17.880 Did he want his family to die?

00:50:19.180 Of course not.

00:50:20.060 But it was in no way, shape or form the same as knowing that your mother who had risked

00:50:25.040 everything who had let you go, who you had all but forgotten about, come back to watch her being 0.98

00:50:31.640 heaven only knows as a PG show by all of those sand people for however long and then killed. 1.00

00:50:38.360 It's just not the same. It's not in the same hemisphere. So Luke didn't have that trajectory. 1.00

00:50:43.060 That's why Luke, when he's fighting Vader, or when he's with the emperor, he puts his,

00:50:47.980 he can put it down. Anakin would have killed if Anakin wasn't Darth Vader. Spoiler alert,

00:50:54.860 for the love of god if you don't know that spoiler right now out from under the rock you come um

00:51:01.440 he would have killed darth vader

00:51:02.780 anakin would have killed darth vader do you understand what i mean if anakin wasn't darth

00:51:10.560 vader okay anakin was anakin but then fighting he would have killed darth vader in that circumstance

00:51:16.660 is that his dad no no just it could be anybody it doesn't matter yeah it could have been his dad

00:51:21.460 sure anakin could have found out that was his dad but anakin was too angry was too led by all

00:51:28.300 those things too easily pushed whereas luke shut off his lightsaber i don't know how many times

00:51:34.080 and said i'm not doing it i that's i don't think anakin would do anyways that's the part that i

00:51:39.140 don't think is very believable that's why he shut off his lightsaber but that's the point because

00:51:43.740 he has more of a balance that he can sense what is true and what is not anakin could never sense

00:51:50.040 it he could never sense it because it was always clouded by everything else and why don't you like

00:51:54.980 ray ray is ray is the balance ray has the chosen one i've only seen the last three also why do you

00:52:06.960 always start something like why don't you like this person instead of asking me do you like this

00:52:10.840 person you don't i've heard i've been living with you for two years i i don't have um the same amount

00:52:16.920 of knowledge on the last three as I do on the first three so it's not that I don't like Rey

00:52:22.860 I just don't think I have anything to say but but you you know what the movies I mean it's the way

00:52:29.480 the movies progress right you know Rey is even connected to Kylo even the way she's connected

00:52:35.920 to Kylo she consistently has balance and you don't need training for that she never got a day of

00:52:41.940 training that's kind of interesting right because anakin gets all this training luke gets some kind

00:52:47.780 of training what what is what does ray get nothing nothing she's driving the millennium falcon like

00:52:54.160 it's it like it's a hot wheel yeah but that doesn't make her a jedi that just makes her feel the force

00:53:01.520 be connected to the force that is a jedi but then but what the jedi she's 100 a jedi can we just

00:53:07.920 being connected to the force makes you a jedi except if you're led by your emotions right which

00:53:14.560 in this case she's not she's not she has no connection not led by her emotions she's not

00:53:19.960 scared that little girl that was left in the thing but she's not do you feel that she's led

00:53:25.980 by her this is an honest question because i don't feel that she's led by her emotions she is led by

00:53:30.520 the um maybe curiosity is not an emotion but it's intense to want to know where you're from

00:53:36.440 a hundred percent that that is that's an emotion i don't know what it is but not knowing your

00:53:44.180 identity is important but i think at every step she overcomes fear she doesn't ever let fear be

00:53:51.700 the guiding principle she doesn't ever let negative emotions drive her and at every step

00:53:57.320 she makes decisions for what is best and and even when it comes to kylo even when she finds out

00:54:04.560 who kylo is what luke did how luke did that to her to to you know whatever again you're gonna

00:54:12.120 have to be specific because i don't remember i find this really upset we sat down for this

00:54:16.840 podcast you're like i don't remember it you won't we should have re-watched well before we sat down

00:54:21.580 for this maybe another one i told you i pretty much only had three points that i wanted to talk

00:54:25.380 about you know we did say that so but you can't finish it's the finish of the story it's the end

00:54:32.580 of the story go ahead baby finish the story i think it's a progression i think it's a progression

00:54:37.320 and also also this cat is so interested in why you're so sorry for those who are just listening

00:54:45.700 to the podcast ripley is interested in anna right now i think that ray

00:54:51.640 is related to no not related to but anakin and ray were made the same way by different

00:55:01.800 uh sith wards right that's all yeah i think the end i think that's true i think that's the

00:55:10.760 implication here's what i kind of wish though here's the one thing that i wish didn't happen

00:55:16.920 in this movie yeah i i i wish that ray it had just been there was no connection to bloodline

00:55:28.020 because what the movie does and this is the only thing i think it does poorly

00:55:33.920 is that every awesome jedi like ray and anakin have to be related came out of no they're not

00:55:42.540 related well technically no they're not it's the emperor no palpatine palpatine was ray and

00:55:48.900 the other one i found out about the other day but here's what i don't here's what i don't

00:55:52.660 come from the dark side they're all genetic well so is luke technically because his bloodline is

00:55:57.900 from anakin yeah right but um my my problem with that is that i don't think the force

00:56:07.120 should be a bloodline thing i really loved the idea you would have wanted anakin to have a dad

00:56:14.260 no i don't care where he came from no no ray i would have loved ray to have come from two random

00:56:24.060 people that had no connection to the emperor that had no connection to the Sith that had no

00:56:30.300 connection to Skywalkers that had no connection to any of the multitudes of Jedis across I wanted

00:56:36.980 them just I wanted Rey just to be another person that was born into this world with something

00:56:43.500 great and I and the connection through bloodline to me that is the only problematic thing I find

00:56:51.740 in Star Wars it's the thing in my opinion that undervalues that anybody can have that connection

00:56:59.620 that anybody can be that connected right that it's just a matter that you're that you're born

00:57:04.940 with natural gifts that you can so I that's the part I don't like because it seems very royalty

00:57:09.380 right it seems very like well if you're the king and you have a son and then they have I just don't

00:57:16.020 like that fair okay so we're gonna end this i thought you were gonna give me a high five we're

00:57:25.680 gonna end this we're gonna end this by some some questions okay star wars related questions oh my

00:57:34.740 lord that people so your favorite jar jar we're gonna put that right on there jar jar c-3po is

00:57:42.800 your second your favorite jedi is obviously jedi jedi well why would you say obviously what were

00:57:52.080 you about to say well your favorite jedi is anakin okay he still was a jedi even though

00:57:58.480 and he died a jedi okay got it okay um what's your favorite quote

00:58:03.680 um and why i don't like the sand it gets everywhere something along those lines

00:58:11.160 why is that your favorite quote because it makes sense because he's from tatooine

00:58:17.600 you're so literal is there not

00:58:21.160 it's my favorite quote because when i've been to the beach it gets everywhere you there's no like

00:58:30.060 tell him he's metaphor tell him he's wrong in that moment you can't there's no you don't have

00:58:34.840 a metaphor for that metaphor nobody needs you asked me for a quote yeah but i gave you the

00:58:39.840 quote but the point can I give you my interpretation of that quote sure I don't think it needs

00:58:45.760 interpretation I think it's straight to the point that nothing about the I don't like sand it gets

00:58:51.180 everywhere it is talking about what his birthplace did to him and did to his character and how he's

00:58:58.400 trying to avoid it and run from it rather than owning up to it but it's it but it gets everywhere

00:59:04.240 and once that sand is everywhere you can't get it off i think that's his his origin story is in that

00:59:11.260 quote it's not just that sand gets everywhere i think that the example of what just happened

00:59:18.900 is why i live such a relaxed and chill and like carefree life compared to me you but don't you

00:59:31.760 get doesn't that make sense sure it makes sense but like i i wouldn't think of it that way i would

00:59:38.540 just be very literal about it yeah sand gets everywhere period end of story oh yeah you don't

00:59:46.180 need to who's your favorite female character by the way you've only picked boys is george a boy

00:59:51.720 uh we never really determined but nonetheless um kid leia okay from the movies love her from the

01:00:00.720 movies we're in great job we're in the nine episodes fantastic actor i cannot say any more

01:00:07.400 amazing things about in the in the movies

01:00:10.480 what was the question

01:00:17.760 who's your favorite female character in this in star wars the movies the nine movies okay okay i do

01:00:27.340 love little leah leah yeah leah leah i love whatever she's fantastic um in the movies in the

01:00:36.600 movies um probably leah but not leah in the originals but leah in like the last 789 yeah

01:00:50.500 she was good you're right she was really good in 789 i do like that uh what are your vibes on kylo

01:00:57.240 I like him.

01:01:02.100 The fact that you love all the bad characters, I find fascinating.

01:01:06.360 Because I don't necessarily think that they are inherently bad.

01:01:11.400 I think that they were, sure, manipulated in a way,

01:01:16.040 but I just think that they are led by their emotions

01:01:18.840 and there's nothing wrong with using your emotions to...

01:01:22.740 But when you see them being led by their emotions,

01:01:25.060 they do all these horrible things.

01:01:26.360 but they do these horrible things because on the one hand they're told not to use the their

01:01:31.900 emotions and then on the other hand when they're told to use their emotions then they feel good

01:01:36.440 about themselves and then the person who made them feel good about themselves then is like

01:01:41.360 manipulating and twisting and so on and so on just let people be kylo wasn't manipulated like

01:01:48.040 that though right kylo wasn't manipulated by that um but but again you're assuming that jedi have

01:01:54.220 no emotions they're just not controlled by them compassion is their main emotion love is their

01:02:01.000 main emotion all right we can't it's just not selfish we've done we've done the podcast but

01:02:04.660 we can't go back but it's just not selfish one character you'd kick out of the star wars

01:02:09.340 universe altogether get out don't ever come back there's the door oh

01:02:13.200 that's just like annoying by the way her second favorite character is that guy you know the fish

01:02:24.200 guy it's a trap that's not true it's a trap um who would i kick out um i don't know i don't know

01:02:31.960 why who would you kick out um

01:02:35.700 i'd probably kick out kick out snoke i never understood snoke i never understood

01:02:46.600 how easily he was killed i never understood his purpose i just felt like it was just such a bad

01:02:51.540 because we get back to the emperor at the end of that you know what i mean i just think it was such

01:02:55.820 a bad intermediary i never really understood why he was even there like ray kills him like you know

01:03:02.400 kylo or like obi-wan killed a droid in episode two like it doesn't make any sense how easy that

01:03:07.960 happened i'm just like that was a bad i think that was a bad situation i think you're right

01:03:13.640 because the the other guy when she says that guys that only happens that only happens once

01:03:19.420 every six months the the four times the one that and was it anakin that he killed all of a sudden 0.99

01:03:25.280 he had like 27 lightsabers that one oh yeah grievous grievous yeah he was stupid too i didn't 0.99

01:03:32.560 get him either why is he coughing so much isn't he a robot that's my point i don't know what was 0.93

01:03:38.020 going on with that um one of my favorite characters you're not even like it's you're not even asking

01:03:45.640 i'm the guest this is unlearn 16 classes in session this isn't i love the jowas bite the

01:03:50.180 rainbow i i would love a halloween costume at some point in my adult life to be about 50

01:03:56.340 jawas yeah i want to be a bunch of jawas no you want to be that pig guy with the axes oh i love 0.57

01:04:03.460 him but that's so expensive but like we could do we could get a bunch of people in black cloaks 0.96

01:04:09.840 with a yeah i'm sorry brown cloaks with the face mask on little beady eyes like we that's that's

01:04:15.340 a doable comp costume i'm just saying um my favorite's ray by the way just so everybody

01:04:22.560 knows and it's not because she's a girl although that's lovely because it definitely was a boy

01:04:27.320 centered movie um i love and i and i would have loved her even more had her origin story been

01:04:36.760 who cares two people that loved her that died fighting on a planet that you know whatever that

01:04:45.420 then that was it i would i would have liked that better because i think that would have been more

01:04:49.440 powerful um a spin-off if you could see one spin-off what would it be of one character

01:04:56.640 one character right now gets his own show it's all about them charger stop it right now

01:05:04.040 I don't know.

01:05:06.020 I'm kind of excited to see the Akosha, Ahsoka, Ahsoka,

01:05:10.640 the one that we can't figure out,

01:05:12.040 but I'm excited to see hers because I think that

01:05:13.920 that's the point I'm trying to make.

01:05:16.320 I think.

01:05:16.860 I could be very wrong.

01:05:17.960 I think we're going to have to go look.

01:05:19.100 Akoka?

01:05:19.740 Ahsoka?

01:05:20.300 Ahsoka?

01:05:21.360 Ahsoka Toa.

01:05:23.400 Ahsoka?

01:05:24.060 I don't know.

01:05:25.900 One last question.

01:05:29.160 This is a hard one, guys,

01:05:30.260 and I want you guys to think about this.

01:05:31.580 Then we're going to call it a day.

01:05:34.040 cgi versus puppets in the star wars universe i don't mind the cgi

01:05:40.860 i don't mind it i know that one scene that you pointed out that one

01:05:46.840 yeah she's talking about jabba the hut when when han solo steps on his tail

01:05:51.900 and they're out and jabba the hut was amazing 14 people were needed were

01:05:57.640 required to function him as a puppet when you see the all the band playing

01:06:02.300 and they're all costumes and puppets.

01:06:05.020 It is so much more authentic and interesting.

01:06:08.740 When you see, God, like hundreds of stormtroopers

01:06:12.580 that are all in costume rather than CGI,

01:06:15.200 it is awesome.

01:06:16.960 That's what makes those movies awesome.

01:06:19.580 CGI is cheap.

01:06:22.900 It's just a way of getting around,

01:06:24.960 actually doing cool stuff that's expensive.

01:06:28.440 That's the end.

01:06:29.700 That's the end, okay.

01:06:30.800 all right guys thank you in a pack for coming let me know if i was right world

01:06:36.420 oh for the love of god go ahead put the comments there's gonna be a lot of people in this comment

01:06:40.980 session that are gonna be like anna pack open my eyes today talk more about movies and hear

01:06:47.800 more of an opinion that you will never ever understand harry potter next we can do harry

01:06:54.320 potter next i i've seen all the harry potters now we start with the gay dumbledore well that's

01:07:00.480 the fantastic beast series but i'd like to start with the gay dumbledore all right maybe we'll do

01:07:04.340 harry potter put comments below if you want to if you want to see us review big sort of epic movies 0.66

01:07:12.860 where they're to have these really really strong underpinnings because i guarantee she's going to

01:07:17.180 disagree with every single thing i say thank you guys for hanging out with us and i will see you

01:07:23.480 next tuesday same bad time peace out homies same bad station i'm waiting for you every time to do

01:07:29.060 May the force be with you. 0.55

01:07:30.780 And with you, dismissed.

Unlearn16: Class is in Session - July 12, 2022

The One Where Ana Lures Me To The Dark Side

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